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| IrcsomeBot | <soumyajitpal> how to make kubuntu more smooth in my p4 1st gen config | 03:55 |
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| IrcsomeBot | <soumyajitpal> any help pls | 03:56 |
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| lordievader | Good morning. | 07:56 |
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| yossarianuk | nvidia-prime urgently needs improving.... | 08:52 |
| yossarianuk | if I didn't know what I was doing just know I would have had an unbootable laptop | 08:52 |
| yossarianuk | I switched to intel, rebooting - just had black screen, the fan went full power, a flashing character in corner of screen - unable to do anything, i.e cannot go to a tty | 08:54 |
| yossarianuk | the 'fix' was to go to rescue mode (in grub) - even that broke - i.e I got the rescue menu, but then after dropping to shell and 'mount -o rw,remount /' the menu semi loaded again and I couldn't see my text | 08:55 |
| yossarianuk | then (without being able to see) type apt-get remove nvidia-367 nvidia-prime | 08:55 |
| yossarianuk | it then loaded in the nouveau drivers which on my laptop are unstable (it will only boot once in about 20 times when using nouveau) | 08:56 |
| yossarianuk | manged randomly to boot up, then I could reinstall nvidia drivers - it is now fine. | 08:56 |
| yossarianuk | but a new user (at work) would have potentially lost a day sorting this. | 08:57 |
| yossarianuk | so my laptop model has issues with nouveau with ubuntu 16.04 (ts really unstable to the pointthat it wwon;t boot most of the time) | 08:58 |
| yossarianuk | however other distros (later kernels are fine) | 08:58 |
| yossarianuk | once I install nvidia driver its fine, usually switching to intel is also... | 08:59 |
| yossarianuk | there has to be a better way than this though as if it goes wrong (like it did) it means an unbootable system that you cannot do anything in (no tty) | 08:59 |
| yossarianuk | They way it went wrong was similar to when windows goes wrong (i.e black scree, you can do nothing) | 09:01 |
| yossarianuk | (obviously far easier to fix than windows ..) | 09:01 |
| * lordievader is glad he rarely has any problems with his AMD card on Gentoo | 09:02 | |
| yossarianuk | lordievader: I think one main issue is the fact the kernel that ubuntu 16.04 has doesn;t fully support components in my laptop... | 09:03 |
| hateball | yossarianuk: have you tried nvidia-370? it has some hybrid gpu fixes iirc | 09:03 |
| yossarianuk | in the nouveau driver | 09:03 |
| yossarianuk | hateball: when i reinstalled I did use the 370 drivers | 09:04 |
| yossarianuk | however it had worked fine previous (switching) | 09:04 |
| yossarianuk | its just the fact that switching is actually very risky.... | 09:05 |
| yossarianuk | I'll test though on 370 | 09:05 |
| yossarianuk | My main point was that a new user would probably be reinstalling the OS or giving up and going back to windows.. | 09:09 |
| hateball | Yeah well, blame hybrid gpus / nvidia | 09:10 |
| yossarianuk | sure - I am on the verge of buying a new GPU and deciding between nvidia 1060 and amd 480... | 09:10 |
| yossarianuk | seriously think about the AMD GPU, even though performance in some benchmarks show it being about 60% slower | 09:11 |
| yossarianuk | Does AMD as present (free or non-free) have Wayland support ? | 09:12 |
| hateball | If you intend to play games, then I think you will be in pain for a good while longer still if you go the AMD route | 09:12 |
| yossarianuk | or is it just intel for now? | 09:12 |
| hateball | I think amdgpu works with wayland | 09:13 |
| yossarianuk | I do play the odd game..Maybe 1060 will be my last nvidia GPU... | 09:13 |
| yossarianuk | cheers | 09:13 |
| yossarianuk | thats another reason to get AMD... | 09:13 |
| hateball | and nouveau does wayland | 09:13 |
| hateball | nvidia has implemented some weird support for wayland in the blob, but... | 09:14 |
| hateball | yossarianuk: a nice read https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2016/09/to-eglstream-or-not/ | 09:14 |
| yossarianuk | hateball: I'll avoid nouveau like the plague for now, its about 80% slower... And in my laptop it means not being able to boot about 90% of the time. | 09:14 |
| hateball | yep | 09:15 |
| hateball | at any rate, wayland isnt really ready for production anyway... | 09:15 |
| hateball | (imo) | 09:15 |
| acheronuk | nouveau works here, bug dog slow | 09:15 |
| acheronuk | *but | 09:15 |
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| yossarianuk | acheronuk: it works fine on my desktop (450 gts) - but my laptop (hybrid 960M/intel) it means barely being able to boot (its random) | 09:16 |
| yossarianuk | i mean nouveau | 09:16 |
| yossarianuk | its likely hybrid gpu related | 09:16 |
| acheronuk | yossarianuk: yeah. I just noticed on reading up. I run away fast when I see a hybrid GPU/graphics | 09:17 |
| yossarianuk | as long as the nvidia (non-free) driver is installed and I leave it in nvidia mode everything is fine... | 09:18 |
| yossarianuk | however getting to the point of being able to install nvidia is hard - installing from .iso can take a whie (due to the fact that until you have nvidia it uses nouveau which means a system that doesn't boot most of the time) | 09:19 |
| yossarianuk | so installing takes perseverance | 09:20 |
| yossarianuk | its also possible 16.10 may be ok but to newer kernel/nouveau | 09:21 |
| yossarianuk | bumblebee sounds less risky - i.e only use decrete gpu on an app.. (less likely to get unbootable desktop) - anyone know why prime method is used and not bumblebee dy default ? | 09:22 |
| hateball | I think bumblebee is deprecated | 09:22 |
| hateball | for... some reasons | 09:23 |
| hateball | much like hybrid (non-muxless) gpus should be outlawed | 09:23 |
| yossarianuk | have you all seen this systemd bug (its fairly bad) | 09:25 |
| yossarianuk | https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/how_to_crash_systemd_in_one_tweet | 09:25 |
| yossarianuk | i.e this crashes systemd in ubuntu in about 30 secs (so no one could login, it essentially dos's your pc) - while true; do NOTIFY_SOCKET=/run/systemd/notify systemd-notify ""; done | 09:26 |
| yossarianuk | as a non-root user | 09:27 |
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| yossarianuk | looks like systemd fix is out now -> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3094-1/ | 09:59 |
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| user|18352 | Hello, where i will find the drivers for my latop ? | 12:05 |
| rodolfojcj | user|18352: hello. What laptop is it? When I installed the operating system with Kubuntu, being online, the hardware detection and drivers installation was automatic | 12:09 |
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| yossarianuk | user|18352: mainly pre-installed in the kernel | 13:08 |
| yossarianuk | usually you only need to install GPU drivers, and very occasionally a wlan dfriver | 13:09 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 13:32 |
| Smurphy | hia\ | 13:40 |
| x_ | hallo | 13:58 |
| x_ | peoples | 13:58 |
| x_ | =D | 13:59 |
| x_ | Kubuntuerz | 13:59 |
| BluesKaj | hi x_ | 13:59 |
| ChetManly | I need help trying to file a bug report for DEVICE MONITOR from the system tray | 14:52 |
| BluesKaj | what abug? | 14:57 |
| inferno__ | всем привет | 14:58 |
| inferno__ | русские есть ? | 14:58 |
| BluesKaj | ChetManly, to what kind of behaviour are you referring ? | 14:58 |
| BluesKaj | !ru | inferno__ | 14:58 |
| ubottu | inferno__: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. | 14:58 |
| ChetManly | BluesKaj: your on ubuntu as well it on there | 14:59 |
| ChetManly | the channel I mean | 14:59 |
| BluesKaj | are you running kubuntu or ubuntu, ChetManly? | 15:00 |
| ChetManly | ku | 15:00 |
| BluesKaj | so you mean Ksysguard? | 15:01 |
| BluesKaj | device monitor in system tray , ok got it , ChetManly | 15:03 |
| ChetManly | yes | 15:04 |
| BluesKaj | device notifier actually | 15:04 |
| ChetManly | grrrr | 15:04 |
| ChetManly | yes | 15:04 |
| ChetManly | terrible names lol | 15:05 |
| ChetManly | someone from #kde told me monitor | 15:05 |
| ChetManly | its a really bad bug thou | 15:06 |
| BluesKaj | do you have automount enabled in system settings>removable devices? | 15:06 |
| ChetManly | youre in kde too you can see the explanation | 15:07 |
| BluesKaj | i haven't seen any problems with my other drives | 15:07 |
| BluesKaj | I saw your expalanation , i just haven't seen the same problem | 15:08 |
| BluesKaj | on my system | 15:08 |
| ChetManly | I have a shared dual boot ntfs drive that I shared files between windows and kubuntu and when plug my phone in and use device notifier it mixes up the files between the phone and the nfts drive | 15:09 |
| ChetManly | like very bad | 15:10 |
| ChetManly | if I unplug the ntfs drive or just use MS windows the problem does not exist | 15:10 |
| BluesKaj | ChetManly,, try kdeconnect instead | 15:10 |
| ChetManly | when I buy a better bluetooth I will | 15:11 |
| BluesKaj | no bluetooth needed | 15:11 |
| ChetManly | I do not care to use wifi | 15:11 |
| BluesKaj | just widi thru the phone to the router | 15:12 |
| BluesKaj | wifi | 15:12 |
| ChetManly | its weird thou because dolphin called by itself does not make the issue appear | 15:13 |
| BluesKaj | unmount the ntfs when using linux and vice versa | 15:19 |
| ChetManly | .... | 15:21 |
| ChetManly | I need to figure out how to take parts of older and new kde and plop them into my current | 15:22 |
| BluesKaj | i transferred 5.6GB of photos from my laptop to my phone via usb a few days ago and there were no mix ups | 15:23 |
| ChetManly | wonder if I can just reformat the drive and it wouldnt happen | 15:24 |
| ChetManly | I was thinking about fat32 aswell | 15:24 |
| BluesKaj | don't see the point in that | 15:25 |
| ChetManly | why | 15:25 |
| BluesKaj | it's not relevant | 15:26 |
| ChetManly | what fat?? | 15:28 |
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| IrcsomeBot | Constantinos Maltezos was added by: Constantinos Maltezos | 17:12 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Constantinos Maltezos> good morning/afternoon/evening, depending on what it is where you are | 17:12 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Constantinos Maltezos> I was wondering if anyone knew about the way Yakuake (possibly other terminal emulators, as well) will restart my terminal session after a few minutes of not using? | 17:14 |
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| KubuntuNoob | Hey Guys, I have a question. I have a Qt program wich i start with the Terminal. Is there a way to start it without the terminal? :) | 18:05 |
| KubuntuNoob | Does anyone know how i can start a Qt-program? | 18:07 |
| genii | KubuntuNoob: Rightclick on K-menu, "Edit Applications", navigate to where you'd like it to appear, then "New Item" , give it a name.Then on the right side put app path/name in box labelled "Command" | 18:16 |
| genii | ...and gone.. | 18:16 |
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| soee | genii: gone ? | 18:36 |
| soee | did you saved changes ? | 18:36 |
| genii | soee: KubuntuNoob, they left before I finished explaining how to add their program to the menu | 18:36 |
| soee | ah :D | 18:38 |
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| soverx | Приветвсем =) | 19:56 |
| soverx | hi all =) | 19:56 |
| soverx | :) | 19:56 |
| soverx | ꝏꝏꝎꝎꜴꜴꜴ | 19:58 |
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| TheBluestJay | hello? | 20:11 |
| Simonious | You are not alone. | 20:12 |
| TheBluestJay | Oh hi! lol | 20:12 |
| Simonious | o/ | 20:12 |
| TheBluestJay | So I'm new to kubuntu and I have little idea of how to get help. | 20:13 |
| Simonious | I'm no expert, I'm limping along on a problem right now myself | 20:13 |
| Simonious | lots of googling | 20:13 |
| Simonious | trying, failing, trying again | 20:13 |
| Simonious | you know.. the usual road to success | 20:13 |
| TheBluestJay | Yep... -.-" | 20:13 |
| Simonious | What are you looking for the 'easy button' on? | 20:14 |
| TheBluestJay | No. lol | 20:14 |
| TheBluestJay | Hello faLUCE | 20:14 |
| faLUCE | hello TheBluestJay | 20:15 |
| TheBluestJay | Soooo, this is were you get support on Kubuntu right? | 20:15 |
| Simonious | well, if you luck out, yes - otherwise lots of googling | 20:16 |
| TheBluestJay | Ahhh. I see. What's your computer problem Simonious? | 20:17 |
| TheBluestJay | I mean computer problem. lol | 20:17 |
| Simonious | I've got ubuntu on a beaglebone and it's not bringing up the wlan, though I can see the wlan usb dongle | 20:17 |
| TheBluestJay | Huh, felt like I've had a similar problem... brb... | 20:18 |
| TheBluestJay | Err... nevermind. I was thinking of something else. Heh... | 20:19 |
| valorie | Simonious: I suggest asking in #ubuntu because it's a bigger channel, and that doesn't sound like a kubuntu issue | 20:20 |
| Simonious | valorie: I wasn't asking :) Just answering TheBluestJay ;) | 20:21 |
| valorie | sorry about that | 20:21 |
| valorie | google found this: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/9KCIs7yqsa8 | 20:22 |
| Simonious | no need to be sorry, thanks for your suggestion | 20:22 |
| Simonious | I'll check it out | 20:22 |
| TheBluestJay | My problem isn't nearly as complicated as beaglebone. It's a bluetooth problem. Im using Kubuntu 16.04 trying to connect a wiimote device. But for some reason the bluetooth manager isn't picking up anything. | 20:24 |
| TheBluestJay | I've installed xwiimote but still nothing. -.-" | 20:24 |
| valorie | does it suggest pairing on one end or the other? | 20:26 |
| TheBluestJay | Nope. | 20:27 |
| valorie | so they are ignoring one another | 20:27 |
| valorie | I wonder if it can be a channel issue? | 20:27 |
| TheBluestJay | Pretty much. | 20:27 |
| valorie | bluetooth in general Just Works | 20:28 |
| valorie | !bluetooth | 20:28 |
| ubottu | For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup | 20:28 |
| valorie | you might go through that step by step and see if anything is missing | 20:28 |
| TheBluestJay | OK, ubottu and valorie. | 20:28 |
| valorie | could be a software switch is off somewhere too | 20:28 |
| valorie | heh, ubottu is our faithful bot | 20:28 |
| TheBluestJay | lol! derp | 20:29 |
| TheBluestJay | hold on a sec valorie... | 20:30 |
| TheBluestJay | I have BlueZ 5.37, Latest version of xWiimote, bluetooth is enabled using Kubuntus default bluetooth manager... | 20:32 |
| valorie | I have no expertise | 20:32 |
| valorie | like I said, it Just Works | 20:33 |
| TheBluestJay | Mkay, understood. I appreciate your help though. ^-^ | 20:33 |
| TheBluestJay | So why are you here Valorie? | 20:35 |
| TheBluestJay | Yello somekool. | 20:36 |
| valorie | why am I here? | 20:38 |
| valorie | it's a help chan, and I help out where I can | 20:38 |
| valorie | same as anybody | 20:39 |
| TheBluestJay | Valorie: like do you require computer assistance or are you here to help out. | 20:39 |
| TheBluestJay | That's what I meant. | 20:39 |
| somekool | Yellow Yellow TheBluestJay | 20:39 |
| valorie | ah, I ask for help sometimes as well | 20:40 |
| valorie | however, I've been running linux since 2001 | 20:40 |
| valorie | and kubuntu for a long, long time | 20:40 |
| TheBluestJay | @valorie: oh ok. Coolio. | 20:40 |
| valorie | and yourself? | 20:41 |
| TheBluestJay | I've discovered linux about last year and fell in love with it. My first linux system was Elementary OS. | 20:41 |
| TheBluestJay | Then I discoverd Ubuntu then Kubuntu and never looked back. | 20:42 |
| valorie | very nice | 20:42 |
| TheBluestJay | So when I bought my Dell XPS 15 I immediately installed Kubuntu. Kinda hate Windows now. lol | 20:43 |
| Simonious | yeah, but hard to run solidworks and sketchup w/o windows | 20:44 |
| valorie | make a Win VM? | 20:44 |
| TheBluestJay | Solidworks? Sketchup? | 20:45 |
| TheBluestJay | No idea what you're talking about. ^-^" | 20:45 |
| TheBluestJay | hello vineet_ | 20:45 |
| TheBluestJay | I don't necessarily need a Windows VM. Anything I need I can get on Linux. | 20:47 |
| TheBluestJay | Although, kinda sucks that I can't use the Unity 3D engine program. But a linux version is in developement so I can wait. | 20:48 |
| somekool | I'm quite happy i don't need anything from windows... actually most software i use run on top of Qt, which makes me even more happy | 20:48 |
| TheBluestJay | Yep! | 20:49 |
| TheBluestJay | Hello sayakb! | 20:49 |
| valorie | yeah, unless I have to sit down at my husband's computer, I don't use windows for anything, anymore | 20:50 |
| valorie | TheBluestJay: this is a help channel, so it is inappropriate to greet everyone as they join | 20:50 |
| valorie | for general chat, please join #kubuntu-offtopic | 20:51 |
| TheBluestJay | valorie: My apologies. | 20:51 |
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| TheBluestJay | Welp, Ima go now. Going to mess around in the system and figure this bluetooth problem out. | 20:58 |
| karl_ | Hello | 21:34 |
| FreeFog | HI sorry to bother i'm tring to setup my ubuntu pc, and im unsure about my SSD compatibility , using Kubuntu 16.04 kernet 4.4 and Crucial M550, which apears black listed on https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/e64f638483a21105c7ce330d543fa1f1c35b5bc7/drivers/ata/libata-core.c#L4109-L4286 | 22:35 |
| valorie | FreeFog: when you try the liveUSB, and open up a terminal, does it detect your SSD? | 22:41 |
| FreeFog | yes | 22:41 |
| FreeFog | What I would like to konw is the proper way to check for issues, as the link I pasted here is old | 22:44 |
| FreeFog | and then how should adress such issues | 22:44 |
| valorie | I would check in a live session to see if everything works as expected | 22:45 |
| valorie | if it does, then you are good to install | 22:46 |
| FreeFog | What tests do u recommend me doing in the live session? | 22:49 |
| FreeFog | (Thanks for your time) | 22:50 |
| valorie | FreeFog: do control + alt + f2, which takes you to a terminal | 22:52 |
| FreeFog | already there | 22:53 |
| valorie | control + alt + f7 usually brings you back | 22:53 |
| somekool | or alt-right_arrow a bunch of times ;) | 22:54 |
| valorie | oh, I've never tried that one, somekool | 22:55 |
| FreeFog | ajam? whats next? | 22:58 |
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