| === TheMaster is now known as Unit193 | ||
| flocculant | bluesabre: following robert ancell's comment on bug 1627304 - tested that - works to lock session, get to guest, logout, get back to session | 06:55 |
|---|---|---|
| ubottu | bug 1627304 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "User locking problems - guest login crashing" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1627304 | 06:55 |
| flocculant | obviously without light-locker involvement | 06:56 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: I've narrowed this locking issue down to close to a date ... http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/x/xubuntu-default-settings/xubuntu-default-settings_16.10.1/changelog | 07:14 |
| flocculant | somewhere roundabout 31st July | 07:15 |
| flocculant | reinstalled light-locker, purged x-d-s, installed the 16.04 version - all works ok | 07:15 |
| flocculant | not had time to check if previous apparmor thing works with that old version | 07:16 |
| flocculant | yes I did | 07:19 |
| flocculant | so with old apparmor service, old x-d-s then everything works as expected | 07:19 |
| === pavlushka is now known as Guest6734 | ||
| === Guest6734 is now known as pavlushka | ||
| bluesabre | flocculant, so, its probably related to systemd... | 09:34 |
| bluesabre | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/yakkety/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+changelog | 09:34 |
| Unit193 | He's in -release now with pitti. | 09:36 |
| bluesabre | aha | 09:37 |
| bluesabre | Unit193, actually, the xfce session was never migrated fully, still using startxfce4 | 10:10 |
| Unit193 | Well no, it wouldn't. | 10:11 |
| bluesabre | so... | 10:12 |
| bluesabre | <Ukikie> bluesabre: Look at -session too. | 10:12 |
| bluesabre | was more informational than anything? | 10:13 |
| Unit193 | No, there was something I thought did an override, but couldn't remember. Looking now. | 10:13 |
| bluesabre | ok, thank you | 10:13 |
| Unit193 | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/275014126/xfce4-session_4.12.1-3ubuntu1_4.12.1-3ubuntu2.diff.gz I see. Well I guess we'll see if user sessions work. :D | 10:16 |
| bluesabre | :) | 10:20 |
| bluesabre | flocculant, in case you miss it, we uploaded a new xubuntu-default-settings (16.10.2) that should resolve the locking issues | 10:21 |
| -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: [trunk] r627 Revert systemd user unit changes (LP: #1622303), release 16.... (by Sean Davis) | 10:44 | |
| flocculant | bluesabre: thanks :) | 10:56 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: \o/ | 11:05 |
| flocculant | so that works - and so does guest, without fiddling with that apparmor profile | 11:06 |
| bluesabre | flocculant, neat! | 11:06 |
| flocculant | so - panic over till it's akxwi-dave's turn :p | 11:07 |
| flocculant | of course I'll keep the panic ticking over until that new x-d-s lands in the image ... | 11:07 |
| bluesabre | :D | 11:08 |
| flocculant | not really even sure why I started looking there this morning - but I did :) | 11:08 |
| bluesabre | much appreciated | 11:08 |
| flocculant | :) | 11:08 |
| flocculant | welcome - glad we don't need to worry about changing the locker | 11:09 |
| knome | woot | 11:10 |
| flocculant | yup | 11:10 |
| knome | nice | 11:11 |
| knome | btw, while relatively unlikely, i *might* be a bit late for the meeting today - if that happens, just boot the meeting and i'll pick the chair when i pop in | 11:12 |
| flocculant | ack - I'm relaxed about that meeting now :p | 11:13 |
| knome | yup | 11:13 |
| bluesabre | I'll probably be at least a few minutes late for the meeting | 11:16 |
| bluesabre | traffic some days is lovely, some days !@#$@!$ | 11:16 |
| flocculant | tell me | 11:17 |
| flocculant | I will double check before meeting that reverted x-d-s plus what's going to change in the app.profile doesn't explode | 11:19 |
| flocculant | cos I can't remember quite what state which vm is in anymore :p | 11:20 |
| akxwi-dave | flocculant: I have your telephone number, so only panic if you see its me ringing :-) | 12:12 |
| knome | isn't it fair for anyone to panic if akxwi-dave rings?) | 12:18 |
| akxwi-dave | oh yes... :-) | 12:19 |
| flocculant | ha h a | 14:36 |
| flocculant | do we have to wait 7 days for x-d-s out of proposed? | 15:18 |
| flocculant | no we don't | 16:55 |
| flocculant | rebuilt iso, tested from scratch with a clean install \o/ | 16:56 |
| knome | ok, not going to be late | 19:54 |
| flocculant | not going to be about for ages when it gets to it now :) | 20:08 |
| knome | ;) | 20:09 |
| knome | the reason i might have been late was a potentially very long board game - or one that started late | 20:09 |
| knome | but we're done now ;) | 20:10 |
| flocculant | :) | 20:10 |
| nairwolf | I completly forgotten there is a meeting tonight | 20:22 |
| nairwolf | badly, I'm completely unable to assist and participate | 20:23 |
| nairwolf | I will just read your discussion | 20:23 |
| nairwolf | I've seen some progress with the lock bug in the ml. Sorry for not being able to help you in this particular time... | 20:23 |
| flocculant | nairwolf: no problem - that's sorted now - I rebuilt iso with new package to confirm that | 20:24 |
| nairwolf | ok, the iso version 20160928 doesn't contain the new package? | 20:26 |
| flocculant | yes it does - that's the one I rebuilt | 20:30 |
| nairwolf | ok ;) | 20:31 |
| nairwolf | if I find time this night, I would be able to test it | 20:31 |
| knome | !team | Meeting in 10 minutes! | 21:20 |
| ubottu | Meeting in 10 minutes!: akxwi-dave, bluesabre, dkessel, flocculant, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, micahg, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster and Unit193 | 21:20 |
| fliberty | awesome - bnc died at the wrong time :p | 21:29 |
| knome | is there a right time? | 21:30 |
| fliberty | 4am :D | 21:30 |
| knome | #startmeeting Xubuntu community meeting | 21:32 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Wed Sep 28 21:32:14 2016 UTC. The chair is knome. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 21:32 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 21:32 |
| knome | so.. who's here for the meeting? | 21:32 |
| fliberty | yup | 21:32 |
| knome | anybody else? :P | 21:34 |
| knome | maybe we'll just wait for bluesabre | 21:34 |
| fliberty | yep | 21:34 |
| fliberty | I'd guess he's not so omgomgomg now he knows that we're ok :) | 21:36 |
| fliberty | I know I am ... | 21:36 |
| knome | or maybe he is, remember he is likely in the middle of some traffic... | 21:37 |
| knome | :P | 21:37 |
| bluesabre | o/ | 21:37 |
| fliberty | oh yea :) | 21:37 |
| knome | o hai | 21:37 |
| fliberty | oh there he is :p | 21:37 |
| fliberty | hi bluesabre :) | 21:37 |
| knome | #topic Open action items | 21:37 |
| bluesabre | hi fliberty knome | 21:37 |
| knome | #ACTION knome to look at installer slideshow and make sure everyting is up-to-date | 21:38 |
| meetingology | ACTION: knome to look at installer slideshow and make sure everyting is up-to-date | 21:38 |
| knome | bluesabre, did you prepare file manager testing for Z? | 21:38 |
| bluesabre | knome, only started researching and dumping notes | 21:38 |
| knome | if not, maybe that would be better in a blueprint anyway? | 21:38 |
| bluesabre | I'll like the pad though | 21:38 |
| bluesabre | and yeah | 21:38 |
| fliberty | http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-z-filemanager | 21:38 |
| knome | oki, good | 21:38 |
| knome | bluesabre, Unit193: did you write a report of the state of Thunar? | 21:39 |
| fliberty | I started making a few notes on that pad ^^ | 21:39 |
| Unit193 | Yeah, sort of. | 21:39 |
| knome | do you still need to do some work on it? | 21:39 |
| bluesabre | Yes, I'd say so. | 21:40 |
| knome | #ACTION bluesabre and Unit193 to write a report of the state of Thunar (eg. which patches we carry and what they should do) and make sure all of them are in a PPA | 21:40 |
| meetingology | ACTION: bluesabre and Unit193 to write a report of the state of Thunar (eg. which patches we carry and what they should do) and make sure all of them are in a PPA | 21:40 |
| bluesabre | works for me | 21:40 |
| knome | (that's just the old item, passing it forward) | 21:40 |
| knome | #topic Updates and Announcements | 21:40 |
| fliberty | #info We didn't release Final Beta due to bug 1622303 | 21:41 |
| ubottu | bug 1622303 in xfce4-session (Ubuntu) "Fails to unlock/ resumes to black screen" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1622303 | 21:41 |
| fliberty | phew memory for number worked ... | 21:41 |
| knome | #info Final Freeze October 6 – thursday next week | 21:41 |
| knome | got to get the stuff in... | 21:41 |
| fliberty | #info little testing done for beta, I called a halt to it | 21:42 |
| bluesabre | looking forward to the new wallpaper :) | 21:42 |
| knome | that, and need to make sure the installer slideshow is "ok" | 21:42 |
| fliberty | #info qa/dev lots of backwards and forwards on sorting out the lock bug | 21:42 |
| bluesabre | that too | 21:42 |
| knome | so what caused the bug? | 21:42 |
| fliberty | knome: looks ok as long as no changes other than rat instead of cow on there | 21:43 |
| fliberty | I've looked at it rather a lot lately ... | 21:43 |
| knome | fliberty, and no release numbers need changing? | 21:43 |
| bluesabre | knome, changes to xubuntu-default-settings regarding systemd user sessions, we rolled back and resolved the issue | 21:43 |
| fliberty | change to xubuntu-default-settings in late July/early August | 21:43 |
| fliberty | that :p | 21:43 |
| fliberty | knome: release numbers ? | 21:44 |
| knome | what was that change supposed to fix/bring? | 21:44 |
| knome | fliberty, eg. it doesn't boldly say "Welcome to Xubuntu 16.04!" ? | 21:44 |
| fliberty | oh it might | 21:44 |
| fliberty | was more thinking of content of the top of my head | 21:45 |
| bluesabre | knome, "the entire session runs in one unit, it's not split up" per pitti | 21:45 |
| knome | ok... :P | 21:46 |
| bluesabre | I'm not very knowledgeable about init systems, systemd, and users and all that :D | 21:46 |
| Unit193 | Well, systemd user sessions rather than upstart. | 21:46 |
| bluesabre | apparently I need to get there | 21:46 |
| bluesabre | Unit193 knows more about this stuff :D | 21:46 |
| fliberty | knome: nope - it says 16.10 | 21:46 |
| knome | \o/ | 21:46 |
| fliberty | but rat :p | 21:46 |
| knome | mmh... | 21:47 |
| knome | any other updates? | 21:47 |
| fliberty | but you knew that because it's not the last minute yet :D | 21:47 |
| bluesabre | maybe use the ubuntu yak logo as a mask on top of our mouse :D | 21:47 |
| fliberty | lol | 21:47 |
| knome | fliberty, yep, that's the spirit, fix the animal on the last possible night | 21:47 |
| fliberty | :) | 21:48 |
| bluesabre | (I think it would work, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/yak.jpg) | 21:48 |
| bluesabre | but yeah, nothing more from me | 21:48 |
| fliberty | nor me | 21:48 |
| knome | (how are yaks and tahrs even different?) | 21:48 |
| fliberty | well | 21:48 |
| fliberty | one starts with a y for a start | 21:49 |
| bluesabre | the former is clearer to pronounce | 21:49 |
| knome | ;) | 21:49 |
| knome | #topic Discussion | 21:49 |
| knome | #subtopic Light-locker (bluesabre/flippylant) | 21:49 |
| knome | anything specific more? | 21:49 |
| fliberty | \o/ | 21:49 |
| fliberty | not that I'm aware of | 21:49 |
| bluesabre | Not much to say here, light-locker is here to stay for now, but other lockers *can* work for us in the future if we need them | 21:50 |
| knome | mhm | 21:50 |
| bluesabre | Thanks to everyone who hopped aboard the locker testing on short notice | 21:50 |
| knome | indeed, thanks people | 21:51 |
| fliberty | I'd add if we get problems with it again we should be a bit more pro-active at thinking about changing and/or involving elsewhere | 21:51 |
| fliberty | this would have been really close to the wire :D | 21:51 |
| bluesabre | indeed | 21:51 |
| knome | or make sure our systemd expert Unit193 is at hand | 21:51 |
| fliberty | :) | 21:51 |
| * bluesabre gives the badge of init-honor to Unit193 | 21:51 | |
| * fliberty gives the badge of running around shouting to akxwi-dave | 21:52 | |
| bluesabre | :D | 21:52 |
| * fliberty keeps the poke akxwi-dave with the stick to run around shouting :p | 21:53 | |
| knome | #subtopic Other discussion (and badge handings) | 21:53 |
| knome | anything else? | 21:53 |
| fliberty | oh bah | 21:53 |
| knome | (: | 21:53 |
| fliberty | could have announcemented Release Candidate | 21:53 |
| fliberty | quick sub-topic so I can do the obligatory on that please :p | 21:53 |
| bluesabre | Looking forward to next cycle, light-locker might come up again... if there were no actual issues with the systemd migration, it could be an incompatibility with light-locker or xfce and we might have to reevaluate | 21:53 |
| knome | #topic Yet another announcement section | 21:54 |
| fliberty | #info Release Candidate next week | 21:54 |
| fliberty | #action Xubuntu-team to test and report on tracker | 21:54 |
| meetingology | ACTION: Xubuntu-team to test and report on tracker | 21:54 |
| * bluesabre hopes we participate in that one | 21:54 | |
| fliberty | hah | 21:54 |
| knome | yeah | 21:54 |
| bluesabre | :D | 21:54 |
| fliberty | it was close :p | 21:54 |
| bluesabre | #nick Xubuntu-team | 21:55 |
| bluesabre | if that wasn't already done and is still required | 21:55 |
| knome | actually, the final freeze is likely not thursday :P | 21:55 |
| knome | anyway | 21:55 |
| fliberty | #action bluesabre to please double check mugshot and webcams after enabling it | 21:55 |
| meetingology | ACTION: bluesabre to please double check mugshot and webcams after enabling it | 21:55 |
| bluesabre | oh yeah | 21:55 |
| bluesabre | #action bluesabre to update development blueprints for end of cycle | 21:56 |
| meetingology | ACTION: bluesabre to update development blueprints for end of cycle | 21:56 |
| fliberty | if for no other reason than to keep the bug chugging along on notes etc | 21:56 |
| knome | anybody else wants to pop up and throw work items at bluesabre? | 21:56 |
| fliberty | oooh I'm back \o/ | 21:56 |
| knome | flocculant, you should either say something or we should #nick you | 21:56 |
| bluesabre | knome, have we started the -z- blueprints already? | 21:57 |
| flocculant | I'm back - bye fliberty | 21:57 |
| bluesabre | bye fliberty, you were a welcome presence | 21:57 |
| bluesabre | awww | 21:57 |
| bluesabre | :( | 21:57 |
| flocculant | I saaw it :D | 21:57 |
| knome | bluesabre, nope, but there's nothing stopping us from creating stuff when we have content for them | 21:57 |
| bluesabre | knome, I'll probably get started with that soon | 21:57 |
| knome | great! if you need help... | 21:58 |
| bluesabre | maybe add a bit to the release announcement that we like contributors :D | 21:58 |
| knome | so let's close this meeting | 21:58 |
| knome | #topic Schedule next meeting | 21:58 |
| knome | #action ochosi to schedule next meeting | 21:58 |
| meetingology | ACTION: ochosi to schedule next meeting | 21:58 |
| knome | #endmeeting | 21:58 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended Wed Sep 28 21:58:43 2016 UTC. | 21:58 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2016/xubuntu-devel.2016-09-28-21.32.moin.txt | 21:58 |
| bluesabre | yay | 21:58 |
| bluesabre | thanks knome! | 21:58 |
| flocculant | lets not have ochosi doing that - might want one before he returns :p | 21:58 |
| flocculant | thanks knome | 21:59 |
| knome | flocculant, he should be back tomorrow | 21:59 |
| knome | and minutes are up | 21:59 |
| knome | the wiki was blazing fast tonight | 21:59 |
| flocculant | knome: re website announcement for release - I'd perhaps like it more people orientated given wiki will be tech | 21:59 |
| knome | (no irony added) | 21:59 |
| knome | flocculant, yes, all improvement suggestions are welcome | 22:00 |
| flocculant | knome: re wiki - did you look at # on x.wiki yet? | 22:00 |
| Unit193 | Blazing == loaded within 3 minutes? | 22:00 |
| flocculant | ha ha | 22:00 |
| knome | (though we still probably want to list bugs etc) | 22:00 |
| knome | Unit193, no, loaded instantly | 22:00 |
| knome | Unit193, editing too | 22:00 |
| knome | Unit193, and saving | 22:00 |
| knome | Unit193, and creating a new page | 22:00 |
| flocculant | knome: bluesabre's contributors loved type thing | 22:00 |
| knome | flocculant, yep, that's good | 22:00 |
| flocculant | I'll probably do this cycles release note on u.w - don't have to think so much about formatting, unless I get around to editing the one I dropped on x.wiki | 22:01 |
| flocculant | of course | 22:01 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: You got the pad or do I need to search for it? | 22:01 |
| flocculant | Unit193: which ? | 22:02 |
| Unit193 | Thunar. | 22:02 |
| flocculant | https://piratenpad.de/p/thunar-patches | 22:02 |
| flocculant | http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-z-filemanager | 22:02 |
| flocculant | thjose ones? | 22:03 |
| Unit193 | Yep, first. | 22:04 |
| flocculant | k | 22:04 |
| flocculant | well - thanks for running meeting and for people turning up even though it wasn't strictly required as it turns out | 22:08 |
| flocculant | night all :) | 22:08 |
| knome | nighty flocculant | 22:08 |
| Unit193 | Slightly updated it. Something else you wanted in it, knome/ | 22:09 |
| bluesabre | night flocculant | 22:09 |
| bluesabre | thanks Unit193 | 22:09 |
| knome | i'll look a bit later | 22:09 |
| Unit193 | Sure. I have no idea what's going on. :D | 22:10 |
| knome | ;) | 22:10 |
| bluesabre | :D | 22:10 |
| -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 16.10 - i386 - i386 built. | 22:33 | |
| Unit193 | Oooh, I figured out what I was doing. | 22:34 |
| -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 16.10 - amd64 - amd64 built. | 23:20 | |
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