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[12:32] <cmaloney> morning
[12:39] <rick_h_> morning
[12:52] <jrwren> looks interesting: http://beta.repology.org
[12:53] <jrwren> good morning
[12:53] <jrwren> no ubuntu there, but hoepfully they will add it. I know there are some universe packages that have been abandoned for years and keep getting carried over. Maybe this will shed some light on their needed maintenance.
[12:54] <cmaloney> Interesting
[12:54] <cmaloney> Perhaps they figure Ubuntu / Debian already do something like this
[12:55] <cmaloney> (albeit, not as nicely surfaced)
[12:56] <jrwren> debian is on the list.
[12:57] <jrwren> its still beta.
[12:57] <cmaloney> Well, then Ubuntu is covered. :-P
[13:13] <dzho> no CentOS/Fedora/Scientific Linux
[13:17] <jrwren> no one uses those. :p
[13:18] <jrwren> it is weird, they chose to ignore the 2 top high used distros.
[13:29] <dzho> well, ignore or not start with or whatever
[13:30] <jrwren> true. it does look like you could plug them in. I think they support rpm based distros.
[13:34] <dzho> this looks like the tricky part https://github.com/AMDmi3/repology#package-matching
[13:34] <jrwren> indeed. that is some black magic there.
[13:34] <dzho> the thing that comes to mind for me there is that org-mode is a separate package in Debian, but is included in the emacs packages for Fedora et al
[13:34] <cmaloney> Is there such a thing as a central RPM repo?
[13:35] <cmaloney> Seems there's still reasons to use rpmfind
[13:35] <jrwren> dzho: i think they would be better suited analyzing source packages instead of binary, but maybe both are important.
[13:36] <dzho> yeah that's where my thoughts turned
[13:36] <dzho> but you'd have to depend on the upstream package source files being programmatically available
[13:36] <jrwren> dzho: they are for all the distros we have mentioned.
[13:37] <dzho> "oh that's easy, you just download the source file for each package for each distro and then ..."
[13:37] <dzho> then a miracle occurs because that turns into a huge task
[13:37] <jrwren> dzho: i haven't looked at how this thing actually works. I'm sure you are right.
[13:38] <dzho> I like to see these sorts of things, though, because it's of a piece, in my mind, with universal builds and reproducible builds and such.
[13:38] <dzho> making sure you have, as the GPL puts it, complete and corresponding source.
[13:39]  * dzho now feels compelled to search the phrase "source code ontologies"
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[13:55] <jrwren> appears there is no rpm based distro support. That explains that.
[14:21] <dzho> ok, I have recovered from my urge to read anything having to do with ontologies