[00:00] <check_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?orderby=datecreated&start=0  sort-order -->> Server error, please contact an administrator. OOPS ID:OOPS-9e425f1fd4592e9db9be1a3308923586
[00:00] <kdawg> hi
[00:00] <MMan_> Maybe it is time for linux community, special ubuntu one to build its own search service!
[00:00] <kdawg> Sorry something happened when i was using life cd and xchat
[00:00] <kdawg> now i booted to windows lol
[00:01] <kdawg> probaly was i went to scroll down the chat page
[00:01] <kdawg> and there was a yellow thing over xchat made the whole screen area it covered yellow, then nothing was clickable
[00:01] <OerHeks> MMan_, maybe this works for you, output to vdpau ot openGL GLX http://www.attabot.org/linux/remove-green-lines-vlc-media-player-linux/
[00:01] <OerHeks> c/ot/or
[00:02] <Bashing-om> MMan_: Google does very well by us : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PopularPages . Try the search here .
[00:02] <MMan_> Thank you all iam on m way
[00:03] <kdawg> anyone have and ideas
[00:03] <MMan_> OerHeks i believe your solution could be the one!
[00:03] <matejko> post some links people it is opening! and I missed it
[00:05] <de-facto> in my experience xv is pretty fast for vlc output
[00:05] <check_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?orderby=datecreated&start=0   sort-order -->> Server error, please contact an administrator. OOPS ID:OOPS-4dc20cec3262c6a32be4b4fc9b99242f
[00:07] <k1l_> check_: that url works here
[00:08] <check_> did y change acend decend
[00:08] <k1l_> no
[00:08] <k1l_> check_: can click on the asc/desc and it sorts new.
[00:09] <Rarrikins> check_: It works here as well, but you can report it here: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[00:10] <check_> asc/desc on date or age gives erroe?
[00:10] <k1l_> check_: not for me
[00:10] <check_> tnks
[00:10] <OerHeks> if you hit that switch too often per minute, you might get that oops
[00:11] <check_> hit change once
[00:11] <check_> happens every time in one direction
[00:12] <k1l_> check_: tried in a private browser and i  do get an error when not logged in.
[00:12] <check_> yes i'm not logged in
[00:12] <k1l_> check_: i guess that is a topic for #launchpad then
[00:13] <check_> tkns do they have an irc channel?
[00:13] <k1l_> that is the irc channel :)
[00:14] <check_> thank you
[00:14] <maddawg2> lol
[00:14] <maddawg2> IRC much
[00:14] <maddawg2> lol
[00:15] <matejko> how to go to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[00:15] <k1l_> well, people do get confused with hashtags from social media :)
[00:15] <k1l_> !ot | matejko
[00:16] <RLShiftyDoggit> you do the slash join command then #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:16] <matejko> RLShiftyDoggit: not working
[00:16] <k1l_> matejko: you need to register with freenode first, like the bot told you
[00:17] <RLShiftyDoggit> yeah reg first then log in then join
[00:17] <MMan> i miss the old nice K9 dog :(
[00:19] <wadadli> k1l_: sorry didn't know canonical maintained mpv and audacity
[00:19] <hpsmm> yeaaaah
[00:19] <wadadli> k1l_: just ask any question you wan't not having to do with the /topic
[00:20] <wadadli> k1l_: got it
[00:21] <hpsmm> thank you guys.. one last question, how to type apostroph?
[00:22] <hpsmm> in ubuntu? in windows it was alt+36 but that dont work now
[00:23] <hpsmm> I'm noob, got it
[00:25] <debkad> think in linux is a little different, ctrl+shift+u then the number
[00:25] <k1l_> i have that on my keyboard layout and can just press that key :)
[00:26] <debkad> cool
[00:26] <MMan> tc all gtg see you later! and never forget, thing out of the box.
[00:26] <debkad> k1l_: shortcut or just the quote is on the keyboard?
[00:27] <hpsmm> debkad: I don't have so many arms lol ... right alt+ 2 buttons to the left from L button (bettween enter and "L") working for me
[00:27] <debkad> :D
[00:27] <hpsmm> *2 buttons to the right
[00:28] <debkad> echo -e "\u" is cool too
[00:28] <debkad> :p
[00:29] <debkad> damn i forget my question
[00:38] <votlon> ello all
[00:38] <votlon> was wondering what the best way to get a mx5 pro for ubuntu phone was, if anyone new in the chat :)
[00:38] <votlon> usa at&t network
[00:44] <gde33> is there a way to have vlc always be able to write to its config file?
[00:44] <gde33> I have to set it to always on top every time I use it
[00:45] <lotuspsychje> !touch | votlon
[00:45] <lotuspsychje> gde33: perhaps the #videolan guys might know also?
[00:46] <debkad> gde33: you mean you changed the config and when you start it next time it get to the default config?
[00:46] <votlon> Ye i got that, but finding the hardware seems impossible
[00:46] <gde33> debkad: yes
[00:46] <votlon> jd.com isn't selling them and won't response to questions :p
[00:46] <debkad> gde33: my guess is permission issue but as lotuspsychje said, the folks in ##videolan may know what's wrong
[00:47] <sandeepkr_> Is there a linux based OS that comes preinstalled with python, numpy and matplotlib? need it in form of a live cd.
[00:48] <sandeepkr_> an ubuntu based will be nice
[00:48] <debkad> why not just install them
[00:49] <sandeepkr_> need it in form of a live cd.
[00:49] <votlon> persistant partition the softwares is the easy way or google how to make ur own live cd :)
[00:50] <debkad> i was to say that
[00:50] <debkad> customized os
[00:53] <kdawg> How to mount a drive in linux without formating it
[00:54] <bazhang> what sort of drive kdawg
[00:54] <debkad> kdawg: that what mount do
[00:55] <kdawg> one sec i'll try and write it in one message
[00:56] <kdawg> I am looking to back up data from a drive from and old nas i build using windows home server 2011 using drive bender. To make use of drive pool. Its readible from latest ubuntu live cd however its not mounted and show that its empty
[00:57] <Bashing-om> kdawg: Terminology ? as 'mount' attaches 'file systems ' .
[00:57] <kdawg> i am currently reading this article
[00:57] <kdawg> m
[00:57] <kdawg> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/261515/how-can-i-mount-a-disk-without-formatting-it
[00:58] <hpsmm> ok I go to sleep its 2:58am here :) goodnight and thx k1l_ :)
[00:58] <OerHeks> kdawg, you need to find out what the partition(s) are and what type, ext4/ntfs/exfat ..
[00:58] <kdawg> ntfs
[00:59] <OerHeks> if that NTFS is clean, no broken files or something, you would see it in filemanager
[00:59] <gde33> changing permission didn't work (assuming I did it correctly)
[01:01] <kdawg> changing permissions?
[01:02] <kdawg> you mean some how claiming owner ship of the drive before mounting it
[01:02] <OerHeks> gde33, vlc got that option in its menu http://askubuntu.com/questions/100231/how-to-set-always-on-top-on-vlc-by-default
[01:02] <kdawg> Also ubuntu mounts all other drives connected on bootup
[01:02] <kdawg> just this one shows up in disks
[01:02] <gde33> OerHeks: I keep changing that, it just forgets I did
[01:03] <OerHeks> kdawg, no permission change, ntfs is not posix, if that ntfs partition is not visible automatic, then check with windows chkdsk
[01:03] <kdawg> as unallocated space
[01:04] <kdawg> windows shows it as a drive thats 16843 GB lol
[01:04] <kdawg> which its not
[01:04] <lordcirth> kdawg, sounds like one of those Chinese 16TB HDD's they sell on the street XD
[01:05] <kdawg> its a 3tb
[01:05] <kdawg> lol
[01:06] <kdawg> ubuntu knows what it is lol
[01:06] <kdawg> i think because it was part of a drive pool
[01:06] <OerHeks> format it
[01:06] <kdawg> it shows the entire pool data size or tire size of the pool size. if that makes sent
[01:07] <kdawg> i dont want to formate it i want to keep the file structure
[01:07] <debkad> kdawg: if you are sure there were data inside it, try undelete
[01:07] <OerHeks> nope, not with ntfs
[01:08] <kdawg> you mean i cant keep the folder structure
[01:09] <kdawg> Heres the thing in the passed long time ago anyways sometimes there was away to mount drives and to display the data the best it could. However i dont remember how. hense why i am here.
[01:09] <debkad> i meant Testdik sorry for a typo
[01:09] <kdawg> You could then backup your files. and corrupted files would copy
[01:10] <kdawg> wouldn't*
[01:10] <kdawg> i mean
[01:10] <kdawg> but this was at least 10 years ago since i've attempted something like this
[01:10] <debkad> kdawg: read this http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step it may help you i think
[01:11] <kdawg> thanks i'll read it right now
[01:11] <debkad> especially the part "NTFS Boot sector recovery" kdawg
[01:12] <debkad> cross fingers too :)
[01:16] <kdawg> umm i wonder
[01:16] <kdawg> I can try plugging in the drive directly to the motherboard
[01:17] <kdawg> in the passed if memory serves me right sometimes that works
[01:17] <kdawg> to read the disk
[01:17] <kdawg> properly
[01:17] <kdawg> wish me luck
[01:17] <debkad> good luck
[01:21] <etzerd> hello all
[01:21] <Keydns> how is it i am supposed to save attachments through alpine?
[01:22] <etzerd> how do i check which version of linux that I'm using
[01:22] <debkad> etzerd: uname
[01:22] <debkad> for full: uname -a
[01:22] <bazhang> lsb_release =a  you mean
[01:22] <etzerd> thanks
[01:22] <debkad> or cat /etc/os-release
[01:23] <OerHeks> cat /etc/issue
[01:23] <Keydns> figure it out!!
[01:23] <Keydns> figured (***
[01:23] <bazhang> debkad, presumably he means the OS, not the kernel
[01:23] <OerHeks> hostnamectl status
[01:24] <debkad> bazhang: ah you're right, i mis-understand the question
[01:28] <kdawg> anyone no if cardboard is conductive
[01:28] <kdawg> want it to temporarily seperate a hard drive from my ssd
[01:28] <kdawg> lol
[01:28] <kdawg> temporary might be like 4 days
[01:29] <kdawg> or does that sound like a bad idea
[01:30] <bazhang> ##hardware kdawg
[01:30] <lordcirth> kdawg, cardboard is not conductive.  But be careful about things slipping, falling, vibrating, etc
[01:30] <debkad> didn't get that, but may be it is better to ask that in ##hardware or something
[01:31] <kdawg> yup thanks just didn't want a static charge or something lol
[01:31] <kdawg> i brushed it off by hand a lil in case of dust
[01:31] <debkad> never touch the device when under electricity ( just an advice )
[01:31] <lordcirth> kdawg, cardboard can cause static, I don't know how bad.  Again, ##hardware.
[01:33] <kdawg> thanks lordcirth
[01:36] <dust> ubuntu-drivers-common:i386:
[01:36] <dust>  Depends: python3-apt but it is not going to be installed
[01:36] <dust>  Depends: python3-xkit  but it is not installable
[01:36] <dust>   Conflicts: ubuntu-drivers-common  but 1:0.4.17.2 is to be installed
[01:37] <dust> without them steam dosnt run... 16.04
[01:37] <gtxbb> kdawg, know is not spelled "no"
[01:47] <Ranieri__> Hello #ubuntu
[01:48] <Ranieri__> I have a particular problem. I need to print out some pages of a secure pdf that uses Vitrium. It's unprintable and uncopyable. You have to log into it on page 1, and then it accesses a server for the content before it's displayed. Any ideas?
[01:49] <Ranieri__> If I screenshot the pages, it is very blurry when I need to print it.
[01:50] <Ranieri__> Also, the only reader that properly unlocks the pdf is adobe reader. I am licensed to read it, so I have the content
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[01:50] <Spaz> hi
[02:02] <aus_mal> Hi, I am trying to uninstall an application. When using sudo apt-get remove --purge it gets rid of most, but searching in files reveals that there are some files left over, am I missing something or will I inevitably have to manually remove some files. Thanks.
[02:09] <lotuspsychje> aus_mal: what did you purge exactly
[02:11] <aus_mal> it was gnome-mahjongg
[02:12] <aus_mal> then i typed in apt-get autoremove
[02:13] <Bashing-om> aus_mal: Maybe ' sudo apt autoremove gnome-mahjongg ' But the package manager will not touch files in your /home .
[02:13] <aus_mal> sorry if I should be browsing askubuntu or the forums, just got a bit lonely!
[02:15] <aus_mal> thanks for the answers, just to confirm: "sudo apt autoremove --purge" will get rid of everything associated with the program EXCEPT what is in the Home folder, and I can stop obsessing about any files that were left over? Thanks again.
[02:21] <ubuntu309> Anyone know when a Ubuntu phone will be available
[02:22] <Bashing-om> aus_mal: I am a hands on type .. and it is surprising what ' dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge ' reveals about orphaned files .
[02:24] <aus_mal> thanks, I will try to decipher that!
[02:25] <aus_mal> aha.
[02:25] <codepython7771> my apt-get update is hanging
[02:25] <codepython7771> how do i fix that?
[02:26] <aus_mal> would love to learn what all these mean and do. would "just" learning bash help with that? Thank you mate.
[02:26] <Bashing-om> aus_mal: Basically all it says is that if the package manager finds a file marked as 'rc' then purge it !
[02:28] <etzerd> hi all
[02:28] <etzerd> ?
[02:28] <Bashing-om> aus_mal: Learning bash is never a waste of effort : http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FullBashGuide . My favorite .
[02:28] <aus_mal> thanks very much!
[02:29] <Chukaru> my battery is charged 100% but it doesn't stop, the battery still keeps charging for no reason at all. how can i fix this?
[02:29] <etzerd> I'm using ubuntu 16.10 beta 1 now beta 2 is just release. how do I upgrade to beta 2 or should I do a fresh install?
[02:29] <Chukaru> im on ubuntu 16.04
[02:29] <Chukaru> please someone lend me a hand
[02:30] <etzerd> I'm using ubuntu 16.10 beta 1 now beta 2 is just release. how do I upgrade to beta 2 or should I do a fresh install?
[02:30] <Bashing-om> !16.10 | etzerd
[02:30] <Chukaru> etzerd, please be patient, i too have submitted a problem
[02:31] <Chukaru> my battery is charged 100% but it doesn't stop, the battery still keeps charging for no reason at all. how can i fix this?
[02:35] <etzerd> thanks
[02:43] <jtdesigns01> how do I create a service of the kind manageable with "sudo service * stop/start/status"  in ubuntu 16.04?
[02:45] <Bashing-om> jtdesigns01: See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers http://www.howtogeek.com/216454/how-to-manage-systemd-services-on-a-linux-system/ .
[02:45] <debkad> jtdesigns01: i think most init are under /etc/init.d pick one and see how it is wrotten
[02:47] <jtdesigns01> debkad: yeah, but when I did that and tried to start it,  it told me that the ".service" unit wasnt found. IE systemd unit file.
[02:50] <debkad> that for systemd ".service" i think
[02:57] <rexwin_> I have a production server running websites. Will running sudo apt--get upgrade break my apache and SSL functionality?
[02:59] <Bashing-om> rexwin_: "upgrade" only updates installed packages . and if you are stable now there is no reason to expect breakage . ( sudo apt update 1st !)
[02:59] <uminded> Im stuck in nvidia login loop. Virtual console is dumping call traces and i cant log in. Secure boot is disabled. How do I remove the driver?
[03:00] <rexwin_> can I revert back to the original version after apt-get upgrade if there are problems?
[03:01] <Bashing-om> rexwin_: short answer is no . Long answer is yes with a lot of trouble and know how .
[03:01] <codepython7771> anyone knows how to fix this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23249502/ ?
[03:05] <Bashing-om> !info texlive-latex-base-doc trusty updates
[03:06] <Bashing-om> codepython7771: ^ a PPA " what returns ' apt-cache policy texlive-latex-base ' ?
[03:09] <codepython7771> Bashing-om: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23249519/
[03:10] <OerHeks> contact the ppa maintainer, bad packaging. or you didn't remove texlive before using this ppa.
[03:12] <Guest38355> Hello
[03:12] <codepython7771> OerHeks: am i supposed to remove texlive before adding the ppa?
[03:13] <OerHeks> codepython7771, the lin#53 goes wrong, Unpacking texlive-latex-base-doc
[03:13] <OerHeks> so without previous docs, maybe you succeed
[03:14] <codepython7771> OerHeks: how do i remove current texlive, before i try again?
[03:15] <Bashing-om> ghjkl;'
[03:17] <codepython7771> OerHeks: sudo apt-get purge texlive* - cant even execute that
[03:17] <OerHeks> use ppa-purge
[03:17] <codepython7771> OerHeks: exact command please
[03:17] <OerHeks> and the option -purge and autoclean and see if there is any cruft in your homefolder
[03:17] <OerHeks> no
[03:17] <fastAndBulbous> I have to regularly transfer large amount of audio files to an android device and the mtp transfer is heinously slow... is there a way to speed this up or this just the way it is?
[03:17] <OerHeks> first ppa purge
[03:18] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[03:18] <OerHeks> good luck, i don't support ppa's further. endless game.
[03:21] <Guest38355> Greetings
[03:21] <Guest38355> End Game huh.
[03:22] <Guest38355> Not a very fun alternative
[03:23]  * OerHeks wonders how that is related to ubuntu support
[03:25] <leptone> is vim not installed by default on ubuntu 16 LTS?
[03:26] <leptone> i can use the vi command (like i usually do on OS X) but a lot of the commands were working different that how they used to in vi on my mac.
[03:27] <cash> Hi Everyone
[03:27] <OerHeks> vi is installed, Vim Improved
[03:33] <trevor_s> how do i stop an old program from running in linux when there are two different versions?
[03:33] <trevor_s> the old one always runs instead of the new one
[03:34] <OerHeks> normally the old one gets disabled.
[03:34] <trevor_s> ok well lets assume that doesn't happen
[03:35] <OerHeks> but with this much info, who can tell?
[03:35] <trevor_s> these are tools that were cloned from github
[03:36] <coonundrum> are there any white nationalists here?
[03:36] <cash> no coonundrum
[03:37] <debkad> ?
[03:38] <OerHeks> he is lonely, guys, not seeking ubuntu support.
[03:38] <coonundrum> no i just want to code with fellow white nationalists
[03:38] <coonundrum> we can improve the ubuntu codebase
[03:38] <debkad> hmm
[03:39] <cash> Guys i have a legit question - i have an old macbook 5,2 that I UEFI boot ubuntu with.  Sometimes when I resume from Suspend, the wireless card (broadcom) doesnt turn back on and pickup wifi
[03:39] <coonundrum> that's a known problem cash
[03:40] <cash> any suggestions? I am not sure if this is wifi driver related, or some other problem - it happends randomly
[03:40] <coonundrum> i experience the same problem and so do a bunch of my friends
[03:40] <coonundrum> what i did was write a bash script that resets the wireless interfaces
[03:40] <cash> so.. if i type sudo restart service network-manager it may or may not come back
[03:41] <cash> im guessing thats what your script does?
[03:41] <coonundrum> yeah something like that
[03:41] <cash> I guess i am thinking of possibly changing wifi drivers
[03:41] <cash> my card is partially supported by b43
[03:41] <cash> but right now im using wl (aka bcmwl-kernel-source)
[03:41] <coonundrum> http://askubuntu.com/questions/452826/wireless-networking-not-working-after-resume-in-ubuntu-14-04
[03:42] <coonundrum> that's an issue from 14.04
[03:42] <coonundrum> that's like 2 years ago lol
[03:42] <coonundrum> what version are you running?
[03:42] <cash> 16.04
[03:42] <cash> on this macbook - its not my main machine but id like to get it working somehow
[03:42] <cash> i mean, it works, but id like to squash the remaining bugs when i find em
[03:43] <coonundrum> well ubuntu is kinky like that
[03:43] <cash> oddly, i was using fedora 24 and for 2 weeks i had no problems on the 4.7.2 kernel until it was updated
[03:43] <cash> but that was over a month ago
[03:44] <cash> and i brought it back to ubuntu on a uefi boot, not a bios boot
[03:44] <cash> so far thngs have been slightly better but the broadcom wifi issues are so annoying when they pop up
[03:44] <coonundrum> they should just integrate code that automatically resets all drives after suspension
[03:44] <coonundrum> is over
[03:44] <cash> thats a good idea
[03:44] <cash> I wonder tho - should I try the b43 driver instead of WL?
[03:45] <coonundrum> see if that makes a difference
[03:45] <cash> ok
[03:45] <cash> could the issue be graphics related?  Im using the stock driver but this macbook has a geforce 9400m from nvidia
[03:45] <fission6> i am running sudo service celery start and getting start: Job failed to start
[03:45] <fission6> how can i debug a bit
[03:46] <cash> nvidia, apple, broadcom = proprietary mess
[03:46] <coonundrum> you're running a vm on top right?
[03:48] <WhiteNationalist> i don't know why i was klined
[03:48] <WhiteNationalist> i didn't violate any of freenode's terms of service
[03:48] <WhiteNationalist> rip
[03:48] <WhiteNationalist> lol
[03:49] <debkad> oh that you lol
[03:49] <cash> kik
[03:49] <cash> lol
[03:49] <cash> coonundrum who were you asking about the vm?
[03:49] <WhiteNationalist> you cash
[03:50] <WhiteNationalist> i was asking if you were using a vm
[03:50] <cash> Ahh
[03:50] <cash> Ok
[03:50] <cash> No I am not using a VM
[03:50] <cash> the old macbook boots in uefi mode straight from the bootloader
[03:50] <WhiteNationalist> that's cool
[03:50] <cash> oddly - the trackpad configured itself totally differently than a Bios install
[03:51] <cash> did this automaticlly - theres no right click anymore lol
[03:51] <cash> but thats another issue
[03:51] <j0_> were can one go to get paid linux support? i'm needing help reinstalling grub on an older system
[03:51] <cash> my employees use it
[03:51] <cash> j0 call system76
[03:51] <cash> $100 per hr
[03:51] <NeXTSUN> why would a whitenationalist use ubuntu?
[03:51] <WhiteNationalist> NeXTSUN: why not?
[03:51] <j0_> cash: thanks.. anyone that does 24x7 support? :)
[03:52] <NeXTSUN> why not aryan OS?
[03:52] <fission6> how do i reload upstart scripts in /etc/init
[03:52] <cash> j0 idk
[03:52] <WhiteNationalist> ubuntu is a decent os that you can use to develop web apps with
[03:52] <NeXTSUN> Yeah but ubtuntu is about africa
[03:52] <cfhowlett> NeXTSUN, please.  not even remotely true.
[03:52] <WhiteNationalist> mark shuttleworth is white
[03:53] <NeXTSUN> ironic right?
[03:53] <NeXTSUN> but he loves ....
[03:53] <Bashing-om> j0_: What is the nature of the problem that you do not utilize these assetts here ?
[03:53] <NeXTSUN> mark shuttlwworth loves africa
[03:53] <j0_> Bashing-om: i'm in a rush and would prefer to pay for support and hand holding :)
[03:53] <NeXTSUN> wouldn't that be against the white cause whitenationalist??
[03:53] <WhiteNationalist> no
[03:53] <cash> j0 unfortunatley linux takes forever
[03:54] <cfhowlett> !ot | NeXTSUN
[03:54] <WhiteNationalist> actually it's bonus points for the white cause
[03:54] <WhiteNationalist> you never saw any non whites invent computers or software
[03:54] <cash> yo White -Dr Dre invented beats, so there
[03:54] <j0_> cash: lol.. yes, it sometimes does... it's been too many years since I worked with linux so all my knowledge is rusty
[03:54] <cash> :)
[03:54] <fission6> why does this ln -s show up in black and red? http://imgur.com/a/PUJ3f
[03:54] <WhiteNationalist> cash lol that's not an invention
[03:54] <cash> j0 the internet has so much free info
[03:55] <NeXTSUN> why name dedicate it african philosphy then and use the os?
[03:55] <reisio> fission6: readlink it
[03:55] <cash> Jay Z invented the Tidal Software whch is bombing
[03:55] <WhiteNationalist> he did not invent that either
[03:55] <fission6> reisio: ?
[03:55] <Bashing-om> j0_: Sorry - not really though - that I know of no such; Maybe a local shop ?
[03:55] <reisio> fission6: 'readlinke path/to/thing'
[03:55] <cfhowlett> fission6, your terminal is set to display that way.  different terminal emulators = different themes
[03:55] <NeXTSUN> mark shuttleworth would be disgusted in you whitenationalist so why use his software?
[03:55] <reisio> fission6: 'readlink path/to/thing'
[03:55] <j0_> Bashing-om, not any local linux shops i'm aware of
[03:55] <reisio> yes, the white south african would be disgusted
[03:55] <WhiteNationalist> LOL
[03:55] <j0_> right now i'm not even able to boot my rescue cd.. keeps wanting to know where my driver image is.. ideas?
[03:56] <cash> the wright brothers were black right?
[03:56] <reisio> cash: obviously
[03:56] <WhiteNationalist> get mark shuttleworth in here and let's see what he says
[03:56] <NeXTSUN> iam pretty sure mark shuttleworth is liberal as isarael and your not
[03:56] <WhiteNationalist> you're not being very liberal right now with your attacks
[03:56] <fission6> reisio: what am i looking for in the output
[03:56] <fission6> i get celery.cong
[03:56] <fission6> which is odd
[03:56] <reisio> fission6: pastebin
[03:57] <NeXTSUN> you're
[03:57] <NeXTSUN> who said i WAS
[03:57] <fission6> should be celery.conf but i dont understand what readlink is showing
[03:57] <NeXTSUN> I just find it ironic
[03:57] <Bashing-om> j0_: 1st oeder is to insure that in bios the CD drive is set to 1st boot priority .
[03:57] <NeXTSUN> and gives your name a bad rap
[03:57] <j0_> Bashing-om, i think i'm going to try to burn it to an actual physical CD.. (it is an old system)
[03:57] <j0_> right now i'm trying off USB
[03:57] <cash> guys - lets not get carried away.  back to computer stuff
[03:58] <debkad> what happen here
[03:58] <WhiteNationalist> NeXTSUN: it would be ironic if the people who invented ubuntu were niggers
[03:58] <cfhowlett> j0_, old systems like lubuntu
[03:58] <debkad> ah solved
[03:58] <cash> yes cfhowlett
[03:58] <procyon> why did that take so long :|
[03:58] <cash> they love it
[03:58] <Bashing-om> j0_: one other step back . verify the .iso ? and verify the cipy to USB ?
[03:59] <cash> especially old ex-corporate business laptops from Dell
[04:02] <cash> guys, when i type lspci -knn | grep Net -A2 , im told i have a different wifi card than I actually do
[04:08] <fission6> how do i reload upstart scripts, it does not seem to reconigze the service of a script
[04:09] <Rarrikins> fission6: service whatever restart
[04:09] <Bashing-om> fission6: What release are you on ?
[04:09] <debkad> service name_of_service restart or stop then start
[04:09] <fission6> celery: unrecognized service
[04:09] <fission6> i just added celery.conf to /etc/init/
[04:10] <debkad> o_o
[04:11] <fission6> any ideas/
[04:14] <debkad> fission6: there is a simple init.d script here: https://gist.github.com/naholyr/4275302 take a look
[04:16] <debkad> i think i lost internet again
[04:16] <fission6> my issue is that upstart does not find the service
[04:17] <debkad> you must create it i think, as like in the example in that link
[04:30] <unrobot> Suggest me a good icon pack that suits with ARC dark theme.
[05:15] <ubuntu> 10:40:188:48
[05:26] <Guest38355> lol
[05:26] <Guest38355> Looking for freenode admins
[05:26] <cfhowlett> Guest38355, go to freenode, not ubuntu
[05:35] <matejko> !ot
[05:36] <matejko> @login
[05:36] <matejko> how to login?
[05:36] <matejko> :D
[05:36] <matejko> on IRC
[05:36] <cfhowlett> !register | matejko
[05:39] <matejko> cfhowlett: thx but im registered but don't know how to login lol
[05:40] <pantato> i'm trying to use youtube-dl to download a playlist
[05:40] <pantato> and the online articles i'm seeing aren't helping
[05:40] <pantato> it only downloads the first song
[05:40] <pantato> i've tried a bunch of different arguments
[05:40] <pantato> no idea what i'm doing wrong
[05:42] <ballpen> pantato: paste yer output bro
[05:42] <Jordan_U> matejko: Your IRC client should have an option to set a login password. While there are other ways to identify, that is usually the best way.
[05:42] <ballpen> youtube-dl "playlist_url"
[05:42] <pantato> ballpen: figured it out. I needed to put the url in quotes
[05:42] <ballpen> cool
[05:42] <pantato> don't need quotes for a singular video though. Weird.
[05:43] <ballpen> pantato: it also happens in peerflix
[05:43] <debkad> may be it contain some special characters
[05:43] <debkad> ie: & and stuff
[05:43] <ballpen> you need to put torrent/magnet link in quotes
[05:43] <pantato> ownload] 100% of 4.95MiB in 00:00
[05:43] <pantato> woops didn't mean to paste that
[05:43] <debkad> congratulation
[05:44] <pantato> ballpen: ooh can i use that to bypass tpb's stupid magnet thing?
[05:44] <ballpen> pantato: it helps in streaming movies without downloading it
[05:45] <ballpen> peerflix "torrent/magnet lin" --vlc/mplayer
[05:45] <matejko_2> @login
[05:45] <pantato> oh sick
[05:45] <matejko_2> @login hpsmm
[05:46] <pantato> that's awesome
[05:46] <pantato> is there a gui version?
[05:46] <ballpen> pantato: sure it is
[05:46] <ballpen> pantato: no gui bro but cli one is very easy to use
[05:47] <hpsmm> @login
[05:48] <hpsmm> @login hpsmm
[05:48] <hpsmm> !login
[05:48] <hpsmm> @login
[05:48] <hpsmm> !identify
[05:48] <cfhowlett> hpsmm, 1.  that is not how freenoe logs in   2.  this is not the freenode channel.  go to #freenode
[05:49] <hpsmm> okay i get it, thx
[05:53] <hpsmm> finally?
[05:55] <DK2> what is the best way to upgrade a productive server from ubuntu 14 to 16?
[05:56] <ballpen> DK2: take ma advice don't do it
[05:56] <ballpen> 14 is still much better than 16
[05:56] <DK2> whys that?
[05:57] <OerHeks> DK2, just upgrade to the next lts, and read the changes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes
[05:58] <OerHeks> and if you production-server, you should have a test-server too
[05:58] <OerHeks> c/if you have
[06:00] <alkisg> It's quite easy to do a `cp -a /old-installation /new-installation` to keep a backup before upgrades...
[06:00] <orlock> OerHeks: Everybody has a test server - Some people even have seperate production serers!
[06:21] <ulrichard> How can I run a snap from the commandline? "snap run telegram-sergiusens" doesn't work.
[06:25] <ducasse> ulrichard: look in /snap/bin
[06:25] <OerHeks> ulrichard, snap list # then you find the names, type a few letters and tab to complete
[06:31] <ulrichard> OerHeks: That is how I found the name that the question is about.
[06:32] <ulrichard> ducasse: What do I look for in /snap/bin?
[06:32] <OerHeks> wait, after install, isn't it available in the dash menu with icon ?
[06:32] <OerHeks> jups, it is
[06:33] <ulrichard> OerHeks: Yes, I can start it from the dash. But I want it to automatically start when I log in.
[06:34] <OerHeks> open startup programs, type telegram in dash, and drag the icon to startup programs, done
[06:37] <ulrichard> OerHeks: That seems to work. Thanks for this insight. I dodn't know drag n drop works for this. The commandline it resulted in is : "env BAMF_DESKTOP_FILE_HINT=/var/lib/snapd/desktop/applications/telegram-sergiusens_telegram.desktop /snap/bin/telegram-sergiusens.telegram %U"
[06:38] <OerHeks> saves a lot of typing
[06:39] <User39943> I wish to run Ubuntu side by side with Windows 10 (my primary OS). Will things get all screwy with boot loader or w.e?
[06:40] <orlock> User39943: No, should be fine - tried Ubuntu for Windows?
[06:40] <OerHeks> User39943, it can be done, with/without UEFI
[06:41] <pantato> User39943: it should work. But I much prefer to have separate HDs for multiple OS installs
[06:41] <pantato> 1 ssd for winblows, 1 for ubuntu
[06:41] <User39943> I'm using an Ultrabook, so sadly don't have the option
[06:42] <pantato> i honestly wouldn't do it
[06:42] <pantato> what are you gonna use ubuntu for?
[06:42] <User39943> orlock: Did you mean run it as a Virtual machine?
[06:42] <pantato> User39943: no, there is a version of ubuntu that can be installed inside of windows 10 now
[06:42] <User39943> programming, etc
[06:43] <pantato> User39943: if you're gonna use it for that, I would just use a VM
[06:43] <OerHeks> !ubuwin
[06:43] <pantato> or a VPS even should be fine if you're not making GUI stuff
[06:43] <OerHeks> beta and not reliable yet
[06:43] <pantato> I get a really awesome/cheap VPS through nfoservers.com
[06:43] <pantato> i love it
[06:44] <OerHeks> User39943, let windows make the free space and you'll be fine
[06:44] <pantato> OerHeks: I've had the most success by installing windows first, then booting off the ubuntu usb stick, then choosing the "install alongside windows" option
[06:45] <pantato> which resizes the partition inside of that setup
[06:46] <pantato> User39943: have you tried VirtualBox?
[06:47] <User39943> To be honest... I want to give Linux a fair chance to possibly be my new primary OS. So I'm thinking dual booting is probably the way to go. I don't like experiencing performance issues VM's are prone to (or well in my experience... probably crappy CPU's)
[06:48] <pantato> User39943: does your machine have an SSD or an HDD?
[06:48] <User39943> SSD
[06:48] <pantato> other than programming, what do you use your machine for?
[06:48] <gebruiker> is the new flash already available? source: source: http://www.zdnet.com/article/adobe-reanimates-npapi-flash-for-linux-after-4-year-stasis/
[06:49] <pantato> User39943
[06:49] <User39943> browsing internet, videos, word processing
[06:49] <User39943> typical things
[06:50] <pantato> well if you are a super user of micrsoft office nothing can really replace that as of yet
[06:51] <User39943> yeah... abiword just isn't the same
[06:51] <pantato> as far as the other things i can say with confidence ubuntu is perfectly fine if not better
[06:51] <pantato> what sort of things are you wanting to program?
[06:52] <Kartagis> does anyone remember my videos fps issue?
[06:53] <User39943> some phone apps, and some pointless University code assignments
[06:53] <morriswaker> Anyone seen that new Denial film by Becker Street?
[06:54] <User39943> languages - C++, C#, python, lisp, java
[06:54] <User39943> oh and C
[06:54] <pantato> User39943: id say go ahead and dual boot. Bear in mind youll have to do a total fresh install of windows if you want things back to normal once you do
[06:55] <pantato> also i recommenr 14.04 instead of 16.04
[06:55] <pantato> recommend*
[06:56] <OerHeks> if he has a recent netbook, 16.04 lts
[06:56] <pantato> 14.04 forever
[06:56] <User39943> Is 16.04 kind of.... problematic
[06:57] <OerHeks> no.
[06:58] <pantato> i dunno it boots up slower and there are less software guides for it
[06:58] <Kartagis> User39943: it's usually a case of PEBKAC
[06:58] <User39943> oic
[06:58] <pantato> I'm just biased because 14.04 has been so good to me :p
[06:59] <pantato> oh also whatever version you pick stick with it. Ubuntu does not do well with distro upgrades. Fresh installs only
[06:59] <OerHeks> please pantato, totally nonsense ..
[07:01] <pantato> OerHeks: When is the last time you did a distro uograde without running into a bunch of problems?
[07:01] <User39943> Do I want to run a Ubuntu Installer or Install via flash drive?
[07:01] <OerHeks> pantato, many times.
[07:02] <User39943> I don't want Windows to get all screwed up.  Will this only happen should I chose to remove Ubuntu?
[07:02] <OerHeks> User39943, do not use the wubi installer, use a flashdrive
[07:02] <gebruiker> try ubuntu in virtualbox
[07:04] <User39943> This has me concerned lol "Bear in mind youll have to do a total fresh install of windows if you want things back to normal once you do"
[07:04] <pantato> User39943: make your flash drive with a windows program called Rufus. It is incredibly reliable
[07:04] <Ben64> User39943: that's completely wrong
[07:04] <orlock> User39943: nah, not really
[07:04] <OerHeks> he is trolling
[07:04] <pantato> Im judt giving advice based on my experience im not trolling
[07:04] <Ben64> User39943: the channel ##windows can advise you on how to re-do the MBR so windows will boot, then you can go ahead and delete the ubuntu partitions
[07:05] <orlock> OerHeks: yeah, ubuntu the OS and this channel are both so noob friendly there's a lot of room for trolls to spout incorrect-but-plausible crap at unsuspecting people
[07:05] <pantato> im not trolling jfc
[07:05] <User39943> Okay, so things only become problematic for Windows if i chose to remove Ubuntu?
[07:05] <OerHeks> User39943, it does not.
[07:05] <Ben64> User39943: not if you do it the way i just said
[07:06] <User39943> OIC
[07:06] <gebruiker> User39943, I had to reinstall my entire computer
[07:06] <User39943> thanks
[07:06] <pantato> User39943: if theres one piece of advice i am absolutely 100% sure on is to make your ubuntu flash drive with a program called rufus. You cannot go wrong with that one
[07:07] <User39943> I've used it before as well
[07:07] <gebruiker> but yeah go ahead it will be fun
[07:07] <pantato> cool
[07:07] <wilsonchloe582> hi
[07:09] <User39943> Oh! Is swapping files between the OS's on same SSD easy these days?
[07:09] <User39943> Or do I need to create a separate partition for that?
[07:09] <ducasse> User39943: linux can read/write just about anything.
[07:10] <gebruiker> User39943, is linux more secure than windows?
[07:10] <OerHeks> ubuntu can read/write ntfs/exfat fine, and there is a windows driver for ext4 .. not used myself.
[07:11] <wilsonchloe582> hey i may sound like a newb here but how do i use wireshark on ubuntu 16.04 ive looked online and on youtube and i cant get a straight foward answer
[07:11] <ducasse> wilsonchloe582: use for what?
[07:11] <Ben64> wilsonchloe582: sudo apt-get install wireshark; wireshark
[07:12] <wilsonchloe582> no not how to install it like how to grab ppls ip and see where they are
[07:12] <Ben64> what does that mean
[07:12] <User39943> don't you need specific hardware
[07:12] <wilsonchloe582> i know how to install stuff lol
[07:12] <Ben64> wireshark just captures packets
[07:12] <User39943> not all wireless adapters can do... special... stuff
[07:13] <User39943> oh
[07:13] <wilsonchloe582> @user39943 what do u mean
[07:13] <Ben64> wilsonchloe582: best if you explain in detail what you're trying to do, and what is happening that you don't expect
[07:14] <wilsonchloe582> ok so lets say im on skype or omegle i want to grab there ip and freak them out by telling them ik where they live lol
[07:14] <hateball> Sounds more like ##networking imo
[07:15] <wilsonchloe582> if possible can i do the same from termanil
[07:15] <User39943> wilsonchloe582: what I was referring to was something called monitor mode (though the term escaped me for a moment)
[07:16] <wilsonchloe582> user39943 oh lol
[07:18] <User39943> Time to install Ubuntu... Hopefully all goes well. Thanks for the help
[07:19] <d0d50fe2e21a57c8> Funny song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyxNgnQ9m30
[07:21] <pantato> OerHeks: I did a distro upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04 and it was a total disaster. Errors galore. I googled some of the issues and a lot of people on the forums advised against doing distro upgrades.
[07:22] <pantato> Maybe there's some hoops to jump through, some fixes to apply here and there,
[07:22] <wilsonchloe582> how can i change the color of my name on here is it /color then i just input the color of choice
[07:23] <igoryonya> hello, I do-release-upgrade. It updated package list. Started calculating of changes. Then, it stops, saying: cannot compute system update. Discovered unresolvable problem. Then it aborts upgrading and returns everything to the original state.
[07:23] <igoryonya> It doesn't show details about which packages caused the update abortion
[07:24] <ducasse> pantato: as long as you don't use a hundred ppas distro upgrades work just fine.
[07:24] <igoryonya> Is there a way to find out, what it stumbles upon, so I will @ least know, what to remove before trying to upgrade again?
[07:25] <ducasse> igoryonya: use ppa-purge to get rid of ppa packages
[07:26] <igoryonya> but I need to know, which ppa packages to remove, How to find out which ppa packages are the stumbling block in my case?
[07:27] <ducasse> igoryonya: just remove all of them, ppas are problematic for distro upgrades.
[07:28] <gebruiker> dont use ppa s
[07:28] <jhaji> Hi!!
[07:29] <jhaji> I wan't to keep fixed ip for in-coming requset but rotate ip for sending request
[07:29] <igoryonya> ducasse: I don't want to remove all of them. I need to remove only the necessary ones, since some packages don't exist in new versions of Ubuntu, that I need and I won't be able to reinstall them later.
[07:30] <ducasse> igoryonya: and you don't think they might be causing the problem?
[07:31] <wilsonchloe582> hi
[07:32] <igoryonya> ducasse: I've upgraded many times before with my ppa's enabled and still have packages installed from previous distro, that don't exist in current distro and nothing similar. and everything works fine.
[07:33] <igoryonya> I ment nothing similar, that I could replace the old package with.
[07:35] <ducasse> igoryonya: that may be, but the general advice is that ppas should be removed before upgrades. that's the only supported way.
[07:36] <ducasse> igoryonya: as long as the packages don't cause conflicts, you can install them again later also.
[07:37] <igoryonya> I don't mind to remove, but I would prefer to just remove only the necessary problemmatic packages, not all of them. I need to figure out a way, what package upgrade gets stumbled upon, so I would remove only that, problemmatic package.
[07:39] <d0d50fe2e21a57c8> SWASTIKA
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[07:41] <wilsonchloe582> hi
[07:42] <wilsonchloe582> whats up
[07:42] <wilsonchloe582> ?
[07:42] <mexicantoaster> nothing
[07:42] <mexicantoaster> you?
[07:42] <wilsonchloe582> same how can i change my names color on here
[07:43] <mexicantoaster> I don't know, probably depends on the program you are using
[07:43] <d0d50fe2e21a57c8> Hello
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[07:43] <wilsonchloe582> im useing hexchat
[07:43] <igoryonya> gebruiker: I would not use ppas, if everything, I need was in the official repo. Some times, it happens, when some package appears in the official repo. In this case, I sacrifice the latest version in ppa to the one in official repo
[07:43] <ducasse> d0d50fe2e21a57c8: take the nazi crap elsewhere
[07:43] <igoryonya> d0d50fe2e21a57c8: Oh, yea, and so what
[07:44] <d0d50fe2e21a57c8> lol nazi crap
[07:44] <d0d50fe2e21a57c8> MORE NAZI CRAP!
[07:44] <ducasse> !ops | d0d50fe2e21a57c8
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[07:44] <wilsonchloe582> ?
[07:51] <robotdevil> voice?
[07:54] <demahum> shutdown vs shutdown -h?
[07:54] <demahum> Difference?
[07:56] <Naeil> demahum, you can use the man command to see the '-h' what stand for.
[07:58] <demahum> Naeil: Already read. Can't get it. Basically, I am intrested in the answer which one will really turn off my server - which one is the same as that power off click we do on Ubuntu Desktop?
[08:01] <mexicantoaster> I think I messed up my ubuntu :(
[08:01] <Naeil> demahum, for me when I need to shutdown one of the nodes in my cluster manually I type shutdown -h now
[08:01] <Naeil> follow this link, it is basics but a useful tips : http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-shutdown-linux/
[08:02] <pantato> mexicantoaster: what's up?
[08:03] <mexicantoaster> I was trying to get steam to work my video card, ended up manually installing the radeon drivers which did not work and I somehow got it working but I'm worried I really messed something up
[08:04] <pantato> mexicantoaster: i dont follow. What makes you think you messed something up?
[08:06] <trailtron> Has anyone got any idea on how to get sound working in Epiphany browser in Lubuntu other than 'Lol use firefox'
[08:06] <mexicantoaster> sorry, I'm getting this error "grep: symbol looup error: grep: undefined symbol: pcre_jit_stack_alloc" multiple times
[08:07] <pantato> mexicantoaster: when you do what?
[08:07] <Naeil> trailtron, /j #lubuntu #lubuntu-devel
[08:07] <mexicantoaster> when I run steam from the console
[08:08] <trailtron> #join gnome
[08:08] <pantato> mexicantoaster: http://askubuntu.com/questions/761176/steam-doesnt-start-after-upgrade-to-ubuntu-16-04
[08:08] <pantato> try that?
[08:08] <david89> On a ubuntu spin/derivative, can the ubuntu-sdk ppa be added and used to istall the sdk?
[08:09] <pantato> https://www.google.com/search?q=grep%3A+symbol+looup+error%3A+grep%3A+undefined+symbol%3A+pcre_jit_stack_alloc&oq=grep%3A+symbol+looup+error%3A+grep%3A+undefined+symbol%3A+pcre_jit_stack_alloc&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.501223j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
[08:09] <mexicantoaster> pantato: thanks I will try, it's just become a huge headache getting steam to work
[08:11] <proxx_> mexicantoaster ,well i hate to say this but when u having working fx its pretty straight forward
[08:12] <mexicantoaster> that first link worked! finally.
[08:12] <mexicantoaster> proxx_: what do you mean? the graphics? many other people had similar issues with the video I have online
[08:13] <mexicantoaster> video card*
[08:13] <proxx_> mexicantoaster I admit it can be a pain :P
[08:14] <proxx_> worst part is that nvidia sucks about as much these days , poor linux ppl
[08:14] <mexicantoaster> really? I was thinking I should have bought an nvidia card insteal of a radeon
[08:15] <mexicantoaster> oh wait nvm, I can't read
[08:15] <proxx_> No nvidia is really being a pain the last several years, they screwed over the community
[08:15] <proxx_> ill never buy one again , and yes on-topic :P
[08:17] <demahum> Naeil: Thanks a lot. That command works for me as well. However, I am more interested in fully understanding what is the difference and what happens behind each of them. But thanks of course. :)
[08:18] <atanasio> jjj
[08:18] <atanasio> hijos de puta
[08:23] <HelloEarth> hello
[08:23] <HelloEarth> someone with ELK (Elasticsearch, logstash and kibana) syslog system experience????????
[08:24] <blut> Which pam implementation does Ubuntu 16.04 use?
[08:24] <Naeil> Ask your question HelloEarth and if there is anyone who could help, he/she will spoke up :)
[08:25] <HelloEarth> no questions Naeil
[08:25] <HelloEarth> only opinions
[08:25] <HelloEarth> and recomendations
[08:25] <HelloEarth> thks
[08:25] <de-facto> waaa Xorg is maxing out my hdd and i cant shit xenial down
[08:26] <Naeil> I work daily with those services and I am using docker
[08:26] <thekrynn> is it common for NFS to cause high load averages with minimal cpu?
[08:26] <HelloEarth> are you using ELK?
[08:26] <HelloEarth> i want to monitor all my pfsenses firewalls
[08:27] <HelloEarth> not monitor sorry, only syslog
[08:28] <Naeil> I would recommend this tutorial HelloEarth https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-centralize-logs-with-rsyslog-logstash-and-elasticsearch-on-ubuntu-14-04
[08:29] <de-facto> that was nasty, not even sysrq was working for shutting down
[08:30] <Naeil> demahum, you welcome, sorry I didn't saw your message. the shutdown command have extra arguments while poweroff doesn't, for example we can use shutdown to reboot the system with -r argument while we can't with poweroff
[08:31] <HelloEarth> Thanks Naeil
[08:34] <seo4> asfsdf
[08:34] <seo4> hello
[08:34] <robotdevil> mavis beacon
[08:35] <demahum> Naeil: ok ok - thanks :)
[08:41] <juanonymous> what is a trf compression?
[08:41] <Jakey3> would this cron work 40 9 * * * /sbin/xset dpms force off
[08:42] <juanonymous> and how do i install this on my system?
[08:42] <sun_lchao> hello 米那桑
[08:44] <juanonymous> +trg
[08:44] <juanonymous> +trf
[08:44] <juanonymous> .+trf
[08:46] <sun_lchao> HELLO
[08:46] <robotdevil> sasung printer center freezes consistently....
[08:46] <robotdevil> samsung*
[08:47] <sun_lchao> 米那桑 what are you doing？
[08:50] <sun_lchao> HI
[08:51] <sun_lchao> HI
[08:51] <sun_lchao> HI
[08:53] <akik> !cn
[08:53] <akik> sun_lchao: this channel is for ubuntu linux support
[08:53] <sun_lchao> !cn
[08:57] <lion4407> lol
[09:00] <xtreamwayz> I've got my main drive and a second mounted data drive. What would be the best strategy these days to backup my system in such a way that I can restore it from Ubuntu live.
[09:02] <xtreamwayz> Or even better, restore only parts of it if I messed up something.
[09:06] <kruzin> Hi there, I need help with setting up a crontab to run at startup - any help?
[09:07] <Skyrider> Ello all.. Quick Q before I'll get back on this channel using my irc bouncer. If I create a new linux user, it appears to be created with /bin/sh as shell.
[09:07] <Skyrider> What's the major difference between /bin/bash and /bin/sh?
[09:07] <proxx_> kruzin just ask
[09:07] <Skyrider> I've looked over the internet for it, but I can't find any answer regarding that it doesn't matter which one of the 2 you pick for the user.
[09:07] <Skyrider> It's a sudo user btw.
[09:07] <Jakey3> where do i need to put a script if i want to run a cron job on it?
[09:08] <kruzin> proxx_: Well, I'm running a python script in the crontab. How do I make sure it runs on reboot too?
[09:09] <proxx_> kruzin you can use shutdown scripts for that, just call the same script iirc there is no way of being sure cron does its thing before shutdown etc unless you put a timeout on the shutdowns
[09:10] <k1l> Skyrider: are you sure about /bin/sh? how did you create those?
[09:11] <kruzin> proxx_: hmm.. if I run it the crontab from root - will it keep running? my script is written to loop.
[09:11] <Skyrider> webmin (create user) auto applied bin/sh
[09:11] <proxx_> kruzin well in that case why would you need a cron ?
[09:12] <k1l> Skyrider: oh, webmin. well that is known to make a mess of your system
[09:12] <proxx_> kruzin if you are saying it runs on an infinite loop i suggest you just make a sort of daemon out of it that is started post boot
[09:12] <kruzin> proxx_: I run the script which sleeps for 30 seconds and starts again in a loop. The problem is, when I restart the machine, I want it to auto-run
[09:12] <Skyrider> Really? :p never experienced that.
[09:12] <Skyrider> Could be that I never have noticed.
[09:12] <kruzin> proxx_: how could I do that?
[09:13] <Skyrider> What do you use then for a control panel? (if you use any)
[09:13] <k1l> !webmin | Skyrider
[09:13] <Skyrider> Ouch
[09:13] <Skyrider> That sucks
[09:13] <proxx_> kruzin depends on how clean it has to be , you could just make a post boot script which is hackish but easy
[09:14] <Skyrider> Any recommendations for a free CP?
[09:14] <k1l> Skyrider: i dont use a control panel. i manage my systems manually.
[09:14] <kruzin> proxx_: Hmm.. let me give it a shot
[09:14] <Skyrider> Alrighty.
[09:14] <Skyrider> Thanks :)
[09:16] <proxx_> @kruzin you could for testing purp redirect its output to another file , easier to see if its running n stuff
[09:16] <kruzin> proxx_: you mean script >> output.file or something?
[09:17] <proxx_> kruzin yes
[09:17] <kruzin> proxx_: sure, I'll give it a try right away
[09:17] <proxx_> kruzin depending on which version you are but this would be the better cleaner way https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-automatically-execute-shell-script-at-startup-boot-on-systemd-linux
[09:18] <kruzin> proxx_: checking
[09:28] <z8z> how to access my ubuntu desktop using some remote desktop system?
[09:30] <proxx_> z8z look up X11 forwarding over SSH
[09:31] <z8z> proxx_: isnt that incredibly slow?
[09:32] <lotuscomputers> z8z: be carefull with remote desktops for security reasons
[09:33] <proxx_> z8z , depends or your line , but who needs a gui really ?
[09:33] <OerHeks> if you want to play arcade games remote, yes.
[09:34] <z8z> proxx_: the people who needs to use and app with a gui in remote :D
[09:34] <lotuscomputers> z8z: those people get mostly system compromized also
[09:35] <proxx_> z8z you can passthrough a single app instead of the whole desktop
[09:35] <proxx_> z8z Basically start the gui remotely with the display running local
[09:36] <z8z> lotuscomputers: but some of them don't give a %£)" about being compromized as they are not running any classified stuff
[09:36] <proxx_> z8z I do that all the time with virt-manager
[09:36] <proxx_> Hes just scared and doesnt know how to protect himself ,
[09:37] <lotuscomputers> lol
[09:38] <z8z> proxx_: thanks i know how to do that but i was searching for something fast and extremely insecure to work comfortable :D
[09:38] <proxx_> vnc
[09:38] <proxx_> nomachine is also very awesome
[09:39] <th0r> z8z, (nice job of answering the questoin guys). There are several ways to access a gui remotely. VNC is popular. I have done some research with a friend in europe and found ssh X-forwarding was pretty good since it only sends the open window.
[09:39] <z8z> ye vnc i couldn't figure how to have applications top bar to be shown :D
[09:39] <th0r> z8z, there was also a package called NX that I doubt the folks at ubuntu would allow to be installed, but it was faster than anythnig except ssh/X
[09:39] <ThePentester> problem with creating users
[09:40] <ThePentester> i know this sound strange but this what happens
[09:40] <proxx_> z8z look into guacamole, just run it in a webbrowser (html5)
[09:40] <k1l> ThePentester: what ubuntu is it exactly?
[09:40] <ThePentester>  i can't create users except with the name "test"
[09:40] <proxx_> z8z awesome performance
[09:41] <ThePentester> k1l , actually i'm using debian
[09:41] <k1l> ThePentester: then please ask in #debian
[09:41] <ThePentester> k1l i can't send anything there i don't know why
[09:41] <th0r> z8z, if you just need a program, and not the whole desktop, ssh and X-forwarding is probably the way to go
[09:41] <ThePentester> ubuntu is based on debian ?!
[09:41] <k1l> ThePentester: i guess its because you are running as root, which is bad.
[09:41] <lotuscomputers> !debian | ThePentester
[09:41] <ThePentester> i told you i can't create users
[09:42] <k1l> ThePentester: then ask in ##linux
[09:42] <th0r> z8z, you can do it on windows also (or could...don't know about win8 or win10) using a package called xming
[09:42] <z8z> proxx_: guacamole :|
[09:42] <ppf> ThePentester: you need to register and identify with nickserv for ##debian
[09:42] <ThePentester> ppf already done it
[09:43] <proxx_> z8z I had a test setup with that and it works beyond anything i expected
[09:44] <z8z> th0r: i tried ssh and X but was really slow... (i mean insane slow)
[09:44] <morf> hello
[09:44] <proxx_> You can set the compression higher and the encryption lower
[09:44] <ppf> ThePentester: you identified as well?
[09:44] <proxx_> really helps perf
[09:44] <Jakey3> why does this cron job not work http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23250393/
[09:44] <fpghost84> Could someone help with my vpn connection on buntu 16? This http://superuser.com/questions/1129402/vpn-issues-with-ubuntu-16-04 has a full briefing of my configs and log outputs, but basically the openvpn connects seemingly successfully, but all requests,pings etc just timeout
[09:45] <ThePentester> ppf yes
[09:45] <ThePentester> any help ?
[09:45] <morf> silly question: how can i change memcached startup script (i need to create /var/run/memcached/ directory) ... i have tried to edit /etc/init.d/memcached but it hasn't have any effect... didn't find the right thing to edit i guess, any advice pls? :)
[09:46] <z8z> fpghost84: depends on what is your goal i might have a easier solution
[09:46] <z8z> s/a/an
[09:46] <ThePentester> ppf ?
[09:46] <fpghost84> z8z: what do you suggest?
[09:46] <z8z> fpghost84: what do you have to do? :D
[09:47] <fpghost84> z8z: I need to connect to my vpn and access the internet
[09:47] <ppf> yeah no idea. if you identified with nickserv you should be able to talk in #debian
[09:47] <z8z> fpghost84: use the vpn just as a proxy?
[09:47] <ThePentester> ppf any help with this problem ?
[09:47] <fpghost84> z8z: unfortunately that won't work for me
[09:47] <ppf> on the other hand i don't know whether this ircing as root user is a thing
[09:47] <morf> /5/5
[09:48] <ppf> ThePentester: if it's a debian problem, ask over there
[09:48] <Skyrider> There we go
[09:48] <ThePentester> when i create users with other names i can't login display doesn't work
[09:48] <fpghost84> this was working just fine on ubuntu 14, and after upgrade to 16 stopped
[09:48] <ppf> "display doesn't work"?
[09:48] <fpghost84> I need it for work, so it's a real issue
[09:48] <Ben64> Jakey3: surely there's a better way to do whatever it is you're trying to do there
[09:48] <ThePentester> yeah i type username the password and then it's back and keep asking
[09:49] <ThePentester> *and
[09:49] <Jakey3> Ben64, ok but in this case why is my cron job not working
[09:49] <Ben64> it is working
[09:49] <Jakey3> not for me
[09:49] <z8z> fpghost84: use as a proxy? can you reply to my qyestions? :D
[09:49] <Jakey3> my screen doesnt turn off
[09:50] <fpghost84> z8z: I did, I said proxy won't work for me
[09:50] <ppf> Jakey3: who's crontab is that in?
[09:50] <k1l> ThePentester: as already explained: we cant focus on different distributions. ask the #debian ops why you are muted /banned there. or try ##linux
[09:50] <Pointblank_1> Hi and good day to all of you. Which syntax would you use to replace a line in one file (identified by some string, or may be by line number) by some line from another file? Example: file1.txt contains 2 rows: 1. Temperature is: 2. 35 °C  #change_me,  file2.txt contains 3 rows: 1. Current data 2. Temperature is: 3. 36 °C  #change_me. Glad for any input if you know. :)
[09:50] <Ben64> Jakey3: it's set to only run the script at 10:18am
[09:50] <fpghost84> z8z: I need this for work, and must have a VPN connection
[09:50] <Jakey3> Ben64, yes i tested at 10.18 nothing happended
[09:50] <z8z> fpghost84: i mean you need to use this vps as a proxy? to use different IP on the internet?
[09:50] <Ben64> then the script is bad
[09:50] <fpghost84> z8z: It all worked fine on ubuntu 14, so it must be something simple
[09:51] <ppf> *whose
[09:51] <Ben64> Jakey3: really, what you're doing doesn't make sense. why turn the screen off at 10:18am
[09:51] <Jakey3> ppf, what do youmean
[09:51] <Ben64> just set the screen to turn off after x minutes
[09:51] <ppf> Jakey3: who is running this script
[09:51] <ppf> userwise
[09:51] <Jakey3> i was testing this morning at 10.18
[09:51] <fpghost84> z8z: no, I want VPN. For my private airvpn VPN I want vpn for enhanced security that proxy doesn't offer, and for work I need VPN to access the internal network
[09:51] <Jakey3> it was an example
[09:51] <Jakey3> but my screen didnt switch off
[09:52] <Ben64> Jakey3: just set the screen to turn off after x minutes
[09:52] <ppf> Jakey3: essentially, xset needs to know the X it is talking to
[09:52] <Jakey3> ok so how do i set who it talks to
[09:53] <ppf> Ben64: why try to convince him that his problem is wrong instead of solving it?
[09:53] <ppf> Jakey3: -display
[09:53] <Ben64> ppf: because it is wrong
[09:53] <ppf> Ben64: how do you know?
[09:53] <Jakey3> ppf,  do you mind being explicit how do i add -display to my script
[09:53] <ppf> Jakey3: it's usually something like -display :0
[09:53] <Jakey3> ok
[09:53] <Ben64> it doesn't make any sense to randomly turn the screen off at a certain time/times regardless of use
[09:54] <Jakey3> it goes that the begining of the shell script
[09:54] <ppf> if it is at a given time, it kinda explicitely isn't random
[09:54] <ppf> Jakey3: no, it's an xset argument: xset -display :0 ...
[09:54] <z8z> fpghost84: i don't clearly understand what you need then.. if configure the vps server at work or just connect to the work vpn
[09:54] <z8z> s/vps/vpn
[09:55] <fpghost84> z8z: I'm not sure what bit you're not understanding. I connect to the vpn, yet the requests to websites etc fail and timeout. I need some help figuring out why
[09:55] <Jakey3> ppf,  what is weird is if i run it with my user with 'display ...' it works
[09:56] <ppf> Jakey3: in a live session, X is identified via the DISPLAY environment variable
[09:56] <Jakey3> ppf, ah ok thanks
[09:56] <ppf> fpghost84: your routing table looks suspicous
[09:56] <fpghost84> ppf: how so?
[09:57] <ppf> i'm assuming 10.4.0.1 is your work gateway?
[09:57] <z8z> fpghost84: ok then... you are just connecting as a client.... then i'm not sure about how to help you with this issue
[09:57] <ppf> all your routes go through your work vpn
[09:58] <ppf> is that intentional?
[09:58] <fpghost84> ppf: so this is all for an AirVPN which also fails
[09:58] <fpghost84> I basically just used the ovpn file AirVPN generates
[09:58] <ppf> can you ping anything on the vpn network
[09:59] <fpghost84> you mean another address like 10.4.0.1 say?
[09:59] <ppf> yes
[09:59] <fpghost84> I'd have to connect to VPN and try, but it will kill my internet and IRC
[10:00] <fpghost84> one moment
[10:02] <ppf> fpghost84: maybe also try multiple machines
[10:02] <ppf> in case the don't do icmp
[10:03] <Jakey3> ppf, can my script screen.sh reside in my home folder
[10:03] <Jakey3> ?
[10:04] <ppf> Jakey3: sure
[10:04] <fpghost84> ppf: no I couldn't
[10:04] <ppf> any machine? or just the one?
[10:04] <Jakey3> so i have the cron job set to 6 11 * * * /home/c1/screen.sh
[10:05] <fpghost84> ppf: I just tried 10.4.0.1 I don't know if that's a valid machine though, I mean this is airvpn
[10:05] <fpghost84> I don't know anthing about their network
[10:05] <Jakey3> ppf, doesnt seem to work
[10:05] <Ben64> Jakey3: set it to * * * * *
[10:05] <ppf> Jakey3: no don't do that
[10:05] <Jakey3> lol im not reatard
[10:06] <Jakey3> *restard
[10:06] <Ben64> yes do do that, then you can test it every minute instead of keep editing and waiting
[10:06] <Jakey3> but i cant type :D
[10:07] <ppf> i need to go grab some food
[10:07] <Sevet> jakey3: it might run with a different environment, eg a different PATH, that makes the script fail when it works ok at your prompt
[10:08] <Sevet> jakey3: if there're errors running it you'll get an email (which might be in your mailbox file, you can avoid that by setting MAILTO in the crontab). you could also check syslog to verify cron is running it.
[10:08] <Jakey3> Sevet, ok thanks
[10:12] <Aizen> Hello
[10:12] <Aizen> can any1 help me with SSO ?
[10:12] <Azrael84> ppf: fpghost here
[10:12] <Aizen> i have went through multiple links
[10:12] <Azrael84> ppf: weird i changed use lzo compression and it all works!
[10:12] <Azrael84> ppf: I don't understand this at all
[10:12] <Aizen> but could not get relevant answer
[10:12] <Aizen> can some body help me ?
[10:13] <Ben64> !details | Aizen
[10:13] <stevenm> hey is it normal on the new 16.04 - for Ctrl+Alt+F1 to have stopped working?
[10:14] <Aizen> I am using UBuntu 14.04 as my server.. where we are trying to configure ldap using sso for our web application
[10:15] <Aizen> i have installed ldap successfully on ubuntu
[10:15] <Aizen> but sso .. i am not understanding how to install it
[10:15] <Aizen> should it be configured using any 3rd party tool or should be directly installed as that of LDAP
[10:16] <Aizen> And also our web apllication is deployed using tomcat8
[10:16] <Aizen> application*
[10:18] <Gourlay> I have a second screen Samsung TV and I connect i to HDMI, how do I change sceen LCD brightness on it?
[10:19] <Aizen> Any1 der?
[10:19] <shadyz> Yea
[10:19] <bazhang> patience Aizen
[10:19] <Aizen> sorry i thought my screen lagged ? so,
[10:19] <upgradingto1604> hello there. I'm trying to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04. I'm in the middle of the upgrade, but it is getting stuck; the "terminal" in the upgrade window just shows a "[More]" writing (and I can't resize that window to show what's going on). I guess dpkg-reconfigure is asking me some question that I can't see. is there some workaround to make it proceed?
[10:20] <proxx_> Gourlay , on the tv itself ? , in case of nvidia or ati you can do that from the control center
[10:20] <Guest71576> hi
[10:20] <anup> hi
[10:20] <Gourlay> I have an Nvidia card, and have computer to TV with HDMI
[10:21] <Gourlay> will try Nvidia card, does this work, by the way: http://askubuntu.com/questions/149054/how-to-change-lcd-brightness-from-command-line-or-via-script?
[10:23] <Guest97327> oye teri
[10:25] <shadyz> Most of the things can be reconfigured in the command line...like cpu..to gpu
[10:25] <jeno> how would i get a shell script to start on boot?
[10:28] <shadyz> Which programming language is it writting in
[10:31] <Azrael84> ppf: On my work vpn, strange things are happening. I can ssh and ping the IP of a node on the network, but if I use the hostname (in the browser or ping) it timesout
[10:32] <Azrael84> ppf: this is despite the fact that dig <hostname> returns the correct IP
[10:34] <Jakey3> tested my crons they work for another test script for this one https://paste.ubuntu.com/23250585/ no joy
[10:35] <Guest_5190> sdfsadf
[10:35] <shadyz> Well seem most of us having unata
[10:36] <shadyz> #ustable network
[10:37] <Ben64> Jakey3: does the script work if you run it from ssh login
[10:37] <Jakey3> Ben64, didnt try why would it make a difference?
[10:38] <John[Lisbeth]> Does ubuntu come with the dc command line utility?
[10:38] <Ben64> Jakey3: yep
[10:39] <shadyz> What difference does it make
[10:40] <fpghost84> I'm having a strange issue now on VPN. I can ping/ssh/browse to an IP on the network, but trying to do the same with the hostname fails. This suggests DNS issue, but nslookup and dig of hostname works
[10:41] <shadyz> Fpghost84: try reconfiguring the Dns again
[10:41] <usuario> z
[10:42] <fpghost84> shadyz: I purged resolvconf and reinstalled
[10:42] <fpghost84> rebooted
[10:42] <fpghost84> no luck
[10:42] <fpghost84> not sure if that's what you mean...
[10:43] <Seveas> fpghost84: perl -E 'say gethostbyname "yourhostnamehere"'
[10:43] <shadyz> Only if u are in charge or use wireshark to locate the problem
[10:43] <shadyz> Naaa rebooting does not change anything
[10:44] <fpghost84> Seveas: that returned blank
[10:44] <Jakey3> thats the error i get from syslog
[10:44] <Jakey3> Sep 29 11:44:01 cc CRON[6102]: (CRON) info (No MTA installed, discarding output)
[10:45] <shadyz> :-|
[10:46] <fpghost84> Seveas: on the vpn the resolv.conf looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/23250622/
[10:47] <fpghost84> where evo.local is the work internal network
[10:49] <Seveas> ah, .local
[10:49] <Seveas> don't name your network .local, it's reserved for avahi/bonjour
[10:50] <Seveas> workaround: remove all traces of avahi/mdns from your computer
[10:51] <Seveas> specifically, nss-mdns. That's the thing that causes gethostbyname to fail while dns works, as it knows it should not do dns queries for .local, only avahi/mdns queries
[10:55] <Kartagis> if anyone remembers my videos fps issue, it was fixed with a clean install of 16.04
[10:56] <shadyz> Is it jus now
[10:58] <proxx_> I used a sledgehammer to kill an ant , its dead though
[11:00] <Jakey3> Ben64, Seveas, ppf the reason was because xserver is run by a different user and im trying to run as root
[11:01] <Jakey3> im not clear how to run that command as the user as i need to do other things with root privlage within the script?
[11:02] <proxx_> Jakey3 well you could use command exceptions for sudo, nopasswd
[11:04] <proxx_> Jakey3 myusername ALL = (root) NOPASSWD: /my/damn/binary/is/here , something like that
[11:04] <Jakey3> thanks
[11:04] <Jakey3> i was thinking of running the specific command as that user
[11:04] <Jakey3> in the script
[11:04] <Jakey3> with su
[11:05] <proxx_> Jakey3 take the most simple , secure and failproof method whatever it is u do
[11:07] <Jakey3> proxx_, ok thanks
[11:07] <ppf> Jakey3: just run the command from that users crontab
[11:08] <Jakey3> ppf, the the script needs to
[11:08] <ppf> also, for fun, you can test if the script actually works by running it in an empty environment
[11:08] <Jakey3> ppf, the the script needs to be run as root
[11:08] <ppf> then run the user command with sudo -u
[11:09] <Jakey3> got it working thanks
[11:10] <proxx_> Jakey3 :)
[11:11] <codepython7771> does someone know of a linux vm i can run that boots up in less than a second?
[11:11] <PCdude> hello all
[11:11] <PCdude> I am trying to connect postfix on a ubuntu 16.04 box to Amazon AWS SES service (SMTP relay)
[11:11] <PCdude> The problem I get is:
[11:11] <proxx_> Yes , TTYlinux @codepython777
[11:11] <proxx_> codepython777 or tinycore/microcore
[11:11] <PCdude> Message rejected: E-mail address is not verified
[11:11] <sakimi> hi
[11:11] <PCdude> and that makes sense, coz it is trying to send it as noreply@mydomain.com , but that address is not connected to amzon aws
[11:11] <PCdude> I want to connect it to xxx@mydomain.com and I think it will work
[11:11] <PCdude> where can I set the MAIL FROM that postfix will use
[11:11] <PCdude> ??
[11:12] <PCdude> I tried /etc/postfix/generic with noreply@mydomain.com xxx@mydomain.com , but did not work at all
[11:12] <codepython7771> proxx_: will any of them compile gcc/python?
[11:12] <sorin-mihai> at some point i tried tu use cuda, but i gave up on it and now i'm trying to remove it, but i keep getting: Failed to stop var-lib-snapd-lib-gl.mount: Unit var-lib-snapd-lib-gl.mount not loaded. i can't freaking upgrade any packages because apt fails!
[11:12] <sorin-mihai> s/tu/to
[11:12] <proxx_> codepython777 lol you asked fast not complicated :P not sure but what doesnt run python/gcc
[11:12] <Jakey3> in cron what would this mean 15 18 * * 1,2,5
[11:13] <Jakey3> 18.15 on mon tue and friday?
[11:15] <codepython7771> proxx_: seems like microcore / tinycore were last updated in 2008?
[11:15] <codepython7771> ttylinux = 2013
[11:15] <proxx_> codepython777 Damn im old
[11:15] <codepython7771> anything that is well maintained?
[11:15] <proxx_> codepython777 ah so slitaz ?
[11:15] <proxx_> codepython777 or puppylinux
[11:16] <codepython7771> proxx_: http://mirror1.slitaz.org/iso/rolling/ - which one do i download?
[11:16] <ppf> codepython7771: what will you be needing the VM for?
[11:17] <codepython7771> ppf: run python inside vm - sandbox python code
[11:17] <ppf> why not use a container
[11:17] <codepython7771> ppf: shared kernel?
[11:17] <proxx_> codepython7771 I wouldnt know since its been to long ive used any of it , thats from memory in the cat. tiny fast stuff
[11:18] <ppf> do you need a different kernel for the python code?
[11:18] <codepython7771> ppf: no - security is an issue with shared kernels
[11:19] <ppf> containers give you namespace isolation
[11:20] <proxx_> I would agree that a container or jail would be suitable but depends much on what kinda stuff you r doing
[11:20] <ppf> so all resources are protected between host and containers
[11:20] <proxx_> if it is some future production stuff I would personally rather use a full machine but whatever
[11:22] <ppf> VMs make sense if you need to run different kernels or emulate different hardware. anything beyond that can be done much more lightweight with containers and chroots
[11:31] <proxx_> @ppf I agree
[11:39] <Jakey3> how can i improve this script https://paste.ubuntu.com/23250754/
[11:40] <Jakey3> i want to turn off the screen and then shut down
[11:40] <Jakey3> to turn off the screen i switch to another user
[11:40] <Jakey3> for shutdown i must be root
[11:40] <ppf> Jakey3: now that makes little sense. why turn off the screen and then shut down?
[11:40] <ppf> just shut down
[11:41] <Jakey3> ppf, true
[11:41] <Jakey3> how would i do it any how
[11:41] <Jakey3> i believe because i switch user
[11:42] <Jakey3> im no longer root so i will not shutdown ?
[11:42] <Ben64> put it into root's crontab
[11:42] <Jakey3> it is
[11:42] <Jakey3> the screen turnsoff but doesnt shut down
[11:43] <Ben64> probably needs a "now" at the end
[11:43] <k1l> yep, "now" missing
[11:44] <Jakey3> with the "" included?
[11:44] <k1l> no
[11:44] <ppf> doesn't matter
[11:44] <ppf> also, no
[11:45] <punkoivan> "systemctl poweroff" doesn't required sudo/root
[11:46] <vices> on 16.04 a fresh install I've got an issue with wireless continuously disconnecting every couple minutes.  It doesn't happen on the windows boot so it's not the router
[11:46] <mjayk> Anyone know if there is a kde connect system tray icon for ubuntu
[11:46] <ducasse> punkoivan: shutdown is a symlink to systemctl
[11:46] <vices> the surface tablet ubuntu is installed on doesn't have an ethernet connection so I'm a bit nervous about trying to install wireless firmware drivers without some guidance
[11:48] <vices> should I just run: sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree ?
[11:49] <Jakey3> didnt make a difference with now
[11:49] <vices> or sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer ?
[11:49] <ppf> ducasse: not really
[11:49] <usuario> hello?!
[11:50] <ducasse> ppf: ?
[11:50] <usuario> hello?!!!!
[11:50] <ppf> shutdown isn't a symlink to systemctl
[11:50] <ducasse> ppf: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Sep 29 03:40 /sbin/shutdown -> /bin/systemctl
[11:50] <usuario> I NEED HELP!
[11:50] <gebruiker> is the flashpluing-nonfree compatible with firefox?
[11:50] <ppf> ducasse: yeah, my bad
[11:50] <ppf> wrong system :D
[11:50] <proxx_> yes
[11:51] <\9> usuario: ask, then. and drop the caps
[11:51] <k1l> usuario: ask a question, dont use caps
[11:51] <gebruiker> and if so how uptodate is it?
[11:51] <\9> usuario: yelling is rude
[11:51] <gebruiker> usuario, do not use caps
[11:51] <vices> "lspci -n | grep 0280" doesn't return anything.. what should it be giving?
[11:51] <ppf> ducasse: but that's a hack, isn't it? systemctl checks argv[0] to emulate the old shutdown command?
[11:51] <usuario> The numbers, 4 8 15 16 23 42
[11:52] <usuario> You have to write the numbers into the terminal when the countdown its at 4 minutes
[11:52] <ppf> usuario: we don't do peoples homeworks
[11:52] <ducasse> ppf: it just calls systemctl poweroff, i think, if argv[0] is shutdown.
[11:52] <mjayk> usuario: what problem do you have with ubuntu that  you need help with
[11:52] <k1l> usuario: ? this is the ubuntu support channel
[11:54] <captainACE> hello world!
[11:54] <captainACE> how many desktop environments are there in ubuntu?(except mate)
[11:54] <crypto0> hello , how can i read this 71 a4 13 67 65 6f 3a 34 30 2e 36 39 34 34 2c 37 33 2e 39 38 36 36 00 ec 11 ec 11 ec 11 ec 11 ec 11 ec
[11:55] <k1l> captainACE: "a lot". what do you need?
[11:55] <captainACE> crypt0 its hexadecimal i think
[11:55] <usuario> dude, I need a constant, what year is it?
[11:55] <captainACE> k1l i dunno just feel like changing environments
[11:55] <blut> whatever happend to the /etc/cups/client.conf? Why is it deprecated, and what to use instead?
[11:55] <usuario> i need to know it quickly or it will succed agaon
[11:55] <captainACE> need something fresh
[11:55] <usuario> where is walt
[11:56] <k1l> captainACE: unity, gnome-shell, kde, xfce, lxde, tiling WMs...... the list is very long.
[11:56] <Ben64> usuario: you aren't making any sense
[11:56] <captainACE> any personal favourites?
[11:56] <crypto0> captainACE can you read it for me?
[11:56] <captainACE> crytp0 you can use hexadecimal translators online
[11:57] <k1l> captainACE: just test them what suits you best.
[11:57] <ppf> crypto0: it's not text
[11:57] <ppf> captainACE: our personal flavours won't help you pick one
[11:57] <gebruiker> usuario, the numbers are secret informaiton into th8th dimension outside of the time and space continium
[11:57] <usuario> 110010010101011100101010111001110010010101011100101010111001110010010101011100101010111001110010010101011100101010111001110010010101011100101010111001
[11:57] <ppf> just google that question, there are literally dozens of articles on DE comparisons
[11:58] <crypto0> i used hexadecimal its didnt worked , does it raw bytes?
[11:58] <ducasse> crypto0: what are you trying to accomplish here?
[11:58] <Ben64> crypto0: it's a location in the mountains in southern kyrgyzstan
[11:58] <k1l> crypto0: if you give more context people could try to help
[11:58] <crypto0> i want to read it
[12:00] <vices> interestingly.. while i'm connected to this IRC server my wireless connection isn't dropping
[12:01] <vices> anyone have any ideas why it usually disconnects every few minutes?
[12:01] <ppf> powersaving?
[12:01] <crypto0> ben64 how did you read it?
[12:01] <usuario_> electromagnetic energy vices
[12:02] <vices> -_-;
[12:02] <Ben64> crypto0: google "hex to ascii" then put the latitude and longitude into google maps
[12:02] <vices> i used some 'wireless info' script but it doesn't seem like there are any obvious errors
[12:02] <vices> anyone familiar with reading them?
[12:03] <ducasse> vices: which chipset is this?
[12:03] <ppf> vices: you can turn powersaving of and see if it disconnects you without the irc server
[12:03] <crypto0> ben64 when i convert it h"hex to acsii" i got : q¤geo:40.6944,73.9866ìììììì
[12:04] <vices> another fun problem the wireless has is that instead of dropping the internet, sometimes it does something cute, it lets me do google queries but not connect to the webpages until I reconnect to the wifi network
[12:04] <vices> ducasse, how would I find out?
[12:04] <Ben64> crypto0: yep exactly
[12:04] <vices> ppf how do i turn off powersaving? I didn't see anything in the Power GUI
[12:04] <ducasse> vices: lspci
[12:04] <crypto0> ben64 then google map and what typing on it ?>
[12:04] <k1l> crypto0: i dont think this is an ubuntu issue so better join #ubuntu-offtopic fo that
[12:04] <Ben64> crypto0: 40.6944,73.9866
[12:05] <ppf> sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off
[12:05] <vices> Intel Haswell-ULT ?
[12:06] <ducasse> vices: the line says 'network controller'
[12:08] <vices> sorry had to reconnect, lspci says it's a Haswell ULT ?
[12:09] <avocado123> Hi, I just connected a PS3 controller with bluetooth to Ubuntu, it is connected now (there was a minor weird thing where on my laptop it says I had to enter a PIN code in my device, but you obviously can't do that for a controller). But now I found out the buttons are not mapped the right way (so X is not actually X but has moved to another place), what to do?
[12:10] <avocado123> I am trying to use it with Steam, maybe that's relevant
[12:10] <vices> ppf sorry I didn't see if you answered about where powersaving is'
[12:11] <ppf> sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off
[12:11] <vices> ppf wlan0 no device
[12:11] <ppf> yeah, whatever your wifi device name is
[12:12] <ppf> ULT is an ultrabook; so beware that turning wifi powermanagement off isn't very nice for battery life
[12:12] <vices> wlx281878595327  IEEE 802.11abgn <-- is that wlx the wireless name?
[12:13] <ppf> no, check ifconfig
[12:13] <avocado123> Looking into xboxdrv now, might work
[12:13] <vices> ppf it worked though.. now it says power management off ^^;
[12:13] <akik> vices: yes it could be the interface name
[12:14] <ppf> looks like it :)
[12:14] <vices> do you guys think power management might also be responsible for not being able to connect to webpages?
[12:14] <vices> sometimes i can do google searches but cant connect to any other page
[12:15] <vices> i searched google for that problem and the most recent entries were from 2014 and the solutions there, like changing the MTU to 1492, didn't work
[12:19] <frombrowser> anyone please help I can install any software or can't find anysoftware from ubuntu software center
[12:20] <frombrowser> typing sudo apt-get install chrome-browser and getting unable to locate chrome-browser
[12:21] <k1l> frombrowser: chromium is in the ubuntu repos, not chrome
[12:22] <k1l> !info chromium-browser
[12:22] <frombrowser> thanks k1l now chromium-browser started to install
[12:22] <frombrowser> k1l what is name of vlc in ubuntu?
[12:23] <ChetManly> http://askubuntu.com/questions/655827/how-do-i-configure-a-wireless-samsung-printer
[12:23] <proxx_> ugh vlc
[12:23] <k1l> frombrowser: vlc
[12:23] <ChetManly> proxx_: lmfao
[12:24] <frombrowser> thanks, I will try with this
[12:24] <k1l> frombrowser: you can search the repo with "apt search vlc"
[12:24] <proxx_> vlc is for windowz ppl :P
[12:24] <proxx_> we have mplayer, yes ill shut up
[12:24] <ChetManly> k1l: does that replace apt-cache?
[12:24] <frombrowser> k1l ok..
[12:24] <k1l> ChetManly: yes
[12:25] <ChetManly> other is still recognized?
[12:25] <frombrowser> proxx_  thanks I will try mplayer.
[12:26] <k1l> ChetManly: yes.
[12:26] <vices> hmm.. turning off the power managment didn't solve the issue of randomly being unable to access any website besides google
[12:26] <vices> any other ideas?
[12:27] <proxx_> frombrowser , there is a gui fancy thing for mplayer called smplayer
[12:27] <vices> oh, a semi-related issue, I can't install some OS updates from the ubuntu software GUI, the installing bar just hangs.. how can I do it from terminal?
[12:28] <Ben64> proxx_: mplayer2 and mpv are even better than regular old mplayer
[12:29] <frombrowser> proxx_ so mplayer is command line?
[12:29] <vices> sudo apt-get install updates doesnt get anything, but there are some things listed in the GUI that should be installed
[12:29] <proxx_> frombrowser yes and smplayer is a gui wrapper , and listen to this Ben64 dude, im a fossil
[12:31] <Ben64> proxx_: i mean, they're all better than vlc
[12:32] <proxx_> Ben64 I agree , Personally I have very good experience with mplayerish players , especially when u come from windows its amazing to see how well shit can work
[12:32] <proxx_> !lang proxx_
[12:33] <frombrowser> Ben64 if I type "sudo apt-get install mpalyer2" will it install maplayer or mplayer2?
[12:35] <frombrowser> mpplayer is little bit daunty, first find the file from terminal, then type the command to play that file
[12:35] <Ben64> you could set it up so you double click a video and it opens
[12:36] <frombrowser> Ben64 How can I do that?
[12:37] <frombrowser> O
[12:37] <frombrowser> I'm more of window user.
[12:37] <crypto0> how can i decrypt mp4 file?
[12:37] <Ben64> heh, idk. i pretty much never use gui, except for web browsing
[12:37] <Ben64> crypto0: doesn't make sense
[12:38] <crypto0> ben64 can i pm you?
[12:38] <frombrowser> Ben64, haha ok, thanks... I'll try to search on google
[12:38] <ppf> crypto0: is  this a hacking riddle game? this is somewhat the wrong forum for this kind of questions
[12:38] <Ben64> just ask in the channel if it's ubuntu support related, #ubuntu-offtopic if not
[12:38] <ppf> also, you should find the answers yourself ;)
[12:38] <proxx_> frombrowser http://smplayer.sourceforge.net/en/screenshots , this is what the gui for mplayer looks like
[12:38] <crypto0> ppf nope , im practice
[12:38] <proxx_> frombrowser apt-get install smplayer
[12:38] <Ben64> why anyone needs a gui for a video player i'll never know
[12:38] <akik> proxx_: vlc is supported under linux all right
[12:39] <ppf> akik: of course
[12:39] <proxx_> yes it is and it sucks
[12:39] <proxx_> winndooowwzz bloatware
[12:39] <frombrowser> proxx_: it looks pretty good.
[12:39] <akik> proxx_: that's just your personal opinion
[12:39] <proxx_> It is , isnt linux in general
[12:39] <Ben64> vlc has worse video quality
[12:40] <proxx_> bbl have fun ppl
[12:40] <frombrowser> Ben64: yes sometime I also seen, videos play better in other players
[12:44] <crypto0> http://prod_atl_dc3_r49_u23.rogueterminal.com/static/js/utils.js can someone explain me this
[12:45] <Pici> crypto0: looks like javascript. You'd be better off asking in ##javascript than in #ubuntu
[12:45] <Ben64> crypto0: you're in the wrong channel for all your questions
[12:45] <crypto0> oh sry
[12:45] <frombrowser> proxx_: there is smplaer and Enqueue in smplayer which one I chosse?
[12:46] <Ben64> frombrowser: enqueue = add to playlist
[12:47] <frombrowser> Ben64 got it thanks
[12:50] <Ladillero> _=[ Hello, it's my first time using Lubuntu ]=_
[12:50] <Ladillero> _=[ Can anyone help me install a usb network driver ? ]=_
[12:51] <Ladillero> _=[ I already have the .tar.bz2 ]=_
[12:51] <EriC^^> which driver?
[12:52] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ LinuxDriver4Fedora ]=_
[12:53] <k1l> Ladillero: usb network? can you show the output of "lsusb | nc termbin.com 9999" in your terminal?
[12:53] <Ladillero> _=[ k1l I'm sorry, I don't understand ]=_
[12:54] <EriC^^> Ladillero: open a terminal and type lsusb | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:54] <k1l> Ladillero: ah ok, you are not using that ubuntu at the moment
[12:54] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ Ok. I'm using Lubuntu. ]=_
[12:54] <EriC^^> it'll give you a link, paste it here
[12:55] <atralheaven> sorry, do you guys know any channel for hosting/domain registering issues?
[12:55] <thiras> atralheaven, maybe #web ?
[12:56] <atralheaven> thiras: that should work! thanks :)
[12:56] <thiras> np
[12:56] <Ladillero> _=[ Ok EriC^^ thanks ]=_
[12:57] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ , k1l this is the driver RT2870 Wireless Lan Linux Driver ]=_
[12:58] <k1l> Ladillero: usually you dont install drivers that way on linux. so we want to see some facts to not install random stuff to your system.
[12:58] <k1l> Ladillero: so please run my command in termina, it will give out a url, please show that url here
[12:59] <Ladillero> _=[ k1l ok, I'm using windows here but on the other computer is the one I'm trying to install the driver. I will do as you say. ]=_
[12:59] <Pici> Ladillero: do you have any internet access on the computer with the problem?
[12:59] <Ladillero> _=[ Pici no, I don't. ]=_
[13:00] <k1l> Ladillero: ok, if that machine doesnt have internet connection that command will not work
[13:00] <Ladillero> _=[ k1l all I have is the tar.bz2 file I downloaded from the manufacturer. ]=_
[13:01] <ppf> Ladillero: i need to ask: what client are you using? or are you manually wrapping all your lines in decorative braces?
[13:01] <afidegnum> [{u'sector': u'693393', u'description': u'<p>New Constructions</p>\r\n', u'_key': u'999167', u'_rev': u'999167', u'_id': u'projects/999167', u'type': u'994055', u'name': u'New Constructions'}]
[13:01] <k1l> Ladillero: again, that is not the usual way to get hardware running. most times you already have the drivers inside the kernel
[13:01] <Ladillero> _=[ k1l I understand. ]=_
[13:01] <Pici> afidegnum: this isn't #python
[13:01] <k1l> Ladillero: so this is the RT2870 wifi chip?
[13:02] <Ladillero> _=[ k1l Yes. http://www.pandawireless.com/Drivers%20%7C%20Panda%20Wireless.html ]=_
[13:02] <EriC^^> Ladillero: did you try to see if a conflicting driver is being loaded?
[13:02] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ I apologize but I don't know anything. I'm a beginner. ]=_
[13:03] <EriC^^> Ladillero: ok, try sudo rmmod rt2800usb
[13:03] <captainACE> how do i install wallpapers from other DE's into mate is there a way to locate them in file system? im trying to install wallpapers from budgie
[13:03] <afidegnum> Pici: sorry.
[13:03] <k1l> Ladillero: afaik, that chip should run out of the box on ubuntu 16.04
[13:04] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ I just tried that on the terminal nad it looks like it's loading. ]=_
[13:04] <Ladillero> _=[ k1l I installed Lubuntu instead of Ubuntu because I read it was faster and lighter since the desktop it's super old. ]=_
[13:05] <EriC^^> Ladillero: what's loading?
[13:05] <frombrowser> proxx_: how can I get full screen on mplayer, whenever I open video, it doesn't stretch to my screen
[13:05] <k1l> Ladillero: lubuntu and ubuntu share the same codebase. so it should be included in lubuntu 16.04 too
[13:06] <Ladillero> _=[ k1l Should I install Lubuntu 16.04 ? ]=_
[13:06] <ronaldsmazitis> I can't open Nautilus
[13:06] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ I had to restart, the computer wasn't responding after I typed the password. ]=_
[13:06] <ronaldsmazitis> http://apaste.info/maZ
[13:06] <ronaldsmazitis> getting these errors
[13:07] <EriC^^> Ladillero: ok, unplug the device, then try it again
[13:07] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ Ok. Trying that now. ]=_
[13:08] <EriC^^> try also sudo rmmod rt2x00usb and sudo rmmod rt2x00lib
[13:10] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ ERROR: Module rt2x00lib is in use by: rt2800lib ]=_
[13:10] <EriC^^> Ladillero: try sudo modprobe -r rt2x00lib
[13:11] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ FATAL: Module rt2x00lib is in use. ]=_
[13:13] <EriC^^> Ladillero: sudo modprobe -r rt2800lib ?
[13:13] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ Ok I just tried thato one and it worked ]=_
[13:13] <crypto0> what does this mean 727 wew wwelncpa wcvb lihgqevw wq wigligs wew vevvenqwpv.
[13:14] <EriC^^> Ladillero: ok try to plug in the usb
[13:14] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ I just plugged it in. ]=_
[13:14] <Pici> crypto0: again, that has nothing to do with #ubuntu
[13:14] <EriC^^> Ladillero: try lsmod | grep rt
[13:15] <EriC^^> Ladillero: does it say rt2870sta and maybe other rt2800 stuff?
[13:15] <mcphail> crypto0: you have already been asked to stay on topic. Please do not keep spamming the channel with offtopic chat
[13:15] <ppf> Pici: best ignore him?
[13:15] <ppf> or someone throw him out
[13:15] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ Yes it did. ]=_
[13:15] <Pici> ppf: I will be doing that after this last warning :)
[13:15] <ppf> :)
[13:16] <Pici> or k1l will take care of it
[13:16] <EriC^^> Ladillero: is the rt2800usb still in that list?
[13:16] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ Yes it is. ]=_
[13:16] <EriC^^> aha
[13:17] <EriC^^> Ladillero: try to unplug the usb again
[13:17] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ I just did. ]=_
[13:18] <EriC^^> Ladillero: try sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[13:18] <Smn> guys, I'm suffering from a minor annoyance. I have playonlinux tied to my dock, but when I launch it it creates another icon instead of using the fixed one that's already there. what's more, the new one uses the default and ignores my icon theme(regardless of what icon theme I might be using)
[13:18] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ done. it worked. ]=_
[13:19] <EriC^^> Ladillero: it will open a text editor, type at a line "blacklist rt2800usb"
[13:20] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ Type on top of that text editor or a new terminal ? ]=_
[13:20] <EriC^^> Ladillero: and on another line "blacklist rt2x00lib" and "blacklist rt2x00usb"
[13:20] <EriC^^> Ladillero: in that text editor, put them at the top on new lines
[13:22] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ Ok I just finished. ]=_
[13:23] <EriC^^> Ladillero: ok, press ctrl+o to save it
[13:23] <EriC^^> then ctrl+x to exit, then try rebooting the pc
[13:23] <EriC^^> Ladillero: it should only load the rt2870sta driver now without the other rt2800usb that make a conflict together
[13:24] <aus_mal> Hi, I was trying to select the home folder in Unetbootin and with a slip of the finger moved it to another folder! I didn't manage to fix it before a restart, so here I am unable to login. Hope someone can help. Thanks.
[13:24] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ Ok. Should I plug it in while it's restarting ? ]=_
[13:24] <EriC^^> Ladillero: yeah
[13:25] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ Ok... I just restarted the computer but I don't see the network icon or anything new. ]=_
[13:26] <EriC^^> Ladillero: try lsmod | grep rt
[13:26] <ChetManly> EriC^^: can you help me file a bug report
[13:26] <lotuscomputers> !bug | ChetManly
[13:26] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ Ok, done. ]=_
[13:26] <EriC^^> Ladillero: also in a terminal try "iwlist scan"
[13:27] <EriC^^> Ladillero: does the rt2870sta driver show up without the rt2800usb?
[13:27] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ ok. no scan results. lo and eth0 interface doesn't support scanning. ]=_
[13:28] <ChetManly> brb
[13:29] <EriC^^> Ladillero: aha, what about lsmod | grep rt ?
[13:30] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ it shows the rtx2800usb - 0 ]=_
[13:30] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ it shows the rt2x00usb ...... 1 rt2800usb ]=_
[13:30] <EriC^^> Ladillero: damn
[13:31] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ Should I try installing the 16.04 Lubuntu ? ]=_
[13:31] <EriC^^> does sudo modprobe -r rt2800usb work?
[13:31] <EriC^^> Ladillero: it's not necessary, 16.04 is faster and newer than 14.04 though
[13:32] <EriC^^> i'd definitely recommend it
[13:32] <blut> EriC^^: How is it faster?
[13:32] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ no, it doesn't work. the computer stops working. I have to restart. ]=_
[13:32] <EriC^^> blut: systemd for one.. newer kernel
[13:32] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:32] <EriC^^> it does feel faster (try both in a vm and you can tell immediately, as is 14.04 faster than 12.04)
[13:33] <EriC^^> Ladillero: aha
[13:33] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ Ok thanks a lot for your help. I will install 16.04. ]=_
[13:33] <blut> EriC^^: That is like responding to a questing about time with a unit of length
[13:33] <EriC^^> Ladillero: ok, no problem :)
[13:33] <EriC^^> blut: hehe, ok
[13:34]  * EriC^^ wonders what you're talking about..
[13:34] <vices> i'd like to turn off the n-mode for my wireless, anyone know offhand how to do that?
[13:34] <vices> modprobe -r iwlwifi && modprobe iwlwifi 11n_disable=1 <-- I don't have the iwlwifi module apparently
[13:34] <EriC^^> blut: put both in a vm you'll see which one is faster, anyways 16.04 feels faster to me, and 14.04 on the same pc was faster than 12.04 on it.. many do agree as well
[13:35] <captainACE> how do i delete all the panels in mate ubuntu since i am using a dock?
[13:35] <vices> it's so strange that xchat is working but firefox can't connect to any sites..
[13:35] <lotuscomputers> !xchat | vices
[13:36] <maddawg> no he didnt... he fucked his friend's mom
[13:36] <maddawg> ooops
[13:36] <maddawg> wrong channel
[13:36] <maddawg> OMG dont ban me
[13:36] <blut> !upstart
[13:36] <vices> lotuscomputers, okay well.. thanks for the tip, once my wireless stops dropping connection every few minutes i'll get right on that
[13:36] <blut> Was upstart only replaced by systemd in the 16.04 version?
[13:37] <maddawg> 15 and later me thought
[13:37] <EriC^^> blut: no, it came in 15.04
[13:37] <EriC^^> 14.04 is upstart though
[13:37] <blut> LTS
[13:38] <lotuscomputers> vices: wich ubuntu version is that
[13:38] <vices> lotuscomputers, 16.04
[13:39] <lotuscomputers> vices: up to dat to latest?
[13:39] <lotuscomputers> vices: aka 16.04.1?
[13:40] <vices> lotuscomputers, seems like there's something that needs to upgrade
[13:40] <motor> uyjkl
[13:41] <lotuscomputers> vices: make sure version with lsb_release -a
[13:41] <vices> lotuscomputers,  yeah 16.04.01
[13:41] <lotuscomputers> great
[13:42] <lotuscomputers> vices: does tail -f /var/log/syslog spit any wifi dropping errors?
[13:43] <vices> lotuscomputers, jayme-Surface-Pro-2 NetworkManager[825]: <error> [1475156609.9012] platform-linux: sysctl: failed to set '/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/wlx281878595327/mtu' to '1500': (22) Invalid argument
[13:45] <vices> lotuscomputers,  jayme-Surface-Pro-2 whoopsie[771]: [22:44:42] offline
[13:45] <vices>  <--??
[13:49] <vices> the failing to set to 1500 error pops up often
[13:51] <anchnk> hi any advices about optimizing a SSD drive for a developper workstation ? I do have a 256GB SSD and 1TG Hard Drive and I am wondering if i should mount some folder on the HDD rather than the SSD (everything can be hold on the SSD in terms of space) ? I am also wondering if there would be an up to date guide to optimize SSD drive with ubuntu 16.04 LTS ?
[13:52] <tomodachi> anchnk: this depends on your way of working ofc
[13:52] <tomodachi> anchnk: keep opertingsystem and applications on SSD and large streaming only media on the other drive
[13:52] <ChetManly> !bugs
[13:53] <vices> lotuscomputers, unfortunately the exact moment when my internet browsers can no longer connect to the web isn't linked to any error in the log
[13:53] <vices> lotuscomputers, this irc network isn't disconnected however..
[13:53] <anchnk> tomodachi I mainly use eclipse/maven/jonas build chain all installed in /opt for javaEE developement and ST3 within node/npm etc for some middleware microservices
[13:53] <anchnk> what do you mean by large streaming only media on the other drive ? any example ?
[13:54] <anchnk> should my sources be on the SSD for instance ? I work on large applications with thousand of files
[13:54] <vices> ahh wait..
[13:54] <vices> there was one strange message that popped up just before the internet came back..
[13:54] <vices> jayme-Surface-Pro-2 AptDaemon: INFO: Quitting due to inactivity
[13:56] <tboiko> a
[13:57] <ChetManly> why on earth do I always seem to be accessing the sites that are doing maintenance or are slow as hell
[13:57] <ChetManly> whats going on with launchpad?
[14:02] <tboiko> !pizda Jay Kristoff - [Nevernight 01] - Nevernight (epub).epub  ::INFO:: 3.1MB
[14:02] <tomodachi> anchnk: like a true developer you know the saying "premature optimization" :)
[14:02] <tomodachi> building your project shouldnt be taking that long no matter what setup you have
[14:02] <tomodachi> if so you can make sure to keep those project files on the ssd while you work on them
[14:03] <ppf> "premature optimization" is the most abused quote in programming history
[14:04] <anchnk> tomodachi that makes sense
[14:05] <ppf> ever built a tex file from a spinning disk? its horrible.
[14:05] <tomodachi> ppf: isnt that the DRY principle?
[14:06] <ppf> to not say the quote?
[14:06] <ppf> anchnk: general rule: keep any kind of hot data on the ssd, anything else someplace else.
[14:07] <ppf> no matter what you're working with or on
[14:08] <BluesKaj> and this relates ubuntu support, how?
[14:09] <anchnk> BluesKaj i admit it's a bit off-topic sorry for dat
[14:10] <BluesKaj> anyway I've created text files with my old HDDs without any trouble
[14:12] <ppf> floppy disks worked perfectly well, too
[14:12] <vices> how can i see my wifi card model?
[14:13] <ppf> vices: lspci
[14:13] <vices> ppf, is 'communication controller' the card?
[14:14] <ppf> possibly
[14:18] <vices> should i try to blacklist the driver used by the communication controller?
[14:18] <vices> will it automatically get a new driver?
[14:21] <fk_007> I've installed xUbuntu 16.04.1 on a 64 gb sandisk flash drive. It's been about 2 weeks since installation and it is pretty stable but has booted into busy box a few times. The file system seemed to have been corrupted. It is back to being stable since it fixed itself on one of the boot-ups but I believe the problem comes from the shutdown not syncing to the flash drive or something of that nature. Just curious if this is a known issue with Ubuntu installe
[14:21] <fk_007> d on a flash drive (not live, persistent)
[14:24] <vices> alright bed time..
[14:25] <vices> goodnight~!
[14:26] <ag2019> Hello. I need some help installing ubuntu 16
[14:27] <BluesKaj> fk_007, make the install persistent ot install on a sata device
[14:27] <leo-ren> some one speak spanish?
[14:27] <BluesKaj> !es
[14:27] <lotuscomputers> !ask | ag2019
[14:28] <fk_007> BluesKaj it is persistent, it's not live
[14:29] <ag2019> I tried using a live CD that i burned and it keeps failing in the installation process
[14:30] <fk_007> i ran the installation of ubuntu and installed it to the 64 gb flash drive
[14:31] <negev> hi, is there a replacement for /lib/systemd/systemd-udevd not written by lennart poettering?
[14:31] <BluesKaj> fk_007, does it boot off the flash drive ?
[14:31] <ppf> negev: not a fan of lennart? :)
[14:31] <ag2019> i tried the flash and nothing at all.
[14:32] <Southern_Gentlem> !docs
[14:32] <fk_007> BluesKaj, yes it does, for the most part. I just had a run the other day with it booting into busybox and having issues, i believe because it was not shutting down correctly
[14:32] <fk_007> its what i'm using right now :)
[14:32] <negev> ppf: https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/how_to_crash_systemd_in_one_tweet
[14:32] <negev> i switched to sysvinit but there are still three systemd processes running
[14:33] <BluesKaj> fk_007, then the issue you had is probly unrelated to the drive , but to the OS itself , but if you updated and upagraded since then you should be fine
[14:34] <k1l> negev: thing is, there are a lot of projects that are merged into systemd. so you need a lot of effort to get a systemd free system. and debian and ubuntu moved to systemd.
[14:34] <negev> k1l: totally against the unix philosophy :|
[14:34] <leo-ren> some one know how to dynamically(with mouse click) change the icon of a launcher on gnome panel?
[14:34] <ppf> thank god
[14:35] <leo-ren> *on the own script
[14:35] <k1l> negev: well, make a better init system and spread it. i guess a lot of people will thank you for that.
[14:35] <negev> what's wrong with sysvinit?
[14:35] <ag2019> problem here is that i'm new to linux and ubuntu and had ubuntu erase my current partition and can't get back on.
[14:35] <ppf> negev: it's horrible to use
[14:36] <k1l> negev: look at the debian debate about the new init system. that lists all arguments. this is out of the focus of this channel
[14:47] <ChetManly> EriC^^: hey you around, I need help to file a bug
[14:48] <freelancerbob> anybody help me with ddrescue ? yesterday i run that more than 5 hour but on the output HDD is nothing
[14:48] <EriC^^> ChetManly: what's the problem?
[14:48] <ChetManly> you familiar with kde at all>
[14:48] <Surendil> how do I check for errors on a HDD?
[14:49] <k1l> ChetManly: for kde specifics #kubuntu might be the place to be
[14:49] <k1l> Surendil: unmount the disk and run fsck
[14:49] <freelancerbob> EriC^^:  maybe you can help me with that ddrescue
[14:49] <ChetManly> k1l: good one
[14:50] <Surendil> k1l, just fsck on /dev/sda?
[14:50] <freelancerbob> k1l: you were helping me with corrupted hdd 2 weeks ago
[14:50] <k1l> Surendil: fsck on the partitions. that will look after the filesystems.
[14:51] <k1l> Surendil: if you want the disk look at the smartmontools
[14:51] <k1l> freelancerbob: what is the issue?
[14:52] <k1l> freelancerbob: what did the command you used look like? what were the errors?
[14:52] <ChetManly> EriC^^: use kde at all?
[14:52] <freelancerbob> k1l: yestreday I run ddrescue but there is nothing on output hdd
[14:52] <freelancerbob> k1l: ddrescue -d -f -r3 /dev/sdc /dev/sdb lubo.txt
[14:53] <minsub> j
[14:53] <minsub> j
[14:53] <minsub> j
[14:53] <minsub> k
[14:53] <ChetManly> would kde and unity use the same backend to show gui mounts eg. udisk?
[14:56] <ChetManly> I am trying to get a bug report out for DEVICE MONITOR in kde system tray, it is incorrectly identifying drives leading to data loss, I read the bug page and dont see how to file a bug report against it
[14:56] <Surendil> k1l, works the same with ntfs partition?
[14:56] <k1l> freelancerbob: did you look into lubo.txt?
[14:56] <freelancerbob> k1l: there is not any file
[14:56] <freelancerbob> before i run that command i rofmat output disk
[14:57] <k1l> freelancerbob: so did it do anything at all?
[14:57] <ChetManly> if anyone could help with that even though this is a more gtk oriented channel
[14:57] <freelancerbob> k1l: do you think i need to run i t again ? first format ?
[14:57] <k1l> freelancerbob: dont format. the dd coammdn will wipe everything on the target anyway
[14:59] <freelancerbob> k1l: and why it did not create that file ?
[14:59] <k1l> freelancerbob: i dont know
[14:59] <boxrick1> I am currently creating an automated install for Ubuntu, for both 14 and 16
[15:00] <boxrick1> However the ethernet device changes between the two of these
[15:00] <boxrick1> Is there any way I can just set a generic 'use the first network interface'
[15:00] <boxrick1> For my kernel options, or pre seed?
[15:00] <boxrick1> Rather than having to specify en0 for example
[15:00] <freelancerbob> k1l:  ok i just plug in external HDD and do not see it with file manager, do i have format it first ?
[15:01] <boxrick1> If I remove the hard coded interface it starts asking me which one do I  want to use.
[15:01] <nacc> boxrick1: 'd-i netcfg/choose_interface auto'
[15:01] <k1l> freelancerbob: no. look at dmesg if that disk is seen by the kerne
[15:01] <nacc> boxrick1: presuming you have only one plugged in interface
[15:01] <boxrick1> And if not, it would ask anyway ?
[15:02] <freelancerbob> k1l: how ti find it ?
[15:02] <freelancerbob> k1l:  [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
[15:02] <k1l> freelancerbob: so, there it is
[15:02] <nacc> boxrick1: you mean you have multiple interfaces with link?
[15:03] <nacc> boxrick1: uh, in that case, i think it becomes unpredictable which one might get chosen
[15:03] <nacc> boxrick1: not 100% sure, though
[15:03] <boxrick1> Ok, thats fine
[15:03] <freelancerbob> k1l:  yes i plugin good HDD and do not see it
[15:03] <boxrick1> Cheers for that though :)
[15:03] <ChetManly> I am trying to get a bug report out for DEVICE VIEWER in kde system tray, it is incorrectly identifying drives leading to data loss, I read the bug page and dont see how to file a bug report against it*****
[15:03] <nacc> !bug | ChetManly
[15:04] <k1l> freelancerbob: again: i dont know what you did to your systems. but if you plugin your disk to the pc and in dmesg at the end you see a "sdb attached" then your disk is seen"
[15:04] <boxrick1> How does the above command vary to the following command 'd-i netcfg/choose_interface select auto' ?
[15:04] <ChetManly> nacc: freezes
[15:04] <boxrick1> Does the select make a difference
[15:04] <k1l> freelancerbob: what you mean with seeing it in your desktop browser its about partitions. but that is a totally different thing
[15:04] <nacc> boxrick1: *err, you're right, should be 'select auto'
[15:05] <freelancerbob> k1l: ok what i should do now ?
[15:05] <boxrick1> Interestingly, I had a prompt with that command which is telling me the first interface has been selected but it isn't confirmed it
[15:05] <boxrick1> So that has stalled the install
[15:05] <nacc> boxrick1: oh it might need one more preseed
[15:05] <nacc> boxrick1: let me look
[15:06] <k1l> freelancerbob: i dont know if that dd command was correct and if there were any errors. i dont know your setup or what the intention was
[15:06] <freelancerbob> k1l: and what ddrescue command do you suggest ?
[15:07] <k1l> freelancerbob: using dd(rescue) its very important to make sure that source and target are correct.
[15:07] <k1l> freelancerbob: ddrescue is fine. but there is enough stuff that can be done wrong by the user
[15:09] <freelancerbob> k1l: and what can be wrong ? I have one wrong HDD and one good HDD
[15:09] <boxrick1> netcfg/choose_interface=auto seems to come up from my search as a kernel paramter
[15:10] <nacc> boxrick1:that's the equivalent of the preseed file command
[15:10] <nacc> boxrick1: ah i see, yes, that's your issue
[15:10] <nacc> boxrick1: so network booting, you need network *before* you get the preseed
[15:10] <nacc> boxrick1: so i'd suggest sending all network stuff over the kernel cmdline
[15:10] <k1l> freelancerbob: something must have been wrong.
[15:11] <boxrick1> Yea it seems so, that line just there seems to have helped
[15:11] <freelancerbob> k1l:  ok tell me what i have to do with correct HDD ?
[15:11] <skinux> I'm trying to install a standard for PHP CodeSniffer. It tells me to add something to PATH variable of .bashrc, but my /etc/bash.bashrc doesn't set any PATH variable
[15:11] <k1l> freelancerbob: look at the dmesg output when you connect that disk
[15:11] <nacc> skinux: /etc/bash.bashrc is not 'your' .bashrc
[15:11] <skinux> What happened to .bashrc is home directory?
[15:11] <nacc> skinux: that's the system-wide one, consider using ~/.bashrc
[15:12] <skinux> ~/.bashrc didn't show in result of 'locate .bashrc'
[15:13] <freelancerbob> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23251459/
[15:13] <skinux> The ~/.bashrc doesn't set PATH either
[15:13] <skinux> Should I just add PATH=whatever-here to the bottom of the file?
[15:14] <k1l> freelancerbob: and what was placed on that old disk that you dd to that new disk?
[15:14] <punkoivan> .profle?
[15:14] <punkoivan> .bash_profile ?
[15:14] <freelancerbob> k1l: it is corrupted, i have photos there to need to restore :(
[15:14] <skinux> .bash_profile is empty
[15:14] <freelancerbob> k1l:  and you or someone told me use ddrescue
[15:16] <nacc> skinux: you should use PATH=...:$PATH generally
[15:17] <nacc> skinux: otherwise you're overriding PATH, not prepending to it
[15:17] <nacc> skinux: but what PHP thing needs to muck with PATH??
[15:17] <skinux> Yeah, but should I just add that to the bottom of ~/.bashrc?
[15:17]  * ChetManly thinks EriC^^hates kde people :-D
[15:17] <skinux> It says to do it in this https://github.com/WordPress-Coding-Standards/WordPress-Coding-Standards
[15:17] <k1l> freelancerbob: yes. ddrescue is the right tool if the hardware is faulty. but its not a guarantee. there are hardware faults that cant be recovered. so without you saying what error was there when ddrescue was working i dont know what happend. you could try testdisk on the new disk if there are partitions on it.
[15:18] <nacc> skinux: gross. But ok. Is there a reason you can't use the archive version of codesniffer?
[15:19] <nacc> skinux: they want you to, for some reason, use their version of codesniffer
[15:20] <nacc> skinux: ah, i see they need 1.7.x
[15:20] <freelancerbob> k1l: testdisk http://paste.ubuntu.com/23251499/
[15:20] <nacc> skinux: yeah, you can just put PATH manipulations wherever you want in your .bashrc ... although it's a bit surprising to me that your .bashrc is empty
[15:21] <skinux> It's not empty, it just doesn't set PATH at all
[15:21] <k1l> freelancerbob: you know what partitions were on that disk before. so look if testdisk can find that right setup.
[15:22] <skinux> It has a couple of if conditions, both containing some code
[15:22] <_AxS_> Hey all -- i've got an ubuntu 14.04 install, but am trying to run something that needs rubygems newer than 1.9.3 ...  is bringing in a newer ruby or rubygems easy enough or should I bite the bullet and look into doing a full dist-upgrade to 16.04 ?
[15:22] <freelancerbob> k1l: i do not know what to do with testdisk
[15:22] <nacc> skinux: you can just put an appropriate PATH= line (as i mentioned above) in your .bashrc
[15:22] <_AxS_> skinux: what's the thing you're trying to do? i just got here...
[15:23] <k1l> freelancerbob: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk  it can repair the partition table where the start end endings of partitions are written
[15:23] <Loulou> This is a test
[15:24] <skinux> Wait. The tutorial is having to install PHP-CodeSniffer from GitHub...I installed it from repo..
[15:25] <nacc> skinux: yes, it requires a more recent version than ubuntu has (and so will presumably fail when you try to us the ubuntu version)
[15:25] <skinux> Ahh.
[15:28] <lotuscomputers> _AxS_: inmost cases its recommended to not mix package versions
[15:28] <lotuscomputers> _AxS_: unless you want to experiment with !pinning
[15:29]  * _AxS_ nods..  My main distro is gentoo, and we've got the ability there to install multiple versions of ruby without any conflict.  I wasn't sure if ubuntu had the same capability or not
[15:29] <_AxS_> multiple major-versions, that is (1.9, 2.0, 2.1)
[15:30] <nacc> _AxS_: no, that's not supported, afaict -- although 16.04 has both a ruby and ruby2.3 package
[15:35] <Linux-Ninja> Team, does encrypting home using a login password still makes the system vulnerable to someone with access tot he system since theyc an go into single mode and reset the local password and debrypt the home? How are you guys approaching this, encrypting the boot process as well?
[15:36] <drjuls> Greetings! My mouse only works on ubuntu 16:04 to run "sudo rmmod usbhid" "sudo modprobe usbhid". But every time I turn on my laptop have to do this, someone could help me?
[15:37] <nacc> Linux-Ninja: you could use whole-disk encryption
[15:37] <Linux-Ninja> nacc, what tools do you recoemnd for this purpose?
[15:37] <nacc> drjuls: can you compare the 'dmesg' output for that device before & after you run those commands
[15:37] <nacc> Linux-Ninja: reinstall, in this case, and select the whole disk encryption option
[15:38] <Linux-Ninja> nacc, I already got the system up and running
[15:38] <Linux-Ninja> is there a tool we can do after the system is running?
[15:38] <nacc> Linux-Ninja: no
[15:39] <nacc> Linux-Ninja: not if you want whole disk encryption, afaik
[15:40] <Linux-Ninja> nacc, thanks...I will search around...
[15:41] <drjuls> nacc, I am newbie in Linux, I do not quite understand
[15:42] <nacc> drjuls: boot first where it doesn't work, run `dmesg > dmesg.pre`, then do the rmmod/modprobe and run `dmesg > dmesg.post` and then pastebin them both (pastebinit -i dmesg.pre; pastebinit -i dmesg.post) and provide the two URLs here
[15:45] <drjuls> nacc, [   33.645273] input:  USB OPTICAL MOUSE as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1a.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.1/1-1.1:1.0/0003:15D9:0A4C.0002/input/input13
[15:46] <nacc> drjuls: please use a pastebin as directed
[15:46] <ATDT912> I have ubuntu on my Macbook pro 15" retina, and I have a lot of screen tearing in google chrome, while scrolling. I have tried to find a remedy, but I haven't found any clear instructions. Can anyone here, help?
[15:48] <ptytty> currently im replacing ubuntu login with custom greeter & usb authentication
[15:49] <ptytty> anyone know if its been done or have examples?
[15:49] <drjuls> nacc, sorry. http://pastebin.com/NeyuGHpk
[15:51] <nacc> drjuls: that's the pre?
[15:51] <nacc> drjuls: or is that both?
[15:51] <craigbass76> I'm trying to only allow ssh from the LAN and a couple other public IPs. Not sure how. If I've got deny all in hosts deny, and then allow 192.168.x.0/24 and the couple of other IP addresses, will that do the trick? This is an older machine with no repos available, so I'm trying to do it without having to go grab and install whatever iptables worked on this when it was new
[15:52] <craigbass76> And are hosts allow/deny changes immediate, or do I haveto restart the network first?
[15:52] <drjuls> nacc, is pre
[15:52] <nacc> drjuls: the error appears to be "usb 1-1.1: input irq status -75 received" can you please provide post?
[15:53] <nacc> craigbass76: i think you want hosts.deny to say "ALL EXCEPT ...." syntax
[15:53] <nacc> craigbass76: if you're allowing public access, though (even if restricted), don't you want to get on a supported release?
[15:56] <drjuls> nacc, http://pastebin.com/ZZdmXsFu  post the commands
[15:57] <nacc> drjuls: and i'm guessing you no longer see that '
[15:57] <nacc> drjuls: sorry mishit entre -- 'input irq status' line?
[15:58] <craigbass76> nacc: I'm at the mercy of what my company stuck on these servers. This one is Fedora17, but with a new guy in charge, I think we're moving to Ubuntu Server eventually
[15:58] <craigbass76> I've been on a RH 7.3 box lately
[15:58] <nacc> drjuls: how is your usb device connected? hub? kvm switch?
[15:58] <nacc> craigbass76: you should verify with the fedora or redhat channels, then
[16:00] <nacc> drjuls: fwiw, i think it should also just work to unplug & replug your mouse, possible
[16:00] <nacc> *possibly
[16:00] <drjuls> nacc, optical mouse
[16:00] <drjuls> nacc, I've tried to do that too
[16:01] <nacc> drjuls: https://askubuntu.com/questions/768455/usb-mouse-suddenly-stopped-working-16-04 ?
[16:01] <drjuls> nacc, I will trying here, I notice any results. Thank you very much!
[16:02] <c_nick> I want to perform some operations on three servers - copy some folders, update paths and install standard softwares like wincmp3,7zip etc.. how can i automate the same?
[16:02] <ubuntu214> Hey All !
[16:02] <nacc> c_nick: think we talked about this a few days ago
[16:03] <ubuntu214> Have A big Problem ,, Can u help me with ,, plz ! :(
[16:03] <nacc> !ask | ubuntu214
[16:03] <ubuntu214> thanx nacc and ubottu ...
[16:04] <ubuntu214> i have installed Ubuntu 16.04 ( GNOME Flav) And my wifi and Bluetooth ,, not working :( ... "" P.S : i Dont have an internet connection ...
[16:05] <nacc> ubuntu214: are you here on a different computer then?
[16:05] <ubuntu214> yes nacc ,,, yes i am ...
[16:06] <tcorneli> hi, my mouse is stuck in a small square in the top left corner (after using wine ); i would like to change this without restarting x
[16:06] <ubuntu214> Any help ? :\
[16:07] <compdoc> ubuntu214, download the Ubuntu desktop iso, and boot that without installing. see if it works
[16:08] <ubuntu214> compdoc : i tried that ,,, but , still not working ...
[16:09] <compdoc> ubuntu214, do you see the wifi and wired interfaces in Network Manager? maybe its your network. ot maybe you pc is broken
[16:09] <compdoc> or
[16:10] <ubuntu214> compdoc : no icon is shown .... think the problem in the Driver ....
[16:11] <ubuntu214> when i run this command " lspci -n | grep 14e4 " on terminal , shows this " http://paste.ubuntu.com/23251766/ "
[16:11] <compdoc> ubuntu214, if thats the case, then when 16.10 comes out, that version might support your hardware
[16:12] <ubuntu214> compdoc : i only use LTS version ,,, Thanx For Helping .. :)
[16:12] <compdoc> ubuntu214, if its a laptop, make sure the wifi/network switch is on
[16:13] <ubuntu214> any Suggestion ??
[16:13] <c_nick> nacc, I read on ansible docker and Fabric etc.. but they are more about deploying the Software Application on the server but i want to install System Software like 7zip etc how can i achieve that in an automated way
[16:13] <nacc> c_nick: 'software application' and 'system software' are not ubuntu/linux concepts
[16:14] <nacc> c_nick: `apt install p7zip` is what you're trying to automate
[16:14] <nacc> c_nick: which is no different than any other package
[16:14] <ubuntu214> compdoc : there's no wifi icon .... that means ,, bcmwl ' not here :(
[16:14] <c_nick> nacc, any idea about windows
[16:15] <c_nick> i need 7-zip wincmp3 installed
[16:15] <nacc> c_nick: why are you asking about windows in an ubuntu channel?
[16:15] <c_nick> through a script which i can then schedule using TC/jenkins
[16:15] <compdoc> ubuntu214, yes, many laptops have an actual on/off switch on the keyboard for security
[16:15] <compdoc> when its off, there is no wifi card
[16:15] <c_nick> nacc, i work on linux but i cant ignore the windows servers :(
[16:15] <nacc> c_nick: this is the *ubuntu* support channel
[16:16] <nacc> c_nick: it's completely offtopic to ask how to install software on windows
[16:16] <c_nick> :( ok i will head over to windows
[16:16] <nacc> woudl have been nice for you to mention windows anywhere in your original message, or your prior message, as well...
[16:16] <ubuntu214> i have installed bcmwl for my chip st ,, and i run additional Driver ... Can't Run my STA Driver ... it is Automatically chose off   :(
[16:17] <ubuntu214> need help ,,, plz :'(
[16:17] <c_nick> nacc,  yep but i needed for linux too .. cross platform solution didn't leave my mind
[16:17] <tcorneli> can anyone tell me why i can move my mouse only in a small square in the top left corner?
[16:17] <tod_shis> press red button
[16:18] <morty_> hey errybody.. is it possible to use bcmwl with kernel 4.8?
[16:18] <ubuntu214> tcorneli ,, i solved this problem by installing gecko lib & PlayOnLiNUX ...
[16:20] <tcorneli> ubuntu214, playonlinux is installed; do you mean to install gecko lib in playonlinux or in ubuntu?
[16:20] <nacc> morty_: the only topical reason for that question is for 16.10, which should be in #ubuntu+1
[16:20] <ubuntu214> tcorneli install it for ubuntu
[16:21] <morty_> is it bad practice to use a newer kernel in 13.04?
[16:21] <morty_> 16.04
[16:21] <nacc> morty_: it's not supported, wait for the hwe kernels
[16:21] <tcorneli> ubuntu214, what's the package name? i tried gecko and gecko-lib
[16:22] <ubuntu214> tcorneli : https://wiki.winehq.org/Gecko
[16:22] <ubuntu214> tcorneli : askubuntu.com/questions/.../wine-install-do-i-need-mono-gecko-etc
[16:23] <morty_> not being supported and not working well might be two things :)
[16:23] <ubuntu214> any help for my wifi card :(
[16:24] <nacc> morty_: it's not going to have been tested
[16:24] <nacc> morty_: just wait for hwe or you're on your own
[16:24] <morty_> nacc: i was hoping to be on my own with some other enthusiastiv people i could find here :)
[16:24] <_AxS_> morty_: technically you can roll your own kernels from source, there really isn't much in terms of system libs or software that binds to kernel versions, just kernel features.  However, you do get to pick up the pieces for such things, and proprietary binary drivers are very likely to not work.
[16:25] <ubuntu214> whats the kernel version in UBUNTU 16.04
[16:26] <pavlos> around 4.4.0-38
[16:26] <tcorneli> closing the windows app (in PoL) solved the issue
[16:26] <nacc> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[16:26] <nacc> ubuntu214: --^
[16:27] <_AxS_> morty_: tbh i wouldn't recommend running newer than 4.4 anyhow, i've found them to be crashy.
[16:27] <elisa87> if I have IP address of an Ubuntu EC2 instances, how can I check what is the output of its df -h /?
[16:28] <nacc> elisa87: you would ssh in and run that command?
[16:28] <elisa87> nacc so I am writing this in a script
[16:29] <nacc> elisa87: ok ... so you'd run `ssh <...> df -h`
[16:29] <nacc> presuming you have keys setup
[16:29] <morty_> _AxS_: i had a very annoying flickering in the gnome3 title bar.. that went away with 4.8 :) i try to go back to 4.6 or sth.. maybe both works then
[16:29] <morty_> _AxS_: its not an important system or anything.. so i can play a little.. dont mind
[16:30] <nacc> morty_: then just run 16.10?
[16:30] <_AxS_> morty_: which video chipset?  I'd be somewhat surprised if the kernel made that much of a difference, unless it's got to do with the versions of the firmware its loading or whatever
[16:30] <morty_> intel hd
[16:30] <morty_> 4k somthing
[16:30] <_AxS_> is it super new?
[16:31] <morty_> no not really
[16:31]  * _AxS_ shrugs
[16:31] <morty_> nacc: might try 16.10 soon.. but wouldnt i run into exactly the same problem then?
[16:32] <nacc> morty_: 16.10 has the 4.8 kernel
[16:32] <_AxS_> morty_: 16.10 isn't LTS so i'm guessing it's not tied to LTS kernels
[16:32] <morty_> nacc: but if bcwlm doesnt support that kernel i still have no wifi
[16:32] <morty_> bcmwl
[16:32] <nacc> _AxS_: 16.04.2 will also have 4.8 (aiui) via hwe stack
[16:33] <ubloomto> Hello all
[16:33] <nacc> morty_: and you've installed bcmwl-kernel-source?
[16:33] <ubuntu214>  i have installed bcmwl for my chip st ,, and i run additional Driver ... Can't Run my STA Driver ... it is Automatically chose off   :(
[16:33] <ubuntu214> any help ^
[16:33] <nacc> morty_: as that's the bcmwl driver, it's in all versions of ubuntu, the restricted section
[16:34] <ubloomto> say there is an application that overwrites files temporarily during ubuntu running, is there a way I can check for an overwritten file whilst still on the same logged in session?
[16:35] <ubuntu214> Any Driver for this :> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23251766/  ... using Ubuntu 16.04
[16:35] <morty_> nacc: yes its installed.. but the --reinstall does say no module wl found and kernel 4.8 not supported
[16:35] <dfrey> Is there a guide to install a more minimal Ubuntu?  I am trying to create a VM with a development environment, so I don't want things like rhythmbox, mail clients, etc.  I know there is a minimal ISO, but that seems like it just installs the same Ubuntu, but downloads everything at installation time.
[16:35] <nacc> morty_: in 16.10?
[16:35] <morty_> 16.04 still
[16:35] <nacc> morty_: again, 16.04 doesn't have a 4.8 kernel, so of course the pacakge doesn't work
[16:36] <nacc> try 16.10, if you want
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> !mini | dfrey there's this
[16:36] <morty_> nacc: mine has :) even though not supported.. i go try 4.6.. maybe till later
[16:36] <ubuntu214> my Kernel Version is 4.4 ... Bcmwl gona work ? :\
[16:36] <morty_> ubuntu214: yeah.. worked under 4.4
[16:36] <nacc> morty_: please stop trying to be cute, i think you know what i mean
[16:37] <nacc> dfrey: you could also start with server and install whatyou need
[16:37] <dfrey> MonkeyDust: I mentioned that in my question.  Doesn't that just install all the same stuff as the regular desktop ISO?
[16:38] <ubloomto> I am looking for a certain firefox file that may have been overwritten, but possibly still stored on my machine somewhere. Is there a place (like a /tmp/ area) where such overwritten files are stored?
[16:38] <nacc> ubloomto: if it's been overwritten... where would it be?
[16:38] <nacc> ubloomto: most programs don't make backups of their own files, ime
[16:38] <nacc> ubloomto: unless you did it yourself, first
[16:38] <dfrey> nacc: Is there anything special about the server installer that will make my installation unusual once I install a desktop environment?
[16:39] <ubuntu214> am so stupid ,, can't run my wifi
[16:39] <nacc> dfrey: no, just a difference of what packages are installed by default
[16:40] <ubuntu214> how to know my Bcmwl Driver - Card/Model ??
[16:40] <ubloomto> nacc: I accidentally chose the wrong option on session restore. then I panicked, closed the browser, re-opened and tried to restore. the sessionrestore file likely got overwritten, but this guide: http://techrant.co.uk/2012/03/how-to-recover-your-firefox-session-when-all-hope-is-lost/ says there might be a temp version stored somewhere. It is howev
[16:40] <ubloomto> er, windows-based, so I thought I'd ask here for a Linux option
[16:41] <dfrey> nacc: ok. thanks
[16:42] <nacc> ubloomto: try ~.mozilla/firefox/<session id>/sessionstore-backups ?
[16:42] <nacc> ubloomto: er ~/.mozilla/firefox/<session id>/sessionstore-backups ?
[16:42] <morty_> soo.. if anyone is interessted.. with 4.6.7 it works.. aaaand 4.8 didnt help the flickering as i thought :)
[16:44] <ubloomto> nacc: I have looked there already. The recovery.bak and recovery.js both got overwritten. I want to find the version 'just before' they were overwritten
[16:45] <nacc> ubloomto: so you've recovered twice already?
[16:51] <ubloomto> nacc: I opened my browser, accidentally chose the wrong option. it gave me a fresh option. I then closed the browser and re-opened (thinking my old session might be there), but it is not there anymore. Browser has been closed once only
[16:52] <theonefoo> I’ve created a key pair on my host machine and copied the public key to an ubuntu server. sshd_config has PasswordAuthentication set to no. Why is it that now trying to run `ssh -i privatekey myuser@ubuntu-machine-ip` prompts me for my user’s password? This command is run from within ~/.ssh on host machine and privatekey exists in that path.
[16:52] <ubloomto> theonefoo: did you restart the SSH service after making changes?
[16:53] <theonefoo> yes, but I can try that again since I changed sshd_config several times before I was able to log in with the new privatekey
[16:53] <hicoleri> I use refind ans a workaround as a method to boot to usb devices on my computer, because GRUB seems to override the rest of my boot devices (and the boot device selection menu, i.e. the f10 menu). However, even that doesn't seem to detect my usb devices now. (i have tested them on a seperate computer.) What should I do?
[16:53] <theonefoo> sudo /ssh/init.d/ssh restart right?
[16:54] <ubloomto> theonefoo: yes
[16:54] <theonefoo> hm no that’s not the path…
[16:54] <pavlos>  /etc
[16:54] <theonefoo> thanks
[16:54] <theonefoo> that did the trick, thank you!
[16:55] <ubloomto> theonefoo: you don't need to add your private key to the command. Add that info to your hosts file
[16:55] <theonefoo> this ssh command is running on a CI environment, not sure how I could script creating the hosts file so that it works in this case
[16:57] <theonefoo> right now private key is set as an environment variable in CI configuration and is echo’d to a “sshkey” file
[17:01] <akik> ubloomto: which hosts file do you mean?
[17:01] <akik> ubloomto: because in /etc/hosts there are just ips and hostnames
[17:01] <theonefoo> akik: ~/.ssh/known_hosts?
[17:02] <ubloomto> that one ^^
[17:02] <ubloomto> ^
[17:02] <theonefoo> hm I guess I could just echo it to there
[17:03] <theonefoo> is that even necessary though when the ssh command runs once in a disposable CI environment?
[17:03] <CHBMB> Anybody replaced nautilus with nemo?  Any "gotchas"
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> CHBMB  nemo has the F3 dual pane, nautilus does not
[17:04] <CHBMB> Worthwhile changing then?  I'm fairly new to Ubuntu (less than a month exclusively)
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> CHBMB  'worthwile' is a matter of opinion and appreciation
[17:06] <k1l> CHBMB: best is to try it on your own, to be honest. everyone got a different taste or workflow
[17:07] <CHBMB> Fair point chaps...
[17:07] <akik> correct me if i'm wrong but i thought known_hosts has only host keys, not personal keys
[17:07] <CHBMB> Any other nautilus replacements you'd recommend?
[17:08] <ubloomto> akik: known hosts is what you'd use to map each key to an IP
[17:09] <ChetManly> does chown not work on ntfs drive?
[17:09] <ChetManly> mine is root but I want it to be my user
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> ChetManly  iirc, ntfs does not know linux flags
[17:09] <k1l> ChetManly: ntfs doesnt support that.
[17:10] <k1l> ChetManly: so chown the mountpoint and look at what mount settings you used
[17:10] <eslam_LinUxer> Hey Guys ,,,, i have Succeed  . installing STA for my Bcmwl ,, using Ubuntu 16.04 {offline}
[17:10] <ChetManly> ok mount point not device
[17:10] <akik> ubloomto: i just didn't understand what you meant by adding the private key to the hosts file
[17:11] <ChetManly> k1l: spanks :-)
[17:11] <eslam_LinUxer> badly " http://3.1m.yt/Hdm3mDI.png " , can't select proprietary ,, ! " when i chose it and press Apply ,, show no action ...
[17:12] <eslam_LinUxer> Any Help Plz ! ^
[17:13] <ChetManly> so do I need a card with three or more video outs to three monitors?
[17:13] <ChetManly> meaning its not possible to have three with a card that only has two outs?
[17:14] <eslam_LinUxer> any help ,, for my problem ???
[17:14] <slaffe> anyone care to help? Trying to enable a service in systemctl
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> !patience | eslam_LinUxer
[17:14] <nacc> slaffe: what is happening?
[17:14] <slaffe> [19:14:46]slaffe@scenics:~$ sudo systemctl enable /etc/systemd/system/deluged.service
[17:14] <slaffe> Failed to execute operation: Too many levels of symbolic links
[17:15] <eslam_LinUxer> oK ,ok , ok
[17:15] <nacc> slaffe: why are you passing a path?
[17:15] <slaffe> what?
[17:15] <Alec_> sudo systemctl enable deluged
[17:15] <slaffe> Trying to get deluged to work after it broke due to 16.04 upgrade
[17:15] <nacc> slaffe: can't you just do `sudo systemctl enable deluged` ?
[17:15] <slaffe> [19:14:52]slaffe@scenics:~$ sudo systemctl enable deluged
[17:15] <slaffe> Failed to execute operation: Too many levels of symbolic links
[17:15] <nacc> you probably have broken some things by using that path in the path
[17:16] <nacc> as the path for enable is the unit file, not the /etc/ file
[17:16] <slaffe> neer gotten any other reply than that
[17:16] <slaffe> never*
[17:16] <nacc> slaffe: than what?
[17:17] <slaffe> before upgrade i always used service deluged start
[17:17] <slaffe> and that wont work nomore
[17:17] <Alec_> slaffe: This started when you upgraded?
[17:17] <slaffe> ya, right after
[17:17] <Alec_> From 14.04?
[17:17] <slaffe> ya
[17:17] <Alec_> Haha
[17:17] <eslam_LinUxer> ...
[17:17] <nacc> slaffe: if you go back and forth, you might have messed things up, and i'm guessing now that some symlink is broken in /lib/
[17:17] <Alec_> I would not have updated
[17:17] <slaffe> so removed deluged deluged-webui and reinstalled, now this
[17:17] <nacc> slaffe: give me a few minutes to reproduce
[17:17] <nacc> Alec_: that's not helpful
[17:17] <Alec_> Remove deluge and reinstall
[17:17] <slaffe> Alec_ already done :S
[17:17] <Alec_> I have deluge also :)
[17:18] <Alec_> How did you install
[17:18] <nacc> slaffe: have you filed a bug, btw?
[17:18] <ppf> slaffe: on my system, deluged doesn't ship a systemd unit
[17:18] <ppf> where is this coming from?
[17:18] <Alec_> ppf: exactly what I was getting at
[17:19] <ppf> dpkg -L deluged
[17:19] <johnpaul> hi sir help me how to fix this
[17:19] <johnpaul> This location could not be displayed
[17:19] <slaffe> ppf I read some tutorial somewhere
[17:19] <slaffe> Alec_ just removed it and sudo apt-get install deluged deluged-web
[17:19] <slaffe> webui*
[17:19] <ppf> slaffe: use the one from the repositories
[17:19] <k1l> johnpaul: what program gives you that error?
[17:19] <slaffe> so I did
[17:20] <slaffe> but the systemctl enable thingy is from a tutorial
[17:20] <ppf> johnpaul: not again. your warez disk is broken, get a new one
[17:20] <ioria> slaffe,  http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/UserGuide/Service/systemd   this ?
[17:20] <Alec_> I think that the systemd script is the problem
[17:20] <slaffe> yes ioria
[17:20] <slaffe> that one
[17:20] <nacc> slaffe: yeah, afaict, there is no systemd unit in the ubuntu package?
[17:20] <johnpaul> aw i use it 1yr only
[17:21] <k1l> johnpaul: ah right. your disk was broken with i/o errors. you cant use that anymore. you need to get a new disk
[17:21] <ioria> slaffe,  and the  'Migration from init.d or Upstart scripts' section, not working ?
[17:21] <slaffe> nope
[17:21] <k1l> johnpaul: time is no matter of hardware failures. some even brake before they leave the factory
[17:21] <eslam_LinUxer> how to run software&updates by sudo ?
[17:21] <johnpaul> how sad
[17:22] <nicomachus> eslam_LinUxer: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[17:22] <slaffe> guess i'll try to remove it and install it again then
[17:22] <ioria> slaffe,  and the service it's not running ... i guess
[17:22] <ppf> slaffe: won't help
[17:22] <k1l> eslam_LinUxer: sudo apt update && sudo apt fullu-upgrade
[17:22] <slaffe> no ioria its not
[17:22] <k1l> eslam_LinUxer: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[17:22] <ppf> the systemd unit looks alright
[17:22] <ppf> readlink -e /usr/bin/deluged please
[17:22] <nicomachus> k1l: too slow. >:D
[17:22] <slaffe> [19:17:22]slaffe@scenics:~$ readlink -e /usr/bin/deluged
[17:23] <slaffe> ...[19:17:22]slaffe@scenics:~$ readlink -e /usr/bin/deluged
[17:23] <eslam_LinUxer> i mean this http://3.1m.yt/Hdm3mDI.png
[17:23] <slaffe> ../usr/bin/deluged
[17:23] <Alec_> Try /usr/bin/deluged
[17:23] <k1l> eslam_LinUxer: what is the output of "groups" in terminal?
[17:23] <ppf> readlink -e  /etc/systemd/system/deluged.service
[17:24] <eslam_LinUxer> k1l : i am not using ubuntu now ...
[17:24] <slaffe> says: /lib/systemd/system/deluged.service
[17:24] <tahir> tahir cdrom floppy sudo audio dip video plugdev netdev lpadmin scanner bluetooth
[17:24] <ppf> yeah, that won't work
[17:24] <tahir> sorry
[17:24] <tahir> i am using debian
[17:24] <ppf> systemd enable doesn't do symlinks
[17:24] <slaffe> aha
[17:25] <k1l> eslam_LinUxer: because usually the desktop will ask you for the password when needed there. so you dont run it as sudo manually.
[17:25] <johnpaul> tnx sir k1l
[17:25] <ppf> at least it didn't do until very recently
[17:25] <ppf> so: move that file over to /etc/systemd/system
[17:25] <Alec_> Test that ./usr/bin/deluged works just to be sure
[17:26] <slaffe> done
[17:26] <ppf> Alec_: won't be necessary
[17:26] <eslam_LinUxer> k1l : yes ,,,,, there's no ask for password .... how can i solve it ?
[17:26] <ppf> slaffe: systemctl enable deluged works?
[17:26] <slaffe> moved the files to /etc/systemd/system
[17:26] <slaffe> hang on
[17:26] <ppf> fileS?
[17:26] <slaffe> ya, deluged.conf and deluged-webui.conf
[17:27] <ppf> need to catch a train, back in a bit
[17:27] <slaffe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23252113/
[17:30] <noirchrome> hoy ppl
[17:30] <k1l> eslam_LinUxer: you cant like you think.
[17:30] <slaffe> ppf when you're back: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23252129/
[17:31] <eslam_LinUxer> what to do ?
[17:31] <k1l> eslam_LinUxer: i guess your user is missing some group memberships and therefore you cant change the settings there
[17:31] <k1l> eslam_LinUxer: that is why i asked for the output of "groups"
[17:31] <eslam_LinUxer> ok ,, how to can change group ???
[17:31] <eslam_LinUxer> well ,,, theres no root group in my ubuntu ...
[17:32] <k1l> eslam_LinUxer: why dont you show us what groups that user is in?
[17:33] <eslam_LinUxer> k1l : i am not using ubuntu now ...
[17:33] <eslam_LinUxer> ok i will use it now ,,, any thing else exept group ??
[17:33] <k1l> eslam_LinUxer: ok, so we cant solve this issue now
[17:34] <wildc4rd> I run a Ubuntu media server, is there any way to get Netflix working?
[17:34] <noirchrome> does anyone get some strange flickering when seeing the login screen ? ubuntu 16.04 ?
[17:34] <k1l> wildc4rd: netflix should work with chrome
[17:35] <wildc4rd> k1l, when you try to play something, it says it required Silverlight...
[17:36] <k1l> wildc4rd: chrome, not chromium
[17:37] <Alec_> Does anyone have any experience with NIC bonding in 14.04?
[17:38] <akik> wildc4rd: netflix works with firefox too but you need to change the user agent
[17:39] <akik> wildc4rd: i think it was firefox 49.0 which brought the support
[17:42] <wildc4rd> thanks k1l (and akik), chrome did the trick
[17:43] <nacc> slaffe: to be clear, what did you use to do in 14.04 (my lxc is dist-upgrading right now, will ping you when it's done)
[17:43] <eslam_LinUxer> k1l  : groups output http://1.1m.yt/AjZnE57.png
[17:45] <slaffe> nacc what I used my server for?
[17:45] <slaffe> in 14.04?
[17:46] <nacc> slaffe: no, i meant what did you use to manipulate deluged before
[17:46] <k1l> eslam_LinUxer: ok. that looks ok. you are in sudo and plugdev
[17:46] <eslam_LinUxer> thank god ...
[17:46] <eslam_LinUxer> what 2 do ,, mister k1l
[17:47] <tahir> how do i enable ssl
[17:47] <k1l> eslam_LinUxer: if you set the unknown device to "using processor microcode" can you press apply then?
[17:48] <eslam_LinUxer> k1l : no i cant
[17:49] <hustleCrypto> ##learnpython
[17:49] <k1l> eslam_LinUxer: dont know whats broken there
[17:49] <eslam_LinUxer> me 2 ,,,
[17:50] <de-facto> tahir you mean ssl here for irc connection? i think you can connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6997 with ssl enabled in your client
[17:50] <de-facto> chat.freenode.net rather
[17:50] <eslam_LinUxer> maybe if i tried 2 press Apply using sudo ,, maybe :\
[17:51] <de-facto> whoaa correction i mean chat.freenode.net on port 6697
[17:52] <nacc> slaffe: so i have no idea what you did, but here's what i did: started up 14.04, `apt install deluged`. dist-upgrade to 16.04. and the result of doing a normal systemctl enable is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23252204/
[17:53] <nacc> slaffe: like i said, i don't know why you were passing a path to `systemctl enable` rather than the name of the unit file, but that's almost certainl what broke things
[17:55] <slaffe> nacc i think my server is relaly messed up by this upgrade
[17:55] <slaffe> had everything working great before, after the upgrade, did same as you did
[17:55] <nacc> slaffe: i'm not sure it is or not -- the upgrade went fine and then you seemed to follow a different guide?
[17:55] <slaffe> fail2ban stopped working, owncloud server crashed, deluged wont work and so on
[17:56] <nacc> slaffe: i thought you did `systemctl enable /etc/systemd/....`
[17:56] <Alec_> slaffe: if possible I would consider rolling back
[17:56] <nacc> slaffe: owncloud is no longer apackaged in 16.04
[17:56] <slaffe> running owncloud 9.1 now
[17:57] <nacc> slaffe: from where? built from source?
[17:57] <slaffe> from their repo
[17:57] <nacc> slaffe: you would need to ask them for support, then
[17:57] <nacc> we can only help with ubuntu packages here
[17:57] <slaffe> had to reinstall it, works fine now
[17:57] <slaffe> this i know
[17:57] <ppf> slaffe you've got a typo in that paste?
[17:57] <eslam_LinUxer> any help ..
[17:57] <ppf> is that still pending?
[17:58] <ppf> fwiw: sudo systemctl start deluged
[17:58] <slaffe> ppf i am still at the paste ya
[17:58] <slaffe> start: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
[17:58] <slaffe> at that stage
[17:58] <ppf> start is an upstart command, not systemctl
[17:58] <slaffe> ahh
[17:59] <ppf> so maybe drop in a systemctl there :)
[17:59] <slaffe> ok, done it
[17:59] <slaffe> [17:59] <slaffe> and so on, same as before
[17:59] <slaffe> Why is this prompting?
[17:59] <ppf> it's asking you for your password
[18:00] <ppf> missing a sudo?
[18:00] <ppf> nacc: systemctl can do paths in enable (at least today, don't know about t he ubuntu version)
[18:00] <slaffe> client started now
[18:00] <eslam_LinUxer> can i run ubuntu by sudo ? i mean all the system ....
[18:00] <k1l> eslam_LinUxer: no
[18:01] <ppf> that'll combine systemctl link with systemctl enable on the then-symlinked unit
[18:01] <k1l> eslam_LinUxer: and i dont know if a "oneiric" driver is the right one for you
[18:01] <ppf> but it might not be a good idea to do that from the /etc/systemd home :)
[18:01] <ppf> and also won't work with older versions
[18:02] <akik> eslam_LinUxer: i've noticed some systemd commands ask you for the password if you don't use sudo
[18:02] <nacc> ppf: yes, i understand it *can* -- i don't know why you would
[18:02] <eslam_LinUxer> iconfig -a ?
[18:02] <nacc> ppf: and like i just said, i didn't experience any issues upgrading for deluged in a quick test
[18:04] <cagomez> if a command isn't in my path, should this work to add it temporarily? export PATH="/usr/local/gprolog/bin:$PATH"; echo $PATH; gprolog -h
[18:04] <nacc> cagomez: if that's the correct path, yeah
[18:05] <cagomez> nacc: I'm using the python subprocess module like this; print(subp.getoutput('export PATH="/usr/local/gprolog/bin:$PATH"; echo $PATH; gprolog -h'))  ... and it gives...
[18:06] <cagomez> ' /usr/local/gprolog/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Users/cagomez/venv/bin , then /bin/sh: gprolog: command not found
[18:06] <nacc> cagomez: given you're doing path manipulation, why not just do an absolute apth to gprolog?
[18:07] <slaffe> ppf when i try to connect to the webgui and start the daemon i am getting this in terminal
[18:07] <slaffe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23252253/
[18:07] <ppf> slaffe: well the error message is rather clear, isn't it?
[18:08] <slaffe> ya is, but using same config as before
[18:08] <slaffe> so using same pw oO
[18:08] <cagomez> thanks nacc ! doing that instead
[18:08] <ImageJPEG> I've got two quick questions. I've got a Ubuntu laptop setup for a timeclock punch. (Users just log onto a web app and clock in/out). I've got a user just for that purpose on the computer. Is there any way that I can disable all apps execpt for firefox for the timeclock user? Second question would be if there's a way I can disable the use of Firefox safe mode for this user as well. I've got a website blocker addon (blocks all but the web app for the time c
[18:08] <ImageJPEG> lock) and a Kiosk addon to disable menus etc...
[18:09] <slaffe> when loggin on to webui it accepts the password, then when I try to start daemon I get this
[18:11] <slaffe> That is why I dont get the password dont match?
[18:13] <ppf> does the user running the daemon match?
[18:13] <ppf> who's the error coming from?
[18:13] <slaffe> deluge-web runs by user deluge
[18:14] <slaffe> deluged runs by me, although it says deluged in config file
[18:14] <ppf> that's probably wrong?
[18:14] <noirchrome> can anyone give a little hint about ncmpcpp ?
[18:14] <slaffe> wonder why it runs by me when it's supposed to be deluged
[18:14] <slaffe> hmm
[18:14] <ppf> well how did you start it?
[18:16] <slaffe> started both same way, systemctl start deluged and web. web started by user deluge and deluged by me.
[18:16] <ppf> what's in the systemd file?
[18:17] <slaffe> same in both configs
[18:17] <ppf> someone earlier suggested to try and run the program to test it, did you do that?
[18:17] <slaffe> killed the process now and started with sudo -u deluge systemctl start deluged
[18:17] <slaffe> works now
[18:17] <slaffe> probably not the right way though :D
[18:18] <ppf> no, just sudo
[18:18] <slaffe> ok
[18:19] <zteam> Hi all!
[18:19] <ppf> hi
[18:19] <chyno> hi! i have a many times discussed question, but i haven't found any working answer... Is it possible to update nvidia drivers on ubuntu (16.04)? i'm currently using nvidia-340, but i couldn't compile doppia (https://bitbucket.org/rodrigob/doppia) with cuda 6.5, so i was thinking about updating driver to install new cuda 8.0.
[18:20] <zteam> I'm troubleshooting sound problems on Ubuntu, and my friend asks me to try to change sampling rate on my soundcard how can I do that with Ubuntu??
[18:20] <slaffe> thank you for helping a pure beginner in this new world ppl. Most people would tell me to fuck off, my lift my virtual hat and bow.
[18:20] <slaffe> ppf*
[18:21] <ppf> chyno: nvidia.com?
[18:21] <zteam> according to this post it can't even be done
[18:21] <ppf> !sound | zteam
[18:22] <OerHeks> zteam, a codec can, but i think it is not related.
[18:22] <ppf> slaffe: sure thing!
[18:22] <chyno> ppf: i tried downloading driver from nvidia.com, but i wasn't able to install it from virtual console. (with lightdm stopped)
[18:23] <zteam> ppf, that doesn't answere my question at all, isn't there any easy way to solve this?
[18:23] <OerHeks> don't use the drivers from nvidia.com chyno
[18:23] <ppf> chyno: why
[18:23] <OerHeks> use the official driver ppa https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[18:23] <ppf> OerHeks: if you want cuda8 you need to
[18:24] <zteam> ppf, I need to try other sample rates, I have used Ubuntu for over 10 years
[18:25] <Alec_> I am having some issues setting up a balance-rr (mode 0) bond in 14.04. I am using this bond for a direct connection to my NAS. The two slaves are running and appear to be working. The bond is showing as no link detected however. Any ideas of where to look for the problem? No errors in dmesg.
[18:26] <Alec_> Here is my interface config: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23252353/
[18:26] <ppf> zteam: try changing the sample rate in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf
[18:26] <chyno> OerHeks, ppf: i don't exactly need cuda8, but maybe newer than 6.5. idk. i ran the installation first time, it added the nvidia-installer-disable-noveau.conf, restarted it a the same response came, that it can't install drivers with Nouveau in use
[18:27] <ppf> if you don't need cuda then stock drivers will do
[18:27] <OerHeks> chyno, just blacklist nouveau?
[18:28] <ppf> yes, do that
[18:28] <chyno> ppf: i certainly need cuda, but i am not sure which version, browsing through the internet i came to conclusion that it won't compile with cuda6.5
[18:29] <chyno> OerHeks: how? i thought it was done by that conf file
[18:29] <ppf> the 340 driver works with cuda7
[18:30] <chyno> ppf: ok, that sounds good. i'm sorry, but where can i find this cuda and driver's compatibility?
[18:31] <ppf> nvidia 361 is the lates one in the repos i think
[18:32] <nacc> !info nvidia-367
[18:32] <nacc> !info nvidia-367 yakkety
[18:32] <ppf> !info nvidia-361
[18:32] <nacc> ppf: yeah for 16.04
[18:33] <OerHeks> driver ppa got 367 and 370 https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[18:33] <nacc> OerHeks: nice
[18:35] <DK2> Alec_ why do you define eth0 and eth1 as manual
[18:35] <chyno> OerHeks, ppf: yeah, i use that repo, but when i install nvidia-(fe. 370) than it makes no change in software and updates panel
[18:35] <chyno> *then
[18:36] <Alec_> DK2: what else would they be defined as?
[18:36] <gebruiker> do we really need flash?
[18:36] <DK2> you can comment the config for eth0 and eth1 out i think
[18:36] <chyno> but, i will now try to install cuda7, i really only need to be able to compile doppia
[18:36] <DK2> and put eth0 eth1 in bond-slaves
[18:37] <chyno> ppf, OerHeks : thanks for now
[18:37] <DK2> the configuration you have sucks
[18:37] <Alec_> I thought that was only for mode 4 (ieee)
[18:37] <DK2> did you tried it this way?
[18:37] <Alec_> DK2: why does it suck, it is almost if not identical to the one on the ubuntu website
[18:37] <Alec_> ?
[18:38] <Alec_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding
[18:38] <mpounta> Hello, is there a specific channel for ubuntu IoT , snappy ubuntu core ? :)
[18:39] <Alec_> I already tried adding them to bond-slaves but I did not remove them from the config. I will try that shortly
[18:39] <shadaloo> can someone tell me what this article refers to when it says
[18:39] <shadaloo> http://tuxthink.blogspot.com/2014/10/can-not-create-syskernelueventhelper.html
[18:39] <shadaloo> Save the .config file and recompile the kernel and boot it. The above error should not occur.
[18:39] <shadaloo> what do they mean recompile the kernel?
[18:39] <nacc> shadaloo: it's referring to rebuilding your kernel
[18:39] <shadaloo> if I installed the kernel from a .deb
[18:39] <DK2> i think even if its working a restarting the network wont get the boding back up
[18:39] <shadaloo> do they mean use dpkg -i again?
[18:39] <nacc> shadaloo: if you don't know, then it's not somethign you should do
[18:39] <DK2> because the ifaces are defined as manual
[18:39] <nacc> shadaloo: no
[18:39] <DK2> and there are no slaves defined in the bond config
[18:40] <nacc> !compile | shadaloo
[18:40] <Keydns> is there a reason i cant use my nickname anymore across two terminals running irssi?
[18:40] <k1l> shadaloo: compiling means making the kernel.deb package again. but this needs some knowledge and some more computing time
[18:40] <shadaloo> nacc: thanks
[18:41] <nacc> shadaloo: i only have the 16.10 .config in front of me, but that option is on now (at least)
[18:41] <shadaloo> nacc: i am actually on linux-mint, but I pulled the .debs from ubuntu archives
[18:42] <Alec_> DK2: So remove the eth1 and eth2 configs and bond-slaves eth1 eth2 to the bond0 config?
[18:42] <Alec_> DK2: So remove the eth1 and eth2 configs and **add** bond-slaves eth1 eth2 to the bond0 config?
[18:42] <slaffe> anyone else havng problem with fail2ban after upgrade to 16.04?
[18:43] <k1l> shadaloo: ouch. mint handles stuff like kernels and module differently. better ask their support about issus
[18:43] <nacc> shadaloo: it's enabled in ubuntu 16.04 too
[18:43] <k1l> !mint | shadaloo
[18:43] <nacc> shadaloo: but !mint is ot here :/
[18:43] <nacc> shadaloo: and i don't think it's recommended to mix distributions like that
[18:44] <gebruiker> guys
[18:44] <DK2> Yeah
[18:44] <gebruiker> I would like the stability of debian stable branch and unity
[18:44] <shadaloo> I read in askubuntu
[18:44] <DK2> i have one working config
[18:44] <DK2> sec
[18:44] <shadaloo> the fix to run 4.7 kernels is as simple as this one config line
[18:44] <nacc> shadaloo: running mainline kerenls is also offtopic here
[18:45] <shadaloo> okay
[18:45] <shadaloo> lol
[18:45] <shadaloo> walled gardens
[18:45] <nacc> umm
[18:45] <Alec_> DK2: config updated, rebooting
[18:45] <nacc> shadaloo: that's not what we're saying by any means
[18:45] <nacc> shadaloo: you should read where that reference comes from to understand
[18:46] <shadaloo> nacc: why don't you just tell me
[18:46] <nacc> shadaloo: this is the *ubuntu* support channel. You are on mint, which is not supported here, asking about kernels that are not supported on any version of Ubuntu.
[18:46] <k1l> shadaloo: you run a system that handles kernels, modules and updates differently. so please ask the mint guys for help on your issue
[18:46] <zteam> pfoo, you don't happen to know a GUI or something for this stuff?
[18:46] <vanshita> hey
[18:46] <ppf> zteam: drivers don't usually come with a gui
[18:46] <chyno> ppf, OerHeks : please, i haven't found any package for ubuntu16 on their website (https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-toolkit-70), neither they are in official repo
[18:47] <slaffe> this is the output from fail2ban after upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04 http://paste.ubuntu.com/23252428/
[18:47] <ppf> chyno: i've used the 14.X version successfully
[18:48] <Alec_> DK2: It did not work. Be back shortly.
[18:48] <chyno> ppf: ok
[18:48] <ppf> just give it a try, can't break much :)
[18:49] <zteam> ppf, I can agree on that, but on Windows you do have a gui for that provided with the drivers CD, maybe that's not the case in Ubuntu, but having to spend time on reading on different sample rates withot knowing which one to use just feels hopeless
[18:49] <ppf> are you certain that that's really what you need to do?
[18:50] <nacc> ppf: did you have local configurations before?
[18:50] <ppf> nacc: local configurations of what?
[18:50] <nacc> ppf: of fail2ban
[18:50] <nacc> ppf: modified from what ubuntu shipped in 14.04
[18:51] <ppf> nacc: i think you mean slaffe
[18:51] <nacc> ppf: urgh, sorry!
[18:51] <ppf> no worries
[18:51] <slaffe> nacc ya I had my jail.local
[18:51] <nacc> slaffe: did you have local modifications to fail2ban
[18:51] <DK2> Alec_ weird, do you have ifenslave installed?
[18:52] <slaffe> What do you mean by local modifications? I did not use jail.conf, only jail.local
[18:53] <nacc> slaffe: any changes in /etc/fail2ban
[18:53] <nacc> slaffe: there is LP: #1584315
[18:54] <slaffe> i will check
[18:54] <zteam> ppf, if you talking to me, no, not at all, but that is one of the things my friend adviced me to do
[18:55] <ppf> what's the actual problem you're trying to solve
[18:56] <slaffe> nacc I do not have any files ending with .dpkg-dist
[18:56] <erasmus> I need to vent ubuntu sucks
[18:56] <nacc> !ot | erasmus
[18:56] <erasmus> I wasn't asking for help nacc
[18:56] <nacc> erasmus: you're offtopic
[18:56] <ppf> erasmus: #fedora will listen happily!
[18:57] <erasmus> how is what I said offtopic?
[18:57] <erasmus> ppf pfft =)
[18:57] <nacc> erasmus: this is the support channel, not the random complaint channel (or vent channel)
[18:57] <erasmus> ok irc toughguy you are right.
[18:58] <zteam> ppf, I'm experiencing sound clips and noise with my freshly built machine
[18:58] <nacc> slaffe: it seems like possibly some actiosn have been renamed, can you pastebin your conf?
[18:58] <zteam> ppf, if you talking to me please write my nickname
[19:00] <ppf> zteam: will do. afraid i don't have much knowledge in that area
[19:01] <slaffe> nacc here you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23252471/
[19:03] <Alec_> DK2: I'm back
[19:03] <DK2> b
[19:03] <DK2> wb
[19:03] <Alec_> So it doesn't look like it bonded eth1 and eth2
[19:03] <DK2> do you have ifenslave installed? configured the bonding module?
[19:03] <DK2> what does it say?
[19:03] <Alec_> Yes to both.
[19:04] <Alec_> dmesg | grep "bond0" - [    6.179680] bond0: Setting MII monitoring interval to 100
[19:04] <Alec_> That is all
[19:05] <Slugdude> So, I have two graphics cards in my system, an RX 470 and a 9400GT (big contrast) and I want the 470 to drive one display, for gaming on, and the 9400GT to run the other display, for web browsing etc. I have AMDGPU-PRO installed and working on the 470, and nouveau installed for the 9400GT, but on the screen the 9400GT is connected to all I get is a blank screen. It doesn't show up in system settings -> screen display. Anyone know ho
[19:05] <DK2> what does ip a say?
[19:05] <Slugdude> Also, both cards are in lspci
[19:06] <Alec_> ip?
[19:06] <chyno> ppf: currently downloading cuda7 .deb... but i found an answer on SO (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30820513/what-is-version-of-cuda-for-nvidia-304-125), that i won't be compatible with nvidia-340 (currently installed)... where do you search for compatibility table between cuda and drivers? google is no help
[19:06] <DK2> the output of "ip a"
[19:06] <ppf> chyno: install the latest drivers from the repo
[19:06] <ppf> stock drivers are fresh enough
[19:07] <DK2> or cat /proc/net/bonding/bond0
[19:07] <Alec_> bond0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,MASTER,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state DOWN group default qlen 1000
[19:07] <Alec_> cat /proc/net/bonding/bond0
[19:07] <Alec_> MII Status: down
[19:07] <Alec_> sudo ethtool bond0 -> Link detected: no
[19:08] <Alec_> sudo ethtool eth1 -> Link detected: yes
[19:08] <Alec_> sudo ethtool eth2 -> Link detected: yes
[19:08] <nicomachus> !paste | Alec_
[19:08] <Slugdude> OK, what? I hit suspend by mistake (both monitors switch off) and then when I resumed, the screen connected to the 9400GT turned white.
[19:08] <DK2> hats weird
[19:09] <Alec_> DK2: I know....
[19:09] <DK2> what kind of server is it?
[19:09] <Alec_> FYI it is a USB 3.0 dual NIC adapter
[19:10] <DK2> maybe driver issues?
[19:10] <chyno> ppf: you mean this repo? http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu
[19:10] <Alec_> Intel NUC, so only one NIC (eth0). eth1 and eth2 are the adapter.
[19:10] <Alec_> DK2: maybe, but the interfaces didn't work and then I installed the driver and now they interfaces work. Just the bond doesn't.
[19:10] <Slugdude> After a reboot, now the 9400GT's screen has the five Ubuntu loading dots but everything else is black
[19:11] <slaffe> nacc did you find anything strange?
[19:11] <thrawn_new> Hi, im a bit of a newbie to linux and ubuntu collectively and was wondering if someone could help me setup Steam
[19:11] <ppf> chyno: no, the ubuntu xenial repos
[19:11] <glitchd> thrawn_new, sure
[19:11] <ppf> (you are on xenial, right?)
[19:11] <glitchd> thrawn_new, its not hard, what version linux are you running?
[19:11] <nicomachus> thrawn_new: not much to it. Just install it from Software Manager or from terminal with "sudo apt-get install steam"
[19:11] <nacc> slaffe: so i'm 99% sure you're just hitting an incompatiblity on upgrade. Not syaing ti should happen, but your local config is probably meant to be used with 14.04 only. So you'll need to look at what's in the package-managed config (jail.conf) and compare to what's in jail.local
[19:11] <thrawn_new> im on 16.04 ubuntu
[19:11] <nacc> slaffe: the upstream changelog on 0.9.x says they refactored the configuration significantly
[19:12] <glitchd> thrawn_new, you can either install it from command line, the software center, or download the .deb file directly from the steam website
[19:12] <Slugdude> thrawn_new: Use the steam from steam's website, if I recall correctly the one in Ubuntu's repos (on the Ubuntu software store) is outdated.
[19:12] <slaffe> hmm, ok. i'll have to compare them configs and see what is causing this then.
[19:12] <slaffe> Thanks alot nacc
[19:13] <glitchd> thrawn_new, yes the one in the software center is exrememly outdated, Slugdude is correct
[19:13] <nicomachus> it's not *that* out of date
[19:13] <glitchd> thrawn_new, your best bet is to download the .deb file from the steam website
[19:13] <glitchd> nicomachus, its enough outdated to be a bed idea to install
[19:13] <ppf> it's also self-updating
[19:13] <DK2> Alec_ the configuration is definately fine now, the problem must be something else
[19:13] <thrawn_new> Oh thank you guys
[19:13] <thrawn_new> I tried so hard last night to do it and couldn't
[19:14] <nicomachus> ppf is correct. you can install from the repos and then the client will prompt to update when you first open it.
[19:14] <glitchd> thrawn_new, do you need a link to the download?
[19:14] <cagomez> I'm passing command line arguments via subp but the process never quits. like so: ('/usr/local/bin/gprolog --consult-file maze.pl --query-goal "findPath(0,0,4,5,Path), !, write(Path)"') . If I enter CTRL-D in the terminal, the process executes the command line args and returns. Any ideas?
[19:14] <Slugdude> thrawn_new, once you have the .deb file you can install it the easy way by double clicking it, or use the terminal sudo dpkg -i pathto/fileYouDownloaded.deb
[19:14] <cagomez> ^(python subp module)
[19:14] <Slugdude> After that it's pretty much the same as Windows.
[19:14] <nacc> cagomez: you may want to ask in a more python-oriented channel
[19:14] <glitchd> cagomez, *sudo
[19:15] <thrawn_new> I was almost afraid to ask for help b/c im such a newbie
[19:15] <Slugdude> We don't bite :)
[19:15] <nicomachus> thrawn_new: we all start somewhere.
[19:15]  * nicomachus bites Slugdude 
[19:15] <Slugdude> Wow
[19:15] <Slugdude> Apparently we do
[19:15] <michel_> i sterted yesterday
[19:16] <Slugdude> michel_: biting people?
[19:16] <michel_> i dont bite
[19:16] <Alec_> DK2: I ordered another USB 3.0 to dual gigabit adapter. Should be in tomorrow. I will try the new one. But the individual NICs are working fine so I highly doubt that the adapter the problem.
[19:16] <michel_> when im sober
[19:16] <Alec_> Anything else you can think of causing the issue?
[19:16] <chyno> ppf: yes, xenial. i'll try to reboot. hope to get back )
[19:16] <Slugdude> Anyway, anyone hee interested in helping me with my problem?
[19:17] <glitchd> Slugdude, whats your problem?
[19:17] <Slugdude> *sigh* it's rather long, I did say it already
[19:17] <Slugdude> Or did you just join glitchd?
[19:17] <glitchd> Slugdude, i just got here and the scrollback is not available to me..
[19:17] <glitchd> Slugdude, yes
[19:17] <nicomachus> glitchd: he has 2 GPUs, one on one screen another on another. one works the other doesn't.
[19:17] <glitchd> Slugdude, just give me the cliff notes version
[19:17] <Slugdude> OK, one second.
[19:18] <michel_> mouse
[19:18] <glitchd> Slugdude, its already been explained..
[19:18] <DK2> well whats the configuration of /etc/modprobe/bonding.conf?
[19:19] <glitchd> Slugdude, are the 2 gpus the same?
[19:19] <Alec_> That file does not exist. I think it was removed in 14.04.
[19:19] <nacc> slaffe: glitchd: i would look for errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:19] <Slugdude> I have two GPUs, RX 470 and 9400GT, I want dual monitor, one for gaming on the other for web browsing. The one connected to the 9400Gt is displaying the five Ubuntu dots but nothing else but the RX 470 works completely. I have AMDGPU-PRO for the 470 and nouveau for the 9400GT
[19:19] <thrawn_new> WOuld it be possible to dl Teamspeak on ubuntu 16.04?
[19:19] <Slugdude> @glitchd No
[19:19] <DK2> i do still configure my bondings with the bonding.conf tho
[19:20] <DK2> create it then
[19:20] <Alec_> DK2: DO you have an example config?
[19:20] <Slugdude> thrawn_new: as far as I know, yes, but I haven't tried it myself.
[19:21] <thrawn_new> sudo apt-get install teamspeak?
[19:21] <DK2> ~try this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23252528/
[19:21] <k1l> !find teamspeak
[19:22] <DK2> then load with with "modprobe bonding"
[19:22] <Slugdude> I don't think it's in the repositories
[19:22] <k1l> thrawn_new: afaik its prop. and you need to load it from their website
[19:22] <thrawn_new> seems they have native support for linux. dl'ing from their site
[19:23] <thrawn_new> Im trying to get where i can abandon windows
[19:23] <Alec_> DK2: Should it be in modprobe.d?
[19:23] <Slugdude> I ditched Windows about five years ago @thrawn_new
[19:24] <thrawn_new> nice
[19:24] <Slugdude> Never looked back
[19:24] <DK2> create the file in the modprobe.d directory, yes
[19:24] <joe__> Hey all, slowly converting from mac(main)/Windows(for cwertain things) to Ubuntu.  Alowly making progress!
[19:25] <glitchd> if you ever end up needing windows, you can always install it in a vm and use it that way
[19:25] <joe__> I have a question about using spaces.
[19:25] <Slugdude>  
[19:25] <Slugdude> Like that ^ ?
[19:25] <Thrawn> Yeah ive played with that before but i'd rather just be able to do everything in Ubuntu
[19:25] <Thrawn> Especially since you guys and gals are so nice about helping a new person out like me
[19:26] <Alec_> DK2: Nothing happened, should I take down the interfaces?
[19:26] <DK2> yes, reload the network
[19:26] <joe__> ON the mac, I can assign certain software to open in a certain "space".   Each time I reboot or start up my computer, I need to move my programs around to the right windows.    Anyone seen a way to assign programs to a certain space?
[19:26] <glitchd> Thrawn, well sometimes you just have to use windows, as good as linux is, not every windows program works and cooperates in linux
[19:26] <Slugdude> One thing I hated about Windows was how toxic the community can be. We're generally pretty friendly on this corner of the tubes @thrawn
[19:27] <glitchd> yes and yes^^
[19:27] <Thrawn> Yeah i installed 16.04 alongside my windows 10
[19:27] <Slugdude> I should have said "On this side of the POSIX specification"
[19:27] <Slugdude> Lol
[19:27] <Thrawn> I just allocated most of my hard drive to linux
[19:28] <Alec_> DK2: Link is still down
[19:28] <Slugdude> So glitchd, any insights into my dual-GPU dual-monitor situation?
[19:29] <Slugdude> Please don't say I have to do xorg conf...
[19:30] <glitchd> Slugdude, sry i got sidetracked immediatly but im looking for info on the subject
[19:30] <Slugdude> Glitchd, OK thanks
[19:31] <DK2> well im kinda out of ideas
[19:31] <glitchd> Slugdude, np
[19:31] <glitchd> Slugdude, btw what kind of gpus are they?
[19:32] <Slugdude> RX 470 (AMD, primary) and 9400GT (Nvidia, secondary, stop judging me)
[19:32] <Thrawn> so i have the teamspeak 64 bit file download but its not an exe file. i made it executable but now when i try to install, i get the error that there is no file
[19:33] <bekks> Thrawn: whats the filename you downloaded?
[19:33] <pjfl_pt> hi all
[19:34] <Thrawn> TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64-3.0.19.4.run
[19:34] <glitchd> Slugdude, no judging in here=)
[19:34] <bekks> Thrawn: So how are you trying to execute it then?
[19:34] <Thrawn> was using a terminal after making it executable
[19:34] <Alec_> DK2: Thanks for helping. It is the craziest thing. Hopefully the new adapter will work.
[19:34] <Slugdude> glitchd: relevant: https://xkcd.com/963/
[19:34] <pjfl_pt> I have a problem on my ubuntu server. I have update to the last software versins and after update i can not send curl requests
[19:35] <glitchd> Slugdude, is one an onboard gpu and the other is a physical video card?
[19:35] <bekks> Thrawn: What did you do? Staring at the terminal and executing by the power of your mind? :)
[19:35] <Slugdude> No, both dedicated @glitchd
[19:35] <Alec_> I did have it working at one point but then I restarted and it hasn't worked since.
[19:35] <Denommus> is there a place where I can ask packaging-related doubts?
[19:35] <pjfl_pt> if I execue the command curl -x GET "http://google.com"
[19:35] <glitchd> Slugdude, ok then
[19:35] <pjfl_pt> i get the response
[19:35] <glitchd> Slugdude, funny pic btw
[19:35] <pjfl_pt> curl: (7) Failed to connect to GET port 1080: Connection refused
[19:35] <pjfl_pt> can anyone help or have similar problem
[19:35] <Thrawn> ./Teamspeak3-Client-linux_amd64-3.0.19.4.run
[19:36] <Slugdude> Glitchd: don't praise me, it's not mine
[19:36] <bekks> Thrawn: and whats the output of that?
[19:36] <Thrawn> bash: no file or folder found
[19:36] <zark> hello girls do you know a good solution like virtual box on ubuntu ?
[19:36] <bekks> zark: You just named the solution. :))
[19:36] <tgm4883> zak_: have you tried virtualbox?
[19:37] <Slugdude> Yes, zark, it's called virtualbox
[19:37] <glitchd> Slugdude,  im not finding any relevant info on this matter
[19:37] <zark> oOOhh sorry buddies i m a bit drunk
[19:37] <zark> :))
[19:37] <zark> thanjs guys
[19:37] <Slugdude> glitchd: neither am I, which is why I'm here. Pretty sure it's possible though.
[19:38] <ioria> Slugdude, if you boot in text mode and it's all ok for both screens , the issue is X... you 'll probably need a xorg.conf
[19:38] <glitchd> Slugdude, unfortunately, i am of no help on this matter, sry bud
[19:38] <baxt> Ok so just came in what's the issue?
[19:39] <Slugdude> glitchd: when I power down, the power down screen with the Ubuntu logo sometimes shows on both displays.
[19:39] <pjfl_pt> anyone with this response when run curl request on ubuntu server
[19:39] <pjfl_pt> curl: (7) Failed to connect to GET port 1080: Connection refused
[19:39] <Slugdude> Usually does*
[19:39] <glitchd> Slugdude, is each display hooked up to a different card?
[19:40] <Slugdude> yes, glitchd.
[19:40] <glitchd> Slugdude, it sounds like its using them bother then
[19:40] <glitchd> both*
[19:40] <baxt> I would start by swiping them over, then setting to only use one then only use the other.
[19:41] <glitchd> good advice^^
[19:43] <Slugdude> glitchd: here's what it looks like: http://imgur.com/R2Oa0ML
[19:44] <pjfl_pt> curl: (7) Failed to connect to GET port 1080: Connection refused
[19:44] <pjfl_pt> anyone with this error
[19:44] <glitchd> Slugdude, login the bring up the run dialog and paste this in "xfce4-display-settings --minimal"
[19:44] <glitchd> Slugdude, without the quotes
[19:44] <Slugdude> The second monitor (9400GT) doesn't show up in xrandr -q or system settings
[19:44] <glitchd> Slugdude, see if there are any optiouns to turn the other display on
[19:44] <tgm4883> pjfl_pt: you'll need to give more details than that. You're getting a connection refused, but without knowing what you are trying to curl nobody can help you
[19:45] <grumpy> HI
[19:45] <Alec_> Hello
[19:45] <Thrawn> okay i got the file i download to create the installation files but when i got to execute the installer and double click on it nothing happens. Any advice?
[19:45] <Thrawn> This is for TS 3 64 bit
[19:45] <Slugdude> I already did, there aren't. Only one display is listed in xrandr -q and system settings @glitchd
[19:45] <pjfl_pt> tgm4883> I am just send a normal curl request from the console
[19:45] <Slugdude> Also to clarify both cards are in lspci
[19:46] <pjfl_pt> curl -X GET "http:\\google.com"
[19:46] <Slugdude> Preeetty sure URLs use http:// pjfl_pt
[19:46] <Slugdude> Not \
[19:46] <tgm4883> pjfl_pt: you need // not \\
[19:46] <pjfl_pt> yes thats correct
[19:47] <pjfl_pt> but thats not the error
[19:47] <tgm4883> pjfl_pt: that also isn't the command you are using to get that error
[19:47] <glitchd> Slugdude, this may be above my paygrade..sry bud..
[19:47] <pjfl_pt> root@pjflopes:~# curl -x GET "https://google.com"
[19:47] <pjfl_pt> curl: (5) Could not resolve proxy: GET
[19:48] <OerHeks> curl & https, always fun
[19:48] <tgm4883> pjfl_pt: that's not the error you posted above...
[19:48] <pjfl_pt> and if I change to http i get the error curl: (7) Failed to connect to GET port 1080: Connection refused
[19:48] <Slugdude> Np glitchd
[19:48] <tgm4883> pjfl_pt: disable your proxy?
[19:48] <OerHeks> there is no http://www.google.com anymore, https only.
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> pjfl_pt  maybe it's the target that causes the error ... what's the exact file you're trying to download?
[19:49] <pjfl_pt> yes but the http always redirect to the https
[19:49] <OerHeks> pjfl_pt, good you found out
[19:50] <tgm4883> pjfl_pt: sounds like your computer is trying to proxy your curl through some proxy
[19:50] <tgm4883> pjfl_pt: sounds like your computer is trying to proxy your curl through some proxy
[19:51] <OerHeks> why does curl not work on https ? certificate ..
[19:51] <Alec_> I have the same curl error
[19:51] <glitchd> Slugdude,  you should also check if there are any additional drivers that can be activated
[19:51] <glitchd> Slugdude, System Settings -> Additional Drivers.
[19:52] <Alec_> -x is the same as --proxy
[19:52] <summerrain> i connected an external mouse to my notebook with ubuntu but its not working
[19:52] <summerrain> what should i do
[19:52] <Alec_> man curl
[19:52] <ioria> i think he wanted X not x
[19:52] <summerrain> what should i do ?
[19:52] <Slugdude> Glitchd: the only thing is switching from nouveau on the 9400GT to nvidia 340 which doesn't help at all.
[19:53] <OerHeks> pjfl_pt, try curl -k https://www.google.com
[19:53] <Alec_> OerHeks: He is gone
[19:53] <Alec_> Peace!
[19:53] <glitchd> Slugdude, maybe a reboot or a logout/login is required to activate it?
[19:54] <glitchd> Slugdude, after you select it i mean
[19:54] <tgm4883> ugh, this is why we want users to copy and paste the commands they are using...
[19:54] <Thrawn> thrawn@thrawn-GA-78LMT-S2:~/Downloads/TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64$ ts3client_runscript.sh
[19:54] <Thrawn> ts3client_runscript.sh: command not found
[19:54] <Thrawn> Help?
[19:55] <pavlos> script not executable
[19:55] <glitchd> Thrawn, navigate to the folder manually in terminal
[19:55] <Thrawn> okay
[19:55] <munta> Thrawn: chmod +x <file>
[19:56] <Rarrikins> Thrawn: ./whatever
[19:56] <glitchd> Thrawn, then try to use it, and do what that guy said ^^
[19:56] <munta> glitchd: :)
[19:56] <chyno> ppf: so i installed nvidia-361 after rebooting, there was an error http://pasteboard.co/92H2AfKUs.png  (not sure if relevant), but i'm not sure how to check if the installation was ok. when i change in nvidia-settings from intel to nvidia driver, it show a message that i should relog, but after relogging there is still the same intel driver selected
[19:57] <glitchd> munta, ..?
[19:58] <baxt> Ok guys go to the 4. Kernel info on kernel.org
[19:58] <baxt> Read the blerb. This might have answars for you.
[19:58] <munta> glitchd: sorry wrong person ...
[19:58] <glitchd> munta, lol np
[19:59] <munta> lol
[19:59] <ppf> chyno: lsmod | grep nvidia
[19:59] <OerHeks> baxt, bad kernel, don't use it.
[19:59] <ppf> but sounds like it wasn't successfully install
[19:59] <john_doe_jr> I would like to use aws to backup a remote computer but use the aws binary that is installed on 1 computer instead of installing the aws on every computer on my network…is that possible?
[19:59] <ppf> ed
[19:59] <Slugdude> Glitchd: I did reboot when I tried it
[19:59] <ppf> chyno: which compiler do you have installed?
[19:59] <chyno> ppf: no output
[19:59] <OerHeks> baxt, you will find out soon .. use the kernel from mainline, build for ubuntu
[20:00] <ppf> chyno: no output?
[20:01] <glitchd> Slugdude, ...so did it work, or not?
[20:01] <chyno> ppf: yes, no output... i actually installed gcc 4.8.5 because of doppia incompatibility issue (or old cuda, not sure)
[20:01] <ppf> chyno: no output on what?
[20:01] <chyno> lsmod | grep nvidia
[20:01] <ppf> -fstack-protector-strong is a feature thats in later gccs
[20:01] <ppf> go and grab a gcc5
[20:02] <Slugdude> Glitchd: no, it didn't.
[20:02] <ppf> (the dkms error you posted complained about that)
[20:02] <glitchd> what error message did it give?
[20:02] <ppf> install gcc5 and then reinstall the package
[20:03] <chyno> i only need to relink /usr/bin/gcc to gcc5, am i right? (sorry for dumb questions, i just want to be sure)
[20:03] <glitchd> Slugdude, sry bud, i confused you with another user...i still have no idea to get your 2 displays to work correctly
[20:04] <ppf> is it installed yest?
[20:04] <chyno> yes
[20:05] <Thrawn> ~/Downloads/TeamSpeak3-CLient-linux_amd64/ts3client_linux_amd64 ch mod +x
[20:05] <chyno> but /usr/bin/gcc and /usr/bin/g++ point to v4.8
[20:05] <Thrawn> bash: /home/thrawn/Downloads/TeamSpeak3-CLient-linux_amd64/ts3client_linux_amd64: No such file or directory
[20:05] <ppf> yeah, then resymlink it
[20:05] <Thrawn> still cant get this teamspeak to install
[20:05] <Thrawn> Please help
[20:05] <Gaming4LifeDE> hi. so i have a pc with an nvidia ethernet adapter on it and i can't connect. any ideas?
[20:06] <glitchd> Thrawn, the command would be chmod +x ts3lcient_linux_amd64
[20:06] <chyno> ppf: ok
[20:07] <glitchd> Thrawn, chmod is one word
[20:07] <chyno> ppf: should i reinstall the nvidia driver?
[20:07] <tomas__> clear
[20:07] <ppf> chyno: yes
[20:09] <Thrawn> @glitchd i have the exe file set to be executable via the properties option. When i double click that exe file nothing happens
[20:09] <Thrawn> It just sits there
[20:09] <ppf> Thrawn: run it in a terminal
[20:09] <glitchd> Thrawn, you downloaded an exe file to run in linux?
[20:10] <mist_> heya fellas my boot partition is full and i can't manage to purge it
[20:10] <glitchd> Thrawn, teamspeak has a linux version..
[20:10] <glitchd> Thrawn, no need to run the .exe
[20:10] <Thrawn> Ok i downloaded /home/thrawn/Desktop/TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64-3.0.19.4.run
[20:10] <ppf> wait, windows exe? as in PE/COFF?
[20:10] <ppf> Thrawn: that sounds good
[20:10] <Thrawn> which then turned into /home/thrawn/Downloads/TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64
[20:10] <glitchd> Thrawn, ok ill give you the command 1 sec
[20:11] <Thrawn> which is a folder inside my downloads folder
[20:11] <ppf> just start it in a terminal?
[20:11] <Thrawn> Ive been trying and i can't get it for some reason. Im new to linux so i don't know how to get the install started
[20:11] <meisth0th> hello
[20:11] <ppf> open a terminal
[20:11] <glitchd> Thrawn, inside the teamspeak folder, "./TeamSpeak3-Client-linux"
[20:12] <ppf> enter /home/thrawn/Downloads/TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64
[20:12] <glitchd> Thrawn, check you pm's
[20:12] <meisth0th> i've just installed 16.04 lts on my server, trying to get libapache2-mod-wsgi-py3 working. the latest version on repo is 4.3.0, but i am hitting a bug that is fixed on 4.5.2. is there a way to install 4.5.2?
[20:12] <john_doe_jr> what does the dash mean in the following command: "tar -cf - /path/to/backup/dir" ?
[20:13] <meisth0th> i don't want to compile the module myself
[20:13] <ppf> stdout
[20:13] <ppf> @john_doe_jr
[20:14] <meisth0th> anybody? :(
[20:14] <nacc> meisth0th: file a bug? note that debian has 4.5.7 only in unstable
[20:15] <meisth0th> nacc: this is a server i need to get working in like 5 hours. so, for now, i am on search of a workaround.
[20:15] <meisth0th> a ppa or sth
[20:23] <Justme__> can anyone help me with updating from 14.04 to 16.04?
[20:23] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | Justme__
[20:23] <glitchd> Justme__, insert disc, install.
[20:24] <grumpy>  i am having a sound issue when i start pepermintos 7 its not reconizing then hdmi sound i have to unplug and replug the hdmi to get sound
[20:24] <mist_> heya fellas i've come across a problem. my boot partition is full and i'm not able to use apt-get purge
[20:25] <k1l> mist remove the old kernel package with dpkg
[20:27] <elisa87> please have a look at my question http://stackoverflow.com/questions/39779363/i-tensorflow-core-common-runtime-gpu-gpu-init-cc81-no-gpu-devices-available-on
[20:28] <afiefh> How can I upgrade from 16.04.1 to 16.10? `sudo do-release-upgrade -d` says that no new release was found
[20:28] <tgm4883> afiefh: that's a dev release
[20:28] <mist_> k1l: http://pastebin.com/4c2ChXpc
[20:29] <afiefh> tgm4883: I am aware of that, been testing them since 2006 but for some reason the upgrade manager seems to be unable to find it this time, even using the "-d" flag which is supposed to fetch the devel release
[20:31] <OerHeks> elisa87, this page mentions 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-modprobe' https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/issues/394
[20:31] <k1l> mist_: try with --force-depends
[20:33] <elisa87> OerHeks: http://pastebin.com/Fu5qvm5Z
[20:33] <OerHeks> Then i have no clue, could be gcc version, library path,..
[20:33] <elisa87> mona@pascal:~$ modinfo nvidia
[20:33] <elisa87> modinfo: ERROR: Module nvidia not found. OerHeks
[20:34] <ppf> elisa87: forgot to install the gpu drivers?
[20:34] <mist_> thank you k1l, i removed a few manually and let autoremove get rid of the rest
[20:35] <k1l> mist_: yep. just get enough space to get apt working, then use apt to get rid of the old kernels
[20:35] <tgm4883> afiefh: sorry in a meeting. Is your system set to LTS only?
[20:36] <elisa87> ppf: I did install
[20:36] <k1l> afiefh: make sure your release prompt is not set to LTS.
[20:37] <afiefh> tgm4883, k1l: Thanks, it was set for LTS only without me realizing
[20:37] <k1l> afiefh: afaik, that is the standard on lts
[20:38] <chyno> ppf: thanks! nvidia driver is now running, i would like to know whether cuda8 is compatible with my installation (nvidia-361)?
[20:38] <chyno> ppf: i will try to install cuda7 with runfile installer
[20:38] <afiefh> k1l:  funny... I thought I had this system for a few years without a fresh install... must have done a fresh install at some point without realizing it
[20:39] <k1l> afiefh: no, iirc that is reset if you upgrade to a LTS
[20:39] <chyno> ppf: but when i tried install it via deb (local/network) there was no success
[20:39] <afiefh> k1l: oh that explains it
[20:40] <ppf> chyno: why
[20:42] <elisa87> why do I keep receiving this error "E: Failed to fetch http://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/cuda/repos/ubuntu1404/x86_64/./nvidia-modprobe_352.99-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb: Size mismatch" when using this command? sudo aptitude install cuda
[20:42] <chyno> ppf: deb+network will not add anything to sources.list.d or sources.list
[20:44] <Eightynine> What should I install? Xubuntu or Ubuntu GNOME? I'm using a quad core AMD processor, 4 GB RAM and Radeon HD6750
[20:44] <ppf> chyno: okay
[20:44] <Rarrikins> elisa87: Try `sudo apt update`, then retry.
[20:45] <ppf> Eightynine: whichever you like better? that machine is capable of either
[20:45] <Eightynine> I don't know. I need a handy system. XFCE is more simple and GNOME is unusable without Tweak Tool.
[20:46] <elisa87> Rarrikins: I get these errors when I run sudo apt-get update
[20:46] <elisa87> http://pastebin.com/GauqUUBd Rarrikins
[20:46] <chyno> ppf: ok, i'm bit confused
[20:46] <k1l> Eightynine: its your choice. if you are not sure you can install both desktops and test it when switching on the login screen
[20:48] <Eightynine> I'm currently using XFCE on OpenSUSE and when scrolling mouse wheel system is switching desktops and can hide windows and only window titles remain. Does it work like this on Xubuntu? I don't need this.
[20:49] <elisa87> how should I fix this error? W: GPG error: http://developer.download.nvidia.com  Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F60F4B3D7FA2AF80
[20:50] <Rarrikins> elisa87: Try ``wget -q -O - http://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/cuda/repos/GPGKEY | apt-key add -`
[20:50] <Rarrikins> elisa87: Sorry, with sudo.
[20:50] <Rarrikins> elisa87: Run `sudo -i`, then that.
[20:51] <Eightynine> Do you know when will be next XFCE release?
[20:51] <elisa87> Rarrikins: didn't fix. still get this error mona@pascal:~$ wget -q -O - http://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/cuda/repos/GPGKEY | sudo apt-key add - OK
[20:51] <[Gort]> Eightynine, that's configurable in Xfce's settings. You need to find Settings and then look for window management and desktop. I haven't used Xfce for over a year, so can't point exactly where those settings are, but they're there.
[20:51] <Rarrikins> elisa87: After you get OK, does `sudo apt update` work?
[20:52] <elisa87> no it doesn't Rarrikins Reading package lists... Done W: GPG error: http://developer.download.nvidia.com  Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F60F4B3D7FA2AF80
[20:52] <Eightynine> [Gort]: do you use Unity or what?
[20:52] <bekks> elisa87: Can you pastebin the entire ouput of "sudo apt update" pleasE?
[20:53] <bekks> elisa87: Because the output above is a warning only.
[20:53] <Rarrikins> Eightynine: They come out very slowly. 4.10 came out in April 2012. 4.12 came out in February 2015.
[20:53] <chyno> ppf: ok, it shows that it is installed, but i was used to search for the lib and includes in /usr/local/cuda-*, but there is nothing now
[20:53] <[Gort]> yeah, I do. Now thinking about it, I have Xfce on a Debian install on a virtual machine, but that's on my Windows system (on Ubuntu 16.04 now)
[20:54] <[Gort]> Eightynine, but when I did use Xfce regularly, those settings were ones I changed.
[20:54] <elisa87> bekks:  Rarrikins http://pastebin.com/TtLB6ZVX
[20:54] <Eightynine> I like that XFCE is simple and takes twice less than Gnome.
[20:55] <chyno> but it can also be some mismatch beacuse of output of apt-install
[20:55] <chyno> Note, selecting 'libcuda-7.0-1' for regex 'cuda-7.0' Note, selecting 'libcuda1-361' instead of 'libcuda-7.0-1'
[20:55] <chyno> ppf
[20:55] <[Gort]> yeah, it was great on my previous system which was quite old. Ran fine even on a P4 with 1GB of RAM.
[20:55] <Rarrikins> elisa87: I searched for that NO_PUBKEY message on Google, and what shows up as the only result? Your paste just now.
[20:56] <ppf> chyno: what exactly did you install?
[20:57] <ppf> you need the driver (that's libcuda), and the cuda sdk (/usr/local/cuda
[20:57] <ppf> )
[20:57] <chyno> cuda-7.0 with added deb+local package
[20:58] <ppf> https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-toolkit
[20:58] <ppf> they call it toolkit now
[20:58] <ppf> "now"
[20:59] <Wicaeed> Is there any way to make modprobe.d config changes take affect immediately (or without rebooting)? I'm trying to lock down the RPC NFS lockd process to use a certain tcp/udp port in nfs_lockd.conf file under modprobe.d, however the changes aren't picked up following a restart of the rpcbind service.
[20:59] <Wicaeed> Everything I've read says you need to reboot the client machine in order to make that happen
[20:59] <Wicaeed> What's the reason behind that?
[21:00] <chyno> ppf: yes, i downloaded deb+local package from https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-toolkit-70
[21:01] <chyno> ppf: but it seems to me that only the lib was installed
[21:04] <ppf> did it install  cuda-toolkit-7 as well?
[21:06] <chyno> ppf: not sure, this is the output of `sudo dpkg --get-selections  | grep cuda` : http://pastebin.com/Z3vv0UWd
[21:07] <ppf> right
[21:07] <ppf> apt update && apt install cuda-7-0
[21:08] <ppf> or cuda-7, don't know what the correct name is
[21:08] <OerHeks> bug 1628687
[21:09] <k1l> OerHeks: that is the todays famous systemd bug?
[21:09] <OerHeks> k1l, jups
[21:09] <k1l> ok
[21:10] <chyno> ppf: apt install cuda hints only this : http://pastebin.com/T4LAGb2c
[21:10] <chyno> and Unable to locate package cuda-7-0
[21:11] <chyno> they are usually named this way
[21:11] <ppf> then something didn't go right in your install
[21:12] <ppf> why not install 8?
[21:12] <ppf> apt install cuda-toolkit-8-0
[21:12] <idoko> OerHeks, i thought a patch was released like an hour after that post made rounds
[21:12] <ppf> idoko: the patch was bad
[21:12] <OerHeks> idoko, correct, http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3094-1/
[21:13] <OerHeks> but the vuln is not fixed complete
[21:13] <OerHeks> bugreport says we need to wait for upstream, instead of opening new cve
[21:13] <chyno> ppf: not sure if it is supported by my driver (361) and last time i have found it out after recompilation of all sources (opencv + doppia) and that takes like an hour or so
[21:14] <idoko> oerheks, oh i see...
[21:14] <ppf> you did run apt update, right?
[21:15] <chyno> yes, sure
[21:16] <ppf> i suggest try toolkit-8 or download the 7(.5) .run installer
[21:18] <chyno> ppk: thanks, i will try. and there is any refrence to minimum version of driver needed for these cuda toolkits?
[21:20] <ppf> i'm running 7.5 with 352
[21:21] <ppf> but that's why it's preferable to install the packages, they depend on appropriate drivers
[21:24] <esuarez> !push 23768
[21:26] <elisa87> any hint to have me fix this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/831355/failed-to-initialize-nvml-driver-library-version-mismatch
[21:29] <ppf> elisa87: did you try to uninstall 352?
[21:31] <ppf> elisa87: actually, can you show us the contents of /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-352_hybrid.conf?
[21:34] <ppf> if that file contains a modprobe, delete it or move it someplace else
[21:35] <craigbass76> I've got an rsync script running. Is there a way, if the network conks out, for it to resume itself with a switch in the rsync command, or have I got to cough up some sort of script? I'm currently running rsync -azOP user@remote_box:/directory /local/directory/
[21:36] <craigbass76> I'm also listening to a John Pizzarelli concert on youtube, but I'm not sure if that will help...
[21:38] <maddawg1> offtopic
[21:50] <NomadJim> does ubuntu come with a swap file already configured? I'm running a 2GB vm that is getting an "virtual memory exhausted: Cannot allocate memory" and I'm about to make a new swap disk but don't want to make one if it's alreadythere but too small
[21:50] <NomadJim> 14.04 LTS
[21:50] <k1l> NomadJim: no
[21:51] <NomadJim> ty
[21:51] <bekks> NomadJim: How much RAM does your host have?
[21:51] <NomadJim> 16GB
[21:51] <bekks> NomadJim: So thats not the underlying issue.
[21:51] <k1l> NomadJim: you can look at "swapon -s"
[21:52] <bekks> NomadJim: Which kind of vm, which hypervisor? And where exactly do you get that error?
[21:52] <NomadJim> thx sawpon -s is empty
[21:52] <NomadJim> virtualbox
[21:52] <NomadJim> I'm getting it after doing a pip install scipy
[21:52] <bekks> NomadJim: Inside the VM?
[21:52] <NomadJim> ya
[21:52] <bekks> NomadJim: So configure more RAM for your VM.
[21:53] <NomadJim> would rathe rkeep it the same and have a swap file for the install
[21:53] <chyno> ppf: many thanks! it seems that everything is properly installed and the driver was updated because of cuda8 dependency. thanks again for your time and patience
[21:54] <bekks> NomadJim: So you need a swapfile in your VM.
[22:04] <achtung_mike> Has anyone seen the following situation.  A tmpfs is mounted say at /data/export/tmp and there is an LV mounted at / and when you do a df -h for the entire system the LV mounted at / shows usage against it (thinks there is more disk usage than there is) bc of the tmpfs mounted below it in the hierarchy?
[22:14] <crypto0> what kind of crypto 727 wew wwelncpa wcvb lihgqevw wq wigligs wew vevvenqwpv
[22:19] <nicomachus> lol ok
[22:28] <MahatmaAndi> Hi there... is there anyone who can help me?
[22:28] <MahatmaAndi> i used ubuntu gnome 14.04.3 and it was good. stable.
[22:28] <MahatmaAndi> couple weeks ago i upgraded to 16.04.1 and it just crashes and freezes randomly since
[22:28] <MahatmaAndi> is there anything i can do to fix that?
[22:28] <MahatmaAndi> its just disappointing and there is no fun to work with that system anymore
[22:29] <MahatmaAndi> asked in #ubuntu-gnome but no answers there
[22:29] <nacc> MahatmaAndi: 14.04.3 (fwiw) is eol, you need to be on 14.04.5 at this point
[22:29] <nacc> MahatmaAndi: it's not normal that you see random crashes or freezes
[22:29] <nacc> MahatmaAndi: do you have any logs or suspicions?
[22:30] <korEn3tz> quit
[22:30] <MahatmaAndi> maybe.. where do i get logs
[22:31] <k1l> MahatmaAndi: depends on what is happening exactly. is it a hardware/driver issue? or is it a software issue?
[22:32] <MahatmaAndi> software i think.. like i said. in 14.04 all worked well
[22:32] <MahatmaAndi> and it freezed about 15 minutes ago
[22:32] <MahatmaAndi> meens... i could not do anything except mooving the mouse
[22:32] <nacc> if you can move the mouse then it's not frozen
[22:33] <nacc> well, not fully
[22:33] <nacc> MahatmaAndi: can you drop to a terminal shell (ctrl + alt + f2)
[22:33] <MahatmaAndi> and go with ctrl+alt+f1 to another terminal to sudo reboot
[22:33] <nacc> MahatmaAndi: oh and you can?
[22:33] <nacc> MahatmaAndi: then again, it's not frozen ...
[22:33] <double_face> Hi all
[22:33] <MahatmaAndi> but i cant do anything else
[22:33] <gnome> link for a hack blog in deep?
[22:33] <gnome> please
[22:34] <double_face> how i can downgrade in a ubuntu 16.04 machine from version 47.0 to version 36 of curl
[22:34] <double_face> to remove it's just apt-get remove curl
[22:34] <nacc> double_face: you can't
[22:34] <nacc> double_face: why do you think you want to?
[22:34] <double_face> a ssl issue
[22:35] <k1l> gnome: we dont support that in here.
[22:35] <FreeFog> HI sorry to bother i'm tring to setup my ubuntu pc, and im unsure about my SSD compatibility , using Kubuntu 16.04 kernet 4.4 and Crucial M550, which apears black listed on https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/e64f638483a21105c7ce330d543fa1f1c35b5bc7/drivers/ata/libata-core.c#L4109-L4286
[22:35] <nacc> double_face: what ssl issue?
[22:35] <double_face> https://sourceforge.net/p/curl/bugs/1319/
[22:35] <double_face> I have the same probelm in version 47
[22:36] <MahatmaAndi> so maybe its not called "frozen"... but something happens so that the system does not respond to mouse-clicks and keyboard
[22:36] <double_face> and because I have some php curl request in the server and they are important to us I need to downgrade
[22:37] <nacc> MahatmaAndi: except you said it let you go to the shell
[22:37] <OerHeks> FreeFog, old issue, already fixed
[22:37] <Penguin900> Can anyone here help me with a weird problem I am having with a aufs mount?
[22:37] <nacc> MahatmaAndi: so you mean the windowing environment has crashed?
[22:37] <MahatmaAndi> nacc: yeah right
[22:38] <FreeFog> OerHeks, Whats the proper way to check SSD issues? should I specify TRIM on fstab?
[22:38] <FreeFog> OerHeks, Thanks in advance
[22:39] <OerHeks> !trim
[22:39] <OerHeks> no need for any tweaking anymore, FreeFog
[22:39] <MahatmaAndi> nacc: it would help, if i at least could do something withour rebooting every time it happens. so that all programs stay open
[22:39] <MahatmaAndi> *without
[22:40] <nacc> MahatmaAndi: we'd need to know what's crashing (things like journalctl, dmesg, etc. woudl help)
[22:40] <FreeFog> Last SSD question, I do use tmpfs, checking the devian manual there is a note activating RAMTMP, RAMRUN and RAMLOCK o "yes" (in /etc/default/rcS or /etc/default/tmpfs since Wheezy), but I see no such structure
[22:41] <drjuls> nacc: Hello! the only way I could make the mouse work was creating an executable file with the commands, and opening every time began: /
[22:41] <double_face> for example I have two server with the same code and the curl version is difrent. in the older version works, and in the new version fail
[22:42] <double_face> and the reqeust is the same
[22:42] <double_face>   https://api.fleetclaims.net/app/api/test/info.php
[22:42] <double_face> https://testwysi.gq/curl.php
[22:43] <FreeFog> SSD when editing I see no /etc/default/tmpfs file, I'm concerned if I should create 1 or edit rcS or manually specify the tmpfs on fstab
[22:43] <nacc> double_face: and you're sure you're using the right optoins to e.g., curl_setopt in php? Note that i fixed (well rejected) a bug someone else filed that was similar
[22:43] <nacc> double_face: LP: #1594793
[22:44] <Jordan_U> FreeFog: You're usisng tmpfs for /tmp/ or something else? You should only need to configure it in /etc/fstab. Also, I don't see how this relates to use of an SSD (unless you're worried about exessive writes, which you probably shouldn't be with a modern ssd).
[22:44] <nacc> double_face: are you able to curl (not php curl) by hand on both servers?
[22:45] <double_face> in the server with version 35 yes
[22:45] <double_face> in the other npo
[22:45] <double_face> and yes the code is exacly the same
[22:46] <nacc> double_face: not the code (no php), just `curl` ... can you pastebin `curl -v <url>` from both?
[22:46] <nacc> double_face: i assume php7?
[22:46] <double_face> when i do the call from the server with the version 45 i get the error
[22:46] <double_face> curl: (35) gnutls_handshake() failed: Error in the pull function.
[22:46] <double_face> yes
[22:46] <double_face> is php 7
[22:47] <blackghost> hey
[22:47] <nacc> double_face: can you pastebin the full `curl -v` output?
[22:48] <nacc> double_face: actually wait, that's weird
[22:48] <MMan> Hello there... is there a way to get the entire distr as iso image ? DVD or something ?
[22:48] <double_face> curl 7.47.0 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) libcurl/7.47.0 GnuTLS/3.4.10 zlib/1.2.8 libidn/1.32 librtmp/2.3
[22:48] <double_face> Protocols: dict file ftp ftps gopher http https imap imaps ldap ldaps pop3 pop3s rtmp rtsp smb smbs smtp smtps telnet tftp
[22:48] <double_face> Features: AsynchDNS IDN IPv6 Largefile GSS-API Kerberos SPNEGO NTLM NTLM_WB SSL libz TLS-SRP UnixSockets
[22:48] <double_face> yes
[22:48] <nacc> double_face: pastebin not in the channel
[22:48] <double_face> thats the server with problems
[22:48] <FreeFog> SSD Jordan_U : Even if modern ssd arent a problem, it just makes sense for me to move /tmp /run/lock and /var/spool
[22:48] <double_face> curl 7.36.0 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) libcurl/7.36.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1f zlib/1.2.8 libidn/1.28
[22:48] <double_face> Protocols: dict file ftp ftps gopher http https imap imaps ldap ldaps pop3 pop3s rtsp smtp smtps telnet tftp
[22:48] <double_face> Features: AsynchDNS GSS-Negotiate IDN IPv6 Largefile NTLM NTLM_WB SSL libz TLS-SRP
[22:48] <nacc> double_face: *pastebin*
[22:49] <nacc> !pastebin | double_face
[22:49] <FreeFog> SSD : but instead of editing fstab Debian manual recommends changing 3 variables
[22:49] <MahatmaAndi> nacc: the full output of journalctl and dmesg? thats a lot..
[22:49] <nacc> MahatmaAndi: well, relevant output, probably
[22:50] <nacc> double_face: while not exactly the same, i just spun up a 16.04 container: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23253285/
[22:51] <nacc> double_face: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23253289/
[22:51] <double_face> http://pastebin.com/EBnpWbH4
[22:51] <nacc> double_face: --^ with that version
[22:51] <nacc> double_face: your second server (working) is using openssl
[22:51] <nacc> double_face: what OS is it?
[22:52] <zupern00b> hello, some  releases ago I remember having an option in the ubuntu installer that allowed you to install windows and ubuntu side-by-side without having to do manual partitioning. Is it not the case any longer? BTW I'm trying to install 16.04 in dual boot with an oldish version of Windows 7
[22:52] <MahatmaAndi> nacc: well.. so i need to know whats the relevant part.. somehow. Is there a description where i can get that? not how to use the programs but whats the "relevant" part :)
[22:52] <nacc> double_face: but as you can see from my pastes, my 16.04 of the same version as yours is able to connect
[22:52] <double_face> one is ubunto 16.04 the server 1, and the otehr is 14.04
[22:52] <nacc> MahatmaAndi: pastebin the whole thing and we can help
[22:53] <double_face> and I have notice that the second server is using openssl and teh otehr one package I don't know to be honest
[22:54] <Bashing-om> zupern00b: The option is "install along side" is still there . However, the 4 primary partition limit applies !
[22:54] <FreeFog> zupern00b , EFI or MBR Windows 7?
[22:54] <Jordan_U> FreeFog: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/01/20/data-driven-analysis-tmp-on-tmpfs/ says that only the fstab entry is needed, and I see no reason anything else should be needed.
[22:54] <zupern00b> MBR probably, it's a machine from 2010 I think
[22:54] <FreeFog> THanks A lot Jordan_U
[22:54] <double_face> I get connections to some server but for some specific server I get ther error of the ssl
[22:55] <Jordan_U> FreeFog: You're welcome.
[22:55] <zupern00b> FreeFog: probably MBR
[22:55] <nacc> double_face: you mean by IP? or by hostname? as I tried to the server you showed me as erroring it seemed to work?
[22:55] <FreeFog> Jordan_U what I gonna tmpfs is /var/run /var/lock /tmp and spool
[22:55] <MahatmaAndi> nacc: dmsg : http://pastebin.com/JQCVT8q0
[22:55] <zupern00b> Bashing-om: really? the installer goes just "Erase entire disk", encryption, LVM or "Try something else" onnly to me
[22:55] <double_face> by hostname
[22:56] <zupern00b> Bashing-om: but then I haven't counted the partitions. I never saw this problem before tbh
[22:56] <nacc> double_face: are you trying to force sslv3?
[22:56] <MahatmaAndi> nacc: journalctl from last 50 minutes: http://pastebin.com/MnkYGcKv
[22:56] <Jordan_U> zupern00b: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" and "[ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS" .
[22:57] <FreeFog> zupern00b : it also depends on the parittion table, if it is gpt u can have more than 4 primary
[22:57] <Bashing-om> zupern00b: In the live environmentl terminal command 'sudo fdisk -lu ' and count the partitions present . Best I recall, if there is not partitions available for the installer to install ., the install alongside option is not available .
[22:57] <FreeFog> zupern00b there are ways to modify the disk and disk partitions but they are super risky
[22:58] <double_face> nacc: yes.
[22:59] <double_face> this page don't will display nothing but if you try what result you get?
[22:59] <double_face> https://licences.fleetclaims.net/oAuth/token/renewAccess.php
[22:59] <zupern00b> Jordan_U: looks like it's BIOS! http://paste.ubuntu.com/23253300/
[23:00] <nacc> double_face: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23253303/
[23:01] <nacc> double_face: worked fine in 14.04, 16.04 and 16.10
[23:01] <nacc> double_face: did you provide `curl -v` or `curl -v -3` output trying to access that URL from your not working server?
[23:01] <nacc> double_face: not curl --version, but verbose curl
[23:01] <Jordan_U> zupern00b: "Warning: The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes." Ubuntu's installer doesn't handle errors from libparted gracefully at all, so this is probably why you're not seeing the "install alongside" option.
[23:02] <zupern00b> Bashing-om: hmm... I count only three partitions on /dev/sda, which is the HDD with only one windows install. perhaps the linux swap would add a fourth on it that's why?
[23:02] <double_face> just the curl -v
[23:02] <zupern00b> oh Jordan_U, perhaps that's why? :(
[23:02] <nacc> double_face: that's curl -V you provided
[23:02] <nacc> double_face: i'm specifically asking for curl -v
[23:03] <nacc> double_face: (lower v)
[23:03] <nacc> double_face: as in verbose output of the curl that fails
[23:03] <zupern00b> Jordan_U: if that's the case are there any workarounds? Or should I just partition the disk myself with GParted?
[23:03] <nacc> double_face: but as you can see from my 3 setups, curl is using SSLv3 just fine?
[23:03] <Jordan_U> zupern00b: GParted is just as ungraceful, and will just show the disk as being empty.
[23:04] <zupern00b> FreeFog: IIRC partitioning isn't too hard, as long as you put the root, home and swap in there. I know there are a few guides, but do you have any in mind that teach how to do it manually?
[23:05] <hwaetwegear> If I install the beta release of yakkety, will it automatically upgrade to the LTS in two weeks?
[23:05] <Bashing-om> zupern00b: should be in that case that the installer will make up a "extended" partition, and in this extended partition make up 2 logical partitions  to install the system to . Humm . sorta lost now as to why the option is not offered .
[23:05] <zupern00b> Jordan_U: oh darn. Looks like I'm out of options then?
[23:05] <nacc> hwaetwegear: yakkety is *not* LTS
[23:05] <double_face> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23253311/
[23:05] <MahatmaAndi> nacc: could you find something usefull?
[23:06] <hwaetwegear> nacc: I know it isn't atm, but will the beta version update to the final version if I install it now, or will I need to do a full clean reinstall in two weeks?
[23:06] <nacc> hwaetwegear: no, yakkety is *not* an LTS release
[23:06] <nacc> hwaetwegear: nothing "atm" about it
[23:06] <FreeFog> zupern00b : I generally do it manually =), I go gpt, then create absurdly big EFI and mycrosoft system reserved partitions (512MiBs each)
[23:06] <double_face> nacc yes.. and your version is the same as mine strange
[23:06] <FreeFog> zupern00b but the mos timportant remark is to install the boot loader on /sda1 , on the efi partition with windows
[23:07] <zupern00b> Bashing-om: yeah, I had never seen this thing either. Thought it was the ubuntu installer having removed the option starting from some of the newer editions
[23:07] <hwaetwegear> nacc: Oh, my bad. Please excuse my ignorance. I should have asked if it will update to the stable version.
[23:07] <nacc> hwaetwegear: yakkety will of course be yakkety when it releases, whether you installed at beta or dist-upgrade from xenial -- but in either case it's not LTS
[23:07] <nacc> hwaetwegear: well, depending on what you mean by 'stable'
[23:07] <zupern00b> tbh I haven't dual booted in a few years myself
[23:07] <FreeFog> zupern00b : and to remove the 4 primary partition limits u need gpt partition table
[23:07] <nacc> double_face: yeah, very strange, i'm reading what you pasted
[23:07] <nacc> MahatmaAndi: nothing is sticking out :/
[23:07] <double_face> thanks
[23:07] <hwaetwegear> nacc: I mean the final, consumer version
[23:07] <FreeFog> zupern00b : there is some extra complications if u want LVM but nothing super hard
[23:07] <Jordan_U> zupern00b: I'm honestly a little surprised that you're getting this error message and I don't understand why you are. Is this possibly a new drive that was image copied from an older drive?
[23:08] <nacc> hwaetwegear: yes, betas are just points in time
[23:08] <zupern00b> FreeFog: thanks, I will keep these tips in mind. Doesn't the installer put grub automagically there in the end, though?
[23:08] <nacc> double_face: can you run that agin with 'GNUTLS_DEBUG_LEVEL=6' set in the env?
[23:08] <zupern00b> Jordan_U: yeah, It's the first time I'm getting these too
[23:08] <hwaetwegear> nacc: but will it automatically upgrade to the final version when it is release, or will I need to download the iso and start the whole process over again?
[23:08] <MahatmaAndi> nacc: okay.. thanks anyway
[23:09] <nacc> !final | hwaetwegear
[23:09] <hwaetwegear> nacc: I am asking b/c I am a new user who need yakkety for the polaris support, but I'm wondering if it would be a waste of time to install it now.
[23:09] <zupern00b> Jordan_U: this computer has never been reinstalled or had any major changes to its disk. It's the same thing all the way since it was purchased in 2010 ish
[23:09] <hwaetwegear> nacc: OK, thanks. That's the info I was looking for.
[23:10] <zupern00b> Jordan_U: I didn't know that HDDs could also have compatibility issues with some linux distros. I guess I just TIL'd it
[23:11] <nacc> hwaetwegear: just to be clear, i think the question implies a misapprehension of what an ubuntu release is :) yakkety is a stream basically. You can join the stream whenever you want (well presuming it's open), it will be 'released' at some point, and then 'eol'd at some point. A 'beta' is just a fixed point in the stream close to the 'release'
[23:11] <Jordan_U> zupern00b: This isn't a distro specific problem, and I now see that the error is related to your USB drive, which makes much more sense.
[23:12] <zupern00b> Jordan_U: the USB drive? Where I've put the LiveCD?
[23:13] <zupern00b> Jordan_U: perhaps a badly-burnt CD Image?
[23:13] <Jordan_U> zupern00b: Yes. It makes total sense because the drive has a large block size but the iso file is designed for 512 byte sectors.
[23:14] <Jordan_U> zupern00b: Please check if Gparted Does or does not list the partitions on your internal drive properly.
[23:15] <double_face> nacc How I can change the value of the var?
[23:15] <zupern00b> Jordan_U: weird, Gparted keeps crashing
[23:16] <nacc> double_face: e.g., `GNUTLS_DEBUG_LEVEL=99 curl -v -3 https://licences.fleetclaims.net/oAuth/token/renewAccess.php`
[23:16] <zupern00b> Jordan_U: perhaps one more reason to suspect that the LiveUSB was badly burnt?
[23:16] <FreeFog> zupern00b : generally the default option is to install the boot loader on sda and not sda1, the first being a tiny sector on the disk, I strongly recommend ya using the installer on a USB stick and run sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade BEFORE installing
[23:17] <FreeFog> zupern00b : then restart the live USB and peform the install
[23:18] <Jordan_U> zupern00b: It's not neccessarrily badly written (the verb burn only applies to optical media).
[23:18] <Bashing-om> zupern00b: In the boot options screen of the liveUSB is " check disk for defects" .
[23:19] <zupern00b1> Bashing-om: right, that would check the Computer's disk or the liveCD?
[23:20] <double_face> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23253354/
[23:20] <double_face> thanks
[23:20] <zupern00b1> Bashing-om: (sorry, but to me it sounds a little ambiguous)
[23:21] <zupern00b1> FreeFog: thanks for the tips! Last case scenario I will go manual partitioning
[23:22] <elkclone> feh
[23:22] <zupern00b> Jordan_U: ok, maybe it's not badly written. Could be a compatibility problem between Ubuntu and the device-handling capabilities of this computer then?
[23:24] <Bashing-om> zupern00b: The "check disk for defects" checks the install medium .
[23:26] <nacc> double_face: hrm, i really don't know -- you might need to file a bug
[23:26] <nacc> double_face: it's really strange that i can't reproduce the exact output you're getting
[23:30] <zupern00b> Bashing-om: ok thanks, I'll try that later :)
[23:31] <Bashing-om> zupern00b: :)
[23:31] <double_face> nacc I think the problem is related with this
[23:31] <double_face> There was a non-CA certificate in the trusted list:
[23:31] <elisa87> please have a look http://askubuntu.com/questions/831386/gpgkeys-key-f60f4b3d7fa2af80-not-found-on-keyserver
[23:32] <nacc> double_face: ah ... that could affect it
[23:33] <mrb101> Hey, I need help with rendering some fonts characters showing up as squares in Terminal and Vim. Anyone can help ?
[23:33] <nacc> double_face: not sure, but it might be worth trying to fix that
[23:36] <secretdude0> what's up ubuntu-ers!! :D :D
[23:37] <Bashing-om> elisa87: Checking : "gpg --search-key F60F4B3D7FA2AF80 >> gpg: searching for "F60F4B3D7FA2AF80" from hkp server keys.gnupg.net >> gpg: key "F60F4B3D7FA2AF80" not found on keyserver " .
[23:38] <nacc> double_face: i was hoping it would be something more obvious, but if that doesn't work, I would file a bug. curl is pretty core so i think it'd get some attention
[23:39] <double_face> thanks nacc
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[23:58] <nacc> double_face: np, sorry i couldn't be of more direct help