[00:03] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/Beta2/Kubuntu is started [00:04] someone help! [00:04] * valorie is out of blood sugar and it's dinner time [00:19] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kjsembed build #731: STILL FAILING in 53 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kjsembed/731/ [00:21] * tsimonq2 comes to the rescue [00:22] its super simon [00:25] /var/lib/jenkins/tooling3/lib/merger.rb:36:in `*': negative argument (ArgumentError) [00:25] santa_ broke KCI again :P lol [00:25] clivejo: see? I don't have superpowers on this one :( [00:35] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kjsembed build #732: STILL FAILING in 25 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kjsembed/732/ [00:35] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_merger build #678: UNSTABLE in 35 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_merger/678/ [00:35] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_progenitor build #659: UNSTABLE in 35 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_progenitor/659/ [00:47] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_breeze-icons build #271: STILL FAILING in 9 min 18 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_breeze-icons/271/ [00:47] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kde-baseapps build #85: STILL FAILING in 6 min 47 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kde-baseapps/85/ [00:51] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_breeze-icons build #154: STILL FAILING in 10 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_breeze-icons/154/ [01:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_breeze-icons build #155: STILL FAILING in 5 min 6 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_breeze-icons/155/ [01:12] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kdevelop-pg-qt build #31: STILL UNSTABLE in 32 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kdevelop-pg-qt/31/ [01:13] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kidletime build #76: STILL UNSTABLE in 34 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kidletime/76/ [01:14] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kirigami build #23: STILL UNSTABLE in 34 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kirigami/23/ [01:34] I'm trying to make a upgrade page, which is linked to from our announcement of the beta [01:34] I absolutely cannot login to the wiki again, or at least -- I'm logged in, but keep getting kicked to the login page before I can copy our old page [01:35] valorie: login to the Ubuntu wiki [01:36] can someone copy https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades/Kubuntu to a WilyUgrades page? [01:36] I've done it about 30 times now [01:36] it was bad earlier, but not so bad as THIS [01:38] You made the page already no? [01:39] even when logged in "you are not allowed to edit this page" [01:39] I made the main page [01:39] Mm [01:39] but not the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YakketyUpgrades/Kubuntu [01:39] which is linked to from that announcement [01:40] and will be from our release announcemnt [01:40] no clue why I could edit an hour ago and cannot now [01:43] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kopete build #46: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 2 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kopete/46/ [01:43] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_umbrello build #67: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 5 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_umbrello/67/ [01:43] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kppp build #70: STILL UNSTABLE in 56 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kppp/70/ [01:43] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_okular build #80: STILL UNSTABLE in 55 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_okular/80/ [01:43] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kopete build #69: STILL UNSTABLE in 56 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kopete/69/ [01:44] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kdesdk-kioslaves build #66: STILL UNSTABLE in 56 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kdesdk-kioslaves/66/ [01:44] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kde-runtime build #173: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 3 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kde-runtime/173/ [01:44] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [01:44] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_plasma-workspace build #244: FIXED in 1 hr 6 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_plasma-workspace/244/ [01:44] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kde-runtime build #167: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 2 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kde-runtime/167/ [01:44] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_umbrello build #74: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 2 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_umbrello/74/ [01:44] The wiki has always been trash [01:44] Could we change the link to go to a user base/community kde page? [01:47] we could, and maybe that's what we'll have to do [01:47] :( [02:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kde-runtime build #174: STILL FAILING in 50 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kde-runtime/174/ [02:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kauth build #141: STILL UNSTABLE in 55 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kauth/141/ [02:40] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kde-runtime build #168: STILL FAILING in 51 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kde-runtime/168/ [02:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_breeze-icons build #272: STILL FAILING in 6 min 38 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_breeze-icons/272/ [02:54] why sad about it valorie? [02:54] we all know MediaWiki is better anyway [02:55] because I want the proper wiki to work [02:55] and I want to copy the old page, and am unable to do even that [03:13] mm so what page needs to be made? [03:13] the upgrade one from Xenial? [03:15] I got in valorie [03:15] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YakketyUpgrades/Kubuntu is what needs to be made [03:16] I was going to copy in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades/Kubuntu and just edit that [03:16] seems it is made [03:16] ? [03:16] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WilyUpgrades/Kubuntu [03:16] opps [03:17] :-) [03:17] that one can be copied [03:17] that's how I usually do it, anyway [03:17] copy the old page and just fix [03:18] alright it's made [03:18] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YakketyUpgrades/Kubuntu [03:19] I did a few things [03:19] saved and free if you want to jump in somehow [03:19] are we using Discover for updates now [03:19] ? [03:20] valorie: ^ [03:21] is it working from the beta? [03:21] I didn't test that [03:22] gah, I can read the page, but still can't login [03:23] screenies aren't made yet, correct? [03:23] want to make a pastebin and I'll put the changes in? [03:23] I don't have any atm [03:23] nothing clean ie base wallpaper [03:24] I just wish my breeze settings would work [03:24] sorry, my brain is being slow to come back [03:26] Its fine [03:30] * ahoneybun throws Breeze out the window [03:31] so tired of the icons not matching at all [03:32] even weird that Chrome is not anywhere on my system but it is install [03:33] no menu's can find it [03:33] http://imgur.com/56gGtzO [03:34] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kidletime build #264: STILL UNSTABLE in 54 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kidletime/264/ [07:00] acheronuk: I have fixed that bug in do-all about quotes and double quotes [07:01] however note that you still have to use the double quotes if you want to execute 2 commands such as [07:01] do-all "gbp-ppa && uploadsorce -t " [07:02] that last one can NOT be fixed because ... it's the shell behaviour [07:02] clivejo: ↑ [07:25] santa_: great. thanks. :) [07:42] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kde-baseapps build #86: STILL FAILING in 1 min 21 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kde-baseapps/86/ [07:52] acheronuk: ‎[22:54] ‎<‎acheronuk‎>‎ I assume that KC can vote collectively in place of one -dev? [07:52] KC has no authority [07:52] KD votes based on a mandate by the technical board [07:53] so if one were short of a KD quorum one would need technical board members or ubuntu-core-dev members (as latter are KDs by virtue of being devs with super powers) [07:53] sitter: yes. it was a vote on something else I was thinking of I think [07:53] ah [07:54] ‎[22:53] ‎<‎valorie‎>‎ however, if we can't round up enough KDs, the KC will probably have to chime in [07:54] valorie: note above [07:54] sitter: ninja team membership I think [07:54] does the KD vote on this [07:55] check the wiki page describing all the teams [07:55] I think there's a voting intent description on there [07:56] Requirements: Existing ~kubuntu-members member, survive an interview by ~kubuntu-dev, get accepted by a majority of existing developers and at least 3 existing developers. [07:56] there you have it then [07:56] same rules apply [07:56] https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Policies#.7Ekubuntu-dev [07:56] if a KD quorum cannot be reached you'll need TB or core-dev [07:57] it's because this is a technical evaluation and not "just" a trust evaluation (as for example membership) [07:59] ty sitter - at least it's clear now what hurdles need to be overcome [08:07] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kstars build #244: STILL UNSTABLE in 53 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kstars/244/ [08:07] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kstars build #116: STILL UNSTABLE in 53 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kstars/116/ [08:07] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kde-baseapps build #90: STILL FAILING in 1 min 29 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kde-baseapps/90/ [08:15] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kde-baseapps build #91: STILL FAILING in 2 min 12 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kde-baseapps/91/ [08:33] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_ktp-common-internals build #195: STILL UNSTABLE in 53 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_ktp-common-internals/195/ === pavlushka is now known as Guest6734 === Guest6734 is now known as pavlushka [08:54] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_marble build #215: STILL FAILING in 19 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_marble/215/ [08:56] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_marble build #179: STILL FAILING in 20 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_marble/179/ [09:04] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_plasma-pa build #97: STILL FAILING in 29 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_plasma-pa/97/ [09:04] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kirigami build #27: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kirigami/27/ [09:05] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_ktp-auth-handler build #169: STILL UNSTABLE in 31 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_ktp-auth-handler/169/ [09:19] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_marble build #180: STILL FAILING in 18 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_marble/180/ [09:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_marble build #216: STILL FAILING in 25 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_marble/216/ [09:33] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_plasma-pa build #98: STILL FAILING in 24 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_plasma-pa/98/ [09:34] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_messagelib build #101: STILL FAILING in 58 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_messagelib/101/ [09:34] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_messagelib build #97: STILL FAILING in 59 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_messagelib/97/ [09:34] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_ktp-common-internals build #122: STILL UNSTABLE in 59 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_ktp-common-internals/122/ [09:36] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kwin build #240: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 2 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kwin/240/ [09:55] I am logged into the wiki, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/Beta2/Kubuntu still shows as immutable. [10:00] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_ktp-auth-handler build #123: STILL UNSTABLE in 26 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_ktp-auth-handler/123/ [10:12] appears editable to me? [10:25] i wonder .. if KDE provides snaps for all their apps http://mhall119.com/2016/09/desktop-app-snap-in-300kb than Kubuntu has to package them anyway or just use those snaps without any extra packaging etc ? [10:27] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_messagelib build #102: STILL FAILING in 48 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_messagelib/102/ [10:27] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_messagelib build #98: STILL FAILING in 48 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_messagelib/98/ [10:30] They do [10:31] http://distribute.kde.org/snappy-testing/ [10:32] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kdepim-addons build #73: STILL FAILING in 45 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kdepim-addons/73/ [10:32] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kdepim-addons build #56: STILL FAILING in 1 min 17 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kdepim-addons/56/ [10:38] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kdepim-addons build #57: STILL FAILING in 40 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kdepim-addons/57/ [10:38] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kdepim-addons build #74: STILL FAILING in 1 min 12 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kdepim-addons/74/ [10:53] soee_: I believe sitter is working on that via KDE Neon [10:54] and Scarlett I think [10:55] clivejo: yes but will it help Kubuntu to stop dealing with Apps if snaps will show up? [10:57] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kio build #269: FAILURE in 52 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kio/269/ [10:58] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kio build #270: STILL FAILING in 1 min 21 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kio/270/ [10:58] soee_: kubuntu would still want to do apps releases. just that kubuntu users may be able to use newer versions for particular apps/features straight away via snaps, rather than wait for normal backport of the whole release [10:58] soee_: I guess that depends on the end users and how easy (or how hard) it is to install and update snaps [10:59] or at least that is the way I read it.... [10:59] just because its there does not mean users will migrate to it [10:59] very much creatures of habit [11:00] but its a choice and choice is good :) [11:00] good usage case may be latest PIM etc? for those that want it? [11:01] yes and KDE software not in apps buddle [11:01] bundle [11:04] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kio build #271: STILL FAILING in 1 min 8 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kio/271/ [11:15] no news about Beta http://kubuntu.org/news/ ? [11:16] soee_: flavors release announcements after Ubuntu does, Lubuntu's once done it 12 *hours* after! [11:16] basically, wait until someone does it ;) [11:17] (I don't know if that makes much sense) [11:17] i see news about the release [11:17] acheronuk: I made some improvements in new KA tooling based on our last experience using it [11:17] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-16.10-Beta-Final [11:17] acheronuk: 1. now you can do "gbp-ppa -d yakkety,xenial" [11:18] acheronuk: 2. now uploadsource can guess the staging ppa target based on the package you are uploading [11:19] acheronuk: 3. now uploadsource has some safety checks to prevent us from uploading something to PPAs with unpushed changes in git [11:20] to-do: safety checks for dev-package-names-list branches [11:21] santa_: all sounds very goo :) [11:21] good [11:22] lets hope it is, let me know if you find any issue [11:28] ok :) [11:28] clivejo are you around? [11:28] ish! [11:29] tsdgeos, thanks a lot (for the shortcuts fix)! [11:29] you don't seem happy to hear me [11:29] Mirv: should you have a second to do so, could you prod armhf to retry build of this? thanks https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-workspace/4:5.7.5-0ubuntu1 [11:29] * clivejo is working on a super secret project [11:30] clivejo, I see that KDevelop in KCI builds successfully [11:30] acheronuk: done [11:30] any chance of getting that in backports? [11:30] ovidiuflorin: yes, fixed it the other day [11:30] clivejo: better conquer the world while at it! [11:30] Mirv: TY :) [11:31] clivejo, how can I bribe you for that? [11:31] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kdeplasma-addons build #82: STILL UNSTABLE in 59 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kdeplasma-addons/82/ [11:31] ovidiuflorin: that version is the latest git [11:31] I'm reffering to 5.0.1 not master [11:31] cant go into backports, only stable, tested software [11:31] if they are the same, then good for it [11:32] ok, then [11:32] where can it go now so I can test the hell out pf it? [11:32] of* [11:32] Id like it in yakkety, but doubt theres any chance of that :( [11:32] clivejo, can you put it in one of your PPAs? [11:34] well Phil and I discussed about setting up a project PPA for each them and getting KCI to copy the packages across on sucessful build [11:34] but I havent seen him around to move forward on that idea [11:34] clivejo, acheronuk, santa_: SO, now that final beta is out, what happened? [11:34] we get things to migrate? :D [11:35] clivejo, can we get it in a private PPA? or make a PPA for the project now? [11:36] I have about 30 minutes to do something [11:36] so I can have a better life with KDevelop [11:36] after that I'm back to work [11:36] need to speak to Phil on how to do that [11:36] tsimonq2: I just asked Mirν to trigger the last blocking failure on building, at least I think? [11:37] tsimonq2: them it's autopackagetest migration fun! [11:37] then [11:37] tsimonq2: I guess that's a question for #ubuntu-release I'm still not used to ubuntu's "bureaucracy", I'm learning on the fly [11:37] clivejo, then can we use a private PPA for now? [11:37] I would like to see the project page linking to a PPA - https://launchpad.net/kdevelop4 [11:38] well create a new one for kdevelop5 [11:38] it shouldn't be kdevelop4 [11:38] why not just kdevelop ? [11:38] tsimonq2: See what needs fixing. See what we can bribe the -release team to let through failing tests. etc [11:38] and done [11:38] but I dont know if KCI can copy to project PPA [11:39] probably have to be one we own [11:39] santa_: my first time round on this as well [11:39] I'm creating a KDevelop project now in LP [11:41] oh good lord [11:41] LP: kdevelop is already used by another project [11:42] but haunchpad.net/kdevelop results in a 404 [11:42] Harold has added himself on Doodle [11:43] clivejo should I make a Kdevelop5 one? [11:43] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_audiocd-kio build #39: STILL FAILING in 4 min 45 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_audiocd-kio/39/ [11:43] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_audiocd-kio build #42: STILL FAILING in 4 min 52 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_audiocd-kio/42/ [11:44] maybe ask in LP channel why kdevelop wont register [11:44] that's exactly what I was doing :D [11:44] Phil is on the poll as well :) [11:46] Mon 3rd @ 8pm looks a good option ATM [11:47] I found this: https://launchpad.net/~kdevelop [11:47] yup [11:48] acheronuk: will do a little later ;) [11:48] Thats a team [11:48] On the bus [11:48] but a team can have a PPA I think [11:48] it seems to be owned by the KC [11:49] I dont understand LP that well [11:49] anyway, lunch time [11:50] ovie have a chat with LP team and see what the best way to do it [11:50] we need something with a PPA we can upload to [11:50] it's fixed [11:50] they renamed the old inactive project [11:50] I'm creating a project now [11:53] which team should I make as maintainer? [11:53] clivejo? [11:53] Kubuntu NINJAS [11:53] kubuntu-ninjas? [11:53] @ovidiuflorin, Yes [11:54] Done: https://launchpad.net/kdevelop [11:54] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_audiocd-kio build #43: STILL FAILING in 5 min 54 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_audiocd-kio/43/ [11:55] ¡Bueno! [11:55] I'll write something in a few hours during my lunch break unless someone beats me to it [11:55] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_audiocd-kio build #40: STILL FAILING in 6 min 46 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_audiocd-kio/40/ [12:18] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [12:18] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kio build #272: FIXED in 53 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kio/272/ [12:21] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_audiocd-kio build #41: STILL FAILING in 4 min 44 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_audiocd-kio/41/ [12:22] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_audiocd-kio build #44: STILL FAILING in 5 min 53 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_audiocd-kio/44/ [12:23] Hey folks [12:32] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_audiocd-kio build #42: STILL FAILING in 5 min 51 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_audiocd-kio/42/ [12:33] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_audiocd-kio build #45: STILL FAILING in 5 min 22 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_audiocd-kio/45/ [13:01] I try to do a helloworld with PyKDE, > http://wklej.org/id/2871699 it works but when closing the KApplication it says KCrash: Application 'test.py' crashing... anyone an idea? [13:04] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_audiocd-kio build #46: STILL FAILING in 7 min 23 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_audiocd-kio/46/ [13:04] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_audiocd-kio build #43: STILL FAILING in 7 min 45 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_audiocd-kio/43/ [13:15] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_audiocd-kio build #44: STILL FAILING in 5 min 13 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_audiocd-kio/44/ [13:15] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_audiocd-kio build #47: STILL FAILING in 5 min 59 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_audiocd-kio/47/ [14:32] some updates coming through [14:42] @ovidiuflorin did you create ppa:kdevelop/daily ? [14:42] acheronuk: The Beta2 page is still an Immutable Page to me, even though it shows I am logged in. Are you a member of some special group? ISTR that there was a spam problem, but I am in Users of the Ubuntu Etherpad instance which I thought was used for authentication after the spam attack. [14:43] marco-parillo: this page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/Beta2/Kubuntu [14:43] Exactly [14:44] marco-parillo: are you a member of? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wiki-editors [14:45] you need to be if not ^^^^ [14:46] TY [14:47] "Your request to join Ubuntu Wiki Editors is awaiting approval." [14:48] yep. popey is the one to authorise for that [14:51] Over 200 upgrades to Yakkety, but no fix for X drawing the desktop below the panel. [15:04] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_libkcddb build #38: STILL FAILING in 4 min 49 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_libkcddb/38/ [15:06] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_libkcddb build #46: STILL FAILING in 6 min 24 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_libkcddb/46/ [15:14] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_libkcddb build #39: STILL FAILING in 4 min 18 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_libkcddb/39/ [15:16] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_libkcddb build #47: STILL FAILING in 4 min 53 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_libkcddb/47/ [15:23] Good stuff [15:23] acheronuk: please make a list of things to fix so I can go through it [15:26] TY acheronuk . I am in. I had to log out, and log in again, ticking the wiki editors box. Social Media graphics are back. [15:27] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_libkcddb build #40: STILL FAILING in 3 min 50 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_libkcddb/40/ [15:28] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_libkcddb build #48: STILL FAILING in 5 min 0 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_libkcddb/48/ [15:37] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_libkcddb build #41: STILL FAILING in 4 min 25 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_libkcddb/41/ [15:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_libkcddb build #49: STILL FAILING in 5 min 53 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_libkcddb/49/ [15:55] * clivejo yawns [15:55] Does anyone know if Jussi will restock https://holvi.com/shop/Kubuntu/ at some point? Or is there a different site I should know about now to buy Kubuntu things [15:56] ( where at least some of the funds go back to the project ) [15:57] genii: our website seems to be pointing to different supplier [15:57] https://www.hellotux.com/kubuntu [15:57] clivejo: Cool, thanks! [15:58] * clivejo thinks Kubuntu Members should get a free one [15:58] +1 [16:00] to wear to events etc [16:03] I like this one - https://www.hellotux.com/black_kubuntu_pique_polo_shirt [16:04] @clivejo, I prefer the normal black tee myself [16:05] the "youth" one? [16:05] lol. no, adult [16:05] youth one seems bigger and in the centre [16:06] wonder can they embroider more details on it [16:06] like name and IRC nick :) [16:07] hmmm........ "Harald from Germany wrote about HELLOTUX: "Ok, the shipping was very fast." July 2015" [16:10] "We embroider every shirt individually, with care and love using our programmable embroidery machine." [16:10] so clivejo, I suspect that could be arranged to have personal details? [16:10] would be a nice touch? [16:11] yep [16:11] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_libkcddb build #42: STILL FAILING in 5 min 48 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_libkcddb/42/ [16:11] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_libkcddb build #50: STILL FAILING in 5 min 55 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_libkcddb/50/ [16:14] just khotkeys on armhf to build, and then that is all of FW 5.26 and plasma 5.7.5 built in the archive [16:14] Yay! [16:14] Great job in getting all that stuff ready! [16:14] not migrated out of proposed, but at least all built [16:15] ok, well Ive got Scarlett, Scott, Haruld and Philip on Monday, 3rd Oct between 20:00 and 22:00 [16:15] * acheronuk gulps [16:16] should I just go ahead and plan for 20:00 then? [16:17] Simon isnt available until 22:00 [16:17] so that's a positive :P [16:17] it looked the logical choice to me earlier, but not my choice [16:17] Well technically 21 [16:17] LOL [16:18] Wait a minute [16:18] 20:00 for sure then :P [16:18] No [16:18] I'll be ready for 20 [16:18] That's 3 pm [16:18] I'll be on the bus [16:18] * clivejo face palms [16:18] Nice try clivejo ;) [16:18] clivejo: 19:00 hrs then> [16:19] thats too early for Phil [16:19] Remember, my passing time is 5 mins [16:19] PLENTY of time to say hi [16:19] Lol [16:19] You can't win here Clive [16:19] Lol [16:20] * acheronuk wonders if a cell phone outage in Wisconsin cane be arranged [16:20] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_libkcddb build #43: STILL FAILING in 3 min 45 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_libkcddb/43/ [16:21] tsimonq2: you marked yourself as unavailable, cant change your mind now! [16:27] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_libkcddb build #51: STILL FAILING in 10 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_libkcddb/51/ [16:50] ovidiuflorin: can you test these - https://launchpad.net/~kdevelop/+archive/ubuntu/release/+packages [17:09] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_libkcddb build #44: STILL FAILING in 4 min 46 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_libkcddb/44/ [17:10] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_libkcddb build #52: STILL FAILING in 6 min 22 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_libkcddb/52/ [17:19] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_libkcddb build #45: STILL FAILING in 4 min 46 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_libkcddb/45/ [17:21] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_libkcddb build #53: STILL FAILING in 5 min 13 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_libkcddb/53/ [17:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_libkcddb build #46: STILL FAILING in 4 min 47 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_libkcddb/46/ [17:26] clivejo: well it's your fault for not allowing ifneedbes [17:26] :P [17:27] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_libkcddb build #54: STILL FAILING in 6 min 21 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_libkcddb/54/ [17:34] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_libkcddb build #47: STILL FAILING in 4 min 47 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_libkcddb/47/ [17:34] clivejo you around? [17:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_libkcddb build #55: STILL FAILING in 7 min 24 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_libkcddb/55/ [17:43] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kjsembed build #733: STILL FAILING in 16 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kjsembed/733/ [17:47] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [17:47] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kjsembed build #734: FIXED in 24 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kjsembed/734/ [17:52] * hides * [17:54] AHAAA [17:54] there you are!! [17:54] @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie, Ey b0ss, can I habe pizza pls? [17:59] no [17:59] no pizza [17:59] :((( [18:00] So are we having a 17.04 planning meeting at UOS? [18:00] Are y'all open to the idea? [18:00] If so, IRC or BBC? [18:00] *BBB [18:01] acheronuk, clivejo, santa_, yofel, ovidiuflorinm^^^^ [18:01] s/m// [18:02] not fussed [18:02] * clivejo cant think that far ahead [18:02] acheronuk: what's that mean? [18:02] clivejo: so can we assume you're in then? ;) [18:02] noe [18:02] nope [18:03] any particular reason? [18:03] tsimonq2: not fussed between IRC or BBB [18:03] not going to even think about 17.04 until it gets a name! [18:03] clivejo can I help with the KDevelop plugins? [18:04] packaging needs to be found, sync'ed with Debian and put into our LP git repo [18:04] ZZ names https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames#A17.04 [18:04] not great so far [18:05] OMG WE NEED ZEALOUS ZEBU [18:05] we got more than enough tasks with XX and YY [18:05] Zany Zebra [18:05] speaking of that clivejo, what's left for Yakkety? [18:06] tsimonq2: are you serious? [18:06] ... [18:06] did it look like I was joking? [18:07] KDE Apps, Krita, Kdevelop, Calligra, KDE Connect and lots more KDE software people use needs updating [18:08] Isn't that all in apps? [18:08] nope [18:08] We have a list somewhere? [18:08] I would have liked to get the new Discover included with support for KDE Store [18:09] And what else? [18:09] We need a list [18:09] but that news some new packages, which would be a nightmare to get uploaded [18:09] needs [18:10] Then santa_ needs to check it twice [18:10] :P [18:10] Lol [18:10] http://download.kde.org/stable/ [18:10] Digikam is another [18:11] tsimonq2: what do I need to check twice? [18:14] final freeze is 2 weeks tomorrow [18:15] ovidiuflorin: I changed the KDevelop project to be maintained and driver as KDevelop Team [18:25] * acheronuk feels like hiding until YY release :( [18:26] !info kdev-python [18:26] kdev-python (source: kdev-python): KDevelop Python Plugin. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.7.3-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 1696 kB, installed size 12696 kB [18:29] santa_: do you know who the mythical Santa Claus is? [18:30] anyone want to help with these kdev plugins? [18:31] tsimonq2: yes, and he delivers packages like me [18:31] LOL [18:31] Well he makes a list and checks it twice. He knows if you're naughty or mice. [18:31] *nice [18:31] Lol [18:32] So you have to check the list twice :P [18:32] ah you meant the list of "extra applications" we should update [18:32] I guess we could make an status page for that [18:32] (if we don't have already one) [19:05] santa_: not that I know of [19:06] need something to keep track of each one we intend to keep up to date, and even a plan for how that can happen and by whom. [19:06] for the long term that is [19:07] realistically YY is going to be missing a lot [19:08] but we can at least do a decent backport set for it [19:09] what I'm not sure yet is what happens with the packages in the release team queue [19:09] they are unblocked when, when the freeze is over? [19:10] santa_: we have none left in the queue, so we? [19:10] do we? [19:10] argf, I meant -proposed [19:11] some of them are stuck in -proposed without any other excuse by britney [19:11] * without any other excuse than the freeze [19:12] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration [19:13] I've read that many times now, and some of it still seems obscure [19:21] sitter: thanks so much for clarifying on the KD issue [19:21] and thanks to whomever pointed out I needed to join One More Team to edit the wiki [19:21] sheesh [19:22] and look what I saw linked to in #ubuntu-release: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseProcess [19:22] might help us do better planning [19:22] more anti-spam precautions [19:22] on the wiki ^^ [19:23] looks very handy to know valorie [19:27] @ovidiuflorin kdevelop-python has published, will you test please [19:31] remember to do a apt update first [19:35] valorie: I started work on a post about Beta 2, can you check out some stuff on it and add some community love ? [19:36] on the site you mean? [19:36] yes [19:37] ye[ [19:37] *yep [19:39] more stuff did come through, because I have 244 upgrades [19:39] weeeee [19:39] 250 here [19:41] buh, joined wiki-editors on LP but have to be added, which makes sense [19:46] booting seems faster [19:53] oh, Im getting FW5.26 from the archive [19:54] I'm getting some of it, but not all. [19:54] so perhaps we can get the rest of it into the final? [19:55] valorie: that is the idea [19:58] the release team topic says "We accept payment in cash, check or beer" [19:58] * acheronuk goes looking for beer [20:00] mm I can't scale my UI smaller? [20:06] I will send them all beer if necessary! [20:14] still no news about beta on website? [20:14] valorie ^^^ [20:16] we are working on it [20:17] * valorie logs in [20:18] ahoneybun: I'm not seeing your article [20:21] I saved the draft [20:21] o/ [20:22] bkerensa: hi :) [20:22] hi [20:27] ahoneybun: published [20:28] ! :) [20:29] I'll add to my blogpost [20:29] although our upgrade page is still very sad [20:30] and I'm not entirely sure our main wiki announcement page is good to go [20:30] but I can't edit.... [20:30] wooooo, I might be able to! [20:30] wiki eds is there [20:40] we are now distributing Plasma 5.7.2 on the beta, correct? [20:40] so I can link to the correct announcement on kde.org [20:49] yes. the manifest with version numbers is here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/16.10/beta-2/kubuntu-16.10-beta2-desktop-amd64.manifest [20:52] oh thank you, acheronuk [20:52] * valorie has all the betas seeding now [20:56] so what version of applications do we have? 16.08? [21:01] I have no clue, and the manifest only has packages [21:02] 18th August 2016 - KDE Applications 16.08.0 released < --- that one? [21:02] ha [21:02] 15.12.3 in archive [21:02] or no new [21:02] ok, I won't mention applications then [21:03] are there any new applications included? [21:03] 16.04.3 staged, but missed the freeze, doubt we'll get them in [21:03] but the freeze is off, clivejo [21:03] once you get your papers, you can upload, correct? [21:03] Plasma 5.7.2 still here [21:03] F2 5.26 though [21:03] *FW [21:04] valorie: way to go, throw me in at the deep end why dont ya! [21:04] exactly! [21:05] Ill drown, do you want that on your conscience ? [21:05] you won't drown [21:05] you'll have all your sponsors helping you through it [21:05] * clivejo looks around [21:06] they only coming to watch be squirm [21:06] me [21:07] I don't think so, that isn't friendly computer [21:07] computing [21:08] well, maybe sitter wants to watch ya squirm [21:08] lol [21:08] @ovidiuflorin ovie can you apt update and test that package again please [21:13] I updated the wiki for Beta2 based on version numbers on the ISO (before the 245 updates I held off applying until now) [21:17] TY mparillo_ [21:18] YW. Next step is to see if I can find bugs tagged for this release, and run them through my little PERL script [21:19] oh, are you working on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/Beta2/Kubuntu ? [21:20] because I am..... [21:20] * valorie cancels [21:20] wiki fail === acheronuk is now known as acheron_goneforb === acheron_goneforb is now known as acheronuk [21:22] valorie: Yes, I wanted to get the version numbers right before I applied those updates. [21:23] that's what I was working on as well [21:23] But that was pretty much all I did so far (if you click Info, I tried to document my changes) [21:23] I was just counting the ported apps from the porting status page [21:23] Ported to KF5? I just stole the count from the KDE announcement. [21:24] but counted everything ported, so my count perhaps should be discounted anyway..... [21:24] heh [21:40] http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ shows no Yakkety milestoned bugs. I assume either the query is wrong, or we are not tagging our bugs properly. But at least now the URL in the Beta2 Wiki page goes *somewhere* [21:42] shouldn't that be an LP link? [21:42] I removed the old one prematurely [21:42] maybe look at an old announcement? [21:47] I think it is because no bugs are tagged kubuntu and are milestoned for 16.10. Do you know how to add a milestone? [21:51] I think we need yofel for that specialized knowledge [21:58] only a project owner, driver, series release manager or bug supervisor can target a bug or blueprint to a milestone: other people cannot nominate a chunk work for a milestone (https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/SeriesMilestonesReleases) [22:01] right, he's got the title of release manager [23:15] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_libkcddb build #48: STILL FAILING in 5 min 44 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_libkcddb/48/ [23:15] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_libkcddb build #56: STILL FAILING in 6 min 20 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_libkcddb/56/ [23:18] soee: is the Person widget using the Desktop Settings icon for you in Neon? [23:21] just noticed that the unit conversion in krunner is fixed [23:26] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_libkcddb build #49: STILL FAILING in 5 min 43 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_libkcddb/49/ [23:26] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_libkcddb build #57: STILL FAILING in 5 min 18 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_libkcddb/57/ [23:34] http://imgur.com/CAuwoWY [23:34] this is what I was talking about btw [23:35] I'm not sure what they mean by "make the person accessible"? [23:36] well the icon is throwing me off [23:37] we have lots of "People" icons in Breeze [23:53] mm rebooted and had to restart plasma to get my second monitor back from black [23:53] I blame the NVIDIA card [23:57] ooooo, my local fav. restaurant is finally open again [23:57] ciao for now.....