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bmg505Hello, long time no talk05:55
Symmetriasup05:56
Symmetriaheh so - Zimbabwe just came by far and away the country in Africa with the most ipv6 deployment05:56
Symmetriaaccording to every metric05:56
inetprobmg505: good mornings08:07
inetproKilos: how are you doing?08:07
inetprooh and good mornings to all and sundry as well08:08
inetprowelcome back drussell08:21
Kilosmy goosie, im fine ty, how are you and the family08:43
KilosMaaz coffee on08:47
* Maaz washes some mugs08:47
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!08:51
Kilosmaaz hurry08:51
MaazMaking decent coffee is an art Kilos and should never be rushed08:51
KilosMaaz botsnack08:51
MaazYAY someone cares about me too!08:51
inetproall good thanks09:20
Kilosyay09:20
inetprohave you looked after your sheep as well already?09:21
Kiloshmm...09:21
Kiloshere my girls look after me09:22
inetprowho's checking those poor animals at home now?09:22
Kilosthe neighbour09:22
inetproah, ok09:22
MaNImust be nice to have neighbours you can actually trust to do things09:23
inetproare you alooiwed to run around already?09:23
inetproallowed as well09:24
Kilosi am supposed to take it easy and no straining09:45
Kilosbut allowed to walk so have walked some ks 09:46
Kilosand i cook some09:52
Kiloseating kangaroo curry now09:52
Kiloshopefully that will add some bounce in my steps09:53
Kilosoh MaNI when im there i look after his sheep, and help with other farm duties09:57
Kiloswe work well together09:58
MaNIahh okay10:01
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Kilosnight all. sleep tight12:41
inetprowb Symmetria16:04
inetprohow do they get to lead with ipv6 in Zim?16:05
kulelu88superfly: do you know of a quick-start REST API lib that I can use without needing a backend DB for it?20:01
superflykulelu88: uh, there are a lot of assuptions in that questions20:02
kulelu88superfly: I am attempting to test a REST API request using the Telegram API20:02
superflykulelu88: a RESTful API is simply an API that makes use of the HTTP verbs correctly20:02
MaNIyeah - not sure why you'd need a db20:03
MaNII used nginx with slim for a relatively light weight setup last time I needed one 20:04
kulelu88MaNI: I was looking at Eve, but that requires a giant MongoDB install20:05
superflyI generally just use Flask and write a few functions20:05
kulelu88I see this: https://flask-restful.readthedocs.io/en/latest/quickstart.html#a-minimal-api20:06
superflykulelu88: when we were looking to write our API at work, we looked at Flask-Restful, but when we saw the class-based system it uses, we dropped it like a hot potato. We knew that we'd have a ton of classes with just one method in each.20:09
kulelu88superfly: this is just a minimal test though. I don't intend on building on any of these without evaluating them all20:09
superflykulelu88: https://bin.snyman.info/mmmcg89w20:13
kulelu88that easy superfly D:20:14
superflykulelu88: it's not difficult, REST is just a way of doing things, you don't need a library for it20:16
MaNIwell in it's simplest form you could make a 'REST' API just by writing some static files to a webserver20:30
MaNIit's just routing URLs to information basically20:32
kulelu88so a REST API is just a router that follows the principles of REST (GET, POST, DELETE, ...) ?20:32
MaNIyeah pretty much20:34
kulelu88some people make REST APIs sound like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2F-DItXtZs MaNI 20:36
MaNIheh20:37
MaNIsome people can make anything sound like that :p20:37
kulelu88MaNI: are you web-scale? 20:38
MaNII was but then I took an arrow to the knee20:40
superflyhahahaha20:41
superflydev null is webscale!20:42
kulelu88MaNI: if this was 2013, you could swap web-scale for "is your code single-threaded" :D20:43
MaNIsingle threaded, but multi process20:43
kulelu88MaNI: you work weekends?21:12
MaNIoften21:13
MaNIwell not part of my normal job, but I've got a rather time intensive side project thats come up21:13
kulelu88commercial? MaNI 21:22
MaNIdefine commercial, I'm getting paid to do it so I guess, the code is open though21:24
kulelu88link? :D21:24
MaNIgulden.com21:24
kulelu88MaNI: bitcoin clone?21:28
MaNIyeah21:29
kulelu88:D nice . sounds interesting21:30
MaNIdifferent to what I usually work on thats for sure21:31
kulelu88does it only work in Europe and do exchanges support gulden? 21:33
MaNII'm a bit wary to mention it generally as lots of bitcoin clones are seedy - so worried about the reputation :p21:35
MaNIit works everywhere, but there is some europe specific functionality, like you can pay directly to a bank account via IBAN 21:36
MaNIthats currently only supported in netherlands21:36
kulelu88so I can't buy with a ZAR IBAN?21:36
kulelu88aah21:36
MaNIyeah21:36
kulelu88as long as it ain't like the MMM ponzi scheme :D21:36
MaNIthey want to add it to more countries, but obviously means setting up legal entities and stuff21:36
MaNInah not like that at all21:37
MaNImain exchange for it is bittrex - but thats only BTC<>NLG 21:37
MaNInot FIAT<>NLG21:37
MaNIsadly21:37
kulelu88arbitrage is possible among these exchanges21:37
MaNIsometimes21:38
MaNIthe bitx rate for ZAR<>BTC differs from the rate you will calculate if you take e.g. BTC->USD->ZAR21:38
MaNIbut the problem is the forex fees that get added on the USD->ZAR part - so the difference is mostly that being factored in21:39
MaNImarket automatically fixes any arbitrage that appears I guess 21:39
kulelu88the banks don't joke with forex fees21:40
MaNIyeah - I got nailed hard by forex once21:40
MaNInow I'm scared of it :p21:40
kulelu88you do the C++ stuff right? MaNI 21:41
MaNIwe were going to go to canada for a year for my wife to study, to get the visa we had to pay the fees for studying in advance, they denied her based on health reasons, in the meantime the rand tanked + double forex fees - like a money vanishing magic trick21:41
MaNIyeah I'm mostly C++ - but I'm versatile ;)21:41
MaNIfor gulden I'm spending a lot of time doing also the android app (java) and iOS app (objc) - it's nice to experience some other things just to keep the skills sharp21:42
kulelu88the total education fees in advance? isn't that like >5 times our local fees? 21:43
kulelu88I know Ivy league colleges in the US are like >60K p.a21:43
MaNIyeah not an ivy college thankfully21:43
MaNIwas just an advanced makeup thing - like film makeup and animatronics and whatnot, 1 year course21:44
MaNIstill not cheap21:44
MaNIthat was like 10 years ago though the rand was still a bit stronger back then21:45
kulelu88aah 2006 the rand was barely 7/8 to the US dollar :P21:45
MaNIlike a week after they refunded me at crappy forex rates the rand rebounded, would have lost a lot less money if they waited - dangerous stuff forex :P21:46
kulelu88MaNI: you had a 30 day window to hold the money21:46
MaNII knew a lot less about banking back then, now I probably would have put up a bigger fight21:47
kulelu88sounds like a fun side-gig :P building a mobile wallet for netherlands-coin :P21:48
MaNIyeah, fun but intense, the exposure to extra dutch culture is interesting21:50
MaNIthey know surprisingly little about South Africa considering our history - I think they tried to forget about us :p21:50
kulelu88hahahaha. Do they even know what Afrikaans is?21:51
MaNIthey do now :P21:51
kulelu88:D21:52

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