[00:03] <valorie> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/Beta2/Kubuntu is started
[00:04] <valorie> someone help!
[00:04]  * valorie is out of blood sugar and it's dinner time
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[00:21]  * tsimonq2 comes to the rescue
[00:22] <clivejo> its super simon
[00:25] <tsimonq2> /var/lib/jenkins/tooling3/lib/merger.rb:36:in `*': negative argument (ArgumentError)
[00:25] <tsimonq2> santa_ broke KCI again :P lol
[00:25] <tsimonq2> clivejo: see? I don't have superpowers on this one :(
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[01:34] <valorie> I'm trying to make a upgrade page, which is linked to from our announcement of the beta
[01:34] <valorie> I absolutely cannot login to the wiki again, or at least -- I'm logged in, but keep getting kicked to the login page before I can copy our old page
[01:35] <tsimonq2> valorie: login to the Ubuntu wiki
[01:36] <valorie> can someone copy https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades/Kubuntu to a WilyUgrades page?
[01:36] <valorie> I've done it about 30 times now
[01:36] <valorie> it was bad earlier, but not so bad as THIS
 You made the page already no?
[01:39] <valorie> even when logged in "you are not allowed to edit this page"
[01:39] <valorie> I made the main page
 Mm
[01:39] <valorie> but not the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YakketyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[01:39] <valorie> which is linked to from that announcement
[01:40] <valorie> and will be from our release announcemnt
[01:40] <valorie> no clue why I could edit an hour ago and cannot now
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[01:44] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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 The wiki has always been trash
 Could we change the link to go to a user base/community kde page?
[01:47] <valorie> we could, and maybe that's what we'll have to do
[01:47] <valorie> :(
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[02:54] <ahoneybun> why sad about it valorie?
[02:54] <ahoneybun> we all know MediaWiki is better anyway
[02:55] <valorie> because I want the proper wiki to work
[02:55] <valorie> and I want to copy the old page, and am unable to do even that
[03:13] <ahoneybun> mm so what page needs to be made?
[03:13] <ahoneybun> the upgrade one from Xenial?
[03:15] <ahoneybun> I got in valorie
[03:15] <valorie> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YakketyUpgrades/Kubuntu is what needs to be made
[03:16] <valorie> I was going to copy in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades/Kubuntu and just edit that
[03:16] <ahoneybun> seems it is made
[03:16] <valorie> ?
[03:16] <ahoneybun> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WilyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[03:16] <ahoneybun> opps
[03:17] <valorie> :-)
[03:17] <valorie> that one can be copied
[03:17] <valorie> that's how I usually do it, anyway
[03:17] <valorie> copy the old page and just fix
[03:18] <ahoneybun> alright it's made
[03:18] <ahoneybun> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YakketyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[03:19] <ahoneybun> I did a few things 
[03:19] <ahoneybun> saved and free if you want to jump in somehow
[03:19] <ahoneybun> are we using Discover for updates now
[03:19] <ahoneybun> ?
[03:20] <ahoneybun> valorie: ^
[03:21] <valorie> is it working from the beta?
[03:21] <valorie> I didn't test that
[03:22] <valorie> gah, I can read the page, but still can't login
[03:23] <valorie> screenies aren't made yet, correct?
[03:23] <ahoneybun> want to make a pastebin and I'll put the changes in?
[03:23] <ahoneybun> I don't have any atm
[03:23] <ahoneybun> nothing clean ie base wallpaper
[03:24] <ahoneybun> I just wish my breeze settings would work
[03:24] <valorie> sorry, my brain is being slow to come back
 Its fine
[03:30]  * ahoneybun throws Breeze out the window
[03:31] <ahoneybun> so tired of the icons not matching at all
[03:32] <ahoneybun> even weird that Chrome is not anywhere on my system but it is install
[03:33] <ahoneybun> no menu's can find it
[03:33] <ahoneybun> http://imgur.com/56gGtzO
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[07:00] <santa_> acheronuk: I have fixed that bug in do-all about quotes and double quotes
[07:01] <santa_> however note that you still have to use the double quotes if you want to execute 2 commands such as
[07:01] <santa_> do-all "gbp-ppa && uploadsorce -t <ppa_target>"
[07:02] <santa_> that last one can NOT be fixed because ... it's the shell behaviour
[07:02] <santa_> clivejo: ↑
[07:25] <acheronuk> santa_: great. thanks. :)
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[07:52] <sitter> acheronuk: ‎[22:54] ‎<‎acheronuk‎>‎ I assume that KC can vote collectively in place of one -dev?
[07:52] <sitter> KC has no authority
[07:52] <sitter> KD votes based on a mandate by the technical board
[07:53] <sitter> so if one were short of a KD quorum one would need technical board members or ubuntu-core-dev members (as latter are KDs by virtue of being devs with super powers)
[07:53] <acheronuk> sitter: yes. it was a vote on something else I was thinking of I think
[07:53] <sitter> ah
[07:54] <sitter> ‎[22:53] ‎<‎valorie‎>‎ however, if we can't round up enough KDs, the KC will probably have to chime in
[07:54] <sitter> valorie: note above
[07:54] <acheronuk> sitter: ninja team membership I think
[07:54] <sitter> does the KD vote on this
[07:55] <sitter> check the wiki page describing all the teams
[07:55] <sitter> I think there's a voting intent description on there
[07:56] <acheronuk> Requirements: Existing ~kubuntu-members member, survive an interview by ~kubuntu-dev, get accepted by a majority of existing developers and at least 3 existing developers.
[07:56] <sitter> there you have it then
[07:56] <sitter> same rules apply
[07:56] <acheronuk> https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Policies#.7Ekubuntu-dev
[07:56] <sitter> if a KD quorum cannot be reached you'll need TB or core-dev
[07:57] <sitter> it's because this is a technical evaluation and not "just" a trust evaluation (as for example membership)
[07:59] <acheronuk> ty sitter - at least it's clear now what hurdles need to be overcome
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[09:55] <mparillo_> I am logged into the wiki, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/Beta2/Kubuntu still shows as immutable.
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[10:12] <acheronuk> appears editable to me?
[10:25] <soee_> i wonder .. if KDE provides snaps for all their apps http://mhall119.com/2016/09/desktop-app-snap-in-300kb than Kubuntu has to package them anyway or just use those snaps without any extra packaging etc ?
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 They do
 http://distribute.kde.org/snappy-testing/
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[10:53] <clivejo> soee_: I believe sitter is working on that via KDE Neon
 and Scarlett I think
[10:55] <soee_> clivejo: yes but will it help Kubuntu to stop dealing with Apps if snaps will show up?
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[10:58] <acheronuk> soee_: kubuntu would still want to do apps releases. just that kubuntu users may be able to use newer versions for particular apps/features straight away via snaps, rather than wait for normal backport of the whole release
[10:58] <clivejo> soee_: I guess that depends on the end users and how easy (or how hard) it is to install and update snaps
[10:59] <acheronuk> or at least that is the way I read it....
[10:59] <clivejo> just because its there does not mean users will migrate to it
[10:59] <clivejo> very much creatures of habit 
[11:00] <clivejo> but its a choice and choice is good :)
[11:00] <acheronuk> good usage case may be latest PIM etc? for those that want it?
[11:01] <clivejo> yes and KDE software not in apps buddle
[11:01] <clivejo> bundle
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[11:15] <soee_> no news about Beta http://kubuntu.org/news/ ?
[11:16] <tsimonq2> soee_: flavors release announcements after Ubuntu does, Lubuntu's once done it 12 *hours* after!
[11:16] <tsimonq2> basically, wait until someone does it ;)
[11:17] <tsimonq2> (I don't know if that makes much sense)
[11:17] <soee_> i see news about the release
[11:17] <santa_> acheronuk: I made some improvements in new KA tooling based on our last experience using it
[11:17] <soee_> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-16.10-Beta-Final
[11:17] <santa_> acheronuk: 1. now you can do "gbp-ppa -d yakkety,xenial"
[11:18] <santa_> acheronuk: 2. now uploadsource can guess the staging ppa target based on the package you are uploading
[11:19] <santa_> acheronuk: 3. now uploadsource has some safety checks to prevent us from uploading something to PPAs with unpushed changes in git
[11:20] <santa_> to-do: safety checks for dev-package-names-list branches
[11:21] <acheronuk> santa_: all sounds very goo :)
[11:21] <acheronuk> good
[11:22] <santa_> lets hope it is, let me know if you find any issue
[11:28] <acheronuk> ok :)
 clivejo are you around?
[11:28] <clivejo> ish!
[11:29] <mitya57> tsdgeos, thanks a lot (for the shortcuts fix)!
 you don't seem happy to hear me
[11:29] <acheronuk> Mirv: should you have a second to do so, could you prod armhf to retry build of this? thanks https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-workspace/4:5.7.5-0ubuntu1
[11:29]  * clivejo is working on a super secret project
 clivejo, I see that KDevelop in KCI builds successfully
[11:30] <Mirv> acheronuk: done
 any chance of getting that in backports?
[11:30] <clivejo> ovidiuflorin: yes, fixed it the other day
[11:30] <Mirv> clivejo: better conquer the world while at it!
[11:30] <acheronuk> Mirv: TY :)
 clivejo, how can I bribe you for that?
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[11:31] <clivejo> ovidiuflorin: that version is the latest git
 I'm reffering to 5.0.1 not master
[11:31] <clivejo> cant go into backports, only stable, tested software
 if they are the same, then good for it
 ok, then
 where can it go now so I can test the hell out pf it?
 of*
[11:32] <clivejo> Id like it in yakkety, but doubt theres any chance of that :(
 clivejo, can you put it in one of your PPAs?
[11:34] <clivejo> well Phil and I discussed about setting up a project PPA for each them and getting KCI to copy the packages across on sucessful build
[11:34] <clivejo> but I havent seen him around to move forward on that idea
[11:34] <tsimonq2> clivejo, acheronuk, santa_: SO, now that final beta is out, what happened?
[11:34] <tsimonq2> we get things to migrate? :D
 clivejo, can we get it in a private PPA? or make a PPA for the project now?
 I have about 30 minutes to do something
 so I can have a better life with KDevelop
 after that I'm back to work
[11:36] <clivejo> need to speak to Phil on how to do that
[11:36] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: I just asked Mirν to trigger the last blocking failure on building, at least I think?
[11:37] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: them it's autopackagetest migration fun!
[11:37] <acheronuk> then
[11:37] <santa_> tsimonq2: I guess that's a question for #ubuntu-release I'm still not used to ubuntu's "bureaucracy", I'm learning on the fly
 clivejo, then can we use a private PPA for now?
[11:37] <clivejo> I would like to see the project page linking to a PPA - https://launchpad.net/kdevelop4
[11:38] <clivejo> well create a new one for kdevelop5
 it shouldn't be kdevelop4
 why not just kdevelop ?
[11:38] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: See what needs fixing. See what we can bribe the -release team to let through failing tests. etc
 and done
[11:38] <clivejo> but I dont know if KCI can copy to project PPA
[11:39] <clivejo> probably have to be one we own
[11:39] <acheronuk> santa_: my first time round on this as well
 I'm creating a KDevelop project now in LP
[11:41] <clivejo> oh good lord
 LP: kdevelop is already used by another project
 but haunchpad.net/kdevelop results in a 404
[11:42] <clivejo> Harold has added himself on Doodle
 clivejo should I make a Kdevelop5 one?
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[11:44] <clivejo> maybe ask in LP channel why kdevelop wont register
 that's exactly what I was doing :D
[11:44] <acheronuk> Phil is on the poll as well :)
[11:46] <acheronuk> Mon 3rd @ 8pm looks a good option ATM
 I found this: https://launchpad.net/~kdevelop
[11:47] <clivejo> yup
 acheronuk: will do a little later ;)
[11:48] <clivejo> Thats a team
 On the bus
[11:48] <clivejo> but a team can have a PPA I think
 it seems to be owned by the KC
[11:49] <clivejo> I dont understand LP that well
[11:49] <clivejo> anyway, lunch time 
[11:50] <clivejo> ovie have a chat with LP team and see what the best way to do it
[11:50] <clivejo> we need something with a PPA we can upload to
 it's fixed
 they renamed the old inactive project
 I'm creating a project now
 which team should I make as maintainer?
 clivejo?
 Kubuntu NINJAS
 kubuntu-ninjas?
 @ovidiuflorin, Yes
 Done: https://launchpad.net/kdevelop
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 ¡Bueno!
 I'll write something in a few hours during my lunch break unless someone beats me to it
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[12:18] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[12:23] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
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[13:01] <renn0xtk9> I try to do a helloworld with PyKDE, > http://wklej.org/id/2871699 it works but when closing the KApplication it says KCrash: Application 'test.py' crashing...   anyone an idea?
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[14:32] <acheronuk> some updates coming through
[14:42] <clivejo> @ovidiuflorin did you create ppa:kdevelop/daily ?
[14:42] <marco-parillo> acheronuk: The Beta2 page is still an Immutable Page to me, even though it shows I am logged in. Are you a member of some special group? ISTR that there was a spam problem, but I am in Users of the Ubuntu Etherpad instance which I thought was used for authentication after the spam attack.
[14:43] <acheronuk> marco-parillo: this page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/Beta2/Kubuntu
[14:43] <marco-parillo> Exactly
[14:44] <acheronuk> marco-parillo: are you a member of? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wiki-editors
[14:45] <acheronuk> you need to be if not ^^^^
[14:46] <marco-parillo> TY
[14:47] <marco-parillo> "Your request to join Ubuntu Wiki Editors is awaiting approval."
[14:48] <acheronuk> yep. popey is the one to authorise for that
[14:51] <BluesKaj> Over 200 upgrades to Yakkety, but no fix for X drawing the desktop below the panel. 
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 Good stuff
 acheronuk: please make a list of things to fix so I can go through it
[15:26] <marco-parillo> TY acheronuk . I am in. I had to log out, and log in again, ticking the wiki editors box. Social Media graphics are back. 
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[15:55]  * clivejo yawns
[15:55] <genii> Does anyone know if Jussi will restock https://holvi.com/shop/Kubuntu/ at some point? Or is there a different site I should know about now to buy Kubuntu things
[15:56] <genii> ( where at least some of the funds go back to the project )
[15:57] <clivejo> genii: our website seems to be pointing to different supplier
[15:57] <clivejo> https://www.hellotux.com/kubuntu
[15:57] <genii> clivejo: Cool, thanks!
[15:58]  * clivejo thinks Kubuntu Members should get a free one
 +1
[16:00] <clivejo> to wear to events etc
[16:03] <clivejo> I like this one - https://www.hellotux.com/black_kubuntu_pique_polo_shirt
 @clivejo, I prefer the normal black tee myself
[16:05] <clivejo> the "youth" one?
[16:05] <acheronuk> lol. no, adult
[16:05] <clivejo> youth one seems bigger and in the centre
[16:06] <clivejo> wonder can they embroider more details on it 
[16:06] <clivejo> like name and IRC nick :)
[16:07] <acheronuk> hmmm........ "Harald from Germany wrote about HELLOTUX: "Ok, the shipping was very fast." July 2015"
[16:10] <acheronuk> "We embroider every shirt individually, with care and love using our programmable embroidery machine."
[16:10] <acheronuk> so clivejo, I suspect that could be arranged to have personal details?
[16:10] <clivejo> would be a nice touch?
[16:11] <acheronuk> yep
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[16:14] <acheronuk> just khotkeys on armhf to build, and then that is all of FW 5.26 and plasma 5.7.5 built in the archive
[16:14] <mamarley> Yay!
[16:14] <mamarley> Great job in getting all that stuff ready!
[16:14] <acheronuk> not migrated out of proposed, but at least all built
[16:15] <clivejo> ok, well Ive got Scarlett, Scott, Haruld and Philip on Monday, 3rd Oct between 20:00 and 22:00
[16:15]  * acheronuk gulps
[16:16] <clivejo> should I just go ahead and plan for 20:00 then?
[16:17] <clivejo> Simon isnt available until 22:00 
[16:17] <clivejo> so that's a positive :P
[16:17] <acheronuk> it looked the logical choice to me earlier, but not my choice
 Well technically 21
[16:17] <acheronuk> LOL
 Wait a minute
[16:18] <clivejo> 20:00 for sure then :P
 No
 I'll be ready for 20
 That's 3 pm
 I'll be on the bus
[16:18]  * clivejo face palms
 Nice try clivejo ;)
[16:18] <acheronuk> clivejo: 19:00 hrs then>
[16:19] <clivejo> thats too early for Phil
 Remember, my passing time is 5 mins
 PLENTY of time to say hi
 Lol
 You can't win here Clive
 Lol
[16:20]  * acheronuk wonders if a cell phone outage in Wisconsin cane be arranged
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[16:21] <clivejo> tsimonq2: you marked yourself as unavailable, cant change your mind now!
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[16:50] <clivejo> ovidiuflorin: can you test these - https://launchpad.net/~kdevelop/+archive/ubuntu/release/+packages
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[17:26] <tsimonq2> clivejo: well it's your fault for not allowing ifneedbes
[17:26] <tsimonq2> :P
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 clivejo you around?
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[17:47] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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 * hides *
 AHAAA
 there you are!!
 @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie, Ey b0ss, can I habe pizza pls?
[17:59] <clivejo> no
[17:59] <clivejo> no pizza
 :(((
 So are we having a 17.04 planning meeting at UOS?
 Are y'all open to the idea?
 If so, IRC or BBC?
[18:00] <tsimonq2> *BBB
[18:01] <tsimonq2> acheronuk, clivejo, santa_, yofel, ovidiuflorinm^^^^
[18:01] <tsimonq2> s/m//
[18:02] <acheronuk> not fussed
[18:02]  * clivejo cant think that far ahead
[18:02] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: what's that mean?
[18:02] <tsimonq2> clivejo: so can we assume you're in then? ;)
[18:02] <clivejo> noe
[18:02] <clivejo> nope
[18:03] <tsimonq2> any particular reason?
[18:03] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: not fussed between IRC or BBB
[18:03] <clivejo> not going to even think about 17.04 until it gets a name!
 clivejo can I help with the KDevelop plugins?
[18:04] <clivejo> packaging needs to be found, sync'ed with Debian and put into our LP git repo
[18:04] <acheronuk> ZZ names https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames#A17.04
[18:04] <acheronuk> not great so far
[18:05] <tsimonq2> OMG WE NEED ZEALOUS ZEBU
[18:05] <clivejo> we got more than enough tasks with XX and YY
[18:05] <mamarley> Zany Zebra
[18:05] <tsimonq2> speaking of that clivejo, what's left for Yakkety?
[18:06] <clivejo> tsimonq2: are you serious?
[18:06] <tsimonq2> ...
[18:06] <tsimonq2> did it look like I was joking?
[18:07] <clivejo> KDE Apps, Krita, Kdevelop, Calligra, KDE Connect and lots more KDE software people use needs updating
 Isn't that all in apps?
[18:08] <clivejo> nope
 We have a list somewhere?
[18:08] <clivejo> I would have liked to get the new Discover included with support for KDE Store
 And what else?
 We need a list
[18:09] <clivejo> but that news some new packages, which would be a nightmare to get uploaded
[18:09] <clivejo> needs
 Then santa_ needs to check it twice
 :P
 Lol
[18:10] <clivejo> http://download.kde.org/stable/
[18:10] <clivejo> Digikam is another
[18:11] <santa_> tsimonq2: what do I need to check twice?
[18:14] <acheronuk> final freeze is 2 weeks tomorrow
[18:15] <clivejo> ovidiuflorin: I changed the KDevelop project to be maintained and driver as KDevelop Team
[18:25]  * acheronuk feels like hiding until YY release :(
[18:26] <clivejo> !info  kdev-python
 santa_: do you know who the mythical Santa Claus is?
[18:30] <clivejo> anyone want to help with these kdev plugins?
[18:31] <santa_> tsimonq2: yes, and he delivers packages like me
 LOL
 Well he makes a list and checks it twice. He knows if you're naughty or mice.
 *nice
 Lol
 So you have to check the list twice :P
[18:32] <santa_> ah you meant the list of "extra applications" we should update
[18:32] <santa_> I guess we could make an status page for that
[18:32] <santa_> (if we don't have already one)
[19:05] <acheronuk> santa_: not that I know of
[19:06] <acheronuk> need something to keep track of each one we intend to keep up to date, and even a plan for how that can happen and by whom.
[19:06] <acheronuk> for the long term that is
[19:07] <acheronuk> realistically YY is going to be missing a lot
[19:08] <acheronuk> but we can at least do a decent backport set for it
[19:09] <santa_> what I'm not sure yet is what happens with the packages in the release team queue
[19:09] <santa_> they are unblocked when, when the freeze is over?
[19:10] <acheronuk> santa_: we have none left in the queue, so we?
[19:10] <acheronuk> do we?
[19:10] <santa_> argf, I meant -proposed
[19:11] <santa_> some of them are stuck in -proposed without any other excuse by britney
[19:11] <santa_> * without any other excuse than the freeze
[19:12] <acheronuk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration
[19:13] <acheronuk> I've read that many times now, and some of it still seems obscure
[19:21] <valorie> sitter: thanks so much for clarifying on the KD issue
[19:21] <valorie> and thanks to whomever pointed out I needed to join One More Team to edit the wiki
[19:21] <valorie> sheesh
[19:22] <valorie> and look what I saw linked to in #ubuntu-release: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseProcess
[19:22] <valorie> might help us do better planning
[19:22] <acheronuk> more anti-spam precautions
[19:22] <acheronuk> on the wiki ^^
[19:23] <acheronuk> looks very handy to know valorie 
[19:27] <clivejo> @ovidiuflorin kdevelop-python has published, will you test please
[19:31] <clivejo> remember to do a apt update first
[19:35] <ahoneybun> valorie: I started work on a post about Beta 2, can you check out some stuff on it and add some community love ?
[19:36] <valorie> on the site you mean?
[19:36] <valorie> yes
[19:37] <ahoneybun> ye[
[19:37] <ahoneybun> *yep
[19:39] <valorie> more stuff did come through, because I have 244 upgrades
[19:39] <valorie> weeeee
[19:39] <ahoneybun> 250 here
[19:41] <valorie> buh, joined wiki-editors on LP but have to be added, which makes sense
[19:46] <valorie> booting seems faster
[19:53] <clivejo> oh, Im getting FW5.26 from the archive
[19:54] <acheronuk> I'm getting some of it, but not all.
[19:54] <valorie> so perhaps we can get the rest of it into the final?
[19:55] <acheronuk> valorie: that is the idea
[19:58] <acheronuk> the release team topic says "We accept payment in cash, check or beer"
[19:58]  * acheronuk goes looking for beer
[20:00] <ahoneybun> mm I can't scale my UI smaller?
[20:06] <valorie> I will send them all beer if necessary!
[20:14] <soee_> still no news about beta on website?
 valorie ^^^
[20:16] <ahoneybun> we are working on it
[20:17]  * valorie logs in
[20:18] <valorie> ahoneybun: I'm not seeing your article
 I saved the draft
[20:21] <bkerensa> o/
[20:22] <acheronuk> bkerensa: hi :)
[20:22] <bkerensa> hi
[20:27] <valorie> ahoneybun: published
[20:28] <soee_> ! :)
[20:29] <valorie> I'll add to my blogpost
[20:29] <valorie> although our upgrade page is still very sad
[20:30] <valorie> and I'm not entirely sure our main wiki announcement page is good to go
[20:30] <valorie> but I can't edit....
[20:30] <valorie> wooooo, I might be able to!
[20:30] <valorie> wiki eds is there
[20:40] <valorie> we are now distributing Plasma 5.7.2 on the beta, correct?
[20:40] <valorie> so I can link to the correct announcement on kde.org
[20:49] <acheronuk> yes. the manifest with version numbers is here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/16.10/beta-2/kubuntu-16.10-beta2-desktop-amd64.manifest
[20:52] <valorie> oh thank you, acheronuk
[20:52]  * valorie has all the betas seeding now
[20:56] <valorie> so what version of applications do we have? 16.08?
[21:01] <valorie> I have no clue, and the manifest only has packages
[21:02] <valorie> 18th August 2016 - KDE Applications 16.08.0 released  < --- that one?
[21:02] <clivejo> ha
[21:02] <clivejo> 15.12.3 in archive
[21:02] <valorie> or no new
[21:02] <valorie> ok, I won't mention applications then
[21:03] <valorie> are there any new applications included?
[21:03] <clivejo> 16.04.3 staged, but missed the freeze, doubt we'll get them in
[21:03] <valorie> but the freeze is off, clivejo
[21:03] <valorie> once you get your papers, you can upload, correct?
[21:03] <ahoneybun> Plasma 5.7.2 still here
[21:03] <ahoneybun> F2 5.26 though
[21:03] <ahoneybun> *FW
[21:04] <clivejo> valorie: way to go, throw me in at the deep end why dont ya!
[21:04] <valorie> exactly!
[21:05] <clivejo> Ill drown, do you want that on your conscience ?
[21:05] <valorie> you won't drown
[21:05] <valorie> you'll have all your sponsors helping you through it
[21:05]  * clivejo looks around
[21:06] <clivejo> they only coming to watch be squirm 
[21:06] <clivejo> me
[21:07] <valorie> I don't think so, that isn't friendly computer
[21:07] <valorie> computing
[21:08] <valorie> well, maybe sitter wants to watch ya squirm
[21:08] <valorie> lol
[21:08] <clivejo> @ovidiuflorin ovie can you apt update and test that package again please
[21:13] <mparillo_> I updated the wiki for Beta2 based on version numbers on the ISO (before the 245 updates I held off applying until now)
[21:17] <acheronuk> TY mparillo_ 
[21:18] <mparillo_> YW. Next step is to see if I can find bugs tagged for this release, and run them through my little PERL script
[21:19] <valorie> oh, are you working on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/Beta2/Kubuntu ?
[21:20] <valorie> because I am.....
[21:20]  * valorie cancels
[21:20] <valorie> wiki fail
[21:22] <mparillo_> valorie: Yes, I wanted to get the version numbers right before I applied those updates.
[21:23] <valorie> that's what I was working on as well
[21:23] <mparillo_> But that was pretty much all I did so far (if you click Info, I tried to document my changes) 
[21:23] <valorie> I was just counting the ported apps from the porting status page
[21:23] <mparillo_> Ported to KF5? I just stole the count from the KDE announcement.
[21:24] <valorie> but counted everything ported, so my count perhaps should be discounted anyway.....
[21:24] <valorie> heh
[21:40] <mparillo_> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ shows no Yakkety milestoned bugs. I assume either the query is wrong, or we are not tagging our bugs properly. But at least now the URL in the Beta2 Wiki page goes *somewhere*
[21:42] <valorie> shouldn't that be an LP link?
[21:42] <valorie> I removed the old one prematurely
[21:42] <valorie> maybe look at an old announcement?
[21:47] <mparillo_> I think it is because no bugs are tagged kubuntu and are milestoned for 16.10. Do you know how to add a milestone?
[21:51] <valorie> I think we need yofel for that specialized knowledge
[21:58] <mparillo_> only a project owner, driver, series release manager or bug supervisor can target a bug or blueprint to a milestone: other people cannot nominate a chunk work for a milestone (https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/SeriesMilestonesReleases)
[22:01] <valorie> right, he's got the title of release manager
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[23:18] <ahoneybun> soee: is the Person widget using the Desktop Settings icon for you in Neon?
[23:21] <ahoneybun> just noticed that the unit conversion in krunner is fixed
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[23:34] <ahoneybun> http://imgur.com/CAuwoWY
[23:34] <ahoneybun> this is what I was talking about btw
[23:35] <valorie> I'm not sure what they mean by "make the person accessible"?
[23:36] <ahoneybun> well the icon is throwing me off
[23:37] <ahoneybun> we have lots of "People" icons in Breeze
[23:53] <ahoneybun> mm rebooted and had to restart plasma to get my second monitor back from black
[23:53] <ahoneybun> I blame the NVIDIA card
[23:57] <valorie> ooooo, my local fav. restaurant is finally open again
[23:57] <valorie> ciao for now.....