[00:00] <nacc> RustyShackleford: your question comes across as a bit confused. You can run a script in, e.g., /usr/local/bin (presuming it's in PATH) from anywhere. Where you are running from is called the "current working directory" and the path to your executable is something else.
[00:00] <th0r> RustyShackleford are you aware you can add an alieas to /etc/hosts for an ip address? I have names for all my servers on the home network
[00:00] <nacc> th0r: another good point
[00:00] <nacc> afaict, aliases are a terrible way to workaround IP<->hostname lookups
[00:01] <RustyShackleford> hmm /etc/hosts might be better then
[00:01] <nacc> maybe terrible is too strong -- seem likes a mis-use, at least :)
[00:01] <Seife> Jordan_U: Oh :) Is it possible that the animations in gnome 3 are just sluggish and my system is actually working properly? Would be a shame, I really like the DE but the slowness kills it for me. Do the animations run smoothly on integrated graphics normally?
[00:01] <debkad> nacc: you're confused between alias and functions
[00:02] <th0r> and I meant alias only in the sense that it is a name for an ip address
[00:02] <nacc> debkad: I'm not sure that I am, but I think RustyShackleford's goal has nothing to do with the shell, really
[00:02] <RustyShackleford> ~/dotfiles/install.sh, which will run ln -s bash_profile ~/.bash_profile
[00:03] <RustyShackleford> if I dont first cd ~/dotfiles, that command won't find bash_profile
[00:03] <debkad> nacc: i agreed about that
[00:03] <RustyShackleford> because it will search in your working directory, right?
[00:04] <nacc> RustyShackleford: it completely depends on what install.sh does
[00:04] <OerHeks> etc/hosts would be systemwide and for all users.
[00:04] <RustyShackleford> anyway, I appreciate the help. I need food to think more clearly, brb.
[00:04] <nacc> RustyShackleford: but presuming it's written exactly as written, yes, it's all relative to cwd
[00:04] <debkad> haha have a good one
[00:05] <RustyShackleford> nacc: anyway to not make it depend on cwd?
[00:05] <th0r> RustyShackleford, supply full path/filename for all references in the script
[00:05] <RustyShackleford> suppose its not the end of the world to first cd ~/dotfiles, then run my script. I shouldn't need to do it very often hah
[00:05] <nacc> RustyShackleford: use an absolute path? or do some manipulation of $0
[00:06] <RustyShackleford> th0r: well then you lose portability. Suppose I share this with a friend on github, his user folder is not the same because he has a different name than me
[00:06] <nacc> tbh, this functionality seems pretty broken ... :)
[00:06] <nacc> and you shouoldn't be using your user name, clearly, you're either using ~ or $HOME
[00:06] <th0r> RustyShackleford, true, but you didn't mention portability, just making it work anywhere in the structure <smile>
[00:06] <nacc> but again, this all probably belongs on #bash and not here
[00:07] <RustyShackleford> alright I'll bug those folks after dinner
[00:07] <RustyShackleford> simplest solution seems to be to cd to the dotfiles folder first
[00:17] <coolp_jim> Test, is this message seen?
[00:18] <darkdrgn2k> no it is not
[00:18] <coolp_jim> thanks!
[00:18] <darkdrgn2k> try again tomorrow
[00:18] <SaintMoriarty> Hi, my system won't boot because of data storage. I have booted using a live disk and am in the shell. How can I mount my HD to remove old files?
[00:19] <darkdrgn2k> mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[00:19] <darkdrgn2k>  ?
[00:20] <SaintMoriarty> can't see a sda1
[00:20] <SaintMoriarty> looking in dev there is no SD* anything
[00:20] <darkdrgn2k> how obut hda
[00:21] <SaintMoriarty> no
[00:21] <darkdrgn2k> u sure you fully booted the live cd?
[00:21] <SaintMoriarty> I booted ubuntu install disk > recovery mode > execute a shell
[00:21] <SaintMoriarty> am I in the wrong shell?
[00:21] <th0r> SaintMoriarty, is the HD internal?
[00:21] <SaintMoriarty> yes it is
[00:21] <k1l> SaintMoriarty: why dont you just boot the live-usb to the "try ubuntu " desktop.
[00:22] <k1l> SaintMoriarty: then you can just click in the file manager onto the disks and they will mount them
[00:22] <SaintMoriarty> is the live-usb different from he ubuntu install disk?
[00:22] <k1l> SaintMoriarty: "ubuntu install disk"?
[00:22] <SaintMoriarty> yes
[00:23] <k1l> you meant the disk where you installed ubuntu on?
[00:24] <bynarie> is running "apt-get remove --purge" == "apt-get purge" ?
[00:25] <nacc> bynarie: from `man apt-get`: "remove --purge is equivalent to the purge command"
[00:25] <bynarie> ok, thank you
[00:25] <bynarie> i figured so
[00:25] <xubuntu> Hello
[00:25] <Jordan_U> SaintMoriarty: How did you prepare the "Ubuntu install disk" that you're currently using? What iso is it based on?
[00:26] <SaintMoriarty> its the iso on the server download page
[00:26] <k1l> SaintMoriarty: the server iso doesnt have a live enviroment
[00:26] <Guest38248> which is more faster Lubuntu or Xubuntu
[00:27] <k1l> Guest38248: lubuntu is made for old and slow hardware.
[00:27] <SaintMoriarty> can i use it to recover my server?
[00:27] <bynarie> lubuntu is a bit lighter on resources
[00:27] <bynarie> xubuntu is also fairly light
[00:27] <SaintMoriarty> \should i use a different ISO?
[00:28] <darkdrgn2k> SaintMoriarty: use somethign liek knoppix :-P
[00:28] <debkad> o_o
[00:28] <debkad> darkdrgn2k: you are in #ubuntu :D
[00:28] <darkdrgn2k> debkad: and hes complaining he cant get the live cd to work to mount his ubuntu volume
[00:29] <darkdrgn2k> debkad: i know knoppix just works "TM" so *shrug*
[00:29] <OerHeks> no, he is in shell again, not using gparted.
[00:29] <orlock> wow knoppix
[00:29] <orlock> thats a name i havent heard since ubuntu became vailable
[00:29] <Seife> on distrochooser it says that ubuntu builds connections to some servers in the background without the user knowing. do the other systems like xubuntu and lubuntu also do that?
[00:30] <SaintMoriarty> does ubuntu desktop version have the live feature?
[00:30] <darkdrgn2k> supposed to
[00:30] <Ben64> Seife: sounds like FUD
[00:30] <k1l> Seife: thats outdated information
[00:30] <OerHeks> reliable source, Seife
[00:30] <darkdrgn2k> OerHeks: i have heard rumors of that too to be honesty.. dont know what to make of them
[00:30] <orlock> did they remoe the Amazon thing from ubuntu?
[00:31] <k1l> orlock: yes, its opt-in
[00:31] <moestevens> From Unity you mean?
[00:31] <moestevens> Yeah as k1l said it's opt-in by default.
[00:31] <bynarie> SaintMoriarty, if you are just looking to recover something and not install, i would recommend xubuntu live iso because its quick and mostly non-bloated
[00:31] <frost_> aanybody familiar with the wifi pinnapple
[00:31] <SaintMoriarty> bynarie, downloading
[00:31] <xangua> ! Ask | frost_
[00:31] <bynarie> ok
[00:31] <orlock> frost_: no, but what about it?
[00:32] <moestevens> frost_: Isn't that the thing that got zero day'd or something?
[00:32] <Seife> sorry didn't want to make false statements here. I just heard that and that people want to move away from the canonical beacuse of that
[00:32] <orlock> frost_: also, somebody will tell you to go elswhere as it's not ubuntu related
[00:32] <frost_> i was asking if anybody has used it with ubuntu
[00:32] <Guest57244> hi
[00:32] <bynarie> SaintMoriarty, i run xubuntu, not because its light on resources, but because i like the look. and its easy to navigate. the newer gnome3 desktop is just horrid IMO
[00:33] <darkdrgn2k> bynarie: +1
[00:33] <bynarie> =]
[00:33] <darkdrgn2k> bynarie: currently i run cinnamon.
[00:33] <frost_> bymarie i like xubuntu
[00:33] <darkdrgn2k> but i dono :/
[00:33] <frost_> currently usun
[00:34] <frost_> using ubuntu in metacity
[00:34] <bynarie> cinnamon is also a good choice, once again, based on gnome2 (i think)
[00:34] <moestevens> Any of you guys like MATE? I love it.
[00:34] <SaintMoriarty> ok my files are in /dev/machinename-vg/root
[00:34] <SaintMoriarty> but i can't cd into root
[00:34] <moestevens> Although a bit too slow on my lappy so I went back to Debian and i3.
[00:34] <SaintMoriarty> do i have to mount it
[00:34] <darkdrgn2k> bynarie: ya fork of 2
[00:34] <bynarie> any desktop based on gnome2 is a good choice if you like simplicity.
[00:34] <darkdrgn2k> SaintMoriarty: did you mount the dev?
[00:34] <SaintMoriarty> no
[00:34] <darkdrgn2k> you may want to mount it first
[00:34] <k1l> cinnamon is based on gnome3 but looks like gnome2
[00:35] <darkdrgn2k> yeh thast right...
[00:35] <k1l> mate is actually the old code from gnome2
[00:35] <darkdrgn2k> but its buggy LOL
[00:35] <debkad> yeah cinnamon is a fork from gnome3
[00:35] <darkdrgn2k> and i donno.. im having a hard time adjusting
[00:35] <OerHeks> enough choise
[00:35] <darkdrgn2k> donno if its cinnamon. somethign im misisng.. or just my experiance with winblows
[00:35] <SaintMoriarty> should i be mounting /root
[00:35] <frost_> how do u feel about gnome 3
[00:36] <darkdrgn2k> i dont like wha tthye did with gnome
[00:36] <darkdrgn2k> its a little to tabblety for my liking
[00:36] <k1l> frost_: for the talk about taste better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:36] <k1l> !ot
[00:36]  * debkad didn't use gnome for a while ( from when gnome3 start )
[00:37] <darkdrgn2k> is tehre some kinda of graphic accelerator that needs to be installed with cinnamon?
[00:38] <SaintMoriarty> ok download done
[00:38] <SaintMoriarty> i am going to boot xubuntu
[00:38] <darkdrgn2k> things seem so slugish
[00:38] <frost_> go mint
[00:38] <darkdrgn2k> like ill grab a window.. the start moving it.. and it wont move till a second later
[00:38] <frost_> do u have compiz running?
[00:38] <frost_> that always slags
[00:38] <darkdrgn2k> dont think i installed it
[00:38] <darkdrgn2k> naa its just a stock ubuntu with cinnamon installe
[00:39] <k1l> darkdrgn2k: gnome-shell needs some working 3d drivers, yes
[00:39] <darkdrgn2k> k1l: i installed the propriatery amd drivers..
[00:39] <darkdrgn2k> but its as if im missing something.. i donnot what
[00:39] <darkdrgn2k> the expirance JUST isnt there
[00:40] <k1l> darkdrgn2k: meaning the amd_gpu_pro?
[00:40] <darkdrgn2k> i donnot the one from additionals software
[00:40] <darkdrgn2k> (its the first tiem in installing stuff from gui LOL)
[00:40] <darkdrgn2k> sorry additioanl drivers
[00:40] <k1l> ubuntu 16.04?
[00:41] <Bashing-om> darkdrgn2k: "installed the propriatery amd drivers" What release are you on - I have not ben paying a lot of attention. xenial kernel has no FGLRX support .
[00:41] <Guest57244> السلام علیکم
[00:41] <darkdrgn2k> seems like it says 340.96
[00:41] <darkdrgn2k> from nvidia-340
[00:41] <k1l> darkdrgn2k: that is nvidia driver, not amd
[00:41] <darkdrgn2k> o.O
[00:41] <darkdrgn2k> hmm wierd your right
[00:42] <darkdrgn2k> sorry. my bad
[00:42] <k1l> darkdrgn2k: please show the url of "lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | nc termbin.com 9999"
[00:43] <SaintMoriarty> ok i have booted live ubuntu
[00:44] <darkdrgn2k> http://termbin.com/e8op
[00:44] <k1l> darkdrgn2k: what is the output of "lsb_release -sd"
[00:46] <darkdrgn2k> Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[00:47] <k1l> darkdrgn2k: you could try if the nvidia-361 is better on that card
[00:48] <k1l> after you change that in the systemsettings you need to at least log out. but i will go afk now.
[00:48] <darkdrgn2k> k1l: but it seems its more then that.. i donnot everythign feels slughish for some reason
[00:48] <darkdrgn2k> k1l: its almost like im miossing something
[00:48] <btorch_> I know this isn't an ubuntu kickstart channel but is there one that has activity ?
[00:48] <darkdrgn2k> wait where do i fine nvidia 361?
[00:48] <darkdrgn2k> additioanl driver only wshows 340
[00:56] <nacc> !info nvidia-361
[00:56] <Bashing-om> darkdrgn2k: Any other drivers installed ? show ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' in a pastebin .
[01:00] <dsnyders> Hi all!  At the start of August, the NOAA shut down the weather service it was providing, breaking the weather panel-applet.  Is there a recommended replacement?
[01:00] <frost_> look outside
[01:00] <frost_> LOL jk jk
[01:03] <dsnyders> frost_: Maybe you know where I can download a weather rock?
[01:04] <darkdrgn2k> http://pastebin.ca/3722984
[01:04] <OerHeks> dsnyders, some solutions.. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/08/gnome-weather-forecast-not-available
[01:08] <Bashing-om> darkdrgn2k: Humm .. why " ii  nvidia-settings                            361.42-0ubuntu1 " version on a 340 driver install ? Maybe consider purging the nVidia driver and the config file, and re-install 340 ?
[01:12] <dsnyders> OerHeks: Thanks.  I'll take a look at that.
[01:21] <devan> okay is there any updated info on why ubuntu 16.04 times out during shutdown for those of us with luks and if there's any kind of work-around?
[01:22] <devan> question to this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1554795
[01:22] <jiawh> hi, anyone there?
[01:23] <en1gma> i adjusted the colors for terminal and i cant seem to get default back. do i need to be sudo -i?
[01:24] <devan> there is like absolutely nothing! on why systemd and luks don't get along. NOTHING!
[01:25] <devan> and yet everybody on almost every forum is reporting the same problems with systemd, I use luks and I have to put up with this stress just to keep my drives protected?
[01:26] <uRock> en1gma, check the box to use system theme
[01:26] <dax> hi, LUKS and systemd user here, have never had any problems ever
[01:26] <en1gma> uRock i did but its not doing the default
[01:26] <dax> but you know w/ev must be a conspiracy
[01:27] <uRock> Create a new account and copy the settings
[01:27] <en1gma> i did it both in preference and profile preferences for both sudo -i (root) and non-root
[01:27] <devan> dax, I'm calling anecdotal on that, sorry but there's like tons of us where luks aint working with systemd..
[01:27] <jiawh> anyone
[01:27] <en1gma> hmmm
[01:27] <gallo_mobile> dos anyone use/run VNC with OS X? trying to remotely connect to my Ubutu box from an external connection
[01:27] <dax> devan: *chuckle*
[01:27] <uRock> jiawh, If you have a question, then ask
[01:28] <uRock> if someone has an answer, then they'll give it
[01:28] <en1gma> im gonna restart computer brb
[01:29] <jiawh> first use this app, dont know how to use it
[01:29] <uRock> which app?
[01:29] <jiawh> ok, get it
[01:29] <Jordan_U> devan: Did you configured LUKS using the Ubuntu installer or manully?
[01:32] <uRock> jiawh, what app are you talking about?
[01:32] <devan> okay the systemd vs update-initramfs is a major debian bug here. Hopefully this will be resolved soon.
[01:32] <devan> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/275734/why-does-systemd-cryptsetup-try-to-remount-the-root-partition-already-mounted
[01:32] <devan> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=618862
[01:33] <uRock> <3 ubottu
[01:34] <devan> I've tried both using dev paths as well as UUID entries in crypttab and both still fail during bootup and shutdown
[01:35] <WhoAmi00> Hey guys
[01:35] <WhoAmi00> does letsencrypt TLS cert works with postfix
[01:35] <WhoAmi00> i'm using it but gmail shows that messages are not encrypted
[01:35] <WhoAmi00> does the problem in my configuration or we need a S/MIME cert to avoid the red lock on google
[01:35] <WhoAmi00> please help
[01:36] <dax> I'm using LetsEncrypt with postfix at work
[01:36] <dax> so i'ma go with "yes"
[01:37] <dax> i mean, you have to configure it, i don't think it's OOTB even with the wacky do-it-all client they recommend
[01:40] <WhoAmi00> @dax can i PM you ?!
[01:41] <WhoAmi00> HELLO
[01:41] <dax> https://www.svennd.be/setting-up-postfix-tsl-with-lets-encrypt/ seems like a reasonably accurate guide
[01:41] <dax> and no, I don't do PM
[01:42] <WhoAmi00> @dax have you tried that guide ?!
[01:46] <jiawh> how could find my interesting channel?
[01:47] <Jordan_U> devan: Ubiquity does have an option for installing using LUKS, which automtically also enables encrypled swap. Please try that and see if it works for you (it has worked for me in the past without issue).
[01:47] <joe> with xchat-gnome how do you enter other chat rooms?
[01:49] <jayjo> If my system is using too much of the drive to where bash can't create a tmp file, what is the best way to list my directories by size, or what is a good file to empty?
[01:52] <Bashing-om> jayjo: 1st. have you cleaned house ? then ' du -h --max-depth=1 | sort -hr ' is useful for finding out which directories are using all your space.
[01:56] <elGALL0> can anyone recommend a VNC client/server I can use to connect to Ubuntu FROM MacOS/X?
[01:58] <jayjo> looking through the system now, what are the files that are safe to remove via rm -r? like var/cache ?
[01:58] <jayjo> or /var/lib
[01:59] <WhoAmi00> anyone with experience in postfix please PM me
[02:02] <bynarie> WhoAmi00, lookin for a mail system solution?
[02:04] <Bashing-om> jayjo: There are no system files that are "safe" to remove . There are package management tools to clean out the cache and obsolete files .
[02:06] <WhoAmi00> looking for somehelp
[02:06] <WhoAmi00> for free :P
[02:07] <bynarie> u could use an easy to install stack like mail in a box
[02:07] <By4kug4n> omg....
[02:08] <pantato> anyone else too stubborn to use anything except 14.04?
[02:08] <By4kug4n> i've never seen so many people on one channel
[02:08] <By4kug4n> why are you are stil on 14.04
[02:08] <By4kug4n> is that lts?
[02:08] <pantato> how many people are in here?
[02:08] <pantato> yes
[02:08] <By4kug4n> 1312
[02:08] <WhoAmi00> DOES AWS FILTERING STARTTLS ?!
[02:08] <pantato> well for one it boots up faster
[02:08] <By4kug4n> does it use unity?
[02:09] <debkad> i'm using 14.04 too
[02:10] <Bashing-om> By4kug4n: Yes, 'u'buntu uses unity as the DE on 16.04 still ..
[02:10] <limbera> i'm writing a cron job:
[02:10] <limbera> 5 * * * * source /srv/cushing/venv/bin/activate && python /srv/cushing/manage.py runcrons > /srv/logs/cronjob.log
[02:10] <limbera> will that run every 5 minutes?
[02:10] <By4kug4n> i stopped using ubuntu once it's desktop spin started using unity as main
[02:11] <cybermage> i need help
[02:11] <By4kug4n> with?
[02:11] <WhoAmi00> talk
[02:11] <debkad> By4kug4n: i hate unity my self but you have other choices too ( other desktops )
[02:11] <By4kug4n> i know
[02:11] <By4kug4n> i use xubuntu
[02:11] <cybermage> im trying to download PIL (Python Image Librar)
[02:12] <By4kug4n> i'm not a fan of gnome 3 desktop or unity
[02:12] <debkad> By4kug4n: good choice
[02:12] <By4kug4n> but i've heard unity has come a long way
[02:12] <erasmus> mate is nice
[02:12] <debkad> yeah that sad
[02:12] <By4kug4n> mate is nice, i agree
[02:12] <cybermage> it says i dont have the right source files or something
[02:12] <By4kug4n> was using linux mint's cinnamon for a little bit, which is good
[02:13] <debkad> cybermage: pip search pil i think
[02:13] <By4kug4n> what are you trying to do cybermage
[02:13] <debkad> i think ocr thing
[02:14] <cybermage> ok so i have pillow
[02:14] <cybermage> but when i try to import it into python theres an error
[02:14] <cybermage> should i go to python for this?
[02:14] <By4kug4n> this might be a newb question, but what's a pillow?
[02:14] <By4kug4n> a library or something?
[02:15] <cybermage> By4kug4n:a library for images in the python programming languages
[02:15] <cybermage> im trying to import an image in python
[02:15] <By4kug4n> maybe go to their website and look up how to import it into python
[02:15] <cybermage> but the trouble is really getting the source files right
[02:16] <By4kug4n> hmm
[02:16] <debkad> cybermage: there are 2 or more version of pillow see the command above
[02:16] <cybermage> yea
[02:17] <By4kug4n> did you uninstall pil?
[02:17] <By4kug4n> found this - https://pillow.readthedocs.io/en/3.3.x/installation.html
[02:17] <debkad> good point
[02:18] <cybermage> damn
[02:18] <cybermage> dis gonna be complicated
[02:19] <debkad> pip install pillow may be
[02:19] <By4kug4n> did you see the linux section
[02:19] <debkad> Pillow *
[02:19] <cybermage> yea
[02:20] <cybermage> what do i do after i install because when i try to code
[02:20] <cybermage> it cant find the library
[02:20] <By4kug4n> how did you go about installing it the first time around?
[02:21] <By4kug4n> if you can, I'd uninstall it completely, then follow that link i posted
[02:21] <cybermage> i have pillow installed apparently
[02:21] <cybermage> im really just confused lol
[02:22] <debkad> lol
[02:22] <debkad> see the link that By4kug4n gave you they show the old syntax and the new, you must change
[02:22] <By4kug4n> maybe download an example script
[02:23] <debkad> “import Image”. Please use “from PIL import Image” instead
[02:23] <debkad> ... etc
[02:23] <debkad> i think he found some script and tried ==> mission failed
[02:24] <Hagoromo> :)
[02:24] <cybermage> brb making tacos
[02:25] <debkad> good taco
[02:25]  * debkad don't know what is that
[02:25] <cybermage> tacos?
[02:25] <debkad> yeah
[02:26] <debkad> something we eat?
[02:26] <cybermage> its a kind of food from south of the Trump Wall
[02:26] <debkad> ah
[02:26] <debkad> sound delicious
[02:26] <cybermage> they are
[02:26] <pantato> http://imgur.com/gf4JMpn <--- i'm not sure what to make of this
[02:26] <pantato> am i being hacked?
[02:26] <debkad> how dare you hurting my estomac
[02:27] <debkad> oh that look bad
[02:30] <SchrodingersScat> pantato: you can check your /var/log/auth and see if they got in.
[02:30] <cybermage> THEY REROUTED ME INTO FRIENDSTER
[02:30] <SchrodingersScat> pantato: /var/log/auth.log although if they did then maybe you don't trust the logs
[02:31] <zot> \join #archlinux
[02:33] <skynet07> hello
[02:39] <viktor133> Hi all. I'm running latest LTS. My problem is my lenses for folders/files and videos only show what has been opened before. and my lenses music and photos don't show anything at all. anybody have any ideas?
[02:46] <jimtendo-X540S> Hey guys. I'm having a bit of a problem with (K)Ubuntu on a new laptop I've bought (X540S). It's a Quad-Core Pentium N3700 and it stalls quite often. In KSysGuard, I notice that during these freeze ups, many processes are getting "disk sleep" as "CPU %". It's a mechanical drive (not SSD), but I still think this shouldn't be happening as there's not much load on the PC (even Disk IO shouldn't be very high). Anyone have any
[02:46] <jimtendo-X540S> tips here or know any way I might be able to debug what's happening?
[02:47] <Papabear> maybe open terminal and type: dmesg
[02:47] <Papabear> might give you some info
[02:47] <Papabear> might want to go to the kubuntu channel
[02:49] <jimtendo-X540S> Papabear: Yeah, I've checked dmesg... cannot see anything suspicious in there. Any other places you can think to look?
[02:49] <jimtendo-X540S> Papabear: I asked on #kubuntu a while ago, but this seems more like a Ubuntu-general (or Kernel) problem, i think. I don't think it's caused by KDE specifically.
[02:53] <jimtendo-X540S> Papabear: I have 4GB swap (equivalent to the RAM size) setup... think disk cache could be getting prioritized here, thus slowing things down dramatically? Or will Swap only ever be utilized once RAM is full?
[02:56] <bynarie> depends on swappiness value when swap kicks in
[02:56] <bynarie> default is 60
[03:00] <jimtendo-X540S> bynarie: Oh, any idea where I'd look to tweak this?
[03:00] <jimtendo-X540S> bynarie: Going to try disabling it all together atm to see if that's where it's bottlenecking... if it is, it'd be good to be able to tweak it to something a bit better.
[03:02] <WhiteNight> Hello, please suggest a nice backup software for UM Xenial. Something with which its also easy to search for old files and backup, thanks
[03:03] <viktor133> WhiteNight, why not use dejadup?
[03:03] <debkad> do i need to install BIND9 ( dns thingy ) ?
[03:04] <jimtendo-X540S> bynarie + Papabear: Looks like it was the swap... disabling that has made things much much smoother. Might need to get some more RAM and an SSD. Thanks for you help, appreciate it.
[03:05] <WhiteNight> debkad, does it do incremental and differential both?
[03:05] <debkad> WhiteNight: no idea, it just bring up and tell me to install those bind
[03:06] <viktor133> Hi all. I'm running latest LTS. My problem is my lenses for folders/files and videos only show what has been opened before. and my lenses music and photos don't show anything at all. anybody have any ideas?
[03:06] <debkad> WhiteNight: is not bind for servers only?
[03:07] <WhiteNight> OOps ... sorry debkad ... I was actually replying to viktor133
[03:07] <debkad> o_o
[03:07] <debkad> no problem
[03:07] <WhiteNight> viktor133, dejadup does incremental and differential both?
[03:08] <debkad> just wonder if it is something needed for system or just optional
[03:08] <viktor133> WhiteNight. not sure, just know it's based on rsync, so i guess differential
[03:09] <WhiteNight> ok will check it out, thanks viktor133
[03:09] <debkad> ok i think i just remove it
[03:10] <viktor133> WhiteNight, np
[03:12] <Bray90820> Can anyone here help me get my  rt5640 sound card working on my tablet
[03:12] <Bray90820> Rubbing ubuntu 16.04 x64
[03:12] <Bray90820> *running
[03:14] <Bray90820> I have tried using these files but nothing seems to work
[03:14] <Bray90820> https://github.com/burzumishi/linux-baytrail-flexx10/tree/master/sound
[03:16] <adjafa> What is a irc
[03:17] <adjafa> please help me what is a IRC
[03:17] <viktor133> adjefa, this is
[03:17] <viktor133> adjafa, this is
[03:33] <sakamoto> guys
[03:34] <debkad>  
[03:35] <B0073D> The heck https://i.imgur.com/dMuCMLy.png
[03:36] <B0073D> Chrome blocked my ubuntu download.
[03:36] <B0073D> Is there a compromised distribution point??
[03:36] <debkad> B0073D: use wget
[03:37] <debkad> from where you went to download?
[03:37] <B0073D> Ubuntu website
[03:37] <sakamoto> debkad?
[03:37] <debkad> use wget
[03:37] <sakamoto> thanks for help me yesterday
[03:37] <debkad> sakamoto: no problem :)
[03:38] <B0073D> from http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu/releases/16.04.1/ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[03:38] <viktor133> Hi all. I'm running latest LTS. I have a problem with the dash. My lenses for folders/files and videos only show what has been opened before. and my lenses music and photos don't show anything at all. anybody can help?
[03:39] <debkad> B0073D: wget http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu/releases/16.04.1/ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[03:40] <B0073D> Yes I can use wget. I'm just on a windows host box
[03:40] <debkad> it will download it in the current directory
[03:40] <debkad> ah
[03:40] <debkad> try torrent link
[03:41] <B0073D> The hash is right.
[03:42] <B0073D> Must be chrome being stupid.
[03:42] <B0073D> Weird.
[03:42] <debkad> B0073D: yeah
[03:44] <B0073D> Mostly wanted to make sure there wasn't a bigger issue.
[03:45] <B0073D> Wonder if anyone else has had this issue.
[03:46] <debkad> B0073D: i guess just because the link is http and not https ( i could be wrong )
[03:46] <sakamoto> do we able to discuss someting like hacking here?
[03:47] <debkad> sakamoto: what kind of hacking?
[03:47] <limbera> is this the syntax to run a cron every 5 minutes?
[03:47] <limbera> */5 * * * *
[03:48] <sakamoto> debkad: exploit system
[03:48] <sakamoto> debkad: i wonder if windows 10 has a vuln
[03:48] <debkad> sakamoto: i don't think so, may be you should ask in kali or something
[03:49] <sakamoto> tell me the channel
[03:50] <debkad> limbera. ..
[03:51] <sakamoto> debkad
[03:51] <debkad> yes
[03:51] <OerHeks> !hacking
[03:52] <sakamoto> kali linux channel ? is it available here?
[03:52] <debkad> i think yes
[03:53] <user13> If you can't find it on your own, you probably shouldn't even bother joining it.
[03:53] <OerHeks> the room is there, the guys are not.
[03:53] <sakamoto> i know, bots right?
[03:53] <sakamoto> hhh
[03:54] <debkad> lol
[03:54] <trasken> Could someone help me.  I just installed Ubuntu 10.10 and my WiFi card isn't working.  I ran lshw - C network and it says it's unclaimed
[03:54] <OerHeks> good 'ol 10.10
[03:54] <OerHeks> really trasken ?
[03:55] <debkad> oh
[03:55] <trasken> Lol I like it
[03:55] <debkad> still exist?
[03:55] <Bashing-om> trasken: 10.10 ?? Long out of support, thereis no software respository as you ince may have known it .
[03:55] <superguest> I have a multi-monitor configuration, setup via nvidia-settings.
[03:55] <trasken> Ya I know lol.  But anyone  have any ideas?
[03:56] <debkad> that the first linux and cd come to me from ubuntu , time when i start linux world
[03:56] <procyon> Hello all, my mouse wont work once I boot into ubuntu-- But it works just fine in my bios. Any suggestions?
[03:56] <debkad> mouse work on bios?
[03:56] <superguest> After (deliberately) deleting /etc/X11/xorg.conf, the configuration persists, for some reason.
[03:56] <debkad> first time i heard that
[03:57] <trasken> But can someone help?
[03:57] <debkad> superguest: i think nvidia save config in somewhi the home directory
[03:57] <superguest> I've search in other locations (as documented in the xorg.conf(5) manpage)
[03:58] <superguest> but as far as I am concerned, it's not there.
[03:58] <superguest> debkad, oh ic...
[03:58] <superguest> I'll have a look
[03:58] <debkad> check logs too when you open the nvidia setting
[03:58] <debkad> to be sure where it go
[03:59] <OerHeks> superguest, that sounds like the xorg.conf was just a copy of hardware detection.
[03:59] <debkad> time to go, have a good day
[03:59] <vak0160> can someone help me with dual GPU Intel HD4400 and Nvidia g210 (not optimus) and dual monitor setup? the 2nd monitor is turned on and recognized, but only shows black
[04:00] <trasken> Could someone give me some advice
[04:01] <viktor133> Hi all. I'm running latest LTS. I have a problem with the dash. My lenses for folders/files and videos only show what has been opened before. and my lenses music and photos don't show anything at all. anybody can help?
[04:01] <OerHeks> trasken, 10.10 is eol and not supported in this channel. find a supported version, see topic
[04:01] <ibmt-60> hello
[04:01] <Bashing-om> procyon: Bios USB setting .. "plug and play " and maybe change USB from "legacy" ?
[04:02] <procyon> Bashing-om: Change to legacy? Or another option?
[04:04] <OerHeks> viktor133, may be a setting in systemsettings>security&privacy>files&applications
[04:05] <Bashing-om> procyon: Try it both ways .
[04:06] <procyon> Okay. I'll report back
[04:07] <viktor133> OerHeks: only two folders are excluded (levels down from the "main folders" like pictures, music,...) and for the rest all the boxes are ticked
[04:19] <CraigAfter> "One of the important characteristics of evil is that it forbids questioning and it taboos or criminalizes the candid search for answers. By prohibiting a person to ask questions and to search for answers it is denying that which makes us human. The capacity to doubt and to search for answers to pressing problems is one of the most important attributes that distinguishes humans from animals." - Germar Rudolf
[04:28] <viktor133> Hi all. I'm running latest LTS. I have a problem with the dash. My lenses for folders/files and videos only show what has been opened before. and my lenses music and photos don't show anything at all. anybody can help?
[04:35] <mensh> всем привет
[04:38] <jatt> Прощай
[04:39] <sarka> hi
[04:45] <procyon> no luck with that Bashing-om
[04:46] <procyon> I tried another mouse but the same thing happens. Works within bios but once I boot nothing registers
[04:46] <procyon> Both mice work on my laptop without issue
[04:46] <afwang> Would Xvfb still be useful when Mir and Wayland roll out? Is there any sort of Mir or Wayland replacement for Xvfb? I'm not too familiar with the Linux display stack.
[04:46] <Bashing-om> procyon: Lemme see what else I can come up with .
[04:48] <Bashing-om> procyon: Bios setting "IOMMU Controller" ? set to enabled ?
[04:48] <procyon> I dont have that setting
[04:49] <afwang> Ah, answering my own question: https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2012-December/006589.html Looks like headless display servers are supported!
[04:54] <procyon> I'm really worried it's a motherboard or psu failure :x
[04:55] <viktor133> Hi all. I'm running latest LTS. I have a problem with the dash. My lenses for folders/files and videos only show what has been opened before. and my lenses music and photos don't show anything at all. anybody can help?
[04:58] <daemon555> what is the default verison of javascript thats comes with firefox on ubuntu 14.04?
[04:58] <Bashing-om> procyon: Well . chances are a driver issue . in that bios is not handing off to grub where the driver to load is . get a positive result from ' ls -l /dev/input/by-path/* ' ?
[04:59] <procyon> Five results for that, two related to mice
[04:59] <princessstein> Ursula Haverbeck is now facing criminal hate speech charges after debating how many Jews died in the Holocaust on national television. The debate was aired on German public television and broadcast all over Europe. It was the first time anyone has been allowed to question the official "Holocaust" death toll on German television.
[05:02] <Kaleene> https://www.darkmoon.me/2016/nice-german-lady-punished-for-asking-where-did-6-millions-jews-die-video-5-29-mins/
[05:03] <procyon> I'm not sure what I should be looking for Bashing-om
[05:05] <Bashing-om> procyon: Wel that syas the kernek is aware . how about ' cat /proc/bus/input/devicescat /proc/bus/input/devices ' we got a bus assignment ?
[05:05] <Bashing-om> kernel*
[05:07] <procyon> The mouse shows up there
[05:08] <Bashing-om> procyon: try: ' sudo modprobe psmouse ' .
[05:08] <procyon> Nothing happens
[05:09] <Bashing-om> procyon: Yuk . what release are you running ?
[05:09] <procyon> 16.04
[05:11] <Bashing-om> welllll .. does the mouse work in the live environment in the "try ubuntu" mode ?
[05:11] <procyon> I haven't tried a livecd, I'd have to make one
[05:11] <procyon> It was working earlier today, so I'm not sure what caused it to bork
[05:12] <ubiv> New Ubuntu coming soon.
[05:12] <Bashing-om> procyon: try a older kermel in this install .. see then ?
[05:12] <ubiv> Should be smooth if not fantastic.
[05:13] <procyon> I'll give that a shot, thanks for trying Bashing-om
[05:14] <procyon> what's the key combination to get into grub again?
[05:14] <Rarrikins> procyon: Shift
[05:14] <Bashing-om> procyon: Well .. we still just poking .. see what we can find oit . Be great if works in another old kernel .
[05:18] <procyon> Weird, it's working after I tried to get into grub
[05:20] <Bashing-om> procyon: weird is right . points to a driver, huh ? .. laptop with a touchpad ?
[05:20] <procyon> I'm not totally sure why it decided to break like that, but I'm glad to have a working mouse. Thanks again Bashing-om
[05:21] <Bashing-om> procyon: well .. just goes to show never can tell .
[05:22] <procyon> Hope it doesn't happen again
[05:28] <CoderEurope> I cannot find the launchpad repo for 'Vodeos' App. Any help there ?
[05:28] <CoderEurope> **Videos
[05:43] <CoderEurope> Sorry my browser crashed - Did anyone find the Launchpad page for the Ubuntu App 'Videos' ?
[05:48] <InnerCode> Hey all, I've problems with connecting to a Wifi network. It's trying to connect, getting a DHCP offer and disconnects. I've only problems with this networks. Other Wifi networks works ok. The syslog of connecting to the network can be found here: http://pastebin.com/YmJdzhsB Thanks in advance!
[05:52] <Triffid_Hunter> InnerCode: it says the router never confirms your DHCP_REQUEST after DHCP_OFFER, network stack gives up and nukes the link. router may be out of memory, COTS ones do that a lot. give it a powercycle and see what happens
[05:53] <InnerCode> ~Triffid_Hunter: Thanks! I will give it a try. It's a corporate Wifi network.
[05:53] <Triffid_Hunter> InnerCode: also why is it offering a 192.168.3 when server address is 192.168.1? 192.168 range is usually class C, not B, although it's a B-sized non-routable address range
[05:53] <Triffid_Hunter> InnerCode: and howcome the server doesn't respond to DHCP_DISCOVER? sounds like something is rather broken there
[05:54] <root___12>  
[05:55] <root___12> testing
[05:55] <InnerCode> Triffid_Hunter: Because we don't use standard subnets here. netmask of 22 bits
[05:55] <orlock> CIDR all the things!
[05:55] <Triffid_Hunter> InnerCode: fair enough, still doesn't explain why the router won't respond to DHCPDISCOVER or confirm your DHCPREQUEST
[06:03] <JAWC> CoderEurope, it is totem. https://launchpad.net/totem
[06:04] <CoderEurope> cheers.
[06:07] <mo_> bsr tt le monde
[06:08] <ulrichard> How can I automaticalls start a snappy app when I log in. In ps it shows as "Telegram -workdir /home/richi/snap/telegram-sergiusens/10 -noupdate" But that works neither on the commandline nor startup programs.
[06:23] <spotter> chromium (browser) seems to be unable to login to google services for me anymore
[06:23] <spotter> anyone else seeing this
[06:25] <AJ_Z0> By "google services" do you mean Google's authentication service used by its many and various sites and services?
[06:30] <pikapikachu> hi everyone, I try to install nvidia-352 on my ubuntu14.04.5LTS, but get the following message: nvidia-352 depends on xorg-video-abi-11 but can not install it. yesterday I try to install nvidia-352(352.99) driver on 14.04.1, and these were no wrong, but then the system ask me to update to 14.04.5, then it was still ok. but when I log into 14.04.5, there was a small red triangle on the top right panel, which seemed to recomme
[06:30] <pikapikachu> nd a new xorg-driver to me, after I installed it, things went wrong -- I could not use nvidia anymore.
[06:31] <pikapikachu> any ideas? thanks in advance.
[06:33] <spotter> AJ_Z0, no, google sync built into browser
[06:33] <AJ_Z0> pikapikachu: One approach is to purge all nvidia-* packages and use the proprietary driver detection to find, install and activate the nvidia driver
[06:33] <spotter> i.e. the name in the upper right corner of its title bar
[06:34] <spotter> it says "Service unavailable.  Try again later"
[06:34] <AJ_Z0> spotter: I know what you mean. It the icon yellow? If so, then click it and provide your encryption passphrase, else it's some other issue
[06:34] <spotter> from what I can tell this might be an api key issue if its not just me
[06:34] <pikapikachu> AJ_Z0: thanks. but when I use nvidia-detector, it says 'none', but lspci can still find nvidia
[06:35] <spotter> AJ_Z0, I have.  multiple times, and even tried other accounts, always same thing
[06:35] <spotter> pondering blowing away my .chromium setup and see if it makes a differrence
[06:35] <AJ_Z0> pikapikachu: Do you have hybrid graphics? If so, then it may work differently (and I've never used it)
[06:36] <pikapikachu> AJ_Z0: oh yes, I have an intel card and a nvidia card. thanks anyway.
[06:38] <AJ_Z0> spotter: You can test by renaming .config/chromium/
[06:38] <spotter> nope didn't make a difference
[06:39] <spotter> yea, that's what I did my "blowing away"
[06:39] <spotter> moved it away, restart, tried to log in and nada
[06:45] <spotter> google chrome works though
[06:45] <AJ_Z0> spotter: FWIW, it's working for me with current chromium on up-to-date Xenial, already syncing and running. Browser reports "Last time synced on Wednesday, September 28, 2016 at 2:09:17 AM UTC-4" so the service is working for me. Too much running to test dis/reconnection and restart now
[06:45] <spotter> oh
[06:45] <spotter> right
[06:45] <spotter> this isn't xenial
[06:45] <viktor133> Hi all. I'm running latest LTS. I have a problem with the dash. My lenses for folders/files and videos only show what has been opened before. and my lenses music and photos don't show anything at all. anybody can help?
[06:45] <spotter> this is yakkety, need to ask in +1
[06:46] <AJ_Z0> chromium-browser 52.0.2743.11 amd64
[06:46] <spotter> running on a x1 carbon 4g so needed newer kernels so installed yakkety, keep on fogetting forum
[06:46] <spotter> hmm
[06:46] <spotter> Version 51.0.2704.79 Ubuntu 16.10 (64-bit)
[06:46] <AJ_Z0> Just be happy you're using Fedora, though right now chromium is working fine
[06:47] <RudyValencia> Hi so I'm trying to get an LXC container of 14.04 to shut down when told to by libvirt virsh, but it ignores the request; how do I get it to shutdown?
[06:49] <AJ_Z0> spotter: The slight version difference suggests there may be a new chromium package along shortly in Yakkety and that may fix what should be a highly visible problem (assuming it's not just you, which seems likely). In any case, good luck
[06:49] <Dubli> fieri
[06:50] <Dubli> sganciate sto file
[06:50] <Dubli> bella li grazie
[06:50] <dio> yo
[06:50] <gesu> we
[06:51] <dio> tutti su assault cube adessoooooooooooo
[06:51] <AJ_Z0> s/slight/not-so-slight/ since I just noticed the "major" version is one behind, too
[06:52] <Sillypirate> Anyone know why in kde not all window decorations are changed when I apply a theme ? for example my taskbar and widgets have the new theme applied but chromium for instance
[06:53] <Sillypirate> * does not , same goes for konsole
[06:58] <viktor133> anybody can help me with a dash problem? (lenses aren't working)
[07:00] <ducasse> RudyValencia: did you set up the container with libvirt?
[07:00] <RudyValencia> not initially no
[07:00] <RudyValencia> I used lxc-create to make it
[07:01] <ducasse> RudyValencia: because libvirt lxc is not the same thing as regular lxc, it just uses the same kernel framework.
[07:01] <ducasse> RudyValencia: one can't see the other.
[07:01] <RudyValencia> so I need to redo this container?
[07:02] <ducasse> RudyValencia: if you want to control it with libvirt you need to set it up with libvirt
[07:02] <RudyValencia> I'm even checking with running it outside libvirt
[07:03] <ducasse> RudyValencia: i don't know if you can somehow create an xml file for libvirt for it, never tried that.
[07:03] <RudyValencia> I have a libvirt xml file from virt-manager
[07:04] <RudyValencia> but the same thing happens even with lxc-stop when started by lxc-start with a config file in the directory
[07:04] <ducasse> RudyValencia: it won't stop?
[07:04] <RudyValencia> nope
[07:05] <RudyValencia> I can stop it from within the container though
[07:05] <ducasse> RudyValencia: can you pastebin the config?
[07:05] <RudyValencia> sure
[07:05] <hateball> viktor133: ask the real question
[07:05] <viktor133> Hi all. I'm running latest LTS. I have a problem with the dash. My lenses for folders/files and videos only show what has been opened before. and my lenses music and photos don't show anything at all. anybody can help?
[07:05] <totonne98> ehi
[07:06] <boch> ciao
[07:06] <viktor133> hateball: have been copy-pasting it all day. thought i'd make it shorter
[07:06] <RudyValencia> oh wait, all I have in the config is the veth settings
[07:06] <thekrynn> does anyone know why the find command might be brutally slow when used on a directory over NFS as compared to locally on the machine that's hosting it
[07:07] <Sillypirate> thekrynn what kind of network are you using and how much data is involved ?
[07:07] <thekrynn> the directory's got around 500k files
[07:08] <thekrynn> locally on the machine, the find completes in around 15s, via NFS over 10g, 10min
[07:08] <boch> i think 600k
[07:09] <hateball> viktor133: That's better than asking "anyone...". I dont use Unity/Dash myself so I do not know. But now that the real question is visible someone else may
[07:09] <boch> hi dubli
[07:09] <Dubli> bella li
[07:10] <RudyValencia> ducasse: with proper lxc config it shuts down when not run by libvirt
[07:11] <ducasse> RudyValencia: ok, the libvirt part i can't really help you with, as i said they are different things.
[07:16] <przemek_> eluwa
[07:19] <przemek_> +62929
[07:19] <przemek_> +,3+
[07:19] <przemek_> 695,+6
[07:19] <przemek_> 5,+
[07:19] <przemek_> 5,
[07:19] <przemek_> ,2
[07:19] <YuSu> hello everyone
[07:20] <YuSu> hihi~!~
[07:20] <YuSu> anybody there?
[07:21] <bazhang> do you have an ubuntu support issue YuSu
[07:21] <Yengas> Hey guys. I've been getting an error: 'can't request region for resource' and ubuntu installation stucks at the splash screen. I read that its about nvidia cards. Are there any solutions?
[07:22] <hateball> !nomodeset | Yengas
[07:24] <Yengas> hateball: thanks! i will check it out
[07:26] <hateball> Yengas: do remember that you will need to apply it to the installed version if you get that far as well
[07:26] <hateball> Yengas: until you can enable a proper driver
[07:27] <Yengas> hateball: p.s. i dont get the language selection, the splash screen i see is the first thing that pops up
[07:27] <Yengas> can i still set the boot options
[07:32] <morty_> hello everyone.. is it possible to remove xorg after setting up wayland?
[07:33] <ducasse> morty_: wayland depends on a lot of x-related stuff, so maybe not everything. also not if you use xwayland.
[07:33] <root106> hi
[07:33] <morty_> ducasse: thx
[07:34] <root106> hi
[07:37] <maum> hello
[07:37] <maum> Is there a way to save grub by using dd command? I tried to backup mbr of node.
[07:40] <Yengas> hateball: setting the nomodeset flag made me able to boot the livecd! the keyboard and mouse doesnt work but i had usb mouse/keyboard sitting around and i think i can get the installation done that way.
[07:40] <Yengas> my main problem with the older versions of the kernel was that my wirelesss card is supported in kernel 4.1+
[07:41] <Yengas> so atleast that got out of the way. thanks hateball
[07:45] <ConsoleFx> hi all!
[07:45] <ConsoleFx> My Ubuntu seems to be acting really unstable (16.04 lts) whenver its connected wifi.. However I dont face the same issue while I am connected through LAN
[07:46] <ConsoleFx> is it a known issue or there is something that I am missing to patch?
[07:52] <neredsenvy> Anyone here familiar with CiscoAnyconnect or openconnect
[07:52] <Gue-clone> i use it
[07:52] <Gue-clone> openconnect
[07:55] <neredsenvy> Gue-clone: I was given a username/password which works on windows anyconnect tho before it let's me start the VPN connection it gives me an untrusted certificate warning but I can still pass
[07:55] <neredsenvy> openconnect just gives me ssl warning and fails
[07:56] <Gue-clone> use --no-cert-check
[07:58] <neredsenvy> Gue-clone: I tried but I still get https://dpaste.de/PAZu
[08:00] <Gue-clone> looks like you are hitting https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openconnect/+bug/1225276
[08:02] <Gue-clone> which version of openconnect are you using?
[08:02] <ConsoleFx> folks any solution?
[08:02] <ikonia> solution to what
[08:02] <neredsenvy> Gue-clone: 5.02
[08:03] <ConsoleFx> My Ubuntu seems to be acting really unstable (16.04 lts) whenever its connected through wifi.. However I dont face the same issue while I am connected through LAN
[08:03] <ConsoleFx> it keeps getting disconnected in every 5 mnts
[08:03] <Gue-clone> looks old, I'm using
[08:03] <Gue-clone> OpenConnect version v7.06
[08:03] <ConsoleFx> but LAN runs flawless
[08:04] <Gue-clone> can you get a more recent version?
[08:04] <neredsenvy> I'm on 14.04 I'll try it
[08:04] <ikonia> ConsoleFx: look at the wifi card you're using, check it's linux support, look at the systems logs to see if it gives a clue to why it's dropping, look at the AP logs if possible to see if that gives any more info on it
[08:05] <ConsoleFx> ikonia, whats the log file path for AP logs?
[08:05] <neredsenvy> Gue-clone: Did you install it from source or package manager ?
[08:05] <ikonia> ConsoleFx: its on the access point (AP = access point)
[08:05] <neredsenvy> I did it via apt-get install openconnect
[08:05] <ConsoleFx> ikonia, aah ok
[08:06] <Gue-clone> it's from the package manager in the universe/net section
[08:06] <neredsenvy> Gue-clone: not gonna work seems for 14.04 that's the last version
[08:07] <neredsenvy> Gue-clone: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=openconnect
[08:07] <Gue-clone> you can try to build from source
[08:10] <apex_> I'm having a problem with the Software application in 16.04 Mate
[08:11] <apex_> whenever I try to search something, the letters I type are entered two times
[08:12] <apex_> any suggestions?
[08:12] <yuji> Anyone else have experience with onboard RAID ("FakeRaid") UEFI installations?
[08:14] <ducasse> yuji: the advice you're most likely to get is "don't". use software raid or proper hw raid.
[08:15] <ineedhelp> hi im looking for a way so i can install ubuntu to a harddrive from my computer, take out that harddrive and put it into a built computer and use it, unetbootin would work but it doesnt detect my harddrive on the harddrives list
[08:15] <ineedhelp> can anyone help / suggest ways?
[08:16] <yuji> ducasse: Software Raid is a nightmare just to attempt, I'd rather debug through some ath9k drivers on 4.8 RCx kernels. Doesn't work for my situation, SoftRaid that is.
[08:16] <yuji> ineedhelp: Tried a 'LiveCD'?
[08:17] <ppf> ineedhelp: random crazy suggestion: set up a virtual box vm, use the second hard drive as a virtual virtual hard drive
[08:17] <ineedhelp> i havent got any cds around with enough space for ubuntu
[08:17] <yuji> ineedhelp: Could always use a usb drive, or do what ppf beat me to saying. :)
[08:18] <ineedhelp> i tried that ppf to install it to the other harddrive, but i couldnt add the physical hard drive in virtualbox to the vm
[08:18] <ineedhelp> im not sure how to use real harddrives instead of virtual hard drives in virtual box
[08:19] <ppf> ineedhelp: vbox calls that a "raw hard drive"
[08:19] <ppf> https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#rawdisk
[08:21] <akkonrad> hey, I'd like to display my phone screen (android) on laptop screen (ubuntu 14.04) - is there any tool that allows for that?
[08:25] <lol768> How do I use a network scanner with simple-scan?
[08:25] <ducasse> akkonrad: install a vnc server for android, maybe?
[08:25] <lol768> I can scan by invoking xsane <ip_of_scanner>
[08:25] <yuji> Such a shame Linux can't get even RAID right. *sigh, something else besides gaming/audio/io-guarantees that Lamedows can do that Linux can't*
[08:26] <ducasse> y0sh: looked at zfs?
[08:26] <ppf> #driveby
[08:27] <ducasse> y0sh: sorry, wrong nick.
[08:31] <tanel_> Hi there
[08:31] <tanel_> First time using Irssi, learning the ropes, don't mind me :P
[08:33] <DK2> whats wrong with mdraid?
[08:34] <padlefot> who says there is anything "wrong"?
[08:34] <DK2> yuji
[08:34] <padlefot> There are raids that are far superior though
[08:35] <padlefot> I have heard mdraid discribed as poor mans raid
[08:35] <DK2> i've never had bad experience using mdraid
[08:35] <padlefot> me neither tbh.. but zraid owns it
[08:37] <ppf> give btrfs a shot :)
[08:37] <ineedhelp> so i just run virtualbox with the ubuntu iso to install it to the other hard drive?
[08:37] <ppf> ineedhelp: yes
[08:38] <ineedhelp> ok sounds easy
[08:40] <JediMaster> Is there a way of specifying package options that are normally manually entered, or set via debconf-set-selections via the apt-get command?
[08:40] <ineedhelp> one problem with teh virtualbox installation
[08:40] <ineedhelp> i run it and the virtual machine pauses because it doesnt have access to the hard drive
[08:44] <ineedhelp> ppf: u there?
[08:44] <arkouda> Good afternoon
[08:45] <arkouda> Would you like to visit and help new chat?  Www.greekircnet.gr
[08:48] <Tuxick> lo, i'm in a bit of a catch22 here, ubuntu-bug starts apport-kde which fails miserably
[08:49] <Tuxick> when i select "other" next dialog asks me what sort of display error i get, and then segfaults
[08:50] <Tuxick> so how am i supposed to report this bug?
[08:50] <Tuxick> so that i can report the bug i initially wanted to report half an hour ago :)
[08:51] <ppf> !bug | Tuxick
[08:51] <Tuxick> speaking of catch22 :)
[09:02] <superguest> can someone please tell me whether the directory ~/.config is part of Ubuntu's distribution? i.e. it is Ubuntu's way of organizing user's  session configuration  and app and other user settings?
[09:03] <superguest> I spent the last several hours figuring out why my multi-monitor configuration persists with no "xorg.conf".
[09:03] <popey> superguest: it's a common directory on all linux distros, it's an open specification that many applications use
[09:03] <k1l_> superguest: its not ubuntu specific. other distributions use that too
[09:04] <popey> superguest: bet you will have some success by removing the monitors.xml file from there
[09:04] <awak3> yo
[09:04] <popey> to reset the config
[09:04] <popey> awak3: word
[09:04] <mattysmart> when i type "date" into ubuntu server its an hour heind
[09:04] <mattysmart> how do i change this
[09:04] <mattysmart> hour behind*
[09:04] <superguest> finally, I was able to locate a file called ~/.config/monitors.xml which stores the multi-monitor configuration.
[09:05] <awak3> popey: wut?
[09:05] <popey> mattysmart: you can set the date with "date -s"
[09:05] <pandaadb> hi - i am struggling to change 1 shortcut on my unity ubuntu setup. The current shortcut is "command (mac keyboard) + w" - it makes all the windows kinda fly into the middle so i can choose them. Similar what gnome3 does on windows click
[09:05] <popey> mattysmart: also, check your computer is in the right time zone.
[09:05] <pandaadb> I was wondering where I can change that, i'd like it to be on command + f1
[09:05] <pandaadb> I know where the shortcuts are, but i don't know what this feature is called and the names don't help me
[09:05] <popey> mattysmart: some companies install servers and set them to UTC rather than use daylight savings for example
[09:05] <mattysmart> pepey do you have a dummy example
[09:05] <superguest> popey, why didn't you tell me this 3 hours ago? :P
[09:06] <popey> superguest: soz :)
[09:06] <superguest> http://codepad.org/cvRseXBA
[09:09] <mattysmart> popey , if when i do date it shows as 09:08:51 UTC 2016 how do i make it 10:08:51 UTC 2016
[09:09] <popey> mattysmart: you don't want to do that
[09:09] <mattysmart> why?
[09:09] <popey> mattysmart: because that's not the time
[09:10] <popey> notice UTC
[09:10] <mattysmart> i dont know what UTC is
[09:10] <popey> Timezone
[09:10] <padlefot> Universal
[09:10] <popey> mattysmart: where is your server and where are you?
[09:10] <mattysmart> so i want to change timezone instead?
[09:10] <popey> possibly
[09:10] <mattysmart> london , and uk
[09:10] <popey> but do you really want to do that? :)
[09:10] <popey> ok
[09:11] <popey> mattysmart: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[09:11] <mattysmart> i just need my users to see the correct time, because everything saving into mysql database is showing as created an hour ago
[09:11] <popey> run that, to change timezone
[09:11] <padlefot> sudo dpkg-reconfigure tz-data ?
[09:11] <padlefot> damnit
[09:11] <popey> padlefot: close ;)
[09:11] <padlefot> but no cigar
[09:11] <padlefot> one too many hyphens also
[09:11] <padlefot> :P
[09:11] <mattysmart> popey woul dmine just be europe
[09:12] <popey> no, BST
[09:12] <padlefot> tab completion makes me lazy
[09:12] <popey> UK is in British Summer Time right now, so pick "GMT With daylight savings"
[09:12] <mattysmart> do i go onto system V timezones?
[09:12] <popey> you can choose location, europe -> uk -> london iirc
[09:13] <popey> yes, just checked, choose Europe -> London.
[09:13] <superguest> popey, I originally configured my multi-monitor configuration via nvidia-settings.  hmmm... not to get into the technical details, but I am thinking there has to be an rc file somwhere  which auto-generates upon the creation of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:13] <popey> superguest: I use nvidia with no xorg.conf, sorry.
[09:13] <mattysmart> cheers thats done it
[09:13] <mattysmart> :)
[09:13] <popey> mattysmart: yay!
[09:13] <padlefot> (-:
[09:13] <mattysmart> but my mysql records are all an hour out of date , poop
[09:14] <popey> time for a funky bit of sql
[09:14] <popey> also, the app should probably save in the db in UTC
[09:14] <popey> rather than server timezone.
[09:14] <popey> also, watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5wpm-gesOY :D
[09:14] <mattysmart> my mysql field is just a timestamp
[09:15] <popey> right, but can be adjusted before being written
[09:15] <brunch875> How do I check the message of the day? ask.ubuntu says it's in /etc/motd but I can't find that
[09:16] <mattysmart> yeah
[09:17] <mattysmart> anyways thanks for the help , im off the sql land now, you may never see me again :(
[09:17] <padlefot> adieu
[09:51] <k_sze[work]> Where is the timezone database stored in Ubuntu?
[09:52] <ppf> dpkg -L tzdata
[09:55] <k_sze[work]> Thanks
[10:14] <`slikts> what's the best way to install php 7 in ubuntu trusty? from a ppa?
[10:17] <`slikts> ughhhhh! this was a mistake, it's installing apache
[10:19] <`slikts> pretty lame that the metapackage tries to install apache by default
[10:19] <`slikts> mod_php is slow and dated
[10:20] <jack_> show
[10:20] <jack_> lls
[10:20] <`slikts> sorry?
[10:20] <jack_> show
[10:21] <jack_> yes
[10:22] <jack_> Hi,everyone
[10:23] <manhdv> hi
[10:24] <jack-ripper> error error parcing subspace pcc from pcct at boot?
[10:25] <Drecondius> do I need to be here or in a different channel for the server?
[10:25] <`slikts> /part #ubuntu
[10:26] <`slikts> derp
[10:26] <hateball> !server | Drecondius
[10:27] <Drecondius> Thank you ubottu lol
[10:30] <ZeekHuge> how can I stop a window from taking focus except when i place a mouse on it ?
[10:30] <ZeekHuge> I mean the mouse pointer
[10:31] <Drecondius> edition?
[10:34] <ducasse> ZeekHuge: look for a setting to prevent focus stealing.
[10:35] <ZeekHuge> Drecondius: ubuntu 14.04
[10:35] <ZeekHuge> ducasse: where to look for it ? compizConfig ?
[10:36] <ZeekHuge> unable to see that ...
[10:36] <ZeekHuge> unable to find that ..
[10:37] <ducasse> ZeekHuge: no idea, i don't use unity. i would guess ccsm, yes.
[10:37] <backbox> hey
[10:38] <tcorneli> hi, does anyone know how to start mysqld manually? it doesn't happen when i use mysqld_safe
[10:40] <YuxKukMo> hi guys! can anyone tell me why this error messages appeared to me after runing source ~/.bashrc?
[10:40] <YuxKukMo> the messages are: syntax error near unexpected token `then'  and `if [ -z "$debian_chroot" ] && [ -r /etc/debian_chroot ]; then'
[10:40] <YuxKukMo> i've made a separate file named .bash_aliases. after running source ~/.bashrc the mentioned errors occured
[10:40] <YuxKukMo> nothing was modified in the .bashrc file
[10:41] <steven> anyone able to recommend a tool to profile the system? I have this weird issue that the HW runs at around 90-100% when I start the smallest applications, the entire OS is laggy
[10:42] <steven> idk anything that allows me to benchmark hardware or certain compatibility issues
[10:45] <tcorneli> anyone know how to use mysql in 16.04?
[10:45] <steven> pmuch how you'd use it on every other system, install mysql-server and.. use it?
[10:46] <k1l_> tcorneli: depends on what you want to do.
[10:47] <tcorneli> k1l_: i want to log on as root, seems impossible
[10:47] <steven> what are you doing exactly and whats the error msg
[10:47] <steven> mysql -uroot -p$password
[10:48] <tcorneli> ERROR 1698 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost'
[10:48] <tcorneli> when i am logged in as root (sudo su), i can logon as root in mysql
[10:48] <k1l_> tcorneli: are you mixing system root and mysql root?
[10:48] <steven> hm, well either the wrong password or no password was set to begin with
[10:48] <k1l_> tcorneli: sudo su is bad. use sudo -i
[10:49] <steven> sudo -sE if you wanna use your current users environment, jfyi
[10:49] <k1l_> tcorneli: set a new mysql-root pw if you have forgotten what you choose on mysql install: mysqladmin -u root -p password "newpw"
[10:49] <steven> but mysqls root account has nothing to do with your OS's root
[10:50] <steven> all you have to do is mysql -uroot -p$password (or leave the password and mysql will prompt you for one, that way you avoid the PW in bash's history9
[10:51] <tcorneli> still same error, steven
[10:51] <steven> oh can u just change it like that k1l_ ? I'd juse the maintanance account to change it
[10:51] <steven> unless mysqladmin only allows you to change the pw as root, is that the case?
[10:52] <k1l_> steven: needs sudo or rootshell.
[10:52] <steven> ah gotcha, see I didnt know that :) I'd use the maintanance account and update it manually
[10:53] <Kartagis> I'm still struggling with this videp fps issue. can anyone help?
[10:55] <Kartagis> this is what my videos are like https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11918318/video.gif
[10:55] <Kartagis> be it oonline or offline
[10:58] <jakey3> Hi, how do i list channels on irssi for example in freenode?
[10:58] <tcorneli> there must be something preventing me logging in as mysql root when you're not root in ubuntu
[10:59] <akik> !alis
[10:59] <Kartagis> jakey3: /msg alis list
[10:59] <roberto_> ciao a tutti
[10:59] <Kartagis> !it | roberto_
[11:01] <DirtyPirate> Does anyone know a window manager / de that has proper multi gpu support, Ive used a lot of de/wms throughout the years but cant find any that just works in this setup
[11:09] <[_]`> Hi, hope you don't mind me asking a python question. when i used python in commandline and import sklearn, it works. but not with python3. is it something i should configure? (assuming i should use python3 since it would be better)
[11:10] <DirtyPirate> You need the python 3 lib , its a seperate lib
[11:10] <DirtyPirate> often its like this python2-somelib / python3-somelib otherwise just use PIP
[11:11] <[_]`> ah, I am searching on Sofrware center and it has python-sklearn but nothing for python3. i'll google this, thanks
[11:11] <steven> just use apt-cache search python | grep sklearn
[11:11] <steven> it'll show u everything there is
[11:12] <steven> python3-sklearn - Python modules for machine learning and data mining
[11:12] <steven> ^ thats the package u need
[11:12] <[_]`> how do i check what python3 version i have? :S
[11:13] <steven> python3 --version
[11:13] <DirtyPirate> ^not relevant really , but something like -v will do
[11:13] <DirtyPirate> python3 = python3 therefor compat libs
[11:13] <DirtyPirate> And besides everyone use 2.x :P :D
[11:14] <[_]`> ahh i see. the sklearn said it has to be 3.3 or greater so was wondering. apt-cache search shows nothing. maybe i need to add some repo or uncomment something
[11:14] <jakey3> what does "redirect-gateway def1 bypass-dhcp" do?
[11:14] <agentd> I'm new here,can someone help me
[11:14] <steven> depends on your ubuntu version, maybe you're using a version that doesnt have it
[11:14] <steven> I am running 16-04 and its in the official repositories
[11:15] <DirtyPirate> [_]  ubuntu is relatively uptodate so should not be an issue, if it really has to there are ways to install dif version but its often a little messy
[11:15] <steven> there is always some dude providing a ppa, but personally I dont like ppa's much
[11:15] <steven> i'd stick to official packages
[11:15] <[_]`> lsb_release -a say this is what i have Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS
[11:16] <steven> well I guess in that case ubuntu 14.04 does not offer those packages officially
[11:16] <steven> either use a ppa or pip or upgrade to the latest lts
[11:16] <[_]`> i see
[11:16] <steven> just ask publicly agentd dont ask to ask, just ask
[11:18] <ppf> [_]`: best to install it with pip
[11:18] <Abcdefghijkl> Ubuntu should not be patronizing freenode with any channels
[11:18] <ducasse> !ot | Abcdefghijkl
[11:19] <Abcdefghijkl> Ubuntu can run its own network
[11:19] <agentd> ok I've never used linux before so wondering if anyone can help me with wine,I'm trying to run a .exe software and it's been a headache
[11:20] <ikonia> agentd: why are you using linux if you want to run windows programs
[11:20] <ikonia> just use windows
[11:20] <agentd> just one particular program
[11:20] <steven> whats that
[11:20] <steven> what program I mean
[11:20] <YuxKukMo> agentd: read on winehq site what apps can/cant  run on wine
[11:20] <ppf> then run a vm. wine isn't fun
[11:21] <steven> I'd always look for a linux alternative first
[11:21] <agentd> Havij and I only need it for a min
[11:22] <ppf> how much time did you sink already trying to get it to run?
[11:22] <agentd> an hour
[11:22] <agentd> i keep getting errors
[11:22] <steven> pretty sure you'll get alternatives for that on linux :D
[11:23] <steven> just google for javij alternative linux or something
[11:23] <k1l_> agentd: look into the wine app database what to do to get that windows program running
[11:23] <k1l_> !wine | agentd
[11:23] <k1l_> agentd: and as a hint: dont run everything as root. especially when its not needed, like a irc program
[11:24] <agentd> alright thanks guys
[11:24] <agentd> yeah I'm new here that's why I'm running everything as root
[11:24] <agentd> I'll probably need few weeks to learn few things maybe
[11:24] <Kartagis> agentd: https://chahalgurpinder95.wordpress.com/2014/03/03/install-havij-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[11:25] <popey> agentd: wine isn't perfect, and many things don't work with it
[11:27] <tcorneli> apparently you can only log onto mysql through the socket with the user you are logged in as
[11:28] <agentd> oh and hey is it at all posisle to make some friends off of here,I need help to find books and tutorials to learn
[11:31] <steven> its a community :)
[11:34] <ikonia> tcorneli: you can login to mysql as any user
[11:34] <ikonia> your linux user account has nothing to do with it
[11:34] <monk> can anyone help me get konsole bookmarks to work in 16.04?
[11:34] <monk> im using unity
[11:34] <ikonia> konsole is kde
[11:35] <monk> correct
[11:35] <tcorneli> ikonia: not if the user is set to use the socket
[11:35] <ikonia> tcorneli: nope, you can use a socket as any user
[11:35] <tcorneli> ikonia: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/28068155/access-denied-for-user-rootlocalhost-using-password-yes-after-new-instal
[11:35] <ikonia> tcorneli: so ?
[11:36] <ppf> [13:21]        Philip | Thomas: sie zeigen artikel nicht mit werbeblocker
[11:36] <ppf> sorry
[11:36] <tcorneli> ikonia: it means i cannot logon as root when i'm not root
[11:36] <ikonia> tcorneli: that is wrong
[11:36] <monk> ikonia, I fail to see the relevance to my question?
[11:37] <ikonia> monk: a lot of unity won't be aware of kde components
[11:37] <monk> is there perhaps a package that I am missing in order to open the konsole bookmarks?
[11:37] <ikonia> monk: hence the relevence
[11:37] <tcorneli> ikonia: so how do you login as root when you're not root?
[11:37] <ppf> mysql -u root -p
[11:37] <ikonia> tcorneli: mysql -u root -h localhost -p
[11:37] <ZeekHuge> how can I stop a window from taking focus except when i place a mouse on it ?
[11:37] <bhaisaab> Hi guys, I'm trying to install using apt-get which fails for a pkg giving 404: http://packages.shapeblue.com/cloudstack/upstream/debian/4.9/./cloudstack-cli_4.9.0_all.deb
[11:37] <bhaisaab> but this packages can be downloaded via curl/wget/browser
[11:37] <ikonia> bhaisaab: talk to tht repo owner
[11:37]  * ZeekHuge repeated that again as was unable to find a solution
[11:37] <ikonia> bhaisaab: that is not an ubuntu package
[11:38] <monk> ikonia, so it's impossible then?
[11:38] <tcorneli> ikonia: that doesn't work
[11:38] <k1l_> bhaisaab: using porxies/vpn?
[11:38] <ikonia> monk: no idea
[11:38] <bhaisaab> ikonia: I'm actually the repository builder. Thanks.
[11:38] <ikonia> tcorneli: works fine
[11:38] <monk> helpful
[11:38] <bhaisaab> I'm not using any proxies/vpn. The issue seems to be a 'dot', period in the URL that apt-get is unable to follow.
[11:38] <ikonia> bhaisaab: then you should be able to debug it on your repo
[11:38] <bhaisaab> Anyway to fix that?
[11:38] <tcorneli> ikonia: if it works for you, it's less secure
[11:38] <ikonia> bhaisaab: look at the repos web log
[11:38] <ikonia> tcorneli: no it's not
[11:38] <ppf> tcorneli: wat
[11:39] <ikonia> tcorneli: I suggest you stop stating things you don't understand as fact
[11:39] <tcorneli> ikonia: have you bothered to read what i sent?
[11:39] <ikonia> and just ask for help
[11:39] <ikonia> tcorneli: yes,
[11:39] <bhaisaab> @ikonia: the repository is on S3 so makes debugging tricky. The general question here is how to make apt-get resolve the . (period) to the same URL path.
[11:39] <k1l_> tcorneli: are you aware that mysql root is not the system root?
[11:39] <bhaisaab> apt-get thinks that the url http://packages.shapeblue.com/cloudstack/upstream/debian/4.9/./cloudstack-cli_4.9.0_all.deb is 404, how to make it resolve the URL to http://packages.shapeblue.com/cloudstack/upstream/debian/4.9/cloudstack-cli_4.9.0_all.deb
[11:39] <[_]`> I have a HSSD, i can see the 1TB HD as external HD visually. but i can't find this through command line :s i looked in /mnt and /tmp. any idea?
[11:39] <ppf> tcorneli: "mySQL -h localhost -u root --password=<PW>" and "mySQL -u root -p" is literally the same command
[11:40] <ikonia> bhaisaab: the repo definition and repo metadata
[11:40] <k1l_> bhaisaab: cant you change the repo to not use a . ?
[11:40] <bhaisaab> k1l_: thanks, I can try to fix that
[11:40] <tcorneli> specifying localhost (normally) means you're connecting to the socket
[11:40] <ikonia> tcorneli: yes,
[11:40] <ouroumov> [_]`, check output of "lsblk" or "mount"
[11:42] <tcorneli> so if authentication type is set to auth_socket, you cannot use mysql -u root -p
[11:42] <ikonia> tcorneli: yes you can
[11:42] <ikonia> tcorneli: I think it's pointless to discuss this, as you seem convinced of something that is just wrong
[11:42] <ikonia> tcorneli: take it to the mysql/maria channels and work it through with them
[11:44] <ppf> tcorneli: i repeat, the two commands are identical, modulo the  fact the in the latter you type in the pw on stdin. --host defaults  to localhost if not given
[11:44] <ikonia> ppf: it's pointless, he's read something that random stangers on the internet have said
[11:44] <ikonia> nothing can change that authority
[11:44] <[_]`> ouroumov: thanks. it showed that it was in media/user/ and it is indeed there.  http://pastebin.ca/3723102
[11:44] <ppf> well if it's on the internets, who am i to argue!
[11:44] <ppf> :)
[11:45] <tcorneli> if it's reproducible, i would argue it's correct
[11:46] <[_]`> Oh a side note, is there a specific way to install Ubuntu on a HSSD? i can only manage to install it so that its all installed in the 8 GB SSD and sees the 1TB HDD as external or something. I don't have problem with this but i keep getting a warning that i only have 400 mb free space left :(
[11:46] <ikonia> tcorneli: then you carry on believing that, and the rest of the ubuntu community will use maria just fine
[11:47] <steven> to bring up my initial question since ppl are around :D
[11:48] <steven> does anyone know of a profiling tool for the OS? something to benchmark HW / SW compatibilty or something? I have a super laggy system. everything I open takes 10-30 seconds and sorta halts the entire OS
[11:48] <ikonia> steven: if it's lagging whats the point of benchmarking it
[11:48] <steven> cpu's are running on 80-100% when I open stuff, and its all just really unusable
[11:48] <ikonia> steven: why don't you just focus on working through the problem
[11:48] <steven> and how would I do that?
[11:48] <ikonia> steven: how much ram do you have
[11:49] <steven> I open my terminal and it takes 15 seconds and 4 cores  jump to 100%
[11:49] <steven> 8gb
[11:49] <ikonia> steven: what cpu do you have
[11:49] <steven> ram is not an issue, ram is sorta the only thing "sane" on the machine, intel i5
[11:49] <debkad> steven: that may be you use some kind of hungry desktop
[11:49] <ppf> steven: you can profile the kernel with perf. but i don't think that'll tell you much
[11:49] <ikonia> steven: what version of ubuntu do you have
[11:49] <ikonia> (be specific please)
[11:49] <ppf> do you have fancy things in your bashrc?
[11:49] <ppf> or whatever shell you're using
[11:50] <steven> stock unity DE, ubuuntu 16.04, and yeah I do have a fancy temrinal setup, but the same issue happens when I open chrome, my ide, my editors,  chrome, thunderbird, etc.
[11:50] <ikonia> steven: ok - so what process is eating up the cpu
[11:50] <debkad> that happen to me too, someone tell me it is related to mailing or something, he suggest me to disable MAIL
[11:51] <steven> ikonia
[11:51] <debkad> autocompletion can take a little time too
[11:51] <steven> atm I have hipchat taking ~40% of the cpu (according to htop)
[11:51] <debkad> steven: time to use another desktop
[11:51] <ikonia> steven: ok - kill hip chat
[11:51] <ikonia> debkad: no it's not
[11:51] <ikonia> debkad: stop saying random things with no basis please
[11:52] <ikonia> steven: dos something else take cpu - or does the machine respond fine
[11:52] <debkad> ikonia: unity is much hangry on memory, every body know that
[11:52] <akik> i've noticed on some older setups, bash-completion is a bit of an hog
[11:52] <ikonia> debkad: he has no memeory problesm with 8gb - his cpu is maxed out
[11:52] <ikonia> debkad: you have no basis to say that, so please be quiet
[11:52] <debkad> ikonia: hmm
[11:54] <steven> ok so if I closed all apps but the terminal, I have xorg avg around 12% and gnome-terminal around 10
[11:54] <steven> I closed hipchat, chrome, and thunderbird. the thing is. neither of those apps should take that much HW resources
[11:54] <ikonia> steven: so you have approx %80 cpu free
[11:54] <ikonia> correct ?
[11:54] <steven> 80-90 ish, yeah.
[11:54] <ikonia> steven: how does the system respond now (eg: using gnome terminal, moving the window around etc)
[11:56] <steven> so I just move stuff around and having hhtop open to see what resources get allocated and I move the temrinal around and stuff and it jumps up to 25-30%
[11:56] <debkad> question: is there a lighty zoom tool for lubuntu ?
[11:56] <nunor> hello
[11:56] <debkad> hi
[11:56] <ikonia> steven: interesting, so the redraw is struggling
[11:56] <ikonia> steven: what video card is on your system
[11:56] <dcz> which is better to choose " Network Security , Artifical Intelligence, Network Programming, Fundamentals of Enterprise Application Development " ?
[11:56] <ppf> dcz: how are we supposed to know what you're interested in
[11:57] <ikonia> dcz: thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[11:57] <ikonia> dcz: this channel is just an ubuntu support channel
[11:57] <debkad> PS: i tried xzoom, vmg but no big success
[11:57] <steven> ikonia: trying to figure it out
[11:57] <steven> but its all laggy :D
[11:58] <steven> intel hd 3000 I think
[11:58] <ikonia> steven: you don't know what video card you have ?
[11:58] <nunor> I just upgrade my ubuntu server from 14.04 to 16.04. Upgrade ok but now each time I try to install or remove anything with apt I receive the following error chmod: cannot access '/sbin/udevd': No such file or directory E: Problem executing scripts DPkg::Pre-Invoke 'chmod -x /sbin/udevd'
[11:58] <steven> its an onboard ikonia
[11:58] <steven> laptop
[11:58] <steven> it doesnt have a dedicated gpu
[11:58] <nunor> Trying to remove uninstall udevd as suggested on ubuntuforums didn't work
[11:58] <nunor> as anyone an idea? thanks
[11:58] <ikonia> steven: so based on what you've said, I'm going to make a guess, your video card isn't configured correctly, so it's offloading general graphics work onto the cpu
[11:59] <steven> could be, sounds reasonable
[11:59] <ikonia> nunor: sounds like the upgrade didn't work and left a package hook pending
[11:59] <steven> → lspci | grep VGA
[11:59] <steven> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)
[11:59] <steven> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Mars XTX [Radeon HD 8790M] (rev ff)
[11:59] <YuxKukMo> ikonia: maybe steven has an old i5 generation processor or is what you already said about graphic card
[11:59] <ikonia> nunor: look at what package is complaining, look if /sbin/udevd exists
[11:59] <steven> it does have a dedicated one, didnt know that. but I dont think its using it
[11:59] <ikonia> steven: so there is an AMD card too
[11:59] <nunor> no /sbin/udevd is not existing
[11:59] <ikonia> steven: so I think you can narrow it down from there
[12:00] <debkad> the vmg support text only for zooming, xzomm is a mess, if someone have a clue about that
[12:00] <ikonia> nunor: ok - look at what package provides it
[12:00] <steven> maybe I should try to make the gpu one work
[12:00] <ikonia> steven: look in the xorg log, see what xorg driver is being used/loaded
[12:01] <nunor> ikonia how can I check that? I'm not an expert...
[12:02] <ikonia> nunor: look at the package manifests or use apt-file
[12:02] <steven> oh it loaded both, intel and radaeon. ikonia
[12:02] <ikonia> steven: thats not a bad thing, you're on ubuntu 16.04 right /
[12:02] <ikonia> ?
[12:03] <steven> yes
[12:03] <ikonia> steven: so you may want to research "amdgpu" xorg driver
[12:03] <debkad> I have seen that xfce ( xubuntu ) with 4.12 version have that ability for zooming, wonder if lxde can have something similar, or any kind of thing close to that purpose
[12:04] <ankesh> hi
[12:04] <debkad> hi
[12:04] <steven> thats the new driver ikonia ? was it amd which dropped the closed source driver?
[12:04] <ikonia> steven: thats right
[12:04] <steven> I just read that some vendor dropped support to force users to use the open source one
[12:05] <ikonia> steven: other things to look at, you may want to try enabling/disabling one of the cards in the bios (if possilbe) to just focus on getting one working at this moment in time
[12:05] <ankesh> from where are you @debkad
[12:05] <ikonia> steven: I'd put money it's the overall graphics load being offloaded onto your cpu
[12:05] <steven> I have bad experience with gpus and linux ikonia, didnt catch up the last few years but in the past it always broke my OS
[12:05] <steven> no idea how things have changed
[12:06] <steven> but imma install xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
[12:06] <steven> and disable the onboard one, if the OS boots its a win
[12:06] <nunor> I find udev/xenial-updates,now 229-4ubuntu8 amd64 [installed]
[12:06] <nunor> root@braveheart:~# locate udevd
[12:06] <ikonia> nunor: so something has removed the binary outside of the package manager
[12:06] <ikonia> nunor: re-apply that package to get the binary back
[12:07] <ikonia> nunor: understand which package is depending on it
[12:07] <nunor> yes because in /sbin udevd is not existing anymore
[12:07] <debkad> asking if there is a lighty zoom tool for lubuntu ? i tried xzoom, vmg but no big success
[12:07] <ikonia> debkad: please stop asking every few minutes, try to leave it at least 15 minutes between repeating
[12:08] <debkad> ikonia: i'm asking if there is such a tool
[12:08] <steven> yeah fuck this, imma disable the onboard one and we'll maybe talk in a couple minutes again ikonia :D
[12:08] <ikonia> debkad: yes, I can read
[12:08] <ppf> nunor: what package does that belong to?
[12:08] <ikonia> steven: please don't swear
[12:08] <ikonia> debkad: please leave it 15 minutes between asking
[12:08] <steven> contextual, technically it wasnt swearing but gotcha
[12:08] <ikonia> steven: it's swearing, please don't do it
[12:09] <nunor> ppf I don't know?
[12:09] <nunor> Which command can I use to check that?
[12:09] <debkad> ikonia: why you are so mad, i'm just asking a simple question, if you readed it, there are many who didn't seen it
[12:09] <ikonia> debkad: I'm not mad, I'm asking you to please wait 15 minutes before repeating the question as you are doing it every few minutes
[12:10] <debkad> debkad: that was the second time i ask, the others was just an explaining of the situation
[12:10] <ppf> apt-file search
[12:10] <debkad> i hope you followed that
[12:10] <ioria> nunor,  dpkg -l udev    or apt-cache policy udev     you can trace the file with dpkg -S /sbin/udevd
[12:11] <ppf> it doesn't exist on my system either, and i couldn't find a package containing it. hence my question
[12:12] <ioria> ppf, i got it ... on trusty it's a link to  /lib/systemd/systemd-udevd
[12:13] <nunor> root@braveheart:/sbin# dpkg -S /sbin/udevd
[12:13] <nunor> dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /sbin/udevd
[12:15] <nunor> root@braveheart:/sbin# dpkg -l udev
[12:15] <nunor> | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
[12:15] <nunor> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[12:15] <nunor> ||/ Name                                   Version                  Architecture             Description
[12:15] <nunor> +++-[12:15] <nunor> ii  udev                                   229-4ubuntu8             amd64                    /dev/ and hotplug management daemon
[12:15] <nunor> root@braveheart:/sbin#
[12:15] <ikonia> nunor: please use a pastebin
[12:15] <debkad> wow
[12:15] <ppf> don't do that please
[12:15] <ioria> nunor,  http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/amd64/udev/filelist    it does not exist anymore that file
[12:15] <ppf> nunor: so, if /sbin/udevd is a symlink to systemd-udevd, just add it manually?
[12:16] <jair> hello all anyone that has some luck pairing a mice mx anywhere with ubuntu 16.04
[12:16] <jair> ?
[12:16] <ioria> nunor,  it was on trusty http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/amd64/udev/filelist
[12:17] <jakey3> in http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23246423/ what does the "*nat" do ?
[12:17] <jakey3> and ":POSTROUTING ACCEPT [0:0]" and "-A POSTROUTING -s 10.8.0.0/8 -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE"
[12:17] <bigbadwolf> hi
[12:19] <nunor> sorry for the long paste ..
[12:19] <Kartagis> hello. can I have help? I am having an awful low fps issue and tried many things. none of them worked. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23246488/ is what /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p says
[12:19] <debkad> !pastebin | nunor
[12:20] <ikonia> Kartagis: it's a vm
[12:20] <ikonia> Kartagis: it's a software generated video card
[12:20] <nunor> yes
[12:20] <Kartagis> what? I'm absolutely not running ubuntu in a vm
[12:21] <ikonia> really, it's listing the vendor string as vmware
[12:21] <nunor> was on when I was on trusty error appear after the upgrade to xeniual
[12:21] <ikonia> OpenGL vendor string:   VMware, Inc.
[12:21] <Kartagis> that struck me tooo
[12:21] <Kartagis> *too
[12:22] <ikonia> Kartagis: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=175164
[12:22] <ikonia> Kartagis: it's basically the software tag for GL, it's not using the hardware
[12:22] <Kartagis> I'm connected to my lapotop via teamviewer. would that explain why?
[12:22] <ikonia> vmware is missleading, but it appears to be vmware who created it
[12:22] <ikonia> (I'd assume for use with vmware)
[12:22] <ikonia> Kartagis: accessing over the network won't help as each draw has to go over the network
[12:23] <debkad> 15 minutes passed, question: asking if there is a lighty zoom tool for lubuntu ? i tried xzoom, vmg but no big success
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:24] <debkad> hi BluesKaj
[12:24] <BluesKaj> hi debkad
[12:26] <Yorno> Right so I have a question that I can't get any answers anywhere on the internet. I'm VERY new to linux and downloaded the latest version of Ubuntu, installed it on my Advent Tacto netbook. It had Windows 8.1 on previously and the touchpad was working.The touchscreen is working with Ubuntu but not the touchpad. Any ideas/suggestions for a beginner?
[12:27] <Yorno> It'ss driving me nuts because I just want to get on with my web development, not fuck about installing things for my distro :/
[12:27] <jair> hello all I am getting this error while trying to pair a brand new mice logitech MX anywhere 2: http://paste.debian.net/843090/
[12:27] <debkad> Yorno: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[12:28] <steven> ikonia: disabled the discrete one since I wasnt able to disable the onboard one, we'll see how things work out
[12:28] <steven> thanks for your help tho!
[12:28] <ikonia> steven: no problem
[12:29] <jair> I am also getting this output: http://paste.debian.net/843104/
[12:29] <Kartagis> adding myself to the video group didn't help :(
[12:29] <ikonia> Kartagis: no, but you can work it thorugh, now you understand it's software drawing
[12:31] <Yorno> debkad: I dont see how that's going to help. There's no preferences options for anything in that wiki page
[12:31] <ikonia> jair: that looks like debian
[12:31] <ikonia> jair: are you using ubuntu or debian
[12:32] <debkad> Yorno: that was about touchpad, how it work and how to configure, and that link is an ubuntu wiki
[12:32] <Yorno> debkad: That doesn't help me at all.
[12:32] <debkad> ok
[12:32] <Yorno> debkad: I'm looking at how to make my touchpad work. Not anything about the already-working touchscreen
[12:33] <th0r> Yorno, there used to be a command line package, synclient, that did all sorts of things for the touchpad. You might see if it is still in the repos
[12:34] <debkad> Yorno: may be someone else will help you ( the link have the troubleshooting if it wasn't working anyway )
[12:34] <debkad> th0r: yeah it is mentionned on the link i gave him ( synclient -m 100 from the link )
[12:35] <Yorno> th0r: I'm on ubuntu software thingy, there's a synaptic package manager
[12:36] <th0r> Yorno, I don't deal with thingys. There might also be a command line program that will help you, if you are willing to take a look
[12:36] <Yorno> th0r: I just want my fucking touchpad to work :'(
[12:37] <Yorno> th0r: Wireless works, a touchscreen works, but a touchpad wont? What's that about?
[12:37] <th0r> Yorno, don't know...and don't respond well to attitude. I'm done
[12:38] <andywork> hey does someone have the new xps 13 (model no: 9360), and know how well it works with ubuntu?
[12:38] <chen_> hello
[12:38] <debkad> anyway returning to my question about any lighty zoom tool for lubuntu, tried xzoom, vmg , xzoom is ugly on zooming and not handy on passing arguments, vmg is not an official ubuntu soft and it support zooming on text only, it is a little better than xzoom but both not the app i want to use, the xfce >4.11 have that ability, i wonder if there is something similar
[12:40] <debkad> thanks in advance
[12:40] <ducasse> Yorno: there are a couple of threads about it, but no solutions.
[12:40] <Yorno> ducasse: This^
[12:41] <Yorno> ducasse: I've installed Cub Linux, Fedora and Ubuntu and it's the same thing: Touchscreen works, keyboard, external usb mouse and wireless all work. Just not the touchpad :'(
[12:41] <ducasse> Yorno: which i'm guessing means 'custom hardware with no linux driver'.
[12:42] <Yorno> ducasse: So you reckon I'll need some drivers installed via terminal or it's just not gonna work at all?
[12:42] <ducasse> Yorno: the latter, most likely.
[12:42] <Yorno> ducasse: Back to windows 8.1? :/
[12:43] <jakey3> what does ". ./etc" mean?
[12:43] <ppf> . is shorthand for source
[12:43] <jakey3> what does ". ./foo" mean?
[12:43] <debkad> o_o
[12:43] <jakey3> source being ?
[12:44] <debkad> jakey3: best to ask in #bash
[12:44] <ppf> a builtin in several shells
[12:44] <ducasse> jakey3: 'help source'
[12:44] <ppf> it runs a script inside the running shell
[12:44] <jakey3> ah ok
[12:46] <jakey3> "Execute commands from a file in the current shell." as opposed to ?
[12:48] <k1l_> jakey3: from PATH
[12:48] <akik> jakey3: if you have some setup script that needs to change your current shell
[12:51] <fisbrlgish> Hello, is there still a way to install Ubuntu alongside a Windows install for 16.04 LTS or do I have to do the partitioning manually now? I couldn't find the option in the installer
[12:51] <ducasse> jakey3: say you edit your .bashrc and want to apply those changes to your current shell - then you source it.
[12:51] <jakey3> ok thanks for the info
[12:54] <ChetManly> holy sweet fudge
[12:55] <ChetManly> printers ^&*^&*(@^)*($*@+($*
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> ChetManly: how can we help you?
[12:55] <ChetManly> you know hplip? is there equal for samsung?
[12:56] <ducasse> ChetManly: many printer manufacturer have driver packages, dunno about samsung.
[12:57] <ChetManly> my color laser printer has a driver but but I suspect it only using cups
[12:59] <ChetManly> thing is the first time I installed it only printed test page, then wouldnt respond to print job, went to windows to diagnose, that told me everything was empty...
[13:00] <ducasse> ChetManly: have you looked up your printer on opennprinting.org?
[13:00] <ChetManly> shook cartridges reinstalled, worked on windows, works on linux but has no level indicator any more but did in buntu the first time
[13:01] <ChetManly> super weird 3 hours I spent...
[13:01] <ducasse> ChetManly: you should be asked which driver to use when you set up the printer.
[13:02] <ChetManly> does that site have a hardware list
[13:03] <ducasse> ChetManly: it lists which drivers works best for a wide variety of printers.
[13:11] <ducasse> ChetManly: did you find your model?
[13:14] <backbox> Hello
[13:14] <ChetManly> ducasse: no
[13:16] <maret> Hi I am using 16.04 Ubuntu gnome with US English layout but pressing keyboard button for ']' doesn't work pressing shift plus the key does produce '}'. I did not change anything about the layout and I have same problem with the same key on different keyboard layout.
[13:16] <ChetManly> samsung c410w
[13:17] <\9> maret: are you sure that the keyboard isn't physically damaged?
[13:17] <maret> yes as I've mentioned key plus shift works without problem
[13:18] <goudkov> on 16.04, it looks like when switching keyword language (i use two shift keys), i need to release both keys. in the past, it would switch on key down. is there a way to change it? i hate having to release both keys.
[13:19] <maret> btw I am using logitech k360 and I didn't install anything extra it worked out of the box and it is for example recognized by power settings.
[13:22] <uzrnm> How do i reinstall the iwlwifi module on Ubuntu?
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> uzrnm: wich chipset?
[13:24] <uzrnm> lotuspsychje:How do i inspect that?
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> uzrnm: sudo lshw -C network
[13:26] <uzrnm> lotuspsychje:There is no info about that
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> uzrnm: if you have a wifi card, it has a chipset
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> uzrnm: brand and type of the wifi card model?
[13:27] <uzrnm> lotuspsychje:I am fully aware of that, but there is no info for the chipset, using the command you have referred to
[13:28] <uzrnm> lotuspsychje:Centrino Advanced-N 6200
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> uzrnm: ok and at the bottom, does it mention driver=...?
[13:28] <debkad> integrated wifi or usb?
[13:29] <uzrnm> debkad:Integrated
[13:29] <uzrnm> lotuspsychje: driver=iwlwifi    driverversion=4.4.0-38-generic    firmware=9.221.4.1 build 25532
[13:30] <debkad> uzrnm: lspci and see the network part
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> uzrnm: ok so driver module is loaded, does your wifi not work properly?
[13:32] <uzrnm> lotuspsychje:Yes, something happened 3-4 days ago, i won't get the full bandwidth using Wi-Fi. It is shown by using speedtest (getting 20 Mbps instead of 50 Mbps), but also the regular browsing seems sluggish. However, i get the full bandwidth using LAN. That's why i want to re-install the iwlwifi module, but don't know how to do that.
[13:32] <debkad> ah it is working just not properly i see
[13:33] <uzrnm> debkad:Yes
[13:33] <uzrnm> The speedtest behavior is something like there is a capping of some kind applied.
[13:33] <debkad> uzrnm: it was working on the previous kernels?
[13:34] <uzrnm> debkad:It was working fine before, and i did not make any changes / upgrades / updates
[13:35] <debkad> uzrnm: when you reboot, try pick the advanced from grub menu and try another kernel ( for example 3.19 ) and see if that make it working better
[13:36] <debkad> as a test
[13:37] <ChetManly> ducasse: http://pastebin.com/UKe4w3Td
[13:38] <uzrnm> debkad:I will, thanks
[13:41] <transhuman> hi I am getting syntax redirection unexpected on this init.d script (Ideally I would like to get rid of the redirection but when I do I get syntax error ) unexpected anyone know what group to go to figure out these problems?  http://paste.debian.net/843147/
[13:42] <ikonia> transhuman: what version of ubuntu
[13:42] <transhuman> 16.04
[13:42] <ikonia> transhuman: not going to work then
[13:42] <ikonia> 16.04 uses systemd and unit files
[13:43] <Zorkel> Hi, How can I successfully make a bootable uefi image of ubuntu 16.04.1 desktop. When I create it using rufus I get the message filesystem doesn't handle symbolic links and I seem to fail to get the install/live medium so I can dualboot with windows 8.1 x64
[13:43] <ikonia> you also appear to have html in it
[13:43] <transhuman> is there a doc on this topic
[13:43] <ikonia> transhuman: google systemd
[13:43] <transhuman> ok
[13:43] <de-facto> you have html instead if case statement in bash script
[13:43] <ducasse> ChetManly: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2254038
[13:44] <transhuman> well its not my script someone made it to run aria2 I just wanted to tweak it without the spam
[13:44] <ChetManly> ducasse: been  there already
[13:44] <patcable> where's a good place for me to see if new openssl packages have been released in response to the latest round of cves?
[13:45] <ducasse> ChetManly: no other suggestions, sorry.
[13:45] <patcable> i dont see anything in the package changelog for openssl
[13:45] <ChetManly> ty
[13:45] <patcable> (for the latest ones, got the ones from earlier last week)
[13:45] <ikonia> patcable: look in the ubuntu repo at the version and change og on it
[13:45] <patcable> yeah; that's what I did. I wasnt sure if there were other sources of "we're working on a patch for x" - perhaps launchpad
[13:45] <Pici> patcable: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3087-2/
[13:46] <patcable> ah perfect
[13:46] <Pici> patcable: You can also plug the CVE#s into http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/ to see the actual statuses from the security team.
[13:46] <patcable> ah cool
[13:46] <patcable> thanks!
[13:46] <de-facto> transhuman wiki.bash-hackers.org/syntax/ccmd/case
[13:47] <dell> hi
[13:47] <popey> dell: hello
[13:48] <steven> ikonia so it didnt help, so I installed amdpgu and as expected, everything broke :D
[13:48] <dell> i can run virtualbox
[13:48] <steven> now I can't login into unity anymore :)
[13:48] <ikonia> steven: so the first thing is a.) your card model - what is the support on it in linux
[13:48] <k1l_> dell: yes
[13:48] <ikonia> steven: then the second question b.) what does it need to get that support
[13:48] <steven> lightdm simply restarts on every attempt
[13:48] <dell> but when i run genymotion i get error vittualization engine not found
[13:49] <dell> loading plugin aborted
[13:49] <dell> whats problem ?
[13:49] <uzrnm> debkad:There wasn't 3.19 kernel as an option, but i've tried with 4.4.0-36-generic and 4.4.0-31-generic, and it was the same as before.
[13:49] <steven> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Mars XTX [Radeon HD 8790M]
[13:49] <steven> ikonia:
[13:49] <steven> ^ thats the one in question, good thing i3 works
[13:49] <ikonia> so you need to resarch that device
[13:50] <dell> sudo /sbin/rcvboxdrv setup
[13:50] <dell> command not found
[13:50] <de-facto> transhuman so replace the line with wallmart html wirh        case $1 in
[13:50] <ducasse> uzrnm: some intel wifi chips need a little tweaking to work optimally, have you googled your model number?
[13:51] <debkad> uzrnm: i see, that was a suggestion, no idea how to fix, may be upgrading to 16.04 , not sure if that can make it working better
[13:52] <dell> it is version 4 how can i install version 5
[13:55] <dell> this question is strange?
[13:56] <Keydns> i used to be named dell too
[13:57] <uzrnm> debkad:I am on 16.04 already
[13:57] <Guest85315> dose anyone know if there are any plans for fix the HDMI video in 16.04 or future releases?
[13:57] <uzrnm> ducasse:Yup, but the thing is that it was working fine. However, anyone knows how can i re-install the iwlwifi module?
[13:58] <Keydns> password
[13:58] <ducasse> uzrnm: it comes with the kernel
[13:59] <uzrnm> ducasse:That implies that in order to reinstall it, would have to re-install the whole kernel?
[14:00] <ducasse> uzrnm: yes, but you've already tried two kernel versions and thus two different modules.
[14:02] <uzrnm> ducasse:Yup. Do yo have anything in mind that could cause this?
[14:02] <Guest85315> dose anyone know if there are any plans for fix the HDMI video in 16.04 or future releases?
[14:04] <Night_Fury> must be a lot of people AFK  or asleep at the keys
[14:05] <BluesKaj> Night_Fury, that depends mostly on you graphics driver and your hdmi connection
[14:05] <k1l_> Night_Fury: in general there is not "that" hdmi is not working, thing. that depends on your exact hardware and setup
[14:05] <k1l_> dell: what ubuntu is it?
[14:06] <dell> k1l_, 14.04
[14:06] <dell> i have downloaded virtualbox5.1
[14:06] <k1l_> dell: and while searching for that error i see a lot of users having issues with genymotion and needed to change the network settings of virtuabox to make it work
[14:06] <Night_Fury> well,...Ive got the rx480 straight out to my 32 inch tv,....Ive used the tv for several years with an older ATI thru the vga,...but when the rx come out, well i lost video all together .
[14:07] <madrid> hola
[14:07] <ducasse> uzrnm: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2041403 ?
[14:07] <dell> k1l_, you mean i should change interface ?
[14:08] <dell> k1l_, what should i do exactly ?
[14:09] <dell> when i open virtual box i cant see that the setting button is active
[14:09] <k1l_> dell: see this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/32187024/geny-motion-virtualization-engine-not-found-error
[14:10] <skinux> If I remove Apache2 package will it remove all associated/dependency packages too?
[14:11] <punkoivan> yep
[14:11] <ducasse> skinux: autoremove afterwards will
[14:11] <skinux> My config got screwed up, so I want to completely remove apache and reinstall it.
[14:11] <ducasse> skinux: then purge, not remove. remove will keep config files.
[14:11] <punkoivan> Use purge]
[14:12] <skinux> Will it remove all the config files too or just the binaries?
[14:12] <ppf> use reinstall and force it to reinstall the configs
[14:12] <ppf> sudo apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" install --reinstall
[14:13] <jsparks> Hi php -v is outputing some strange error.... Failed loading /usr/lib/php/20151012/opcache.so:  /usr/lib/php/20151012/opcache.so: undefined symbol: zend_is_smart_branch
[14:14] <jsparks> what might be this?
[14:15] <rexwin_> how to . Update to latest security patches in ubuntu?
[14:16] <jsparks> rexwin_ apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[14:16] <dell> k1l_, i did what was in that link
[14:16] <dell> same error again
[14:16] <Na3iL> dell, what was your problem? with vbox?
[14:17] <k1l_> rexwin_: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[14:17] <k1l_> dell: you can still load the version 5 from the virtualbox website
[14:18] <dell> Na3iL, i installed genymotion when i run genymotion i see that virtualization engine not found
[14:18] <dell> Na3iL, while i can run virtualbox
[14:18] <dell> k1l_, i downloaded virtualbox5.1 and installed that
[14:19] <dell> it was a .deb
[14:19] <Na3iL> dell, can you try that : sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[14:19] <skinux> I've run into a problem https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/e4bb86568bccc708060463aeaaa0e9d7
[14:20] <punkoivan> is it possible using webex with *Buntu 64 bit?
[14:20] <punkoivan> all manuals seems doesn't working for me :(
[14:20] <dell> Na3iL, vboxdrv.sh: Building VirtualBox kernel modules.
[14:20] <dell> vboxdrv.sh: Starting VirtualBox services.
[14:20] <dell> Na3iL, same error yet
[14:22] <Na3iL> werid what version of vbox you are using?
[14:22] <dell> i am using 5.1
[14:23] <dell> i get error when genymotion is loading plugins \
[14:23] <Na3iL> can you restart your virtualbox
[14:24] <dell> Na3iL, what do you mean ?
[14:24] <skinux> Why the hell is it trying to downgrade from 10.0 to 5.7? https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/e4bb86568bccc708060463aeaaa0e9d7
[14:25] <dell> Na3iL, i just open it with virtualbox command in terminal
[14:25] <Na3iL> yep dell try to restart it : sudo /Library/StartupItems/VirtualBox/VirtualBox restart
[14:26] <dell> sudo: /Library/StartupItems/VirtualBox/VirtualBox: command not found
[14:27] <Na3iL> sorry dell I remembered my command when I tried genymotion in my androind
[14:27] <Na3iL> try to reinstall the virtualbox-dkms
[14:27] <Na3iL> sudo apt-get --reinstall install virtualbox-dkms
[14:28] <dell> Na3iL, it solved
[14:28] <skinux> Damn it. Now it won't let me remove or install mariadb or mysql
[14:28] <dell> i removed vboxnet in network of virtualbox
[14:28] <hirano> 1444
[14:29] <Na3iL> that's cool dell
[14:29] <dell> Na3iL, i get error again in your opinion?
[14:30] <dell> i am adding google nexus to it
[14:31] <skinux> Aha! Just had to add a couple packages to purge command and it went through.
[14:31] <Na3iL> no I don't think so, if you have encountered any problem let us know
[14:31] <dell> okay
[14:38] <dell> Na3iL, i added googlenexus but same error when i start it
[14:38] <dell> what should i do  ?
[14:47] <Guest67506> reformat/reinstall
[14:47] <FinalX> hmm, I'm trying to create an image to clone to multiple kvm things and virtualboxes; but the network interfaces aren't getting eth* names. persistent files with hardcoded devices names are not going to help.. anyone know what I need to pass to the kernel? net.ifnames=0 doesn't seem to help? no persistent rules file either.
[14:47] <FinalX> (16.04)
[14:48] <BIT_MAN> what are you talking about?
[14:49] <BIT_MAN> this is my first time to login
[14:50] <BIT_MAN> what is the use of xchat?
[14:51] <BIT_MAN> leaving
[14:51] <Pici> er, okay.
[14:51] <FinalX> ..yeah, that
[14:53] <Pici> FinalX: I could type this all out, but this seems to be what I was going to say anyway: http://askubuntu.com/questions/628217/use-of-predictable-network-interface-names-with-alternate-kernels
[14:57] <burak> hey
[14:59] <FinalX> Pici: yeah, was reading that too. I just added net.ifnames=0 biosdevnames=0 to /etc/default/grub and update-grub/install-grub, and now it seems to work fine :)
[14:59] <FinalX> think I forgot to do an update-grub before my previous reboot, however
[15:06] <alexsson> helllllooooo
[15:09] <jakey3> How an environment which does one thing, can be considered a
[15:09] <jakey3> microservice?
[15:12] <nacc> jakey3: how is that an ubuntu support question? maybe ##linux or #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:18] <jakey3> ok
[15:19] <jakey3> can  i limit swap usage on my ubuntu 14.04 with ulimit?
[15:21] <nacc> jakey3: no, I don't think so
[15:21] <ducasse> jakey3: read up on the vm.swappiness sysctl, might be what you want.
[15:21] <nacc> or use cgroups
[15:23] <melray_> Hey everyone I want to make sure I understand the difference between forward and reverse dns. The way I understand it if I type host mail.<mydomain>.org that would be an example of forward dns and the opposite would be host <static ip> and it should return mail.<mydomain>.org. Do I have it right or am I backwards?
[15:25] <nitr0x> forward converts the host into ip
[15:25] <nitr0x> rather
[15:28] <jakey3> thanks
[15:41] <freelancerbob> hi
[15:41] <freelancerbob> few days ago i was here and i had problem with my external HDD, who was here ?
[15:42] <freelancerbob> can i find history of this chat somewhere ?
[15:43] <Surendil> freelancerbob, check your logs
[15:43] <nacc> !logs | freelancerbob
[15:49] <ro_> hi
[15:54] <freelancerbob> tomreyn: hi
[15:58] <rip_harambe_2016> Are we gonna have that unity 8 session in 16.10 or Not???
[15:59] <nacc> rip_harambe_2016: #ubuntu+1 for that question
[16:00] <ubuntu900> Hey guys, im trying to make a hello world kernel module, but am getting the following errors. make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.19.0-64-generic'  make[2]: *** No rule to make target `arch/x86/syscalls/syscall_32.tbl', needed by `arch/x86/syscalls/../include/generated/asm/syscalls_32.h'.  Stop.  Any advice?
[16:01] <freelancerbob> how to use ddrescue ? i have damaged hdd and i want make image
[16:04] <Guest67506> ubuntu900: I have a hello world kernel module and it works
[16:04] <Guest67506> I just tried it out
[16:04] <AlphaOmega> is there an OT channel?
[16:05] <mcphail> !ot | AlphaOmega
[16:05] <ducasse> !recover | freelancerbob
[16:06] <Guest67506> ubuntu900: how does your Makefile look like?
[16:06] <EriC^> freelancerbob: http://www.forensicswiki.org/wiki/Ddrescue
[16:07] <ubuntu900> ubuntu900: Here it is, thanks for the reply. :) http://pastebin.com/Eiwkr7s5
[16:08] <ubuntu900> whoops
[16:08] <ubuntu900> @Guest67506
[16:08] <freelancerbob> EriC^: ddrescue /dev/sda /dev/sdb       it is enough ?
[16:08] <freelancerbob> EriC^: u just make image before i try to recover
[16:08] <EriC^> freelancerbob: no, there are 3 consecutive commands to run, check the wiki link
[16:09] <EriC^> a more general command if you dont have time is ddrescue -d -r3 /dev/sda sda.image sda.logfile
[16:09] <EriC^> freelancerbob: ^
[16:10] <Guest67506> ubuntu900: I'm using this one: http://dpaste.com/0YAJQ0N
[16:10] <EriC^> freelancerbob: this is for gddrescue package
[16:10] <Guest67506> you will need to adjust the hello.o thing at the top to use the name you use
[16:14] <ubuntu900> Guest7506: That worked : o, im curious as to what was wrong with my version.
[16:15] <kuldeep> why is my shell script being opened by ubuntu software center. the script actually run an executable with LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[16:16] <nacc> kuldeep: i think we'd need more details to be able to help
[16:16] <Guest67506> ubuntu900: not sure but glad it worked 😺. maybe it's the missing
[16:16] <Guest67506> PWD := $(shell pwd)
[16:16] <kuldeep> i expect the script to be executed with executable path from   "#!/bin/sh"
[16:17] <freelancerbob> EriC^:  ddrescue -d -r3 /dev/sda /dev/sdb log.txt ?
[16:17] <acresearch> hello people. there is a issue in the ubuntu terminal: if you have a directory with files named 1-500 and you list them with ls -l you will not get an ordered list, you will get this: https://da.gd/0iwnF       why? is there a way to get a properly ordered list?
[16:17] <nacc> kuldeep: so you run ./script and it opens the software center?
[16:17] <kuldeep> nacc, no when i "double click" it
[16:17] <Guest67506> acresearch: try ls | sort -n
[16:18] <kuldeep> when i "double click" it, it open the software center. i expect the script to be executed in shell and the actual program run
[16:18] <nacc> acresearch: you may also want to look at -v (natural sort)
[16:19] <acresearch> nacc: ls -v ?
[16:19] <nacc> acresearch: yes
[16:19] <ducasse> kuldeep: is +x set?
[16:19] <nacc> kuldeep: is your script marked as executable?
[16:19] <kuldeep> nacc, .sh afaik been always shell script. how come software center reclaimed it?  (due to ".sh" based packages being distributed?)
[16:19] <nacc> kuldeep: extensions have no meaning in linux
[16:19] <kuldeep> ducasse, nacc yes.    in shell when i do "./the-script.sh" it run fine
[16:19] <acresearch> nacc: Guest67506 thanks :-)
[16:20] <nacc> acresearch: np
[16:20] <kuldeep> "#!/bin/sh" isnt respected.
[16:20] <kuldeep> software center isnt a shell
[16:20] <anddam> can I different proxy settings for different network connections?
[16:21] <OerHeks> kuldeep, running "./the-script.sh"  or clicking the script are 2 different things
[16:21] <ahn0st> hello
[16:21] <EriC^> freelancerbob: http://www.kossboss.com/linux---how-to-clone-a-disk-with-ddrescue---dnu-ddrescue-also-known-as-gddrescue---the-better-ddrescue-tool
[16:21] <ahn0st> how do i delete my wifi driver
[16:21] <ahn0st> its WLS3 i want WLAN0
[16:21] <Guest67506> you unload the module
[16:21] <nacc> ahn0st: do you mean your wifi device? why do you care what it's named?
[16:22] <kuldeep> OerHeks, why dont text files being opened by software center then?
[16:22] <mmmmmmm> how to fix this bash: /sbin/init: No such file or directory Ubuntu 16.04
[16:22] <kuldeep> i see a huge pitfall here. any good reason of opening my shell script on software center
[16:22] <ahn0st> nacc because when I spoof WLS3 it autmaticaly changes to the original mac, Versurs WLAN0 stays spoofed
[16:23] <kuldeep> maybe to prevent accedental execution of scripts?
[16:23] <akik> ahn0st: add the kernel parameter net.ifnames=0 to /etc/default/grub and run update-grub
[16:23] <ahn0st> akik, yikes. I have no idea how to.
[16:24] <EriC^> ahn0st: sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[16:24] <FinalX> heh, i just had the exact same thing.
[16:24] <EriC^> opens a text editor, nano
[16:24] <kuldeep> OerHeks, "running "./the-script.sh"  or clicking the script are 2 different things"  reason please
[16:24] <FinalX> akik: for example, my line is now: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="console=tty0 console=ttyS0,115200n8 net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0"
[16:24] <akik> ahn0st: it's just a new way to name the interfaces. nothing breaks if you use the old or the new way
[16:24] <FinalX> eh, ahn0st ^
[16:25] <kuldeep> why are they different. i expect to execute the script just like binaries are handled
[16:25] <Guest67506> a script is not a binary!
[16:25] <akik> FinalX: what does biosdevname=0 do?
[16:25] <FinalX> also messes with device names (dell kinda thing)
[16:26] <kuldeep> Guest62386, but i gave the program that execute it via hash bang "#/bin/sh"
[16:26] <kuldeep> so, shouldnt i expect it to be executed?
[16:26] <FinalX> chmod 700 on it?
[16:26] <ioria> kuldeep, file script.sh     what it says ?
[16:26] <FinalX> binaries and scripts are not much different in that sense, they all require the execute bit
[16:27] <ahn0st> akik, okay i have nano opened but where do i add "net.ifnames=0" ?
[16:27] <kuldeep> Ioangogo, "box0-studio.sh: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable"
[16:27] <kuldeep> sheh
[16:27] <kuldeep> ioria, "box0-studio.sh: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable"
[16:27] <akik> ahn0st: on the line which starts GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[16:27] <mmmmmmm> How to fix this : bash: /sbin/init: No such file or directory (Ubuntu 16.04)
[16:28] <Guest67506> a binary is executed by OS's runtime while a script by a interpreter
[16:28] <FinalX> mmmmmmm: that comes out of the package systemd-sysv
[16:28] <nacc> kuldeep: i'm 99% sure it's because the gui has a setting like "open with" and it's currently set to ubuntu software center
[16:28] <FinalX> mmmmmmm: so you might have to (re)install that
[16:28] <mmmmmmm> Okay
[16:28] <ioria> kuldeep, nautilus -> preferences -> behavior -> executable text file ?
[16:28] <FinalX> apt-get install --reinstall systemd-sysv
[16:28] <kuldeep> Guest62386, yes, but when i say "+x" i expect it to be executed on double click
[16:28] <ahn0st> akik, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0" ?
[16:29] <akik> ahn0st: that's not the line i said but maybe it could work
[16:29] <kuldeep> nacc, yes, but problem is it is the default
[16:30] <ioria> kuldeep, check above my last msg, and try xdg-open script.sh
[16:30] <nacc> kuldeep: i don't know why anyone would try to execute a shell script like this, but that's besides the point, i think
[16:30] <ahn0st> akik, lol sorry i see it. it has = "quiet splash"
[16:30] <kuldeep> nacc, i would, i made it executable, now i want to execute it via double click.
[16:31] <akik> ahn0st: those two words control what is shown on the screen when linux boots
[16:31] <kuldeep> that is fine if someone say that it could introduce security problem. but instead of shell script one can actually do that with a binary executable
[16:31] <nacc> kuldeep: i don't think anyone is saying security problem
[16:31] <nacc> kuldeep: only you have said that so far
[16:31] <ahn0st> akik, so how does this help the mac address stay spoofed?
[16:32] <mmmmmmm> @FinalX it is working, thy
[16:32] <mmmmmmm> *thx
[16:32] <akik> ahn0st: don't know anything about spoofing but it'll bring back the wlan0 device name
[16:33] <nacc> kuldeep: in my case, my default application for shell script is 'vim' (well, gvim)
[16:33] <kuldeep> nacc, in my case it is geany (editor)
[16:33] <zot> zot5
[16:33] <ahn0st> akik, how did one obatain such knowledge?
[16:33] <nacc> kuldeep: and you're saying it opens software center instead of geany?
[16:34] <akik> ahn0st: reading, browsing, searching the internet
[16:34] <kuldeep> nacc, in Arch, it open in Geany, on my brother [x]ubuntu, it open in software center.
[16:34] <kuldeep> nacc, sorry for the confusion
[16:34] <ioria> kuldeep, not using nautilus then....
[16:35] <ahn0st> akik, $ sudo macchanger -s wlan0 [ERROR] Set device name: No such device
[16:35] <ahn0st> akik, must one reboot?
[16:36] <genii> ahn0st: I also explained to you how to revert this interface naming behaviour in he #lubuntu channel
[16:36] <kuldeep> ioria, i have nautilus installed to, (on Arch) it open in Geany
[16:36] <ioria> kuldeep, on xubuntu i mean
[16:36] <kuldeep> (if that can help)
[16:36] <nacc> ahn0st: and yes one must reboot, for kernel optoins to take effect
[16:36] <ahn0st> genii, just read it
[16:37] <ahn0st> ok brb, thanks guys.
[16:37] <ioria> kuldeep, xubuntu uses thunar iirc
[16:37] <kuldeep> ioria, yes
[16:38] <Zteam> Hi all!
[16:38] <ioria> kuldeep, don't remember the setting for double-click on thunar ... but you can make another .sh for test and see how it opens
[16:39] <kuldeep> ioria, you mean  "edit" -> custom action ?
[16:40] <ioria> kuldeep, as i said , i don't remember the setting on thunar :þ
[16:43] <Zteam> I'm having some serious issues installing Ubuntu 16.04 from liveUSB, right then I'm typing the ubuntu installer randomly stops reading from my keyboard, if I move to another window it input the text correctly again
[16:43] <Zteam> is this ACPCI related or something?
[16:44] <Zteam> It's quite impossible to choose a password then this happens
[16:44] <Zteam> or even using the terminal
[16:45] <linux_> ky
[16:45] <linux_> hello
[16:45] <Zteam> linux_, hi there penguin
[16:45] <ahn0st> okay the device is back to wlan0, but the mac address changes back automatically
[16:48] <kuldeep> thanks ioria nacc OerHeks ducasse . seems like im just expecting that is not possible or not the default setting.
[16:49] <ioria> kuldeep, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=194464
[16:49] <kuldeep> but i still think, clicking a shell script which has executable marked should be executed
[16:49] <ubuntunewbie> hi, i just installed ubuntu a few days ago
[16:50] <ubuntunewbie> can someone explain to me the procedure for playing games on steam
[16:50] <ubuntunewbie> on ubuntu?
[16:50] <Zteam> ubuntunewbie, how do you mean?
[16:50] <ubuntunewbie> what do i need to do to make sure steam and the games work?
[16:50] <ioria> kuldeep, it can be done, but depends on your filemanager
[16:51] <ubuntunewbie> i read some stuff and encountered people having problems
[16:51] <Zteam> ubuntunewbie, you can download games right as you would with windows, but you would of course be limited to games that is available for Linux
[16:51] <kuldeep> ioria, something that i expected by default need a workaround ..... :P
[16:52] <wadadli> Zteam: and what games are these?
[16:52] <ioria> kuldeep, you can read why in the link i posted
[16:52] <ubuntunewbie> Zteam: i know that, but i am talking about the drivers
[16:52] <kuldeep> ioria, hum, looking for the specific reason. thanks for the link
[16:52] <ubuntunewbie> is it only needed to select the proprietary driver in the additional drivers program?
[16:53] <Zteam> ubuntunewbie, you need to get the official driver for video card (please be a little more specific)
[16:53] <TheBestHackerInT> Hello friends!!
[16:53] <ioria> kuldeep, what version of thunar your bro is running ?
[16:54] <kuldeep> ioria, 1.6.10
[16:54] <TheBestHackerInT> Bye friends!!
[16:54] <kuldeep> ioria, "I have some users requesting a way to always have them opened in an editor, even when they are executables"
[16:55] <kuldeep> ioria, currently "When the file is executable (+x) double clicking on the scripts runs it, while when it's not, double-clicking on it opens it in an editor.
[16:55] <kuldeep> "
[16:55] <kuldeep> "currently
[16:55] <Zteam> ubuntunewbie, usually you can  get that driver by searching in dash (ubuntu start menu) for drivers then you should find additional drivers, and in most cases that tool helps you to install the right driver :-)
[16:56] <ioria> kuldeep, sure, but it depends on your filemanager settings
[16:56] <kuldeep> ioria, so, odd but just because someone said that they need something, they got it. other have to eat the same. even if they dislike the change
[16:56] <Zteam> wadadli, well you can browse a list of games available for linux right here: http://store.steampowered.com/browse/linux/
[16:56] <Zteam> wadadli, there is plenty to choose from
[16:57] <kuldeep> ioria, in sub-conciously remeber the interface so, i though why isnt it working. change made on "2015-02-28"
[16:57] <kuldeep> sorry "Last modified: 2015-02-28 13:41:44 CET"
[16:57] <eslamLinuXer> Running on UBUNTU 15.10 ZOrin 11
[16:57] <eslamLinuXer> is it dead ? :|
[16:58] <Zteam> wadadli, I just don't have enough time to list all 3000 games for you ;-)
[16:58] <Zteam> brb
[16:58] <eslamLinuXer> .-.
[16:58] <ioria> kuldeep, http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/hidden-settings   /misc-exec-shell-scripts-by-default
[16:58] <lifted> CS 1.6 is the only acceptable Linux game
[16:58] <Exec> ?
[16:58] <Exec> oh
[16:59] <nacc> eslamLinuXer: 15.10 is eol
[16:59] <kuldeep> ioria, though im (mostly) fine, i was expecting ease for "end users".
[16:59] <ioria> kuldeep, oh, i see
[16:59] <mijk> how can I extract S10E01 from: tv.show.s10e01. The file may not be called exactly that at all times.
[16:59] <eslamLinuXer> nacc  eol ??
[16:59]  * wadadli can't afford video games
[16:59] <kuldeep> ioria, you can see enduser as my brother :)  (and many other)
[17:00] <nacc> !eol | eslamLinuXer
[17:00] <ioria> kuldeep, :þ
[17:00] <eslamLinuXer> end of Life :'(
[17:00] <nacc> i also believe zorin is not ubuntu and not supported here (but i might be wrong)
[17:00] <eslamLinuXer> what should i do now ? :(
[17:00] <dax> nacc: you're correct
[17:00] <kuldeep> ioria, i cannot see "�"
[17:01] <jja2000> So ehm
[17:01] <nacc> dax: thanks
[17:01] <wadadli> kuldeep: get better fonts =P
[17:01] <kuldeep> wadadli, :)
[17:01] <jja2000> I'm trying to install (or boot at this point) ubuntu on my 32-bit efi 64-bit system tablet, but when I try to load vmlinuz.efi it says that it doesn't exist. Anyone have an idea as to what I should do to fix it?
[17:02] <jja2000> I copied the grub.cfg from the actual 64-bit image
[17:02] <eslamLinuXer> Zorin 11 is Based on Ubuntu 15.10 !
[17:02] <nacc> eslamLinuXer: doesn't matter, not supported here
[17:03] <eslamLinuXer> .-.
[17:03] <wadadli> jja2000: which bootloader are you using?
[17:04] <jja2000> wadadli, the default for ubuntu's liveiso aka grub2
[17:04] <wadadli> jja2000: also your tablet is both 32 and 64bit?
[17:04] <dax> eslamLinuXer: #ubuntu supports Ubuntu and its official flavors. "Based on Ubuntu" is irrelevant, third party people make all sorts of nonsense changes and we don't support them.
[17:04] <jja2000> Yeah it's a 32-bit efi but a 64-bit chipset
[17:05] <Keydns> i am looking for an application that can receive iphone transmissions to organizationally modify an expense document
[17:05] <nicomachus> is there a better way to do things on my home PC than SSH? Everything done through SSH with X is sooooo slowwwww. Even with the -C flag
[17:06] <wadadli> nicomachus: depends on what it is that you're trying to do
[17:06] <ub_ubuntu> ls
[17:06] <nicomachus> wadadli: GUI things
[17:06] <wadadli> ub_ubuntu: ubuntu != bash
[17:06] <wadadli> ub_ubuntu: :P
[17:06] <pauljw> nicomachus, try -Y, it doesn't use encryption and is faster
[17:06] <nicomachus> web browser, etc
[17:06] <ub_ubuntu> wadadli: Honest Mistake
[17:07] <nicomachus> pauljw: so -Y instead of -X?
[17:07] <pauljw> seems so here, mine is all in house not over the internet
[17:08] <pauljw> yeah, instead of -X
[17:08] <nicomachus> this is over external net. I have gigabit at home, but only like 45Mbps down at the office here. I'll try it with -Y
[17:10] <MadLamb> Hello, I've been using mesa drivers to play on ubuntu, but since the update from yesterday it became extremely low fps on most of the games. Any starting point suggestion?
[17:11] <wadadli> MadLamb: downgrade the driver
[17:12] <deadshot> _habnabit how to install it using pip ?
[17:12] <MadLamb> wadadli, how? :D
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> !downgrade | wadadli MadLamb
[17:12] <nicomachus> deadshot: pip install <package>
[17:12] <MadLamb> lol
[17:12] <wadadli> MonkeyDust: driver
[17:13] <wadadli> MadLamb: just find the package and install it
[17:13] <wadadli> it will most likely be in your repository
[17:13] <Zteam> wadadli, just as you know there is even plenty of free games available for linux too, both commerical games and open open source games (Xonotic, Alien Arena, Open Arena etc)
[17:13] <wadadli> find out your current version of the driver and install a version lower
[17:13] <MadLamb> wadadli, mesa-utils?
[17:14] <MadLamb> wadadli, I don't even know the package name
[17:14] <wadadli> MadLamb: again I don't know, I have alrady told you more than enough
[17:14] <MadLamb> wadadli, ok :(
[17:14] <Zteam> wadadli, and those games all happens to run on very old hardware too, without looking to ugly
[17:15] <arooni> hey folks; ive tried following; http://askubuntu.com/questions/236165/amazon-kindle-paperwhite-not-recognized ;; but my kindle still doesnt seem to be recognized on ubuntu 16.04 ;
[17:15] <wadadli> give me the output of lspci | grep VGA
[17:15] <wadadli> MadLamb:
[17:15] <nicomachus> and Xonotic is fuuuuuuuuuuun. Especially if you get into a server with hooks enabled.
[17:15] <nicomachus> check #gamingonlinux
[17:15] <wadadli> nicomachus: what do you mean hooks enabled?
[17:16] <wadadli> as in allowed to pointer manipulate?
[17:16] <nicomachus> it's a feature of the game. Grappling hooks.
[17:16] <Zteam> nicomachus, I haven't played Xonotic, but I did play really much Nexuiz once, however, I personally refuse to run onto a server with hooks
[17:17] <nicomachus> lame. not a discussion for this channel, though.
[17:19] <wadadli> Zteam: what protection do they used/
[17:19] <Zteam> nicomachus, personally I think using hooks is the lame thing to do, but I'm not really pro gamer either
[17:20] <Zteam> wadadli, protection for what? do you mean anti-cheat or copy proections or what? :-)
[17:20] <ub_ubuntu> \exit
[17:20] <wadadli> Zteam: anti-cheat
[17:21] <JuliusCeasarBR> Hello. I'm with problems to boot my Ubuntu. I can only boot by Maintenance Mode.
[17:21] <JuliusCeasarBR> How can I fix this?
[17:21] <DK2> more specific please
[17:21] <JuliusCeasarBR> My ubuntu is 16.04. I made some analysis and I guess my hardware is every thing OK
[17:21] <wadadli> Maintenance Mode?
[17:21] <wadadli> Is that Ubuntu centric or ... ?
[17:21] <DK2> maybe he means recovery mode
[17:21] <Zteam> wadadli, I really don't know but I think that was up to the server admins to solve :-)
[17:21] <JuliusCeasarBR> If I don't press shift, It stays with a black screen. It never initiates. Recovery mode I mean**
[17:22] <wadadli> Zteam: ohhh!
[17:22] <wadadli> Zteam: maybe I should pay them a visit
[17:22] <wadadli> B)
[17:22] <JuliusCeasarBR> How can I solve this?
[17:22] <JuliusCeasarBR> I guess it's something in the 'kernel'.
[17:23] <JuliusCeasarBR> I have been using linux for one year, that's first time this happen.
[17:23] <Zteam> wadadli, that being said I never experienced that as much of a problems, in big contrast to Unreal Tournament (the first one released 1999) that game was modded and cheated nearly to death
[17:24] <wadadli> Zteam: Every game is hacked.
[17:24] <wadadli> I remember back when we we're writing hacks for LoL
[17:24] <wadadli> ... before the hipsters took over
[17:24] <Zteam> wadadli, there was even aimbots that used to aim for you in UT, despite many servers tried to implented strong checks for UT
[17:24] <JuliusCeasarBR> Is there a way to downgrade my kernel?
[17:24] <DK2> JuliusCeasarBR did you try to repair grub?
[17:25] <wadadli> JuliusCeasarBR: which version of the kernel are you using?
[17:25] <Zteam> wadadli, very well I can't argue with that :-)
[17:25] <JuliusCeasarBR> DK2: I didn't try this.
[17:25] <JuliusCeasarBR> DK2: I'll try to use.
[17:25] <wadadli> Zteam: at the time riot said the game was unhackable
[17:25] <DK2> but being able to enter recovery mode should mean that grub is working fine
[17:25] <JuliusCeasarBR> 4.4
[17:25] <wadadli> how can a group of paid engineers say something so silly
[17:25] <wadadli> :P
[17:26] <Zteam> wadadli, need to fix my new computer instead but Ubuntu just refuses to work
[17:26] <JuliusCeasarBR> Linux leite-Vostro-5470 4.4.0-38-generic #57-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 6 15:42:33 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:26] <JuliusCeasarBR> wadadli: Linux leite-Vostro-5470 4.4.0-38-generic #57-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 6 15:42:33 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:27] <Zteam> wadadli, Well, I'm not going into this debate again but implementing nearly unhackable software (at least with the help of hardware) is sure possible
[17:28] <nasim> Hello Every one
[17:28] <branjoe> hey guys can i ask a question
[17:28] <nicomachus> !ask
[17:28] <wadadli> JuliusCeasarBR: yeah you should start there before touching the kernel
[17:28] <nasim> sure ask question
[17:28] <wadadli> JuliusCeasarBR: just reconfig grub
[17:28] <JuliusCeasarBR> wadadli: how can I use this?
[17:29] <Zteam> anybody can help me fix my keyboard errors with ubuntu please???
[17:29] <JuliusCeasarBR> wadadli: uhum
[17:29] <DK2> if hes able to enter the bootloader i'm not sure if reconfiguring grub will help
[17:29] <branjoe> is it possible to implement a module that can simulate wireless connection clients in the form of nat overload through a single antenna link?
[17:29] <nicomachus> Zteam: going to need more details
[17:29] <Zteam> the keyboard just stops working for me randomly
[17:29] <wadadli> JuliusCeasarBR: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB
[17:30] <wadadli> Zteam: sure, lock it in a room behind a metal door and give it no network access
[17:30] <JuliusCeasarBR> wadadli: what's strange it's look normal by the recovery mode
[17:30] <JuliusCeasarBR> Thanks!
[17:30] <wadadli> JuliusCeasarBR: what recovery mode?
[17:30] <branjoe> nobody?
[17:30] <JuliusCeasarBR> wadadli: I pressed 'shift' and I choose one old kernel to be able to turn my pc on.
[17:31] <b0s3d_> hello i am trying to follow this simple guide: http://blog.bluedrive.ro/?p=28 , but i am having troubles finding my hex string eg. 55534243123456780000000000000011062000000100000000000000000000
[17:31] <b0s3d_> usb_switchmode
[17:32] <wadadli> JuliusCeasarBR: is there a newever kernel there?
[17:32] <JuliusCeasarBR> wadadli: To be honest I don't know what happened. I don't remember which update I did. I just was watching movie yesterday, I slept and then It's with this problem.
[17:33] <JuliusCeasarBR> wadadli: how can I update my kernel? Maybe is this.
[17:35] <Zteam> nicomachus, sure, basically I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 on a newly created ubuntu live USB, my keyboard is connected via the  PS/2 port, randomly ubuntu stops reading from the keyboard for a few minutes or seconds and then functions normally, this results in that if I attempt to write my password in tthe installer password, it may become invalid, and if try to use the terminal then I can't type undisturbed there either
[17:36] <Zteam> nicomachus, I was having some acpci related issues before (it refused to wake up from sleep) so I guess I just should try more acpci related boot option as well
[17:38] <NeXTSUN> why does Ubuntu say Enter new unix passowrd.... Iisn't this linux??? I am working with?
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[17:39] <NeXTSUN> why does Ubuntu say Enter new unix passowrd.... Iisn't this linux??? I am working with?
[17:39] <bp_> identify bp999
[17:39] <bp_> ahahah
[17:39] <bp_> lol
[17:39] <branjoe> :\
[17:39] <branjoe> you fail
[17:39] <branjoe> literally
[17:39] <bp_> hahahahha
[17:39] <NeXTSUN> why does Ubuntu say Enter new unix passowrd.... Iisn't this linux??? I am working with?
[17:39] <sveinse> On 16.04 under gnome shell, how do I remove a BT device (a mouse). If I select the device, I get the status dialog with a big red "remove device" button on it. Press it and confirm the removal. Nothing. How can I delete the device manually?
[17:39] <branjoe> change your password bp_
[17:39] <branjoe> and make it more complex than that also pls
[17:40] <NeXTSUN> why does Ubuntu say Enter new unix passowrd.... Iisn't this linux??? I am working with?
[17:40] <bp_> i promise u, branjoe how can i?
[17:40] <NeXTSUN> why does Ubuntu say Enter new unix passowrd.... Iisn't this linux??? I am working with?
[17:40] <bp_> i'm soo new that i haven't tought to use a complex passw
[17:41] <branjoe> uhm
[17:41] <NeXTSUN> why does Ubuntu say Enter new unix passowrd.... Iisn't this linux??? I am working with?
[17:41] <branjoe> .msg nickserv help
[17:41] <jatt> because Enter new linux passowrd would sound retarded
[17:41] <NeXTSUN> why does unix make it not retarded
[17:41] <NeXTSUN> ubuntu is not unix
[17:41] <branjoe> wat
[17:42] <NeXTSUN> ubuntu is not unix
[17:42] <NeXTSUN> why does Ubuntu say Enter new unix passowrd.... Iisn't this linux??? I am working with?
[17:42] <branjoe> :\
[17:42] <dax> NeXTSUN: Cut it out, please.
[17:42] <jatt> jeez
[17:42] <branjoe> what is going on here
[17:42] <NeXTSUN> I want to know why
[17:42] <NeXTSUN> it is saying that
[17:42] <jatt> you can change it
[17:42] <branjoe> i cant even
[17:43] <NeXTSUN> the password message just shows how retarted opensource software is
[17:43] <sveinse> NeXTSUN: oh, please stop
[17:43] <NeXTSUN> why is it calling ubuntu unix?
[17:43] <Zteam> wadadli, well, that's not really that neccesearly at all anymore, look at the PS4 Console for example I don't know about any hacks for that, Xbox One is another example or the very famous music software
[17:43] <jatt> 🙄
[17:44] <Zteam> nicomachus, any idea? :-)
[17:45] <notososos> hello
[17:45] <notososos> what is the difference between repo and http in sources.lst?
[17:45] <branjoe> is it true that almost all devices are hackable and can have *nix installed to them?
[17:46] <nicomachus> branjoe: no. depends on hardware. but that's a question for #linux, not here.
[17:46] <branjoe> ubuntu [17:47] <nicomachus> branjoe: but this is a support channel for ubuntu, not a discussion channel.
[17:48] <silentbob> I'm having quite the situation is there someone who might be able to help?
[17:48] <nicomachus> Zteam: i'm not sure. any hints in dmesg?
[17:48] <branjoe> ah in that case you are right
[17:48] <branjoe> thanks for letting me know :)
[17:48] <Jordan_U> simbaclaws: Please as your question and if anyone thinks they can help they will chime in :)
[17:48] <simbaclaws> I have quite the situation with a laptop/tablet it's a tablet inside of a laptop and I'm trying to do some things
[17:48] <Jordan_U> *ask
[17:48] <Zteam> NeXTSUN, ubuntu is based on Linux, Linux is inspired by Unix and shares (to a large extent as least) the same design goals (Linus Torvalds basically wanted to make a free Unix system
[17:49] <simbaclaws> basically it's a medion laptop and it has a hard drive disk inside of the tablet part and a hard drive disk inside of the laptop
[17:49] <Zteam> nicomachus, I'm gonna check right now
[17:49] <simbaclaws> my idea, because it has some hardware fuse towards installing new software on it is that I can't seem to boot from a windows bootable usb which works on other computers
[17:50] <simbaclaws> so what I'm now trying to do, the system already has windows 8 installed on it and I want to install windows from within a live usb of ubuntu on the second hard disk, then I want to boot that hard disk and whipe the other disk
[17:51] <simbaclaws> so that if it fails I would have windows installed on the hard disk inside of the laptop part
[17:51] <simbaclaws> so... does anyone know how I can install windows 10 from within a live usb of ubuntu
[17:51] <Zteam> nicomachus, nothing interested found, but I'm not sure what to look for either
[17:51] <simbaclaws> it's a computer of a friend
[17:51] <nicomachus> simbaclaws: no. you need to load Windows onto the USB, not Ubuntu.
[17:51] <Jordan_U> simbaclaws: We can help you get Ubuntu booting via USB on the laptop, but this channel can't really help you with installing Windows. Try ##windows for that.
[17:52] <simbaclaws> I can't the hardware doesn't allow me to
[17:52] <Zteam> nicomachus, sudo dmesg | tail doesn't tell me anything interesting
[17:52] <simbaclaws> I can only boot a ubuntu usb
[17:52] <nicomachus> Zteam: paste it to paste.ubuntu.com and link here
[17:52] <simbaclaws> else I would get a windows boot manager failure telling me the usb is corrupt while it does start on another system
[17:53] <k1l_> simbaclaws: that really sounds like you need the help of the ##windows channel guys.
[17:53] <Zteam> nicomachus, nor does sudo dmesg | grep PS/2 or sudo dmesg | grep keyboard either
[17:53] <simbaclaws> actually all I have is ubuntu :P
[17:54] <Zteam> nicomachus, well, then I have to install hexchat and fighting with that keyboard issue yet again :-(
[17:54] <k1l_> simbaclaws: but ubuntu is not the issue here. your issue is the windows bootloader and how to get a windows usb
[17:54] <nicomachus> Zteam: why do you have to install hexchat?
[17:54] <Zteam> nicomachus, I'm using this irc client on a another computer
[17:55] <simbaclaws> my problem is that the hardware that has windows 8 installed doesn't allow for other windows usb's to install it's operating system on top of it. I can only boot ubuntu
[17:55] <simbaclaws> any windows usb doesn't boot
[17:55] <nicomachus> Zteam: just paste it on the system you're working on, then type the url into here. it'll be like 10 digits at the end of paste.ubuntu.com
[17:55] <simbaclaws> even though they work on other systems
[17:55] <Zteam> nicomachus, you are right I don't have too, my bad :-)
[17:55] <Zteam> nicomachus, I thinked wrong :p
[17:57] <simbaclaws> I'll go to the windows channel but I doubt they'll be able to help me out
[17:57] <simbaclaws> but ok
[17:57] <nicomachus> Zteam: or you can use pastebinit and skip the web browser part
[17:58] <nicomachus> simbaclaws: it sounds like you're trying to use ubuntu to hack around the problem instead of fixing the problem. but the hack-a-round probably won't even work
[18:00] <sveinse> I generally love Linux, but it can be a horrendous pain when something stops working. Like my BT mouse just has. /&%#&%" Gnome shell won't delete the device when I press delete
[18:00] <Zteam> nicomachus, yes, I know the pastebinit program really nice feature I have to say
[18:00] <branjoe> have you tried sudo
[18:01] <kuldeep> Hello, im looking for a ubuntu distribution that has matplotlib and numpy preinstalled.  (python packages)
[18:01] <kuldeep> *ubuntu flavour
[18:01] <branjoe> yum
[18:02] <Zteam> http://www.paste.ubuntu.com/23247722/
[18:02] <sveinse> kuldeep: Why does it need to be preinstalled?
[18:03] <Zteam> sorry wrong link here is the rig one : http://paste.ubuntu.com/23247722/
[18:03] <kuldeep> sveinse, i dont want to get into the headache of installing and making sure it work fine. im going for a introduction on python and electronics (STEM) to student
[18:04] <Zteam> nicomachus, here you go, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23247722/ but I just noted this is just the top of an ice mountain, there is several more issues, a none working apt for example
[18:05] <kuldeep> *an
[18:06] <kuldeep> sveinse, and most of them will be MS windows users. i will give away dvd as well after it has finished.
[18:06] <kuldeep> (actually all afaik)
[18:09] <jja2000> So I got past the vmlinuz error
[18:09] <jja2000> now
[18:09] <jja2000> next question
[18:09] <jja2000> It now says mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: invalid argument
[18:09] <jja2000> and then goes to the initramfs shell
[18:13] <daile> Hi there. I'm on Ubuntu 14.04. After putting in a new motherboard, my install no longer boots. It goes to the grub rescue screen and declares "error: unknown filesystem". I have attempted to fix this by using boot-repair, but even it doesn't recognize my SSD's filesystem. Any help would be appreciated.
[18:13] <bp_> l
[18:15] <saf> Hello. I have a new laptop with a BCM43142 wireless adapter. Everything seems to work fine on xubuntu, only the wireless adapter gives some problems. Can someone help me with this?
[18:16] <deadshot> I have only 1 drive of 1000GB where my ubuntu is installed. I want to make 1 other drive from it. How to do it ?
[18:17] <saf> @deadshot: you could use gparted
[18:17] <deadshot> Can u explain ?
[18:17] <deadshot> what to do in gparted. I am newbie
[18:18] <k1l_> !bcm43xx | saf
[18:18] <saf> gparted is a tool to partition you hard disk. If you start gparted it will show you a graphical presentation of your hard disk
[18:19] <saf> @ubottu: thanks for the link. I tried it already. And even Google wasn't my best friend in this situation
[18:19] <k1l_> deadshot: load a live usb ubuntu. then use gparted to change the partition layout
[18:19] <deadshot> can't i do it on current installed ubuntu
[18:19] <deadshot> by installing gparted
[18:19] <deadshot> ?
[18:19] <Jordan_U> deadshot: First, just to get terminology straight, what you want to do is add another partition to your drive. It's only windows where partitions are called "drives", and it causes a lot of confusion. In the *NIX world a drive is a physical device which can contain one or more partitions.
[18:19] <geirha> you can't resize a partition that is in use, hence the need to boot a live cd
[18:19] <saf> yes it's possible, but I think a live usb will work quicker
[18:19] <k1l_> deadshot: you cant change the disk while you are using that disk
[18:20] <saf> oh my bad :)
[18:20] <deadshot> Ok thanks, i will go on live cd
[18:20] <deadshot> :)
[18:21] <saf> @k1l_: what do you mean by !bcm43xx?
[18:22] <k1l_> saf: its a command to let the bot (ubottu) display some information
[18:22] <saf> thank you!
[18:22] <saf> !bcm43xx
[18:23] <saf> ah, now I get that ubotto is a bot...first time IRC
[18:23] <k1l_> bcm43.. chips are known to make trouble. so look at what is exactly happening there
[18:23] <wheredidmyircset> OK, I upgraded to 16.04.01 and now all the title bars of my windows are gone. I'm using gnome-flashback. Any ideas?
[18:23]  * k1l_ is afk now but the channel will help you
[18:24] <saf> well, it is working but only at low speed (abg), not n
[18:24] <daile> Hi there. I'm on Ubuntu 14.04. After putting in a new motherboard, my install no longer boots. It goes to the grub rescue screen and declares "error: unknown filesystem". I have attempted to fix this by using boot-repair, but even it doesn't recognize my SSD's filesystem. Any help would be appreciated.
[18:24] <saf> furthermore, sometimes it has trouble connecting to my home network after startup
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> k1l_  please don't leave now...
[18:32] <slaffe> updated to 16.04 from 14.04 when trying to start deluge-webui getting this error:
[18:32] <slaffe> [20:31:11]slaffe@scenics:/etc$ sudo start deluge
[18:32] <slaffe> start: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
[18:33] <slaffe> What is causing this?
[18:33] <sveinse> My ubuntu 16.04 bluetooth has suddenly died. hcitool dev shows nothing, bluetoothctl and scan gives "Not ready" and dmesg complains about "Direct firmware load for brcm/BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e6.hcd failed with error -2". How can I fix this?
[18:33] <slaffe> loads of stuff broke when updateing from 14.04 -> 16.04..
[18:34] <sveinse> slaffe: Nope, this worked a week ago. I have been running 16.04 for at least three months with this working
[18:36] <slaffe> What do you mean by nope?
[18:36] <slaffe> I said loads of stuff broke on my server when I updated to latest version?
[18:36] <slaffe> Nope dosnt apply to that, because it did :O)
[18:37] <sveinse> slaffe: "nope" that your statement does not apply to my case. This wasn't broken by any upgrade
[18:37] <freelancerbob> .. ddrescue is running 2 hours cca, but seems no data are saved to output HDD, it is possible ?
[18:38] <slaffe> Well, worked right before the update, not after. What caused this if not the upgrade, then?
[18:38] <sveinse> slaffe: I think we're not talking about the same thing, are we?
[18:39] <monk> how can I tell if my grub loader will work without rebooting?
[18:39] <slaffe> sveinse we are not :)
[18:39] <sveinse> slaffe: good :P
[18:40] <slaffe> My problem is that i am getting this when trying to start deluged
[18:40] <slaffe> sudo -u www-data php occ maintenance:mode --on
[18:40] <slaffe> erm
[18:40] <slaffe> start: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
[18:40] <sveinse> how do you start it?
[18:41] <slaffe> used to run service deluged-webui start
[18:42] <slaffe> noticed now that systemctl start <name> might work
[18:42] <slaffe> hmm
[18:43] <sruli> hello all, i need a file to belong to root but accessible by a particular user, how can i achieve this?
[18:44] <freelancerbob> it is normal ? ddrescue do not copy any data to output HDD ?
[18:44] <sveinse> sruli: chown root.user some_file; chmod 0660 some_file
[18:44] <sruli> sveinse: thanks, i just tried user:root seems to have done the trick
[18:45] <sveinse> sruli: The chmod all depends on the access rights root, the user and others need
[18:46] <sveinse> sruli: note the ordering of chown. root:user is different from user:root. It's the first name which owns the file
[18:46] <deadshot> I made another drive
[18:46] <deadshot> usign gparted
[18:46] <deadshot> and live boot
[18:47] <deadshot> but the new drive is showing 6 GB used
[18:47] <deadshot> why ?
[18:47] <OerHeks> deadshot, easy on the enter, please
[18:47] <deadshot> sorry
[18:47] <slaffe> how do I start a service after 16.04? sudo service <name> wont work no more?
[18:47] <slaffe> [20:47:11]slaffe@scenics:~$ sudo systemctl enable /etc/init/deluge.conf
[18:47] <slaffe> Failed to execute operation: Invalid argument
[18:47] <slaffe> [20:47:11]slaffe@scenics:~$
[18:48] <OerHeks> !paste
[18:48] <slaffe> how do I enable the config?
[18:48] <OerHeks> slaffe, how did you install deluge?
[18:49] <deadshot> kil_, Jordan_U ?
[18:49] <slaffe> OerHeks sudo apt-get install deluged deluged-webui
[18:50] <slaffe> had it working before update, now it wont start. so reinstalled it and still nothing
[18:50] <sruli> sveinse: i understand thanks, i think it only mattered who owns the dir as after i made that change all works even if the file is user:user. what i am trying to do is use letsencrypt without its webserver so i mounted the www dir from web server on my mail server using sshfs but couldent access the files there from wan, changing the dir to user:root seemed to solve it
[18:50] <OerHeks> systemctl status deluged ?
[18:50] <slaffe> ● deluged.service
[18:50] <slaffe> Loaded: not-found (Reason: No such file or directory)
[18:50] <slaffe> Active: inactive (dead)
[18:52] <slaffe> Whys that?
[18:52] <sruli> i have a problem booting my pc with latest kernel update 4.4.0-38 a soon as it hits the plymoth screen i have no keyboard input, i can only boot using previous kernel 3.16.0-77 (running 14.04)
[18:53] <deadshot> How to give permissions to a partition in ubuntu ?
[18:53] <slaffe> OerHeks?
[18:54] <sruli> deadshot: what type of permission? have you mounted the partition what filysys is it?
[18:54] <deadshot> ext4
[18:55] <deadshot> it is currently can only be controlled by root
[18:55] <sruli> deadshot: is it mounted?
[18:55] <deadshot> yes
[18:55] <sruli> deadshot: what is the path to it?
[18:56] <sruli> deadshot: sudo chown -R username:username /path/to/mounted
[18:56] <deadshot> '/media/deadshot/e278a..'
[18:56] <agentd> imran
[18:57] <agentd> cheki hii stuff
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> agentd  it works, we see you
[18:57] <monk> can someone help me with grub? http://paste2.org/m6cB1jJ1
[18:58] <imranK> net yangu iko down
[18:59] <imranK> I think i'm good now
[19:05] <Keydns> today is day 5. i am searching for a terminal program that is either a repository or a p2p network for sharing only text documents.
[19:05] <Keydns> thanks
[19:08] <nicomachus> Keydns: what kind of sharing are we talking about here? within an internal network, available publicly, what?
[19:09] <OerHeks> nicomachus, tomorrow day 6
[19:09] <nicomachus> lol
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> and on the 7th day, god took a rest
[19:09] <nicomachus> hard to get support when you only hang around for 2 mins
[19:10] <nicomachus> I really should turn joins & parts back on...
[19:10] <sruli> i have a problem booting my pc with latest kernel update 4.4.0-38 a soon as it hits the plymoth screen i have no keyboard input, i can only boot using previous kernel 3.16.0-77 (running 14.04)
[19:11] <OerHeks> sruli how come your kernel jumped from 3.16 to 4.4 ?
[19:11] <nicomachus> autoremoved too quickly?
[19:12] <ioria> do-release-upgrade from utopic-lts
[19:12] <sruli> OerHeks: not to sure, got some message about lts enablement stack and hit the update button
[19:12] <sruli> ioria: apt-get do-release-upgrade ?
[19:13] <ioria> sruli, youused the gui, from cli is that command
[19:13] <sruli> ioria: yes, but will that not upgrade me to 16.04?
[19:13] <ioria> sruli, yes, it did .... cat /etc/issue
[19:14] <sruli> ioria: Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS \n \l
[19:14] <ioria> sruli, no, it didn't
[19:14] <OerHeks> LTS eneblement stack while next LTS is out, why don't you just upgrade?
[19:15] <sruli> OerHeks: not ready on my main machine... dont have time to deal with stuff that will break atm
[19:15] <ioria> sruli, you just upgrade the kernel and xorg
[19:15] <ioria> *upgraded
[19:15] <slaffe> what is this?
[19:15] <slaffe> [19:15] <slaffe> Authentication is required to start 'deluge-web.service'.
[19:15] <slaffe> Multiple identities can be used for authentication:
[19:15] <slaffe> 1. ,,, (slaffe)
[19:15] <slaffe> 2. ,,, (slaffe)
[19:15] <slaffe> Choose identity to authenticate as (1-2):
[19:15] <nicomachus> !paste | slaffe
[19:16] <sruli> i promise myself to upgrade next week for the last few month... (i am not sure yet if i will do upgrade or reinstall...)
[19:16] <sruli> so how do i remove this kernel?
[19:16] <ioria> sruli, what kernel ?
[19:16] <nicomachus> sruli: 16.04 is pretty darn stable. what are you afraid of it breaking?
[19:17] <DK2> dpkg -l | grep image
[19:17] <DK2> then purge the kernel?
[19:17] <ioria> sruli, you're using 4.4  ... it's ok
[19:17] <sruli> nicomachus: exisiting applications i run, many might not have all required libs in 14.04
[19:18] <ioria> sruli, i have the same config 4.4 + 3.16  (that i don't use anymore)
[19:18] <sruli> DK2: what command do i use to purge it?
[19:19] <morg> For anyone using Guake terminal, is there a way to fix text being only one color? I've tried using different palettes in pref>appearance but it only changes the background and the color of ALL text.
[19:21] <slaffe> why does systemctl enable <file> not work? says Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory
[19:21] <slaffe> eventhough it is the right location
[19:24] <nacc> slaffe: please pastebin the exact command and output
[19:25] <traba> fbbbtb
[19:25] <slaffe> sec
[19:26] <DK2> why would you remove the 4.4 kernel tough?
[19:26] <DK2> do you still have the old one?
[19:26] <sruli> DK2: i have th eold one, problem with new one is no keyboard input when i get to the plymonth screen
[19:27] <slaffe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23248032/
[19:27] <traba> fbbbtbf bdfb
[19:27] <traba> ffdbbfdbrtbbebedb
[19:27] <DK2> apt-get remove "package" should remove it
[19:27] <traba> heewfrwfewff
[19:28] <nacc> slaffe: you are saying 'enable' on deluge-web.service but the file is deluged-web.service
[19:28] <OerHeks> d-deamon
[19:28] <OerHeks> good find, nacc
[19:30] <ioria> !info deluge-web
[19:30] <daile> What is the default filesystem for the /boot partition? My system doesn't recognize it as ext2, ext3, or ext4.
[19:30] <ioria> !info deluged
[19:31] <Fendaris> Hi, I can access my windows disk through the file explorer, but I cannot select the path to the windows disk in jabref. Can I write it as a path somehow? /500gbVlume/etc/
[19:31] <Fendaris> ?
[19:32] <Fendaris> i can only select "/" as a path in jabref
[19:32] <ioria> slaffe, which pkg did you install exactly ?
[19:35] <Keydns> i am looking for a program for transffering text files via p2p or some kind of database
[19:36] <sruli> Keydns: private or public?
[19:36] <Keydns> either
[19:36] <sruli> Keydns: do you need it for private use or public access?
[19:36] <Keydns> public
[19:37] <romaroma> what about torrent?
[19:37] <Keydns> i am against them
[19:37] <romaroma> it will solve your probler, by the way
[19:37] <romaroma> what is wrong with it?
[19:37] <sruli> Keydns: when you need the services of the thief take him down from the gallows!
[19:37] <Keydns> i feel unsecure about it
[19:38] <Keydns> sruli i need a private one as well my dad says
[19:38] <Fendaris> i figured out that i m looking for something like /dev/sbd4, but I still cant access it via jabref. it s already mounted
[19:38] <romaroma> will, you need a private tool, I suppose)
[19:38] <romaroma> *well
[19:39] <Keydns> i would use some php correct?
[19:39] <Fendaris> solved it
[19:40] <Keydns> ko thanks bye
[19:40] <nacc> sruli: afaict, Keydns is a troll
[19:40] <nacc> comes on, asks the same question, leaves
[19:40] <OerHeks> kiddos
[19:40] <nacc> no context, no actual intention of doing something
[19:41] <romaroma> nacc, thanks
[19:41] <sruli> thanks
[19:41] <nacc> "transffering text files via p2p or some kind of database" is a trollish question
[19:41] <nacc> don't even understand what it means
[19:41] <nacc> anyways ... :)
[19:42] <romaroma> just a nooby question)
[19:49] <lleweldyn> exit
[19:54] <afidegnum> hello, anyone sucessfully install adobe flash player, into opera and google chrome ? i proceeded via apt but no sucess
[19:54] <OerHeks> chrome got flashplayer already.
[19:54] <afidegnum> what of Opera?
[19:55] <romaroma> visit something like adome.com/flash (dont remember exactly), it will suggest you to install flash.
[19:55] <Surendil> afidegnum, chrome has flashplayer already and for opera or firefox, install flashplugin-nonfree
[19:55] <matejko> but soon they will stop supporting flash I heard
[19:55] <OerHeks> maybe opera wants pepperflash, that downloads chrome and rips the flashplayer. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[19:56] <afidegnum> let me try that again
[19:57] <OerHeks> * and restart your opera browser, ofcourse
[19:57] <afidegnum> :)
[19:57] <matejko> is that me or is it turning the screen off on my laptop like after 2 minutes of inactivity? Also the locked user screen is different after updates that came like week ago? ubuntu 16.04
[19:58] <matejko> 15 seconds and turning off screen
[19:58] <matejko> when you lock user
[19:59] <matejko> is there any way to change that?
[20:00] <OerHeks> matejko, depends what desktop, sounds like monitor or energy settings to me
[20:01] <Potatoboi> i need help with booting
[20:01] <Potatoboi> ubuntu is stuck forever at the boot screen since i installed gnome shell
[20:01] <Potatoboi> and selected gdm at the x screen that popped
[20:02] <matejko> gnome
[20:03] <Potatoboi> matjko ?
[20:03] <matejko> Potatoboi happened to me... clean install helped
[20:03] <Potatoboi> yep
[20:03] <Potatoboi> but i really dont want to wipe my entire system
[20:03] <Potatoboi> i just want to reinstall lightdm
[20:03] <Potatoboi> and fix it
[20:04] <Potatoboi> i am logged on a livecd
[20:04] <matejko> sorry, Im noob user :/
[20:05] <Jordan_U> Potatoboi: Chroot into your system and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm" and select lightdm when asked what display manager to use.
[20:05] <NeXTSUN> a
[20:06] <NeXTSUN> how do you update ssh packages?
[20:06] <Potatoboi> Jordan_U alright
[20:06] <curlyears> heigh hough
[20:06] <Jordan_U> Potatoboi: If you need help chrooting in feel free to ask.
[20:06] <Potatoboi> it is asking to select either to select lightdm or gdm3
[20:06] <Potatoboi> i`m chrooted in my system already
[20:07] <Potatoboi> selected lightdm
[20:07] <Jordan_U> Potatoboi: Choose lightdm. That should at least get you a working system, and we can figure out how to get GDM3 working properly after that if you want.
[20:07] <Potatoboi> alright
[20:07] <Potatoboi> will reboot
[20:08] <curlyears> something really strange is happening.  I am running 16.04.1 vanilla insta;;.  All of a sudden, my mouse and keyboard don't work anymore.  I can't get on to the system at ALL with the installed version.  So IO am on DVDBoot, trying to resolve this.  Even under DVDBoot, after somewhere between 1 and 10 minutes, the keyboard and mouse lockup.  What t
[20:08] <curlyears> he holy &(^%^$%&(^$&^ id going on?
[20:10] <nacc> curlyears: is it a laptop or desktop? if the former does it have an internal keyboard that does work?
[20:10] <PotatoBoi> Jordan_U
[20:10] <PotatoBoi> it worked
[20:11] <PotatoBoi> i'm currently on my system now
[20:11] <offlim> is anyone familiar with mongoDB data at rest?
[20:12] <Jordan_U> curlyears: Please pastebin the output of "dmesg", preferably after the keyboard or mouse has stopped working. (You probably want to install openssh-server so you can still interact with the machine without a keyboard or mouse, using another computer / phone).
[20:12] <curlyears> The problem started when I was creating a "Firefox account" as per a push from mozilla.   I clicked into Thunderbiird to cheeck for the verification email, and Thunderbord came up, and then I couldn't do anything,.  I rebooted, and tried to go to  the ubuntu support pages, and it died again.  It has also died several times under Live Bott
[20:12] <curlyears> Jordan_U:  No can do.  I have no access to a second computer, and I don't use a smartphone.
[20:13] <curlyears> Oh, byw, the moouse isn't toally dead.  When I move it, the cursor moves, it just won't accept any clicks
[20:13] <curlyears> btw, too
[20:15] <nacc> curlyears: usb devices?
[20:16] <curlyears> when you're running under LiveBoot, who are you logged in as, defauklt, and how do you find the password fopr that login, if you wanty to login remote like Jordan_U  just suggested to me?
[20:16] <curlyears> nacc:  my keyboard and mouse are USB, if that's what you're asking?
[20:16] <nacc> curlyears: yeah, didn't you report some issues with this before?
[20:16] <nacc> i'm seeing it in my irc logs :)
[20:17] <k1l_> curlyears: the live user is ubuntu, the password is blank. but when you want to remote login to your system then you need the user and password of that system
[20:17] <curlyears> nacc:  one time a USB port just stopped working completely.  That one USB port is still totally dead
[20:17] <nacc> curlyears: how do you know there aren't more hw faults?
[20:17] <Jordan_U> curlyears: OK. Please pastebin the /var/log/syslog from the installed system, and in addition please run "dmesg --follow > /mnt/dmesg.log" (where /mnt/dmesg.log is any path that you will persist and you can then pastebin at next boot).
[20:18] <curlyears> k1l_:  so how can I do a emote login to view dmesg?
[20:18] <Jordan_U> s/you will persist/will persist/
[20:18] <OerHeks> curlyears, same mobo which gave you so much hdd and usb troubles?
[20:18] <nacc> curlyears: i thought ##hardware's recommendation was to replace the PS and maybe mobo?
[20:18] <k1l_> curlyears: mount the hdd from that system and look into /var/log/ there
[20:18] <curlyears> how do you creat a pathlist that will persist through a reboot?
[20:19] <nacc> curlyears: pathlist?
[20:19] <Jordan_U> curlyears: Mount either your internal drive or a USB drive and provide a path that's within that mount.
[20:19] <curlyears> nacc:  I did replace the PSU, and the computer has been runnning without any faults for several months now
[20:19] <de-facto> you can watch the voltage levels of your psu with lm-sensors or in bios
[20:20] <Jordan_U> curlyears: I just mean that you can't simply do "dmesg --follow ~/Desktop/notgonnapersist.log" because that will only save to RAM and be gone when you reboot.
[20:20] <grumpy> hi am getting page falut for amd on start anyone know how to fix this
[20:20] <curlyears> lm-sensorts not found
[20:21] <matejko> is there any way to printscreen lockscreen without running VM?
[20:21] <elisa87> this might sound funny but if my file has 5000 lines is there a bash method to copy what's inside my file again inside my file until it is 8GB?
[20:21] <c^> matejko, http://www.howtogeek.com/113267/how-to-take-screenshots-of-the-windows-logon-screen-2-geeky-tricks/
[20:22] <c^> oops, windows link
[20:22] <Anthaas> I have found an old monitor, and am able to plug it in, however I am getting "Signal Over Range" on it, and then the screen turns off.
[20:22] <c^> https://itsfoss.com/screenshot-login-screen-ubuntu-linux/ matejko
[20:23] <c^> Anthaas, incompatible refresh rate
[20:23] <Anthaas> c^ any possible solution, besides new monitor?
[20:24] <matejko> thx :)
[20:24] <c^> Anthaas, which bootloader?
[20:24] <c^> Grub?
[20:24] <curlyears> Antaas:  do you know what SORT of monitor it is? (EGA< VGA< SVGA)?
[20:25] <Anthaas> c^ Uhh, yeah, standard. This is my only OS on this machine
[20:25] <Anthaas> VGA
[20:25] <c^> Go to the GRUB options tab
[20:25] <c^> , tick the out-of-range option
[20:25] <c^> , apply,
[20:25] <c^> reboot
[20:25] <Anthaas> "Grub options tab"?
[20:25] <curlyears> this is very disheartening.  I am just about to start learning to use thew software to use m y 3Dprinter, and once again, my computer develops some oddball problem no one understands
[20:25] <c^> Not sure, just pulled it from askubuntu
[20:25] <c^> Maybe the grub menu on boot?
[20:26] <c^> Or in settings somewhere
[20:26] <c^> Anthaas source: http://askubuntu.com/questions/189566/input-signal-out-of-range-change-settings-to-1600-x-900
[20:26] <c^> the end suggests installing gpu drivers again
[20:27] <Anthaas> Probably not worth the hassle.
[20:27] <Anthaas> I have two modern monitors which work perfectly fine, and this ancient one that doesn't.
[20:27] <c^> I'd agree
[20:28] <c^> I hate using mismatching monitors personally
[20:30] <offlim> is anyone familiar with mongoDB encryption at rest?
[20:31] <curlyears> damn it, from L:iveBoot, when I try to mount /dev/sda (my 250GB SSD) it says /dev/sda or <my mount point> is busy.  I had just created the moutnpoint as /to,
[20:32] <Jordan_U> curlyears: You don't mount a drive like /dev/sda, you figure out what partition on the drive (sda1, sda2, etc) you actually want to mount, and mount that.
[20:32] <curlyears> I have an older 17" LCD monitor that I am not using, but I am holding on to it, to use with my Raspberry Pi 3, once I get that up and running
[20:32] <curlyears> thanks Jordan_U
[20:33] <Jordan_U> curlyears: You're welcome.
[20:35] <curlyears> what the hell does this mean?  I founf it in my dmeag (three times, one right after thee other):   usb 5-1: current rate 0 is different from the runtime rate 44100
[20:36] <curlyears> when I did sudo mount /dev/sda2 /tom   it recommended I look for a problem under dmesgm, which is when I found that USB error
[20:36] <curlyears> also mount says size or type is wrong  Do I need to go do a man mount?
[20:36] <nacc> curlyears: i beleive that is a sound message
[20:37] <curlyears> \nacc:  interesting.  I just plugged some USB speakers in yesterday.  They are working.  A buddy over in #reprap sent them to me.
[20:38] <curlyears> nacc:  but why would the error be logged three times, one immediatel;y after the other?
[20:38] <nacc> curlyears: i don't know
[20:38] <curlyears> samwe tinmestamp on all three
[20:39] <curlyears> weird.  Ah, well, as much of a headache as all this is, I'd still rather do this than submit to Microsoft Tyrrany
[20:43] <curlyears> OK...dmesg has 6 of these, one after the other:   EXT4-fs (sda2): unable to read superblock
[20:43] <ahn0st> linux spoof mac address reverts back to default, need help
[20:43] <k1l_> curlyears: is that the dmesg from the internal disk? or from the usb live system?
[20:45] <Jordan_U> curlyears: Please pastebin the output of "sudo blkid" so that we can help you run the correct mount command. Also note that this does appear to be a hardware problem. I'm just hoping that the output of dmesg will give some insight into how your hardware is failing.
[20:46] <k1l_> curlyears: and do i understand right, that you plugged in usb speakers and since then have issues with usb mouse and keyboard?
[20:47] <curlyears> k1l-:   well, sortof.  I plugged the USB speakers in a day or so ago.   Everything worked fine until this morning.
[20:48] <Keydns> i am looking for a program for transffering text files via p2p or some kind of database publically and privately
[20:49] <nacc> Keydns: you have been provided help on this a few times in the channel. You need to stay and listen to the responses.
[20:49] <Keydns> i was just going to reboot
[20:50] <nacc> Keydns: then reboot and *then* ask your question
[20:50] <nacc> it makes no sense to ask and then leave over and over
[20:50] <Keydns> ok i understand
[20:50] <Keydns> i shall return shortly
[20:50] <ppf> lol
[20:51] <curlyears> rats.  I'm trying to apt-get install pastebinit, and it has been sitting at 0% for two minutes now...
[20:51] <curlyears> ;p
[20:52] <curlyears> rats.  I'm trying to apt-get install pastebinit, and it has been sitting at 0% for two minutes now...
[20:52] <curlyears> rats.  I'm trying to apt-get install pastebinit, and it has been sitting at 0% for two minutes now...
[20:52] <curlyears> ;
[20:52] <curlyears> :9
[20:53] <k1l_> curlyears: installing on a live system could be an issue. just attach "| nc termbin.com 9999" to the command to pastebin stuff
[20:56] <Keydns> hi, anyone know the answer to my question?
[20:58] <curlyears> damn.
[20:58] <Surendil> Keydns, is ftp an option?
[20:58] <Keydns> file transfer protocol?
[20:59] <Surendil> Keydns, yeap, ftp-server
[20:59] <Keydns> if you can access it fromm macc and windwos theen yes
[20:59] <k1l_> Keydns: what about dropbox, googledrive, nextcloud or such?
[20:59] <Keydns> looking for something terminal based on the ubuntu side
[20:59] <sruli> Keydns: dropbox has a cli
[21:00] <curlyears> when I try to run sudo blkinit I get:  blkinit not found,  then on the next line, it prompts to try using netcat, which requires all sorts of argumebts, and says it's a bsd tool
[21:00] <k1l_> Keydns: a webserver, sftp server. there are a lot of ways to share stuff
[21:01] <Keydns> what is php?
[21:01] <k1l_> curlyears: its not blkinit
[21:01] <k1l_> curlyears: sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:03] <Keydns> can i use php to transfer files using putty on the other computer over the internet?
[21:04] <k1l_> php using putty? that doesnt sound right.
[21:04] <nacc> !php | ubottu
[21:04] <Keydns> o, it was ssh
[21:04] <Keydns> k1l_
[21:04] <k1l_> Keydns: if you control both sides then just use "scp" or "sftp". both come with the ssh server
[21:04] <nacc> Keydns: i feel like you're asking very strange questions that seem unrelated to each other
[21:05] <Keydns> i must want to know a lot of ddifferent things
[21:05] <nacc> Keydns: perhaps start over with what specifically you are trying to achieve (and not how you think you should achieve it)
[21:05] <curlyears> now I can't copy/paste from term to here.  I highlight the desired text, roght click the mouse, then select copy.  Switch to here, place the cursor in the input box, and right click, then select paste, and noting happens
[21:05] <nacc> Keydns: well, this is a support channel, not a discussion channel
[21:06] <Keydns> well i have two objectives on my new computer right now.. downloading a lot of text files to read and organize.. and to shre files between some of my dad, his friends and my brother
[21:06] <k1l_> Keydns: we focus on specific technical ubuntu issues in this channel. if you need the world explained better join the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[21:06] <curlyears> http://termbin.com/taxr
[21:06] <curlyears> I hand copied that
[21:06] <Keydns> is there a like ubuntu packages channel?
[21:10] <curlyears> \?
[21:11] <ppf> Keydns: no
[21:11] <ppf> maybe take a look at btsync or syncthing
[21:12] <ppf> curlyears: try your middle mouse button, it'll change your life ;)
[21:13] <curlyears> ppf:  when I click the middle mouse button (the scroll wheel) Firefox pops up a box asking me if I really want to leave this page
[21:14] <ppf> well you need to click on something that accepts input
[21:15] <curlyears> if I come into any more money, I am scrapping this damned m otherboard and gtting a newer, better one.  This thing has cost me so muych time and energy, I hate it
[21:15] <ppf> what's the issue?
[21:15] <curlyears> ppf:  for copy/paste, that ios usually the right mouse bvutton, which should pop up a menu with various choices, including copy and paste
[21:16] <matejko> guys, I have an issue (maybe) .. if I click on link on this chat, it open firefox new window with my homepage... is it bug or feature?
[21:16] <matejko> it wont open that link
[21:16] <RLShiftyDoggit> what chat client are you using
[21:16] <matejko> HexChat
[21:16] <curlyears> ppf:   I need to mount a partition from my system, SSD, so I can have certain system commands 9output copies of certain logs, since I am under Live Boot, and  need to pass thoswe logs to k1l- and others
[21:17] <RLShiftyDoggit> that shouldnt be happening
[21:17] <k1l_> matejko: hmm, which ubuntu? which desktop?
[21:17] <RLShiftyDoggit> i use hexchat
[21:17] <curlyears> feature
[21:17] <matejko> 16.04 64bit gnome?
[21:17] <ppf> curlyears: on linux DEs there are two clipboards (well, three, but noone uses the third). PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD. CLIPBOARD is what you feed with right click+copy, ctrl+c and the like.
[21:18] <k1l_> matejko: on the menu->settings -> command for urls. what is the command there?
[21:18] <curlyears> ppf:   oooooookayyyyyyy
[21:18] <ppf> and whatever you highlight with your mouse goes into PRIMARY, and you can paste it with a middle mouse click
[21:18]  * RLShiftyDoggit laughs Sparkalyballs 
[21:19] <matejko> "Open Link in a new Firefox Window    !firefox -new-window %s "
[21:19] <ppf> now, what's the problem with your mount?
[21:19] <k1l_> matejko: that is correct. so it seems like its a firefox issue
[21:20] <Jakey3> how would i switch off a desktop screen in a cron job
[21:20] <Jakey3> ?
[21:20] <curlyears> ppf:  I see.  I wonder why all of a suddent, I am having to paste with center button clikc as opposed to the right click I have been using for literally years?
[21:20] <ppf> because it will change your life ;)
[21:20] <curlyears> Jakey3: look up it's process number in ps -alx, then kill -9 <process number>
[21:20] <matejko> k1l_: yeah it might be.. I manually installed firefox 50 (dont know how) but it has lot of bugs so I purged it and installed canonical firefox49 and I think the paths of firefox50 is still there
[21:21] <k1l_> curlyears: ubuntu got 2 different clipboards. seems like you copied it to the middle-mouse-clipboard. or your irc client ony accepts that clipboard
[21:21] <k1l_> matejko: uh, yeah, that is some important info
[21:21] <ppf> Jakey3: maybe with xscreensaver?
[21:22] <curlyears> k1l-:  yeah, I get the two clipboard things, but right clicking is what I was using, then in the middle of tyhis IRC session, ity cvhanged, without any input from me.  How?
[21:22] <matejko> lol, is there any way to fix it? when I type whereis firefox in terminal it give me this: firefox: /usr/bin/firefox /usr/lib/firefox /etc/firefox /usr/share/man/man1/firefox.1.gz is that correct?
[21:22] <k1l_> Jakey3: use xset
[21:22] <k1l_> curlyears: i really dont know what you are doing to your systems all the time, really.
[21:23] <Jakey3> k1l_, does xset need to run as sudo
[21:23] <curlyears> Jakey3:  I can tell you this.  Do what ANYONE other than me tells you to do, because they all know infinitely more than i do
[21:23] <ppf> Jakey3: no
[21:23] <Jakey3> so it would simply run in a cron job
[21:24] <Scythe> Ya quelqun ?
[21:24] <curlyears> k1l-:  I am sitting here in IRC, or reading and responding to email, almost SALL the time (ropughly 6-78 hours a day.  Once I gget the last bit of hardware I need for my 3D printer, I'll likely be doing that all day instead=
[21:24] <ppf> Jakey3: i have to ask, why exactly do you need to turn off your screen in a cronjob?
[21:24] <curlyears> 6-8
[21:24] <ppf> curlyears: what's the actual problem you're trying to solve?
[21:24] <Jakey3> its a screen connect to a raspberry pi in a public location
[21:24] <Scythe> is there someone here ?
[21:24] <ppf> why not run screensaver
[21:25] <Jakey3> so at 22.00 we want to switch off the screen
[21:25] <Jakey3> to conserve energy
[21:25] <ppf> physically? or send it to standby?
[21:25] <Jakey3> stanby
[21:25] <matejko> k1l: is there any way to fix it?
[21:25] <ppf> nontheless, try xset or xscreensaver
[21:26] <Jakey3> xset can go directly in the cron
[21:26] <Jakey3> ?
[21:26] <k1l_> matejko: can you show a "which firefox | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:26] <ppf> sure
[21:27] <matejko> k1l_: http://termbin.com/9w4u
[21:27] <curlyears> ppf:  all of a suddent, lst night, my system started dumping me into a situation where it would accept no input from either the mouse or thwe terminal.  Rebooting brought it back, but after 1 to 19 minnutes or so of operation, it would do it again.  So I am booted up in Live DVD, trying to find a solution to that, and running into all sorts of weir
[21:27] <matejko> k1l_: http://termbin.com/rmio
[21:27] <curlyears> d issues now.  Someone on here asked me to save some information  from a few log files, and pastebin them, but to do that, I have to knnow what the mount point for a workable parition on my SSD is.  And the comans for tyhat aren't working, at least, not for me.  I type them (or copy/paste them) and they claim "<file> not available, or <Kfile> nnot
[21:27] <curlyears> found
[21:27] <k1l_> matejko: "ls -al /usr/bin/firefox | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:28] <curlyears> the mouse moves the cursor, but no button clicks are accepted, and n o response from the keyboard at all
[21:28] <Rey-Hool> hello
[21:28] <matejko> k1l_: directory or file is missing
[21:28] <curlyears> the LED in the mouse stays lit, so it isn't a power issue
[21:28] <ppf> curlyears: you sure your usb controller is alright?
[21:28] <Queenslayer> How's Ubuntu holding up?
[21:29] <ppf> tried a different keyboard?
[21:29] <k1l_> matejko: sudo apt purge firefox. then sudo apt install firefox
[21:29] <Queenslayer> Anything new to tempt me away from Mint?
[21:29] <ppf> you said something about a usb error message before
[21:29] <compdoc> curlyears, you can use the disk uility to mount the main partition
[21:29] <matejko> k1l_: sorry I copied it with " "
[21:29] <matejko> k1l_: http://termbin.com/w2k9
[21:29] <ppf> so i strongly suspect its botched
[21:30] <ppf> or do the inputs work on the live system?
[21:31] <ppf> Queenslayer: how is mint not ubuntu?
[21:31] <k1l_> matejko: could be worth renaming ".mozilla/firefox" to ".mozilla/firefox_old" and then restart firefox
[21:31] <matejko> k1l_: ok, I will try that, thx
[21:31] <k1l_> Queenslayer: its your choice which distro you use.
[21:31] <ppf> curlyears: if the inputs are out in the live system as well then it's probably a hardware issue
[21:32] <ppf> probably not much we can do then
[21:32] <Queenslayer> ppf: good question
[21:32] <Queenslayer> Better standard interface
[21:32] <ppf> you meen the DE/the WM?
[21:33] <OerHeks> mint has its own issues.
[21:33] <ppf> curlyears: one thing that helped me in the past with a flakey usb controller (which wasn't a hardware defect but actually a kernel problem):
[21:33] <ppf> disconnect the power for 10 minutes
[21:33] <k1l_> Queenslayer: ubuntu offers mate and cinnamon besides a lot of other desktops in their repos. there are even preinstalled isos for mate.
[21:34] <Queenslayer> k1l_: never checked it out
[21:34] <Queenslayer> I like the way Mint have packaged their OS
[21:34] <th0r> and there it is. The troll succeeds and for the next fifteen minutes the channnel is just noise
[21:35] <k1l_> Queenslayer: ok. if you dont have a technical ubuntu support issue then please keep this channel clear for ubuntu support.
[21:36] <curlyears> \ppf:  how do I determine that?  There is a new message in syslog, which nacc tells me is audio rtelated, complaining about ppf:  OK, I'lll try that.  Hope it works,. because Live Booting is really SLOW
[21:37] <matejko> k1l_: didnt work
[21:37] <matejko> k1l_: still opening homepage instead of link
[21:37] <curlyears> not syslog, dmesg, but it was in my last boot, and dmesg says nothing new has  been logged yet
[21:38] <k1l_> matejko: strange. renaming that folder would have erased all user settings
[21:38] <curlyears> matejko:  what is the .link?  paste it in here
[21:38] <k1l_> matejko: do you have some special network setup? like proxy or vpn?
[21:39] <tuxon> :v
[21:39] <matejko> k1l_: it did and I dint do backup.. nvm
[21:40] <matejko> curlyears: all links posted to this chat.. for example: http://termbin.com/9w4u
[21:40] <OerHeks> make sure firefox itself does not claim to be standard browser
[21:41] <curlyears> matejko:  well, that one does obnly go to a home page directory, but all the others that have been posted in the past hour work for me
[21:41] <OerHeks> + maybe gnome needs a logout/login to take effect
[21:42] <matejko> curlyears: even https://www.google.com wont open me a google
[21:42] <matejko> I will try reboot
[21:42] <matejko> brb
[21:42] <k1l_> matejko: do you use any sort of proxy or vpn?
[21:44] <curlyears> yeah, it works for me, so you definitely have a problem.  Have you tried shutting firefox down and restarting it?
[21:45] <k1l_> i guess he changed stuff on his network like using a proxy or changing the nameserver.
[21:46] <matejko> k1l_: no I am not using proxy nor VPN
[21:47] <matejko> k1l_: but if I click on link with right mouse button and choose "Open link in new Firefox window" it will open the link normally
[21:47] <curlyears> matejko:  again I ask, havwe you tried restarting firefox?
[21:48] <matejko> curlyears: yes dozen of times, even restarting PC
[21:49] <matejko> k1l_: when you type whereis firefox to terminal, what you get?
[21:50] <matejko> k1l_: /usr/bin/firefox /usr/lib/firefox /etc/firefox /usr/share/man/man1/firefox.1.gz is this ok?
[21:51] <tilak> hi
[21:52] <ppf> matejko: what's the issue? clicking a link won't do anything?
[21:52] <matejko> ppf: clicking a link will open firefox homepage instead of link
[21:52] <ppf> anywhere?
[21:53] <cesm> how much can lightdm suck that I'am not able to get it running for simple logon into awesome-wm, while startx just works fine
[21:53] <cesm> never seen bigger bunch of crap than this
[21:53] <matejko> ppf: from HexChat
[21:53] <cesm> lightdm, pls dieeee.
[21:53] <ppf> cesm: so, what have you tried so far?
[21:54] <cesm> ppf: what should I try?
[21:54] <ppf> so you've tried nothing and are all out of ideas?
[21:54] <cesm> ppf: setting .dmrc, setting user-session inside of /etc/lightdm/....
[21:54] <cesm> debugging logfiles, strace...
[21:54] <ppf> and what's the symptom?
[21:54] <cesm> black screen
[21:54] <cesm> after logging in
[21:56] <matejko> ppf: do you have firefox installed?
[21:56] <ppf> matejko: no i'm using chrome
[21:56] <ppf> cesm: can you paste your dmrc
[21:57] <cesm> [Desktop]
[21:57] <cesm> Session=awesome
[21:57] <cesm> thats it
[21:57] <skinux> WTH did Ubuntu do to MySQL (MariaDB)? I've had to create a non-root user account and grant all privileges, but that still doesn't work. I can only connect to MySQL using 'mysql' command
[21:58] <OerHeks> skinux, well .. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#MySQL_5.7
[21:58] <ppf> cesm: what's in /etc/lightdm?
[21:59] <darkdrgn2k> hi all
[21:59] <matejko> hi
[21:59] <darkdrgn2k> so im running cinnamon WM but somethign is off. for example my MIN MAX AND CLOSE buttons are little dots
[21:59] <cesm> ppf: at the moment just this:
[21:59] <ppf> matejko: what did you do to your firefox? built in from source?
[21:59] <darkdrgn2k> what am i missing
[21:59] <cesm> /etc/lightdm/lightdm-webkit-greeter.conf
[21:59] <cesm> /etc/lightdm/users.conf
[22:00] <cesm> yy
[22:00] <ppf> how does HexChat launch it?
[22:00] <OerHeks> darkdrgn2k, the obvious: do you run a theme on top of that?
[22:00] <matejko> ppf: dont understand the question
[22:00] <darkdrgn2k> no stock install
[22:00] <darkdrgn2k> im wondering if im missing some packages..
[22:01] <matejko> ppf: in settings - URL something: "Open Link in a new Firefox Window: !firefox -new-window %s"
[22:01] <OerHeks> sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt full-upgrade
[22:02] <matejko> ppf: URL handlers
[22:02] <cesm> why are they not able to write some documentation about such a beast of thing which claims to save the world and does everything better than all others
[22:02] <ppf> matejko: does new-window take arguments?
[22:02] <ppf> cesm: because usually it just works
[22:03] <matejko> ppf: dont know
[22:03] <ppf> launch it on the terminal
[22:03] <cesm> you mean lightdm?
[22:03] <ppf> cesm: did you try choosing the session in lightdm?
[22:03] <ppf> cesm: no that was for matejko
[22:03] <cesm> i get no option to chose that
[22:04] <ppf> i mean on the login screen
[22:04] <ppf> you can click the circle/ubuntu icon next to the username (i think that's where it is)
[22:04] <cesm> not for me
[22:05] <ppf> anywhere else on the screen
[22:05] <matejko> ppf: "firefox -new-window" opens new window if you were asking about that
[22:05] <ppf> for some guy yesterday it was in the top bar i think?
[22:05] <ppf> matejko: i meant with an url
[22:05] <ppf> *a
[22:06] <matejko> ppf: yep it is opening
[22:06] <matejko> ppf: a page
[22:06] <cesm> just no fucking documentation
[22:06] <cesm> these folks are a joke
[22:06] <stan_man_can> if I have a cronjob that runs and i need other users on the system to be able to make changse
[22:06] <cesm> will uninstall this shit now
[22:06] <stan_man_can> where should I store the files?
[22:06] <ppf> stan_man_can: /etc/cron.d probably
[22:07] <ppf> but beware, that's an enormous security risk
[22:07] <stan_man_can> ppf, a better place would be where?
[22:07] <stan_man_can> it's a series of PHP scripts that are scheduled
[22:07] <Surendil> stan_man_can, actually, each user could have their own contrab file with: crontab -e
[22:07] <ppf> might be better to put a launcher script in /etc/cron.d that drops privileges, and then launches the editable script
[22:08] <stan_man_can> Surendil, this is one batch of files though that everyone needs to edit
[22:08] <stan_man_can> the scheduling is fine
[22:08] <jarlath> What's an alternative to Skype for calling landlines from Ubuntu? Ekiga has pretty bad reviews in the software center.
[22:08] <stan_man_can> just not sure of where i should physically put the files
[22:08] <ppf> Surendil: not if they need to synchronize them
[22:08] <stan_man_can> it's not a huge collaboration either it's just someone needs to modify them every now and then
[22:08] <stan_man_can> right now they're in my home dir but that doesn't really work for everyone else
[22:08] <ppf> stan_man_can: in case of doupt, put things in /opt :)
[22:08] <stan_man_can> although I guess i could chmod 777 the directory in my home and symlink it to their homes?
[22:09] <matejko> how to remove directory in terminal?
[22:09] <darkdrgn2k> rm -rf DIRECTORYU
[22:09] <\9> matejko: rmdir, if it's empty
[22:09] <stan_man_can> matrm -rf
[22:09] <curlyears> stan_man:  I would build the project such that it only allows specific user numbes to make changes to the database or code.  Keep the allowed user numbers in an encrypted file, and write a small app to read, write and edit that fiel, that onlly YOUO can use.\
[22:09] <ppf> matejko: use with caution
[22:10] <\9> matejko: rm -rf, if it's not (very dangerous)
[22:10] <matejko> thx
[22:10] <stan_man_can> curlyears, that's a joke right? sarcasm is hard to see
[22:10] <curlyears> stan_man_can:   why would I joke about that?  I was serious
[22:10] <stan_man_can> matejko, but for real rm -rf is super dangerous so please be super careful, once you delete it's gone
[22:10] <curlyears> it's a minor programming task, at most
[22:11] <stan_man_can> the question is literally
[22:11] <stan_man_can> "where should i keep a file that everyone needs to be able to edit"
[22:11] <matejko> https://www.google.com
[22:11] <stan_man_can> not, how should I implement a custom ACL or anything
[22:12] <OerHeks> There is a funny folder called /opt/
[22:12] <matejko> so I purged firefox, removed every directory that was in "whereis firefox" installed firefox again and it still doesnt open a link from HexChat
[22:12] <curlyears> stan_man_can:  in a secure locatinoibn the file system, oprotected by what I described to you earlier.  That is a semi-secure setup, allowuing the opeople who need to to access it, without making it available to any punk whohappens to find their way into your system.  SECURITY
[22:12] <skinux> The only thing that page tells me is that blank passwords no longer work. I'm not using a blank password.
[22:12] <Tex_Nick> OerHeks: lol
[22:12] <\9> "keep allowed user numbers in an encrypted file"
[22:12] <OerHeks> skinux, no, you missed the part:  Some configuration directives have been changed or deprecated
[22:12] <\9> it's called user groups
[22:13] <curlyears> stan_man_can: you obviously have no appreciation of basic system security measures
[22:13] <stan_man_can> obviously not
[22:13] <stan_man_can> i think i'm just going to sudo chmod -R 777 / to make life easier
[22:13] <OerHeks> skinux, without proper errorlog it is guessing
[22:14] <curlyears> well, yeah, you could use groups.  That would be an implied application of my desription, I just haven't  had to administer a publicly available system in so long I forgot about groups.  I am tghe ONLY user of my ysstem
[22:14] <k1l_> stan_man_can: dont do that
[22:14] <curlyears> stan_man_can: pardon my directness, but THAT is sheer stupidity
[22:14] <th0r> stan_man_can, put it all by itself on a usb drive on a network server everyone can access
[22:15] <\9> i have this slight feeling that he was sarcastics
[22:15] <stan_man_can> \9 +1
[22:15] <curlyears> sarcasm not allowed on this channel, go awsay    :p
[22:15] <th0r> no....seriously...everyone can map that folder to their home directory, and then access the file as needed
[22:16] <stan_man_can> not sure it would jive with IT if i hand them a flash drive and tell them to go plug it into one of the racks in our datacenter
[22:16] <curlyears> seriously, if you make it thaty simple, what happens if two people are trying to update and change the code at the same time?  You need a checkin and checkout system to protecct against race conditions between users
[22:17] <stan_man_can> that will never happen
[22:17] <th0r> curlyears, what happens if he puts it in the normal folder structure and two people try to access it at the same time? At least on a samba server it is 'removed' from the OS
[22:17] <curlyears> how can you KNOW that, stan_man_can?
[22:18] <stan_man_can> well
[22:18] <\9> curlyears: that sounds incredibly unrealistic
[22:18] <stan_man_can> the file gets updated randomly once, maybe twice a year
[22:18] <\9> assuming that these users aren't running I/O-intensive jobs
[22:18] <stan_man_can> there's only 3 of us who have access to the server and we all work on the same team
[22:18] <curlyears> fine.  risk your program and related data.  Not my lookout
[22:19] <stan_man_can> the only reason we all need access is because more often than not we only have one user available to update it at a time
[22:19] <stan_man_can> i know
[22:20] <\9> curlyears: it's somewhat more likely that an asteroid will hit earth during the next second and wipe out all life, than a I/O race condition to happen in a simple group share scenario
[22:20] <stan_man_can> \9 thank you
[22:21] <stan_man_can> i'm all for doing things properly but there's a time and place for everything
[22:21] <interf> OK, I just updated to Xenial (from Trusty). This came with a new version of Totem, with a new interface. I kinda hate it - there's a bar with the filename that is totally useless, and the most useful button after play (fit window to video) is gone. Is there a way to get it back?
[22:21] <th0r> stan_man_can, is there a reason you don't just create a three member group and give the group write permission?
[22:22] <stan_man_can> th0r, right now it's in my home directory
[22:22] <stan_man_can> literally all i needed to know was where on the filesystem to move the folder
[22:22] <stan_man_can> just not super familiar on that stuff
[22:22] <stan_man_can> i mean sure you can dump it anywhere but i figured i'd let you guys point me to the right place
[22:22] <interf> also the player controls literally never disappear. I can't find any configurable options in the GUI...
[22:22] <curlyears> stan_man_can: ask your IT staff whatt they think about the issue, I dare you
[22:23] <\9> stan_man_can: i don't think any standard defines the proper place to put such a thing
[22:23] <IonutVan_> are comments allowed in systemd .service file?
[22:24] <curlyears> stan_man_can: leave it in a folder under your home folder, and set the GID to a special group created for this purpose,  IT will have to assign each chosen user to the new group, but that is totally trivial
[22:24] <matejko> pls in HexChat when you press F1, what page is opened? can someone post a link... my firefox is opening homepage
[22:24] <Keydns> how do i get out of an application that is running in my erminal so that i see my home directory oncce again?
[22:25] <matejko> Keydns: ctrl+c
[22:25] <\9> Keydns: what application is it?
[22:25] <\9> matejko: not wise to suggest ctrl+c without knowing context
[22:25] <matejko> I thought thats the command for exiting/canceling
[22:26] <\9> it's the command for forcibly interrupting the running process
[22:26] <matejko> sorry about that then
[22:26] <\9> or, semi-forcibly anyway
[22:26] <Tex_Nick> matejko: on this box, HexChat F1 opens ... http://hexchat.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
[22:27] <matejko> Tex_Nick: thx
[22:27] <matejko> \9: I hope Keydns wont kill me
[22:29] <matejko> nick hps
[22:30] <matejko> NICK
[22:30] <matejko> NICK hps
[22:30] <matejko>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-38-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU 2020M @ 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1,20GHz ** RAM: Physical: 3,5GiB, 75,9% free ** Disk: Total: 909,5GiB, 84,8% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH29: ThinkPad EC - ThinkPad Console Audio Control ** Ethernet: Realtek
[22:30] <matejko> Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit Ethernet ** Uptime: 47m 58s **
[22:35] <matejko> sh** cant get the HexChat link opening to work
[22:35] <lordcirth> Why are only Server isos available via Jigdo?
[22:36] <k1l_> lordcirth: ask the jigdo guys?
[22:36] <lordcirth> Where?
[22:37] <lordcirth> It's just strange because Desktop ISOs are bigger
[22:38] <k1l_> matejko: does "x-www-browser google.com" in terminal work?
[22:38] <matejko> k1l_: opens chromium
[22:39] <k1l_> matejko: and "gnome-open http://google.com"
[22:39] <matejko> k1l_: "gnome-open is not installed"
[22:39] <k1l_> matejko: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[22:39] <matejko>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-38-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU 2020M @ 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1,27GHz ** RAM: Physical: 3,5GiB, 75,4% free ** Disk: Total: 909,5GiB, 84,8% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH29: ThinkPad EC - ThinkPad Console Audio Control ** Ethernet: Realtek
[22:39] <matejko> Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit Ethernet ** Uptime: 57m 3s **
[22:40] <k1l_> no, which flavour
[22:40] <matejko> k1l_: HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-38-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 **
[22:40] <k1l_> ok, let me rephrase: which desktop is it?
[22:44] <matejko> k1l_: GDMSESSION=ubuntu SESSIONTYPE=gnome-session XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=Unity
[22:44] <matejko> k1l_: is that it or something else?
[22:44] <k1l_> matejko: ok, so its unity.
[22:45] <matejko> k1l_: yes, and even thuunderbird is not opening links, just homepages
[22:45] <k1l_> did you try to purge firefox? and reinstall?
[22:46] <matejko> k1l_: yes, no changes
[22:47] <matejko> k1l_: how to set HexChat to open links in chromium?
[22:47] <k1l_> but usage of firefox works?
[22:47] <matejko> k1l_: firefox works well
[22:48] <k1l_> could you set !firefox to !/usr/bin/firefox  in that hexchat menu?
[22:49] <curlyears> OK, well, thanks to all, and I'll see you later
[22:50] <matejko> k1l_: still opening homepage
[22:51] <dlam> is there a way to see the dependencies for a package?  i wanna see what 'vim-gtk' needs
[22:52] <k1l_> matejko: last guess: open "preferred applications" (or informations) from the dash, then set firefox as standard app
[22:55] <bksubhuti> hello
[22:55] <matejko> k1l_: cannot find it
[22:56] <k1l_> matejko: click on the menu at the clock, choose "about this system"
[22:57] <matejko> k1l_: yeah, I have set "Web - Firefox"
[22:57] <k1l_> is there another firefox?
[22:57] <mcphail> dlam: "apt show vim-gtk"
[22:58] <matejko> k1l_: no, only one firefox and chromium and default is firefox
[22:59] <k1l_> ok, then i dont know what your manual install did change there
[23:00] <lordcirth> Would it make any sense to make a installer liveusb-style partition on a machine as a sort of recovery partition?
[23:00] <jeffblogs> ?
[23:01] <lordcirth> Ah nevermind, I'll do the grub bootable iso thing
[23:02] <matejko> k1l_: yeah, I fucked up.. but thx for your help ... even in firefox, when I clicked about:addons and opened "Languages" tab .. it said that english language pack 50.0 is not supported.. other language packs (49.0) was supported
[23:03] <baxt> Is there a way to turn of the leave and enter notification
[23:03] <k1l_> !quietirc | baxt
[23:04] <matejko> !quietirc | baxt
[23:10] <ldsh> Hi, I changed the motherboard (different brand), and remove the nvidia graphic card. The system only boot in emergency mode and I have no internet. I already uninstalled the nvidia drivers, but it still do not boot. What should I check now?
[23:11] <baxt> I'm using mutter it doesn't seem to have the option.
[23:11] <k1l_> ldsh: what video card do you use now?
[23:12] <ldsh> k1l the one of the cpu intel I7 6700k
[23:13] <ldsh> so Intel® HD Graphics 530
[23:13] <k1l_> ldsh: what do syslog and xorg log in /var/log say about the failed boot?
[23:14] <MMan_> nice ip6
[23:15] <MMan_> is it white all so ? :)
[23:15] <ldsh> k1l good idea. Is this possible syslog did not have been updated since before I change the hardware?
[23:18] <Guest61369> Hello?
[23:18] <Guest61369> Um
[23:18] <MMan_> hi mate was up
[23:18] <Guest61369> i need some help with video production
[23:19] <Guest61369> do you know any applications i can use to green screen?
[23:19] <MMan_> is it porn involved?
[23:19] <de-facto> !info kdenlive
[23:19] <Guest61369> please don't use that language
[23:19] <Guest61369> i need an application i can use to green screen
[23:19] <Guest61369> any ideas
[23:19] <debkad> gren screen?
[23:20] <nacc> Guest61369: open shot?
[23:20] <Guest61369> yea
[23:20] <Guest61369> know it?
[23:20] <ldsh> k1l_, Both files seems to date from boot before I change the hardware.
[23:20] <MMan_> yeah he means the green box- blue boc for rendering transpared things
[23:20] <Guest61369> I NEED A GREEN SCREEN
[23:20] <debkad> Guest61369: to green the desktop or video or what?
[23:20] <Guest61369> CAN ANYON HERE HELP ME
[23:20] <nacc> Guest61369: don't yell
[23:20] <Guest61369> from a camera
[23:21] <Guest61369> to proccess the video to have a green screen
[23:21] <k1l_> Guest61369: no need for capslock
[23:21] <Guest61369> you know Jelly the tuber?
[23:21] <debkad> Guest61369: the folks above already gave you at least one
[23:21] <Guest61369> you know Jelly the tuber?
[23:21] <nacc> Guest61369: oneshot's website says they can do what you want, i think (http://www.openshot.org/features/)
[23:21] <de-facto> he means having a green background in video and replacing that with something else i guess
[23:21] <nacc> Guest61369: that's not ontopic for this channel, afaict
[23:21] <Guest61369> DOes anyone know Jelly!
[23:21] <Guest61369> i am jelly
[23:22] <debkad> oh
[23:22] <Guest61369> and i omved to ubuntu
[23:22] <Guest61369> *moved*
[23:22] <Guest61369> i need an app to do my green screen
[23:22] <MMan_> like everyone else will do some time in the future
[23:22] <Guest61369> :P
[23:22] <Guest61369> i need help
[23:23] <Guest61369> im not use to ubuntu
[23:23] <nacc> Guest61369: then why did you move?
[23:23] <lordcirth> Guest61369, what do you need help with?
[23:23] <Guest61369> I heard it was better for video proccesssing
[23:23] <nacc> Guest61369: it feels like you have been provided answeres that you are trying to ignore
[23:23] <de-facto> kdenlive is pretty advanced google if it can do that
[23:23] <Guest61369> do i use openshot?
[23:24] <nacc> Guest61369: that is up to you?
[23:25] <DanTDM> Hello!
[23:25] <k1l_> Guest61369: so read yourself into openshot. that is a program  for greenscreen production
[23:25] <ldsh> k1l_, The boot.log has been updated. Seems I should also comment some entries from my fstab (I disconnected these hard drives)
[23:25] <de-facto> Guest61369 https://userbase.kde.org/Kdenlive/Manual/Effects/Alpha_manipulation/Blue_Screen
[23:25] <DanTDM> ITS DAN HERE!
[23:25] <k1l_> ldsh: yes. systemd is very picky when the fstab is not correct
[23:25] <DanTDM> man the service
[23:27] <ldsh> k1l_, I'll change that and see the result ;)
[23:32] <BookSearch> !Xon Matthew Cody - [Powerless 02] - Super (retail) (epub).rar
[23:32] <k1l_> BookSearch: no warez in here
[23:34] <MMan_> TIP: intel of a bot-prog represents its creator!
[23:34] <ldsh> k1l_, seems it did it! I thought I had to check that but forgot at the end. Thanks for the help :)
[23:37] <matejko> k1l_: pls, do you have firefox in your launcher?
[23:37] <k1l_> matejko: yes
[23:37] <bradhe> Hey all, I'm trying to migrate from 14.04 to 16.04. We've got a buncha upstart jobs...is there a good way to migrate without having to convert all the jobs from upstart to systemd?
[23:37] <kdawgubuntulivec> hi
[23:38] <matejko> k1l_: and if you right-click the firefox icon, what menus are there?
[23:39] <kdawgubuntulivec> hi
[23:39] <kdawgubuntulivec> anyone no how to change servers or connect to another one googling but havent found anything yet
[23:39] <MMan_> you said that and before! (goog it again ) :)
[23:40] <k1l_> MMan_: please stop that sort of responses. we stick to actual support in here
[23:40] <MMan_> roger
[23:41] <k1l_> kdawgubuntulivec: what server do you mean? can you give more details?
[23:41] <Rarrikins> kdawgubuntulivec: Do you mean IRC (this chat)?
[23:42] <k1l_> matejko: cat /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop   that is the config of that starter
[23:44] <MMan_> Any one know why VLC when it plays mp4 videos made with windows movie maker that had a jpeg picture only, it show me 2 horizontial pink lines who they cover 90% of the video?
[23:44] <MMan_> Totem plays them fine!
[23:45] <matejko> k1l_: yeah, but after edit (as root of course) nothing changed ... still showing only this menus: 1. Firefox - Internet Broswer and 2. Dont keep in launcher
[23:45] <k1l_> matejko: cat /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:46] <de-facto> MMan_ nope but you might want to investigate with mediainfo or such
[23:47] <matejko> k1l_: http://termbin.com/5z9f
[23:47] <Tex_Nick> MMan_: have you asked in #videolan ?
[23:47] <MMan_> i believe it is a decoder bug, just a idea, but i do not know how to add or remove codecs in VLC
[23:48] <MMan_> No i havent i will go there now
[23:48] <de-facto> MMan_ vlc uses libavcodec-ffmpeg or such while totem uses libgstreamer1.0 or such
[23:48] <MMan_> didnt even know that exists
[23:48] <Ben64> honestly, vlc is not great
[23:49] <MMan_> thanks for the answers, i heading over videolan to ask... ( yes Ben but i need its playlist )
[23:49] <Ben64> other things have a playlist
[23:49] <MMan_> quick propose one for me please
[23:50] <Ben64> mplayer2, mpv, smplayer
[23:50] <th0r> MMan_, audacious
[23:50] <k1l_> matejko: ist there some firefox stuff in .local/share/applications ?
[23:50] <MMan_> i need video and music playback with full screen support and playlist live editing
[23:50] <MMan_> audacious noted!!
[23:50] <Ben64> smplayer
[23:51] <MMan_> smplayer noted!!
[23:52] <matejko> k1l_: firefox_exe.desktop and firefox.desktop ... delete them?
[23:52] <OerHeks>  firefox_exe.desktop sounds like wine.
[23:52] <matejko> k1l_: oh I see!
[23:53] <matejko> k1l_: thanks :)
[23:53] <matejko> 0erHeks: yep wine
[23:53] <k1l_> wait, it was firefox in wine all the time?
[23:53] <OerHeks> k1l_, good find with local/share
[23:53] <matejko> 0erHeks: I had installed firefox 50.0 (beta version) and nothing worked there and I coudlnt purge it so I tried wine
[23:54] <matejko> k1l_: no but the settings in .local/shater/applications/firefox.desktop are the settings for my launcher
[23:55] <matejko> k1l_: *no but the settings in .local/share/applications/firefox.desktop are the settings for my launcher
[23:56] <de-facto> afaik the .local/... files "overrule" those from the system directories
[23:56] <wadadli> MMan_: what about google, ever note that?
[23:57] <k1l_> !google | wadadli
[23:57] <OerHeks> bing is also pretty good .. wait, ...
[23:57] <MMan_> nothing special at goog wadadli
[23:58] <MMan_> bing is a bad copy of yahoo with compilation of ms database!
[23:59] <matejko> k1l_: finally... I copied usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop into .local/share/applications/firefox.desktop and it does the trick.. now it will open the links :) thx for help bro :)