=== kcasper_ is now known as kc === hex is now known as Guest81051 === Guest81051 is now known as hexabraid [03:08] how can i disable baloo? === TheMaster is now known as Unit193 [04:29] Hello!! I need help plz [04:30] Any can help me? [04:33] u.u [04:33] Michael20552: with what? [04:33] this is a help channel, but we can't read your mind [04:33] I want updagre plasma to version 5.7 [04:34] i've 5.6.5 [04:34] (my english is too bad, sorry) [04:35] I try with "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports" and "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade -y" and nothing... [04:35] nothing? [04:36] i'm not sure what you mean [04:36] Nothing happens [04:36] ^ [04:36] put your readout in a pastebin [04:36] !paste [04:36] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.kde.org | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [04:37] I'm not sure what version is in backports [04:37] only want upgrade to last version of kde Plasma =/ [04:38] we had a problem with Ubuntu not providing a too-old version of Qt [04:38] I can't recall what got into backports [04:39] so.. [04:39] I have plasma 5.7.2 in Yakkety [04:40] the beta that will be published tomorrow morning [04:41] I'l be able to install this version? [04:41] *will [04:41] we have only a few people working [04:41] we're doing the best we can [04:42] certainly [04:42] we've been calling for testers..... [04:42] I've been running it for months [04:43] But I've seen many people who have been able to install in ubuntu plasma kde 5.7, right? [04:43] in the next version, yes [04:44] So these people have another O.S? Not ubuntu? [04:45] ? I'm running Kubuntu 16.10, as I said [04:45] Hi sorry to disturb, I have a question that I belive has a quick answer, when Im using Kubuntu 16.04 live I can properly set up my 3 screens , but after installing it I can't change anything, whats the first thing I should do? [04:46] user|43177: after installing what? [04:46] Oh sorry, i've Ubuntu 16.04 lts [04:46] Or how can I copy the live cd xorg config (I know its now autodetected and no longer uses the etc file) [04:50] user|43177: are you saying that Ubuntu 16.04 worked with with 3 screens, but Kubuntu 16.04 you can't? [04:51] there was a problem for awhile in Qt, if so [04:51] fixed in the latest [04:52] which unfortunately is not in 16.04 [04:53] before installing Kubuntu 16.04 i tested it on a live USB [04:53] on that live USB my 3 monitors were properly detected [04:53] after making a full install, only 1 of my screen is detected and I cant change the configuration [04:53] So I was asking if there is a way for me to copy the live USB cfg [04:54] or if I should dig deeper and pick another sollution? [04:54] the config comes from the liveUSB [05:05] system shut down I was teh one asking about the cfg [05:05] I lost any messages [05:05] xorg cfg [05:08] user|91555: [05:08] the config comes from the liveUSB [05:08] ajam? but the result is different === friti is now known as Fritigern === cpaelzer_ is now known as cpaelzer === Guest75707 is now known as Haudegen === Petilu|zZz is now known as Petilu [08:43] hay [08:44] Hello Shakyamuni [08:44] hello, Vorap [08:45] o/ [08:45] Is backport ppa stable releases === pavlushka is now known as Guest6734 [08:51] hi, after waking up from suspend to ram i sometimes only get a black screen with a mouse cursor in it. how can i investigate what causes it? === Guest6734 is now known as pavlushka [08:52] Deno: Backports contains newer releases from KDE, KDE considers them stable. [08:52] Ok. [08:52] muixirt: Sounds like plasmashell dying, can you still open a konsole? [08:55] muixirt: You can change to another tty using ctrl + alt + f1 [08:57] Vorap, lordievader: yes [08:57] muixirt: Find the process id of plasmashell, kill it and run in krunner (alt + f2) 'kstart plasmashell'. [08:58] the only thing i do right now is rebooting, ps tells me that a *lot* of kworker threads are spinned up [08:59] lordievader: will try next time it happend, thanks === mib is now known as Guest71259 === novakg is now known as gyuri [10:32] hi guys! can anyone tell me why this error messages appeared to me after runing source ~/.bashrc? [10:33] the messages are: syntax error near unexpected token `then' and `if [ -z "$debian_chroot" ] && [ -r /etc/debian_chroot ]; then' [10:34] i've made a separate file named .bash_aliases. after running source ~/.bashrc the mentioned errors occured [10:34] nothing was modified in the .bashrc file [10:35] I have a feeling this has something to do with the dot [10:35] But I am not sure [10:35] I can't look further into this right now [10:35] Sorry [11:02] Does anyone know a window manager / de that has proper multi gpu support, Ive used a lot of de/wms throughout the years but cant find any that just works in this setup [11:37] i'm running kubuntu14.04 with lxde, and i wanna use a printer over the network (hosted by samba/cups) but i don't have any printer settings anywhere in the menu [11:37] i'm not even sure if this is a kubuntu issue or lxde issue or what [12:09] YuxKukMo: Could you pastebin your full bashrc? [12:10] lordie:yes [12:14] !paste [12:14] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.kde.org | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [12:14] https://paste.kde.org/pxqamtvxl [12:14] lordie: check the paste link [12:16] it's nothing fancy in the file. just the default file [12:17] YuxKukMo: Do you still have the error if you replace the dot in line 91 with 'source'? [12:18] let me check [12:20] yes [12:21] Hmm [12:22] What happens if you run 'bash ~/.bashrc'? [12:22] line 6: return: can only `return' from a function or sourced script [12:23] Hey folks [12:25] YuxKukMo: Could you comment line 24 and try again? [12:25] My bash doesn't complain after commenting that line. [12:28] YES [12:29] Was that the culprit? [12:32] nope [12:33] i will delete .bashrc file and put a new .bashrc file [12:34] Hmm, for my bash the file is okay. [12:34] can you paste yours? [12:35] Err [12:35] I don't use bash... Just occured to me that I don't even have a bashrc. [12:35] ok [12:36] YuxKukMo: There should be a system bashrc in /etc/bash/bashrc [12:38] indeed [12:39] lordievader, that file doesn't exist here , but I do have a ~/.bashrc file [12:40] my bashrc has [12:40] # set variable identifying the chroot you work in (used in the prompt below) [12:40] if [ -z "$debian_chroot" ] && [ -r /etc/debian_chroot ]; then [12:40] debian_chroot=$(cat /etc/debian_chroot) [12:40] fi [12:40] BluesKaj: Could you pastebin yours for YuxKukMo ? [12:40] sure [12:41] hmmm, strange... i just tested on another machine and created a file named .bash_aliases entered alias h='history' then run source ~/.bashrc and worked [12:41] didnt modified anything in .bashrc [12:42] could be a problem with the .bash_aliases [12:42] ?? [12:42] actually I was wrong [12:42] YuxKukMo, http://pastebin.ca/3723111 [12:42] mine says..... [12:42] if [ -z "${debian_chroot:-}" ] && [ -r /etc/debian_chroot ]; then [12:43] blueskaj: it's identical with what i have on the other machine [12:43] it's the default file [12:45] YuxKukMo, ~/.bash_aliases links to ~/. bashrc ...I use ~/.bash_alaises for all my aliased cli commands [12:45] correct. [12:46] yeah ~/.bashrc is default [12:46] i just copied what you put on pastebin, recreatded the .bashrc file and .bash_aliases and run source command and now it's working [12:46] so strange [12:47] i suspect that something was wrong in the .bash_aliases file [12:47] apparently it's good practice to use bash_aliases instead of editing/adding aliases to bashrc [12:49] but this i what i did but for some weird reason i received those errord [12:49] *errors [12:51] lordie, blueskaj: thank you [12:51] YuxKukMo, np [12:53] YuxKukMo: No problem. [12:55] :)))) [13:12] well, it's working despite the fact the chroot error appeared again:))) === sithlord48_ is now known as sithlord48 === Na3iL is now known as nzoueidi [14:52] Hi, have anyone came accross an issue with wireless, where after a while of being connected, it just stops sending/receiving, kinda like freezing but you can still disconnect and reconnect? And then it continues working again? === lee is now known as Cueball [15:09] atdprhs_, what type of connection, ethernet or wifi? [15:10] @BluesKaj wifi [15:13] atdprhs_: wireless is often like that, and most WiFi drivers are a bit buggy; sometimes you even have to unload and reload the driver module to properly reset things. [15:13] atdprhs_, run, lspci | grep -i net [15:16] atdprhs_, and find the wireless network and it's hardware,. Perhaps the driver needs upgrading, especially if it's a braodcom like mine [15:16] broadcom even [15:18] Some adapters also run off the USB bus even though they are internal, they stall when USB goes into powersave mode [15:20] 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7265 (rev 59) [15:21] the packets are dropped again [15:22] atdprhs_, kubuntu 16.04? [15:23] regular home network router or on the job on a WAN? [15:26] I'm using driver manager to update check [15:26] in kubuntu [15:26] atdprhs_: Some times it's a timeout function if nothjing goes over the wire. [15:26] Sorry guys, I got dropped again [15:26] Try doing a: mtr -i 5 [15:26] Works for me. [15:27] bully for you [15:27] it sends a ping to your gateway every 5secs. Keeps the connection up here. [15:27] Smurphy, I always check router's page when I get dropped cuz it doesn't make sense, and I can't even access the routers page, this only happens in Kubuntu BTW, in windows, it's fine... :( [15:28] Delete the complete connection/configuration, and create a new one (In case you have upgraded your machine from a previous release). [15:28] I did [15:28] this is also new installation when I gave up [15:29] of the entire os [15:29] Does driver manager takes a while for you? [15:30] No. Does not work here. check google to use the CLI version of the driver manager. [15:30] have to go. Be back later (Kid -> music lessons). [15:31] jockey-text --list? [15:31] Thanks Smurphy [15:31] Enjoy your day :) === tboiko is now known as tbbt [15:37] BluesKaj, I'm sorry, but I'm too tired, I'll go to sleep for now, I'll come back tomorrow [15:37] thanks for your help too :-) [15:37] Goodnight everyone [15:40] heh, just when I found something that might help him [15:49] BluesKaj: There's always tomorrow :) [15:52] genii, I'll probly forget ..already have oo many bookmarks [15:52] too many [15:52] wow removing the neon repo and packages and replacing them with regular kubuntu packages was a realy PITA :) [15:52] I understand entirely [15:52] now I can see why they recommend you not do that :) [15:52] rattking, neon is a different animal [15:53] rattking: it's not too much bother with a bit of apt pinning [15:53] ah I need to read up on that [16:51] hello [17:08] slt [17:09] qq peut m'aider, j'utillise une machine virtuel (oracle virtual box) et je n'ai pas le sons, comment on l'active ? [17:13] !fr [17:13] Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [17:13] ah, they left already [17:13] In my case, I first check my host for sounds; then go to the VM. [17:14] For Oracle Virtual Box, perhaps the guest additions can help. [17:21] salut [17:26] any recommended dock for KDE? === krabbeltier_ is now known as krabbeltier [18:05] hi [18:13] ist das ne stille hier :) === rohan_ is now known as rohan === neon is now known as Guest95060 [19:56] I can't seem to find a resource on the web to tell me what is going to change, be added, be fixed, etc. in Kubuntu yakkety, all i seems to come across is chatter about Ubuntu and Unity 8 or the lack thereof [20:00] And yeah, i did find https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/Beta2/Kubuntu but seriously, that does not tell me anything at all [20:20] yo [20:38] Fritigern: we need to fix that page indeed [20:38] I just got wiki editing rights, and will fix [20:38] * Fritigern flyhugs valorie === TheRedQueen is now known as Drone` [20:51] Can I just say, I'm at the pre-install phase of getting Kubuntu onto a netbook with EUFI and .... my touchpad is working already. [20:52] I've tried Arch, Ubuntu 14.1, Ubuntu 16.4, Fedora, Mint, Debian, Crunchbang and many others and none of them had native support for my Sentelic touchpad [20:53] I run Kubuntu and it's already fucking working, oh my days I am so happy. I'm not moving distros. [20:59] viewer|70587: good to hear [20:59] without the non-friendly-to-families language, please [21:05] My apologies! [21:06] Is the Kubuntu community active then? [21:06] I'm looking to get quite involved with Linux now that I've had a horrible experience with Windows [21:07] viewer|70587: A small but dedicated group :) [21:10] and fun! [21:10] many of us met up in Berlin earlier in the month to attend Akademy /Qtcon and have some planning meets, eat together, etc. [21:11] exhausting and fun! [21:11] That sounds ace! :) [21:11] much beer was had, much walking around Berlin together, and lots of laughs, hugs, smiles [21:11] yep, we invite everybody [21:11] What a community :O [21:11] and it's awesome [21:12] I got the opposite from the Ubuntu forums :') [21:17] UDS was a big loss [21:17] face to face is really important, IMO [21:17] even if it involves flying across a continent and a large ocean [21:19] Maybe one day I'll get that far lol [21:20] Is there a page to view the Kubuntu shortcut basics? And a guide for absolute-linux newbies? === acheronuk is now known as acheron_goneforb === acheron_goneforb is now known as acheronuk [21:21] viewer|70587: alt+space and type shortcut [21:22] lots of them are built-in [21:22] and you can change some of those and add your own as well [21:22] we've got our docs for Kubuntu [21:23] reading them now :) [21:23] who said docs!!! [21:23] just deleted that little box on my desktop -_- [21:23] http://docs.kubuntu.org/ ? [21:23] *sigh* trial and error with a new OS begins now lol [21:24] always learning new things though ;) [21:25] valorie: http://usefoss.com/index.php/2016/09/15/plasma-features-the-endless-search-pt-2/ ;) [21:25] viewer|70587: as well ^ features everywhere [21:25] nice link, ahoneybun [21:26] true true [21:26] not a cluw how to get it back though [21:26] clue* [21:27] the little box on your desktop? [21:27] * valorie has no little boxes except [21:27] Amazon boxes [21:27] yeah that I could see the root folder in [21:28] a widget-like transparent box (fresh install) [21:28] well, right-click is your friend, just remember that [21:28] and alt+space [21:28] alt space does nothing [21:29] why is my alt+tab not working? [21:29] MarcelCarvalho was removed by: MarcelCarvalho [21:29] alt+space brings up "krunner" [21:29] at the top of your screen [21:29] type in that to get all kinds of goodies [21:30] including a simple calculator [21:32] No really Valrie, alt+space doesnt do anything :') [21:38] does alt+f2 do it for you? [21:38] odd that that doesn't work [21:39] it's been standard for two cycles now [21:39] over a year [21:41] yeah alt+f2 works [21:56] how do I change that? [21:56] Jut upgrading from 14 to 16 [22:05] oh, you aren't on 16.04 yet? [22:05] ok [22:05] no is that maybe why? :') [22:05] yup [22:05] alt+f2 continues to work [22:08] but alt+space is the main? [22:08] because my netbooks alt+f2 turns off the wifi lol [22:09] you can adjust the shortcuts [22:09] viewer|70587: that would be very annoying! [22:09] it is :') [22:10] how'd I do that then? :) [22:12] you can always use the menus at the K [22:12] rather than krunner [22:12] to find what you need in systemsettings, etc. [22:12] I quite like krunner tbf :') [22:13] yes, I use it as often as possible [22:13] I'm used to the ctrl+alt+T for terminal though [22:14] oh, I use yakuake [22:14] f12 pops it down, or back up [22:14] !info yakuake [22:14] yakuake (source: yakuake): Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.9.9-3 (xenial), package size 346 kB, installed size 1782 kB [22:14] invaluable [22:14] That sounds ideal [22:15] Krunner + Yakuake sounds like a neat combo [22:15] for my usecases, yes [22:15] you can have multiple tabs, etc [22:15] What's this plasma thing I've been reading about? And what do you use Kbuntu for Val? [22:16] it's your desktop [22:16] I use kubuntu for everything [22:16] I've not booted up windows for years [22:16] kept it for testing, but have not had time [22:17] I just want to move away from that rubbish lol [22:17] What do you do the most? You a developer? [22:17] I moved from windows to linux in 2001 and have not looked back [22:18] I work with the community, and have done some docs [22:18] testing [22:18] I'm trying to learn linux to move furher into development. Currently just a front end type of guy but I'm thinking of moving onto OOP but getting my head around all this new stuff is overwhelming :'( [22:18] much of my work is "upstream" in KDE, running student programs and working in the Community Working Group [22:19] that's cool :) [22:19] from what I hear, the best way to learn is to find a project that really inspires you, and start contributing [22:20] that's true :) [22:20] the KDE community is so huge, there is lots to do [22:20] I'm just more concerned about using linux than programming lol [22:20] and if you like packaging, Kubuntu is a very friendly place to learn [22:21] eh, if you know basic cp/m or windows cli stuff, it's easy [22:21] huge windows user, down to sysadmin stuff :') [22:21] at least the basics [22:22] from what I know, linux sysadmins have better tools available, from monitoring to control [22:23] If you have any basic-basic-for-super-dumb-dummies guides for kubuntu I'm down with that :') [22:24] our docs will get you going, viewer|70587 [22:24] reading them still :) [22:24] http://docs.kubuntu.org/ [22:24] thanks ^_^ [22:24] we have links to other stuff [22:26] In the docs or in general? [22:28] in the docs [22:28] it all depends on what you are interested in learning, viewer|70587 [22:28] Alrighty then. Guess the docs are the bible of kubuntu? [22:28] right [22:29] if you find errors, we welcome your fixes [22:29] Basically I'm interested in making my desktop nice and pretty. e.g hardware monitors and networking monitoring, irc chats, and an IDE for C# [22:29] A VPN like hotspot shield :') [22:30] irc: konversation is my choice [22:30] not sure whether kdevelop or Qt Creator do C# [22:31] network monitoring -- there is a widget you can access through the "hamburger" menu > add widgets [22:31] not sure if it is complete enough for your needs though [22:31] it's rather basic [22:32] control + escape has a monitor [22:32] however it isn't temperatures and such [22:32] I think many people use conkey or so [22:32] !info conkey [22:32] Package conkey does not exist in xenial [22:32] !info conky [22:32] conky (source: conky): highly configurable system monitor (transitional package). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.10.1-3 (xenial), package size 3 kB, installed size 26 kB [22:35] viewer|70587: btw more stuff at https://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu [22:35] don't overwhelm yourself however [22:37] I remember using conky with crunchbang a few years ago [22:37] Is that on Kubuntu or will I have to install the package? [22:37] conky https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?70795-conky-thread [22:37] thankyou :) [22:38] it's not our software, so yes, you have to install it [22:38] mine the other day: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?70795-conky-thread&p=392754&viewfull=1#post392754 [22:38] oh that would drive me crazy [22:38] but my son would love it [22:39] lol [22:39] yours looks nice, acheronuk [22:39] I don't like stuff jumping about [22:39] I do like that ;o [22:41] will you share the config archeron? [22:41] it's just a slight adaption of the one posted by the original poster at the start of that thread. [22:42] but however... https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?70795-conky-thread&p=392773&viewfull=1#post392773 === nickgeoca is now known as linman [22:44] daft question but what does a swap drive do and do I have one if I made my kubuntu installation use the full drive? [22:44] swap uses your HD if needed, rather than on-board memory [22:44] !swap [22:44] swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info