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torusJKLIs it better to flash the downloaded delta OTA files downloaded on my phone than the full files that I can download on my computer?04:38
torusJKLOr would flashing of either result to the same?04:38
Stanley00torusJKL: I don't think you can flash delta images?04:47
torusJKLStanley00: I mean upgrade an existing OTA-12 with the delta files to the new OTA-1304:48
Stanley00torusJKL: ah, I see, in case you didn't modify system partition, I would recommend install via OTA (it's smaller and faster)04:49
torusJKLStanley00: other than been faster is there a difference if I would flash the full OTA download?04:50
Stanley00torusJKL: it should be the same, AFAIK04:52
torusJKLStanley00: thanks. Do you might to know why after the OTA upgrade my system settings screen stays completely white? No text, no icons.04:54
Stanley00torusJKL: did you ever re-mount / with write permission?04:55
torusJKLStanley00: I did before flashing in the twrp recovery.04:57
Stanley00torusJKL: oops, I forgot to ask. what is your phone model? nexus 4?04:58
torusJKLStaley00: I'm using a Meizu Pro5 64GB Chinese model. I installed twrp and flashed OTA-12. I don't have any problems on OTA-12 and am now trying to upgrade to OTA-13.05:00
torusJKLStanley00: sorry wrote your nick wrong.05:00
Stanley00torusJKL: np :)05:00
Stanley00torusJKL: hmm, I think ubuntu touch need its recovery to install OTA, in this case, you have change its recovery with twrp, right?05:01
Stanley00torusJKL: if you want to use twrp, I think you have to flash full image then.05:02
torusJKL_Stanley00: I got 1 error while upgrading: tar: can't remove old file system/usr/share/doc/libtelepathy-qt5-0: Is a directory05:03
Stanley00torusJKL_: I think you should try with full image. I got to go now.05:04
torusJKL_Stanley00: I'll try it. Thanks for your time.05:05
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RLShiftyDoggithey guys im trying to port ubuntu touch and im running into a problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/23245521/05:07
RLShiftyDoggitive tried cloning CM's dev tree and all that so what should i do05:09
torusJKLRLShiftyDoggit: I'm absolutely new to this. Could it be that the file you are looking for has a different name? What are you trying to find in build/core/product_config.mk:234 ?05:15
Muhriddinhi there , can i install ubuntu touch on lg G405:43
Muhriddin /UNIGNORE aavit05:44
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torusJKLMuhriddin: Here is a list with the supported devices: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices05:45
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Mirvmarcustomlinson: hi! could you please test bug #1618590 with the alternative third patch from https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2015 (yakkety amd64 should be available now already)? it would be a better fix than the one in other silo.08:17
ubot5bug 1618590 in qtbase-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "scoperunner crashed with SIGSEGV in QObject::disconnect()" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161859008:17
ccMirv: do you know mrvi?08:18
marcustomlinsonMirv: amd64 still building for xenial08:19
marcustomlinsonI'm on xenial+overlay08:19
marcustomlinsonI'll try it out when it's ready08:19
Mirvcc: no :)08:19
Mirvmarcustomlinson: oh, ok, yes let's wait for that (which might take some time since there was a flaky test so it's rebuilding)08:19
Mirvprobably 2h still before the PPA offers it for upgrade08:20
matv1gd morning. I have been having download speeds on my BqM10 slow down to an absolute crawl lately08:27
matv1I am on rc-proposed. But i have the same channel run on my N4 which flies likethe wind08:28
matv1I have been doing speedtests all morning but it looks like the Bq tablet is unique in having this issue08:29
matv1what can I do to investigate deeper?08:30
matv1oh fwiw only download speed is bad. upload is as good as on any other device. Ut or other08:32
popeyhow are you testing?08:34
matv1popey a reliable online speedtest site. on the same wifi network. Even assuring i am always using the same ap.08:35
popeyI would test using wget from another machine on the lan08:35
matv1as said on both n4, bqm10 and a windows laptop08:35
matv1popey I will try that too08:36
Mirvmaybe running ping 8.8.8.8 in terminal for a while to see if packets are being dropped08:48
popeymatv1: I can do some testing here too, I have numerous devices, and can compare like with like on them to see if my m10 is as bad as yours.09:01
matv1popey hang on I am momentarily plagued by actual work :) will be back on this in 20 mins hopefully09:05
popeymatv1: np, I will do some tests and let you know what I find09:06
matv1popey thnks09:06
matv1popey Mirv back09:35
matv1Mirv ping doesnt drop any packages and seems to return fine09:37
popeygonna test mine once I get it on the wifi :)09:38
matv1popey wget gives me the same result. extremely slow on the M10, blazing fast on the N409:38
matv1popey much appreciated. Anything else I can do, that you can think of ?09:39
NirgalHi there. Does anyone know a way to record a video while telephoning? "Camera" application goes to pause as soon as you put another scope on...09:39
popeylemme test first09:40
matv1sure09:40
dufluAssuming it used to work you should bisect the problem with 'ubuntu-device-flash --revision=N ...'09:40
dufluAlthough that's only really useful on an unstable channel, not stable09:40
popeymatv1: 2.4ghz wifi or 5ghz?09:41
torusJKLHi. When I format system and flash a fresh OTA-13 on my Pro 5 (64GB) it works well.09:42
torusJKLBut when I leave OTA-12 and flash OTA-13 over it I can't use the system settings naymore.09:42
torusJKLIt stays blank.09:42
popeyjgdx: ^ one for you maybe?09:42
torusJKLAny idea how I could get on the bottom of this?09:43
matv1popey not sure what I am on now. It should do both. How can I tell on ut09:43
torusJKLOr is there a way to restore my data (sms, apps etc.) from the OTA-12 to OTA-13?09:43
popeymatv1: ..09:49
popeybq 4.5 2.4GHz rc-proposed 3.5-4MB/s09:49
popeymeizu pro 5 5GHz rc-proposed ~5MB/s09:49
popeybq m10 5GHz rc-proposed ~5MB/s09:49
popeyI see no diff between bq m10 and my pro 5 or bq e4.509:50
popeythat's wgetting an iso from another machine on the lan09:50
matv1popey right that all looks good to me09:50
matv1is it possible to force the M10 to 2.4Ghz on your side ?09:51
matv1just to see09:51
popeyyes09:52
popeyone mo09:52
popeymatv1: 4.5MB/s on 2GHz09:53
matv1popey right good for you. not for me :)09:53
popeyheh, sorry09:53
popeyknock down any walls between you and the AP? :)09:53
matv1how can i tell if i am using 2.4 or 5 ghz ?09:53
matv1popey the AP is exactly over my head actualy09:54
popeyiwconfig09:54
popeyfirst line next to wlan0 will show it09:54
matv1oh that still works haha. I am always using desktop commands that dont work in the ut terminal that I am assuming nothing does :D09:55
popey:)09:55
matv1popey I am on 2.409:58
matv1How did you force the switch to 5 ?09:58
popeyi have two access points09:58
matv1oh09:59
popeyand the frequency is in the name09:59
matv1I see09:59
duflumatv1: Your modem/router should let you name the two frequencies differently09:59
dufluErm, two bands09:59
matv1duflu i am in an enterprise network10:00
popeyhow slow is slow?10:03
popeyand are you on rc-proposed or stable ota?10:03
matv1i am on rc-proposed on both the N4 and the M1010:05
matv1slow is about 10 k/s on the M1010:05
popeyouch10:05
matv1tops10:05
popeyI'm just on a domestic wifi, be interested to see if you get same on a cafe network or home wifi10:05
matv1popey yeah I was planning to do that. But that really is irrelevant as the N4 does the same with speeds approaching 4M/s10:07
matv1the same wget i mean10:07
popeywell, it could at least focus attention10:07
popeyif the m10 is fast on home wifi, then we need to see what's odd about your work wifi10:08
matv1popey hmmm loking closer I see some differences in iwconfig that are odd10:13
matv1I am in a school where I work. We use eduroam. The N4 shows an ESSID as ´eduroam´ but the M10 doesnt10:15
matv1allthough the wifi connection on both does show eduroam. And i have no other network in this area enabled10:16
matv1also the accesspoint id is the same for both10:17
matv1it looks to me like peap/mschapv2 isnt playing nice with lower level nw stack :/10:17
matv1i will try and lure an it person around into my problem on this side.10:19
matv1they might be able to see what the AP is actualy doing different when I connect10:19
matv1popey duflu Mirv thanks very much for thinking with me. TBC..10:20
popeynp10:23
jgdxtorusJKL, hey, still around?10:34
matv1popey I am back. seems I had flash of enlightenment10:34
* popey braces for impact10:35
matv1nothing to do with Ap´s :D10:35
matv1bluetooth was running on the M10. and wasnt on the N410:35
jgdxpopey, will take a look, thanks!10:35
matv1thats the entire cause10:35
popeythanks jgdx10:35
popeywaaaat10:35
popeyblewtooth causes wifi to slow?10:36
popeythat's pretty crappy10:36
matv1popey i suddenly remember that it was on here or else the mailing list that someone mentioned something similar10:36
matv1no bells are ringing on your side?10:36
matv1the only difference, it occured to me that I was running in desktop mode on the M10 so bt was running and active10:38
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popeylemme test10:39
matv1I am sure it was in the mail archive I saw this pass. I am diving in to find10:39
popeybluetooth is on here, but not associated with anything10:40
popeyooh, bingo10:41
popey33K/s10:41
popeywhile the bluetooth radio is trying to associate with the telly, wifi bandwidth drops through the floor10:41
popeyonce it stopped trying, wifi sped up again10:42
Mirvmarcustomlinson: xenial is now ready too10:46
marcustomlinsonMirv: cool, will give it a go10:46
torusJKLjgdx: I'm here.10:46
matv1popey haa!10:46
matv1popey now what ?10:47
popeyfile a bug10:47
matv1popey against what?10:49
popeyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image10:52
marcustomlinsonMirv: yeah, looks good. no crash10:52
matv1popey will do10:52
ogra_things10:53
popeymatv1: lemme know the bug number and I'll confirm10:54
matv1sure. this is indeed pretty awfull. gimme a minute10:54
matv1ogra_ also seems to have gone to another level of enlightenment :)10:55
Mirvmarcustomlinson: wow, that's excellent news! I'll (or you can) +1 the codereview of that commit and shall begin landing of this qtbase instead of the previous one.10:55
ogra_haha10:55
marcustomlinsonMirv: link to the commit?10:56
Mirvmarcustomlinson: https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/172173/10:57
marcustomlinsonMirv: oh I dont have my account set up to do that10:58
matv1popey did you by any chance check if your other devices have the same problem when pairing a bt device?10:58
matv1I didnt yet10:59
popeyno10:59
matv1ok i will check that first10:59
popeymatv1: doesn't appear to happen on the pro 511:00
Mirvmarcustomlinson: ok11:01
marcustomlinsonMirv: trying to fix it :/ My name is "Anonymous User" apparently11:01
Mirvmarcustomlinson: they've had the unified login for some time, but I forget what was the best top page to try enabling all of it :) https://bugreports.qt.io/ etc11:03
jameshmardy: ping: Could I pick your brain about an online-accounts issue I'm seeing?11:03
mardyjamesh: sure11:03
popeymatv1: yes, it happens (but not so pronounced I think) on the bq e4.511:03
popeymatv1: no, it is as pronounced, 30Kb/s11:04
jameshmardy: so I'm trying to get some code working with account-plugin-owncloud11:04
matv1popey also on the N4. it absolutely kills the wifi :O11:04
jameshmardy: I can see the account through online-accounts-api, but can't get the username or password11:04
mardyjamesh: can you start a dbus-monitor and see what happens while you try to authenticate?11:05
jameshmardy: I poked around manually using d-feet, and it looks like Authenticate() is returning keys "UserName" and "Secret", while the client library wants "Username" and "Password"11:06
mardyjamesh: ouch, lemme check11:06
marcustomlinsonMirv: ok, approved11:06
marcustomlinsonor at least acked11:07
jameshthe entire response from the Authenticate() method call was {'Secret': 'jamesh', 'UserName': 'james'}11:07
matv1popey oh wait. someone already found it before us11:07
matv1https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-network/+bug/159858411:07
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1598584 in frieza "wifi slows to a crawl when bluetooth is enabled" [Critical,Confirmed]11:07
jameshwhere those values were the user name and password I'd set11:07
mardyjamesh: the client is correct, can you please file a bug?11:07
jameshmardy: against account-plugins?11:08
mardyjamesh: no, against online-accounts-api11:08
matv1oh my in early july that was :O11:08
Mirvmarcustomlinson: thanks, I +1:d too.11:08
matv1popey last comment from pmcgowan says milestone:13 --> backlog11:09
matv1what does that mean?11:09
jgdxtorusJKL, I added a comment on your askubuntu q11:10
popeymatv1: means it's not fixed yet, and is in the queue with all the others11:10
* popey me-toos it11:10
* matv1 does the same11:11
torusJKLjgdx: cool, thanks.11:11
torusJKLjgdx: When should I take the log, just after opening the systems window?11:13
popeymatv1: maybe poke pmcgowan when he wakes in a couple of hours, and ask if it can be re-prioritised, it's his call11:13
matv1popey Isnt he irish?11:14
matv1popey nm11:14
jameshmardy: filed as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/online-accounts-api/+bug/1628473 -- do you need any more information?11:15
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1628473 in online-accounts-api (Ubuntu) "Unable to retrieve username/password for owncloud provider" [Undecided,New]11:15
matv1will do11:15
popeymatv1: he's US based11:16
matv1right11:17
matv1I was afraid that came across as an irish joke, which it wasnt11:18
popey:D11:18
popeyI'm sure Pat does a mean Oirish accent if pushed :)11:18
matv1popey I will do that too. see if he can do an entire ubuntu-on-air show like that11:19
popeyhaha11:19
jameshmardy: also, as a short term work-around, would it make sense to manually check for the UserName/Secret keys in PasswordReply::data()?11:20
jameshmardy: or should those keys just never exist?11:21
jgdxtorusJKL, that works11:22
mardyjamesh: the fix is to modify src/lib/OnlineAccountsDaemon/authenticator.cpp, and alter the dictionary in AuthenticatorPrivate::onAuthSessionResponse()11:38
mardyjamesh: I'll create a branch soon11:38
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jameshmardy: okay, cool.11:40
ogra_snaps !12:09
ogra_(in my applications scope on u8 desktop)12:09
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matv1ogra_ \o/12:31
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dobeyogra_: you're welcome12:59
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ogra_now Mir just needs to behave :)12:59
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jgdxtorusJKL, try again, the comment is blank besides "here's the log"13:29
jgdxtorusJKL, no reason why you shouldn't add it to the question body13:29
matv1pmcgowan ping13:34
torusJKLjgdx: ok I will change it.13:34
mterrytedg: for bug 1617067, still need a bug subscriber from our list ideally.  What about ~unity-api-team?  Or ~phablet-team?13:34
ubot5bug 1617067 in policykit-unity8 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] PolicyKit Unity8" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161706713:34
tedgmterry: I think I subscribed indicator-applet-developers13:34
mterrytedg: yeah but that's not a team on our list of package subscribers we watch: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-archive/ubuntu-archive-tools/trunk/view/head:/package-subscribers#L10713:35
mterrytedg: if you use indicator-applet-developers a lot, maybe we can add it?  But other indicators seem to use dx-packages for that purpose13:36
tedgmterry: Oh, I honestly don't know which teams are really used today :-/13:36
tedgmterry: We do use it for all our branches13:36
tedgmterry: Happy to use dx-packages (or whatever)13:36
mterrytedg: just for quickness, if you can sub something from the list, good.  If you prefer to use indicator-applet-devs in future, maybe submit an MP against ubuntu-archive-tools to add it13:37
* tedg is cross referencing the list if teams he can subscribe to those in the branch13:38
mterryheh13:39
jgdxtorusJKL, how do you run system settings? Have you modified your system in any way? Used apt e.g?13:40
popeyjgdx: note it's a 64GB device, so not one of the original devices, if that matters13:40
popeyAIUI13:41
torusJKLjgdx: I installed from the default app store and from Open Store.13:41
torusJKLCould the later have done changes in the system?13:42
tedgmterry: It looks like unity-api-team is the best match. Done.13:44
jgdxtorusJKL, is System Settings the only “blank” app?13:44
jgdxpopey, okay, interesting13:44
mterrytedg: oh nice, they might make sense for unity-greeter-session-broadcast too?13:44
tedgmterry: done13:45
mterrytedg: thx!13:45
dobeytedg, mterry: just make it unity-api-team yeah13:46
torusJKLjgdx: as far as I can tell, yes. It is the only blank app. I think the font in Popey's Dont Crash app looks different.13:47
jgdxtorusJKL, that error message implies that an import path (set by System Settings) is not correct, or that the SystemSettings qml module isn't installed. Both are highly unlikely.13:47
popeytorusJKL: interesting!13:47
torusJKLjgdx: I have used UT Tweak Tool to change the favourite apps in the launcher.13:48
jgdxtorusJKL, what else :P Does /usr/share/ubuntu/settings/system/qml-plugins/SystemSettings/ListItems/qmldir exist?13:48
pmcgowanmatv1, hey13:49
torusJKLjgdx: yes, it does.13:50
mterrytedg: also platform-api please13:51
dobeyis it empty/corrupt/etc?13:51
tedgmterry: That should be phablet-team ?13:51
tedgmterry: Too late, done :-)13:52
popeytorusJKL: the font is a web font i think which is interesting, do you have network access on the device13:52
popey?13:52
jgdxtorusJKL, is the root disk full or does it have sufficiently free space?13:52
torusJKLjgdx: I take it back.13:52
mterrytedg: :)13:52
torusJKLI didn't check the ListItem directory13:52
torusJKLIt does not exist.13:53
torusJKLpopey: No, I have set it to airplane mode while I'm on OTA-13.13:54
jgdxthere's your problem13:54
torusJKLjddx: what could have caused this?13:54
popeytorusJKL: yeah that would do it13:55
popey\o/ team!13:55
torusJKLjgdx: could the tar error message while flashing have something to do with the missing ListItem directory?13:56
jgdxtorusJKL, i don't know what that message was13:56
torusJKLCan I just push the files using adb to fix the issue?13:56
torusJKLwhile being in recovery mode.13:57
jgdxtorusJKL, without knowing exactly what files you need, I don't think that's going to work13:58
matv1pmcgowan hi gd morning. I spent a good part of this morning tracking down very slow wifi coonections to what turned out to be this:13:58
matv1https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-network/+bug/159858413:58
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1598584 in frieza "wifi slows to a crawl when bluetooth is enabled" [Critical,Confirmed]13:58
matv1pmcgowan together with popey we also discovered that the M10 is not the only device affected. see my comment.13:59
matv1In my case when using bt, network speeds dropped to about 10k/s where without an active bt device connected this was 4M/s. That is a pretty awfull drop.13:59
jgdxtorusJKL, you could reinstall system settings, but then you're modifying your system and that can cause more troubles13:59
pmcgowanmatv1, which other devices13:59
matv1It seems like a  huge bug to me if bt is able to take down wifi connections like this.13:59
popeypmcgowan: m10 and e4.514:00
torusJKLjgdx: can I use the ListItems directory from the backup I took before upgrading to OTA-13?14:00
matv1as far as we know popeys bq 4.5 and my N414:00
matv1pmcgowan anyway popey seemed to think that you might be willing to re-prioritize this one if I brought it to your attention.14:00
pmcgowanmatv1, noted14:00
popeythanks14:00
matv1pmcgowan awsum thanks14:01
pmcgowanits proaby good that its not justthe ,10 in terms of finding a fix14:01
pmcgowanM1014:01
matv1right although popey didnt see anything bad happen to his Meizu Pro 5 I believe14:01
jgdxtorusJKL, it's up to you to try, I really don't know. Sorry14:02
torusJKLjgdx: ok. I will try. Thanks for your time!14:02
popeyyeah, i had difficulty reproducing on the pro 5, but that may be because I have limited bluetooth devices around here14:02
popeyso can't be sure14:03
jgdxtorusJKL, np. Good luck14:03
dobeywell the pro5 is a totally different chipset14:08
dobeythe bt/wifi interference seems to be an inherent "feature" of the MTK chips14:08
matv1dobey hmm there is no MTK in the Nexus4 afaik14:10
matv1also putting it purely down to that would mean the android versions of said devices would be affected in the same way14:11
dobeymatv1: oh true. missed that. thought this was m10/e4.5/mx414:11
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torusJKLjgdx: This folder doesn't exist on my OTA-12 either.14:31
torusJKLBut the settings open and seem to work fine.14:31
jgdxtorusJKL, IIRC it was introduced by OTA1314:33
miumiuhi every body, I try install phablet-tools but see virtual package dependencies repo not install14:53
pmcgowanpopey, that BT interference issue, was it always when using 2.4GHz wifi ap?15:33
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popeypmcgowan: the m10 and 4.5 only have 2.4Ghz I believe15:35
popeyi can re-test when I get home and actually have bt devices handy15:35
pmcgowanpopey, ok I am assuming so15:37
pmcgowanwas reported on arale too but without that noted15:37
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MCMicIs there any possibility of visioconference using webrtc on ubuntu touch?15:43
MCMicIt seems there is appear.in in the store as a webapp, but appear.in seems to be non-free :-/. jitsi meet does not seem to work from the browser15:48
iAskYouhi17:28
iAskYoui wan to get ubuntu-touch for galaxy ace - i know thats old, but my question is is that possible? and when how?17:30
OerHeksiAskYou, see if you can port it yourself ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting17:38
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RLShiftyDoggitcan someone help me with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/23248423/21:27
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aquarius_jdstrand: much love for you for fixing https://bugs.launchpad.net/click-reviewers-tools/+bug/1591253. Cheers :)21:53
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1591253 in Canonical Click Reviewers tools "Misidentifies many asset files as binaries, thus preventing architecture:all packages" [Wishlist,Fix committed]21:53
jdstrandaquarius_: yw21:54
jdstrandaquarius_: truth be told, it'll help me a bit too since I get pinged on reviews :)21:54
aquarius_jdstrand: I saw you set it to wishlist and I was all, grrr, it's really important! and then you fixed it. So, apologies for the unjust accusation there :-)21:54
jdstrandaquarius_: if you grrr'd publicly, I didn't see it. if only privately, well... <whistle>21:55
aquarius_I'm not churlish enough to complain publicly :)21:55
aquarius_but that will help, 'cos it totally baffled a chap on the telegram chat. And me, when I tracked it down :)21:56
aquarius_anyway, cheers, pint for you next time we're in the same place21:56
jdstrandsounds good! :)21:56
bumbleheadhy would anyone tell me if this phone on amazon would work with ubuntu touch?23:51
bumbleheadhttps://www.amazon.com/Original-Meizu-1920x1080-21-16MP-3050mAh/dp/B0179DCHRO23:51
bumbleheadI've been waiting for a new ubuntu touch phone but haven't seen any news about a new phone23:52
bumbleheadso would like to know 1) is this the best ubuntu touch phone available? 2) is it possible that a newer phone might come out in the next two to three months?23:53
bumbleheadalso... this phone says it is the 'chinese' model and not the 'international' model23:55
bumbleheadis that meaningful as far as installing ubuntu touch goes?23:55
k1l_i dont know if the chinese one got a open bootloader. there was something but i cant recall it correctly23:56

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