=== pavlushka is now known as Guest51462 === Guest51462 is now known as pavlushka [03:55] how to make kubuntu more smooth in my p4 1st gen config [03:56] any help pls === keithzg is now known as keithzg_at_home [07:56] Good morning. === HmpfCBR_ is now known as HmpfCBR === mcox is now known as yossarianuk [08:52] nvidia-prime urgently needs improving.... [08:52] if I didn't know what I was doing just know I would have had an unbootable laptop [08:54] I switched to intel, rebooting - just had black screen, the fan went full power, a flashing character in corner of screen - unable to do anything, i.e cannot go to a tty [08:55] the 'fix' was to go to rescue mode (in grub) - even that broke - i.e I got the rescue menu, but then after dropping to shell and 'mount -o rw,remount /' the menu semi loaded again and I couldn't see my text [08:55] then (without being able to see) type apt-get remove nvidia-367 nvidia-prime [08:56] it then loaded in the nouveau drivers which on my laptop are unstable (it will only boot once in about 20 times when using nouveau) [08:56] manged randomly to boot up, then I could reinstall nvidia drivers - it is now fine. [08:57] but a new user (at work) would have potentially lost a day sorting this. [08:58] so my laptop model has issues with nouveau with ubuntu 16.04 (ts really unstable to the pointthat it wwon;t boot most of the time) [08:58] however other distros (later kernels are fine) [08:59] once I install nvidia driver its fine, usually switching to intel is also... [08:59] there has to be a better way than this though as if it goes wrong (like it did) it means an unbootable system that you cannot do anything in (no tty) [09:01] They way it went wrong was similar to when windows goes wrong (i.e black scree, you can do nothing) [09:01] (obviously far easier to fix than windows ..) [09:02] * lordievader is glad he rarely has any problems with his AMD card on Gentoo [09:03] lordievader: I think one main issue is the fact the kernel that ubuntu 16.04 has doesn;t fully support components in my laptop... [09:03] yossarianuk: have you tried nvidia-370? it has some hybrid gpu fixes iirc [09:03] in the nouveau driver [09:04] hateball: when i reinstalled I did use the 370 drivers [09:04] however it had worked fine previous (switching) [09:05] its just the fact that switching is actually very risky.... [09:05] I'll test though on 370 [09:09] My main point was that a new user would probably be reinstalling the OS or giving up and going back to windows.. [09:10] Yeah well, blame hybrid gpus / nvidia [09:10] sure - I am on the verge of buying a new GPU and deciding between nvidia 1060 and amd 480... [09:11] seriously think about the AMD GPU, even though performance in some benchmarks show it being about 60% slower [09:12] Does AMD as present (free or non-free) have Wayland support ? [09:12] If you intend to play games, then I think you will be in pain for a good while longer still if you go the AMD route [09:12] or is it just intel for now? [09:13] I think amdgpu works with wayland [09:13] I do play the odd game..Maybe 1060 will be my last nvidia GPU... [09:13] cheers [09:13] thats another reason to get AMD... [09:13] and nouveau does wayland [09:14] nvidia has implemented some weird support for wayland in the blob, but... [09:14] yossarianuk: a nice read https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2016/09/to-eglstream-or-not/ [09:14] hateball: I'll avoid nouveau like the plague for now, its about 80% slower... And in my laptop it means not being able to boot about 90% of the time. [09:15] yep [09:15] at any rate, wayland isnt really ready for production anyway... [09:15] (imo) [09:15] nouveau works here, bug dog slow [09:15] *but === heinkel_111 is now known as heinkel_flying [09:16] acheronuk: it works fine on my desktop (450 gts) - but my laptop (hybrid 960M/intel) it means barely being able to boot (its random) [09:16] i mean nouveau [09:16] its likely hybrid gpu related [09:17] yossarianuk: yeah. I just noticed on reading up. I run away fast when I see a hybrid GPU/graphics [09:18] as long as the nvidia (non-free) driver is installed and I leave it in nvidia mode everything is fine... [09:19] however getting to the point of being able to install nvidia is hard - installing from .iso can take a whie (due to the fact that until you have nvidia it uses nouveau which means a system that doesn't boot most of the time) [09:20] so installing takes perseverance [09:21] its also possible 16.10 may be ok but to newer kernel/nouveau [09:22] bumblebee sounds less risky - i.e only use decrete gpu on an app.. (less likely to get unbootable desktop) - anyone know why prime method is used and not bumblebee dy default ? [09:22] I think bumblebee is deprecated [09:23] for... some reasons [09:23] much like hybrid (non-muxless) gpus should be outlawed [09:25] have you all seen this systemd bug (its fairly bad) [09:25] https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/how_to_crash_systemd_in_one_tweet [09:26] i.e this crashes systemd in ubuntu in about 30 secs (so no one could login, it essentially dos's your pc) - while true; do NOTIFY_SOCKET=/run/systemd/notify systemd-notify ""; done [09:27] as a non-root user === Seviish is now known as Sevish === heinkel_flying is now known as heinkel_111 [09:59] looks like systemd fix is out now -> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3094-1/ === heinkel_111 is now known as heinkel_flying === heinkel_flying is now known as heinkel_111 [12:05] Hello, where i will find the drivers for my latop ? [12:09] user|18352: hello. What laptop is it? When I installed the operating system with Kubuntu, being online, the hardware detection and drivers installation was automatic === Dragonslicer is now known as Dragnslcr === heinkel_111 is now known as heinkel_flying === heinkel_flying is now known as heinkel_111 [13:08] user|18352: mainly pre-installed in the kernel [13:09] usually you only need to install GPU drivers, and very occasionally a wlan dfriver === alexis is now known as Guest76436 [13:32] Hi folks [13:40] hia\ [13:58] hallo [13:58] peoples [13:59] =D [13:59] Kubuntuerz [13:59] hi x_ [14:52] I need help trying to file a bug report for DEVICE MONITOR from the system tray [14:57] what abug? [14:58] всем привет [14:58] русские есть ? [14:58] ChetManly, to what kind of behaviour are you referring ? [14:58] !ru | inferno__ [14:58] inferno__: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. [14:59] BluesKaj: your on ubuntu as well it on there [14:59] the channel I mean [15:00] are you running kubuntu or ubuntu, ChetManly? [15:00] ku [15:01] so you mean Ksysguard? [15:03] device monitor in system tray , ok got it , ChetManly [15:04] yes [15:04] device notifier actually [15:04] grrrr [15:04] yes [15:05] terrible names lol [15:05] someone from #kde told me monitor [15:06] its a really bad bug thou [15:06] do you have automount enabled in system settings>removable devices? [15:07] youre in kde too you can see the explanation [15:07] i haven't seen any problems with my other drives [15:08] I saw your expalanation , i just haven't seen the same problem [15:08] on my system [15:09] I have a shared dual boot ntfs drive that I shared files between windows and kubuntu and when plug my phone in and use device notifier it mixes up the files between the phone and the nfts drive [15:10] like very bad [15:10] if I unplug the ntfs drive or just use MS windows the problem does not exist [15:10] ChetManly,, try kdeconnect instead [15:11] when I buy a better bluetooth I will [15:11] no bluetooth needed [15:11] I do not care to use wifi [15:12] just widi thru the phone to the router [15:12] wifi [15:13] its weird thou because dolphin called by itself does not make the issue appear [15:19] unmount the ntfs when using linux and vice versa [15:21] .... [15:22] I need to figure out how to take parts of older and new kde and plop them into my current [15:23] i transferred 5.6GB of photos from my laptop to my phone via usb a few days ago and there were no mix ups [15:24] wonder if I can just reformat the drive and it wouldnt happen [15:24] I was thinking about fat32 aswell [15:25] don't see the point in that [15:25] why [15:26] it's not relevant [15:28] what fat?? === bigdaddy is now known as upstateman === heinkel_111 is now known as heinkel_flying [17:12] Constantinos Maltezos was added by: Constantinos Maltezos [17:12] good morning/afternoon/evening, depending on what it is where you are [17:14] I was wondering if anyone knew about the way Yakuake (possibly other terminal emulators, as well) will restart my terminal session after a few minutes of not using? === pavlushka is now known as Guest94932 === Guest94932 is now known as pavlushka === heinkel_flying is now known as heinkel_111 [18:05] Hey Guys, I have a question. I have a Qt program wich i start with the Terminal. Is there a way to start it without the terminal? :) [18:07] Does anyone know how i can start a Qt-program? [18:16] KubuntuNoob: Rightclick on K-menu, "Edit Applications", navigate to where you'd like it to appear, then "New Item" , give it a name.Then on the right side put app path/name in box labelled "Command" [18:16] ...and gone.. === x_ is now known as SlowPC [18:36] genii: gone ? [18:36] did you saved changes ? [18:36] soee: KubuntuNoob, they left before I finished explaining how to add their program to the menu [18:38] ah :D === heinkel_111 is now known as heinkel_flying === JosefFilzmaier_ is now known as JosefFilzmaier [19:56] Приветвсем =) [19:56] hi all =) [19:56] :) [19:58] ꝏꝏꝎꝎꜴꜴꜴ === Tundra is now known as Tundra-Test [20:11] hello? [20:12] You are not alone. [20:12] Oh hi! lol [20:12] o/ [20:13] So I'm new to kubuntu and I have little idea of how to get help. [20:13] I'm no expert, I'm limping along on a problem right now myself [20:13] lots of googling [20:13] trying, failing, trying again [20:13] you know.. the usual road to success [20:13] Yep... -.-" [20:14] What are you looking for the 'easy button' on? [20:14] No. lol [20:14] Hello faLUCE [20:15] hello TheBluestJay [20:15] Soooo, this is were you get support on Kubuntu right? [20:16] well, if you luck out, yes - otherwise lots of googling [20:17] Ahhh. I see. What's your computer problem Simonious? [20:17] I mean computer problem. lol [20:17] I've got ubuntu on a beaglebone and it's not bringing up the wlan, though I can see the wlan usb dongle [20:18] Huh, felt like I've had a similar problem... brb... [20:19] Err... nevermind. I was thinking of something else. Heh... [20:20] Simonious: I suggest asking in #ubuntu because it's a bigger channel, and that doesn't sound like a kubuntu issue [20:21] valorie: I wasn't asking :) Just answering TheBluestJay ;) [20:21] sorry about that [20:22] google found this: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/9KCIs7yqsa8 [20:22] no need to be sorry, thanks for your suggestion [20:22] I'll check it out [20:24] My problem isn't nearly as complicated as beaglebone. It's a bluetooth problem. Im using Kubuntu 16.04 trying to connect a wiimote device. But for some reason the bluetooth manager isn't picking up anything. [20:24] I've installed xwiimote but still nothing. -.-" [20:26] does it suggest pairing on one end or the other? [20:27] Nope. [20:27] so they are ignoring one another [20:27] I wonder if it can be a channel issue? [20:27] Pretty much. [20:28] bluetooth in general Just Works [20:28] !bluetooth [20:28] For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup [20:28] you might go through that step by step and see if anything is missing [20:28] OK, ubottu and valorie. [20:28] could be a software switch is off somewhere too [20:28] heh, ubottu is our faithful bot [20:29] lol! derp [20:30] hold on a sec valorie... [20:32] I have BlueZ 5.37, Latest version of xWiimote, bluetooth is enabled using Kubuntus default bluetooth manager... [20:32] I have no expertise [20:33] like I said, it Just Works [20:33] Mkay, understood. I appreciate your help though. ^-^ [20:35] So why are you here Valorie? [20:36] Yello somekool. [20:38] why am I here? [20:38] it's a help chan, and I help out where I can [20:39] same as anybody [20:39] Valorie: like do you require computer assistance or are you here to help out. [20:39] That's what I meant. [20:39] Yellow Yellow TheBluestJay [20:40] ah, I ask for help sometimes as well [20:40] however, I've been running linux since 2001 [20:40] and kubuntu for a long, long time [20:40] @valorie: oh ok. Coolio. [20:41] and yourself? [20:41] I've discovered linux about last year and fell in love with it. My first linux system was Elementary OS. [20:42] Then I discoverd Ubuntu then Kubuntu and never looked back. [20:42] very nice [20:43] So when I bought my Dell XPS 15 I immediately installed Kubuntu. Kinda hate Windows now. lol [20:44] yeah, but hard to run solidworks and sketchup w/o windows [20:44] make a Win VM? [20:45] Solidworks? Sketchup? [20:45] No idea what you're talking about. ^-^" [20:45] hello vineet_ [20:47] I don't necessarily need a Windows VM. Anything I need I can get on Linux. [20:48] Although, kinda sucks that I can't use the Unity 3D engine program. But a linux version is in developement so I can wait. [20:48] I'm quite happy i don't need anything from windows... actually most software i use run on top of Qt, which makes me even more happy [20:49] Yep! [20:49] Hello sayakb! [20:50] yeah, unless I have to sit down at my husband's computer, I don't use windows for anything, anymore [20:50] TheBluestJay: this is a help channel, so it is inappropriate to greet everyone as they join [20:51] for general chat, please join #kubuntu-offtopic [20:51] valorie: My apologies. === heinkel_flying is now known as heinkel_111 [20:58] Welp, Ima go now. Going to mess around in the system and figure this bluetooth problem out. [21:34] Hello [22:35] HI sorry to bother i'm tring to setup my ubuntu pc, and im unsure about my SSD compatibility , using Kubuntu 16.04 kernet 4.4 and Crucial M550, which apears black listed on https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/e64f638483a21105c7ce330d543fa1f1c35b5bc7/drivers/ata/libata-core.c#L4109-L4286 [22:41] FreeFog: when you try the liveUSB, and open up a terminal, does it detect your SSD? [22:41] yes [22:44] What I would like to konw is the proper way to check for issues, as the link I pasted here is old [22:44] and then how should adress such issues [22:45] I would check in a live session to see if everything works as expected [22:46] if it does, then you are good to install [22:49] What tests do u recommend me doing in the live session? [22:50] (Thanks for your time) [22:52] FreeFog: do control + alt + f2, which takes you to a terminal [22:53] already there [22:53] control + alt + f7 usually brings you back [22:54] or alt-right_arrow a bunch of times ;) [22:55] oh, I've never tried that one, somekool [22:58] ajam? whats next?