[03:08] <cablop> how can i disable baloo?
[04:29] <Michael20552> Hello!! I need help plz
[04:30] <Michael20552> Any can help me?
[04:33] <Michael20552> u.u
[04:33] <valorie> Michael20552: with what?
[04:33] <valorie> this is a help channel, but we can't read your mind
[04:33] <Michael20552> I want updagre plasma to version 5.7
[04:34] <Michael20552> i've 5.6.5
[04:34] <Michael20552> (my english is too bad, sorry)
[04:35] <Michael20552> I try with "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports" and "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade -y" and nothing...
[04:35] <valorie> nothing?
[04:36] <valorie> i'm not sure what you mean
[04:36] <Michael20552> Nothing happens
[04:36] <Michael20552> ^
[04:36] <valorie> put your readout in a pastebin
[04:36] <valorie> !paste
[04:37] <valorie> I'm not sure what version is in backports
[04:37] <Michael20552> only want upgrade to last version of kde Plasma =/
[04:38] <valorie> we had a problem with Ubuntu not providing a too-old version of Qt
[04:38] <valorie> I can't recall what got into backports
[04:39] <Michael20552> so..
[04:39] <valorie>  I have plasma 5.7.2 in Yakkety
[04:40] <valorie> the beta that will be published tomorrow morning
[04:41] <Michael20552> I'l be able to install this version?
[04:41] <Michael20552> *will
[04:41] <valorie> we have only a few people working
[04:41] <valorie> we're doing the best we can
[04:42] <valorie> certainly
[04:42] <valorie> we've been calling for testers.....
[04:42] <valorie> I've been running it for months
[04:43] <Michael20552> But I've seen many people who have been able to install in ubuntu plasma kde 5.7, right?
[04:43] <valorie> in the next version, yes
[04:44] <Michael20552> So these people have another O.S? Not ubuntu?
[04:45] <valorie> ? I'm running Kubuntu 16.10, as I said
[04:45] <user|43177> Hi sorry to disturb, I have a question that I belive has a quick answer, when Im using Kubuntu 16.04 live I can properly set up my 3 screens , but after installing it I can't change anything, whats the first thing I should do?
[04:46] <valorie> user|43177: after installing what?
[04:46] <Michael20552> Oh sorry, i've Ubuntu 16.04 lts
[04:46] <user|43177> Or how can I copy the live cd xorg config (I know its now autodetected and no longer uses the etc file)
[04:50] <valorie> user|43177: are you saying that Ubuntu 16.04 worked with with 3 screens, but Kubuntu 16.04 you can't?
[04:51] <valorie> there was a problem for awhile in Qt, if so
[04:51] <valorie> fixed in the latest
[04:52] <valorie> which unfortunately is not in 16.04
[04:53] <user|43177> before installing Kubuntu 16.04 i tested it on a live USB
[04:53] <user|43177> on that live USB my 3 monitors were properly detected
[04:53] <user|43177> after making a full install, only 1 of my screen is detected and I cant change the configuration
[04:53] <user|43177> So I was asking if there is a way for me to copy the live USB cfg
[04:54] <user|43177> or if I should dig deeper and pick another sollution?
[04:54] <valorie> the config comes from the liveUSB
[05:05] <user|91555> system shut down I was teh one asking about the cfg
[05:05] <user|91555> I lost any messages
[05:05] <user|91555> xorg cfg
[05:08] <valorie> user|91555:
[05:08] <valorie> the config comes from the liveUSB
[05:08] <user|91555> ajam? but the result is different
[08:43] <Shakyamuni> hay
[08:44] <Vorap> Hello Shakyamuni
[08:44] <Shakyamuni> hello, Vorap
[08:45] <lordievader> o/
[08:51] <muixirt> hi, after waking up from suspend to ram i sometimes only get a black screen with a mouse cursor in it. how can i investigate what causes it?
[08:52] <lordievader> Deno: Backports contains newer releases from KDE, KDE considers them stable.
[08:52] <lordievader> muixirt: Sounds like plasmashell dying, can you still open a konsole?
[08:55] <Vorap> muixirt: You can change to another tty using ctrl + alt + f1
[08:57] <muixirt> Vorap, lordievader: yes
[08:57] <lordievader> muixirt: Find the process id of plasmashell, kill it and run in krunner (alt + f2) 'kstart plasmashell'.
[08:58] <muixirt> the only thing i do right now is rebooting, ps tells me that a *lot* of kworker threads are spinned up
[08:59] <muixirt> lordievader: will try next time it happend, thanks
[10:32] <YuxKukMo> hi guys! can anyone tell me why this error messages appeared to me after runing source ~/.bashrc?
[10:33] <YuxKukMo> the messages are: syntax error near unexpected token `then'  and `if [ -z "$debian_chroot" ] && [ -r /etc/debian_chroot ]; then'
[10:34] <YuxKukMo> i've made a separate file named .bash_aliases. after running source ~/.bashrc the mentioned errors occured
[10:34] <YuxKukMo> nothing was modified in the .bashrc file
[10:35] <Vorap> I have a feeling this has something to do with the dot
[10:35] <Vorap> But I am not sure
[10:35] <Vorap> I can't look further into this right now
[10:35] <Vorap> Sorry
[11:02] <proxx> Does anyone know a window manager / de that has proper multi gpu support, Ive used a lot of de/wms throughout the years but cant find any that just works in this setup
[11:37] <Haohmaru> i'm running kubuntu14.04 with lxde, and i wanna use a printer over the network (hosted by samba/cups) but i don't have any printer settings anywhere in the menu
[11:37] <Haohmaru> i'm not even sure if this is a kubuntu issue or lxde issue or what
[12:09] <lordievader> YuxKukMo: Could you pastebin your full bashrc?
[12:10] <YuxKukMo> lordie:yes
[12:14] <YuxKukMo> !paste
[12:14] <YuxKukMo> https://paste.kde.org/pxqamtvxl
[12:14] <YuxKukMo> lordie: check the paste link
[12:16] <YuxKukMo> it's nothing fancy in the file. just the default file
[12:17] <lordievader> YuxKukMo: Do you still have the error if you replace the dot in line 91 with 'source'?
[12:18] <YuxKukMo> let me check
[12:20] <YuxKukMo> yes
[12:21] <lordievader> Hmm
[12:22] <lordievader> What happens if you run 'bash ~/.bashrc'?
[12:22] <YuxKukMo> line 6: return: can only `return' from a function or sourced script
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:25] <lordievader> YuxKukMo: Could you comment line 24 and try again?
[12:25] <lordievader> My bash doesn't complain after commenting that line.
[12:28] <YuxKukMo> YES
[12:29] <lordievader> Was that the culprit?
[12:32] <YuxKukMo> nope
[12:33] <YuxKukMo> i will delete .bashrc file and put a new .bashrc file
[12:34] <lordievader> Hmm, for my bash the file is okay.
[12:34] <YuxKukMo> can you paste yours?
[12:35] <lordievader> Err
[12:35] <lordievader> I don't use bash... Just occured to me that I don't even have a bashrc.
[12:35] <YuxKukMo> ok
[12:36] <lordievader> YuxKukMo: There should be a system bashrc in /etc/bash/bashrc
[12:38] <YuxKukMo> indeed
[12:39] <BluesKaj> lordievader, that file doesn't exist here , but I do have a ~/.bashrc file
[12:40] <acheronuk> my bashrc has
[12:40] <acheronuk> # set variable identifying the chroot you work in (used in the prompt below)
[12:40] <acheronuk> if [ -z "$debian_chroot" ] && [ -r /etc/debian_chroot ]; then
[12:40] <acheronuk>     debian_chroot=$(cat /etc/debian_chroot)
[12:40] <acheronuk> fi
[12:40] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Could you pastebin yours for YuxKukMo ?
[12:40] <BluesKaj> sure
[12:41] <YuxKukMo> hmmm, strange... i just tested on another machine and created a file named .bash_aliases entered alias h='history' then run source ~/.bashrc and worked
[12:41] <YuxKukMo> didnt modified anything in .bashrc
[12:42] <YuxKukMo> could be a problem with the .bash_aliases
[12:42] <YuxKukMo> ??
[12:42] <acheronuk> actually I was wrong
[12:42] <BluesKaj> YuxKukMo, http://pastebin.ca/3723111
[12:42] <acheronuk> mine says.....
[12:42] <acheronuk> if [ -z "${debian_chroot:-}" ] && [ -r /etc/debian_chroot ]; then
[12:43] <YuxKukMo> blueskaj: it's identical with what i have on the other machine
[12:43] <YuxKukMo> it's the default file
[12:45] <BluesKaj> YuxKukMo, ~/.bash_aliases links to ~/. bashrc ...I use ~/.bash_alaises for all my aliased cli commands
[12:45] <YuxKukMo> correct.
[12:46] <BluesKaj> yeah ~/.bashrc is default
[12:46] <YuxKukMo> i just copied what you put on pastebin, recreatded the .bashrc file and .bash_aliases and run source command and now it's working
[12:46] <YuxKukMo> so strange
[12:47] <YuxKukMo> i suspect that something was wrong in the .bash_aliases file
[12:47] <BluesKaj> apparently it's good practice to use bash_aliases instead of editing/adding aliases to bashrc
[12:49] <YuxKukMo> but this i what i did but for some weird reason i received those errord
[12:49] <YuxKukMo> *errors
[12:51] <YuxKukMo> lordie, blueskaj: thank you
[12:51] <BluesKaj> YuxKukMo, np
[12:53] <lordievader> YuxKukMo: No problem.
[12:55] <YuxKukMo> :))))
[13:12] <YuxKukMo> well, it's working despite the fact the chroot error appeared again:)))
[14:52] <atdprhs> Hi, have anyone came accross an issue with wireless, where after a while of being connected, it just stops sending/receiving, kinda like freezing but you can still disconnect and reconnect? And then it continues working again?
[15:09] <BluesKaj> atdprhs_, what type of connection, ethernet or wifi?
[15:10] <atdprhs_> @BluesKaj wifi
[15:13] <Walex> atdprhs_: wireless is often like that, and most WiFi drivers are a bit buggy; sometimes you even have to unload and reload the driver module to properly reset things.
[15:13] <BluesKaj> atdprhs_, run,  lspci | grep -i net
[15:16] <BluesKaj> atdprhs_, and find the wireless network and it's hardware,. Perhaps the driver needs upgrading, especially if it's a braodcom like mine
[15:16] <BluesKaj> broadcom even
[15:18] <genii> Some adapters also run off the USB bus even though they are internal, they stall when USB goes into powersave mode
[15:20] <atdprhs_> 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7265 (rev 59)
[15:21] <atdprhs_> the packets are dropped again
[15:22] <BluesKaj> atdprhs_, kubuntu 16.04?
[15:23] <BluesKaj> regular home network router or on the job on a WAN?
[15:26] <atdprhs_> I'm using driver manager to update check
[15:26] <atdprhs_> in kubuntu
[15:26] <Smurphy> atdprhs_: Some times it's a timeout function if nothjing goes over the wire.
[15:26] <atdprhs_> Sorry guys, I got dropped again
[15:26] <Smurphy> Try doing a: mtr -i 5 <gatewayIP>
[15:26] <Smurphy> Works for me.
[15:27] <BluesKaj> bully for you
[15:27] <Smurphy> it sends a ping to your gateway every 5secs. Keeps the connection up here.
[15:27] <atdprhs_> Smurphy, I always check router's page when I get dropped cuz it doesn't make sense, and I can't even access the routers page, this only happens in Kubuntu BTW, in windows, it's fine... :(
[15:28] <Smurphy> Delete the complete connection/configuration, and create a new one (In case you have upgraded your machine from a previous release).
[15:28] <atdprhs_> I did
[15:28] <atdprhs_> this is also new installation when I gave up
[15:29] <atdprhs_> of the entire os
[15:29] <atdprhs_> Does driver manager takes a while for you?
[15:30] <Smurphy> No. Does not work here. check google to use the CLI version of the driver manager.
[15:30] <Smurphy> have to go. Be back later (Kid -> music lessons).
[15:31] <atdprhs_> jockey-text --list?
[15:31] <atdprhs_> Thanks Smurphy
[15:31] <atdprhs_> Enjoy your day :)
[15:37] <atdprhs_> BluesKaj, I'm sorry, but I'm too tired, I'll go to sleep for now, I'll come back tomorrow
[15:37] <atdprhs_> thanks for your help too :-)
[15:37] <atdprhs_> Goodnight everyone
[15:40] <BluesKaj> heh, just when I found something that might help him
[15:49] <genii> BluesKaj: There's always tomorrow :)
[15:52] <BluesKaj> genii, I'll probly forget ..already have oo many bookmarks
[15:52] <BluesKaj> too many
[15:52] <rattking> wow removing the neon repo and packages and replacing them with regular kubuntu packages was a realy PITA :)
[15:52] <genii> I understand entirely
[15:52] <rattking> now I can see why they recommend you not do that :)
[15:52] <BluesKaj> rattking, neon is a different animal
[15:53] <acheronuk> rattking: it's not too much bother with a bit of apt pinning
[15:53] <rattking> ah I need to read up on that
[16:51] <cablop> hello
[17:08] <florian_> slt
[17:09] <florian_> qq peut m'aider, j'utillise une machine virtuel (oracle virtual box) et je n'ai pas le sons, comment on l'active ?
[17:13] <genii> !fr
[17:13] <genii> ah, they left already
[17:13] <marco-parillo> In my case, I first check my host for sounds; then go to the VM.
[17:14] <marco-parillo> For Oracle Virtual Box, perhaps the guest additions can help.
[17:21] <florian_> salut
[17:26] <cablop> any recommended dock for KDE?
[18:05] <krabbeltier> hi
[18:13] <krabbeltier> ist das ne stille hier :)
[19:56] <Fritigern> I can't seem to find a resource on the web to tell me what is going to change, be added, be fixed, etc. in Kubuntu yakkety, all i seems to come across is chatter about Ubuntu and Unity 8 or the lack thereof
[20:00] <Fritigern> And yeah, i did find https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/Beta2/Kubuntu but seriously, that does not tell me anything at all
[20:20] <viewer|70587> yo
[20:38] <valorie> Fritigern: we need to fix that page indeed
[20:38] <valorie> I just got wiki editing rights, and will fix
[20:38]  * Fritigern flyhugs valorie
[20:51] <viewer|70587> Can I just say, I'm at the pre-install phase of getting Kubuntu onto a netbook with EUFI and .... my touchpad is working already.
[20:52] <viewer|70587> I've tried Arch, Ubuntu 14.1, Ubuntu 16.4, Fedora, Mint, Debian, Crunchbang and many others and none of them had native support for my Sentelic touchpad
[20:53] <viewer|70587> I run Kubuntu and it's already fucking working, oh my days I am so happy. I'm not moving distros.
[20:59] <valorie> viewer|70587: good to hear
[20:59] <valorie> without the non-friendly-to-families language, please
[21:05] <viewer|70587> My apologies!
[21:06] <viewer|70587> Is the Kubuntu community active then?
[21:06] <viewer|70587> I'm looking to get quite involved with Linux now that I've had a horrible experience with Windows
[21:07] <genii> viewer|70587: A small but dedicated group :)
[21:10] <valorie> and fun!
[21:10] <valorie> many of us met up in Berlin earlier in the month to attend Akademy /Qtcon and have some planning meets, eat together, etc.
[21:11] <valorie> exhausting and fun!
[21:11] <viewer|70587> That sounds ace! :)
[21:11] <valorie> much beer was had, much walking around Berlin together, and lots of laughs, hugs, smiles
[21:11] <valorie> yep, we invite everybody
[21:11] <viewer|70587> What a community :O
[21:11] <valorie> and it's awesome
[21:12] <viewer|70587> I got the opposite from the Ubuntu forums :')
[21:17] <valorie> UDS was a big loss
[21:17] <valorie> face to face is really important, IMO
[21:17] <valorie> even if it involves flying across a continent and a large ocean
[21:19] <viewer|70587> Maybe one day I'll get that far lol
[21:20] <viewer|70587> Is there a page to view the Kubuntu shortcut basics? And a guide for absolute-linux newbies?
[21:21] <valorie> viewer|70587: alt+space and type shortcut
[21:22] <valorie> lots of them are built-in
[21:22] <valorie> and you can change some of those and add your own as well
[21:22] <valorie> we've got our docs for Kubuntu
[21:23] <viewer|70587> reading them now :)
 who said docs!!!
[21:23] <viewer|70587> just deleted that little box on my desktop -_-
[21:23] <ahoneybun> http://docs.kubuntu.org/ ?
[21:23] <viewer|70587> *sigh* trial and error with a new OS begins now lol
[21:24] <ahoneybun> always learning new things though ;)
[21:25] <ahoneybun> valorie: http://usefoss.com/index.php/2016/09/15/plasma-features-the-endless-search-pt-2/ ;)
[21:25] <ahoneybun> viewer|70587: as well ^ features everywhere
[21:25] <valorie> nice link, ahoneybun
[21:26] <viewer|70587> true true
[21:26] <viewer|70587> not a cluw how to get it back though
[21:26] <viewer|70587> clue*
[21:27] <valorie> the little box on your desktop?
[21:27]  * valorie has no little boxes except
[21:27] <valorie> Amazon boxes
[21:27] <viewer|70587> yeah that I could see the root folder in
[21:28] <viewer|70587> a widget-like transparent box (fresh install)
[21:28] <valorie> well, right-click is your friend, just remember that
[21:28] <valorie> and alt+space
[21:28] <viewer|70587> alt space does nothing
[21:29] <andrew_> why is my alt+tab not working?
[21:29] <valorie> alt+space brings up "krunner"
[21:29] <valorie> at the top of your screen
[21:29] <valorie> type in that to get all kinds of goodies
[21:30] <valorie> including a simple calculator
[21:32] <viewer|70587> No really Valrie, alt+space doesnt do anything :')
[21:38] <valorie> does alt+f2 do it for you?
[21:38] <valorie> odd that that doesn't work
[21:39] <valorie> it's been standard for two cycles now
[21:39] <valorie> over a year
[21:41] <viewer|70587> yeah alt+f2 works
[21:56] <viewer|70587> how do I change that?
[21:56] <viewer|70587> Jut upgrading from 14 to 16
[22:05] <valorie> oh, you aren't on 16.04 yet?
[22:05] <valorie> ok
[22:05] <viewer|70587> no is that maybe why? :')
[22:05] <valorie> yup
[22:05] <valorie> alt+f2 continues to work
[22:08] <viewer|70587> but alt+space is the main?
[22:08] <viewer|70587> because my netbooks alt+f2 turns off the wifi lol
[22:09] <valorie> you can adjust the shortcuts
[22:09] <valorie> viewer|70587: that would be very annoying!
[22:09] <viewer|70587> it is :')
[22:10] <viewer|70587> how'd I do that then? :)
[22:12] <valorie> you can always use the menus at the K
[22:12] <valorie> rather than krunner
[22:12] <valorie> to find what you need in systemsettings, etc.
[22:12] <viewer|70587> I quite like krunner tbf :')
[22:13] <valorie> yes, I use it as often as possible
[22:13] <viewer|70587> I'm used to the ctrl+alt+T for terminal though
[22:14] <valorie> oh, I use yakuake
[22:14] <valorie> f12 pops it down, or back up
[22:14] <valorie> !info yakuake
[22:14] <valorie> invaluable
[22:14] <viewer|70587> That sounds ideal
[22:15] <viewer|70587> Krunner + Yakuake sounds like a neat combo
[22:15] <valorie> for my usecases, yes
[22:15] <valorie> you can have multiple tabs, etc
[22:15] <viewer|70587> What's this plasma thing I've been reading about? And what do you use Kbuntu for Val?
[22:16] <ahoneybun> it's your desktop
[22:16] <valorie> I use kubuntu for everything
[22:16] <valorie> I've not booted up windows for years
[22:16] <valorie> kept it for testing, but have not had time
[22:17] <viewer|70587> I just want to move away from that rubbish lol
[22:17] <viewer|70587> What do you do the most? You a developer?
[22:17] <valorie> I moved from windows to linux in 2001 and have not looked back
[22:18] <valorie> I work with the community, and have done some docs
[22:18] <valorie> testing
[22:18] <viewer|70587> I'm trying to learn linux to move furher into development. Currently just a front end type of guy but I'm thinking of moving onto OOP but getting my head around all this new stuff is overwhelming :'(
[22:18] <valorie> much of my work is "upstream" in KDE, running student programs and working in the Community Working Group
[22:19] <viewer|70587> that's cool :)
[22:19] <valorie> from what I hear, the best way to learn is to find a project that really inspires you, and start contributing
[22:20] <viewer|70587> that's true :)
[22:20] <valorie> the KDE community is so huge, there is lots to do
[22:20] <viewer|70587> I'm just more concerned about using linux than programming lol
[22:20] <valorie> and if you like packaging, Kubuntu is a very friendly place to learn
[22:21] <valorie> eh, if you know basic cp/m or windows cli stuff, it's easy
[22:21] <viewer|70587> huge windows user, down to sysadmin stuff :')
[22:21] <valorie> at least the basics
[22:22] <valorie> from what I know, linux sysadmins have better tools available, from monitoring to control
[22:23] <viewer|70587> If you have any basic-basic-for-super-dumb-dummies guides for kubuntu I'm down with that :')
[22:24] <valorie> our docs will get you going, viewer|70587
[22:24] <viewer|70587> reading them still :)
[22:24] <valorie> http://docs.kubuntu.org/
[22:24] <viewer|70587> thanks ^_^
[22:24] <valorie> we have links to other stuff
[22:26] <viewer|70587> In the docs or in general?
[22:28] <valorie> in the docs
[22:28] <valorie> it all depends on what you are interested in learning, viewer|70587
[22:28] <viewer|70587> Alrighty then. Guess the docs are the bible of kubuntu?
[22:28] <valorie> right
[22:29] <valorie> if you find errors, we welcome your fixes
[22:29] <viewer|70587> Basically I'm interested in making my desktop nice and pretty. e.g hardware monitors and networking monitoring, irc chats, and an IDE for C#
[22:29] <viewer|70587> A VPN like hotspot shield :')
[22:30] <valorie> irc: konversation is my choice
[22:30] <valorie> not sure whether kdevelop or Qt Creator do C#
[22:31] <valorie> network monitoring -- there is a widget you can access through the "hamburger" menu > add widgets
[22:31] <valorie> not sure if it is complete enough for your needs though
[22:31] <valorie> it's rather basic
[22:32] <valorie> control + escape has a monitor
[22:32] <valorie> however it isn't temperatures and such
[22:32] <valorie> I think many people use conkey or so
[22:32] <valorie> !info conkey
[22:32] <valorie> !info conky
[22:35] <valorie> viewer|70587: btw more stuff at https://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu
[22:35] <valorie> don't overwhelm yourself however
[22:37] <viewer|70587> I remember using conky with crunchbang a few years ago
[22:37] <viewer|70587> Is that on Kubuntu or will I have to install the package?
[22:37] <acheronuk> conky https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?70795-conky-thread
[22:37] <viewer|70587> thankyou :)
[22:38] <valorie> it's not our software, so yes, you have to install it
[22:38] <acheronuk> mine the other day: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?70795-conky-thread&p=392754&viewfull=1#post392754
[22:38] <valorie> oh that would drive me crazy
[22:38] <valorie> but my son would love it
[22:39] <valorie> lol
[22:39] <valorie> yours looks nice, acheronuk
[22:39] <valorie> I don't like stuff jumping about
[22:39] <viewer|70587> I do  like that ;o
[22:41] <viewer|70587> will you share the config archeron?
[22:41] <acheronuk> it's just a slight adaption of the one posted by the original poster at the start of that thread.
[22:42] <acheronuk> but however... https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?70795-conky-thread&p=392773&viewfull=1#post392773
[22:44] <viewer|70587> daft question but what does a swap drive do and do I have one if I made my kubuntu installation use the full drive?
[22:44] <valorie> swap uses your HD if needed, rather than on-board memory
[22:44] <valorie> !swap