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| londongrl | http://www.renegadetribune.com/jewish-project-white-genocide/ | 03:53 |
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| evnmatt | More White genocide, evil Jew spam? | 03:58 |
| evnmatt | Cool it with the antisemitism, guys. | 03:59 |
| tsimonq2 | +1 evnmatt | 04:01 |
| evnmatt | tsimonq2, http://www.renegadetribune.com/jewish-project-white-genocide/ <-- this is the link that was posted? | 04:02 |
| tsimonq2 | correct evnmatt | 04:03 |
| evnmatt | Thank you. I'm looking into it. | 04:03 |
| evnmatt | It appears to be from an "alternative right" website. | 04:03 |
| evnmatt | tsimonq2, http://www.renegadetribune.com/realizing-hitler-right/ | 04:04 |
| evnmatt | tsimonq2, Here they have an article glorifying Hitler. | 04:04 |
| tsimonq2 | evnmatt: this isn't the place to discuss this (if you wish to), could you head over to #lubuntu-offtopic? | 04:06 |
| evnmatt | I want the poster of that content BANISHED from here. | 04:07 |
| morriswaker | Anyone seen that new Denial film by Becker Street? | 06:53 |
| kyle | hello | 08:59 |
| kyle | im trying to use the os | 08:59 |
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| Guest2476 | i believe i have installed correct but i have hit a stop | 09:00 |
| Guest2476 | i only see a cmd screen and it keeps asking me to login | 09:01 |
| Guest2476 | when i do, it stays in cmd mode and i see nothing else | 09:02 |
| Guest2476 | hello? | 09:02 |
| Guest2476 | naeil | 09:03 |
| Guest2476 | hello? | 09:03 |
| kyle69649 | join | 09:15 |
| kyle69649 | hello i need help | 09:16 |
| kyle69649 | can anyone help | 09:17 |
| kyle69649 | i can not get passed log in | 09:17 |
| leszek | kyle69649: just ask a concrete question and you'll see | 09:17 |
| kyle69649 | i am stuck in cmd | 09:17 |
| kyle69649 | screen askes for login then password and it looks like ms cmd screen | 09:18 |
| leszek | kyle69649: You are able to login via the tty terminal and see a command line instead of the GUI ? | 09:18 |
| kyle69649 | how | 09:18 |
| kyle69649 | yes | 09:18 |
| kyle69649 | yes | 09:19 |
| leszek | kyle69649: the live system worked fine for you ? | 09:19 |
| kyle69649 | that was what came up when i started the computer | 09:19 |
| kyle69649 | no i did a usb install | 09:19 |
| leszek | you did a usb install from the live system or the alternate text installer ? | 09:19 |
| Naeil | what version of Lubuntu you are running kyle69649 | 09:20 |
| kyle69649 | i did that and got through that then said had to resart | 09:20 |
| kyle69649 | so i did. now im here | 09:20 |
| leszek | kyle69649: so in general the graphics card is recognized. Did you try restarting already (entering the command sudo reboot) | 09:20 |
| kyle69649 | im running the 14.00 something | 09:20 |
| leszek | 14.04 seems pretty old | 09:20 |
| leszek | the current version is 16.04 | 09:20 |
| kyle69649 | ill try restart again | 09:20 |
| Naeil | it still supported the 14.04 no problem with that. Try to restart and let us know if you still facing the same problem. | 09:21 |
| kyle69649 | ok sys is rebooting | 09:21 |
| leszek | Naeil: if it is 14.04 and not 14.10 | 09:21 |
| kyle69649 | ill let you know in a second | 09:22 |
| kyle69649 | yes, is 14.04.5 | 09:22 |
| leszek | ok that is an LTS version so it is still supported until 2019 at max | 09:22 |
| kyle69649 | and still is prompting via a cmd screen | 09:23 |
| leszek | kyle69649: try login again and executing: sudo service restart lightdm | 09:24 |
| Naeil | ^ | 09:24 |
| leszek | hopefully that brings you to the graphical login manager | 09:24 |
| kyle69649 | ok im logged in and trying | 09:24 |
| kyle69649 | wait one | 09:25 |
| kyle69649 | is that exactly what to input into the line? i just tried that and gotunrecognized service | 09:27 |
| Naeil | dpkg -l | grep lightdm | 09:28 |
| Naeil | paste your output to paste.ubuntu.com | 09:28 |
| kyle69649 | im using side by side. im talking here via a windows 10, other pc is next to me. how can i paste.. other than copy and input | 09:31 |
| Naeil | ah okay just tell me what you see then | 09:31 |
| LuMint | Naeil: would be easier with | gist-paste | 09:32 |
| kyle69649 | when i typed inthe last cmd (grep lightdm) it responded with like a free type thing and there was no more IO it was just type | 09:34 |
| kyle69649 | i restarted again and am back at login | 09:34 |
| kyle69649 | i will type in my login | 09:35 |
| LuMint | free type thing? what's that? | 09:35 |
| Naeil | I am sorry I don't follow! | 09:35 |
| LuMint | kyle69649: you should for the command to finish. It may take up to 2 minutes if your hardware is old | 09:35 |
| kyle69649 | i could type and there was just it. no output other than that | 09:35 |
| LuMint | ^ld^ld wait | 09:35 |
| LuMint | kyle69649: dpkg -l | grep lightdm | gist-paste | 09:36 |
| LuMint | kyle69649: wait till it gives you a link. | 09:36 |
| Naeil | LuMint, if I am not mistaken he can't connect :) | 09:36 |
| kyle69649 | im running a net book. dell latitude 2110 | 09:37 |
| LuMint | kyle69649: do you have internet connection? | 09:37 |
| kyle69649 | its a light work laptop i picked up at auction | 09:37 |
| LuMint | i'm not familiar with its specs. | 09:38 |
| kyle69649 | yes via wifi. should i use hardline for the moment? | 09:38 |
| LuMint | says nothing to me really. apart from you the fact you probably need to wait up to 2 minutes | 09:38 |
| LuMint | ^you | 09:38 |
| LuMint | kyle69649: did you say dpkg -l | grep lightdm | gist-paste and wait for several minutes? | 09:38 |
| kyle69649 | well by our standard very low powered its dell and stock | 09:39 |
| kyle69649 | i will try. wait one | 09:39 |
| LuMint | actually, it shouldn't be like this... does dpkg -l work? | 09:41 |
| kyle69649 | ya i got error on last, ill try that , wait one | 09:42 |
| kyle69649 | i tried dpkg SPACE -1 | 09:43 |
| kyle69649 | dpkg-1 | 09:43 |
| kyle69649 | nothing on both | 09:43 |
| kyle69649 | the first one was unknown option -1 | 09:44 |
| LuMint | are you sure you are logged in? | 09:44 |
| LuMint | what do you mean -1 | 09:45 |
| LuMint | it's -l | 09:45 |
| LuMint | not -1 | 09:45 |
| LuMint | as in Letter | 09:45 |
| LuMint | Lima | 09:45 |
| kyle69649 | ...oh | 09:45 |
| kyle69649 | l | 09:45 |
| kyle69649 | ok | 09:45 |
| kyle69649 | trying.. | 09:45 |
| LuMint | it stands for list... | 09:45 |
| LuMint | you are basically telling the package manager to list all packages... | 09:46 |
| kyle69649 | holy FBALLS | 09:46 |
| kyle69649 | got long list | 09:46 |
| LuMint | kyle69649: just like in Matrix, huh? | 09:46 |
| kyle69649 | ya | 09:46 |
| LuMint | now you're a h4x0r | 09:46 |
| LuMint | dpkg -l | grep lightdm | gist-paste | 09:46 |
| kyle69649 | trying, wait one.. | 09:47 |
| kyle69649 | program gist-paste is not intalled.......blah blah | 09:48 |
| LuMint | never mind gist paste, dpkg -l | grep lightdm | 09:48 |
| kyle69649 | ok | 09:49 |
| kyle69649 | ok sofar i have some red lettering and other | 09:51 |
| kyle69649 | its a list of... | 09:51 |
| kyle69649 | looks like files | 09:52 |
| kyle69649 | liblightdm-gobject-1-0 1.10.6-Oubuntu1 i386 LightDM Gobject client library | 09:54 |
| kyle69649 | that was suposed to be a full line across | 09:55 |
| kyle69649 | but the list continues with a few other things and then is now waiting for another cmd | 09:55 |
| kyle69649 | are you still here? | 09:57 |
| kyle69649 | hello? | 10:01 |
| leszek | kyle69649: its important that lightdm is listed as installed | 10:03 |
| leszek | or lightdm-gtk | 10:03 |
| kyle69649 | lightdm comes up with only root can run light display manager. to run as regular user for testing run with the -- test-mode flag. | 10:06 |
| kyle69649 | lightdm-gtk could not be found (cmd) | 10:06 |
| LuMint | kyle69649: try starx | 10:07 |
| LuMint | kyle69649: that should start the X server | 10:07 |
| LuMint | kyle69649: it's basically what lightdm should do, but you can do it manually just as well. | 10:08 |
| kyle69649 | tried starx, got nothing. tried startx and got... | 10:09 |
| kyle69649 | xauthority does not exist | 10:10 |
| kyle69649 | a listing of the xserver data | 10:10 |
| LuMint | Naeil: I've no idea here | 10:10 |
| LuMint | kyle69649: try xorg-reconfigure | 10:11 |
| leszek | kyle69649: and the sudo service lightdm restart does not bring up the graphical login manager ? | 10:11 |
| LuMint | google the command and try it. | 10:11 |
| kyle69649 | ya i think i may just try downloading the new os. | 10:11 |
| leszek | sudo service lightdm restart | 10:11 |
| kyle69649 | ill try xorg | 10:11 |
| kyle69649 | wait one | 10:11 |
| leszek | that won't work or bring anything as xorg won't start a window manager/desktop | 10:11 |
| kyle69649 | not what i meant. i abreviated. i appoligise | 10:12 |
| kyle69649 | but i tried the cmd and didnt work. | 10:13 |
| kyle69649 | im trying the second | 10:13 |
| LuMint | leszek: why wouldn't it? | 10:14 |
| kyle69649 | ok so i got unknown instance when i typed in the sudo service lightdm restart | 10:16 |
| kyle69649 | and now i got nothin.. i have blinking cursor that wont type.. thanks gents, im going to try back at square one and install 16 ver. | 10:17 |
| kyle69649 | it will take a while but ill look for ya if i get somewhere | 10:18 |
| LuMint | kyle69649: yeah, it should be like that. I'm pretty positive it's not a driver issue. | 10:18 |
| LuMint | *shouldnt | 10:18 |
| Naeil | back | 10:18 |
| Naeil | kyle69649, I think you format and install Lubuntu another time will be a good chance to work | 10:19 |
| Naeil | Follow a good tutorial to install it | 10:19 |
| leszek | LuMint: Xorg itself launches only the Xserver but does not execute anything so you will get X with the X cursor thats all | 10:19 |
| leszek | kyle69649: before wiping try looking into /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if there is any line starting with E: which means error | 10:20 |
| leszek | maybe something useful there that explains why it won't start | 10:20 |
| LuMint | leszek: so basically if Xserver's configs are screwed, no WM/DE will be hooked? | 10:20 |
| LuMint | Naeil: leszek i think xorg-reconfigure might work | 10:21 |
| leszek | LuMint: even if they aren't screwed thats what Xorg does only. Its not there for loading WMs/DEs | 10:21 |
| leszek | Its like pulseaudio. It of itself cannot play music. It is just a music server. And so is Xorg | 10:22 |
| LuMint | what launches DEs and WMs, then? | 10:25 |
| LuMint | why is it when i startx, DE launches as well? | 10:25 |
| LuMint | if it's not the responsibility of xorg | 10:25 |
| kyle69649 | what is de | 10:25 |
| kyle69649 | what is wm | 10:26 |
| kyle69649 | forgive my ignorance, i dont know computing syntax or jargon like you do. i barely learned ruby | 10:28 |
| LuMint | desktop environment | 10:30 |
| LuMint | windows manager | 10:30 |
| kyle69649 | ok | 10:30 |
| kyle69649 | thank you | 10:30 |
| LuMint | something win explorer is responsive for | 10:30 |
| LuMint | desktop environment is a set of programs | 10:30 |
| LuMint | kyle69649: lxde is a desktop environment | 10:31 |
| LuMint | kyle69649: it includes various software like text editor, browser etc. | 10:31 |
| kyle69649 | is the use of 21st century socialisms inapropriate in this environment ie(lol) | 10:31 |
| LuMint | kyle69649: it also includes the menu at the bottom of your page | 10:31 |
| kyle69649 | ah | 10:31 |
| LuMint | this component is called lxpanel | 10:32 |
| LuMint | you can disable it if you do't like it and still have the rest of your DE | 10:32 |
| kyle69649 | i saw ldxe and was able to note that. | 10:32 |
| LuMint | openbox only provides minimal experience which is pretty enough if you ask me. | 10:32 |
| kyle69649 | lxde | 10:32 |
| LuMint | for a purely openbox system you can try searching in youtube for crunchbang reviews | 10:33 |
| LuMint | or bunsenlabs | 10:33 |
| LuMint | openbox is a WM | 10:33 |
| kyle69649 | ill do that | 10:33 |
| LuMint | it draws windows basically. and handles it. | 10:33 |
| LuMint | resizes etc. | 10:33 |
| LuMint | it's also capable of autostarting stuff you want | 10:34 |
| leszek | LuMint: startx is a script that executes the .xinitrc script which starts the DE/WM | 10:34 |
| LuMint | so you can make it into a DE | 10:34 |
| LuMint | leszek: thanks | 10:34 |
| kyle69649 | so before starting from scratch, i tooled around and got the syntax right and ran the upgrade. im seeing if that solves my problems. simutaneosly, im downloading(on this pc) the lubuntu 16 ver. | 10:35 |
| kyle69649 | explain open box? do you mean that it is easy to grab and install and use? | 10:37 |
| leszek | its the window manager that lxde uses by default. So it is already installed | 10:38 |
| leszek | kyle69649: you can take a look here at what window managers are https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_manager | 10:39 |
| kyle69649 | it is in the process. i have something like an hour to go. its been going for the passed10 min or so | 10:40 |
| LuMint | kyle69649: i'd recommend using lxde or preconfigured openbox like that in bunsenlabs | 10:40 |
| kyle69649 | now it says 30 min | 10:40 |
| kyle69649 | so idk | 10:40 |
| LuMint | kyle69649: you'd need to make many things manually to create your own DE based on openbox | 10:40 |
| kyle69649 | im reading on internet about openbox | 10:40 |
| LuMint | kyle69649: e.g. for desktop wallpaper management you'd have to manually set up either feh or nitrogen | 10:41 |
| LuMint | kyle69649: lxde does it for you. | 10:41 |
| kyle69649 | ah | 10:41 |
| LuMint | but once you've set up your openbox it's just as good as lxde, and prolly even better for your own needs, because you've made it yourself after all | 10:41 |
| kyle69649 | granted. but for a guy like me who has limited working knowlege in programing or even understanding what im looking at, is a open box for me? | 10:43 |
| LuMint | kyle69649: i'd recommend using lxde or preconfigured openbox like that in bunsenlabs | 10:44 |
| LuMint | decide for yourself. | 10:44 |
| kyle69649 | ok | 10:44 |
| LuMint | lxde is built off of openbox | 10:44 |
| LuMint | kyle69649: just find a description what lxde is | 10:44 |
| dudz | hi, I'm currently running ubuntu, but i am thinking to switch to lubuntu. I own an Intel NUC5i7RYH which i have an m.2 as my primary storage, i had a 2.5inch ssd installed which i removed yesterday. | 10:45 |
| LuMint | kyle69649: you can get almost the same experience without lxde but isntalling and configuring things like desktop wallpaper manager yourself. | 10:45 |
| dudz | prior to the 2.5inch ssd i had a mechanical 2.5inch, i took themechanical out becaus eof heat, and now i have taken the ssd out for the same reason | 10:45 |
| dudz | i have also disabled the intel turbo feature from the bios | 10:46 |
| kyle69649 | ok.luMint: its saying 15min to go | 10:47 |
| kyle69649 | dudz: so the drives just run hot? hove you played with the fan settings? how long before it shuts down? | 10:53 |
| kyle69649 | no other componets run hot? ie cpu or gpu? | 10:53 |
| dudz | i think that just the fact that having something in that space instead of air is contributing to holding the heat in the device | 10:54 |
| dudz | it doesn't shutdown but it was running its fan speed up and creating alot of noise | 10:54 |
| dudz | this act was also happening regually when ever a update comes out | 10:54 |
| dudz | if i install the update or not, the fans would speed up and stay up, and the temperature was sitting near boiling point | 10:55 |
| kyle69649 | is this drive large than the stock? did you install extra drive that would take up space thus inhibiting airflow? | 10:55 |
| dudz | also, when using the microHDMI port, i would experience the graphical glitches that you would see when a video card is overheating, but i don't see this when using the Micro Display port | 10:55 |
| dudz | the slim of the ssd sized hdd's | 10:56 |
| dudz | 9.5mm ? | 10:56 |
| dudz | the nuc case has a slot for a 2.5inch hdd anyway, it fits in that | 10:57 |
| kyle69649 | that one is above me..OH just a dumb question. how old is the hardware? dusty? | 10:57 |
| kyle69649 | if your gpu has heatsink and fan, fan may be cloggedor heatsink | 10:58 |
| dudz | i bought it this time last yr, so i've had it 1yr now, most of the time i've owned it, it's been spent switched on, | 10:58 |
| dudz | yeah i need to probably get an air compressor in there, i have not opened the side of the case where the heatsink is since i bought it | 10:59 |
| dudz | http://www.intel.com.au/content/www/au/en/nuc/nuc-kit-nuc5i7ryh.html | 11:00 |
| LuMint | dudz: #hardware | 11:00 |
| dudz | true | 11:00 |
| kyle69649 | well it shouldnt have problem but if you around dirt, dust or what ever it has potential to get in there. as far as the hd, i dont know. did you say that you have tried different ones and get the same heat? | 11:00 |
| LuMint | i mean, ask em. | 11:00 |
| dudz | yeah indeed, my text is turning into #hardware | 11:01 |
| dudz | i have accepted that the NUC5i7RYH just doesn't perform well with a 2.5inch hdd installed, even it has a slot to put one, having one will cause the heat to raise. | 11:02 |
| kyle69649 | holy cow, thats cool for what it is, its like intel tried to create a type of raspberry pi or ardueno micro pc | 11:04 |
| dudz | i really like it, i wanted a small powerful pc and this does that, | 11:06 |
| kyle69649 | thats not a bad thing, i just find it interesting | 11:06 |
| kyle69649 | ya that may just be intels fault in thinking that the heat management would work out but if you use sd card or usb memory, that could work and i do know that you can find huge thumb drives128gb about | 11:12 |
| dudz | yeah i'm using 2.5inch usb drives atm for extra storage space, it's just extra desk space, which was the main reason i got a nuc, as i have limited space | 11:25 |
| n-iCe | Lubuntu 16.10 Final Beta has been released! http://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-yakkety-yak-16-10-beta-2-released/ | 17:11 |
| n-iCe | hi | 17:14 |
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