[03:53] <londongrl> http://www.renegadetribune.com/jewish-project-white-genocide/
[03:58] <evnmatt> More White genocide, evil Jew spam?
[03:59] <evnmatt> Cool it with the antisemitism, guys.
[04:01] <tsimonq2> +1 evnmatt
[04:02] <evnmatt> tsimonq2, http://www.renegadetribune.com/jewish-project-white-genocide/ <-- this is the link that was posted?
[04:03] <tsimonq2> correct evnmatt
[04:03] <evnmatt> Thank you. I'm looking into it.
[04:03] <evnmatt> It appears to be from an "alternative right" website.
[04:04] <evnmatt> tsimonq2, http://www.renegadetribune.com/realizing-hitler-right/
[04:04] <evnmatt> tsimonq2, Here they have an article glorifying Hitler.
[04:06] <tsimonq2> evnmatt: this isn't the place to discuss this (if you wish to), could you head over to #lubuntu-offtopic?
[04:07] <evnmatt> I want the poster of that content BANISHED from here.
[06:53] <morriswaker> Anyone seen that new Denial film by Becker Street?
[08:59] <kyle> hello
[08:59] <kyle> im trying to use the os
[09:00] <Guest2476> i believe i have installed correct but i have hit a stop
[09:01] <Guest2476> i only see a cmd screen and it keeps asking me to login
[09:02] <Guest2476> when i do, it stays in cmd mode and i see nothing else
[09:02] <Guest2476> hello?
[09:03] <Guest2476> naeil
[09:03] <Guest2476> hello?
[09:15] <kyle69649> join
[09:16] <kyle69649> hello i need help
[09:17] <kyle69649> can anyone help
[09:17] <kyle69649> i can not get passed log in
[09:17] <leszek> kyle69649: just ask a concrete question and you'll see
[09:17] <kyle69649> i am stuck in cmd
[09:18] <kyle69649> screen askes for login then password and it looks like ms cmd screen
[09:18] <leszek> kyle69649: You are able to login via the tty terminal and see a command line instead of the GUI ?
[09:18] <kyle69649> how
[09:18] <kyle69649> yes
[09:19] <kyle69649> yes
[09:19] <leszek> kyle69649: the live system worked fine for you ?
[09:19] <kyle69649> that was what came up when i started the computer
[09:19] <kyle69649> no i did a usb install
[09:19] <leszek> you did a usb install from the live system or the alternate text installer ?
[09:20] <Naeil> what version of Lubuntu you are running kyle69649
[09:20] <kyle69649> i did that and got through that then said had to resart
[09:20] <kyle69649> so i did. now im here
[09:20] <leszek> kyle69649: so in general the graphics card is recognized. Did you try restarting already (entering the command sudo reboot)
[09:20] <kyle69649> im running the 14.00 something
[09:20] <leszek> 14.04 seems pretty old
[09:20] <leszek> the current version is 16.04
[09:20] <kyle69649> ill try restart again
[09:21] <Naeil> it still supported the 14.04 no problem with that. Try to restart and let us know if you still facing the same problem.
[09:21] <kyle69649> ok sys is rebooting
[09:21] <leszek> Naeil: if it is 14.04 and not 14.10
[09:22] <kyle69649> ill let you know in a second
[09:22] <kyle69649> yes, is 14.04.5
[09:22] <leszek> ok that is an LTS version so it is still supported until 2019 at max
[09:23] <kyle69649> and still is prompting via a cmd screen
[09:24] <leszek> kyle69649: try login again and executing: sudo service restart lightdm
[09:24] <Naeil> ^
[09:24] <leszek> hopefully that brings you to the graphical login manager
[09:24] <kyle69649> ok im logged in and trying
[09:25] <kyle69649> wait one
[09:27] <kyle69649> is that exactly what to input into the line? i just tried that and gotunrecognized service
[09:28] <Naeil> dpkg -l | grep lightdm
[09:28] <Naeil> paste your output to paste.ubuntu.com
[09:31] <kyle69649> im using side by side. im talking here via a windows 10, other pc is next to me. how can i paste.. other than copy and input
[09:31] <Naeil> ah okay just tell me what you see then
[09:32] <LuMint> Naeil: would be easier with | gist-paste
[09:34] <kyle69649> when i typed inthe last cmd (grep lightdm) it responded with like a free type  thing and there was no more IO it was just type
[09:34] <kyle69649> i restarted again and am back at login
[09:35] <kyle69649> i will type in my login
[09:35] <LuMint> free type thing? what's that?
[09:35] <Naeil> I am sorry I don't follow!
[09:35] <LuMint> kyle69649: you should for the command to finish. It may take up to 2 minutes if your hardware is old
[09:35] <kyle69649> i could type and there was just it. no output other than that
[09:35] <LuMint> ^ld^ld wait
[09:36] <LuMint> kyle69649: dpkg -l | grep lightdm | gist-paste
[09:36] <LuMint> kyle69649: wait till it gives you a link.
[09:36] <Naeil> LuMint, if I am not mistaken he can't connect :)
[09:37] <kyle69649> im running a net book. dell latitude 2110
[09:37] <LuMint> kyle69649: do you have internet connection?
[09:37] <kyle69649> its a light work laptop i picked up at auction
[09:38] <LuMint> i'm not familiar with its specs.
[09:38] <kyle69649> yes via wifi. should i use hardline for the moment?
[09:38] <LuMint> says nothing to me really. apart from you the fact you probably need to wait up to 2 minutes
[09:38] <LuMint> ^you
[09:38] <LuMint> kyle69649: did you say dpkg -l | grep lightdm | gist-paste and wait for several minutes?
[09:39] <kyle69649> well by our standard very low powered its dell and stock
[09:39] <kyle69649> i will try. wait one
[09:41] <LuMint> actually, it shouldn't be like this... does dpkg -l work?
[09:42] <kyle69649> ya i got error on last, ill try that , wait one
[09:43] <kyle69649> i tried dpkg SPACE -1
[09:43] <kyle69649> dpkg-1
[09:43] <kyle69649> nothing on both
[09:44] <kyle69649> the first one was unknown option -1
[09:44] <LuMint> are you sure you are logged in?
[09:45] <LuMint> what do you mean -1
[09:45] <LuMint> it's -l
[09:45] <LuMint> not -1
[09:45] <LuMint> as in Letter
[09:45] <LuMint> Lima
[09:45] <kyle69649> ...oh
[09:45] <kyle69649> l
[09:45] <kyle69649> ok
[09:45] <kyle69649> trying..
[09:45] <LuMint> it stands for list...
[09:46] <LuMint> you are basically telling the package manager to list all packages...
[09:46] <kyle69649> holy FBALLS
[09:46] <kyle69649> got long list
[09:46] <LuMint> kyle69649: just like in Matrix, huh?
[09:46] <kyle69649> ya
[09:46] <LuMint> now you're a h4x0r
[09:46] <LuMint> dpkg -l | grep lightdm | gist-paste
[09:47] <kyle69649> trying, wait one..
[09:48] <kyle69649> program gist-paste is not intalled.......blah blah
[09:48] <LuMint> never mind gist paste, dpkg -l | grep lightdm
[09:49] <kyle69649> ok
[09:51] <kyle69649> ok sofar i have some red lettering and other
[09:51] <kyle69649> its a list of...
[09:52] <kyle69649> looks like files
[09:54] <kyle69649> liblightdm-gobject-1-0                                                        1.10.6-Oubuntu1                                           i386                   LightDM Gobject client library
[09:55] <kyle69649> that was suposed to be a full line across
[09:55] <kyle69649> but the list continues with a few other things and then is now waiting for another cmd
[09:57] <kyle69649> are you still here?
[10:01] <kyle69649> hello?
[10:03] <leszek> kyle69649: its important that lightdm is listed as installed
[10:03] <leszek> or lightdm-gtk
[10:06] <kyle69649> lightdm comes up with only root can run light display manager. to run as regular user for testing run with the -- test-mode flag.
[10:06] <kyle69649> lightdm-gtk could not be found (cmd)
[10:07] <LuMint> kyle69649: try starx
[10:07] <LuMint> kyle69649: that should start the X server
[10:08] <LuMint> kyle69649: it's basically what lightdm should do, but you can do it manually just as well.
[10:09] <kyle69649> tried starx, got nothing. tried startx and got...
[10:10] <kyle69649> xauthority does not exist
[10:10] <kyle69649> a listing of the xserver data
[10:10] <LuMint> Naeil: I've no idea here
[10:11] <LuMint> kyle69649: try xorg-reconfigure
[10:11] <leszek> kyle69649: and the sudo service lightdm restart does not bring up the graphical login manager ?
[10:11] <LuMint> google the command and try it.
[10:11] <kyle69649>  ya i think i may just try downloading the new os.
[10:11] <leszek> sudo service lightdm restart
[10:11] <kyle69649> ill try xorg
[10:11] <kyle69649> wait one
[10:11] <leszek> that won't work or bring anything as xorg won't start a window manager/desktop
[10:12] <kyle69649> not what i meant. i abreviated. i appoligise
[10:13] <kyle69649> but i tried the cmd and didnt work.
[10:13] <kyle69649> im trying the second
[10:14] <LuMint> leszek: why wouldn't it?
[10:16] <kyle69649> ok so i got    unknown instance when i typed in the sudo service lightdm restart
[10:17] <kyle69649> and now i got nothin.. i have blinking cursor that wont type.. thanks gents, im going to try back at square one and install 16 ver.
[10:18] <kyle69649> it will take a while but ill look for ya if i get somewhere
[10:18] <LuMint> kyle69649: yeah, it should be like that. I'm pretty positive it's not a driver issue.
[10:18] <LuMint> *shouldnt
[10:18] <Naeil> back
[10:19] <Naeil> kyle69649, I think you format and install Lubuntu another time will be a good chance to work
[10:19] <Naeil> Follow a good tutorial to install it
[10:19] <leszek> LuMint: Xorg itself launches only the Xserver but does not execute anything so you will get X with the X cursor thats all
[10:20] <leszek> kyle69649: before wiping try looking into /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if there is any line starting with E: which means error
[10:20] <leszek> maybe something useful there that explains why it won't start
[10:20] <LuMint> leszek: so basically if Xserver's configs are screwed, no WM/DE will be hooked?
[10:21] <LuMint> Naeil: leszek i think xorg-reconfigure might work
[10:21] <leszek> LuMint: even if they aren't screwed thats what Xorg does only. Its not there for loading WMs/DEs
[10:22] <leszek> Its like pulseaudio. It of itself cannot play music. It is just a music server. And so is Xorg
[10:25] <LuMint> what launches DEs and WMs, then?
[10:25] <LuMint> why is it when i startx, DE launches as well?
[10:25] <LuMint> if it's not the responsibility of xorg
[10:25] <kyle69649> what is de
[10:26] <kyle69649> what is wm
[10:28] <kyle69649> forgive my ignorance, i dont know computing syntax or jargon like you do. i barely learned ruby
[10:30] <LuMint> desktop environment
[10:30] <LuMint> windows manager
[10:30] <kyle69649> ok
[10:30] <kyle69649> thank you
[10:30] <LuMint> something win explorer is responsive for
[10:30] <LuMint> desktop environment is a set of programs
[10:31] <LuMint> kyle69649: lxde is a desktop environment
[10:31] <LuMint> kyle69649: it includes various software like text editor, browser etc.
[10:31] <kyle69649> is the use of 21st century socialisms inapropriate in this environment ie(lol)
[10:31] <LuMint> kyle69649: it also includes the menu at the bottom of your page
[10:31] <kyle69649> ah
[10:32] <LuMint> this component is called lxpanel
[10:32] <LuMint> you can disable it if you do't like it and still have the rest of your DE
[10:32] <kyle69649> i saw ldxe and was able to note that.
[10:32] <LuMint> openbox only provides minimal experience which is pretty enough if you ask me.
[10:32] <kyle69649> lxde
[10:33] <LuMint> for a purely openbox system you can try searching in youtube for crunchbang reviews
[10:33] <LuMint> or bunsenlabs
[10:33] <LuMint> openbox is a WM
[10:33] <kyle69649> ill do that
[10:33] <LuMint> it draws windows basically. and handles it.
[10:33] <LuMint> resizes etc.
[10:34] <LuMint> it's also capable of autostarting stuff you want
[10:34] <leszek> LuMint: startx is a script that executes the .xinitrc script which starts the DE/WM
[10:34] <LuMint> so you can make it into a DE
[10:34] <LuMint> leszek: thanks
[10:35] <kyle69649> so before starting from scratch, i tooled around and got the syntax right and ran the upgrade. im seeing if that solves my problems. simutaneosly, im downloading(on this pc) the lubuntu 16 ver.
[10:37] <kyle69649> explain open box?  do you mean that it is easy to grab and install and use?
[10:38] <leszek> its the window manager that lxde uses by default. So it is already installed
[10:39] <leszek> kyle69649: you can take a look here at what window managers are https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_manager
[10:40] <kyle69649> it is in the process. i have something like an hour to go. its been going for the passed10 min or so
[10:40] <LuMint> kyle69649: i'd recommend using lxde or preconfigured openbox like that in bunsenlabs
[10:40] <kyle69649> now it says 30 min
[10:40] <kyle69649> so idk
[10:40] <LuMint> kyle69649: you'd need to make many things manually to create your own DE based on openbox
[10:40] <kyle69649> im reading on internet about openbox
[10:41] <LuMint> kyle69649: e.g. for desktop wallpaper management you'd have to manually set up either feh or nitrogen
[10:41] <LuMint> kyle69649: lxde does it for you.
[10:41] <kyle69649> ah
[10:41] <LuMint> but once you've set up your openbox it's just as good as lxde, and prolly even better for your own needs, because you've made it yourself after all
[10:43] <kyle69649> granted. but for a guy like me who has limited working knowlege in programing or even understanding what im looking at, is a open box for me?
[10:44] <LuMint> kyle69649: i'd recommend using lxde or preconfigured openbox like that in bunsenlabs
[10:44] <LuMint> decide for yourself.
[10:44] <kyle69649> ok
[10:44] <LuMint> lxde is built off of openbox
[10:44] <LuMint> kyle69649: just find a description what lxde is
[10:45] <dudz> hi, I'm currently running ubuntu, but i am thinking to switch to lubuntu. I own an Intel NUC5i7RYH which i have an m.2 as my primary storage, i had a 2.5inch ssd installed which i removed yesterday.
[10:45] <LuMint> kyle69649: you can get almost the same experience without lxde but isntalling and configuring things like desktop wallpaper manager yourself.
[10:45] <dudz> prior to the 2.5inch ssd i had a mechanical 2.5inch, i took themechanical out becaus eof heat, and now i have taken the ssd out for the same reason
[10:46] <dudz> i have also disabled the intel turbo feature from the bios
[10:47] <kyle69649> ok.luMint: its saying 15min to go
[10:53] <kyle69649> dudz: so the drives just run hot? hove you played with the fan settings? how long before it shuts down?
[10:53] <kyle69649> no other componets run hot? ie cpu or gpu?
[10:54] <dudz> i think that just the fact that having something in that space instead of air is contributing to holding the heat in the device
[10:54] <dudz> it doesn't shutdown but it was running its fan speed up and creating alot of noise
[10:54] <dudz> this act was also happening regually when ever a update comes out
[10:55] <dudz> if i install the update or not, the fans would speed up and stay up, and the temperature was sitting near boiling point
[10:55] <kyle69649> is this drive large than the stock? did you install extra drive that would take up space thus inhibiting airflow?
[10:55] <dudz> also, when using the microHDMI port, i would experience the graphical glitches that you would see when a video card is overheating, but i don't see this when using the Micro Display port
[10:56] <dudz> the slim of the ssd sized hdd's
[10:56] <dudz> 9.5mm ?
[10:57] <dudz> the nuc case has a slot for a 2.5inch hdd anyway, it fits in that
[10:57] <kyle69649> that one is above me..OH just a dumb question. how old is the hardware? dusty?
[10:58] <kyle69649> if your gpu has heatsink and fan, fan may be cloggedor heatsink
[10:58] <dudz> i bought it this time last yr, so i've had it 1yr now, most of the time i've owned it, it's been spent switched on,
[10:59] <dudz> yeah i need to probably get an air compressor in there, i have not opened the side of the case where the heatsink is since i bought it
[11:00] <dudz> http://www.intel.com.au/content/www/au/en/nuc/nuc-kit-nuc5i7ryh.html
[11:00] <LuMint> dudz: #hardware
[11:00] <dudz> true
[11:00] <kyle69649> well it shouldnt have problem but if you around dirt, dust or what ever it has potential to get in there. as far as the hd, i dont know. did you say that you have tried different ones and get the same heat?
[11:00] <LuMint> i mean, ask em.
[11:01] <dudz> yeah indeed, my text is turning into #hardware
[11:02] <dudz> i have accepted that the NUC5i7RYH just doesn't perform well with a 2.5inch hdd installed, even it has a slot to put one, having one will cause the heat to raise.
[11:04] <kyle69649> holy cow, thats cool for what it is, its like intel tried to create a type of raspberry pi or ardueno micro pc
[11:06] <dudz> i really like it, i wanted a small powerful pc and this does that,
[11:06] <kyle69649> thats not a bad thing, i just find it interesting
[11:12] <kyle69649> ya that may just be intels fault in thinking that the heat management would work out but if you use sd card or usb memory, that could work and i do know that you can find huge thumb drives128gb about
[11:25] <dudz> yeah i'm using 2.5inch usb drives atm for extra storage space, it's just extra desk space, which was the main reason i got a nuc, as i have limited space
[17:11] <n-iCe> Lubuntu 16.10 Final Beta has been released! http://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-yakkety-yak-16-10-beta-2-released/
[17:14] <n-iCe> hi