[00:44] <Not_a_Robot> Guys can you help me? I can't set a wallpaper. I apply the change but nothing... Any idea, please? The wallpaper is just black screen..
[01:30] <Zren> Not_a_Robot, When you right click, do you get a menu?
[01:34] <Not_a_Robot> Zren: yes, yes. I change it there, but nothing happens (I use an external monitor). I would like to find another  way, maybe using the terminal or something, I don't know.
[01:35] <Zren> Ah, so you don't get a right click menu when you click on that monitor's "wallpaper"?
[01:35] <Zren> Sounds like plasmashell crashed then.
[01:37] <Zren> kquitapp plasmashell; plasmashell & disown
[01:37] <Zren> Not_a_Robot,
[01:37] <Zren> Oh I totally misunderstood, you do get a menu
[01:37] <Not_a_Robot> Zren: I get the menu, yes.
[01:37] <Zren> hmmm
[01:37] <Not_a_Robot> What I say is that setting the wallpaper there
[01:37] <Not_a_Robot> does not work
[01:38] <Not_a_Robot> Ah ok, sorry xD
[01:38] <Zren> what filetype? Not_a_Robot
[01:38] <Not_a_Robot> both png and jpg
[01:38] <Zren> wallpaper type = Image
[01:38] <Zren> positiong = ?
[01:39] <Zren> is the file on a different drive? (grasping at straws)
[01:39] <Not_a_Robot> http://uploadpie.com/2YwqC
[01:39] <Not_a_Robot> Is not related to the files, really.
[01:40] <Not_a_Robot> The issue is related to plasma or whatever because this is a problem I didn't have before
[01:40] <Not_a_Robot> weeks ago I had wallpapers
[01:40] <Zren> have you relogged since this occured?
[01:40] <Not_a_Robot> yes
[01:40] <Not_a_Robot> rebooted, etc
[01:40] <Zren> so it's persistent, odd
[01:41] <Zren> try changing to folder view
[01:41] <Not_a_Robot> I updated the system too but nothing
[01:41] <Not_a_Robot> ok
[01:41] <Zren> Layout = folder
[01:42] <Not_a_Robot> Meh... nothing ^^' I tried everything before asking xDD
[01:42] <Not_a_Robot> Do you know
[01:42] <Not_a_Robot> if there is a file
[01:42] <Not_a_Robot> where I can set the wallpaper manually?
[01:43] <Zren> ~/.config/org.kde.plasma-applets or some such
[01:43] <Zren> is where it's saved
[01:43] <Zren> but you'd need to edit it while plasma isn't running for it to take effect
[01:43] <Not_a_Robot> Oh,,,
[01:43] <Zren> since it writes tot it on save
[01:44] <Zren> yeaaaaaah. tis annoying.
[01:44] <Zren> open it in your text editor, then run kquitapp plasmashell
[01:45] <Zren> then: plasmashell & disown (after you save)
[01:45] <Zren> ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc
[01:49] <Zren> tbh Not_a_Robot, you have multiple monitors right?
[01:49] <Not_a_Robot> I have an 17" laptop and a 55" UHD monitor
[01:50] <Not_a_Robot> but I don't use the laptop screen
[01:50] <Not_a_Robot> I just disable it
[01:52] <Zren> Just checking, but the contents of your ~/Desktop folder are now shown on the desktop right?
[01:53] <Zren> Does reenabling the other screen show your wallpaper?
[01:53] <Not_a_Robot> Nope and nope
[01:53] <Not_a_Robot> xD
[01:53] <Not_a_Robot> In the past
[01:53] <Not_a_Robot> what I did was
[01:53] <Zren> I know there was a few screen related problems in kde.
[01:53] <Not_a_Robot> to set the main screen on the laptop
[01:53] <Not_a_Robot> and then change it again
[01:54] <Not_a_Robot> and the wallpaper issue was solved
[01:54] <Not_a_Robot> but now, even that, is not enough
[01:54] <Not_a_Robot> Thank you Zren for your help and time, I really appreciate it
 Hi... Anybody help me?
[06:14] <acheronuk> !ask
 How to set a default boot on dual boot machine?
[06:16] <hateball> Do you want it to be permanent?
[06:16] <hateball> You can either make an entry permanent, or you can have grub remember the last used
 @hateball, yes, I want it
[06:19] <hateball> Which one? One always permanent, or remember last used?
 @hateball, permanent one
[06:24] <hateball> well, you will need to edit /etc/default/grub and change GRUB_DEFAULT=0 to the entry you want
[06:24] <hateball> where 0 is the first entry in the generated /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[06:25] <hateball> it's quite a headache, I think
 @hateball, I have done. But nothing change. Can you show me an axample code, please?
[06:26] <hateball> after you've made the change you need to run "sudo update-grub" to generate a new grub.cfg
 @hateball, ok thanks... I'll try it...
[06:29] <hateball> personally I would just use "GRUB_DEFAULT=saved" and add the line "GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true"
[06:29] <hateball> that way it will remember what you booted last and continue using that until you manually switch
 @hateball, oh... I see... I didn't add that line... OK thanks again...
 @hateball, it work... thanks...
[06:39] <hateball> :)
[06:45] <Fritigern> Installing Beta2 of Yakkety. Wish me luck!
[07:01] <valorie> Fritigern, I've had a good experience with it so far
[08:26] <sayur> hello guys
[08:26] <Fritigern> Selamat!
[08:26] <sayur> i using plasma 5, where i found sound balance setting ?
[08:27] <hateball> sayur: what do you mean "sound balance" ?
[08:28] <sayur> hateball: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=107617
[08:29] <sayur> i not found in plasma 5
[08:30] <hateball> ah yes
[08:31] <hateball> hmmm, perhaps that is not present in the volume applet now
[08:32] <sayur> any solution for me ?
[08:37] <hateball> sayur: I wonder if you can do it by installing pavucontrol maybe
[08:37] <hateball> and using that
[08:37] <hateball> or straight up use pacmd
[08:41] <acheronuk> hateball: pavucontrol can do that, yes. click the little shield that says 'lock channels together' to disable that lock
[08:42] <hateball> acheronuk: might want to direct that to sayur :)
[08:42] <acheronuk> sayur: ^^^ see above
[08:42] <sayur> acheronuk: thanks
[08:46] <sayur> my problem solved thanks acheronuk hateball
[08:46] <hateball> sayur: :)
[08:46] <hateball> sayur: I think the native applet in plasma 5.8 will have better functionality
[08:54] <atdprhs> Hi, I made a backup copy using kubuntu before reinstallation, I copied my home folder (unencrypted) to my external hdd, unfortionately I didn't check whether or not the files has been moved
[08:54] <atdprhs> I reinstalled my kubuntu, and then when I visited the folder, it has all of the subfolders but no single file?
[08:55] <atdprhs> So Unfortionately I do not have any files, this is really sad and disturbing :(
[08:56] <atdprhs> Interestingly when I view folder's properties, I see it says > 5 GB and > 25k files
[08:59] <sayur> hateball: where i can check my plasma version ?
[09:01] <hateball> sayur: "plasmashell -v"
[09:07] <acheronuk> hateball: applet in 5.8 doesn't seem to allow slip channels here
[09:07] <acheronuk> *split
[09:13] <hateball> acheronuk: ack
[11:16] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:48] <Not_a_Robot> Hey friends, do you know how can I restart KMail?
[12:09] <BluesKaj> Not_a_Robot, sudo systemctl restart kmail? or akonadi server ?
[12:09] <BluesKaj> I'm not akmail user
[12:50] <Smurphy> kmixeryou can't restart kmail. What do you want to restart? KMail is an application. You stop it, and you start it.
[15:08] <germyn> is this where I can get some help?
[15:10] <acheronuk> !ask
[15:11] <germyn> ok
[15:14] <germyn> I try to install additional drivers and all it says is collecting information and does not do nothing.I have kubuntu the latest and I am trying to install ati drivers. This is my problem.The driver manager does nothing. How can I install the drivers?
[15:22] <marco-parillo> Could it be this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-driver-manager/+bug/1280310
[15:33] <germyn> I found that I did not have this. python3-dbus.mainloop.qt. I installed it and it still hangs on collecting information.
[15:53] <pelp> Hey Fellas
[15:54] <pelp> I was wondering if there was going to be another kubuntu party sometime? I was at the last and I really enjoyed it. :)
[15:54] <Smurphy> There was one? Where???
[15:55] <pelp> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-party-3/
[15:55] <Smurphy> Nice: alcohol infused in said beverage – Optional
[15:55] <Smurphy> :D
[15:55] <pelp> :D
[16:02] <germyn> Any other ideas on getting the driver manager to work?
[16:07] <rattking> hey folks with Haswell-ULT graphics.. what AccelMethod for the intel video driver are you using? I have been having instability and font corruption with both sna and uxa method, and issues with plasma not responding after hot plugging an external monitor.. I have been running Driver "modesetting" Option "AccelMethod" "glamor" since this morning and the hotplugging seems better and I have not noticed the
[16:07] <rattking> other issues yet.
[16:20] <pelp> Oh, sorry guys I linked the wrong pary
[16:20] <pelp> *party
[16:20] <pelp> I was on this one http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-party-4-the-gathering-of-halflings/
[17:17] <chet> /j #ubuntu
[17:18] <chet> ???
[17:19] <noodlesnod> voice?
[17:40] <paranoidabhi> hi
[17:40] <paranoidabhi> which kde version will be shipped with kubuntu 16.10?
[17:41] <paranoidabhi> any upcoming backports for kubuntu 16.04? Was hoping to get in on the multi-monitor bug-fixes.
[20:19] <valorie> paranoidabhi: do you have backports enabled?
[20:19] <valorie> for 16.04
[20:20] <valorie> for 16.10, we have plasma 5.7.2 I believe
[20:20] <valorie> we might get 5.74 in, if possible
[20:20] <paranoidabhi> valorie, yes I have them enabled.
[20:20] <valorie> 5.8 soon after release, in backports
[20:21] <valorie> we have to get YY out the door first, and it's been slow for a great number of reasons
[20:21] <paranoidabhi> valorie, awesome, so sometime in Nov?
[20:22] <valorie> 5.8 is being released right now, so yes, soon
[20:22] <valorie> no efforts on that right now, beyond letting it build automatically in our CI
[20:24] <acheronuk>  5.8 will have 3 bugfix updates in October (5.8.1 to 5.8.3), so there will be a lot of updates to package
[20:25] <acheronuk> though point releases should be minimal effort