[00:03] <HappyHobo> Does unity use zon theming?
[00:30] <pandoxer> My webcam is ultra slow (cheese) unless i'm not in the middle of the image. How come? Lighting?
[00:46] <ElectroMotive> lighting has alot to do with it
[00:46] <elisa87> how can I kill xserver in Ubuntu 14.04? stopping lightdm didn't kill it
[00:47] <ElectroMotive> lots of webcams have the same issue
[00:55] <elisa87> $ sudo  lightdm stop  ** (lightdm:3003): WARNING **: Error activating login1 session: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Failed: Operation not supported
[00:56] <lordcirth> elisa87, sudo killall Xorg ?
[00:57] <elisa87> lordcirth: $ sudo killall Xorg    Xorg: no process found
[00:57] <HappyHobo> lordcirth:  does unity use zoncolor schemes?
[00:57] <lordcirth> elisa87, ps aux | grep X
[00:58] <lordcirth> That will tell you the process name
[00:58] <elisa87> lordcirth: $ ps aux | grep X  mona      3248  0.0  0.0  15256   928 pts/0    S+   19:58   0:00 grep --color=auto X
[00:59] <elisa87> lordcirth: ?
[00:59] <lordcirth> elisa87, nothing else?
[00:59] <elisa87> no lordcirth
[00:59] <lordcirth> elisa87, try grepping for 'xorg' then.  Maybe it's lowercase in 14.
[01:00] <HappyHobo> lordcirth:   Can you help me too?
[01:00] <lordcirth> HappyHobo, I am looking into it
[01:00] <lordcirth> HappyHobo, I am not sure what you mean.
[01:00] <elisa87> lordcirth: mona@pascal:~$ ps aux | grep -i xorg  mona      3251  0.0  0.0  15256   944 pts/0    S+   20:00   0:00 grep --color=auto -i xorg
[01:00] <HappyHobo> Thank you sir.
[01:00] <HappyHobo> Zoncolor schemes were used bhy unity in 14
[01:01] <lordcirth> elisa87, are you quite sure that Xorg is running?  Because it sure looks like it isn't.
[01:01] <HappyHobo> by*
[01:01] <elisa87> I don't know. Is there a command to see if I am inside x server or not? I am doing this on a remote machine lordcirth
[01:03] <lordcirth> elisa87, if it is a remote machine, why do you need to kill Xorg?
[01:03] <lordcirth> You are ssh'd in?
[01:04] <posi> I'm using postgresql 9.3 on precise and I'm noticing consistently high sys load at load 100 on 64 threads but what I think should not be causing 2 full cores to be spinning.
[01:05] <posi> 64 hyperthreads 32 cores
[01:05] <elisa87> I am installing NVIDIA toolkit driver so I need to exit X server lordcirth and yes I am ssh'd in http://askubuntu.com/questions/831399/driver-installation-failed-toolkit-installation-skipped?noredirect=1#comment1267103_831399
[01:06] <lordcirth> elisa87, I don't think Xorg is running.
[01:06] <lordcirth> grep didn't find it.
[01:12] <melani> m
[01:13] <Bashing-om> lordcirth: elisa87 ' ps aux | grep X ' ??
[01:13] <lordcirth> Bashing-om, Xorg is the only thing I know that has a capital X in it.
[01:15] <Bashing-om> lordcirth: confused by grep for xorg . On my system it is active but " ps aux | grep -i Xorg " >> sysop     3532  0.0  0.0  11740   924 pts/0    R+   20:04   0:00 grep --color=auto -i Xorg . Not at all what I expected either .
[01:16] <lordcirth> Bashing-om, It doesn't show up for you?
[01:16] <lordcirth> I'm sure there is a command to know if a given executable is running, or something, but grep is universal.
[01:17] <Bashing-om> lordcirth: Nope . Like I say , confusing ! .. as top shows it " 1022 root      20   0  245188  47632  18128 S   0.3  1.2   7:51.37 Xorg " .
[01:17] <lordcirth> root      3001  1.5  1.0 292104 174520 tty7    Ss+  Sep26  69:42 /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg ... <flags>
[01:17] <lordcirth> Bashing-om, are you on 16.04?
[01:18] <Bashing-om> lordcirth: No, my system is a 14.04 kernel .
[01:18] <lordcirth> Bashing-om, hmm, that shouldn't make a difference.
[01:19] <lordcirth> It's always worked for me, on all sorts of systems...
[01:19] <Bashing-om> lordcirth: Just pointing out. Where we expect ps to find it .. grepping for Xorg gives a null report . hummmmm .
[01:28] <Bashing-om> lordcirth: elisa87 'sudo systemctl stop lightdm.service ' to stop the GUI ?? in 16.04 .
[01:28] <lordcirth> Bashing-om, I work on servers, and I'm running Kubuntu, so don't ask me
[01:36] <Disaster_Area> is there any way of selectively enabling only certain files / applications to appear in the dash? I have some applications that I want to use fairly regularly that I can't lock to launcher so that'd be the best place for them (and maybe some other apps too) but I don't want it to just use my file history
[01:39] <Disaster_Area> there's also at least 1 app where I'm not sure where the file is actually located but if I could find that, that would be really useful. It shows up in my search results when I search for it in my dash.
[01:39] <gtxbb> Bashing-om, look into systemctl set-target
[01:40] <lordcirth> Disaster_Area, you can use 'which' to find where given executable is
[01:41] <Disaster_Area> hm. how do I go about using that?
[01:44] <joe__> Looking for help with spaces.  I am moving over form Mac, and on the Mac, the spaces allows you to assign a certain program to a certain "space".   Can thi sbe done on Ubuntu?
[01:44] <th0r> Disaster_Area, 'man which'?
[01:45] <DJFLEXX> YUH
[01:46] <Disaster_Area> I'm not sure what the filename is for my application tho... I'm not sure how I go from 'I can find it in my dash / I can open it up on my launcher' --> using the terminal to find the application I've just opened's location.
[01:47] <aus_mal> joe: yep, it's called workspaces. System Settings> Appearance> Behaviour> Enable workspaces
[01:47] <Hooli> you can look for the process name in system monitor
[01:47] <Disaster_Area> ah okay
[01:47] <DJFLEXX> I DONE BEEN RAISED OUT HERE IN THEM STREETS, FOR REAL
[01:48] <Disaster_Area> oh when I hover over it in the system monitor it tells me the location anyway
[01:48] <Hooli> :P
[01:49] <joe__> AUS_MAL.   I have activated.   It works well.  But, the feature I use on the Mac, is that you can assign a program to open in a specific workspace?   On th eMac, my spaces are all populated with the write programs as I opne them.  On Ubuntu, they need do be arranged each time I reboot or start up my computer.
[01:50] <DJFLEXX> MY WATCH SO ICY I CANT EVEN TELL THE TIME
[01:51] <aus_mal> according to askubuntu and the forums it can be done, unfortunately I cannot walk you through, anyone else here able to help?
[01:51] <OerHeks> !ot | DJFLEXX
[01:51] <Hooli> i just got a fright. checked my process list and saw explorer.exe ... in ubuntu. turns out it's because wine is running
[01:52] <DJFLEXX> okay man my bad
[01:52] <schemanic_> Hi
[01:53] <schemanic_> Anyone have to deal with naming workstations?
[01:53] <schemanic_> I'm trying to make a naming scheme that works for phones, workstations, and virtual infrastructure
[01:53] <Disaster_Area> how do I open C:\Program Files ... I keep getting errors but I feel like this is a dumb question I should know the answer to.
[01:53] <DJFLEXX> REAL SHIT
[01:54] <kk4ewt> schemanic_, well pick a favorite show or  comicbook company
[01:54] <schemanic_> Does anyone have input on the inclusion of the system environment in the name of the device/host?
[01:54] <kk4ewt> or book series
[01:54] <schemanic_> kk4ewt, no thats not going to work. It needs to follow a scheme
[01:55] <kk4ewt> that would be one scheme
[01:55] <kk4ewt> batman superman flash greenarrow etc
[01:56] <schemanic_> right now I have [Environment - 3][Purpose - 3][type - 2][Asset Tag/ID - 4]
[01:56] <schemanic_> so PRDAPPVM0001
[01:56] <Disaster_Area> hm.
[01:56] <kk4ewt> ok you are looking for a ldap schema then
[01:57] <schemanic_> well right now I just need a convention for naming these machines
[01:57] <OerHeks> schemanic_, immortals for virtual, mortals for you know .. https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_figures_in_Greek_mythology
[01:57] <Disaster_Area> so the program im using is open in wine which suggests to me that the C:\Program Files\... is probably b/c I'm using the program through that... ugh. I guess this got complicated again.
[01:57] <DJFLEXX> HOLD UP
[01:57] <OerHeks> !wine
[01:58] <schemanic_> One big question I have is, if I'm putting environment in my hostname, but I want the convention to cover phones and workstations, what 'environment' do those fall under
[01:58] <schemanic_> anyoen feel me?
[01:58] <schemanic_> anyone* rather
[01:58] <joe__> aus_mal, thanks for the encouragement.  When you look on the config page, there are no options.
[01:59] <DJFLEXX> I SHIT BUTT NAKED WITH MY GUN IN THE BATHROOM, NOONE GETS THE DROP ON ME
[02:00] <schemanic_> Or another option is not to include environment in the name, and instead rely on metadata for that
[02:00] <schemanic_> so I could have a test server called APPVM0001 and a prod server called APPVM0002
[02:01] <schemanic_> somehow I feel that isn't quite right
[02:02] <DJFLEXX> FEEL THE BEAT
[02:03] <crazyadm> hi
[02:04] <DJFLEXX> 300 POUNDS BITCH IN MY DIAMOND JACUZZI
[02:05] <schemanic_> hi crazyadm
[02:07] <DJFLEXX> I SEE BUSTERS AND I JUST LAUGH ATTEM, HAHAAAA
[02:07] <OerHeks> !ops
[02:07] <lordcirth> Oh did they finally get rid of the silly 2-person requirement?
[02:08] <OerHeks> 2-person for what, lordcirth ??
[02:09] <lordcirth> OerHeks, the ops flag, it used to say when you hit it that it would only work if someone else did it too.
[02:09] <Rarrikins> lordcirth: That's because it used to launch nukes.
[02:09] <OerHeks> lordcirth, never noticed that rule, only if 2 persons do it the same time, the bot reponds once
[02:09] <lordcirth> Rarrikins, hmm?
[02:10] <kk4ewt> OerHeks, you can also ignore the person
[02:10] <DJFLEXX> IF YOU WANNA FUcc WITH ME, ILL RUN YOU OVER IN MY BENTLY
[02:11] <dax> DJFLEXX: cut it out
[02:11] <dax> lordcirth: that's never been a thing here, you're possibly thinking of another channel :)
[02:11] <Disaster_Area> is that really an emergency? lol.
[02:11] <lordcirth> dax, I suppose that's possible.
[02:12] <RonWhoCares> How do I update to the newest version of Flash Player?    I am receiving this error http://pastebin.com/TCi7YzYM
[02:13] <DJFLEXX> REAL SHIT
[02:13] <gtxbb> !ops DJFLEXX
[02:13] <phunyguy> gtxbb: we are watching
[02:13] <nomic> .es
[02:14] <OerHeks> RonWhoCares, check the launchpad pages if those ppas got packages for xenial  > https://launchpad.net/~upubuntu-com/+archive/ubuntu/multimedia
[02:14] <OerHeks> if not, remove ppa
[02:14] <k_sze[work]> I'm trying to run a program that I developed as a daemon. The program depends on the GPU being available (it uses OpenCL and Intel's VA-API). Do I need to put something in the init script to make sure that the graphics subsystem or something like that is ready?
[02:14] <FoeHammered> I'm trying to run a program, and it says, ./arena: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_ttf-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory -- Where do I find this? I tried to simply download SDL ttf stuff, but no joy.
[02:16] <OerHeks> FoeHammered, old answer, maybe the package names are still valid .. http://askubuntu.com/questions/64765/i-downloaded-dwarf-fortress-why-wont-it-run
[02:16] <k_sze[work]> My program also depends on the USB 3 device being ready.
[02:17] <FoeHammered> Thanks, OerHeks!
[02:18] <Rarrikins> FoeHammered: apt-file search says the package you want is libsdl-ttf2.0-0
[02:18] <FoeHammered> Turns out there's a new version anyway, but as long as I've got these instructions to follow, I may as well try to get old 1.1 working.
[02:18] <FoeHammered> And bam. OerHeks found it. Thanks, Rarrikins.
[02:18] <FoeHammered> Looks like it works now.
[02:18] <OerHeks> it gives a whole list,  libsdl1.2debian libsdl-image1.2 libsdl-ttf2.0-0
[02:18] <FoeHammered> Uh, now to, uh, try to get v1.3 working anyway.
[02:19] <FoeHammered> But hey. If for some reason I can't, I have 1.1, and that's bleeping wonderful.
[02:19]  * FoeHammered is off to play GearHead!
[02:43] <doctorm> I'm having some trouble compiling something that relies on libpango1.0-dev. When pangocairo.h does #include <cairo.h>, it fails to find it (No such file or directory). cairo.h is in /usr/include/cairo. I'm not familiar enough with the build system to really know how to point it there, any suggestions?
[02:44] <doctorm> I've tried adding LDFLAGS+=-I/usr/include/cairo to the Makefile, but it didn't do anything.
[02:56] <doctorm> a
[03:02] <stefan__1> How can I play sound embedded in PDFs on a 64-bit Ubuntu box?
[03:02] <holocron> networking problem here: I reboot this Ubuntu 16.04-1 machine and it starts right up, but is not pingable until I console into it and ping the gateway
[03:04] <holocron> also, i have 2 physical interfaces, both of which are vlan tagged, but only one is working (after I ping the gateway).. there is only one "gateway" stanza in my /etc/network/interfaces. If anyone has some ubuntu vlan networking chops, I would really appreciate the help
[03:13] <doctorm> To answer my own question, had to add CFLAGS+=`pkg-config --cflags pangocairo` and LDFLAGS+=`pkg-config --libs pangocairo`
[03:14] <jSmP> hi
[03:15] <jSmP> can vmware workstation host machine change from windows to ubuntu???
[03:17] <kk4ewt> jSmP, huh?
[03:17] <kk4ewt> can you run a vmware vm in windows or ubuntu yes
[03:19] <jSmP> yes
[03:20] <jSmP> but can I run same vm on ubuntu as well as Windows host machines
[03:20] <Hooli> yes
[03:21] <jSmP> cool.
[03:23] <stefan__1> bump: does anyone know how to play embedded sound in PDFs on ubuntu 16.04?
[03:29] <foobar1234> y#python
[03:29] <kk4ewt> tyr agian foobar1234
[03:44] <jacob_> is gnutls error normal?
[03:44] <Guest6331> I'm scared
[03:45] <teward> Guest6331: without seeing the specific error, couldn't say.  TLS errors happen for many reasons
[03:45] <teward> and without knowing the context of the error, either, couldn't say whether you should be scared or not.
[03:45] <teward> normal, probably not.  concerning, not sure.
[03:45] <Guest6331> error in pull function
[03:46] <Guest6331> my system is still running but i'm scared it'll do a kernel panic
[04:02] <Froster> any questions?»
[04:04] <Froster> any questions?
[04:06] <kk4ewt> what is the speed of an african laden swallow carrying a coconut
[04:08] <hypercube32> holocron, sounds like you might have arp issue? like maybe same vm's using same ip/mac?
[04:08] <hypercube32> or something not set up right
[04:09] <hypercube32> arping both ip's and see if they come back duplicate entries or something else thats weird, check arp table
[04:20] <holocron> hypercube32 okay, let me check the arp table, I don't think that is the case though
[04:21] <hypercube32> holocron, that could be, but always check fundimentals through and through
[04:21] <holocron> hypercube32 you're right, i'll see what's in the arp table before i ping out, i just recycled the machine
[04:23] <makerman> hi all - any suggestions on 3d desktop interfaces for ubuntu? looking for something that is 3d not just for task switching but just normal use.... so a desktop with depth
[04:24] <makerman> i know cube is there with compiz but looking for something different
[04:26] <holocron> hypercube32 okay, so i checked the arp table on the problem machine following a reboot, it's completely empty (0 entries). The interface (802.1q tagged) is up/up and the default gateway is configured
[04:27] <holocron> on another machine on the same vlan, i cannot ping the problem machine and there is no other entry in the arp table for that address
[04:27] <holocron> i'm certain, if i ping the default gw on the problem machine, it will become reachable from the 2nd machine
[04:29] <holocron> would you care to see my /etc/network/interfaces? Also, /run/network/ifstate doesn't have the interface listed that i care about
[04:30] <hypercube32> i couldnt make sense of it i dont know enough about how vlans are set up via ubuntu yet
[04:30] <holocron>  /proc/net/vlan/config isn't show all my vlans :(
[04:30] <hypercube32> id run through a few simple examples in a virtual machine and see if you cant re-create the problem that way
[04:30] <holocron> alright, well i think just taking the time to type this out is giving me enough ammo to continue searching
[04:31] <hypercube32> or atleast get one other example and work through it then compare to what you have
[04:31] <holocron> yep
[04:31] <jSmP> in my ubuntu set of unknown ports are open why?
[04:32] <holocron> nice nic btw, we cubeoids gotta keep it real
[04:33] <foobar1234> test
[04:34] <holocron> ping pong foobar1234
[04:34] <makerman> EOL....
[04:34] <SuperZoom10976> play christian music
[04:35] <SuperZoom10976> what's up
[04:38] <Kyler> ubuntu sucks i have to disable secure bootto get  wireless  to   load
[04:39] <Ben64> alternatively, secure boot sucks
[04:40] <crazyadm> ubuntu is pretty good
[04:40] <crazyadm> i use it to work like nas
[04:40] <Kyler> secure boot ill be great   till  in 2 years all the  keys ill be broken
[04:41] <holocron> Kyler secure boot is dumb
[04:42] <Kyler> i guess i could sign the dkms and broadcom driver myself butt it seems  like  pita
[04:42] <holocron> gods no, just run legacy boot
[04:44] <holocron> somebody smart, please explain this to me: http://pastebin.com/PmHc7ytu
[04:50] <wisescribe7> Hi, I have a question: I have a problem with Ubuntu 16.04 freezing and the hard drive constantly spinning over and over. It gets to the point where I am forced to turn my PC off. How can I fix this?
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: syslog spitting out errors of any kind?
[04:51] <wisescribe7> lotuspsychje: No.
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: can you make sure with tail -f /var/log/syslog to see whats going on in realtime?
[04:52] <wisescribe7> lotuspsychje: OK, one second....
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: what kind of harddisk do you have?
[04:53] <wisescribe7> lotuspsychje: I believe it's a Western Digital 145GB HDD.
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: this behaviour started at wich point? new install of 16.04? did it work good before?
[04:54] <wisescribe7> lotuspsychje: This has been since an upgrade to 16.04 from 15.10. It was working fine before.
[04:54] <eslam_LinUxer> Hey All ...
[04:55] <holocron> heyyy
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: are you up to date to latest 16.04.1?
[04:55] <eslam_LinUxer> is " sudo apt-get -f install " gonna solve missing packages ?
[04:55] <holocron> it might
[04:56] <wisescribe7> lotuspsychje: That I am not sure of. I just know it's 16.04 LTS.
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> eslam_LinUxer: explain us what your issue is exactly?
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: lsb_release -a
[04:57] <eslam_LinUxer> lotuspsychje : i am installing a bcwm driver on my ubuntu " offline " ,,, and i have so much missing pakages ...
[04:57] <holocron> someone smart, please explain this to me: http://pastebin.com/PmHc7ytu
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> eslam_LinUxer: is it possible you get a network cable to update and install driver?
[04:57] <wisescribe7> lotuspsychje: Thanks, I just found out it's 16.04.1 LTS.
[04:58] <eslam_LinUxer> i will try to plug an Ethernet 2 do that ...
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> wisescribe7: great, one thing i would test is trying to load up a 16.04 liveusb and see if your harddrive spins aswell?
[04:59] <eslam_LinUxer> i love ubuntu ,,, but ubuntu not coming with pre installed wifi driver ...
[04:59] <makerman> eslam_LinUxer, apt-get upgrade
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> eslam_LinUxer: broadcom has restricted drivers
[04:59] <makerman> eslam_LinUxer, check the software section for custom drivers
[04:59] <wisescribe7> lotuspsychje: I don't know how to make a liveusb.
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> eslam_LinUxer: you might wanna try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras with a network cable + update
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> !usb | wisescribe7
[05:00] <eslam_LinUxer> i will try doing this ... when i have internet cable
[05:00] <wisescribe7> lotuspsychje: Thanks.
[05:01] <shubham> hi
[05:01] <eslam_LinUxer> can i install a driver for my boardcom offline ?
[05:01] <shubham> any indians?
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> eslam_LinUxer: also check your usb/dvd media, broadcom drivers are inside a folder
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> !in | shubham yes
[05:01] <shubham> cani play assasin creed game in ubuntu 16.04
[05:02] <shubham> how to install windows game in ubuntu
[05:02] <eslam_LinUxer>  lotuspsychje : i found it ... but it's still asking for the package "bcmwl-kernel"
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> shubham: i think its too high end, but doublecheck in #gamingonlinux perhaps?
[05:02] <holocron> lotuspsychje where do all the network geeks hang out?
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> holocron: ##networking
[05:03] <makerman> hi all - wondering what IDE you all are using for ASM in ubuntu?
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> holocron: what symptons do you have?
[05:03] <holocron> http://pastebin.com/PmHc7ytu
[05:03] <shubham> sorry guys what you all are talking i am not understanding it at all
[05:03] <holocron> that's the surface weirdness
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> holocron: yeah seen the paste, but what happens for real on your system?
[05:04] <holocron> lotuspsychje: that's exactly what's happening irl
[05:05] <holocron> let me gather some more diagnostics
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> holocron: then explain to me please
[05:06] <jedidiah> recommend a good front-end node
[05:06] <jSmP> hi
[05:06] <holocron> lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/FCnLKU7b
[05:07] <holocron> lotuspsychje: when i reboot the problem machine, it is not pingable until I console into it and ping the default gw
[05:07] <holocron> furthermore, trying to restart networking.service fails
[05:08] <holocron> checking the journal..
[05:08] <holocron> Sep 30 01:07:41 zs93kvi sh[1123]: Unknown interface enc180.1295 Sep 30 01:07:41 zs93kvi sh[1123]: Unknown interface enc180.1299 Sep 30 01:07:41 zs93kvi ifup[1128]: Unknown interface enc180.1295 Sep 30 01:07:41 zs93kvi ifup[1128]: Unknown interface enc180.1299
[05:08] <RLShiftyDoggit> hey guys while doing the make command for building android roms etc is there away to have what the terminal put into a text document so i can look threw the whole thing for errors
[05:08] <jeno> yes
[05:08] <BenderRodriguez> RLShiftyDoggit: cmd > logs.txt
[05:09] <User39943> I need to edit a file that does not allow write only read. I tried sudo chmod +w filename but that didn't work. Am I using the command incorrectly?
[05:09] <BenderRodriguez> RLShiftyDoggit: cmd 2> logs.txt for stderr
[05:09] <jeno> I'd recommend piping it to tee so you can still see the output
[05:09] <RLShiftyDoggit> so it would be make >log.txt
[05:09] <holocron> User39943 show output of "ls -la <filename>"
[05:09] <jeno> something like "command | tee log.txt"
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> holocron: can you check sudo lshw -C network?
[05:10] <BenderRodriguez> mebe he wants no output
[05:10] <User39943> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1751 Mar  3  2016 50-synaptics.conf
[05:10] <holocron> lotuspsychje http://pastebin.com/yunhhpDt
[05:10] <User39943> I need to modify that file
[05:11] <holocron> I think you ought to just sudo edit it
[05:11] <jeno> what's the best way to go about making a bash script run on start up?
[05:11] <holocron> but you can "chmod o+w <filename>"
[05:11] <User39943> how do I do that? sudo gedit filename?
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> holocron: weird it doesnt show chipsets of network cards
[05:12] <holocron> sorry "chmod a+w <fn>" i think
[05:12] <holocron> lotuspsychje yeah, this is s390x, it's all wierd over here
[05:12] <eslam_LinUxer> can i install unity 8 on UBUNTU GNOME ? 16.04
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> !cron | jeno
[05:12] <BenderRodriguez> rc.local if you want to execute the script before any logins
[05:13] <User39943> cool sudo gedit filename worked
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> eslam_LinUxer: unity8 is still being worked on, not recommended yet
[05:13] <jeno> thanks all
[05:13] <BenderRodriguez> no problem
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> eslam_LinUxer: wait for 16.10 to have a decent unity8 working
[05:13] <RLShiftyDoggit> thanks guys i figured it was the same as getting a logcat via adb into a text doc
[05:13] <jeno> it's a script to restart my dropbox dameon.... so cron might be the way to go
[05:13] <eslam_LinUxer> well ,,, can i install ubuntu 7 on ubuntu gnome 16.04 ?
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> holocron: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[05:14] <eslam_LinUxer> i only interesting in LTS ...
[05:14] <User39943> Thanks for the help
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> eslam_LinUxer: if you like unity7, why not install ubuntu desktop instead gnome?
[05:15] <holocron> lotuspsychje: 16.04-1, the only way i can get the network functional following a reboot is by using "ip addr add..." and "ip link set .." commands
[05:15] <holocron> Cheers Users39943
[05:15] <eslam_LinUxer> lotuspsychje : because i love Gnome .... i am asking " if i can " install unity
[05:15] <RLShiftyDoggit> yes you can
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> holocron: for you i would advise a new bug, sounds like something weird
[05:15] <holocron> le sigh
[05:15] <holocron> thanks
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> holocron: let the dev work tis out and gather as much info as you can on the bug
[05:17] <holocron> lotuspsychje: sure.. i'm just half a bottle of wine in tonight, i think i'll sleep on it and open the LP up tomorrow.. do you know where i ought to open it up?
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> !bug | holocron here
[05:17] <User39943> What is tty console? Is that another term for terminal?
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> !tty | User39943
[05:19] <holocron> lotuspychje: sure.. maybe i'll file it under the vlan package, seems likely
[05:21] <User39943> What purpose does TTY serve? It pretty much looks like terminal.
[05:21] <holocron> lotuspsychje: sorry, can't type tonight.. anyways, the link you stated seems to imply i ought to file under kernel
[05:22] <holocron> User39943: TTY is a teletype device
[05:22] <holocron> it's exactly a terminal
[05:24] <User39943> oic
[05:32] <User39943> Is there a good reason why shift+insert is used to paste in terminal rather than ctrl+v?
[05:33] <crazyadm> how to install nfs service?
[05:33] <nomic> it isn't
[05:33] <nomic> ok it is
[05:33] <nomic> ctrl-v is used as 'break'
[05:33] <nomic> page down
[05:33] <nomic> it has another use
[05:33] <nomic> can't be used
[05:33] <nomic> terminal owns all keys
[05:33] <nomic> User39943
[05:34] <nomic> because it a text terminal -- key driven
[05:34] <User39943> ah, thanks
[05:34] <nomic> is a legacy thing
[05:34] <nomic> cannot be over-ridden by the gui -- if it were used as "paste" -- it would affect all kinds of legacy things in bash/term that use ctrl-v
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> !nfs | crazyadm
[05:34] <User39943> guess I'll just have to get used to it
[05:34] <nomic> so.. its on the menu -- edit>paste selection
[05:35] <crazyadm> !hadoop
[05:37] <holocron> omg
[05:38] <holocron> lotuspsychje ....
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> holocron: yes?
[05:39] <holocron> lotuspsychje: you see anything funny on lines 20 and 29? http://pastebin.com/FCnLKU7b
[05:40] <holocron>  :/ missing a character
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> the c?
[05:42] <holocron> yeah, totally
[05:42] <holocron> so this fixes bringing up all the interfaces, but still seeing some strangness on reboot with having to ping out before incoming is allowd... this one is odd, but i think i just need to check with my network guys
[05:43] <User39943> The directory structure of Ubuntu seems to have a primary bin folder and a bin folder inside usr. Following this guide (https://trac.common-lisp.net/cmucl/wiki/InstallingCmucl), I am not 100% certain they mean the primary bin folder. Anyone able to take a look for me?
[05:44] <holocron> User39943 primary bin folder... you mean where they're talking about "bin/lisp" ?
[05:44] <User39943> yes
[05:45] <holocron> User39943 once you unpack the tarball "bunzip cmucl-19e-x86-linux.tar.bz2", it'll be right there in the current working directory
[05:45] <holocron> or "tar xjf" like they say
[05:46] <holocron> they're suggesting you unpack the thing into /usr/local
[05:46] <User39943> But don't I have to unpack cmucl-19e-x86-linux.tar.bz2 & cmucl-19e-x86-linux.tar.bz2.asc
[05:46] <User39943> oic
[05:47] <holocron> yeah the .asc is just to make sure all your bits are a-ok
[05:47] <holocron> you can "echo $PATH" to see if /usr/local/bin is setup
[05:48] <holocron> if so, you should be fine following their instructions to the letter
[05:48] <User39943> ohhhh... *face palm* for some reason I was thinking there was a second tar I had to unpack only after I unpacked the first in the correct location.
[05:49] <User39943> lack of sleep is getting to me I suppose
[05:49] <holocron> hmm, they do mention some extra package
[05:49] <holocron> but i'm not familiar.. so ymmv
[05:49] <dsfghlksdvd> Hi all, i'am looking a program for monitoring the hard drive (I need an analog process explorer on Windows) glansec, iotop and more is not suitable (I need to see what the program; which folder; write read file)) maybe
[05:50] <User39943> doh! I also grabbed the wrong version lol
[05:50] <dsfghlksdvd> http://processhacker.sourceforge.net/img/screenshots/disk_tab.png
[05:51] <User39943> holocron: thanks for your help
[05:51] <holocron> User39943 gladly
[05:52] <holocron> dsfghlksdvd: lsof ?
[05:53] <holocron> !lsof | dsfghlksdvd whee
[05:54] <holocron> hmm, ubottu, that wasn't helpful
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> holocron: if you find a better alternative, report to dax please
[05:55] <dax> or #ubuntu-ops in general :)
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> ok :p
[05:56] <holocron> I'm looking for ubottu usage
[05:56] <holocron> http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins :(
[05:58] <holocron> !patience
[05:58] <holocron> !usage
[05:59] <holocron> Thanks ubottu, I love a good irc bot
[06:01] <holocron> !root
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> !msgthebot | holocron to keep more quiet
[06:03] <holocron> lotuspsychje eh, i'm off to bed anyhow, but i'll remember that in the future
[06:04] <dsfghlksdvd> I kicked and I have not seen messages(
[06:04] <dsfghlksdvd> lsof; thank you i did not know, and every second of his time necessary to run lsof?
[06:04] <holocron> who's time?
[06:05] <holocron> dsfghlksdvd: please see http://www.brendangregg.com/linuxperf.html
[06:06] <dsfghlksdvd> lsof It shows the statistical results? (my native not english)
[06:06] <mlosev> 06:06:44 UTC
[06:07] <morf> holocron: neet
[06:07] <User39943> "the lisp binary will search for the lisp.core file relative to its location. This means that it is sufficient to have /usr/local/bin in your PATH to be able to invoke CMUCL from your shell."  I opened a terminal in /usr/local/bin and yet when I type CMUCL, It does not work. Any idea why?
[06:08] <holocron> User39943 show output of "echo $PATH" please
[06:08] <Choups> hi guys´
[06:08] <Choups> i need help
[06:08] <Choups> im a newbie here
[06:08] <cfhowlett> !ask | Choups u
[06:09] <Choups> i bought a server in linode.com and a domain in godaddy.com
[06:09] <Choups> how do i connect them?
[06:09] <cfhowlett> Choups, suggest you ask #ubuntu-server
[06:09] <darthho0> call godaddy
[06:09] <User39943> "/home/michael/bin:/home/michael/.local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin"
[06:09] <Choups> ok
[06:09] <Choups> ty
[06:09] <User39943> And now I've gone from User to michael lol
[06:10] <holocron> User39943: you would want to have ":." appended to the end of that if you want to execute files from your current working directory
[06:10] <holocron> User39943: really, you ought to just add ":/usr/local/bin" to the end of your PATH
[06:10] <holocron> oh snap, never mind
[06:10] <User39943> so :.CMUCL ?
[06:10] <cfhowlett> !patience | User39943
[06:10] <holocron> User39943: /usr/local/bin is in your PATH already.. can you show output of "ls -la /usr/local/bin/CMUCL" ?
[06:11] <holocron> User39943: no that's not how PATH works
[06:11] <User39943> "ls: cannot access '/usr/local/bin/CMUCL': No such file or directory"
[06:12] <holocron> i suspected as much
[06:12] <User39943> there is a file called lisp in there
[06:12] <holocron> User39943 what makes you think that CMUCL is the name of the program? yeah please try running "lisp", you can do it from any directory since /usr/local/bin is in your path
[06:13] <User39943> This means that it is sufficient to have /usr/local/bin in your PATH to be able to invoke CMUCL from your shell.
[06:13] <lxle_tux> User39943: how did you get CMUCL installed?
[06:14] <User39943> I extracted the tar like the guide said
[06:14] <holocron> you can see in their example that they're running the command "lisp"
[06:15] <User39943> so I should type % lisp in the terminal?
[06:15] <holocron> no man, just "lisp"
[06:16] <User39943> bash: /usr/local/bin/lisp: No such file or directory
[06:16] <holocron> we'll take the offline as it's not really #Ubuntu materials
[06:18] <zartarr> if i download something that ends in .bundle how do i install it?
[06:18] <cfhowlett> zartarr, never seen that one, but details *should* be on the download site, right?
[06:19] <zartarr> https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/info?slug=desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_horizon_clients/4_0
[06:19] <zartarr> i require it for my work
[06:19] <neurot> http://askubuntu.com/questions/265192/how-do-i-install-vmware-player-from-a-bundle-file
[06:19] <Choups> ok
[06:19] <Choups> i called godady
[06:19] <Choups> the domain is connected to the server now
[06:19] <Choups> but i have a new problem
[06:20] <Choups> the server is brand new
[06:20] <cfhowlett> Choups, yes you do.
[06:20] <Choups> it has nothing on it
[06:20] <cfhowlett> Choups, STOP hittting the enter key!  thank you.
[06:20] <Choups> how do i make it work like a webserver
[06:20] <Choups> sorry xD
[06:20] <Choups> *?
[06:20] <Choups> sorry for all the newbie questions xD
[06:21] <cfhowlett> Choups, now ... google "ubuntu + webserver" and wait for the magic.
[06:21] <Choups> ty
[06:21] <Choups> apche
[06:21] <Choups> apache
[06:24] <hypercube32> Choups, apt-get install httpd #if i recall correctly...
[06:33] <zartarr> ok team so the VMware thing installed
[06:33] <zartarr> i see the icon, i thought rebooting would fix it but it didn't
[06:33] <zartarr> see when I click it, nothing happens, absolutely nothing....
[06:34] <zartarr> I tried to go back and download a 32bit version, linux says its not compatible.... then i tried to use a lower version, linux says i have a newer version.
[06:34] <zartarr> so i am effectively stuck.
[06:37] <Guest91406> hello dear comunity.. I had in mind to assemblate a new personal computer for making music whit linux on.. so i would ask if there are some hardwere more compatible than others for doing this
[06:38] <zartarr> can someone explain how i would remove VMware to try and install a lower version?
[06:38] <cfhowlett> zartarr, how did you install it
[06:39] <zartarr> cfhowlett: chmod a+x
[06:39] <zartarr> then i did sudo ./
[06:39] <zartarr> prompt came up and i installed it
[06:39] <cfhowlett> zartarr, over my head.  sorry.
[06:39] <zartarr> however i unchecked a few boxes, i.e. 'control my camera' etc
[06:43] <wadadli> where did you download vmware?
[06:43] <hateball> Pretty impressive to download a company
[06:44] <Choups> i need help
[06:44] <Choups> i folowed this: https://www.linode.com/docs/security/use-public-key-authentication-with-ssh#windows-operating-system
[06:44] <Choups> but at stage 9
[06:44] <Choups> it says: However, this time you will be prompted for your SSH key’s passphrase, rather then your Linode user’s password.
[06:44] <cfhowlett> Choups, windows?  not here.  ask ##windows
[06:45] <Choups> but i introduced my linode pass
[06:45] <Choups> but the server is ubuntu
[06:45] <cfhowlett> Choups, so let me understand ... you are using the "how to do this in WINDOWS ... " for your ubuntu?   Do I have that right?
[06:45] <Choups> my local computer is windows
[06:45] <Choups> the server is ubunty
[06:45] <Choups> ubuntu
[06:46] <Choups> am i doing something wrong here?
[06:46] <Choups> isnt that guide for users of windows managing a ubuntu server?
[06:46] <cfhowlett> windows instructions on an ubuntu server?  yes, we would say that's wrong.
[06:46] <Choups> i think you didnt understood
[06:46] <Choups> check the dam guide
[06:47] <Choups> its a ubuntu server, beeing managed by a windows user
[06:47] <Choups> got it?
[06:47] <ramu> hello
[06:47] <Choups> hi
[06:47] <ramu> gat it
[06:48] <Choups> fuck it
[06:48] <Choups> sorry xD
[06:48] <Choups> lol
[06:48] <ramu> lola
[06:48] <Choups> lolita
[06:48] <ramu> lulu
[06:48] <ramu> chutkabhut
[06:49] <Choups> ala ukaba
[06:49] <Choups> ukaba! xD
[06:49] <Choups> uk.aba
[06:49] <Choups> uk.abadon
[06:50] <Choups> uk.abandon.europe
[06:50] <Choups> jesuz im a genious
[06:50] <Choups> but i need help with this server thing
[06:50] <Choups> i folow this guide
[06:50] <cfhowlett> !server | Choups
[06:51] <Choups> what?
[06:51] <Choups> waht the f is that?
[06:52] <cfhowlett> Choups, drop the attitude and the language.  no need and this is a family friendly channel.
[06:52] <Choups> sorry
[06:52] <Choups> you right
[06:52] <Choups> sorry
[06:52] <Choups> but what is that anyways?
[06:52] <ducasse> Choups: that's a link to the server docs
[06:52] <Choups> idont need that
[06:52] <Choups> i just need to know why does it say in stage 9
[06:53] <Choups> that i will input the ssh pass prase and when i entered the linode pass it was correct
[06:53] <Choups> and they are diferent btw
[06:54] <ducasse> Choups: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SSH_keys
[07:03] <Choups> do i need this use-public-key-authentication-with-ssh thing?
[07:03] <Choups> what is it for after all?
[07:04] <Choups> never mind
[07:04] <Choups> i need it
[07:07] <tjbiddle> Hi all. I’m load testing my rails app - It’s fine at 500 users & ~80 req/sec, if I bump to 600+ it craps out. I’m assuming it’s something to do with an open file limit, but I believe I’m setting my file limits correctly. On my load test machine the user I’m running the script as prints 65000 for `ulimit -n` and it doesn’t seem I’m even hitting the limit on the server with `ulimit -n | uniq | wc -l` at ~800 when ulimit default is 1024
[07:07] <tjbiddle> Any ideas to point me in the correct direction?
[07:08] <cfhowlett> tjbiddle, perhaps wiser to ask a rails channel??
[07:08] <tjbiddle> cfhowlett: Not rails specific
[07:08] <tjbiddle> #ubuntu seems most appropriateas I believe it’s a system issue
[07:09] <holocron> tjbiddle: http://www.brendangregg.com/linuxperf.html
[07:09] <holocron> just sayin.. system tuning is a pretty fine art
[07:10] <tjbiddle> holocron: Totally agree. It’s just it’s a very obvious hard limit ~600 users - not like it’s slowly scaling up, the second I hit *some* threshold between 500-600 the requests per second goes from ~20ms to 5seconds
[07:11] <tjbiddle> So I’m fairly sure it’s a file limit - Just don’t know what I’m misconfiguring
[07:11] <tjbiddle> Neat though - I’ll save that for later
[07:15] <holocron> tjbiddle: i dunno, i'll throw out a half-assed guess on my way out: http://stackoverflow.com/a/3923785/644109
[07:15] <holocron> good luck!
[07:17] <Choups> corrected
[07:17] <Choups> Passphrase for key "rsa-key-20160930":
[07:18] <Choups> New release '14.04.5 LTS' available.
[07:18] <Choups> Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it.
[07:18] <Choups> should I?
[07:18] <Choups> done
[07:20] <k_sze[work]> I'm developing a program in C++ and it core dumped. How do I find the core dump? I see this in /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern: |/usr/share/apport/apport %p %s %c %P
[07:21] <BeeBuu> is there anyone know asterisk in ubuntu 16.04 get error?
[07:22] <Choups> this server managing stuff is hard
[07:23] <Choups> plus i need to smoke and i dont have a cigarete or money to buy them..
[07:23] <madwizard> Choups: This is why sysadmin is a job
[07:24] <madwizard> If anybody could run server 5 minutes a day we all would be runnin Windows Small Business Servers
[07:24] <Choups> good point
[07:25] <Choups> how often do you mantain your server(s) ?
[07:25] <Choups> i mean
[07:25] <Choups> update
[07:25] <Choups> thats it for maintainance, right?
[07:27] <ducasse> Choups: not quite, you need to watch logs, monitor resources etc
[07:28] <Choups> oh
[07:28] <Choups> right
[07:28] <Choups> got it
[07:28] <Choups> ty
[07:28] <Choups> some1 mentioned ubuntu 16.04
[07:28] <Choups> i have Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS
[07:28] <Choups> am i saying something stupid?
[07:29] <Ben64> no
[07:29] <Choups> or is his system more updated than mine?
[07:29] <Ben64> it's a different version
[07:29] <Choups> oh
[07:29] <Choups> the lts thing
[07:29] <Choups> LTS
[07:29] <ducasse> Choups: 16.04 is a more recent release, both are lts
[07:29] <Choups> shouldn't i update to that then?
[07:29] <Ben64> 14.04 was released in April 2014 hence 14.04, and is LTS, which means it is supported for 5 years, so it's good until April 2019
[07:30] <ducasse> Choups: do you need newer packages?
[07:30] <Ben64> yeah if you don't have a reason to, probably not. you will need to get a newer version by April 2019 though
[07:30] <Choups> ok so i use windows, right? and in the windows world, windows 8 is better than windows xp
[07:30] <Choups> so
[07:30] <Choups> i guess 16 is not better than 14
[07:31] <Choups> in ubuntu
[07:31] <Choups> right?
[07:31] <Ben64> you can't compare windows and ubuntu like that
[07:31] <ducasse> Choups: 16 has newer software, if you don't need that there is no reason to upgrade
[07:31] <Choups> wouldn't the server win performance by updating to 16.04?
[07:32] <Ben64> probably not
[07:32] <Choups> why do they make the new version then?
[07:32] <Ben64> because it's newer
[07:32] <Choups> but if it isnt better
[07:32] <Choups> what the point?
[07:32] <Ben64> every 6 months there is a new ubuntu, with newer software
[07:33] <cfhowlett> no one said new versions are not better.
[07:33] <Choups> lol
[07:33] <Ben64> newer isn't necessarily better, but is is newer
[07:33] <Choups> ok i will search ubuntu 14 exploits
[07:33] <Choups> and ubuntu 16 exploits
[07:34] <Choups> if i get exploits for 14 and not for 16
[07:34] <Choups> i will update
[07:34] <Ben64> kinda pointless
[07:34] <Choups> is it?
[07:34] <ducasse> Choups: both get security patches
[07:34] <Ben64> bugs get fixed on both
[07:34] <proxx_> lol
[07:34] <Choups> i dont get this then
[07:34] <Choups> why make something new
[07:34] <Ben64> and since 14.04 has been out longer, you'll probably get more hits from google about it
[07:34] <proxx_> this kid
[07:34] <Choups> if the old is just as good
[07:34] <Choups> whats the point then?
[07:34] <proxx_> Stop wasting this good fella's time
[07:35] <ducasse> Choups: we've told you - new software
[07:35] <Ben64> it's a set schedule for releases, two every year, one every 6 months. there doesn't have to be any big advance for a new version
[07:35] <Choups> but there are advances after all right?
[07:35] <Choups> those advances must mean better
[07:35] <SynfulAck> you guys are getting rekt.
[07:35] <Choups> like better performance
[07:35] <Choups> better code
[07:35] <Choups> better everything
[07:35] <Choups> so newer must be better
[07:36] <Choups> right?
[07:36] <cfhowlett> !enter
[07:36] <Choups> i mean, that the only way it makes any sense
[07:36] <Ben64> it's less old
[07:36] <Choups> ok, one question, does all the old stuff works on the new stuff?
[07:37] <Ben64> no
[07:37] <Choups> oh
[07:37] <Choups> kk
[07:37] <Ben64> note you said "all"
[07:38] <Choups> does all the important stuff then?
[07:38] <Ben64> ask something specific
[07:38] <Choups> apache
[07:38] <Ben64> yes apache still exists, lol
[07:38] <Choups> works on the new os?
[07:38] <Ben64> it's a newer version of apache
[07:39] <Choups> i think thats all i need in my server
[07:39] <Choups> right?
[07:39] <Choups> to make it into a webserver
[07:39] <Ben64> i cannot possibly answer that
[07:39] <Choups> what do you need to know to answer?
[07:39] <Ben64> i don't know what you need for your server...
[07:39] <Ben64> you should
[07:39] <Choups> lol i dont either
[07:39] <Choups> xD
[07:39] <Choups> my first run here
[07:40] <Choups> trying to learn as i go
[07:40] <k1l> Choups: apache is a webserver, yes. and ubuntu ships it in the repos.
[07:40] <Choups> if i fuck up i just restar everything and start again
[07:40] <Choups> no1 dies
[07:40] <Choups> im up for so many hours i cant even see clearly
[07:41] <Choups> but i want to finish this
[07:41] <Choups> so i better get to work
[07:41] <Choups> brb
[07:45] <baxt> Sup yalll
[07:45] <pink_vampire> hi
[07:46] <baxt> Pink_vampire I think I just fell in love
[07:46] <baxt> I mean good morning
[07:46] <pink_vampire> good morning.
[07:46] <Choups> how do i create this kind of auth: http://imgur.com/a/Yazgv
[07:46] <Choups> ?
[07:46] <pink_vampire> how are you?
[07:47] <cfhowlett> pink_vampire, baxt this is the support channel.  please take casual chit chat private or to #ubuntu-offtopic. thank you.
[07:47] <pink_vampire> Choups: on what server??
[07:47] <Choups> vampire are black, not pink
[07:48] <Choups> on mine
[07:48] <baxt> Well I'm sat looking at my screen, knowing I start my night job waiting tables but from now till then I will be learning cryptology. I am coffee.
[07:48] <user007> i know not much about linux, but why do you guys use linux over windows '?
[07:48] <pink_vampire> apache, lighthttpd ngix.. etc..
[07:48] <Guest53723> i know not much about linux, but why do you guys use linux over windows '? ( desktop )
[07:48] <baxt> Sorry
[07:48] <cfhowlett> user007, great topic for ##linux or #ubuntu-offtopic.  not here.
[07:49] <baxt> Because it makes you think
[07:49] <baxt> I like thinking
[07:49] <Choups> lol i hate thinknig
[07:49] <Choups> hate
[07:49] <Choups> i like feeling and acting
[07:49] <Choups> thiking is a waste of time
[07:49] <Guest53723> cfhowlett, i can not join it
[07:49] <Choups> anyway
[07:49] <cfhowlett> ... "it" ...
[07:49] <Choups> does any1 know how to create such authentications?
[07:50] <Choups> i know is a simple thing
[07:50] <cfhowlett> Choups, seriously, take your server questions to the server channel for best results
[07:50] <Choups> lol, and what channel is that?
[07:50] <cfhowlett> !server | Choups
[07:51] <ducasse> Choups: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-password-authentication-with-apache-on-ubuntu-14-04
[07:52] <Choups> ty
[07:52] <k1l> Guest53723: you need to register with freenode first and log in when you want to join the offtopic channel. in here we only focus on technical support.
[07:53] <Guest53723> oh my god
[07:53] <Guest53723> so much work
[08:03] <zzarr> hello!
[08:04] <zzarr> are there commands to turn usb power on/off?
[08:04] <proxx_> yes, does that help :P ??
[08:05] <zzarr> what are they?
[08:06] <teta> what happens if I have a korn shell script and the first line is "<<<<<<<< .mine" ? will it work?
[08:07] <mehdip2007> hi guys i installed skype and last night i found about skypealpha and install that one two now im getting this error whatever i want to do http://paste.ubuntu.com/23254442/
[08:07] <mehdip2007> any idea what should i do?
[08:08] <mehdip2007> its really nerve wreaking
[08:08] <cfhowlett> mehdip2007, purge both.  reinstall the one you want.  note that an ALPHA release should be not expected to work.
[08:08] <mehdip2007> it wont let e
[08:08] <mehdip2007> me*
[08:08] <mehdip2007> to unintall or install
[08:09] <ducasse> mehdip2007: 'sudo apt install -f'
[08:09] <mehdip2007> won do it
[08:09] <mehdip2007> try all of it
[08:10] <ducasse> mehdip2007: 'sudo dpkg -P skypeforlinux'
[08:10] <mehdip2007> i even disable the repo and issue  apt-get clean but it returns error that try to install skypeforlinux but cannot find it
[08:11] <mehdip2007> ducasse, same error :(
[08:13] <mehdip2007> its fixed i should use dpkg -i skypeforlinux.deb
[08:20] <rb1811> Is there anyone who has an idea of OpenStreetMap integration in python? I need the link for basic tutorials? Can somebody help me out?
[08:21] <k1l> rb1811: i guess that is more a topic for either #python or the openstreetmap guys, whereever their channel is :)
[08:22] <rb1811> Do we have such a channel? Can you tell me the name of the channel at least?
[08:23] <k1l> !alis | rb1811
[08:23] <k1l> rb1811: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IRC  their main channel is on another irc network
[08:24] <rb1811> Cool. Thanks.
[08:42] <daemon555> does anybody here know what the default version for javascript on ubuntu 14.04
[08:42] <daemon555> on firefox
[08:47] <r121> help ! my CD/DVD tray opens on start-up .
[08:54] <EriC^^>  /j #linux
[08:58] <montser999> hi
[08:58] <montser999> hi
[08:59] <montser999> who is hacking now
[09:06] <wicope> Hi i have GNOME nautilus 3.10.1 how i can use the OS theme? Thanks
[09:08] <sayur> wicope: you can install theme http://www.noobslab.com/p/themes-icons.html
[09:08] <wicope> yes i do. I use delorean-dark
[09:09] <Choups> guys, i did "sudo apt-get install php7.0 php7.0-mcrypt" but still the php files wont run as php, they will display as txt
[09:09] <Choups> any advice?
[09:10] <Moderator4797> How is everyone?
[09:11] <brunch875> Chopus: did you install apache?
[09:12] <k1l> Choups: did you install libapache2-mod-php ?
[09:12] <brunch875> installing apache2 with php should work out of the box as I remember it
[09:12] <msev--> can someone help me with partitioning, i have 2 disks and 2 OS's and can't create the required 3 partitions for the second OS (for swap, home and /), could someone please guide me, i'd like to install ubuntu :)
[09:12] <k1l> Choups: eventually you need to run a2enmod
[09:13] <msev--> k11 i think we discussed the partitions stuff right
[09:13] <msev--> you guys said something about a extended partition
[09:13] <Moderator4797> msev From what device are you installing ubuntu?
[09:14] <EriC^^> msev--: can you paste the output of sudo parted -l ?
[09:14] <k1l> msev--: wait, you still did not just make an extended partition with gparted from a live usb and create the needed partitions inside that?
[09:15] <msev--> yeah
[09:15] <k1l> msev--: so why not?
[09:16] <msev--> so first question now i have multiple partition 2 + 1 unused space, so i should make 1 partition in windows out of these right
[09:16] <msev--> and then continue in gparted
[09:16] <k1l> msev--: stop
[09:16] <Moderator4797> I've got a (stupid) question, is Java available now for Ubuntu 16.04?
[09:16] <k1l> msev--: forget "windows" in all that. first boot up a ubuntu live usb. then come back here
[09:17] <msev--> ok. but i don't want to overwrite windows 7 :)
[09:17] <msev--> ok gonna come back
[09:21] <Cephlin> Hi, I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 now and I can't find the UK international keyboard layout. I speak some French and require `a to work and ¢ should be the French c for ca. I've done some googling and messing around with the system settings but I can't find it. Any help would be greatly appreciated
[09:21] <Cephlin> I'm fairly sure I had this on 14.05
[09:21] <Cephlin> 14.04*
[09:21] <EriC^^> Cephlin: try settings > text entry
[09:22] <Cephlin> Ahh thanks man
[09:22] <EriC^^> no problem
[09:22] <Cephlin> Clearly labled "Keyboard layout" and "Keyboard Language"... not :p
[09:22] <EriC^^> :D
[09:23] <Cephlin> "English (UK extended WinKeys)" << that's the bad boy!
[09:23] <Cephlin> à
[09:23] <msev--> k11 im back
[09:23] <Cephlin> Ahh :)
[09:23] <Cephlin> Cheers
[09:23] <EriC^^> :)
[09:23] <msev--> Do u want a screenshot of how it looks currently
[09:23] <EriC^^> msev--: yeah
[09:24] <EriC^^> msev--: you can use tab completion for the nickname so it highlights k1l
[09:24] <msev--> Now im from the phone
[09:25] <EriC^^> it's actually k-one-L otherwise he won't get a notice that you talked to him
[09:25] <k1l> msev--: you can use the live-ubuntu to come here, either with webchat or with hexchat
[09:25] <msev--> A webchat good idea
[09:25] <msev--> I will do that
[09:26] <msev--> http://i.imgur.com/sGoz4LB.jpg
[09:26] <msev--> Situation now
[09:26] <k1l> msev--: yes, that makes copy&paste of stuff a lot easier
[09:27] <msevubuntu> ok so im here
[09:27] <k1l> msev--: ok, so you want to keep sda1 and sda2 since that are your windows partitions, right? the rest was just created and doesnt contain data?
[09:27] <msevubuntu> yes
[09:28] <msevubuntu> not sure about sda3 tho
[09:28] <k1l> msevubuntu: ok
[09:28] <msevubuntu> why it has already 3gb filled
[09:28] <msevubuntu> i think it should be empty yes
[09:28] <EriC^^> msevubuntu: try mounting it and see what it has
[09:28] <EriC^^> msevubuntu: open a terminal and type sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt
[09:28] <k1l> msevubuntu: ok, so use the right click on that partitions to delete all of them except sda1 and sda2
[09:29] <msevubuntu> i think its nothing EriC^^
[09:29] <msevubuntu> since it doesnt seem to want to mount
[09:29] <msevubuntu> ok k1l i will delete all just leave sda1 and sda2
[09:30] <EriC^^> msevubuntu: ok
[09:30] <msevubuntu> now i have 292.97gb unallocated
[09:31] <msevubuntu> wait
[09:31] <msevubuntu> shit
[09:31] <k1l_> msevubuntu: ok
[09:31] <msevubuntu> i have 2 disks
[09:31] <msevubuntu> maybe i deleted the ssd partition with windows_
[09:31] <msevubuntu> can i get back
[09:31] <k1l_> msevubuntu: now create one "extended partition" for all the unallocated space
[09:31] <msevubuntu> oh wait no i didn-t
[09:32] <k1l_> msevubuntu: you didnt delete ntfs partitions
[09:32] <k1l_> msevubuntu: and untill you hit the greeen checkmark at the top all changes are only theoretical and not executed
[09:32] <msevubuntu> yeah the ssd was sdb
[09:32] <msevubuntu> i paniced lol
[09:32] <msevubuntu> its all good
 msevubuntu: now create one "extended partition" for all the unallocated space
[09:32] <msevubuntu> ok so now the unallocated into the extended
[09:33] <msevubuntu> if i rightclick i can-t do anything
[09:33] <msevubuntu> how do i make this extended one
[09:33] <EriC^^> msevubuntu: maybe you have to have it run first
[09:33] <EriC^^> try the green checkmark
[09:34] <msevubuntu> aha ok
[09:35] <msevubuntu> hmm error
[09:35] <msevubuntu> couldnt delete the partition
[09:35] <k1l_> msevubuntu: what is the error? is it still mounted? then unmount it first
[09:36] <msevubuntu> oh
[09:36] <msevubuntu> can you give me the command please
[09:36] <wicope> Hi i have GNOME nautilus 3.10.1 how i can use the OS theme? I need change the back-ground color Thanks
[09:36] <k1l_> that should work with "right click" and choose unmount
[09:36] <EriC^^> msevubuntu: try lsblk to see if its mounted
[09:36] <EriC^^> msevubuntu: if it says anything under mountpoint to the far right then it's mounted
[09:37] <msevubuntu> ─sda3   8:3    0 232.9G  0 part /mnt
[09:37] <EriC^^> msevubuntu: type sudo umount /mnt
[09:37] <k1l_> so use right click in gparted and unmount that
[09:38] <msevubuntu> ok all operations successfully completed
[09:38] <msevubuntu> cool now i will try to extend
[09:38] <k1l_> now create on big extended partition
[09:38] <EriC^^> ok try making the extended partition now
[09:38] <msevubuntu> dang i cant still
[09:39] <EriC^^> what does it say?
[09:39] <msevubuntu> aha wait maybe i can
[09:39] <msevubuntu> sorry was too fast lol
[09:39] <msevubuntu> ok so extended partition
[09:39] <msevubuntu> free space preceding should be 0 and following also 0 should i put any label_
[09:40] <k1l_> msevubuntu: doesnt matter
[09:40] <msevubuntu> great it created
[09:40] <k1l_> after that create your partitions you want inside that
[09:40] <msevubuntu> so inside of it i should make 3 partitions right
[09:41] <msevubuntu> file system should be ext4
[09:41] <msevubuntu> or something else
[09:41] <EriC^^> yes ext4 for "/"
[09:41] <EriC^^> and /home if you want a separate /home
[09:43] <msevubuntu> is linux swap the swap
[09:43] <msevubuntu> hehe
[09:43] <Maroon> Cellphones and Linux sucks
[09:43] <Maroon> Really great to surf
[09:44] <msevubuntu> so linux-swap is swap space right
[09:44] <msevubuntu> thanks guys for the help btw
[09:44] <Jakey3> can you install ruby-rvm from apt-get?
[09:45] <msevubuntu> k1l_: and EriC^^ from now on i will know how to do it by myself
[09:45] <msevubuntu> thanks
[09:45] <k1l_> Jakey3: did you look at packages.ubuntu.com or apt search?
[09:48] <Jakey3> k1l_, yes
[09:48] <Jakey3> i didnt see it
[09:50] <k1l_> Jakey3: rvm is a seperate "package" manager and not included in ubuntu
[09:50] <Jakey3> ok
[09:52] <msevubuntu> k1l_: http://imgur.com/a/hWXKj looks legit right
[09:53] <msevubuntu> my next question is where i should put the bootloader
[09:54] <ppf> /dev/sdX
[09:54] <k1l_> msevubuntu: onto the sda. since it needs to be written to the first disk that gets booted
[09:54] <msevubuntu> doesnt the ssd get booted k1l_ first
[09:54] <k1l_> msevubuntu: i dont know your setup with windows and bios
[09:55] <msevubuntu> k1l_: its maybe uefi dunno
[09:55] <k1l_> msevubuntu: but since the ubuntu labeles the sda and sdb from the bios it looks like sda is the first
[09:55] <msevubuntu> k1l_: windows is installed on the ssd
[09:55] <msevubuntu> which is sdb
[09:56] <msevubuntu> can i fix it if its doesnt work this way
[09:56] <ppf> msevubuntu: it doens't matter where you put the bootloader
[09:56] <ppf> as long as you boot from _that_ disk afterwards
[09:56] <msevubuntu> i will post another picture on what i have on offer to choose
[09:56] <ppf> every disk even may contain a different bootloader
[09:56] <ppf> so, for "portability", put it on the linux disk
[09:57] <msevubuntu> dang cant screenshot
[09:57] <msevubuntu> ok so i will just put it on sda
[09:58] <ppf> you should be certain about the uefi question, btw. only with uefi you can boot a modern windows, and use secureboot
[10:00] <EriC^^> msevubuntu: pastebin sudo parted -l
[10:00] <EriC^^> it will show both disks and how they're setup
[10:00] <EriC^^> oh nevermind, just saw the last screenshot
[10:01] <EriC^^> looks like both are in legacy mode so you should be fine, set the bootloader to ubuntu's disk so it doesn't overwrite the windows bootloader in the mbr
[10:01] <EriC^^> then set the bios to boot the ubuntu disk first in the order
[10:01]  * ppf agrees
[10:01] <Maroon> Is it reallly needed that after installation all drivers additionally have to get installed for mp3 and mp4 usage?
[10:02] <EriC^^> Maroon: it's cause it's not open source
[10:02] <ppf> Maroon: those are non-free. The user needs to confirm that they want those
[10:04] <msevubuntu> wait on sda1 there is windows7 loader
[10:04] <Maroon> i see
[10:04] <msevubuntu> does that mean if i put the bootloader on dev/sda it will overwrite it
[10:04] <ppf> msevubuntu: yes
[10:05] <ppf> (didn't you say windows is on sdb?)
[10:05] <b0lw4y> hello
[10:05] <b0lw4y> anybody here? idk how to tell
[10:05] <EriC^^> msevubuntu: yeah i thought you said windows was on sdb
[10:05] <msevubuntu> it is
[10:05] <EriC^^> b0lw4y: yeah we can see you
[10:05] <msevubuntu> but it put the loader on sda1
[10:06] <EriC^^> msevubuntu: if you remove sda does it still boot?
[10:06] <gebruiker> does ubuntu 15.10 support zfs during install?
[10:06] <EriC^^> msevubuntu: that's odd
[10:06] <ppf> msevubuntu: windows doesn't do that, usually
[10:06] <EriC^^> gebruiker: 15.10 is unsupported right now
[10:06] <ppf> try and unplug sda, then boot?
[10:06] <bozenna> hello, is there any fortune-like  \program which can be execute after start-up (login-in in graphical mode)?
[10:06] <gebruiker> EriC^^, what about 16.04 then?
[10:07] <EriC^^> msevubuntu: if you have a windows cd then you can always restore the mbr if you decide to remove ubuntu in the future
[10:07] <ppf> gebruiker: sure.
[10:07] <EriC^^> gebruiker: no idea about zfs support
[10:07] <gebruiker> ppf, interesting have you tried using zfs? curioust to know more
[10:08] <ppf> if not in the gui, you can drop to a terminal and install zfs tools, then manually set things up
[10:08] <ppf> gebruiker: actually no, i'm running btrfs
[10:08] <gebruiker> ppf, which ubuntu version?
[10:08] <ppf> 16.04
[10:09] <msevubuntu> EriC^^: i think i don-t have a windows cd
[10:09] <msevubuntu> because its store bought
[10:09] <gebruiker> ppf, interesting how would your ate btrfs to zfs? Are you runnign it as a desktop?
[10:09] <EriC^^> msevubuntu: you can always copy the mbr to a file prior to installing ubuntu and restore it when you want to remove ubuntu, that also works
[10:09] <David_M> Hi. I downloaded Xubuntu iso and burned it on flash using dd. sudo dd if=xubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4096 sent and recieved data are the same but it shows 1.3 GB size. During download it showed 1,18 GB. What's wrong?
[10:09] <msevubuntu> so based on the partitions
[10:09] <msevubuntu> that you see on the picture
[10:09] <msevubuntu> can you advise me if i should put it on sdb
[10:09] <ppf> gebruiker: no, server. btrfs works perfectly well, and unlike zfs it gives you the option to reconfigure your drive setup live
[10:10] <ppf> other than that, the two are pretty much on par
[10:10] <EriC^^> msevubuntu: we really can't tell from it
[10:10] <b0lw4y> brand new to ubuntu here, anybody care to private chat to answer some questions?
[10:10] <gebruiker> ppf, i am thinking about using zfs on desktop
[10:10] <VDream> Hey guys, can anyone help me with a question on how to block all domains? (example.com OK | example2.com | * REJECT ) the * REJECT does not work :\ (using postfix)
[10:10] <ppf> so it's just a matter of taste, really
[10:10] <EriC^^> msevubuntu: if you boot the pc with sda unplugged it would be known for sure
[10:10] <ppf> zfs is really heavy on the ram
[10:11] <ppf> a good rule of thumb is 1GB of RAM per TB of disk
[10:11] <David_M> ZFS is for servers. You can try XFS.
[10:12] <msevubuntu> EriC^^: i really am not keen on unplugging disks and stuff
[10:12] <gebruiker> ppf / David_M, very intersting, freebsd seems to use it also for desktop purposes is the open-zfs different?
[10:12] <ChetManly> what was before upstart?
[10:12] <ppf> msevubuntu: fdisk -l
[10:13] <ppf> ChetManly: sysvinit
[10:13] <EriC^^> msevubuntu: k1l_ what do you think?
[10:13] <David_M> But FreeBSD is mostly for severs?
[10:13] <ChetManly> ppf: really?
[10:13] <ppf> David_M: no
[10:13] <EriC^^> msevubuntu: i think since the windows loader partition is on sda most likely the windows mbr is also on sda
[10:13] <David_M> What about my first question?
[10:13] <ChetManly> how long has upstart been used ?
[10:14] <msevubuntu> so i should put it on sdb
[10:14] <mib> hi
[10:14] <ppf> ChetManly: a few years
[10:14] <ppf> but  it was more horrible than sysvinit :)
[10:15] <ppf> msevubuntu: run sudo fdisk -l
[10:15] <gebruiker> David_M, pcbsd forks of reebsd, and freebsd.org/gnome has a whole team dedicated to the gnome on freebsd
[10:15] <ppf> there's a Boot column
[10:15] <gebruiker> David_M, curious to know more - already googled a lot
[10:15] <k1l_> msevubuntu: the question about the bootloader is about the MBR of what disk. so its not about sda1, which is a partition, but about the MBR of sda or sdb.
[10:15] <ChetManly> ppf: I thought sysv was old
[10:15] <ppf> ChetManly: yes, it is
[10:15] <ChetManly> like old old
[10:15] <k1l_> msevubuntu: and the bootloader needs to overwrite the windows one, since the windows one cant boot linux.
[10:15] <ChetManly> like preubuntu
[10:16] <ppf> gebruiker: zfs comes from the unix world
[10:16] <msevubuntu> aha ok so it should definately be sda since it says windows loader there
[10:16] <msevubuntu> what about uefu
[10:16] <msevubuntu> uefi
[10:16] <msevubuntu> will it prevent it from booting or not
[10:16] <k1l_> ChetManly: for general talk about init systems and their history better go to #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[10:16] <ppf> msevubuntu: it doesn't matter if you overwrite the windows loader or not
[10:16] <ppf> but you need to use the linux loader  to boot linux
[10:16] <k1l_> msevubuntu: dont confuse sda1 with MBR bootloader
[10:17] <ppf> msevubuntu: pastebin the output of fdisk -l, please :)
[10:17] <k1l_> David_M: your issue with size is the overhead for partitions and stuff. that is fine
[10:17] <msevubuntu> ok
[10:18] <David_M> Thank you.
[10:18] <gebruiker> ppf, i know but why does it not seem to be memory hungry on bsd while it is on linux? My guesses are kernel wise?
[10:18] <gebruiker> David_M, why did you mentioned xfs ? Curous
[10:18] <ppf> no, the memory pressore is the same on unix
[10:18] <msevubuntu> http://pastebin.com/S3p7bpwB
[10:18] <gebruiker> ppf, ubuntubsd comes with zfs too :O
[10:19] <ppf> *pressure
[10:19] <msevubuntu> there is the output
[10:19] <David_M> Because I've read about modern systems and found it better than ext4 and btrfs. I had bad expirience with btrfs.
[10:19] <k1l_> gebruiker: ubuntu has zfs support since 15.10. but i think the installer doesnt support it yet. its included for data partition and container usage. not for root partition usage. while you can still do a zfs root partition manually
[10:19] <gebruiker> ppf, already read a lot about it but this is missing piece of info for me
[10:20] <arkouda> Hello
[10:20] <arkouda> Visit new chat www.greekircnet.gr
[10:21] <EriC^> msevubuntu: let me check on my other laptop what a legacy mbr looks like
[10:21] <msevubuntu> thanks
[10:21] <David_M> I had no problems with zfs while I had them with Arch (dead after kernel update) and Linux Mint (lags and then crash)
[10:24] <Sven_vB> hi :)
[10:24] <Sven_vB> I tried updating my package lists and get a lot of errors like this, what can I do to fix them? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23254832/ "W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security InRelease: At least one invalid signature was encountered.¶ W: The repository 'http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security InRelease' is not signed."
[10:24] <Sven_vB> I've already deleted old files in /var/lib/apt/lists/ , didn't change
[10:26] <Sven_vB> I don't think my network is under attack because only xenial repos are affected, precise updates fine
[10:29] <kbob> hello, which DE for a small Atom laptop (1024x600)?
[10:29] <msevubuntu> kbob perhaps mate or xfce
[10:30] <msevubuntu> i use ubuntu mate on my netbook
[10:30] <Sven_vB> kbob, I run my netbooks with xfce, but install normal ubuntu and then xfce so I get bluetooth
[10:30] <Sven_vB> xubuntu often had problems with my hardware
[10:30] <kbob> ahhhh ok, thanks ... I can install xfce on ubuntu with unity or can be a prob?
[10:31] <EriC^> msevubuntu: i think it's using sda for sure
[10:31] <msevubuntu> ok so i should put it on sda
[10:31] <msevubuntu> cool
[10:31] <EriC^> msevubuntu: sda1 has a boot flag (the *) and sdb1 doesnt
[10:31] <msevubuntu> ok
[10:31] <msevubuntu> does it mean that those guys who sold me the computer didnt install windows on the ssd
[10:31] <msevubuntu> they are gonna get a whooping
[10:32] <msevubuntu> EriC^: so i should choose sda for the bootloader right
[10:32] <EriC^> msevubuntu: we dont know whats on sdb yet really
[10:32] <msevubuntu> cool but i can proceed right
[10:32] <msevubuntu> with the installation
[10:32] <EriC^> msevubuntu: that'll overwrite the windows mbr
[10:33] <EriC^> yeah if you dont mind it overwriting the windows mbr
[10:33] <msevubuntu> if i intend to keep linux on it then no problem right
[10:33] <msevubuntu> i will be able to boot into both oses right
[10:33] <EriC^> otherwise put the bootloader location to /dev/sdb and it should put grub there instead
[10:33] <EriC^> yeah
[10:33] <EriC^> right
[10:33] <msevubuntu> ok its good then
[10:33] <msevubuntu> i shall proceed
[10:33] <EriC^> ok
[10:33] <msevubuntu> thank you guys
[10:34] <msevubuntu> you are cool
[10:34] <kbob> thanks
[10:36] <brunch875> update-initramfs is stuck on apt upgrade
[10:36] <brunch875> should I be concerned?
[10:36] <k1l_> Sven_vB: at first: disable propsed. they are just for automatic testings, not for endusers
[10:36] <k1l_> *proposed
[10:37] <EriC^> brunch875: how long
[10:37]  * EriC^^ still here
[10:37] <k1l_> brunch875: that can take some time. depending on your system speed and load
[10:38] <brunch875> well, I opened a tty to do that like 3 hours ago
[10:38] <brunch875> I'm surprised it's still running (only checked now)
[10:38] <EriC^^> try ctrl+c
[10:38] <k1l_> brunch875: ok, that is too long :)
[10:38] <EriC^^> then sudo dpkg--configure -a
[10:38] <brunch875> another hint:
[10:38] <EriC^^> * sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:39] <brunch875> I did ctrl-Z followed by bg
[10:39] <brunch875> so could that be it?
[10:39] <Sven_vB> k1l_, ok, should I then rety updating, after proposed is disabled?
[10:39] <k1l_> Sven_vB: yeah.
[10:39] <Sven_vB> brb
[10:40] <EriC^^> brunch875: hmm, try "fg"
[10:40] <brunch875> haha okay
[10:40] <brunch875> actually that was just the last printed message
[10:40] <brunch875> 99%
[10:40] <brunch875> but it didn't clean up because it was running on the background I suppose :p
[10:41] <k1l_> Sven_vB: and if its still doesnt run, then you could try to change to the mainservers.
[10:41] <EriC^^> :D
[10:42] <M-JLuc> Hello
[10:42] <M-JLuc> during boot, i cant access the "advanced option" menu
[10:43] <EriC^^> M-JLuc: can you move the highlight up and down at all?
[10:43] <M-JLuc> when choosing this option, displayed window is empty
[10:43] <M-JLuc> there is nothing to move up or down
[10:43] <M-JLuc> nothing is displayed
[10:43] <EriC^^> M-JLuc: ok, pastebin /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[10:43] <k1l_> M-JLuc: then you dont have an older kernel installed?
[10:43] <M-JLuc> and OS boots as usual after time out
[10:43] <EriC^^> M-JLuc: and /etc/default/grub
[10:44] <EriC^^> i think this might be enabled GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true"
[10:44] <M-JLuc> its a MATE, could be on ubuntu 12.04 ou 14.04 - i want to update
[10:45] <M-JLuc> and i havent the session password - hence
[10:45] <EriC^^> M-JLuc: cleanest would be to make 16.04 iso and boot it and backup your stuff and then install
[10:46] <EriC^^> then copy your stuff back
[10:47] <Sven_vB> so I changed the main servers to us.* and also reconfigured my apt proxy to avoid apt-cacher-ng. Same message for security.ubuntu.com, the others just changed hostnames but still not signed. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23254874/
[10:47] <Sven_vB> k1l_, ^
[10:48] <k1l_> Sven_vB: so you are using a proxy
[10:48] <M-JLuc> i've had bad luck with installing recent ubuntu on old hardware
[10:48] <k1l_> Sven_vB: proxies are known to make issues with gpg signing.
[10:48] <M-JLuc> it couldnt install and coulnd boot anymore at all afterward
[10:49] <M-JLuc> so i'm a bit reluctant with taking that risk...
[10:49] <msev--> Grub woek
[10:49] <msev--> Works
[10:49] <EriC^^> M-JLuc: did the live usb work?
[10:49] <EriC^^> msev--: great :D
[10:49] <msev--> But ubuntu doesnt want to boot
[10:49] <Sven_vB> k1l_, that's why I configured it to use my non-caching squid, it has very minimal config to really just forward stuff w/o touching it
[10:50] <M-JLuc> i've not tried yet with this new old computer to upgrade (i couldnt boot on usb on previous trial but maybe usb key wasnt properly prepared)
[10:50] <M-JLuc> http://ubuntu.pastebin.fr/48040 is etc/default/grub
[10:50] <msev--> Windows boots but ubuntu gnome doesnt
[10:51] <EriC^^> msev--: what happens when you choose ubuntu?
[10:51] <msev--> https://imgur.com/dV3cHmC
[10:52] <M-JLuc> http://ubuntu.pastebin.fr/48041 is /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[10:52] <Sven_vB> "To be filled by O.E.M." :D
[10:52] <EriC^^> M-JLuc: you're booted into the ubuntu install right now?
[10:52] <EriC^^> M-JLuc: or a live usb?
[10:52] <M-JLuc> hd install normal booit
[10:53] <M-JLuc> i've not used USB key as for now
[10:53] <EriC^^> msev--: maybe some hdd setting might help, have you tried enabling or disabling ahci?
[10:54] <Sven_vB> k1l_, also tried via TOR, same problem, so it really ought to be a local issue
[10:54] <M-JLuc> without password i wont be able to edit config files probably...
[10:55] <EriC^^> msev--: this seems it might help https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=52766
[10:55] <M-JLuc> and with empty advanced boot menu, i cant set a new paswword... :-/
[10:55] <EriC^^> M-JLuc: yeah, i'd say get the password fixed first
[10:56] <EriC^^> M-JLuc: restart and when you get grub press "e" then go to the line that says linux /boot/vmlinuz..... and add the line "init=/bin/bash"
[10:56] <EriC^^> it should drop you to a root shell with the filesystem readonly, then type mount -o remount,rw /
[10:56] <EriC^^> and change your user's password with passwd <user>
[10:56] <M-JLuc> ok i try - but not sure 'e' does anything
[10:57] <EriC^^> it lets you edit the entry thats highlighted
[10:57] <Sven_vB> M-JLuc, if that doesn't work, you can still boot a live USB and chroot into your installed system
[10:57] <EriC^^> after you edit it, press ctrl+x to boot it
[10:59] <msev--> Eric maybe i will try later
[10:59] <msev--> Hopefully someone will guide me through
[10:59] <M-JLuc> oh when i press "e" on normal Ubuntu option i can edit something begining with "SetParams 'Ubuntu'"
[11:00] <Sven_vB> "then go to the line that says linux /boot/vmlinuz"
[11:00] <M-JLuc> got it
[11:00] <EriC^^> msev--: ok
[11:01] <M-JLuc> with "... ro quiet splash $vt_handoff"
[11:01] <ppf> msev--: what kind of machine is this?
[11:01] <ppf> as in, i386 or amd64?
[11:01] <M-JLuc> and "initrd /boot/initrd.img-3.16..."
[11:01] <mist1231> Hiya guys, i'm having a very hard time cleaning up my boot partition
[11:02] <EriC^^> M-JLuc: yeah, only add in the linux /boot/vmlinuz line
[11:02] <mist1231> i've attempted apt-get autoremove -f and even removing them with dpkg
[11:02] <mist1231> using up dpkg frees up some space but when i try to install something it fills the boot partition back up
[11:02] <M-JLuc> yes, what do i add in that line EriC^^ ?
[11:02] <Sven_vB> mist1231, recovering from KDE? ;)
[11:03] <ppf> msev--: i've seen that twice before, once when i somehow installed an amd64 image on an i386 machine and once when i used unetbootin to create the thumb drive
[11:03] <ppf> and i've got no idea what's wrong with the latter...
[11:03] <mist1231> Sven_vB:  =)
[11:03] <M-JLuc> i add "init=/bin/bash" after that line and before "initrd..;" line EriC^^ ?
[11:04] <Sven_vB> mist1231, so is the problem that lots of packages are scheduled for install that you don't want to install?
[11:04] <EriC^^> M-JLuc: yeah, add it after quiet splash
[11:04] <M-JLuc> so i add it as a new line not as a one-more option
[11:05] <EriC^^> M-JLuc: no, add it between the options
[11:06] <M-JLuc> ok ! so "ro quiet splash init=/bin/bash $vt_handoff"
[11:06] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:06] <mist1231> Sven_vB: i want to run a apt-get upgrade without it failing
[11:06] <EriC^^> mist1231: can you pastebin df -h ?
[11:06] <Sven_vB> mist1231, paste its failure report
[11:07] <Sven_vB> yeah also disk spaces
[11:07] <mist1231> sec
[11:07] <Sven_vB> btw, if it really was KDE, i'd give up and reinstall from scratch. which for me is easy because I optimized for disaster recovery. :)
[11:08] <mist1231> i guess i'm lucky that i'm not =)
[11:08] <mist1231> its just a clean machine that i'm trying to update
[11:10] <M-JLuc> ok EriC^^ wonderlous, i now got a non-empty advanced menu !
[11:11] <M-JLuc> AHHHHHhhhh !
[11:11] <M-JLuc> root console ok
[11:11] <EriC^^> ok
[11:11] <mist1231> http://pastebin.com/6wGvkzpc
[11:11] <EriC^^> M-JLuc: type mount -o remount,rw /
[11:12] <mist1231> the problem seems to be that boot is full which i tried resolving by running an autoremove but that didn't work. tried removing the kernels manually with dpkg but they always return when i do an upgrade
[11:12] <Sven_vB> ok, "gzip: stdout: No space left on device¶ E: mkinitramfs failure cpio 141 gzip 1"
[11:12] <Sven_vB> kt
[11:12] <EriC^^> mist1231: they shouldn't return
[11:12] <Sven_vB> -kt
[11:13] <EriC^^> mist1231: pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep linux-image"
[11:14] <mist1231> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/Rwdh8FNQ
[11:14] <mist1231> also i want to go ahead and thank you both already for taking your time with me =)
[11:14] <Sven_vB> mist1231, in case the clean approaches get too cumbersom, you could try as work-around moving stuff away to another partition using a live USB, and setup mountpoints and/or symlinks to them.
[11:15] <M-JLuc> ok i changed password
[11:15] <M-JLuc> thanks a lot EriC^^
[11:15] <EriC^^> M-JLuc: great, no problem
[11:16] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:16] <EriC^^> mist1231: what does "uname -r" give?
[11:16] <M-JLuc> that lack of init=/.... seems to have been intentionnal initialy
[11:16] <mist1231> 3.13.0-87-generic
[11:16] <M-JLuc> dunno why
[11:17] <EriC^^> mist1231: ok, try sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic
[11:17] <EriC^^> see how that goes
[11:17] <Sven_vB> M-JLuc, "lack" of override = defailt
[11:17] <Sven_vB> *default
[11:18] <mist1231> dependency problems - not removing
[11:18] <M-JLuc> bravo to the smaestro
[11:18] <EriC^^> oh
[11:18] <EriC^^> mist1231: ok, first make some space on /boot so dpkg can resolve the issues
[11:19] <mist1231> http://pastebin.com/B11JBpyX
[11:20] <mist1231> is anything here safe to delete? http://pastebin.com/GCnKZp5V
[11:20] <EriC^^> mist1231: try sudo mv /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-77-generic /
[11:20] <EriC^^> and also sudo mv /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-79-generic /
[11:20] <mist1231> alright did those 2
[11:20] <mist1231> df -h says /dev/sda1                                      236M  181M   44M  81% /boot
[11:21] <EriC^^> ok, try sudo apt-get -f install
[11:21] <mist1231> that worked EriC^^
[11:22] <EriC^^> mist1231: ok, great now to remove the old kernels
[11:22] <mist1231> with autoremove -f?
[11:23] <mist1231> tried purging release 24 and it failed
[11:23] <mist1231> http://pastebin.com/96zvbct3
[11:23] <EriC^^> what did it say
[11:23] <mist1231> see the pastbin
[11:23] <EriC^^> mist1231: try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:24] <EriC^^> then try sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-{83,85,86,88,91,}-generic
[11:25] <Sven_vB> another issue: a lot of packages for servers (e.g. mysql, samba, …) include config to have them run by root as system services on default ports. is there an easy way (for precise or xenial) to opt-out of that, and have the server binaries idle in stand-by, ready to be started by normal users within their restrictions?
[11:26] <mist1231> ok that went through successfully EriC^^
[11:27] <Sven_vB> with "an easy way" i mean especially w/o relying on package maintainers to add the opt-out for each individual server
[11:27] <kushal_kumaran> Sven_vB: take a look at this: https://jpetazzo.github.io/2013/10/06/policy-rc-d-do-not-start-services-automatically/
[11:28] <Sven_vB> kushal_kumaran, thx
[11:28] <mist1231> EriC^^: can i apt-get upgrade now or are we not done yet? =)
[11:28] <EriC^^> mist1231: not yet
[11:28] <mist1231> ok
[11:29] <evga> Hello, I'm looking for a way to create an encrypted disk-file wich is possibly cross platform but also works on ubuntu, I've read that TrueCrypt is dead .. does anyone knows of any alternative ?
[11:29] <EriC^^> mist1231: do sudo mv /initrd.img-3.13.0-77-generic /boot
[11:29] <EriC^^> mist1231: and sudo mv /initrd.img-3.13.0-79-generic /boot
[11:29] <gry> Yuck.
[11:29] <EriC^^> mist1231: then sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-{77,79}-generic
[11:30] <mist1231> done
[11:30] <EriC^^> mist1231: ok, sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic
[11:31] <mist1231> done
[11:31] <EriC^^> !info linux-image-generic trusty
[11:31] <mist1231> this is xenial
[11:31] <Sven_vB> as for my earlier "The repository … xenial-security InRelease' is not signed." problem, another xenial machine just finished update successfully, using my apt-cacher-ng as proxy. unfortunately I lost network to the machine that had the original problem, so I have to postpone that for a few hours :/
[11:31] <mist1231> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[11:31] <EriC^^> mist1231: the latest kernel is 96, once you boot into that one and it works remove the 97 kernel and what's left in dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[11:32] <EriC^^> *87
[11:32] <mist1231> nvm this is not xenial, its trusty...
[11:32] <Haris> hello all
[11:32] <Haris> how to check if a service is enabled for auto-start on next bootup on 14.04 LTS ? say .. for e.g.. apache
[11:32] <kushal_kumaran> evga: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VeraCrypt is apparently a fork of TrueCrypt.  I have no personal experience, though.
[11:32] <mist1231> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/2LNQnUiY
[11:33] <mist1231> so now i just reboot?
[11:34] <EriC^^> mist1231: yeah run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:34] <Haris> is that chkconfig or something else ?
[11:35] <mist1231> ok running
[11:35] <mist1231> that seems to have worked
[11:35] <EriC^^> mist1231: cool
[11:35] <EriC^^> mist1231: sudo apt-get autoclean is always nice
[11:36] <EriC^^> it gets rid of old packages deb files in the cache
[11:36] <mist1231> that cleaned up some kernels
[11:36] <mist1231> and headers
[11:36] <mist1231> safe to reboot?
[11:36] <Bashing-om> mist1231: EriC^^ A quick check : ' ls -al /vmlinuz* ; ls -al /initrd* ; ls -al /boot ' that grun is happy ?
[11:36] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:37] <proxx_> This dude is everywhere
[11:37] <proxx_> damn
[11:37] <mist1231> ls: cannot access /vmlinuz*: No such file or directory
[11:37] <mist1231> ls: cannot access /initrd*: No such file or directory
[11:38] <Haris> got it done
[11:38] <Bashing-om> mist1231: UNgood ! try again ; as " sysop@1404mini:~$ ls -al /vmlinuz* >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 30 Sep 19 14:58 /vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-96-generic lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 30 Aug 29 11:42 /vmlinuz.old -> boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-95-generic " .
[11:40] <mist1231> rebooted and worked fine
[11:41] <EriC^^> mist1231: uname -r gives 96 ?
[11:41] <mist1231> 87
[11:41] <EriC^^> mm
[11:42] <EriC^^> mist1231: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-generic
[11:42] <mist1231> that will install 96
[11:42] <EriC^^> ok
[11:42] <EriC^^> sounds good
[11:43] <mist1231> installed it
[11:43] <EriC^^> ok try rebooting
[11:45] <mist1231> now running 3.13.0-96-generic
[11:45] <EriC^^> cool
[11:46] <mist1231> wohooo i should be fine now then i guess
[11:47] <EriC^^> yup
[11:47] <mist1231> thank you very much! =)
[11:54] <Jakey3> i have an ubuntu 14.04 vm in bridged mode try to ssh in but getting connection refused any ideas?
[11:54] <Jakey3> on virtual box
[12:02] <Jakey3> test
[12:13] <ashishjksqbfk> how to install ubuntu?
[12:15] <proxx_> Burn iso > boot > install
[12:15] <Jakey3> i have an ubuntu 14.04 vm in bridged mode try to ssh in but getting connection refused any ideas?
[12:16] <Jakey3> on vbox
[12:17] <proxx_> Jakey3 does it have an ip in the same network ?
[12:18] <Jakey3> yes
[12:19] <proxx_> Jakey3 can you ping the machine ?
[12:19] <k1l_> Jakey3: bridged means its the same ip as the host?
[12:22] <Jakey3> proxx_, i can ping
[12:23] <Jakey3> k1l_, its not the same ip
[12:23] <k1l_> Jakey3: so are you sure the port and the user are correct? what command do you use and what is the error?
[12:23] <M-Mathias> Dix you ping  your VM ?
[12:24] <Jakey3> ssh a1@192.168.1.3
[12:24] <Jakey3> Connection reset by 192.168.1.3 port 22
[12:24] <M-Mathias> Virtual box or VPs ?
[12:24] <Jakey3> vbox
[12:24] <M-Mathias> The host is an Linux or Windows Machine ?
[12:25] <k1l_> Jakey3: and the user a1 exists on that machine?
[12:25] <Jakey3> yes
[12:25] <k1l_> and the port is 22?
[12:25] <Jakey3> yes
[12:25] <k1l_> did you restart the ssh after making changes there?
[12:26] <Jakey3> the machine has been rebooted
[12:26] <M-Mathias> Your host and your VM
[12:26] <M-Mathias> Pls
[12:26] <Jakey3> reboot the host?
[12:26] <k1l_> Jakey3: start the ssh command with -v and look at the logs on the server into auth.log
[12:26] <M-Mathias> Host is an Ubuntu ?
[12:27] <M-Mathias> VM is another Ubuntu ?
[12:27] <Jakey3> both are ubuntu
[12:27] <M-Mathias> Bridge doesn't work sometimes
[12:27] <M-Mathias> You should use in nat
[12:28] <Jakey3> connection is closed by unknown
[12:28] <Jakey3> M-Mathias, i see
[12:28] <Maroon> How can I turn visual effects in compiz. I remind  me the times where fading windows under linux was aint a problem
[12:32] <Maroon> I found fusion-icon and so forth. that it might be
[12:35] <lab> a
[12:45] <Guest49496> Hello, I am curious about something in Ruby, if i iterate over a hash using |key, value| and in that loop I add elements to it (new key-value) pairs, will the initial loop iterate over these new elements as well?
[12:47] <Guest49496> wrong channel sorry
[12:51] <catwalk> help
[12:51] <catwalk> #help
[12:51] <ppf> !help
[12:52] <newbsduser> n150399
[12:52] <catwalk> !help
[12:54] <vanshita> hi
[12:55] <Maroon> hi
[12:55] <vanshita> Hello! I am new to IRC and i am trying to learn how to use it but i am unable to. Could you please help me?
[12:56] <Maroon> catwalk, what is going on?
[12:56] <Maroon> Which irc application are you using vanshita
[12:56] <vanshita> xchat
[12:56] <lotuscomputers> !irc | vanshita
[12:59] <vanshita> thank you
[12:59] <lotuscomputers> !xchat | vanshita
[13:00] <jesk> hi
[13:00] <eddier_> good morning
[13:00] <jesk> I have a strange effect. My ubuntu desktop keeps screen dimming as soon as no opened window is left
[13:00] <jesk> do you guys have an idea how to disable that?
[13:01] <vanshita> ubottu : yeah, thanks.
[13:04] <Jakey3> how do i list users of a specific group
[13:05] <Jakey3> solved
[13:08] <nia_> hi
[13:09] <smiche> does anyone know why when I nohup a script it starts pretty randomly?
[13:10] <vanshita> hello, i am new to IRC and i am facing a problem in joining a channel of my own choice. could anyone help me?
[13:10] <drue> i'm making an ubuntu16 AMI based off canonical's. i want unattended upgrades, but i don't want any apt stuff running at first boot. i disabled apt-daily.service, yet, apt.systemd.daily still runs at boot time
[13:10] <drue> how can i disable apt.systemd.daily from running at boot time?
[13:11] <lotuscomputers> !systemd | drue
[13:11] <OerHeks> vanshita, maybe you need to register with freenode
[13:11] <OerHeks> !register
[13:12] <vanshita> Oerheks, i have already rgistered
[13:12] <Bashing-om> vanshita: Are you now on hexcaht as your IRC client ?
[13:12] <OerHeks> vanshita, oke, then use it. currently you chat unregistered
[13:12] <vanshita> How do i log in?
[13:13] <vanshita> No, i am using Smuxi now
[13:13] <OerHeks> man smuxi ( i don't know smuxi)
[13:14] <vanshita> i also have hexchat and xchat. you know anyone of them?
[13:14] <smiche> you want to auto-join a channel with smuxi?
[13:15] <vanshita> smiche:No, not auto-join.
[13:18] <smiche> Smuxi -> Preferences -> Servers -> irc.freenode.net -> Edit -> Username & Password ?
[13:20] <vanshita> smiche: yeah,I did that.
[13:25] <vanshita> Hello. I am new to IRC and i am unable to join a channel named #django. can anyone help me?
[13:26] <maddawg1> vanshita, why cant you?
[13:26] <maddawg1> but this is also not #freenode
[13:27] <maddawg1> you should go to #freenode for IRC help or if you have an IRC client some have their own support channels
[13:27] <vanshita> maddawgl : okay
[13:31] <Olof_szary> Hello. I have Willy (15.10) machine. How and to which distro should I update? Could I update painlessly to LTS?
[13:32] <SwedeMike> Olof_szary: yes, updating to 16.04 is your best option. 15.10 is end-of-support.
[13:34] <EriC^^> !eolupgrades | Olof_szary
[13:34] <Olof_szary> ok , I found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes/
[13:37] <Olof_szary> where you guys take release codename from o.O
[13:37] <crazyadm> uname
[13:37] <JonTheNiceGuy[m]> Olof_szary: Mark Shuttleworth picks them at the end of each release
[13:38] <crazyadm> it must be some cool name
[13:38] <Olof_szary> I had to check what Xerus means
[13:39] <OerHeks> 20 days to yakety yak, roasted yak with truffelsauce
[13:40] <xiaozhi> what is this
[13:41] <OerHeks> time to read the topic, xiao [tab]
[13:41] <JonTheNiceGuy[m]> xiaozhi: This is a real-time chat channel where people discuss the Ubuntu project
[13:45] <MelRay> anyone around?
[13:47] <JonTheNiceGuy[m]> Me :)
[13:48] <MelRay> Hey JonTheNiceGuy[m]
[13:48] <JonTheNiceGuy[m]> Hey MelRay :)
[13:49] <MelRay> So I'm trying to figure out a problem with my Apache named virtual host and a second server for webmail, scheduling, etc. I acting strange.
[13:49] <MelRay> I already asked in httpd
[13:50] <MelRay> It is pretty simple. I created two virtual servers using ubuntu-server 16.04..the first is the named virtual host server. SSL and all the rest work just fine. I added a redirect so traffic inbound to http will go over to https as it should
[13:51] <MelRay> My router can only forward 80 and 443 one time. It doesn't matter if I have the second server (webmail) on a different internal LAN ip...I have to assign non common port.in this case 8080
[13:52] <MelRay> So I installed the webmail package and the script allow me to set it to listen on port 8080 instead of 80. It all worked locally and outside coming back to the external static ip from my ISP
[13:53] <dmitris> Hi guys, need help with ubuntu updates, when i run dry upgrade (apt-get upgrade -s | grep Inst) i can't identify security package, all listed packages showned as trusty-updates.
[13:54] <MelRay> The documentation for the webmail states that in order to use the Redirect command I must install apache on the webmail server then enter the Redirect in the correct configuration file which I have done.
[13:55] <de-facto> MelEay you can use nginx to proxy all external requests to port 80 and serve internal lan port 8080 to those
[13:55] <MelRay> However even though my DNS is setup for mail.mydomain.org and I type that in a browser it redirects me to the secure webpage and not to mail.mydomain.org:8080 which is the way it is entered in the .conf file. Any idea why this would be? Shouldn't it just find mail.mydomain.com at port 8080 and show the webmail login page?
[13:56] <MelRay> de-facto: Been there and tried that most are not pertinent to my specific situation..the reverse web proxy would not allow it to resolve upstream to the correct internal LAN ip..thank you though for your input.
[13:58] <JonTheNiceGuy[m]> MelRay ultimately, if Nginx won't resolve upstream, then that's a problem in the nginx config, or possibly in the way your lan is structured, but it should proxy successfully if it's got an internal host.
[13:58] <JonTheNiceGuy[m]> MelRay, however, it sounds like you have a more fundamental problem in your mail app
[13:59] <zartarr> hey guys i installed vmware last night, its a .bundle package
[13:59] <zartarr> when i click on the icon on my screen it actually doesn't run
[13:59] <zartarr> anyone can troubleshoot why nothing happens?
[13:59] <zartarr> or if the know how to uninstall it so i can run the installer again
[14:00] <JonTheNiceGuy[m]> MelRay, the mail app should be providing links like <a href="/path/to/app?stuff"> but instead it sounds like it's providing the links like <a href="http://mail.mydomain.org/path/to/app?stuff">
[14:00] <zartarr> https://askubuntu.com/questions/265192/how-do-i-install-vmware-player-from-a-bundle-file
[14:00] <zartarr> thats what I had done.
[14:00] <OerHeks> ask in #vmware ? it is not opensource at all
[14:00] <JonTheNiceGuy[m]> MelRay; so this means you'll need to edit the config in your mail app to use the port number as well as the hostname of the server (if you can!)
[14:01] <zartarr> OerHeks: i didn't know that channel existed! thanks
[14:02] <zykotick9>  /wc
[14:05] <w6equj5> Hi all, I had a Win8 computer that died and I'm trying to access its hard drive (that I put in an external case) but I can't mount it because it says it's hibernating. Do I have options?
[14:05] <EriC^^> w6equj5: yes, try sudo mount -o ro /dev/sdxY /mnt
[14:05] <EriC^^> w6equj5: it will mount it readonly
[14:07] <RonWhoCares> Is anyone able to tell the steps needed to resolve my problem?  I've posted it here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/39783289/ubuntu-16-05-flash-upgrade-from-version11-2-202-635-to-23-0-0-162
[14:08] <DiegoC> Hello
[14:08] <EriC^^> hi
[14:08] <RonWhoCares> hi DiegoC
[14:09] <OerHeks> RonWhoCares, again: check launchpad for those pps's if they have packages for xenial
[14:09] <JonTheNiceGuy[m]> RonWhoCares answered your SO query. Probably should have been on the Ubuntu site.
[14:09] <OerHeks> RonWhoCares, and 2nd part: dont  download from adobe, it is not going to work, use our downloads
[14:09] <DiegoC> i have a big problem, someone can help me?
[14:10] <OerHeks> !flash
[14:10] <OerHeks> !pepperflash
[14:10] <EriC^^> DiegoC: explain the problem
[14:10] <w6equj5> EriC^^, Great it worked, thanks
[14:11] <EriC^^> w6equj5: cool, no problem
[14:11] <RonWhoCares> JonTheNiceGuy[m]: This file doesn't exist /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:11] <DiegoC> i have installed ubuntu on my Chuwi Hi12 but now i can't see nothing about my battery
[14:12] <MelRay> JonTheNiceGuy[m]: Thanks yes I did it has a webadmin interface....but during the installation it allowed me to use port 8080 instead of 80 because that is already tied up for my web server named virtual host...Eventually I have read the docs and it will allow me to use the existing ssl certificate it created during install and change the listen port in webadmin.
[14:12] <RonWhoCares> JonTheNiceGuy[m]: The other file has two rows   deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/cesar-crea-si/eviacam/ubuntu xenial main
[14:12] <RonWhoCares> # deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/cesar-crea-si/eviacam/ubuntu xenial main
[14:13] <OerHeks> deb-src is source code, not needed unless you want to build it yourself
[14:13] <MelRay> The frustrating part is if I enter mail.mydomain.org:8080 it resolves perfectly...if I don't append the port number it goes to the static page I currently have in place for www.mydomain.org...really confusing since I have Apache using the redirect command...I was told to pass it Proxy instead of redirect...so I'll try that...thanks for your ideas!
[14:14] <DiegoC> please help me :(
[14:14] <MelRay> DiegoC: Please ask a question :-)
[14:15] <petko> hello
[14:15] <JonTheNiceGuy[m]> RonWhoCares: Basically, you have a problem in the sources that Apt is using. It's unrelated to the fact you're trying to install Flash - you've added a PPA at some point in the past which either no longer exists, or doesn't have files for your architecture/release.
[14:16] <de-facto> MelRay you can only forward port 80 of your router to one internal computer in your LAN. on that computer you can have a http server (like nginx) serve own files, but also proxy requests to other computers in lan (and also applications on other ports on the same computer). So you could have client -> port 80 on your router -> nginx on port 80 on lan -> mail ap on any port or computer in your lan (e.g. port 8080 on another computer in lan)
[14:16] <OerHeks> DiegoC, no cure for that, http://techtablets.com/forum/topic/linux-mint-on-a-chuwi-hi10-tablet/  touchscreen/battery/soundcard
[14:16] <JonTheNiceGuy[m]> RonWhoCares: You can either use the software sources icon in your control panel to remove the Pidgin PPA, or go looking for the file which contains the line.
[14:16] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[14:17] <DiegoC> ops crash
[14:17] <OerHeks> john-mcaleely, sources.list does not contain ppa's anymore, they have their own instance under /sources.list.d/ folder
[14:17] <JonTheNiceGuy[m]> Or use that /\ :)
[14:17] <EriC^^> DiegoC: OerHeks answered "DiegoC, no cure for that, http://techtablets.com/forum/topic/linux-mint-on-a-chuwi-hi10-tablet/  touchscreen/battery/soundcard "
[14:18] <OerHeks> oops john-mcaleely , JonTheNiceGuy[m] ^ ^
[14:18] <john-mcaleely> :-)
[14:18] <DiegoC> Thanks eric, i have read it but i don't find solution for my battery
[14:19] <JonTheNiceGuy[m]> True, OerHeks, but if he's copying & pasting from random sources, you never know *where* they might have put it :D
[14:19] <de-facto> MelRay you can have nginx decide where the request would be server (own or upstream) by the hostname (e.g. mail.host.com)  and by the uri path (e.g. host.com/mail/...)
[14:19] <DrGrov> Good day to everyone! Is it a safe bet to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 via the update manager? Or should I preferrably do a clean install?
[14:20] <OerHeks> DrGrov, my advise: always prepare an USB before hitting the upgrade button
[14:20] <DrGrov> OerHeks: Just a quick backup that is ?
[14:20] <OerHeks> and if you do not have a backup, your data is not important :-D
[14:21] <DrGrov> OerHeks: Will the upgrade itself recognize my SSD which has 14.04 and the 2nd hard drive which has my / home ?
[14:21] <de-facto> !ltsupgrade | DrGrov
[14:21] <DrGrov> OerHeks: Yes, I do have backups. Always ;-)
[14:21] <RonWhoCares> OerHeks: Do I need to include more subdirectories sudo ppa-purge ppa:ppa.launchpad.net/pidgin-developers
[14:21] <OerHeks> i was pointing to the 16.04.1 iso, put it on usb just in case something goes wrong, you can fix it or just go on with a clean install
[14:22] <sarek> whats the standard python equivalent to ./config make make install? I see a 'makefile' and setup.py
[14:22] <DrGrov> OerHeks: Good thing, clean USB it is then. That is probably the safe bet as it has been previously as well :)
[14:22] <OerHeks> RonWhoCares, same line as you added it
[14:22] <DrGrov> OerHeks: I just wanted to make sure if something had changed. But 14.04 does have still some support in it, 2019 or?
[14:23] <OerHeks> DrGrov, 2019 yes.
[14:23] <MelRay> de-facto: I read the documentation on nginx and the conf file that needs to be created/modified. When I followed those instructions and included both the internal LAN ip's for web server/mail server with nginx having the port forwards coming to it from the router I was unable to see either the web server or mail server. I'm sure it was something that I didn't know to do...seems easier just to install apache on the webmail and edit 000-default.conf and enter
[14:23] <MelRay>  ProxyPass / http://mail.domain.org:8080 and have done with it...
[14:24] <DrGrov> OerHeks: Good, then probably best to do the install itself at a better time.. I have no patience at the moment to fiddle in the 2nd hard drive as / home :-D
[14:25] <de-facto> MelRay sure apache can do this too, as can nginx lighttpd and most of the modern http servers. doesnt really matter which one you choose, its mostly personal preference i guess
[14:29] <DiegoC> crashed again...
[14:29] <DrGrov> Is it possible to get rid of Adobe Flash, the flashplugin-installer, on 14.04 and not causing errors when using Chrome?
[14:30] <DiegoC> pleasse help me with a proble of my battery
[14:31] <S3lfL0rd> Hello! I have a question. I have latest ubuntu build on my laptop and recently when I boot the machine, I get this error: http://i.imgur.com/sWXptxx.jpg - I have to hit the escape button and boot ubuntu from EFI file for grub.
[14:31] <S3lfL0rd> Does anyone know how I can fix this so the OS boots automatically?
[14:31] <OerHeks> DiegoC, again: *no* cure for that, http://techtablets.com/forum/topic/linux-mint-on-a-chuwi-hi10-tablet/  for fixing touchscreen/battery/soundcard
[14:31] <EriC^^> S3lfL0rd: try changing the boot order
[14:32] <OerHeks> boot is set to bootrom/pxe
[14:32] <S3lfL0rd> Do you know how I would change that?
[14:32] <de-facto> DrGrov i think chrome (from google repo) includes the flash, if you use chromium-browser from ubuntu repos the flash package is optional with pepperflashplugin-nonfree package
[14:32] <DiegoC> ah o.o ok thank you very much
[14:32] <OerHeks> ESC/DEL/F2/F10 .. check your manual howto get into the bios
[14:32] <Southern_Gentlem> DrGrov, chrome uses its own builtin flash player
[14:32] <DrGrov> de-facto: Ah I see, thank you.
[14:33] <DrGrov> Southern_Gentlem: So it is safe to get rid of the flashplugin-installer then?
[14:33] <Southern_Gentlem> yes
[14:33] <DrGrov> Southern_Gentlem: Is there anything else Flash related to remove than just the awful flashplugin-installer?
[14:34] <S3lfL0rd> So in order to fix this, I need to get into my bios? Would it be easier to just reinstall the OS?
[14:35] <DrGrov> Southern_Gentlem: Seems to be good, just that flashplugin-installer still hanging around. Thank you for the kind and helpful advice.
[14:35] <OerHeks> S3lfL0rd, you might as well buy a new laptop. you have changed this somehow, do it again, but then set boot to hdd
[14:36] <RonWhoCares> OerHeks: I've got the source errors resolved
[14:40] <pkhaxorz> hey, anyone here?
[14:40] <slacko_28090> Hello
[14:41] <slacko_28090> We are all here, sleeping or having coffee
[14:41] <pkhaxorz> so I downloaded some malformed png file
[14:41] <pkhaxorz> I forget when
[14:41] <pkhaxorz> and if I open a folder with it inside in nautilus
[14:42] <pkhaxorz> it creates a giant ass memory leak that will eat all the ram and swap it possibly can
[14:42] <OerHeks> pkhaxorz, easy on the enter please.
[14:42] <pkhaxorz> sorry, habit from older days of IRC
[14:42] <pkhaxorz> similarly, if I try opening it up in GIMP, it will make a giant memory leak then crash GIMP
[14:43] <pkhaxorz> but I think the nautilus behavior is more interesting
[14:43] <skinux> I'm having trouble with MySQL (Maria), since updating I couldn't connect to root with HeidiSQL or PHP scripts. I've created a MySQL user and granted all privileges, but still can't connect.
[14:44] <pkhaxorz> I'm wondering how to report this as a bug.
[14:44] <OerHeks> skinux, you might as well ask in #ubuntu-server
[14:45] <RonWhoCares> OerHeks: I just tried searching for " flashplugin-installer " in the software center.  There was no match
[14:45] <vishi> hello can you please help me to install in ubtunu ls help
[14:45] <vishi> *ubuntu
[14:45] <Kevo> I have Ubuntu 16.04.1 running on a MacBook White Unibody. Everything seems to work quite well atm except for it hangs on reboot or shutdown. I don't see any errors, last line in terminal is 1410.551990 reboot: Restarting System, then it just sits there. Any ideas how to troubleshoot or fix this?
[14:46] <OerHeks> RonWhoCares, tip: install synaptic, much more detailed softwarecenter with extended search/filter options
[14:46] <OerHeks> !info synaptic
[14:46] <pkhaxorz> also, nautilus in general is buggy AF for some reason. If I open up certain files, generally videos, nautilus will hide in the background until I close all other windows and alt-tab to an empty desktop.
[14:46] <pkhaxorz> the copy dialog will disappear as well if I alt-tab away
[14:47] <lordPoseidon> Hello I need help the wifi of my ubuntu is not working
[14:47] <lordPoseidon> Please help me about this isue
[14:48] <vishi> pls help me to install wifi driver in ubuntu
[14:48] <lordPoseidon> hello
[14:49] <RonWhoCares> OerHeks: this is already installed
[14:49] <lordPoseidon> vishi: is your wifi is not working too
[14:52] <RonWhoCares> OerHeks: This is a nice program
[14:54] <OerHeks> softwarecenter gives metapackages only. this tool should be standard too, my opinion.
[14:56] <RonWhoCares> I just installed the 64 bit Flash --- what matches my system.  I am still getting the 'your adobe flash player is out of date' error.  Do I need to reboot?  The flash that just installed was version 11.2.202.635   The flash web site says 23.0.0.162 is the current version
[14:56] <trijntje_> I have a weird problem, Every time I open a youtube movie the sound for 'CubeUtils' in the sound menu gets reset to 30%, and I have to manually put it back to 100% to hear the sound. How can I fix this?
[14:57] <hejkki> hi. i'd like to run 2 times same program with other user account locally same time (for example with my name and my wifes name i would run anki)
[14:57] <trijntje_> RonWhoCares: how did you install it?
[14:58] <RonWhoCares> trijntje_: I *just* installed it with Synaptic Package Manager
[14:58] <hejkki> i'm trying to do it like this: xhost +local:user2 ; gksudo -u user2 anki
[14:58] <hejkki> but anki seems not to open correctly
[14:58] <hejkki> works for gedit for example, but not for anki...
[14:58] <trijntje_> RonWhoCares: do you have the exact package name?
[14:58] <hejkki> it hangs
[15:00] <RonWhoCares> trijntje_: There was an exact match.  It showed version 11.2.202.635 .  Synaptic wanted to uninstall 2 other programs because of a conflict.  I agreed and clicked apply.
[15:00] <hejkki> are there any other ways to do it?
[15:02] <trijntje_> RonWhoCares: I think that version is the latest that is available for ubuntu
[15:02] <hejkki> oh, never mind... anki supports multiple users by it self, without doing it like i was trying :D
[15:03] <trijntje_> RonWhoCares: its better to talk here, so that other users can jump in or benefit from solutions we find
[15:05] <trijntje_> I have a weird problem: Every time I open a youtube movie the sound for 'CubeUtils' in the sound menu gets reset to 30%, and I have to manually put it back to 100% to hear the sound. How can I fix this?
[15:08] <skinux> Well, not getting any answers in #ubuntu-server
[15:09] <tatixz> "ubottu" lovely :)
[15:11] <RonWhoCares> Here's the scoop.  I am 39 years old.  One of the youth I am supporting would like to be able to play bowling with me through the www.Pogo.com web site.  It means I can speak into his life and support him.  I keep being re-directed to the http://game3.pogo.com/error/flava-upgrade-flash.jsp .  Before I came on here yesterday I tried the "Update Adobe Flash Player" link.  When I tried the 'APT...
[15:11] <RonWhoCares> ...for Ubuntu 10.04+' option I was getting an error about an upgrade failure followed by a prompt that I have the latest Flash version installed.  When I clicked on the 'Still experiencing issues? troubleshooting' is when it said I have version 11.2.202.635 and need to upgrade to 23.0.0.162  .  The best I can think of right now is to reboot my computer and see if this resolves the pogo.com prompt.
[15:12] <gebruiker> alright
[15:12] <gebruiker> i downloaded 16.04 and booting it up in virtualbox
[15:12] <gebruiker> it never reaches the GUI
[15:12] <gebruiker> just some weird snow like color
[15:12] <gebruiker> wtf
[15:13] <tatixz> Ron: Never download a flash upgrade from an unofficial site.
[15:13] <trijntje_> gebruiker: what settings did you use for virtualbox?
[15:14] <gebruiker> default one
[15:14] <domewq> Hey... I'm a 16.04 user... fresh install - I chose to encrypt the whole disk on install... and after installing proprietary nVidia drivers... and it doesn't take the crypt password at the prompt (and the prompt is in really low resolution) - however if you boot up in non-graphical recovery mode (for a normal boot at the menu choice) it all works fine.  Irritating bug, any fix?
[15:14] <gebruiker> just created the ubuintu, it said 564 bit i said ok then i booted it and selected the iso
[15:14] <gebruiker> trijntje, i see the  boot up screen
[15:14] <gebruiker> but never the Xwindows
[15:15] <trijntje_> gebruiker: you probably have to set up viirtualbox so that the guest has at least the minimal requirements for ubuntu
[15:15] <tatixz> domewq, had the exact same problem. Couldn't fix it, so I decided to boot in command line mode. Works perfectly.
[15:15] <gebruiker> trijntje, pcbsd boots up fine with X working
[15:15] <gebruiker> trijntje, debian too
[15:15] <domewq> tatixz, what option does that?
[15:15] <Kevo> I found a fix for my hang at reboot and shutdown. Needed to add reboot=pci to grub kernel options
[15:15] <domewq> tatixz, you'd think this'd be the kind of irritating bug that'd be found in even the briefest of testing
[15:16] <trijntje_> gebruiker: could be, ubuntu ubuntu has its own requirements, and if you're system doesn't meet those it won't work properly
[15:16] <trijntje_> domewq: well, are you part of the iso testing team? ;)
[15:16] <domewq> trijntje_, i would be if I knew a) that existed b) how to sign up :P
[15:16] <trijntje_> I have the same issue though, I'll agree its a bit anoyin :0
[15:17] <gebruiker> trijntje, so what do i need to setup differently?
[15:17] <tatixz> @domewq, I edited the grub config in order to boot in text mode
[15:17] <trijntje_> domewq: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[15:17] <gebruiker> trijntje, i just rebooted the virtualbox and just selected the install option
[15:18] <trijntje_> gebruiker: It depends on how much RAM/CPU cores your system has
[15:18] <tatixz> @domewq This bug is certainly related to the nvidia drivers, because it started occuring after I've installed the package "nvidia-363"
[15:19] <gebruiker> trijntje, 3 gb
[15:19] <trijntje_> I have: 2048 MB RAM for the virtual system, 1 CPU, all hardware acceleration options on, and 32 MB video memory
[15:19] <gebruiker> trijntje, it meets the requirements on the ubuntu website
[15:19] <trijntje_> gebruiker: that is just on the edge of what's possible
[15:20] <trijntje_> gebruiker: yes, but your system uses RAM, and the virtual system also uses RAM, so you have to have twice the minimum requirements
[15:20] <trijntje_> you might want to use a lighter version of ubuntu in virtualbox, like lubuntu
[15:20] <gebruiker> trijntje, brb
[15:21] <trijntje_> RonWhoCares: I'd contact the website, they don't detect flash on ubuntu properly
[15:21] <RonWhoCares> trijntje_: ok
[15:21] <trijntje_> or maybe look into if its possible to have firefox lie about which version of flash it's using
[15:21] <trijntje_> something like a "user agent string" for flash
[15:27] <sergio__> hi
[15:28] <trijntje_> I have a weird problem: Every time I open a youtube movie the sound for 'CubeUtils' in the sound menu gets reset to 30%, and I have to manually put it back to 100% to hear the sound. How can I fix this?
[15:28] <RonWhoCares> It is the latest version.  Synaptic Package Manager says so
[15:40] <RonWhoCares> I am completing their support form now
[15:46] <RonWhoCares> Thank you all for your help
[15:47] <terrible> it is possible to notice when someone access to my machine via ssh or another way from the log???
[15:50] <ducasse> terrible: look at /var/log/auth.log
[15:50] <terrible> ducasse: yes but what line should i look for?
[15:51] <cdorsal_> Has anyone had a configuration where you want to allow an external computer (running any OS) connect via WiFi to an Ubuntu system that has eth0 and eth1 with static IP addresses and a usb WiFi dongle? I tried a few guides, but they all assume WAN or DHCP. I'm kind of at a loss.
[15:51] <cdorsal_> I essentially want to send commands over WiFi from an external laptop to the Ubuntu system that's talking to the network connected by both eth0 and eth1. I also want to be able to listen to the traffic on eth0 and eth1 from the external laptop, which would be connected over WiFi to wlan0.
[15:52] <ducasse> terrible: sshd[27169]: Accepted publickey for username from ip.ad.re.ss
[15:53] <nacc> cdorsal_: are you asking ubuntu to serve as your AP, you mean?
[15:53] <nacc> cdorsal_: what do you mean "connect via WiFi" otherwise?
[15:53] <terrible> ducasse: alright and another protocol i mean what other ways can someone access my machine??
[15:54] <Southern_Gentlem> ok does ubuntu have anything like fpaste --sysinfo in the fedora world
[15:54] <cdorsal_> yeah, ap is what I was thinking
[15:54] <ducasse> terrible: that depends on what services you have running
[15:54] <Southern_Gentlem> cdorsal_,  was ap answering to me ?
[15:55] <nacc> Southern_Gentlem: i don't know what fpaste does?
[15:55] <Southern_Gentlem> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/439142/47525087
[15:55] <nacc> Southern_Gentlem: but presuming it just pastebins, there's pastebinit
[15:55] <Guest84811> 有中国人吗
[15:55] <Southern_Gentlem> nacc,  look at the paste
[15:55] <lotuscomputers> !zh | Guest84811
[15:56] <ankesh> hello
[15:56] <nacc> Southern_Gentlem: no, i don't think there is
[15:56] <ankesh> is there any one
[15:56] <cdorsal_> nacc: I've tried using wlan0 as an ap and infrastructure without success
[15:56] <lotuscomputers> !ask | ankesh
[15:56] <Southern_Gentlem> nacc,  ok
[15:56] <nacc> cdorsal_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/180733/how-to-setup-an-access-point-mode-wi-fi-hotspot ?
[15:57] <ankesh> i am unable to rum vm ware workstation!!
[15:57] <ankesh> how to fix
[15:57] <cdorsal_> nacc: will that work with eth0 and eth1 using static ip addresses?
[15:57] <nacc> cdorsal_: dunno :/
[15:58] <terrible> ducasse: ok first i dont have ssh installed on my system and the log say it this Sep 19 13:15:32 hp gnome-keyring-daemon[1453]: The SSH agent was already initialized
[15:58] <nacc> ankesh: give more information than that
[15:58] <cdorsal_> nacc: I've tried that route before, but the problem I run into is that wlan0 ends up being on 10.x.x.x and eth0 and eth1 are on 172.x.x.x
[15:58] <terrible> ducasse: ok first i dont have ssh installed on my system and the log say this Sep 19 13:15:32 hp gnome-keyring-daemon[1453]: The SSH agent was already initialized that is normal?
[15:58] <Moxxie> Greetings all!
[15:58] <Moxxie> This is Moxxie how do you do?
[15:59] <Moxxie> Any other Ubuntu experts onboard?
[15:59] <ducasse> terrible: that is an ssh _agent_, those are for accessing remote systems through ssh with public keys
[15:59] <ducasse> terrible: nothing to do with logins to your system
[15:59] <cdorsal_> Moxxie:Have you had a configuration where you want to allow an external computer (running any OS) connect via WiFi to an Ubuntu system that has eth0 and eth1 with static IP addresses and a usb WiFi dongle? I tried a few guides, but they all assume WAN or DHCP. I'm kind of at a loss.
[15:59] <Moxxie> Yes
[16:00] <Moxxie> What are you looking for specifically, cd?
[16:00] <cdorsal_> Moxie: I essentially want to send commands over WiFi from an external laptop to the Ubuntu system that's talking to the network connected by both eth0 and eth1. I also want to be able to listen to the traffic on eth0 and eth1 from the external laptop, which would be connected over WiFi to wlan0.
[16:00] <Moxxie> Wifi configuration with an external computer?
[16:00] <gebruiker> guys
[16:00] <gebruiker> how to calculate the required amout of swap space?
[16:00] <cdorsal_> Moxxie: My ubuntu system will be an ap
[16:00] <Moxxie> I usually use a Dynamic IP address, not so much Static
[16:00] <Moxxie> Application?
[16:01] <cdorsal_> Moxxie: The remote laptop will be used to sniff the ethernet packets on eth0 and eth1 (whos IP addresses are static), but can only be connected over wifi to the ubuntu system.
[16:01] <Moxxie> Ah, I see
[16:01] <Moxxie> Have you tried combining it with Wireshark for instance?
[16:01] <cdorsal_> Moxxie: The remote laptop also needs to be able to ssh, scp, etc.
[16:02] <debkad> gebruiker: deend on what you want
[16:02] <debkad> depend*
[16:02] <gebruiker> debkad, what are the options?
[16:02] <gebruiker> desktop usage
[16:02] <debkad> sorry nerdy keyboard
[16:02] <cdorsal_> Moxxie: I have, but I'm not seeing any packets from eth0 and eth1
[16:02] <EvilRob> How do I execute a script when resuming from suspend in 16.04?
[16:03] <terrible> ducasse: ok you mention that it depends on what service im running so how could i know which services can someone access to my machine?
[16:03] <Moxxie> Alright
[16:03] <Moxxie> Sounds like a connection problem
[16:03] <cdorsal_> Moxxie: I've tried making the ubuntu system a NAT router, but I can't connect to it wirelessly. I've tried making it a hotspot, but then wlan0 is on 10.x.x.x and eth0 and eth1 are on 172.x.x.x
[16:03] <debkad> gebruiker: if you use hibernation or appications that need swap than make the swa^p disk/file as big as ossible
[16:03] <Moxxie> Goes back to default, yes that's what it's suppose to do
[16:03] <debkad> possible*
[16:04] <Moxxie> Have you tried accessing it through different ports other than default 80?
[16:04] <Moxxie> Try 44
[16:04] <gebruiker> debkad, what type of apps require lots of swap?
[16:04] <cdorsal_> Moxxie: I'll try that.
[16:04] <debkad> gebruiker: as an example, some video editors, gimp ...
[16:04] <Moxxie> Usually by switching the ports around that works
[16:04] <Moxxie> Also try running it in vanilla, see if there's a difference
[16:05] <cdorsal_> Moxxie: Just so I understand, is bridging ethX to wlanX Ubuntu a pitfall?
[16:05] <Moxxie> Hmm
[16:05] <Moxxie> Not exactly
[16:05] <Moxxie> I've had Portable Ubuntu and Desktop installed
[16:05] <gtxbb> cdorsal_, not supported by linux kernel, can't do on any distro
[16:05] <Moxxie> As a recall, it's either a port change or running in vanilla with the change...
[16:06] <cdorsal_> gtxbb: that's what I was afraid of
[16:06] <Moxxie> ^what he/she said
[16:06] <gtxbb> cdorsal_, you use masquerad with iptables
[16:06] <catbeard> hey so i need to resize /boot but i also have a /boot/efi do i need to do anything after that?  also, i have ecryptfs on boot
[16:06] <cdorsal_> Moxxie & gtxbb: I'm following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[16:06] <Moxxie> NAT is pretty old
[16:06] <catbeard> not like /boot but like on-boot
[16:06] <cdorsal_> And this one: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119787
[16:06] <ducasse> terrible: you need to know what you have installed and running, for logins those could be ssh or telnet for example. you can see which services are listening to network ports with 'netstat -tulpn' (but you need to know how to read the list).
[16:06] <Moxxie> Greetings adolf!
[16:06] <Moxxie> Hopefully you won't be taking over the world today? :)
[16:07] <catbeard> Moxxie: are you Mad?
[16:07] <Moxxie> Hahaha! Why yes, I am!
[16:07] <catbeard> :)
[16:07] <Moxxie> I am a MAD Scientist, how do you do?
[16:07] <Moxxie> We all become mad eventually, one would guess but back to OP's question
[16:07] <catbeard> Handsome Jack here
[16:07] <Moxxie> Don't get jacked by the Handsome Jack they say
[16:08] <cdorsal_> Moxxie: Are you suggesting I don't use NAT?
[16:08] <catbeard> anywho, any tips on quickly resizing /boot{,/efi} ?
[16:09] <OerHeks> catbeard, with encryption, no.
[16:09] <Moxxie> I see the guide here
[16:09] <Moxxie> Yes
[16:09] <ReGoR> hello
[16:09] <Moxxie> I've used NAT in the past, mostly for older configurations
[16:09] <EvilRob> How do I execute a script when resuming from suspend in 16.04?
[16:09] <catbeard> actually, it might be just cryptswap
[16:09] <catbeard> how do i disable that?
[16:09] <cdorsal_> Moxxie: So what would you suggest I try instead?
[16:10] <Moxxie> Try running it as a wired configuration
[16:10] <ReGoR> amýnýza cakýyým
[16:10] <ReGoR> yarrak kafalýlar
[16:10] <Moxxie> If you can, it's better to work WIRED first before wireless
[16:10] <Moxxie> That way you have direct access
[16:10] <Moxxie> Try WIRED in vanilla form
[16:10] <catbeard> Are we talking about coffee or cat6?
[16:10] <nacc> cdorsal_: to be clear, then your system is working as a wifi AP, you just need to fix the routing structure internal to your system to connect the two networks
[16:10] <Moxxie> CAT6e is the most recent catbeard
[16:11] <catbeard> right
[16:11] <Moxxie> Very cheap to find on amazon now, cost about $30-$20 a box.
[16:11] <cdorsal_> Moxxie: So, wired is fine, because I can bridge the wired connections easily, but I physically won't be able to access the ubuntu system
[16:11] <catbeard> well actually there's about to be a new IEEE release for i think 50Gbps
[16:11] <catbeard> may be wrong
[16:11] <cdorsal_> nacc: can you please elaborate?
[16:11] <terrible> ducasse: i have telnet installed
[16:11] <Moxxie> What messages are showing cd?
[16:11] <Moxxie> If you can upload to pastebin or bucket
[16:11] <catbeard> http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/interfaces-modules/transceiver-modules/white-paper-c11-733106.html
[16:12] <Moxxie> I'm more visual than I am text though I can do both.
[16:12] <cdorsal_> Moxxie: I'm not currently at the system now unfortunately.
[16:13] <cdorsal_> Moxxie: Is it possible to route traffic from 10.x.x.x to 172.x.x.x?
[16:13] <Moxxie> Yes
[16:13] <Moxxie> The default is 198.xxx.xxx...
[16:13] <Moxxie> I usually see 10.x.x.x on android cellphones...
[16:14] <cdorsal_> Moxxie: How would one do that? Sorry, I'm a noob to these network tricks.
[16:14] <ducasse> terrible: that is a horrible protocol for remote logins, use ssh instead if you can.
[16:14] <Moxxie> Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[16:14] <Moxxie> https://prupert.wordpress.com/2010/06/25/how-to-configure-wireless-wifi-networking-in-ubuntu-via-the-command-line-cli/
[16:14] <cdorsal_> Moxxie: 16.04
[16:14] <Moxxie> You may also try this tutorial. I find user tutorials more in-depth than standard office ones.
[16:14] <Moxxie> Ah, latest
[16:15] <cdorsal_> Moxxie: I'm not married to 16.04, if you think there's a better solution
[16:15] <nacc> cdorsal_: while not exactly what you are doing, you amy want to read step 4 of e.g., https://rbnrpi.wordpress.com/project-list/wifi-to-ethernet-adapter-for-an-ethernet-ready-tv/
[16:15] <Moxxie> Hahaha!
[16:15] <Moxxie> Im going to run the stimulation now, cd
[16:16] <Moxxie> I suggest using virtual stimulation for this
[16:16] <cdorsal_> Moxxie: You rock
[16:16] <Moxxie> Run either Oracle or VMware
[16:16] <nacc> cdorsal_: there are lots of guides out there about how to bridge networks
[16:16] <Moxxie> Booting, brb
[16:16] <cdorsal_> nacc: thanks!
[16:16] <nacc> cdorsal_: don't run oracle or vmware to do this, that's terrible advice
[16:16] <nacc> and absolutely unnecessary
[16:16] <cdorsal_> nacc: when I try to bridge eth0 to wlan0 I get a bridging error
[16:16] <tatixz> virtual stimulation *giggles*
[16:17] <cdorsal_> nacc: so, I run some iptables script I made, but it still doesn't work
[16:17] <gtxbb> cdorsal_, ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[16:17] <gtxbb> cdorsal_, you need to set ip_forward on the interfacles, and a SNAT/MASQUERADE and DNAT rule
[16:17] <nacc> cdorsal_: well, w/o the content of your script, we have no way to konw if you did it right :)
[16:17] <terrible> ducasse: ok but i not trying to access another machine im trying is to know if someone acces my machine
[16:17] <gtxbb> cdorsal_, if you're using iptables, then you need to allow traffic on the FORWARD chain
[16:17] <catbeard> is it safe to umount /boot while ubuntu is running?
[16:18] <gtxbb> cdorsal_, actually DNAT is not needed i think if you're not providing any services
[16:18] <nacc> cdorsal_: those steps (that gtxbb is referring to) are in that link i sent you
[16:18] <nacc> or at least examples of them
[16:18] <cdorsal_> gtxbb and nacc: thanks
[16:18] <OerHeks> catbeard, you can't. use a live iso for editting partitions
[16:19] <nacc> cdorsal_: they are doing the reverse direciotn (afaict), but it's the same principle(s)
[16:19] <nacc> catbeard: why do you want to?
[16:19] <ReGoR> x x xx hello xxxxx
[16:19] <ReGoR> x .xxxxx hello xxxxx. say x xx.xxx hello xxx.xx say x .xxxxx hello xxxxx.
[16:19] <ReGoR> x x xx hello xxxxx
[16:20] <cdorsal_> nacc: so, does this guide assume ethX and wlanX are on different subnets?
[16:20] <catbeard> i need to resize it
[16:20] <catbeard> though it's not lvm
[16:20] <ducasse> terrible: look at auth.log, it records all logins (both local and from remote)
[16:20] <catbeard> the root problem is software updater
[16:20] <catbeard> saying there's not enough room on the /boot partition to update ubuntu
[16:21] <nacc> cdorsal_: yes, afaict -- well different networks, which is all that really should matter
[16:21] <cdorsal_> nacc: good point
[16:21] <terrible> ducasse: alright and how i know any connection using the telnet service in the log file?
[16:21] <nacc> catbeard: have you run `apt autoremove` ?
[16:21] <nacc> catbeard: as in, do you hav old kernels sticking around
[16:21] <catbeard> so i go to /boot and there's 4.4.0-39 and 4.4.0-40, i'm running 4.4.0-39 but there's already stuff in /boot/grub/grub.cfg for 4.4.0-40
[16:22] <catbeard> no that's how i've done the last few updates is by removing kernels
[16:22] <Amivit> How can I do "/bin/bash -c /home/ubuntu/update-script.sh" in a separate process, because my webserver invoking this script gets shutdown by it, killing off the running script.
[16:22] <catbeard> haven't run autremove
[16:22] <ducasse> terrible: there will be a line that says user so-and-so logged on over telnet. but unless you have enabled telnetd you don't have it.
[16:23] <nacc> catbeard: how large is your /boot partition?
[16:24] <terrible> ducasse: ok thank dude for the help
[16:24] <terrible> ducasse: you help me a lot
[16:24] <ducasse> terrible: np.
[16:25] <noirchrome> one quick question about rfkill woes. If im connected by cable to router, would that make my wifi hard blocked ?
[16:26] <nacc> noirchrome: depends on your system? seems odd, but i guess someone could have implemented that
[16:26] <nacc> noirchrome: unlikely that the rf switch knows about router vs. any other kind of wired connectivity, though
[16:26] <noirchrome> Dont know why tho, i had to unblock wifi when i dabbled with arch, and i managed to somehow, cant remember what i did
[16:27] <noirchrome> I want to be connected by cable, and use wifi to communicate w my phone ( osc mainly )
[16:31] <SaintMoriarty> How can I use a ubuntu cd to boot from USB on a old computer?
[16:31] <Southern_Gentlem> noname64
[16:33] <gtxbb> SaintMoriarty, does the old computer support booting from usb?
[16:33] <SchrodingersScat> SaintMoriarty: normally I hear of people using a distro called 'plop' which has the support to boot to cd then choose to actually boot a USB with a live image on it.
[16:33] <gtxbb> SaintMoriarty, some old computers support booting from "usb-cdrom" but not "usb-flash"
[16:34] <gtxbb> SaintMoriarty, I have a spare "external" usb-cdrom drive that i use for old systems that don't support usb-flash boot
[16:34] <gtxbb> SaintMoriarty, (but would support usb-cdrom boot)
[16:34] <debkad> i seen that from distro like puppy, when installed the cd detect the saved image on the usb and boot through it
[16:35] <nicomachus> I need to record a live stream in a couple hours. Every time I've done it with a screen recorder program, it just records audio from my PC mic instead of just plugging into the audio feed or something. Any better solutions to have crisper/clearer audio while recording the live stream?
[16:35] <SchrodingersScat> nicomachus: does that imply you're using gtkrecordmydesktop?
[16:35] <SchrodingersScat> nicomachus: what stream?
[16:35] <ducasse> nicomachus: can't vlc do that?
[16:35] <SaintMoriarty> gtxbb, no
[16:36] <nicomachus> SchrodingersScat: I've used SimpleScreenRecorder before
[16:36] <nicomachus> ducasse: hmm... not sure. I'll check into that.
[16:36] <SaintMoriarty> SchrodingersScat, I am at the colocation center and don't have a burner to burn a new image
[16:36] <SaintMoriarty> I have a ubuntu disk and usb i need booted
[16:37] <SchrodingersScat> nicomachus: not sure if it's in the scope of this channel, but there's also #youtube-dl which is sort of centered around stream capture using the tool, and I also enjoy it as a hobby.
[16:37] <SchrodingersScat> SaintMoriarty: can you format a swap space, load the cd image there, then grub boot off that?
[16:38] <SaintMoriarty> no sure, can I do what plop does from the ubuntu cd
[16:39] <nicomachus> SchrodingersScat: youtube-dl does livestreams?
[16:40] <vegombrei> so i just installed ubuntu, im a noob, cant get movies to play like web rib and mkv, do i have to install some stuff??
[16:40] <ducasse> nicomachus: https://www.techwalla.com/articles/how-to-record-a-network-stream-with-vlc-media-player
[16:40] <SchrodingersScat> nicomachus: it does almost everything, but yes, sometimes.  try youtube-dl --list-extractors and you'll see a bunch.
[16:41] <vegombrei> so i just installed ubuntu, im a noob, cant get movies to play like web rib and mkv, do i have to install some stuff?? is there anything like codecs and stuff i need to install ?
[16:41] <nicomachus> Ok. Going to test it on a couple random live streams with VLC and youtube-dl so that once the one I need starts, I know what will work.
[16:41] <nacc> !patience | vegombrei
[16:42] <nacc> !video | vegombrei
[16:42] <vegombrei> nacc: thanks
[16:42] <nacc> vegombrei: np
[16:43] <jack_esqueleton> im noob that I can do with ubuntu
[16:44] <cdorsal> Moxxie: Were you able to simulate it?
[16:45] <elpasmo> Hi all, I want to install the latest nvidia drivers but I'm a bit scared of not doing it properly. I saw there is already a ubuntu package uploaded: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-367/367.44-0ubuntu3 so I suppose I can use apt to install it, but I tried to update it and I'm not able to see it. I'm using 16.10 btw
[16:45] <ducasse> +1 | elpasmo
[16:45] <ducasse> !+1 | elpasmo
[16:46] <elpasmo> ducasse: ? :)
[16:46] <ducasse> elpasmo: try #ubuntu+1 for 16.10 support
[16:46] <elpasmo> ducasse: thanks you
[16:47] <nacc> ducasse: i think you wanted !ubuntu+1
[16:47] <ducasse> nacc: i just found it, thanks :)
[16:47] <jack_esqueleton> how to use irc ? please help me
[16:48] <noirchrome> hm, i get bluetooth on, but cant unblock wifi, its inter made ?
[16:48] <vegombrei> nacc: you think this will solve all my issues? shall i medibuntu?
[16:48] <elpasmo> ducasse: sorry, in fact I'm using 16.04
[16:48] <nacc> elpasmo: nvidia-367 is only available on 16.04-proposed right now
[16:48] <nicomachus> jack_esqueleton: /join #freenode
[16:49] <nacc> vegombrei: i don't know what all your issues are
[16:49] <vegombrei> nacc: LOLL
[16:49] <elpasmo> nacc: Thank you, does it mean there is no way I can access the proposed packages? and also: how can I know that a package is only proposed? at the web I can't find anything
[16:49] <vegombrei> nacc: ill mail you a list LOL
[16:50] <nacc> elpasmo: you can enable -proposed, but it's generally for testing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed
[16:50] <jack_esqueleton> nicomachus: thank you
[16:50] <elpasmo> nacc thank you a lot
[16:51] <nacc> elpasmo: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-367
[16:51] <jack_esqueleton> it my firts time that use irc thank
[16:51] <nacc> you were looking at the specific yakkety upload/publish of the package, i went up a link from that and you can see near the middle of the page the publication information
[16:51] <nacc> elpasmo: --^
[16:51] <k1l_> elpasmo: dont enable proposed as user.
[16:51] <nicomachus> jack_esqueleton: no problem. Just join that freenode channel and they can tell you whatever you need to know. This channel is for Ubuntu support only.
[16:52] <nacc> elpasmo: k1l_ is right, though, unless you've been directed to in a bug to test a fix, it's not worth trying to use generally
[16:52] <nacc> elpasmo: just wait for hte package to hit the release pocket like normal
[16:52] <k1l_> proposed is the testbed for the automated testings. packages there will come to the other repos if they are not causing issues in those tests.
[16:53] <elpasmo> k1l_ nacc thank you both... so... being an average user, is there a danger for my X if I try to install the latest nvidia drivers from their web?
[16:53] <vegombrei> nacc: i installed all the stuff from that site, can play vieos now thanks, however when i play webrip files i only get sound no video
[16:53] <nacc> elpasmo: if you don't know what you're doing exactly, don't enable proposed
[16:53] <k1l_> elpasmo: why do you want/need the lastest one?
[16:53] <nacc> elpasmo: but you mean from the nvidia website?
[16:54] <tfc> Hi all. How to edit ubuntu interface
[16:54] <elpasmo> nacc: http://www.nvidia.com/content/DriverDownload-March2009/confirmation.php?url=/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/367.44/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-367.44.run&lang=us&type=GeForce
[16:54] <ppf> elpasmo: nvidia driver updates are dangerous
[16:54] <nacc> elpasmo: just wait for it to come via the archives
[16:54] <nacc> elpasmo: or answer k1l_'s question as to why you think you need the update
[16:54] <elpasmo> k1l_:  dawn of war II just been released and it needs the latest drivers
[16:54] <nacc> lol
[16:54] <k1l_> elpasmo: the latest means what version exactly?
[16:55] <elpasmo> k1l_: NVIDIA cards require driver version 367.35
[16:55] <nacc> elpasmo: to play that game? because obviously that's not true generally
[16:56] <Amivit> How can I do "/bin/bash -c /home/ubuntu/update-script.sh" in a separate process, because the process (my webserver) invoking this script gets shutdown by it, killing itself off
[16:56] <vegombrei> ?
[16:56] <nacc> Amivit: why is your webserver running a shell script?
[16:56] <Amivit> To update itself from git
[16:56] <nacc> Amivit: uh ... ok? that seems dangerous in principle, but sure
[16:56] <nacc> Amivit: you would need to background it probabay (& suffix)
[16:57] <Amivit> Do I & on every line or how does that work
[16:57] <elpasmo> nacc yes I know, but with the current drivers I crash. Btw, looking in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-367 I see that por Yakkety Yak the package is released... It's a bit confusing :P
[16:57] <Amivit> can I run the ENTIRE script in the background
[16:57] <nacc> Amivit: you should read about it on `man bash`
[16:57] <nacc> Amivit: yes, you can ... i don't know the details of what you are doing well enough to know what to suggest
[16:58] <nacc> elpasmo: yes, the pacakge in 16.10 is already released. What is confusing about that?
[16:58] <k1l_> elpasmo: 16.10 is in development. so there is another rule to release new packages than for 16.04
[16:58] <nacc> elpasmo: 16.04 is already out and is a LTS, so there are stricter rules in place to prevent regressions
[16:58] <Amivit> Well the script is just service supervisor stop, git pull, service supervisor start @nacc
[16:58] <elpasmo> oohhh yaketty yak is 16.10, I thought it was 16.04, sorry for that, my mistake
[16:58] <nacc> Amivit: yes, you could run the whole script in the background presumably
[16:58] <elpasmo> thanks a lot for all the help :)
[16:59] <Amivit> I will try, thanks
[16:59] <nacc> Amivit: but i'm confused, if your webserver gets stopped by the script, then i dont' see how you expect this to work
[16:59] <nacc> Amivit: as even in the background, your webserver would get stopped?
[16:59] <Amivit> Not the entire server but Kestrel, the process hosting port 80
[17:00] <Amivit> Like apache
[17:00] <k1l_> elpasmo: while i think its only short time untill the nvidia driver comes to 16.04 you can use the drivers ppa https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=xenial
[17:00] <nacc> Amivit: it might work to just & then, i'm not sure
[17:01] <Amivit> I shall try thanks! :) It's because the webserver listens for an api rest post, from my CI which automatically calls it when my build suceeds on a master branch push
[17:01] <elpasmo> k1l_: gr8 I will try that, thanks a lot!
[17:01] <Amivit> So basically for continous delivery
[17:02] <catbeard> nacc: 237M
[17:02] <catbeard> 72M available
[17:02] <catbeard> i need to free 46.1M for software updater to work
[17:02] <catbeard> autoremove is still in progress
[17:04] <nacc> catbeard: ok, i'm guessing you just had accumulated older kernels for some time
[17:04] <catbeard> nope
[17:04] <catbeard> not in /boot, but as far as dpkg goes, then yeah it's going through a lot of them
[17:05] <nacc> catbeard: it's not advised to delete files in /boot manually, if they're provided by packages
[17:05] <nacc> as that might break the packages removal
[17:05] <catbeard> could always do --force though?
[17:05] <nacc> catbeard: yes, but you shouldn't *need* to -- just use the package manager to begin with :)
[17:05] <nacc> catbeard: can you do a `ls -ahl /boot | pastebinit` ?
[17:05] <catbeard> if the package manager would work to begin with :)
[17:05] <catbeard> sec
[17:06] <nacc> catbeard: it should work fine for removals
[17:06] <nacc> catbeard: just not installations (if /boot is fullish)
[17:06] <catbeard> don't have pastebinit
[17:06] <nacc> or pastebin the output, either way
[17:07] <de-facto> ls -ahl /boot | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:07] <nacc> de-facto: thanks
[17:07] <catbeard> nacc: http://kopy.io/YtdrD
[17:07] <catbeard> lol
[17:07] <nacc> catbeard: so as i said, you have several old kernels in /boot
[17:07] <nacc> well, the initrds of them
[17:07] <nacc> which is where the size comes from in kernel images
[17:08] <catbeard> there wasn't when i started
[17:08] <nacc> um
[17:08] <catbeard> but now that the autoremove is in progress
[17:08] <nacc> catbeard: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[17:08] <catbeard> 16.04
[17:08] <kspencer> when adding quota, what difference does the kernel module (that i see in /lib/modules/.../fs/) have against 'apt-get install quota quotatool'
[17:08] <nacc> catbeard: do you happen to have wily repositories still enabled?
[17:08] <nacc> catbeard: becuase 4.2.x is the wily kernel
[17:09] <fission6> i am getting the following issue It must be within 300 secs/ of server time.
[17:09] <fission6> i need to update my server time, how do i do this
[17:09] <catbeard> this laptop has been through a few upgrades
[17:09] <nacc> kspencer: presumably the kernel module actuall implements fs quotas, while the apt-get packages provide userspace interfaces
[17:09] <catbeard> how would i tell?
[17:10] <nacc> catbeard: can you pastebin the output of `apt update` ?
[17:10] <nacc> catbeard: or `apt-cache policy linux-image-generic`
[17:10] <Southern_Gentlem> fission6,  set both to use the same time source
[17:10] <voidhost> Hello
[17:10] <fission6> Southern_Gentlem: how do i update my time
[17:10] <kspencer> nacc: so if I just want to have jails with userspace quotas, not worrying about the kernel module is fine
[17:11] <nacc> kspencer: do you mean disk space quotas?
[17:11] <kspencer> nacc: basically yes, each jail user would get an alloted amount of space
[17:12] <fission6> sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[17:12] <fission6> 30 Sep 17:07:01 ntpdate[11939]: no server suitable for synchronization found
[17:12] <fission6> why is this happening
[17:12] <kspencer> technically its more complicated than that, but thats on my side of things
[17:13] <nacc> kspencer: i think you actually want the quota package
[17:13] <nacc> kspencer: it might get implemented in the fs by the kernel module, but you still need some means to set teh quota, no?
[17:14] <kspencer> nacc: looking, that would 'quotatool' if i'm not mistaken
[17:15] <nacc> kspencer: could be, quotatool appears to just be a scriptable variant
[17:16] <kspencer> well i see on a debian page that quotatool has the ability or so to set them, source: https://debian-administration.org/article/47/Limiting_your_users_use_of_disk_space_with_quotas
[17:17] <samba35> sorry .....so sorry but its desperate seduction
[17:17] <kspencer> nacc: shown example: quotatool -u skx -bq 200M -l '250 Mb' /home
[17:17] <samba35> i am not able to acess screen of my phone ,is there any way to boot/reboot phone into safe  more from computer or combination of keys on phone ?
[17:17] <nacc> kspencer: yeah, i think quota can do something similar, fwiw
[17:17] <nacc> kspencer: but either would work, afaict
[17:18] <ducasse> samba35: try ##android or whatever
[17:18] <nacc> kspencer: the important bit is to remount the fs with quotas turned on, i asume (which will load the appropriate kernel driver automatically)
[17:18] <samba35> yes i am there too .:)
[17:19] <nacc> kspencer: they recommend on that page installing both
[17:20] <CaptainBlackton> I asked this a bunch of times in the Linux Mint help channel, but no one seems to reply there; maybe they don't have people monitoring it. I'll try asking here in Ubuntu, since my question probably applies to both.
[17:20] <Anonymes> Hi
[17:20] <CaptainBlackton> So I was wondering if there is a way to turn off the annoying feature that plays music every time you move the mouse over a music file?
[17:24] <event> Is there a Ubuntu specific help channel?
[17:24] <noodlesnod> voice?
[17:24] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu | event: you're in it.
[17:24] <event> Roger
[17:25] <event> Anyone know how to debug why my Ubuntu box is giving unpredictable samba performance?
[17:25] <event> I get bursts up to 100 MB/s
[17:25] <SchrodingersScat> !mint | CaptainBlackton, it's really not.  I don't use Ubuntu so I can't confirm if this is a thing that it does.  Are you using Nautilus? it's likely more a Mint/Nautilus question.
[17:25] <event> but it varies massively
[17:25] <noodlesnod> !bash
[17:25] <event> Its not the network as I have iperf'd it.
[17:25] <rumflump> are there significant differences between xubuntu and lubuntu aside from the obvious DE difference?
[17:26] <k1l_> CaptainBlackton: please ask the mint guys on their irc channels or forums about that issue. that is not an issue on ubuntu.
[17:26] <event> rumflump, nope
[17:26] <k1l_> rumflump: yes. lubuntu uses zram as default and the installer supports old cpus
[17:27] <event> k1l_, really?
[17:27] <event> Holy crap
[17:27] <noodlesnod> !zram
[17:27] <rumflump> k1l_: ah, interesting. zram sounds like a clever trick
[17:28] <event> zram should not be used anymore...
[17:28] <event> unless you are on a memory limited platform
[17:28] <k1l_> event: that is the focus of lubuntu: old and slow hardware
[17:28] <nckpz> makes sense, with lxde being targeted more toward devices w/ limited resources
[17:28] <rumflump> event: such as a vm that you're only willing to give 512 mb or so of ram to?
[17:28] <k1l_> event: so that makes a lot of sense
[17:28] <event> rumflump, eh, I guess
[17:28] <event> But you are trading CPU for it
[17:29] <event> rumflump, check if you use swap much
[17:29] <noodlesnod> interesting
[17:29] <event> if you do use swap a lot
[17:29] <event> then sure
[17:29] <event> otherwise nah
[17:31] <t3kg33k> Greetings
[17:32] <zvolta> Hi
[17:32] <t3kg33k> I'm having an issue with a sed command. I am trying to substitute localhost in the /etc/file with another hostname but it's replacing the ip6-localhost also and I don't want that.
[17:33] <t3kg33k> Here is the command I am trying: sudo sed -i.bak 's/\<localhost\>/matevm1 localhost/g' /etc/hosts
[17:33] <event> you'd need to include only localhost as a string
[17:34] <event> not somecraphere-localhost
[17:34] <nacc> well that won't work either, as 'localhost' is in ip6-localhost
[17:34] <event> I'd probably do it with regex!
[17:34] <t3kg33k> It replaces the localhost just fine it also replaces as ip6-matevm1
[17:35] <ouroumov_> t3kg33k, tripple sed: ip6-localhost -> uniquestring, localhost->newhost, uniquestring-> ip6-localhost
[17:35] <t3kg33k> I want it to replace localhost and localhost only
[17:36] <t3kg33k> hey, ouroumov_. I recognize you from the Ubuntu Mate forums. You've helped me in the past. You're a rock star!
[17:36] <t3kg33k> ouroumov_: I'll try that
[17:37] <nacc> t3kg33k: fwiw, the normal in-sed way is to use lookahead in your regex
[17:38] <nacc> well, the closest equivalent of lookahead in sed is probably the ! operator
[17:38] <ducasse> t3kg33k: '\slocalhost\s' includes whitespace before and after
[17:38] <nacc> ducasse: yeah, that should work generally too
[17:39] <Amivit> nacc, the script is called with & for background, but it still doesn't work and I think it's because it's a subprocess, so when the parent process dies it goes down with it
[17:39] <Amivit> Not sure though
[17:39] <Amivit> I just need this bash script to get launched completely externally like I can from ssh, where it works fine
[17:39] <nacc> Amivit: you probably need to do & and disown
[17:39] <whoami_> lol
[17:40] <ducasse> Amivit: 'nohup
[17:40] <ducasse> Amivit: 'nohup'
[17:40] <nacc> or what ducasse said :)
[17:40] <whoami_> backbox better then kali
[17:40] <whoami_> backbox better then kali 2000 times...
[17:40] <Amivit> thanks will keep trying
[17:40] <nacc> whoami_: both are offtopic for this channel
[17:40] <whoami_> ok
[17:41] <whoami_> ok huys
[17:41] <whoami_> ok guys
[17:41] <whoami_> someone there?
[17:41] <whoami_> hi Afrix
[17:41] <nacc> !ask | whoami
[17:41] <k1l_> whoami_: stop that trolling. this channel is only for ubuntu support
[17:42] <whoami_> ok im new user i dont troll anybody...
[17:42] <catbeard> nacc: http://kopy.io/xv2kE
[17:44] <whoami_> I need support now. How should i install .deb package on ubuntu?
[17:44] <nacc> catbeard: `apt-cache policy linux-image-<4.2.0-...>-generic` based upon what 4.2.x kernels are in /boot
[17:44] <t3kg33k> ducasse: it would look like this? sudo sed -i 's/\slocalhost\s/matevm1 localhost/g' /etc/hosts
[17:45] <ducasse> t3kg33k: remove the last \s, actually, might be a newline there
[17:45] <Csabi33669> smiche: whoami_first of all enter into package directory in terminal, chown a+x package name, after that ./packagename
[17:46] <nacc> Csabi33669: they are gone
[17:46] <nacc> and they were a troll, afaict
[17:46] <nacc> Csabi33669: also, does that actually work for a .deb? .deb's aren't executabls
[17:46] <t3kg33k> ducasse: it work but also removed the white space after 127.0.0.1
[17:47] <tomreyn> a nickname of "whoami", asking how to install a .deb. probably a troll, yes.
[17:47] <t3kg33k> so it worked, sort of
[17:47] <t3kg33k> I didn't want the white spaced removed also
[17:48] <ducasse> t3kg33k: yes, it will replace that as well. you could just add one leading whitespace to the text you replace with.
[17:48] <catbeard> nacc: http://kopy.io/y0Qjf
[17:48] <nacc> t3kg33k: fwiw, you might want to consider using something other than sed for this
[17:48] <Csabi33669> you have true, it's wont work :)
[17:48] <nacc> t3kg33k: as other tools (e..g perl regex) have better support for lookahead, etc
[17:49] <nacc> catbeard: ok, so i'm guessing at some point in the past you manually installed linux-image-4.2.0-27-generic, and it's now stuck (autoremove can't remove packages you told to install manaully or keep installed)
[17:49] <t3kg33k> nacc: wish I knew those languages. I'm still a bash noobie
[17:49] <nacc> catbeard: so `apt purge linux-image-4.2*`
[17:51] <nacc> t3kg33k: another way to do it, similar to what ouroumov said, would be to sed any superstring of localhost to something that doesn't contain localhost, but a marker where to put localhost back in, and then sed localhost, then sed the marker back to localhost
[17:53] <catbeard> nacc: well i'm waiting on autoremove to finish still
[17:53] <catbeard> it's on 4.4.0-33
[17:56] <nacc> catbeard: ok
[17:56] <t3kg33k> ok. I will play around
[18:02] <patc> hi guys
[18:02] <patc> any help?:(
[18:02] <nacc> !ask | patc
[18:04] <AbstractArtist> !patience
[18:07] <john-key> jo
[18:07] <john-key> hi
[18:07] <patc> sorry,fine! I have windows 10 installed on my ssd, I have another sata hd with two partition that I only use for storage. I`ve formatted one the two partition on the HD and I installed xubuntu on it making one partition for swap, one for / and one for /home. When I restarted the system with no USB drive I got the error reboot and select proper boot
[18:07] <patc>  media etc. I ve tryed to change boot priorities with no results. I can only boot from the usb drive. I m thinking about formatting the xubuntu partition, can i fix the issue without doing it? if not, what should i do to install xubuntu successfully?
[18:08] <gebruiker> out of all DE i tested today Unity has the best font rendering even when browsing with firefox
[18:08] <gebruiker> i just wish it would more responsive / fast
[18:09] <gebruiker> ps why is it so hard to make unity available on debian?
[18:10] <patc> sorry,fine! I have windows 10 installed on my ssd, I have another sata hd with two partition that I only use for storage. I`ve formatted one the two partition on the HD and I installed xubuntu on it making one partition for swap, one for / and one for /home. When I restarted the system with no USB drive I got the error reboot and select proper boot
[18:10] <patc>  media etc. I ve tryed to change boot priorities with no results. I can only boot from the usb drive. I m thinking about formatting the xubuntu partition, can i fix the issue without doing it? if not, what should i do to install xubuntu successfully?
[18:10] <nacc> patc: did you forget to read !patience just now??
[18:10] <BluesKaj_>  I gave up on firefox, getting bloated and using a lot of cpu and memory fighting the with adblock, chrome has a much smaller footprint and disses the ads nicely
[18:10] <patc> sry
[18:11] <nacc> gebruiker: that last question is probably offtopic :)
[18:11] <Afrix> apparently the latest version of firefox has been debloated
[18:11] <BluesKaj_> Afrix, which version ?
[18:12] <Afrix> http://www.techrepublic.com/article/firefox-gains-serious-speed-and-reliability-and-loses-some-bloat/
[18:14] <nicomachus> SchrodingersScat: getting this from VLC: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23256625/
[18:14] <VRKANSAGARA> any body know how to read logger from /var/log
[18:15] <patc> sorry,fine! I have windows 10 installed on my ssd, I have another sata hd with two partition that I only use for storage. I`ve formatted one the two partition on the HD and I installed xubuntu on it making one partition for swap, one for / and one for /home. When I restarted the system with no USB drive I got the error reboot and select proper boot
[18:15] <patc>  media etc. I ve tryed to change boot priorities with no results. I can only boot from the usb drive. I m thinking about formatting the xubuntu partition, can i fix the issue without doing it? if not, what should i do to install xubuntu successfully?
[18:16] <SchrodingersScat> nicomachus: I don't normally use vlc
[18:16] <eelstrebor> looks like some strange things happening with google chrome
[18:20] <nicomachus> SchrodingersScat: ok. trying youtube-dl. I have a list of the formats, but every instruction I can find says to use that to get the .m3u and then stream that through VLC
[18:21] <Anonymes> Hi
[18:23] <thecoolguy> hello world
[18:23] <nacc> patc: so you're not able to boot to windows either?
[18:24] <nicomachus> SchrodingersScat: ok, got it to work just by doing "youtube-dl <link>". Surprisingly simple.
[18:25] <Southern_Gentlem> nac how do i update
[18:30] <nacc> Southern_Gentlem: update what?
[18:32] <PiojoPendrejo> good afternoon
[18:32] <PiojoPendrejo> somebody could help my with kazam?
[18:34] <singam> guys check out my android application in google play ... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fractalbro.singam.dispofone
[18:34] <nacc> singam: that's offtopic and inappropriate for this channel
[18:34] <singam> what if somone needs help over voice?
[18:35] <singam> and not thru chat?
[18:35] <nacc> singam: this is a the *ubuntu* support channel
[18:35] <singam> yes what if smone wants support thru voice?
[18:35] <k1l_> singam: that is spam and its forbidden.
[18:35] <singam> apple was forbidden in heaven
[18:36] <nacc> singam: i'm not sure what you're trying to claim, but please just respect the rules of the channel
[18:36] <CaptainBlackton> As I mentioned in my post here, I had already asked about this a bunch of times in the Linux Mint help channel and no one responded, which is why I posted here.
[18:36] <CaptainBlackton> I thought I recalled that Ubuntu had this feature from when I used to use plain Ubuntu
[18:36] <k1l_> CaptainBlackton: then try there forums or whatever they offer for support
[18:36] <k1l_> !mint | CaptainBlackton
[18:38] <DBNickel> I'm having an odd issue, I was wondering anyone could see what I'm doing wrong
[18:38] <nacc> !ask | DBNickel
[18:39] <archheretic> anyone have any experience with apt-fast?
[18:39] <DBNickel> I am trying to install nonfree software on an new OS install. The Ubuntu One dialog won't log in - but I can from other locations
[18:39] <nacc> archheretic: what is it?
[18:40] <DBNickel> Oracle DB Modeler
[18:40] <SchrodingersScat> nicomachus: youtube-dl is basically magic :D
[18:41] <nacc> DBNickel: not sure, sorry -- you might want to see if there is a contact link on the ubuntu one page?
[18:42] <DBNickel> ok. thanks
[18:43] <nicomachus> SchrodingersScat: apparently so.
[18:47] <archheretic> nacc: a shell script wrapper that is supposed to speed up downloading by downloading from multiple sources in parallell
[18:48] <archheretic> when installing and upgrading packages
[18:49] <archheretic> but i dont know how well it worls
[18:49] <archheretic> works
[18:49] <archheretic> if it really works, and if it can cause packages to become corrupt
[18:50] <Guest94415> yo
[18:50] <SCHAPiE> oi
[18:51] <SCHAPiE> sup Guest94415
[18:51] <k1l_> archheretic: i dont have experience with apt-fast since there are more than enough fast mirrors out there
[19:04] <lama> helo
[19:04] <catbeard> nacc: ok so autoremove is done now what
[19:04] <lama> i have mint
[19:04] <catbeard> still only 72M available
[19:04] <k1l_> !mint | lama
[19:04] <lama> and watned to ask how do add phonetic russian keyboard?
[19:04] <lama> ok thank you
[19:04] <lama> oh
[19:04] <lama> its not freenode
[19:04] <lama> can't you help me here? i'm sure its a easy
[19:05] <k1l_> lama: their channels are set to autoconnect on mints irc clients. so use them. we cant help you here
[19:05] <lama> ok :(
[19:05] <Lehnux> Hello
[19:06] <blinkblink> Hi. I am customizing my distro, I want to change the color of the 'sudo -i' root in terminal. I have followed what is provided online but it is still colorless
[19:07] <nacc> catbeard: do the purge i recommended before
[19:08] <Lehnux> -color=auto ?
[19:09] <catbeard> nacc: i get zsh: no matches found: linux-image-4.2*
[19:09] <nacc> catbeard: uh, sorry, put it in quotes
[19:10] <nacc> catbeard: e.g., `apt purge 'linux-image-4.2*'`
[19:11] <catbeard> in progress
[19:12] <catbeard> ok that's done
[19:12] <nacc> catbeard: can you pastebin the `ls -ahl /boot` output again?
[19:13] <catbeard> nacc: zsh: no matches found: linux-image-4.2*
[19:13] <catbeard> bah
[19:14] <catbeard> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23256845/
[19:14] <systemd0wn> Question, Using dual monitors on 16.04 and everytime the screen locks I come back to find my app windows all on the same monitor, or on different workspaces... Any thoughts on why this happens?
[19:14] <catbeard> deleting the 4.2.0 one would only get me 15M back
[19:14] <catbeard> i need 31M
[19:15] <nacc> catbeard: `apt-cache policy linux-image-4.2.0-25-generic` ?
[19:15] <catbeard> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23256849/
[19:15] <k1l_> catbeard: is something in "lost+found"?
[19:15] <catbeard> no
[19:16] <nacc> catbeard: well, it apperas you can delete that 4.2.0 initrd then
[19:16] <k1l_> catbeard: you could remove those 4.2 kenerl files manually from /boot. just make sure you delte all 4.2 kernel packages afterwards
[19:16] <nacc> catbeard: what is saying you need that much space?
[19:16] <catbeard> software updater
[19:16] <catbeard> updating ubuntu base
[19:16] <nacc> catbeard: can you pastebin `apt upgrade`'s output?
[19:17] <nacc> catbeard: also, is there a reason you chose to install with such a small /boot? :)
[19:18] <catbeard> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23256858/
[19:18] <catbeard> it was like that on install
[19:18] <nacc> seems like you should have plenty of space on /boot
[19:18] <catbeard> ikr
[19:18] <lama> hm
[19:18] <lama> could you tell me how do i add phonetic russian layout?
[19:19] <nacc> catbeard: ah you can also remove/purge linux-image-generic-lts-vivid linux-signed-image-generic-lts-vivid
[19:19] <lama> do i have to install something like ibus?
[19:19] <nacc> catbeard: those are nonsensical for 16.04
[19:19] <Bashing-om> nacc: There is still : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1357093
[19:19] <lama> i'm using xcfe
[19:19] <k1l_> lama: mint is not supported here. ask in the mint channels as already been told. or ask in #linux
[19:19] <nacc> Bashing-om: but /boot isn't full in this case
[19:19] <nacc> >100M free
[19:20] <nacc> catbeard: `apt` isn't seeming like it's complaining, ccan you just use `apt upgrade` ?
[19:20] <plm> Hi all
[19:21] <plm> Are there a package (extra source.list) to get firefox 49.0.1 on the Ubuntu 16.04.1?
[19:22] <catbeard> running
[19:22] <k1l_> plm: its already included
[19:22] <k1l_> !info firefox | plm
[19:23] <nacc> and the only fix in 49.0.1 (per the changelog) is a windows only fix
[19:23] <nacc> https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/49.0.1/releasenotes/
[19:23] <nacc> plm: regardless, just use what's in the archive
[19:23] <wadadli> plm: don't use firefox
[19:23] <nicomachus> wadadli: not an acceptable answer.
[19:25] <plm> ubottu: what is the package name toinstall ir on apt-get install?
[19:25] <wadadli> was I just kicked/
[19:25] <EriC^^> !info firefox
[19:25] <EriC^^> plm: just firefox, it's default in the ubuntu install
[19:26] <EriC^^> plm: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox
[19:26] <plm> EriC^^: here default is the 49.0
[19:26] <k1l_> wadadli: yes you were. stick to the channel guidelines and code of conduct from the ubuntu community or stay out of the channel.
[19:26] <EriC^^> plm: yeah
[19:26] <EriC^^> you want 49.0.1?
[19:26] <wadadli> uh, I know how assholish most of you are so I'll won't even question this.
[19:27] <c-yco> hi
[19:27] <EriC^^> fix for what
[19:27] <nacc> plm: as i just said, firefox 49.0.1 has no changes relevant to linux
[19:27] <k1l_> plm: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/49.0.1/releasenotes/    that is the only difference. so no need fo th .1 version
[19:27] <c-yco> i have a system only booting to initramfs after i did upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04
[19:27] <plm> k1l_: I tries sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox and still 49.0
[19:27] <plm> *tried
[19:28] <k1l_> plm: please see my last answer. i overlooked that you want the .1 version first, which is not relevant for linux machines
[19:29] <c-yco> any ideas
[19:29] <plm> k1l_: are there a bug in 49.0 where not happen in 49.0.1: google sites commnets not works on 49.0 and works in 49.0.1
[19:29] <k1l_> plm: not on linux
[19:29] <plm> k1l_: That tests I did on the linux
[19:30] <catbeard> nacc: ok apt upgrade is done
[19:30] <catbeard> no errors
[19:30] <c-yco> any ideas? dmesg give this output EXT4-fs (sdd1): couldn't mount as ext3 due to feature incompatibilities
[19:30] <nacc> catbeard: cool :)
[19:30] <c-yco> disk is ext4
[19:30] <catbeard> so reboot should go smooth?
[19:30] <nacc> catbeard: i'd expect so?
[19:31] <k1l_> plm: please look at the facts. 49.0.1 did only one change to websense which is not relevant on linux
[19:31] <catbeard> ok do you happen to know how to remove cryptswap
[19:31] <catbeard> or startup encryption
[19:32] <ioria> c-yco, check in /etc/fstab if it's marked as ext3
[19:32] <k1l_> c-yco: make sure the /etc/fstab is correct.
[19:32] <c-yco> already did its ext4
[19:32] <plm> k1l_: yes, I know that. I see that changelog before you past me. But the fact is that bug happen on 49.0 and not happen in 49.0.1
[19:32] <k1l_> plm: then file a bug on ubuntu describing and proving the facts
[19:32] <fjeek> hey, why does it say like this even though I shut down windows correctly?: http://prnt.sc/coap5g
[19:32] <plm> k1l_: The only difference is that 49.0 is on ubuntu and 49.0.1 testes is on debian
[19:32] <k1l_> !bug | plm
[19:33] <c-yco> UUID=cda1db25-3f7c-4d27-8a67-266ac8aec3e5 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[19:33] <c-yco> did also check if the uuid is right
[19:33] <k1l_> fjeek: windows uses a "fake shutdown" to fake a faster boot time. but that lets the ntfs partitions in a bad state, so they cant be used on other OSs. remove the "fast startup" setting from the windows partitions
[19:34] <fjeek> oh man
[19:34] <fjeek> that's stupid
[19:34] <ioria> c-yco, try to add rootfstype=ext4 to the kernel boot line
[19:34] <c-yco> question is how
[19:35] <c-yco> did also found this tipp on the web
[19:36] <c-yco> but don't know how
[19:37] <ioria> c-yco, pressing shift right after bios ?
[19:37] <c-yco> tried ...
[19:37] <c-yco> was not successfull
[19:38] <c-yco> grub is directly bootin
[19:39] <ioria> c-yco, you can try with a livecd, mount your partions and back-up
[19:40] <ioria> c-yco, and post a  sudo parted -l
[19:40] <c-yco> i am writing this from ubuntu live, already mounted the disk
[19:41] <ioria> c-yco,  sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[19:41] <c-yco> http://pastebin.com/qY50rvGi
[19:42] <c-yco> sde is the usb stick i booted from
[19:43] <ioria> c-yco,  sdd it's you ubuntu ... right ?
[19:43] <c-yco> yes
[19:43] <c-yco> first 3 disk are zfs
[19:43] <c-yco> but contain only data
[19:43] <c-yco> root and swap where on sdd
[19:44] <ioria> c-yco,  installed as msdos ....
[19:44] <c-yco> mmh
[19:45] <c-yco> not sure how it was before the upgrade
[19:45] <catbeard> nacc: that worked ty
[19:45] <ioria> c-yco,  you boot from it ?
[19:45] <catbeard> so now i have this in /etc/crypttab
[19:45] <catbeard> sda3_crypt UUID=d1814000-2087-4489-9610-6b4caa54bacb none luks,discard
[19:46] <ioria> c-yco, well, the entire system is gpt
[19:46] <cdorsal> has anyone successfully routed traffic from two different networks (i.e. 10.40.1.0 <-> 172.16.9.1)/
[19:46] <c-yco> except the boot drive ..
[19:46] <ioria> c-yco, what's on the others disks ?
[19:47] <c-yco> only data
[19:47] <c-yco> this is my nas storage
[19:47] <ioria> c-yco, usually the boot device is on sda...
[19:48] <c-yco> lets say the disks are a bit wrong connected, and when i did see this i didn't want to change it because sda, sdb, and sdc are for zfs
[19:49] <c-yco> but till the upgrade it was booting fine from sdd1
[19:49] <ioria> c-yco, meaning ?
[19:49] <ioria> c-yco, ah, ok
[19:49] <c-yco> i did an upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 today
[19:50] <c-yco> so i assume this is the cause
[19:50] <cdorsal> I guess nobody. LOL
[19:51] <c-yco> any ideas?
[19:51] <ioria> c-yco, really don't know... you can try to reinstall grub on sdd or swap the disks
[19:52] <c-yco> how can i reinstall grub? tried to chroot into the disk and tried to grub-mkconfig
[19:52] <olos16_> n ##catholic
[19:52] <cdorsal> has anyone successfully routed traffic from two different networks (i.e. 10.40.1.0 <-> 172.16.9.1)?
[19:52] <nacc> catbeard: np
[19:52] <\9> c-yco: grub-install
[19:52] <\9> grub-mkconfig only builds the config file
[19:53] <th0r> cdorsal, yes, I use a raspbery pi as a gateway
[19:53] <ioria> c-yco, you need to bind mount /dev /sys /run etc ... chroot and sudo grun-install /dev/sdd
[19:53] <c-yco> ok, how
[19:54] <ioria> c-yco, sudo mount --bind /dev/ /mnt/dev   e.g ... the same for /dev/pts    /proc
[19:54] <cdorsal> th0r, can you help me? I tried this: created a hotspot (then changed mode to ap) and am able to connect remotely to my wlan0 (10.40.1.0) but I cannot see the 172.16.9.1 traffic on wireshark from the connected remote system
[19:54] <cdorsal> th0r, I also change default gw to 10.40.1.0
[19:55] <\9> c-yco: http://askubuntu.com/a/88432
[19:56] <\9> the use case is different but the instructions are the same anyway (perhaps with a few redundant steps)
[19:56] <th0r> cdorsal, I can pastebin my iptables rules. The forwarding and such is done in iptables. I am using 192.x.x.x as my private lan, and connecting to a public wifi that is 10.1.1.1
[19:56] <ioria> c-yco, you can use this : for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[19:56] <cdorsal> th0r, that would be awesome. what you're doing is very similar to my use case
[19:56] <ioria> c-yco, then thios : sudo chroot /mnt
[19:57] <th0r> cdorsal, http://paste.debian.net/848922/
[19:57] <ioria> c-yco, and : sudo grub-install /dev/sdX     and sudo update-grub
[19:57] <c-yco> mmh done for everythin except pts
[19:57] <th0r> cdorsal, eth0 is my homenetwork, and wlan0 is the public wifi
[19:57] <cdorsal> th0r, perfect
[19:57] <c-yco> ls /pts
[19:58] <c-yco> pts does not exist on the live nor on the mnt system
[19:58] <RoyK> hm... trying to install ubuntu 16.04 on an older (2008ish) macbook pro just gives me a black screen - nothing more
[19:58] <RoyK> any ideas?
[19:58] <ioria> c-yco, /dev/pts not /pts
[19:59] <c-yco> aah sry
[19:59] <frodef> Hi all, I can't get 16.04 keyboard layout switching to work properly. That is, it works for the window I'm in when switching, but if I go to another window the layout is back to default, and also back to default when I go backt to the original window again... any ideas?
[20:00] <cdorsal> th0r, did you have to play with routes at all? can you ssh, scp, etc?
[20:00] <c-yco> ok done, will have to reboot now to test
[20:00] <c-yco> thx for the help!
[20:00] <ioria> c-yco,  any errors ? did you run sudo update-grub ?
[20:01] <c-yco> yes, both without errors
[20:01] <ioria> c-yco,  ok
[20:01] <th0r> cdorsal, no routing issues. I don't ssh outside the local network, but havent run into any issues so far If I wanted to ssh in I know I would have to do port forwarding at the router
[20:02] <cdorsal> th0r, gotcha. so, are you also using wlan0 as an access point?
[20:02] <th0r> cdorsal, the pi is set up just as a gateway between two networks. Everything that comes in goes to the wifi router
[20:02] <th0r> cdorsal, wlan0 connects to the public wifi so it is just a client to that network
[20:03] <th0r> cdorsal, I think an access point would have the same ip on both sides
[20:04] <cdorsal> th0r, I see. So I'm currently trying to do this: laptop <-> ubuntu thumb drive <-> local network switch
[20:04] <th0r> cdorsal, (the same ip range...not the same ip :)
[20:04] <cdorsal> th0r, it sounds like I'm missing a piece
[20:05] <th0r> cdorsal, is the thumb drive plugged into a computer?
[20:05] <cdorsal> th0r, yep
[20:05] <th0r> cdorsal, ok...exactly what are you trying to do? Access the thumb drive from outside?
[20:05] <cdorsal> th0r, so it's really laptop <-wlan0-> ubuntu thumb drive <-eth0-> local switch
[20:06] <th0r> cdorsal, no....the thumb drive itself doesn't have a nic, does it? It is plugged into a computer and you are accessing that computer
[20:06] <cdorsal> th0r, I need to be able to scp from my laptop to the local switch and listen to the local switch network packets over wifi
[20:06] <th0r> cdorsal, is the thumb drive plugged into the laptop?
[20:07] <cdorsal> th0r, sorry, the thumb drive is connected to a usb hub along with a usb wifi dongle
[20:07] <cdorsal> th0r, the hub is connected to another system
[20:07] <Jakey3> what does this do gpg --keyserver hkp://keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys 409B6B1796C275462A1703113804BB82D39DC0E3
[20:08] <th0r> cdorsal, cdorsal the usb hub is a dumb device...just adds more usb ports to a computer. The usb hub,the drive, and the wifi dongle are all plugged into a computer somewhere, and that computer is what you want to access
[20:09] <cdorsal> th0r, [windows laptop] <-wlan0-> [ubuntu "system" with thumb drive and usb wifi dongle] <-eth0-> [local network]
[20:09] <k1l_> !nomodeset | RoyK
[20:10] <cdorsal> th0r, the thumb drive is not connected to the windows laptop. eth0 is an adapter on the separate system that the thumb drive is connected to
[20:10] <k1l_> RoyK: and look into the wiki.ubuntu.com they have wikipages there for mac hardware and what to do to get it running for that device
[20:10] <th0r> cdorsal, you want to be able to copy to that drive?
[20:12] <cdorsal> th0r, essentially the thumb drive is just there to route the traffic from the local eth0 (on the system that the drive is connected to) to the connected usb wifi dongle (wlan0)
[20:12] <cdorsal> th0r, then I'm connecting my laptop to the wireless access point and trying to listen to the eth0 traffic, which should be forwarded to wlan0
[20:12] <hydroid> 'systemctl suspend' is only working once on my laptop. I'm running ubuntu 16.04  on a mac laptop. Is there a fix to this, or a better way to suspend?
[20:12] <th0r> cdorsal, that drive can't route anything, it is a dumb device. Whatever smarts you have it plugged into is the device you want to get to
[20:13] <cdorsal> th0r, with the thumb drive plugged into the system, and with the wifi dongle connected to the hub I can definitely listen to the eth0 traffic
[20:14] <cdorsal> th0r, but I cannot pass the eth0 traffic to wlan0
[20:14] <cdorsal> th0r, are you saying that it's not possible?
[20:14] <th0r> cdorsal, no but I think there is a much better way to do what you want.
[20:14] <Jakey3> anyone
[20:14] <cdorsal> th0r, please elaborate
[20:14] <prasanta> yaap
[20:15] <th0r> cdorsal, I am assuming the usb hub, wlan0, eth0, and the drive are all plugged into the ubuntu box. That ubuntu box then is what you want to access.
[20:16] <cdorsal> th0r, ah...
[20:16] <th0r> cdorsal, one way to do what you want is to set up all that forwarding, but that will be a very interesting exercise to say the least.
[20:16] <cdorsal> th0r, I cannot tell you what the ubuntu box is, but let's assume it's just a computer with two ethernet ports and a usb port
[20:17] <cdorsal> th0r, so eth0 is actually on the ubuntu box, and the wifi dongle and the ubuntu thumb are connected to the ubuntu box's usb port
[20:17] <th0r> cdorsal, I would consider this....ssh to the ubuntu box and run tcap, which if I remember right is the command line version of wireshark..
[20:18] <cdorsal> th0r, okay, got it
[20:18] <th0r> cdorsal, then you can download the capture file and read it in wireshark, or watch it via ssh in real time if you can keep up with the traffic
[20:19] <th0r> cdorsal, in short, don't try to forward a copy of all that traffic via ubuntu to windows...let ubuntu do the work
[20:19] <th0r> cdorsal, another (better) option is the use X-forwarding, although I dont know if xming runs under the new windows
[20:20] <th0r> cdorsal, then you run wireshark on ubuntu, but it looks like a window on your laptop
[20:20] <th0r> cdorsal, you don't even realize it is really on ubuntu
[20:20] <cdorsal> thor, that's a great idea
[20:21] <th0r> cdorsal, I do X-forwarding all the time between my servers and my desktop/laptop, but I run debian/raspbian on them all
[20:21] <th0r> cdorsal, I used to have xming running on a windows XP laptop and do the same thing, but I don't know if xming worksi anymore
[20:23] <\9> xming works fine today
[20:24] <th0r> cdorsal, there you go...according to \9 xming still works. So install it on your laptop and run wireshark on the ubuntu box to monitor eth0
[20:25] <cdorsal> th0r, perfect
[20:25] <th0r> cdorsal, my bad...it isn't tcap...it is tcpdump that is the command line sniffer
[20:25] <th0r> cdorsal, tcap is the file format that tcpdump and wireshark both use.
[20:26] <th0r> cdorsal, dynamic dump time....long time since I used this stuff
[20:26] <cdorsal> th0r, that's alright, I knew what you meant. thanks again for the help!
[20:26] <cdorsal> th0r, I tend to over complicate things
[20:27] <th0r> cdorsal, no problem...good luck
[20:27] <th0r> cdorsal, I have X on all my servers. Don't need to run it, just have it available. Then I use X-forwarding a lot
[20:29] <th0r> cdorsal, also, with X-forwarding you don't have to do any work on iptables. Just ssh to the box and everything else is done in the tunnell
[20:29] <zartarr> tho
[20:29] <zartarr> th0r !!
[20:30] <cdorsal> th0r, nice! I already installed it and am using it. LOL. problem solved
[20:30] <zartarr> my synology fix up was awesome! thanks again buddy
[20:30] <th0r> zartarr, no problem, glad you got it working
[20:31] <fjeek> hello, I turned off fast startup on windows but this bullshit is still happening: http://prnt.sc/coap5g
[20:31] <zartarr> th0r do you know how to uninstall a package i installed? the pckg was .bundle
[20:31] <zartarr> so whenever i click on the app icon nothing happens, i think uninstalling and reinstalling may help
[20:31] <th0r> zartarr, was it from a repo? a .deb package?
[20:32] <SageX> hello
[20:32] <zartarr> https://askubuntu.com/questions/265192/how-do-i-install-vmware-player-from-a-bundle-file
[20:32] <ultrabenosaurus> if I follow the instructions here (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows) will I get a non-permanent "LiveCD" environment or is it a full install but on a flash drive rather than a HDD?
[20:32] <k1l_> fjeek: did you turn that off for all the disk you want to mount on ubuntu?
[20:32] <th0r> zartarr, sorry, never messed with vmware so wouldn't even know where to start.
[20:32] <SageX> I'm sitting in class and the professor, plugged his ubuntu laptop into the projector, and he lost his cursor anyone know a quick fix?
[20:33] <zartarr> but lets assume its just a normal package
[20:33] <zartarr> how do i go about installing something
[20:33] <zartarr> from my system ?
[20:33] <zartarr> to install it all i did was c+h blah blah... and then ./ xxx
[20:33] <fjeek> k1l_: it was only a tick that I had to untick: http://www.tenforums.com/attachments/tutorials/12684d1424033491t-fast-startup-turn-off-windows-10-a-fast_startup-3.jpg?s=4683bd1662c2418c756efb8813728900
[20:33] <k1l_> SageX: try to go to ctrl+alt+f1 and back to ctrl+alt+f7
[20:34] <SageX> k1l_: I'll ask the professor
[20:34] <k1l_> fjeek: ah yes. i had in mind that was seperate for all disks.
[20:34] <th0r> zartarr, when you did ./xxx that ran a script. You would have to read through that script to find out what it installed and where. There might be an uninstall script, but I wouldn't know where it was
[20:35] <zartarr> ah snap gotcha that makes sense
[20:35] <fjeek> k1l_: so what is my problem right now?
[20:35] <zartarr> how do i just read a script on my own?
[20:35] <gebruiker> out of all DE i tested today Unity has the best font rendering even when browsing with firefox
[20:35] <zartarr> gedit something something probably right
[20:35] <k1l_> fjeek: you can use ntfsfix to get it working again
[20:35] <gebruiker> i just wish it would more responsive / fast
[20:35] <th0r> zartarr, open it with a text editor...in a terminal 'nano ./xxx'
[20:35] <zartarr> gotcha k ty
[20:36] <fjeek> k1l_: do I do that on ubuntu?
[20:36] <SageX> k1l_: he just attempted it
[20:36] <fjeek> fjeek: is there a command?
[20:36] <gebruiker> also if xfs is more robost why does ubuntu use ext4?
[20:37] <k1l_> fjeek: make sure "ntfs-3g" is installed. then "sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda2"
[20:37] <SageX> k1l_: doesn't work
[20:37] <fjeek> k1l_: sorry, I'm a noob. how do I make sure that ntfs-3g is installed?
[20:38] <k1l_> SageX: is the mouse outside the window now?
[20:38] <k1l_> fjeek: sudo apt install ntfs-3g
[20:38] <SageX> k1l_:  he gave up will attempt in a short amount of tie
[20:38] <SageX> time
[20:38] <ultrabenosaurus> if I follow the instructions here (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows) will I get a non-permanent "LiveCD" environment or is it a full install but on a flash drive rather than a HDD?
[20:38] <k1l_> gebruiker: ext4 is very robust and has been a proper standard filesystem
[20:39] <fjeek> k1l_
[20:39] <fjeek> Windows is hibernated, refused to mount. Remount failed: Operation not permitted
[20:39] <k1l_> gebruiker: especially the possible data loss on power shortage is a no-go for a standard FS like xfs got.
[20:39] <gebruiker> k1l_, okay.. but that does not really answer the question for me. XFS is less robust than ext4 ?
[20:40] <k1l_> fjeek: make sure your shutdown your windows properly.
[20:40] <fjeek> k1l_: I'm certainly sure
[20:40] <gebruiker> k1l_, i remember reading threads on kernel dev that xfs is more robust than ext4
[20:40] <k1l_> gebruiker: yeah, i guess that were the xfs guys :)
[20:41] <zartarr> sorry another silly question
[20:41] <gebruiker> k1l_, i am curious why ext4 is more robust?
[20:41] <zartarr> whats the ctrl alt del equivalent of linux
[20:41] <k1l_> gebruiker: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XFS
[20:41] <zartarr> to kill a hanging program
[20:42] <k1l_> zartarr: is it a gui program? then start "xkill" with alt+f2 and click on that program
[20:42] <gebruiker> k1l_, no entry for ext4 to make an objective comparison
[20:43] <flor_> hello?
[20:43] <fjeek> zartarr: there's system monitor on ubuntu. you can go to keyboard settings and make your own shortcut for system monitor
[20:44] <SageX> k1l_:  he restarted multiple times and the cursor is not doing anything....
[20:44] <fjeek> k1l_: if I'm sure that I shut down windows properly, what should I do now?
[20:45] <k1l_> fjeek: ntfsfix is the tool to clean that situation. if that doesnt work i dont know. must be an windows issue then
[20:47] <Gourlay> anyone who can give me advice on eliminating screen tearing in winesoftware Acestream or guide me where to ask on IRC? No answer in Wine IRC chat.
[20:47] <k1l_> gebruiker: that you cant shrink a xfs FS is a total no-go, too.
[20:48] <gebruiker> k1l_, yes but from my reading it is slower than ext3 and not to forget the fsync dataloss soap
[20:50] <k1l_> gebruiker: ok, to make that short: you dont exchange a FS with another FS with the same or more issues. ext4 has been the standard since it works in its limits. the next FS will be btrfs, most say.
[20:50] <Bashing-om> Gourlay: Nvidia with optimus for graphics ?
[20:51] <gebruiker> k1l_, yeah at the time ext4 was released xfs seemed or at least proven to be more robost and may folks said that it was more a matter of convience
[20:52] <gebruiker> *many folks
[20:52] <gebruiker> ext3 --> ext4
[20:52] <k1l_> gebruiker: xfs has serious issues like i told you. and i see no reason why people should not use xfs if it was the best FS. so just because some guys like xfs and can work with the limits and issues, that doesnt make it a good standard FS for everyone.
[20:53] <Gourlay> Bashing-om, Have no screen tearing on my Ubuntu videos. Have Nvidia GeForce 9500M GS, proprietary driver.
[20:53] <k1l_> gebruiker: if xfs fits your needs, you can use that on ubuntu.
[20:53] <bekks> Is the unability to shrink xfs the only negative point so far?
[20:53] <Bashing-om> Gourlay: Sorry, then My thought then does not apply .
[20:55] <Gourlay> Bashing-om, I would like to ask where some Wine specific question chat on IRC; but can't find one.
[20:55] <gebruiker> k1l_, odd, i read that xfs has 20 years of stable development while ext4 only since 2006, so that makes it only 1 year older than btrfs.. can you expand on the issues of xdfs?
[20:56] <k1l_> gebruiker: ext4 is based on the ext family. which is far older
[20:56] <bluetree> I can compile it and install a custom keyboard map with setxkbmap but for some reasons Alt_R in not activating the keys on the third column, if anyone knows what I'm talking about
[20:57] <k1l_> gebruiker: the wiki page i linked names the most famous disadvantages. i think that is enough to not make it a standard FS on ubuntu.
[20:57] <k1l_> gebruiker: if you want do discuss about FS in general than #ubuntu-offtopic might suit better
[20:59] <gebruiker> k1l_,  yes but on the other hand i read that theodore Ts said that it has improved features but no major advance as it uses old tech. Also ext4 does not seem to honor secure deletion file attribute and even though a patch was submitted it did not solve the problem of sensitive data ending up in the file system journal
[20:59] <ultrabenosaurus> if I follow the instructions here (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows) will I get a non-permanent "LiveCD" environment or is it a full install but on a flash drive rather than a HDD?
[20:59] <sed12> hi
[20:59] <gebruiker> also the delayed allocation and potential data loss issues that ext4 has
[20:59] <k1l_> ultrabenosaurus: that is a live cd environment
[20:59] <gebruiker> but yeah i think offtopic might be better
[20:59] <sed12> i have a problem
[21:00] <sed12> grub timeout doesnt work
[21:00] <sed12> every time i install a new kernel, i must edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg to change the timeout
[21:00] <sed12> its a very old problem
[21:00] <Bashing-om> !wine | Gourlay
[21:01] <k1l_> gebruiker: yes, and it still outruns xfs as a standard FS. its not that ext4 has no issues. its just that no other stable FS suits all the setups for a standard FS better so far.
[21:02] <k1l_> sed12: that is not how you edit it. there is even a warning on that file to not do what you do
[21:02] <k1l_> sed12: you need to change the defaults file
[21:02] <k1l_> sed12: /etc/default/grub
[21:03] <sed12> man, the defaults file is shit, it doesnt work
[21:03] <sed12> that what im talking about
[21:03] <k1l_> sed12: no, you said <sed12> every time i install a new kernel, i must edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg to change the timeout
[21:03] <sed12> ubuntu 15, ubuntu 16 - /etc/default/grub timeout setting doesnt work
[21:03] <Bashing-om> sed12: If grub is in a consistent state then an edit to the /etc/default/grub file AND 'sudo update-grub' should be all that is needed .
[21:03] <sed12> i edit grub.cfg because grub file doesnt work
[21:03] <sed12> i did that too
[21:04] <sed12> i ran update-grub and still doesnt work
[21:04] <sed12> and its a very old problem
[21:04] <k1l_> sed12: please show your /etc/defaults/grub file and show the output of "sudo update-grub" in a pastebin please
[21:04] <sed12> current grub file is untouched, i only change timeout in grub.cfg, i learned my lesson
[21:05] <k1l_> sed12: ok. then stop ranting in here if you dont want to solve the issue. thanks
[21:05] <sed12> every time update-grub was successful
[21:05] <sed12> every time timeout was the fscking same
[21:05] <sed12> only after i changed it in grub.cfg it worked
[21:06] <tgm4883> sed12: calm down
[21:06] <alejandro> Hi?
[21:06] <sed12> its a very very old problem
[21:06] <alejandro> what's up
[21:06] <sed12> i googled and im not the only one complaining
[21:06] <sed12> i think even ubuntu 14 had the same problem
[21:07] <tgm4883> sed12: you either need to do what the people here are asking you to do, or go complain somewhere else. This channel is for support
[21:07] <sed12> tgm4883, tomorrow i shall post it
[21:07] <sed12> but i have a feeling nothing will be solved
[21:07] <tgm4883> sed12: why wait until tomorrow?
[21:07] <sed12> its a really, really old problem
[21:08] <tgm4883> sed12: I've not had that issue before
[21:08] <k1l_> sed12: then come back when you can provide facts. this channel is not  for rantings.
[21:08] <sed12> man, im not in america
[21:08] <tgm4883> sed12: ???
[21:08] <sed12> ?????
[21:08] <tgm4883> irrelevant?
[21:08] <sed12> not quite :D
[21:08] <tgm4883> I'm pretty confident that update-grub doesn't do a geoip lookup
[21:09] <sed12> update-grub every time returns 0
[21:09] <sed12> success! success!
[21:09] <sed12> i reboot and... timeout=10 secs
[21:09] <tgm4883> sed12: which timeout setting are you changing?
[21:09] <k1l_> sed12: can you now provide the output?
[21:09] <sed12> tomorrow, guys
[21:10] <k1l_> sed12: so come back tomorrow
[21:10] <sed12> its quite an old problem
[21:10] <Bashing-om> sed12: The 1st line in that file " # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE " . Do you not think there exists a better way ?
[21:10] <sed12> im experienced, i know what to change
[21:11] <k1l_> no need to discuss that without plain facts provided. so come back tomorrow.
[21:11] <lordcirth> It's not really about experience, the warning is more because it gets overwritten so often
[21:11] <tgm4883> sed12: I just tested it here and it works fine editing /etc/default/grub
[21:11] <tgm4883> sed12: there's no reason to reboot to check if update-grub worked
[21:11] <sed12> tgm4883, ubuntu 15,15,16, my old pc, current pc - never worked
[21:12] <sed12> i reboot to see if timeout was changed
[21:12] <sed12> and it never is
[21:12] <tgm4883> sed12: well to be fair, you keep saying that but aren't providing any data
[21:12] <sed12> its always 10 fscking second
[21:12] <sed12> guys, there was peace and silence here
[21:12] <tgm4883> sed12: you don't need to reboot to check that. After running update-grub,  just look in the grub.cfg file and see if it updated
[21:13] <sed12> man, it was successful, why even bother?
[21:13] <k1l_> sed12: you have still not shown any prove that the right way doesnt work. so its just your sayings vs. millions of users not having that issue. so provide some facts or come back tomorrow
[21:13] <Jordan_U> sed12: I can help you , but you don't seem to actually want help. If your next comment isn't one giving the information requested (I would personally like to see the complete contents of /etc/default/grub and your complete, unmodified, /boot/grub/grub.cfg) then I won't bother trying to help you tomorrow either. If you can't provide any useful information today, then please don't post any further comments
[21:13] <Jordan_U> today.
[21:13] <sed12> if update grub returns 0 and nothing is changed, is it my fault?
[21:13] <tgm4883> sed12: can you paste your /etc/default/grub file
[21:14] <sed12> tomorrow
[21:14] <Jordan_U> sed12: Nobody has said that it's your fault. Please leave for now and come back tomorrow.
[21:14] <tgm4883> sed12: that depends, did you fubar your /etc/default/grub file? If so, then yes
[21:14] <tgm4883> geez
[21:14] <k1l_> sed12: so come back tomorrow to solve that issue then. for plain rantings this is the wrong channel
[21:15] <tgm4883> this isn't rocket science. update-grub reads from the /etc/default/grub file and generates the grub.cfg file.
[21:17] <Jordan_U> tgm4883: There are times where Ubuntu's grub-mkconfig overrides the timeout setting given in /etc/default/grub.
[21:17] <tgm4883> Jordan_U: when
[21:19] <Jordan_U> tgm4883: When GRUB_TIMEOUT=0 and a second OS is detected. This is becaue of how Ubuntu modified grub-mkconfig so that when no OS is detected the grub menu is not shown, but when another OS is detected it is shown.
[21:19] <EriC^^> sed12: it's the recordfail maybe
[21:20] <EriC^^> try setting GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=$GRUB_TIMEOUT
[21:20] <oshekfeh> Hi everybody, I installed teamviewer on my Ubuntu but it caused many problems, I restarted the system then I failed to login and I received “Failed to start session”. I went to the terminal and tried to reinstall ubuntu session or execute apt-get update, but I received the following error: “E: some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead”. What can I do to overcome this error and get back my Ubuntu work again?
[21:20] <EriC^^> it's like a fallback timeout grub uses when it thinks it didn't boot properly before
[21:20] <Jordan_U> tgm4883: Search for "timeout" in /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober .
[21:22] <Exodious> hello everyone
[21:22] <Exodious> how do i see which graphics i have on my laptop
[21:22] <Exodious> i wanna check if i can plug in 2k monitor
[21:23] <k1l_> Exodious: "lspci"
[21:24] <Jordan_U> tgm4883: My recommendation for users hitting that particular issue is to create a new file /boot/grub/custom.cfg with the contents "timeout=0" (without the quotes), then add a comment to /etc/default/grub noting that they have done so (otherwise they may be surprised if they later try to set GRUB_DEFAULT to a non-zero value and it has no effect). But I wouldn't recommend doing so without first confirming
[21:24] <Jordan_U> that that is what is going on.
[21:25] <oshekfeh> Any idea about clearing this error “E: some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead”?? Please
[21:25] <EriC^^> oshekfeh: might be old ppa's
[21:25] <EriC^^> paste sudo apt-get update
[21:26] <EriC^^> !paste
[21:26] <k1l_> oshekfeh: better put all "sudo apt update" output to paste.ubuntu.com and link it here
[21:26] <ash_workz> so if I have php 5.3 running on a system and I want to specifically upgrade to 5.4; would `apt-get upgrade php5=5.4` work?
[21:26] <bekks> !info php-5.4
[21:26] <oshekfeh> EriC^^: sudo apt-get update is the command which gave me that error>
[21:26] <bekks> ash_workz: No, since that package doesnt exist.
[21:26] <ash_workz> well
[21:27] <ash_workz> can you do 5.4.{latest} somehow?
[21:27] <k1l_> ash_workz: php7 is in 16.04
[21:27] <bekks> ash_workz: there is no 5.4 in the repos anymore.
[21:27] <EriC^^> oshekfeh: yeah we need to see the error and ppas
[21:27] <ash_workz> drat
[21:27] <bekks> ash_workz: Time to upgrade to a supported php release? :)
[21:28] <ash_workz> so I have to build from source if I want to use 5.4?
[21:28] <bekks> ash_workz: why dont you want to use php 7?
[21:28] <oshekfeh> EriC^^: Ok 1 min
[21:29] <ash_workz> bekks: I don't have control over that decision
[21:29] <bekks> ash_workz: but you are the one to tell those people that php 5.4 is horribly outdated :)
[21:29] <nubcake> upgraded my home-server to php7 now half of my self coded stuff doesn't work anymore :'D
[21:30] <ash_workz> bekks: those people are aware of this crime
[21:30] <nubcake> either i'm a horrible php-coder, or php7 really does bring some new things
[21:30] <ash_workz> nubcake: it does
[21:30] <nubcake> neat, didn't have enough time to look deeper into it. anything big enough to mention?
[21:32] <oshekfeh> EriC^^: It’s hard to paste the output because the text appear in another computer, and there is no way to copy it. But it looks like I found the error which say: “Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/InRelease cleared signed file” ..
[21:32] <bekks> oshekfeh: use ssh?
[21:32] <guvn0r> take a photo on ur cellphone and post it to imgr
[21:32] <oshekfeh> bekks: I installed openssh-server, but for some reason it’s not workin
[21:32] <Jordan_U> ash_workz: If you want something that isn't horribly insecure you should at least be using PHP 5.6 : http://php.net/supported-versions.php .
[21:33] <bekks> oshekfeh: Did you start it after installing it?
[21:33] <ash_workz> Jordan_U: yeah
[21:33] <oshekfeh> bekks: I restart the machine!
[21:34] <EriC^^> oshekfeh: are you sure it said cleared signed file?
[21:34] <oshekfeh> EriC^^: yes
[21:35] <ash_workz> I don't get it... even `apt-get upgrade php5=5.6` doesn't do anything
[21:35] <bekks> !info php
[21:35] <k1l_> ash_workz: what ubuntu are you running there?
[21:35] <ash_workz> !info php-5.6
[21:36] <ash_workz> 12.04
[21:36] <bekks> !12.04 | ash_workz
[21:36] <ash_workz> shit
[21:36] <k1l_> uh. so you are using manual installs anyway?
[21:36] <bekks> Hmm. ok.
[21:36] <ash_workz> I bet 5.3 is EOL for 12.04
[21:37] <k1l_> 12.04 still got support. but only for the stuff in main
[21:37] <Jordan_U> ash_workz: I never claimed that PHP 5.6 is in the repos. You would still need to find some other source for obtaining PHP 5.6, but at least it might be secure. With 5.4 you're guaranteed not to be secure.
[21:37] <ash_workz> :: screams :: *whhhhhhyyyyy*
[21:38] <ash_workz> Jordan_U: I'm just trying to keep the local env remotely similar to the POS in prod.
[21:38] <Jordan_U> ash_workz: What is currently in production?
[21:40] <oshekfeh> EriC^^: This is the whole problem https://s3.postimg.org/4ak576itv/Whats_App_Image_2016_10_01_at_12_36_10_AM.jpg
[21:41] <oshekfeh> bekks: How can I start ssh after install it?
[21:41] <k1l_> oshekfeh: can you run "sudo apt-get update | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the url here?
[21:41] <bekks> oshekfeh: you edit the sources.list file(s) and have a typo in "i1386", which needs to be "i386" instead.
[21:42] <k1l_> oshekfeh: and seems like you made a mistake adding a architecture with a typo and that your network is using some sort of proxy
[21:42] <Torrone> hello, how do I unzip a .zip file in Ubuntu 10.04.4
[21:42] <Torrone> ?
[21:42] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: oshekfeh 32 bit operating system ? Google has dropped all 32 bit support .
[21:42] <oshekfeh> k1l_: So? What I should do?
[21:43] <k1l_> Torrone: please dont say you still run 10.04?
[21:43] <Torrone> not my server
[21:43] <k1l_> oshekfeh: first, correct the issue with the architecture
[21:43] <Torrone> k1l_, I need to do stuff with someone else's
[21:43] <Torrone> is it really important, I'm kinda in a hurry
[21:43] <Torrone> ?
[21:43] <oshekfeh> k1l_: What I should do?
[21:43] <k1l_> Torrone: use unzip on cli
[21:44] <k1l_> Torrone: but this is really really idiotic to run a EOL system.
[21:44] <Torrone> k1l_, E: Couldn't find package unzip
[21:44] <Torrone> I'm on a server
[21:44] <k1l_> Torrone: repos are down, since its EOL
[21:44] <Torrone> I'm not running it, I need to migrate stuff from it
[21:44] <bekks> Torrone: you are on a server which is EOL. No packages available anymore, and no updates as well.
[21:44] <Torrone> jesus
[21:44] <Torrone> what do I do?
[21:45] <k1l_> Torrone: so use tar then?
[21:45] <Jordan_U> Torrone: Do you have local access?
[21:45] <Torrone> can I open .zip with t.tar?
[21:45] <Torrone> Jordan_U, what do you mean? I'm ssh in it
[21:46] <Jordan_U> Torrone: Can you just walk over to it and boot from a 16.04 LiveUSB? (I'm guessing the answer is no).
[21:47] <k1l_> oshekfeh: "dpkg --print-foreign-architectures"
[21:47] <confundus> Torrone: Can you scp unzip from your local machine to there?
[21:47] <Torrone> lol nope, I'm thousands miles from it
[21:47] <k1l_> Torrone: use tar to get the data you want to keep, then reinstall a modern release and put the data back
[21:47] <oshekfeh> k1l_: I will do it. Here is the result of the first command which you gave to me https://s21.postimg.org/unnmcjvjb/Whats_App_Image_2016_10_01_at_12_44_45_AM.jpg
[21:48] <skinux> I installed MariaDB from repo when I already had existing MySQL DBs. Now I need to know how to get to the DBs I had and migrate them to MariaDB?
[21:48] <Torrone> yeah, but I only need to save some files from it and I don't have much time
[21:48] <k1l_> oshekfeh: you can copy the url in here? no need to make a photo every time
[21:48] <Torrone> I'm piling up downtime atm
[21:48] <Torrone> lol
[21:48] <bekks> Torrone: So use tar, not zip instead.
[21:49] <Jordan_U> Torrone: Why do you need to unzip anything?
[21:49] <Torrone> I need to run a script to synch a folder with amazon s3
[21:49] <nacc> skinux: depending on how you did it, i thought the dbs migrated over seamlessly
[21:49] <Torrone> so I need to install a software that comes zipped in .zip format
[21:49] <oshekfeh> k1l_: as I mentioned before, I failed to use ssh, so I can’t get the text!
[21:49] <skinux> nacc: I simply installed it using apt-get
[21:50] <Jordan_U> Torrone: You can't just scp the directory to your local machine then sync from there to amazon?
[21:50] <nacc> skinux: did you remove mysql first?
[21:50] <skinux> I connected to it using HeidiSQL and all my databases are gone, so I think I need to migrate
[21:50] <skinux> No I didn't remove MySQL first.
[21:50] <confundus> Torrone: Do you have busybox? Chances are it has unzip
[21:50] <nacc> skinux: i'm reading, e.g., http://askubuntu.com/questions/531455/how-to-drop-in-replace-mysql-with-mariadb
[21:50] <Torrone> Jordan_U, maybe, but I don't have that skill yet and I don't have much time
[21:50] <k1l_> oshekfeh: that system seems like a mess. 12.04, 14.04 repos and ppas using 16.04
[21:50] <skinux> Although, when trying to troubleshooting problems with MariaDB, MySQL itself did get removed for a minute.
[21:51] <nacc> skinux: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/switching-to-mariadb-from-mysql implies the same
[21:52] <oshekfeh> k1l_: Here is the forigen artchitecture https://s16.postimg.org/m9dolbjp1/Whats_App_Image_2016_10_01_at_12_50_01_AM.jpg
[21:52] <oshekfeh> k1l_: What I should do to fix my system?
[21:52] <skinux> Okay, so since I didn't remove MySQL FIRST, is all my data gone?
[21:52] <nacc> skinux: i have no idea, i'd assume not
[21:52] <nacc> skinux: you could try removing mariadb and seeing if mysql client still is able to access it
[21:53] <Jordan_U> Torrone: sshfs username@server_hostname:/ /mnt/
[21:53] <nacc> skinux: i would assume unless you did something like -y to apt, it would have asked to remove databases
[21:53] <nacc> skinux: regardless, i hope you made backups first
[21:53] <k1l_> oshekfeh: "sudo dpkg --remove-architecture i1386"
[21:53] <skinux> Nah, I didn't make backups
[21:53] <Jordan_U> Torrone: After that, the root filesystem of the remote server will be mounted to /mnt/ and you can copy files around however you like, including with a GUI file manager.
[21:53] <nacc> skinux: then you can't possibly have cared about your data, go ahead and just continue with mariadb
[21:53] <skinux> Fair enough
[21:54] <Torrone> Jordan_U, thank you but I decided it's not worth it, I'm already downloading with ftp from a machine of which I won't tell the operating system not to offend anyone here
[21:54]  * Torrone is hiding something
[21:54] <ratul> Any ASUS Zenbook Flip UX360 user here? Wanted to know whether Ubuntu changes orientation (landscape and portrait) on this device, like Windows does.
[21:58] <oshekfeh> k1l_: I still unable to update, same problem!
[21:59] <skinux> Well, it seems I can connect to MySQL using HeidiSQL, but can't connect to MySQL using the same credentials via PHP script.
[21:59] <k1l_> oshekfeh: details matter.
[22:00] <nacc> skinux: to MySQL or MariaDB?
[22:00] <skinux> Maria
[22:00] <nacc> skinux: I don't know what HeidiSQL is
[22:00] <skinux> HeidiSQL is a desktop client replacement for phpMyAdmin
[22:00] <k1l_> oshekfeh: there are still some issues left. but it would be good to know if that error is fixed now. does "dpkg --print-foreign-architectures" only show i386 now?
[22:00] <nacc> skinux: ok, it's important to be specific given the two server types now
[22:00] <nacc> skinux: php script running on a webserver? can you access using php from the cli?
[22:01] <oshekfeh> k1l_: yep
[22:01] <skinux> What do you mean access using PHP from CLI?
[22:01] <k1l_> oshekfeh: ok, so the first issue (a typo) is fixed now.
[22:01] <k1l_> oshekfeh: please run "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the url it outputs here
[22:03] <nacc> skinux: php on the command-line?
[22:03] <k1l_> oshekfeh: no need to upload a foto there. just show the url
[22:04] <oshekfeh> k1l_: you need the url of the photo?
[22:04] <k1l_> oshekfeh: no, just the url that was the outpu
[22:04] <k1l_> *output
[22:07] <oshekfeh> k1l_: I failed to run openssh-server. I have only photos, is it Ok for you?
[22:08] <k1l_> oshekfeh: i mean its faster if you type the url you see on that machine into here, than loading up a foto everytime just for a url :)
[22:09] <oshekfeh> k1l_: Thank you  :) but some times there are a lot of details!
[22:10] <oshekfeh> k1l_: https://postimg.org/image/r667qgv9d/ like ere :(
[22:11] <k1l_> oshekfeh: that command i gave you should have output a url
[22:11] <k1l_> oshekfeh: please run "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the url it outputs here
[22:11] <AndChat|84084> What kind of patches are applied to the kernel in Ubuntu?
[22:12] <oshekfeh> k1l_: Ah, ok ,thank
[22:12] <nacc> AndChat|84084: security fixes, some build changes (presumably to get the right version string, etc.) and backports, etc. Why?
[22:13] <Jessica-J> Nacc I want to try to compile my own for learning
[22:13] <nacc> Jessica-J: you want to try and compile your own Ubuntu kernel? to learn what?
[22:13] <Jessica-J> But I wanted the special Ubuntu patches too
[22:13] <nacc> Jessica-J: the ubuntu package/build process is specific to Ubuntu and isn't really need to learn how to build the kernel
[22:13] <k1l_> Jessica-J: start here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/
[22:15] <Jessica-J> Nacc I thought that there might be patches other than security fixes and backports
[22:16] <nacc> Jessica-J: well, there might also be enablement patches, i suppose, depending on the release
[22:16] <nacc> Jessica-J: but you can just check out the git tree(s) to see
[22:17] <oshekfeh> k1l_: The same strange output
[22:18] <k1l_> oshekfeh: are you sure you added "| nc termbin.com 9999" at the end?
[22:19] <k1l_> oshekfeh: if so, then you should not see any output besides a url
[22:47]  * skank 🍁  pumps gallons of jizz all over gajuith !  🍂
[22:52] <skinux> nacc: How am I supposed to test a web app script using command-line?
[22:53] <nacc> skinux: you can test sql access for php via cli
[22:53] <skinux> Oh, you mean writing out the php sql api
[22:54] <fjeek> hey, when I volume up/down, this thing doesn't show up on the screen. you know, the thing that shows the volume. don't know its name. what to do?
[22:54] <skinux> into the cli that is
[22:58] <guvn0r> i want to stream online radio using my terminal. anyone know if theres a program that can do that?
[22:58] <skinux> nacc: Okay, I get connected via PHP
[23:00] <nacc> skinux: hrm, odd, i guess maybe it's someting in your webserver -- sorry, i'm not able to help right now
[23:12] <SQL> skinux: don't touch my api!
[23:26] <tomreyn> fjeek: you may be looking for an OSD, an on screen display. NotifyOSD bubbles should display the volume through the indicator framework.
[23:27] <tomreyn> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/notifyosdconfig allows you to modify the bubbles
[23:27] <tomreyn> (this is a 4rd party repository, thus not a supported package)
[23:27] <tomreyn> *3rd
[23:27] <QuickQuestion> Hey guys I've have a quick question and IDK if this belongs here but is there a watch to use FASFA or get financial aid or a student loan for an A+ certification?
[23:30] <tomreyn> yes that doesn't belong here. (and yes s/he left.)
[23:51] <dude> Hi guys :) microsoft claimed my last gray hair a couple days ago, and i installed Lubuntu. Been askin arround #Lubuntu and #OpenBox to no avial. So here goes; is there a way i can implement the menu-bar into the title-bar in Lubuntu, like in Ubuntu using unity-tweak?
[23:59] <hwoarang420> hello kitties