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hikikoHi05:04
tjaaltonanyone know if there's a place other than under /usr where I could drop a custom keymap? I need to remap one key on an US kbd to be able to use finnish layout07:12
tjaaltonso that unity would be able to show it on the gui07:12
tjaaltonbecause xmodmap doesn't work07:13
tjaaltonthe layout is reset on resume etc07:13
tjaaltonand .Xmodmap is not applied on login either07:13
tjaaltonhah, looks like I can type <>| on US kbd afterall, a bit awkward with altgr+shift, but still.. no need for hacky layouts07:53
Sweet5harkmoin07:58
Sweet5harkLaney: have a sec?07:59
willcookeMorning all.08:00
willcookeWeather update:  It's raining sideways.08:00
dufluUmm. I assume willcooke is not in South Australia where that is also true08:01
willcookeha08:01
willcookeafternoon duflu08:01
dufluHey willcooke08:01
Laneyyo08:02
TheMusoHey folks.08:02
willcookehi Laney TheMuso08:02
Laneywhat's up08:02
flexiondotorgMorning08:03
flexiondotorgHmmm, rainy walk this morning.08:03
flexiondotorgLaney, thank for sharing your dynamic profile tip yesterday.08:03
flexiondotorgI've recreated the same results using this - http://direnv.net/08:03
Laneywhy is it such a pain in the rear end to pay someone using different payment references?08:04
* Laney stabs Santander08:04
Laneyflexiondotorg: Nice08:04
LaneySweet5hark: Yes, many, and they are all for you08:04
dufluEvening? TheMuso08:04
LaneyWhat08:05
tjaaltonowncloud client doesn't seem to start on login, is 'startup applications' still supported in yak?08:05
Laney"Amend Payee" rejects the name that creating a new payee previously allowed08:05
Laneytjaalton: It works08:11
LaneyI think logs go into the journal now08:11
tjaaltonLaney: ok, it's just the applet icon not showing, seems to be running08:13
TheMusoLater folks.08:16
willcookenight TheMuso08:19
flexiondotorgLaney, I've seen that #1624022 has new comments.09:38
flexiondotorgwillcooke, Laney Am I right is saying the request is to now symlink 'browse' to xdg-open?09:38
willcookeI think that's where we are at now09:39
flexiondotorgOK09:39
willcookexdg-open is better than sensible-browser (from the comments)09:39
LaneyAs you think is best09:39
willcookeand Mark wanted "browse" to be the command09:39
willcookeso combine both of those and we arrive at browse -> xdg-open09:39
flexiondotorgRight. Understood.09:39
willcookeLaney, you still think this is something worth upstreaming to Debian?09:40
LaneyI would ask09:40
willcookeyeah, no harm in asking09:40
willcookeLet's start with a debdiff for Yakkety then, and go from there?09:41
LaneyMhm09:42
willcookeLaney, ?09:44
Laneythat's a noise of assent09:45
willcooke:)09:45
LaneyCheck it's actually installed on server though09:46
LaneyIf it matters that this works on servers09:47
* willcooke ponders09:47
willcookeI don't suppose a server has things like X.org, Unity 7, Firefox, etc etc installed by default09:48
LaneyMight have lynx or w3m09:49
jbichaxdg-utils doesn't show for server in seeded-in-ubuntu but server is pretty minimal by default09:49
jbichagood morning09:49
Laneyhi09:49
willcookeflexiondotorg, would suggest you comment on the bug and see if this is required on server, if so then that rather limits our options09:53
LaneyI suspect it's probably not that useful there10:02
LaneyBut it might be smart to cover yourself :)10:02
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bregma hey willcooke a recent change to unity8-desktop-session for the bug fat MIR is blocked from landing until ubuntu-terminal-app gets uploaded to the stable overlay for Xenial...  did you poke anyone about doing that?10:25
willcookebregma, morning!  Yeah, spoke to a few peeps in the ci-eng channel this morning.  I've asked TheMuso to take a look at a bug first:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-terminal-app/+bug/162878110:26
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1628781 in Ubuntu Terminal App "Incorrect package rename handling causes file overwrite errors on upgrade" [Undecided,New]10:26
willcookeOnce that's sorted I think we should be able to land it10:26
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andyrockgood afternoon all12:24
flexiondotorgandyrock, o/12:37
* flexiondotorg gets lunch12:44
willcookehey andyrock13:05
davmor2willcooke, Laney: on yakkety if you open nautilus is it opening a separate icon in the launcher?13:27
willcookethat again13:28
willcookedavmor2, is that on an upgrade?13:28
willcooke*upgraded machine13:28
davmor2willcooke: I haven't upgraded today I was hoping to see the update-manager popup but it hasn't happened yet13:29
willcookedavmor2, out of interest, can you remove the icon and re add it13:29
willcookeand see if it still does it13:29
davmor2willcooke: now it doesn't13:30
willcookedavmor2, I /think/ it's probably related to an upgrade at some point, but if that's a fresh install, then.... ?13:31
davmor2willcooke: no it is my main box so it has been upgraded pretty much daily so might just be version changes in yakkety itself but it's only happened the last couple of days after proposed got unblocked by beta 213:33
willcookehmm, oki.. Well fingers crossed that's what it is13:35
flexiondotorgLaney I have a question about versioning.13:48
flexiondotorgI'll have a new xdg-utils package for Y13:49
flexiondotorgAnd one for X13:49
flexiondotorgThey are currently the same package in both releases.13:49
Laneyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdatePreparation#Update_the_packaging13:49
flexiondotorgHow should I version them for uploading to Y and SRUing to X?13:49
* flexiondotorg goes to read.13:50
LaneyHandy table there13:50
flexiondotorgThanks13:50
Laneydavmor2: MMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm interesting13:53
Laney(maybe)13:53
davmor2hmmm launcher if I install byobu and add it to the launcher and do an upgrade byobu is removed from the launcher, I assume this is because the old version is removed and the newer version installed right?13:59
flexiondotorgLaney, can you cast an eye over these debdiffs please.14:37
flexiondotorgFor Xenial SRU - paste.ubuntu.com/23251295/14:37
flexiondotorgFor Yakkety - http://paste.ubuntu.com/23251300/14:37
LaneyAre you forwarding it upstream?14:38
LaneyIf not, I'd just make a pkg.links file for debhelper to do what it will with14:38
flexiondotorgOK, I'll do that.14:43
Laneyflexiondotorg: As a point of autotools nerdery (for interest), look up AC_PROG_LN_S14:43
Laneyhttps://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf/manual/autoconf.html14:44
flexiondotorgThanks, added to my reading list.14:45
Laneydavmor2: that nautilus thing, you found a bug, well done14:48
Laneycookie for you14:48
davmor2Laney: I think byobu launcher being removed is another one too ;)14:48
Laneymaybe14:48
Laneygive me a break14:48
Laneycheck if it renames its desktop file14:48
Laneybetter, just file it14:49
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* flexiondotorg is just making a cuppa14:56
* ogra_ notes the brits are a nation of potters ... where germans make coffee or tea, you guys only make cups 15:08
* flexiondotorg looks for a liquid to put in my cup15:19
davmor2Laney: so everything in the desktop file looks to be identical on yakkety and xenial so I'll file a bug against bybou intially15:24
Laneyok15:26
davmor2Laney: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/byobu/+bug/162897515:33
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1628975 in byobu (Ubuntu) "Adding byobu to the launcher and upgrading removes it from the launcher" [Undecided,New]15:33
om26erHello! Is there a pythonic way to check if X server is running ?15:35
flexiondotorgLaney, here are the updated debdiffs for xdg-utils16:41
flexiondotorgXenial - http://paste.ubuntu.com/23251853/16:41
flexiondotorgYakkety - http://paste.ubuntu.com/23251856/16:41
flexiondotorgIf built and tested them. So if these are suitable I'll attach them to the bug and we can discuss how to process to uploading etc.16:41
flexiondotorgI've not just been working on this BTW ;-)16:42
flexiondotorgI've got several bugs at various stages of testing16:42
LaneyLooks good, although you don't need the version number for the devel release; that one can be ubuntu216:45
flexiondotorgSo Y can be ubuntu2?16:45
Laneyyes16:47
flexiondotorgLike so - http://paste.ubuntu.com/23251883/16:48
Laneyaye16:48
flexiondotorgOK, I'll attach those to the bug.16:48
flexiondotorgShould I subscribe this bug for sponsoring to get it uploaded?16:49
LaneyThat'd be the usual way16:49
flexiondotorgCool.16:49
Laneynighty night17:06
willcookenight all17:30
flexiondotorgNight17:32
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dobeydesrt: around? any idea of a reason why g_app_info_get_all() would not be returning applications that are in XDG_DATA_{DIRS,HOME}/applications?21:14
desrtdobey: what *is* it returning?21:34
desrtthose dirs are the only thing it uses21:35
dobeydesrt: apparently nothing. in unity-scope-click we have an "applications" directory with a few .desktop files in it, for some integration tests, which we copy to a tmpdir for the tests and point XDG_DATA_HOME at. but they don't seem to be showing up in ubuntu-app-launch-appids, and there's no errors and no messages with G_MESSAGES_DEBUG=all21:36
dobeyand nothing apparent in the u-a-l source code that would cause it. the .desktop files are straight copies from actual installed apps on the phone too, and they definitely show up in the click scope under the unity8 session :-/21:37
dobeyyeah, it's not making any sense to me; so here i am pinging you :)21:39
dobeyhttps://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-control-tower/unity-scope-click/trunk/files/head:/tests/scope-harness/applications/ <- these are the .desktop files21:41
desrtDo you set the envvar from inside the test program?21:42
dobeyno, outside21:42
desrtHmm21:42
desrt(good)21:42
desrtOh21:42
desrtI know21:42
desrtThe files in the Exec= line are missing, I bet21:43
dobeyg_app_info_get_all() strips those out?21:43
desrtChange Exec=/bin/true or something and it will work21:43
desrtYa... a subject of much controversy, I assure you21:44
dobeyugh, yeah. installed webbrowser-app and now it appears. that is indeed not nice21:44
desrtI'm on my way to dinner atm, so hopefully that works... otherwise, ping later?21:44
desrtAh good21:45
desrtGood night!21:45
dobeythanks. you too21:45
maxbI was just discussing a Unity launcher problem new filed as bug 1629138 over in #ubuntu+1, and it was suggested to mention it here too.23:37
ubot5bug 1629138 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity launcher doesn't recognize gnome-terminal processes as connected with launcher" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162913823:37
maxbLet me know if I can help provide more info23:38

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