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diddledanmernign07:41
JamesTaitGood morning all!  Happy Tuesday and happy Crush a Can Day! 😃08:16
diploMorning all08:18
davmor2JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AB-ieB0sTg&list=PL-qQNIOiDEPHnQ8WFUJ77kreb6Ho9sKqu got you covered08:21
JamesTaitA bit of a stretch, davmor2. 😉08:25
davmor2JamesTait: yeah but I don't hear you complaining08:25
davmor2JamesTait: it was that or this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIhSnaqou0I08:27
JamesTaitOh yeah, I remember that one.08:29
davmor2JamesTait: yes I just knew you would prefer the rock and roll lifestyle more ;)08:31
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:44
davmor2brobostigon: Morning dude08:45
brobostigonmorning davmor208:46
brobostigonanyone recognise the following error when trying to run steam.?12:31
brobostigonERROR: ld.so: object '/home/ptaylor/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.12:31
diploNot steam but I recognise it trying to run 32bit in 64bit enviroment in some c++ programs we have here, no help though I'm afraid12:36
brobostigonyes, that was my conclusion as well. but i dont know how to solve it.12:37
foobarryis there an ubuntu12_64 dir?12:40
brobostigonyes.12:43
foobarrypossibly an incorrect env setting somewhere?12:47
foobarrythere's a dirty hack you could try and move the 32bit one out of the way and copy the 64 bit one over...but should really get to the source of why it's trying the 32 bit lib12:48
brobostigoni dont know, good question.12:51
foobarryactually it's only a warning12:58
foobarrynot an error12:59
brobostigonah ok, well it does explain why the client runs, but games always fail to start showing that warning.13:00
foobarryhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/639308/some-steam-games-wont-startup-gameoverlayrenderer-so-error13:02
foobarry?13:02
TwistedLucidityStream is 32bit IIRC13:11
TwistedLucidity*Steam13:11
brobostigonok, that didnt help, same warning persists, and nothing starts.13:13
foobarryi saw a bug but it seems old13:24
foobarrydid something change?13:25
foobarrysearch for newly changed files in steam folders?13:25
diploTalking of my said C++ program... got an odd one, any pointers as I appear very slow today13:34
TwistedLucidityGot Steam on a 64bit here; gimme a mo'13:34
diploping smtp.office365.com and it replies, use our email prog ( CLI ) to send an email via it, we get a temp dns error, hard code an ip to smtp.office365.com it works, any ideas ?13:35
TwistedLuciditybrobostigon: Do you also have "ubuntu12_64"?13:35
TwistedLucidityAh, you do.13:37
brobostigonTwistedLucidity: yep.13:40
TwistedLucidityJust took a look at /usr/bin/steam and I wonder if that's dropping a clanger? You could quickly hack that to echo out what it is trying to run (I can do the same if you want)13:41
brobostigondropping a clanger?13:42
TwistedLuciditybrobostigon: Breaking13:46
brobostigonah.13:46
TwistedLucidityWhat is the result of uname -m? steam.sh uses that to determine bitness13:53
brobostigonx86_6413:54
TwistedLuciditySnap. Hrm...this is some other platform detection stuff13:54
TwistedLucidityIt's as if it's failing to recognise and just defaulting to ubuntu12_3213:55
TwistedLucidityHave you tried running steam from the CLI?13:56
brobostigonyes, thats how i am reading these problems from.13:57
brobostigonis there a way to force it to use 64bit?13:58
TwistedLucidityI get 32bit libtinfo.so warning, but it appears to be non-fatal13:58
TwistedLucidityYou could try copying "/home/<USERNAME>/.local/share/Steam/steam.sh" to "/home/<USERNAME>/.local/share/Steam/steam64.sh" and hacking on it I guess.14:00
TwistedLuciditySeems somewhat brittle to me.14:00
TwistedLucidityLooks like this bug: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/309314:02
TwistedLucidityAnd it seems my steam package is out of date to boot. :-S14:03
TwistedLucidityThere's also some comments about the offical .deb being buggy14:07
brobostigonlets read that bug.14:08
brobostigonoh dear.14:08
TwistedLucidityDid you use the deb from repo.steampowered.com? i.e. the offical one?14:09
TwistedLucidityIf so, this might be worth a punt: https://www.johanvanhelden.com/guide-fix-the-steam-update-notice-on-ubuntu-16-04/14:10
brobostigonyes,14:11
TwistedLuciditySo did I. Wonder what accidental thing I've done to fix it? I don't have many PPAs, just KDE Backports and an aged nvidia driver.14:13
foobarrycame home from work yesterday just as kids finished watching lego movie as a treat. if anyone's seen it, you'll realise why my kids were totally pumped up bouncing off the walls14:20
foobarryEVERYTHING IS AWESOME DO_DO_DO14:20
foobarrytotally hypes them up14:21
diddledanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6lHm-stXdM14:23
TwistedLucidityWHEN YOU'RE PART OF A TEAM!14:29
popeyTEAM14:30
popeyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nPVAh78n3414:30
foobarryi just started LOLLING loud when moss got his ear spray out14:33
foobarryinthe office14:34
foobarrywe had some "one team" mantra stuff going round here recently14:34
TwistedLucidity"Engineering team wish to state that they think management team are a bunch of muppets."14:36
diddledanlol14:38
TwistedLucidity"There's no 'you' in team"14:39
davmor2TwistedLucidity: there is in "Comm-u-nity"14:40
TwistedLuciditySounds dreafully socialist. It'll never work.14:40
TwistedLucidity:-P14:40
diddledandamn those leftie nuts! :-p14:41
awilkinsMWARRRRRGGGGGGG  NODE JS DEVELOPERS MUST DIE14:41
diddledan:-o14:42
diddledanthat sounds like you have experience14:42
awilkinsJust got my ongoing "deployment is broken" hell compounded by an install saying "Nuh-uh brah, we don't have version 3.x.x of that component, would you like to try version 4.1.0?"14:42
davmor2TwistedLucidity: U-buntu U-nionist U-nite14:43
awilkinsVersion 4.1.0 was published *an hour ago*14:43
diddledanawilkins, did you rely on a module that relies on leftpad perchance? :-p14:43
awilkinsWhere did version 3.x.x go?????14:43
awilkinsdiddledan, Whut, not that again?14:43
diddledanno idea. I thought the whole leftpad debacle would have meant that npm not delete anything ever14:44
awilkinsNo, this module doesn't depend on leftpad14:44
awilkinsTHe version I've got isn't even 3.x.x?!?14:44
awilkinsIt's 4.0.014:44
diddledanmayhaps your package.json is out of date to what it actually installed?14:45
awilkinsThe melon-frickin package.json file says ^4.0.014:45
diddledanwah14:45
diddledanmy brian hurts14:45
TwistedLucidityIt's twisting your melon, man?14:45
diddledanTwistedLucidity, better that than twisting his lucidity14:45
awilkinsThis is the deployment on the server whining14:45
awilkinsalthough TBH, the list of valid install targets being "4.1.0, that's it brah, no 4.0.0" is somewhat annoying14:46
bittinDebian admin at my workplace switched works yesterday, so i am the new Debian admin now :)14:47
diddledanbittin, yey?14:48
awilkinsOk, our local node cache has 9 versions of the component in question, including the one being asked for14:50
TwistedLucidityNode - the anti-social version of Maven14:53
bittindiddledan: hehe yay more work :P14:55
TwistedLuciditySame pay, same hours, work smarter not harder!14:57
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davmor2SebthreeBQM10HD: hey15:49
SebthreeBQM10HDdavmor2, hi16:00
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Myrttistumbled on this today: https://www.servethehome.com/firefox-is-eating-your-ssd-here-is-how-to-fix-it/19:01
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