[00:01] <ahoneybun> this is a broken link :http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20160921/yakkety-desktop-amd64.iso
[00:01] <ahoneybun> well the iso is not there
[00:02] <ahoneybun> i386 images are missing to
[00:02] <ahoneybun> *too
[00:02] <valorie> huh
[00:02] <valorie> the daily was working a week ago
[00:02] <valorie> because I tested it in a VM
[00:02] <ahoneybun> I thought that they respon it
[00:03] <valorie> well, there is the beta now
[00:03] <ahoneybun> but that is what Beta 2 links to
[00:03] <valorie> I haven't been paying attention to the daily since all that 
[00:03] <valorie> uh
[00:03] <valorie> why?
[00:03] <ahoneybun> idk
[00:03] <ahoneybun> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/367/builds
[00:04] <ahoneybun> opps
[00:04] <ahoneybun> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/367/builds/131689/downloads
[00:04] <valorie> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/yakkety/beta-2/ is the correct URL
[00:04] <ahoneybun> well the iso.qa links to that
[00:04] <valorie> for the beta
[00:04]  * valorie needs dinner
[00:04] <valorie> or I'm gonna faint
[00:05] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_discover build #114: STILL FAILING in 1 min 7 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_discover/114/
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[00:07] <ahoneybun> very odd indeed
[00:08] <ahoneybun> mm
[00:08] <ahoneybun> acheronuk: clivejo I know it's a bit early for ZZ yet for the new Discover
[00:09] <clivejo> ??
[00:09] <ahoneybun> we have a few things in kubuntu-settings package that override the look of Discover in it's current state
[00:09] <ahoneybun> but with the new UI those are not needed
[00:10]  * ahoneybun wonders if KDE ever thought of doing patreon
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[00:14] <tsimonq2> EEEEEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[00:21] <tsimonq2> superman to the rescue!
[00:21] <tsimonq2> lol
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[00:51] <valorie> what was the eek! for?
[00:52] <tsimonq2> merge failures left and right /o\
[00:54] <valorie> ah
[00:54] <valorie> I miss a busy group fixing that stuff
[00:54] <tsimonq2> well you have me lol
[00:55]  * valorie supplies the punch and cookies
[00:56] <tsimonq2> valorie: if we ever share a hostel or hotel, I'll be that guy up until 11 PM local time fixing KCI and everybody will be like "Simon, go to bed!" and I'll be like, "NO, I MUST FIX KCI." :P
[00:56] <tsimonq2> s/11 PM/1 AM/
[00:57] <valorie> kudos for that!
[00:57] <valorie> as long as you can get up the next morning
[00:57] <tsimonq2> Coffee is good
[00:57]  * valorie adds balloons
[00:57] <valorie> and streamers
[00:57] <valorie> YY Approaches!
[00:58] <valorie> big banner ^^^
[01:00] <tsimonq2> valorie: https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/72109329.jpg
[01:01] <tsimonq2> lol
[01:01] <valorie> haha
[01:02] <valorie> I'm thinking we'll never have a "kubuntu conf" as such
[01:02] <valorie> but we can sure party like we own it
[01:03] <tsimonq2> yeah :D
[01:03] <valorie> given decent bandwidth, at least
[01:03] <tsimonq2> of course :D
[01:05] <valorie> it's no given
[01:06] <valorie> the wifi at the hostel was better than the connectivity at Akademy
[01:06] <valorie> it was decent if you could get on, but I was only connected less than half the time
[01:06] <valorie> totally horrible
[01:06] <valorie> qtcon otoh was just fine
[01:06] <valorie> damn uni
[01:22] <ahoneybun> what is ktp-call-ui?
[01:22] <ahoneybun> it just got accepted in #ubuntu-release
[01:23] <ahoneybun> mm just getting a black screen on Beta 2 in a VM
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[01:26] <valorie> ahoneybun: sounds like what ktp would use when using it to make a phone call?
[01:26] <valorie> too bad ktp has no maintainer
[01:27] <valorie> :(
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[03:24] <tsimonq2> !info discover
[03:24] <tsimonq2> ??!!??
[03:30] <valorie> that packagename existed in Debian before the new KDE app was named
[03:30] <valorie> therefore it has to be called plasma-discover or KDE-discover
[03:30] <tsimonq2> !info plasma-discover
[03:31] <tsimonq2> ohhhhhhhhhhhh
[03:34] <tsimonq2> so I'm staging Plasma 5.8 in the Ninja PPA
[03:34] <ahoneybun> is there another Qt bump?
[03:34] <tsimonq2> I don't think so
[03:35] <ahoneybun> nice
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[03:35] <ahoneybun> damn man it takes 3:30 hours to render 1:30hr
[03:35] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kcrash build #143: STILL UNSTABLE in 39 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kcrash/143/
[03:35] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kauth build #145: STILL UNSTABLE in 39 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kauth/145/
[03:35] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kidletime build #268: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 11 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kidletime/268/
[03:38] <tsimonq2> wow, this is my first time using KDE Plasma on a fresh install in a LONG time
[03:39] <tsimonq2> I really really like it :)
[03:39] <tsimonq2> I've been using LXQt this whole time :P
[03:39] <valorie> it's sweet
[03:40] <ahoneybun> Plamsa has been awesome since the last update
[03:40] <tsimonq2> man I've been missing out
[03:40] <ahoneybun> since Breeze is fixed now
[03:41] <ahoneybun> have we news of the slideshow?
[03:41] <tsimonq2> nope
[03:41] <ahoneybun> if we decide on the QML idea: http://jucato.logbert.org/blog/using-qt-quick-for-prototyping?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
[03:42] <tsimonq2> I assume that needs to be fixed for Yakkety?
[03:42] <tsimonq2> is it release-critical?
[03:42] <ahoneybun> well it's not a system braker
[03:43] <ahoneybun> but it's rather bad not to have a slideshow
[03:43]  * tsimonq2 gets Planet Ubuntu notifications and goes to read valorie's posts
[03:43] <ahoneybun> the issue is the move from PyQt4 to PyQt5
[03:43] <tsimonq2> s/posts/post/
[03:43] <tsimonq2> yeah
[03:44] <ahoneybun> none of us have written about the issue in a blog or post I think though
[03:45] <valorie> I haven't
[03:45] <valorie> I don't think I have the expertise necessary to write about it
[03:46] <ahoneybun> I think yofell myself and blaze know the most
[03:46] <ahoneybun> about this issue anyway
[03:46] <ahoneybun> but I don't know python that well at all tbh
[03:47] <tsimonq2> if you guys classify this as urgent enough, I'll spend my day tomorrow finishing
[03:47] <ahoneybun> it does have a bug report btw tsimonq2 ;P
[03:47] <tsimonq2> ooh what's the bug number?
[03:47] <ahoneybun> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1615799
[03:48] <ahoneybun> clem from Linux Mint was in here trying to help with it
[03:48] <ahoneybun> but they have not made any changes to their PyQt versions I think so they are not effected YET
[03:49] <ahoneybun> tsimonq2: should I assign you to it unless you beat me to it
[03:49] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: I'm on it
[03:50] <ahoneybun> tsimonq2: blaze's work so far: https://code.launchpad.net/~blaze/+junk/ubiquity
[03:50] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: you now have something to bug me about :P
[03:50]  * tsimonq2 knows
[03:50] <ahoneybun> I'm not going to do that
[04:00] <ahoneybun> wow GitKraken can make the merge request too
[04:01] <tsimonq2> GUI Git clients :/
[04:02] <ahoneybun> yea it's pretty nice
[04:03] <tsimonq2> for a regular user I can see it's purpose
[04:03] <tsimonq2> but CLI for me!
[04:03] <tsimonq2> (although I still like Thunderbird <3)
[04:03] <ahoneybun> I mostly cli too
[04:04] <ahoneybun> I want to use my macro keys for git commands lol
[04:04] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: want to take Plasma 5.8.0 for a test run? :D
[04:05] <tsimonq2> how about you valorie>
[04:05] <ahoneybun> mm I would but I need a machine to edit the KP show lol
[04:05] <valorie> cli for git is more clear for me
[04:05] <valorie> I have a VM I can use
[04:06] <ahoneybun> tsimonq2: valorie http://imgur.com/a/RoRpY
[04:08] <tsimonq2> looks nice
[04:08] <tsimonq2> but not for me
[04:16] <ahoneybun> it's pretty cool with a monitor that's sideways
[04:25] <ahoneybun> mm still odd that kdenlive does not have ogg format for audio only render
[04:25] <ahoneybun> and yes tsimonq2 I filed a bug
[04:25] <ahoneybun> somewher
[04:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[04:25] <tsimonq2> lol
[04:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_discover build #115: FIXED in 25 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_discover/115/
[04:26] <tsimonq2> ey that's pretty good ^
[04:26] <ahoneybun> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365909
[04:26] <ahoneybun> I don't have the newest version but I did not see it in the feature list of the new release anyway
[04:27] <ahoneybun> what version is that tsimonq2
[04:27] <ahoneybun> ?
[04:28] <tsimonq2> huh?
[04:29] <ahoneybun> of Discover
[04:29] <ahoneybun> I'm trying to find a link to it from KCI
[04:30] <tsimonq2> idk
[04:32] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kpty build #271: UNSTABLE in 53 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kpty/271/
[04:32] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kcrash build #267: STILL UNSTABLE in 53 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kcrash/267/
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[04:32] <ahoneybun> I guess finding that is a lost cause then
[04:33] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[04:33] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_dolphin build #473: FIXED in 23 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_dolphin/473/
[04:33] <tsimonq2> ^^^^^^
[04:35] <valorie> oh good
[04:35] <valorie> even one green is a victory
[04:35] <tsimonq2> yep
[04:35] <tsimonq2> I'm merge vanguard :P
[04:36] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kate build #796: STILL FAILING in 16 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kate/796/
[04:37] <tsimonq2> ooh that's my fault :(
[04:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[04:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kate build #797: FIXED in 22 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kate/797/
[04:41] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[04:41] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kdenetwork-filesharing build #208: FIXED in 21 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kdenetwork-filesharing/208/
[04:55] <tsimonq2> valorie: who is an IRC op for this channel?
[04:57] <ahoneybun> all the KC *should be*
[04:57] <ahoneybun> I always forget the commands though
[04:58] <tsimonq2> the !ninjas flag should be updated
[05:01] <tsimonq2> !info qtpositioning5-dev
[05:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[05:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kdepim-runtime build #491: FIXED in 26 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kdepim-runtime/491/
[05:05] <valorie> tsimonq2: you can find out the ops for a channel by doing /msg chanserv access #kubuntu-devel list
[05:05] <valorie> or so
[05:06] <valorie> results in your server tab
[05:07] <tsimonq2> ahh yes, you have op valorie ;)
[05:07] <valorie> yes
[05:07] <valorie> but clive doesn't 
[05:08] <tsimonq2> valorie: please edit the !ninjas trigger
[05:09] <valorie> not sure I know how to do that, but I'll try to figure it out
[05:09] <valorie> tsimonq2: edit it from what to what?
[05:09] <tsimonq2> I think something like !ninjas edit NAMES
[05:10] <valorie> !ninjas edit NAMES
[05:11] <valorie> I'll ask in the ops chan
[05:11] <tsimonq2> edit ninjas?
[05:11] <tsimonq2> !edit ninjas
[05:11] <tsimonq2> :(
[05:12] <tsimonq2> !ninjas
[05:12] <tsimonq2> OH
[05:12] <valorie> oh what?
[05:12] <tsimonq2> valorie: we need to add santa_ and make it more creative :)
[05:12] <valorie> it used to be more fun
[05:12] <tsimonq2> like what? :D
[05:13] <valorie> not sure
[05:13] <tsimonq2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23263398/
[05:13] <tsimonq2> how about that?
[05:13] <valorie> well, people get flagged a bit too often already
[05:14] <tsimonq2> valorie: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/03/07/%23ubuntu-ops.html#t23:21
[05:15] <tsimonq2> valorie: try it, if it doesn't work, then let's stop pinging people ;)
[05:16] <valorie> I don't like your version though
[05:16] <tsimonq2> you have anything in mind?
[05:17] <valorie> thinking
[05:19] <valorie> !forget ninjas
[05:19] <tsimonq2> !hello
[05:19] <tsimonq2> ok good it's here
[05:23] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kdiamond build #598: STILL FAILING in 18 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kdiamond/598/
[05:24] <valorie> I've asked for the changes in #ubuntu-ops
[05:24] <valorie> obv. I don't have enough permissions
[05:25] <tsimonq2> oh
[05:25] <tsimonq2> ok
[06:01] <tsimonq2> OK... WHERE is that bug report where the volume gets turned up to 100%?!?!???
[06:01] <tsimonq2> scared the hell outta me...
[06:17] <acheronuk> yes?
[06:22] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: packaging Plasma 5.8.0 in the Ninja PPA
[06:22]  * tsimonq2 tags acheronuk in :P
[06:22] <tsimonq2> night o/
[06:23] <acheronuk> I saw. I got all the build failure emails!
[06:23]  * tsimonq2 nods
[06:23] <tsimonq2> fun stuff to fix ;)
[06:23] <ejat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23263607/
[06:23] <ejat> anyone can advise me ? 
[06:24] <acheronuk> ejat: what release is that on and with what ppas?
[06:24] <ejat> yakkety 
[06:24] <ejat> yakkety-proposed
[06:26] <acheronuk> ejat: at the moment kde applications in yakkety-proposed are not completely built. so that sort of thing is likely until it all shakes down and we get some problem packages sorted
[06:27] <ejat> so which ppa i should add
[06:28] <tsimonq2> none of them...
[06:28] <tsimonq2> ejat: sometimes using yakkety-proposed is dangerous
[06:28] <ejat> :( .. so i just need  to wait ?
[06:28] <ejat> :( 
[06:28] <ejat> i've installed some of its
[06:28] <acheronuk> ejat: even the devs here don't run with the proposed repo enabled
[06:29] <tsimonq2> ^
[06:29] <ejat> ok thanks for the advice .. 
[06:29] <acheronuk> ejat, well there are some you *could* add
[06:29] <acheronuk> if you must fix your system
[06:31] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: any ideas? https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/10979698
[06:32] <acheronuk> ejat: our 3 staging ppas represent what should eventually build for yakkety, but they are serious testers only who know how to disable and remove the packages if things go south with them
[06:32] <tsimonq2> ejat: and either way, #kubuntu is the best place for this :)
[06:33] <tsimonq2> ok I really need some sleep, if you want to help acheronuk, my linode has what I was in the middle of, it's not hard to pick up where I left off ;)
[06:33] <tsimonq2> o/
[06:33] <acheronuk> ejat: I am running yakkety with those and have a complete package set. but it is not recommended
[06:33] <ejat> acheronuk: its ok .. 
[06:34] <ejat> i willing to test :) 
[06:34] <ejat> which of the 3 stagging ppas
[06:34] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: either a header file missing from a dependency, or missing as it can't find it under the right path
[06:34] <ejat> kde apps ?
[06:34] <ejat> plasme ?
[06:35] <acheronuk> ejat: let me look for a sec
[06:36] <ejat> ok thanks acheronuk
[06:37] <acheronuk> ejat: the apps ppa contains a plasma 5.7.5 build as well, so you could just try that at first. 
[06:38] <acheronuk> PLEASE inspect carefully what the upgrade proposes to do!
[06:39] <acheronuk> a bear in mind that the staging ppa is nether recommended or supported in the slightest. it is out work in progress.
[06:39] <ejat> ok
[06:39] <acheronuk> as the phrase goes, "if it breaks your system, you get to keep both halfs"
[06:41] <acheronuk> I have all 3 staging ppa enabled here, so can't say 100% how adding juts the apps one will go. 
[06:45] <ejat> kdeapp n plasma for the time being
[06:54] <valorie> niters all
[06:57] <ejat> nite valorie
[07:01] <ejat> acheronuk: so far so good .. 
[07:05] <acheronuk> ejat: good :)
[08:13] <acheronuk> santa_: release suggests that this is an ABI break https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kidentitymanagement.git&a=commit&h=72ebfa3b184d31c3cafb0b95a93caf7afadaf7cd
[08:13] <acheronuk> santa_: but seems that it says: 'Private class that helps to provide binary compatibility between releases'
[08:14] <acheronuk> so maybe not?
[08:21] <acheronuk> .
[08:21] <acheronuk> libkeduvocdocument is also meant to be an ABI break
[08:27] <ejat> i should disable the proposed now i think 
[09:23] <acheronuk> debian now have frameworks 5.26 in unstable, so that is another package set to sync with debian packaging when we are able
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[10:55] <mparillo> ahoneybun: Regarding black screen with breeze mouse pointer in YY Beta2 ISO, I added my comments here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/1627348 and marked the bug in this test case: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/367/builds/131689/testcases/1451/results/
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[13:44] <ahoneybun> thanks mparillo
[13:48] <ahoneybun> oh this time I got the panel on
[13:50] <ahoneybun> I'm missing the desktop widget to install
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[14:01] <mparillo> ahoneybun: I wondered if it was some kind of race condition because once, when I was re-booting my host and the physical disk was spinning furiously, I was able to see Plasma and install. 
[14:02] <ahoneybun> well this is just getting into the live session
[14:03] <ahoneybun> I just don't see the widget with the install shortcut
[14:03] <ahoneybun> I found it in kickoff though and I'm installing now
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[14:21] <ahoneybun> mm I had to reboot again and add the panel back for some reason
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[16:29] <BluesKaj> hey folks 
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[17:11] <acheronuk> santa_: you about?
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[19:05] <valorie> huh, yakkety_unstable green, xenial red
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[19:17] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: you do anything on my linode?
[19:17] <acheronuk> not recently
[19:17] <tsimonq2> ok good
[19:18] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: you'll be the only other person with access then
[19:26] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: what are you up to?
[19:30] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: staging plasma 5.8.0
[19:30] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: once it's officially released, I think we can stage it then
[19:32] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: do you think after I'm done bumping all the plasma deps, I should bump all the frameworks deps?
[19:32] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: (from 5.24 to 5.26)
[19:32] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: please don't touch git or staging ppas without OK'ing it with clivejo first
[19:32] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: and when will Plasma 5.7.5, Frameworks 5.26, and Apps 16.04.3 go in staging?
[19:33] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: well of course, but I'm at the very minimum prepping them in a private area
[19:34] <acheronuk> Plasma 5.7.5, Frameworks 5.26, and Apps 16.04.3 are already in staging
[19:34] <tsimonq2> s/staging/backports/
[19:34] <tsimonq2> sorry lol
[19:36] <acheronuk> some of that can probably go in backports-landing, but the qt ABI transition checks etc still need to be gone through and working out what needs copying over from the phone overlay ppa, or rebuilding
[19:36] <tsimonq2> ok
[19:36] <acheronuk> then testing that, before it actually goes in backports
[19:37]  * tsimonq2 nods
[19:37] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: what about bumping the build deps on the plasma packages to Frameworks 5.26? do you object?
[19:39] <acheronuk> well, what you are doing now is not going to get pushed to git, so it's up to you I suppose
[19:39] <tsimonq2> why won't it get pushed to git?!?
[19:39] <tsimonq2> when we just copy it to staging PPAs, shouldn't that go in git?!?
[19:39] <tsimonq2> I'm not doing this for no reason...
[19:40] <acheronuk> because we need to set up other branches, and maybe sync with debian
[19:41] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: at the very minimum, can't the packaging be copied over to a git branch once it goes into the staging PPAs? I'm sure we can set up a script to do that...
[19:41] <tsimonq2> to just commit the differences
[19:42] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: because obviously that would all go in backports, right?
[19:42] <tsimonq2> don't tell me later I'm going to have to start from scratch :(
[19:42] <acheronuk> maybe. have to ask clive on that, as he has been around when switching and creating branches for the next release has been done
[19:43] <tsimonq2> clivejo: ping, I need your answers on a bunch of things
[19:47] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: did you fix those git tags from a little while ago that didn't have the ubuntu/ prefix before?
[19:47] <acheronuk> I can't quite recall exactly what they were on....
[19:48] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: yes I did
[19:48] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: cool :) there is no way to search our git, so was hard to check
[20:10]  * clivejo hold nose at the pongy tsimonq2
[20:10] <tsimonq2> clivejo: I'm staging Plasma 5.8.0 in the ninja PPA
[20:11] <tsimonq2> clivejo: does that go in Git anywhere?
[20:11] <clivejo> staging using what branch?
[20:12] <tsimonq2> I pushed *nothing*, but kubuntu_yakkety_archive
[20:12] <clivejo> did anyone help you with it, ie santa_
[20:12] <tsimonq2> nope
[20:12] <clivejo> he was working on tooling to auto merge unstable
[20:12] <tsimonq2> YAY!
[20:13]  * acheronuk remembers that now. doh.
[20:14] <clivejo> tsimonq2: I would fix up KCI first
[20:14] <clivejo> get all the plasma related packages building and in the green
[20:14] <clivejo> 5.8 has only just hit depot
[20:14]  * tsimonq2 slowly nods
[20:14] <tsimonq2> why?!?
[20:15] <clivejo> why what?
[20:15] <tsimonq2> "< clivejo> tsimonq2: I would fix up KCI first"
[20:16] <clivejo> so that packages build
[20:16] <tsimonq2> why am I so impatient /o\
[20:17] <tsimonq2> clivejo: already in the PPA. already have build errors. already working to fix them.
[20:17] <clivejo> and where you gonna pull the fixes to?
[20:17] <clivejo> push
[20:17] <acheronuk> what are debian doing on 5.8. I *think* we really need to resync packaging with them as soon as we can on ZZ cycle, as things have got more than a tad out of sync!
[20:17] <acheronuk> ^^^ applies to FW and apps as well
[20:17] <clivejo> acheronuk: agreed, but that is hard work
[20:18] <acheronuk> debian has frameworks 5.26 now
[20:18] <acheronuk> clivejo: yes, I know it is. I am prepared to spend some time if required
[20:18] <tsimonq2> clivejo: that's what I wanted to ask you
[20:19] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: I just pinged maxy earlier asking about that
[20:19] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: hmmm. so I see
[20:19] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: maybe I can get a diff of what I'm doing and work with Debian to upstream. In the meantime, getting things in backports would be good
[20:20] <tsimonq2> don't you agree?
[20:20] <tsimonq2> I mean I was impatient and just worked to get it good to go in the ninja PPA
[20:20] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: also need to see how much Neon is doing to sync with debian on 5.8 packaging
[20:20] <tsimonq2> but ideally in the future when I remember and I'm not impatient we should do it ALL upstream
[20:21] <tsimonq2> argh /o\
[20:22] <tsimonq2> failure in the PPA that isn't in KCI :(
[20:22] <clivejo> did you merge unstable?
[20:22] <clivejo> or just yakkety?
[20:23] <tsimonq2> clivejo: I used the staging-upload script
[20:23] <acheronuk> unstable make be a bit ahead of 5.8 now on a few packages, but not that many. I have not fixed much plasma on there recently
[20:23] <clivejo> did you add any options?
[20:24] <tsimonq2> what options specifically?
[20:24] <clivejo> -b unstable
[20:25] <tsimonq2> nope
[20:26] <tsimonq2> clivejo: should I have?
[20:26] <clivejo> well unstable is the closest we have to the actual 5.8 release
[20:26] <acheronuk> well, yakkety_archive is 5.7.5 and bound to fail on a LOT
[20:27] <valorie> don't we download the tarballs from depot?
[20:27] <acheronuk> valorie: yes
[20:27] <tsimonq2> clivejo: should I assess diffs compared to unstable if it fails in KCI?
[20:27] <tsimonq2> correct valorie, I did that
[20:27] <clivejo> the staging script looks on depot for the version you tell it to
[20:28] <clivejo> the tarballs are released earlier for packagers
[20:28] <tsimonq2> which it did
[20:28] <clivejo> and only on depot 
[20:28] <clivejo> before they become available on download.kde.org
[20:29] <acheronuk> for example I think that failure on kwin needs a whole library version bump compared to 5.7.5
[20:29] <tsimonq2> like I said, I'll diff
[20:30] <tsimonq2> clivejo: and for the future, was the ninja PPA the right place to do that?
[20:30] <clivejo> Ive never seen it done there
[20:30] <clivejo> we stage to staging
[20:30] <tsimonq2> ah ok
[20:31] <acheronuk> ie.e on kwin: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kwin/commit/?h=kubuntu_unstable&id=bd2a8621d74efc915c29efb7f5435e7d2666df5a
[20:31] <tsimonq2> so in the future I'll do that ;)
[20:31] <clivejo> but in my opinion you are jumping the gun
[20:31] <acheronuk> which I did for KCI
[20:31] <tsimonq2> clivejo: why is that?
[20:31] <valorie> tsimonq2: 'cause we need to get YY out the door!
[20:32] <clivejo> I dont think it going to have any chance of getting into YY at this stage
[20:32] <tsimonq2> that's not my goa
[20:32] <tsimonq2> *goal
[20:32] <valorie> me either, and we agreed in advance that it couldn't
[20:32] <tsimonq2> my goal is for it to be ready for testing when it gets officially released
[20:33] <acheronuk> we don't even have branches for ZZ yet, and honesty I think it may pay dividends to hold off a short while to see what debian/Neon do with it
[20:33] <clivejo> then fix KCI
[20:33] <clivejo> like rick has done
[20:33] <clivejo> Rik 
[20:34] <acheronuk> plus there are going to be 3 bugfix releases for 5.8 in October alone, so we are going to have to re-stage multiple times no matter what!
[20:34] <tsimonq2> I wish I hadn't been impatient and putten an hour into it :(
[20:34] <clivejo> build from the _unstable branch, upload to your own PPA
[20:34] <tsimonq2> well it's too late for that
[20:35] <valorie> eh, it's just an hour
[20:35] <valorie> we just need to get fixing, syncing or whatever
[20:35] <valorie> YY
[20:35] <acheronuk> valorie: indeed!
[20:36] <acheronuk> valorie: final YY freeze is 6th October
[20:36] <tsimonq2> well I mean I'm almost done
[20:36] <valorie> and it's already sorta frozen
[20:36] <acheronuk> valorie: true
[20:36] <tsimonq2> I *really* don't feel like discarding what I've done
[20:36] <valorie> they seem very friendly and willing to work with us
[20:36] <tsimonq2> so if you're worried that I'm jumping the gun because we have other stuff to do, too late
[20:36] <clivejo> tsimonq2: gonna ask you straight out, are you wanting your name/email on packages or something?
[20:37] <tsimonq2> clivejo: I want Plasma 5.8.0.
[20:37] <tsimonq2> that's what I want
[20:37] <clivejo> what do you mean you want it?
[20:37] <tsimonq2> I want to be able to use and test it and get it in the proper places
[20:37] <tsimonq2> it doesn't matter if it's my name on it
[20:37] <clivejo> go grab Neon packaging and build from that?
[20:38] <tsimonq2> clivejo: so to answer your question, no
[20:38] <clivejo> tsimonq2: yes I was a lot like you a few months ago, but Ubuntu has a release cycle
[20:38] <tsimonq2> but because I'm impatient and didn't ask you all first (:() I just went ahead and did it
[20:38] <tsimonq2> but Kubuntu has a backports PPA
[20:39] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: we need a proper plan for 5.8 really. not done 'ad hoc' 
[20:39] <tsimonq2> clivejo: I don't care about it doing in Yakkety archive
[20:39] <clivejo> but we have a workflow
[20:39] <acheronuk> where to put it. what branches to use. when. how and when to sync packaging
[20:39] <clivejo> you stage for +1 and then backport
[20:39] <tsimonq2> fine, I'll scrap everything if I wasn't supposed to do it yet
[20:40] <clivejo> +1 is now on Freeze
[20:40] <clivejo> so we need to put effort into fixing up YY
[20:42] <acheronuk> yep. for example... santa_ does this look ok for apps? http://paste.ubuntu.com/23267082/
[20:42] <tsimonq2> all scrapped
[20:43] <clivejo> tsimonq2: if you want to help get 5.8 in shape, fix it on KCI
[20:43] <tsimonq2> will do
[20:44] <clivejo> when we come to stage it, should be quick and easy
[20:45] <acheronuk> and in the meantime, debian/Neon will have ironed many of the kinks we may struggle with right now
[20:45] <acheronuk> *ironed out
[20:46] <tsimonq2> should we try to merge from Neon as well?
[20:46] <clivejo> no
[20:46] <clivejo> debian is our upstream
[20:46] <tsimonq2> ok
[20:46] <clivejo> but can cherrypick from Neon
[20:47] <clivejo> sometimes debian and neon do things differently!
[20:49]  * clivejo would like to see KCI building stable branch again
[20:50]  * acheronuk +1
[20:50] <clivejo> I need to sit down and learn how KCI works
[20:50] <clivejo> write some proper notes
[20:52] <tsimonq2> and I really really REALLY think at the VERY minimum that part of KCI needs to be rewritten
[20:53] <clivejo> rewiritten for what?
[20:53] <tsimonq2> in Python
[20:54] <acheronuk> some of the ruby makes sense. some of it is like reading an alien language
[20:55] <tsimonq2> ^^
[20:55] <acheronuk> and usually the latter is the bit you need to undertand!
[20:56] <acheronuk> I don't feel hugly motivated to learn ruby at this point either. if ever
[20:56] <tsimonq2> +1
[20:57] <acheronuk> I need to brush up python and C++ I think. but I digress....
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[22:26] <tsimonq2> now we can actually figure out what's wrong with kde-baseapps
[22:26] <tsimonq2> fixed the patch error
[22:27] <clivejo> how did you fix it?
[22:28] <tsimonq2> clivejo: it just needed a quilt refresh, no manual intervention
[22:29] <tsimonq2> clivejo: then I just fixed incidenceeditor (or whatever the exact name is, I copy/pasted) by removing a patch that was applied upstream already
[22:29] <tsimonq2> clivejo: (it was just backported)
[22:31] <acheronuk> yes, baseapps has just been ported to kf5? I think I saw that, which probably means the ABI manager can be ditched? 
[22:32] <tsimonq2> idk
[22:32] <tsimonq2> someone for the love of god please just update the akonadi symbols :/
[22:33] <clivejo> tsimonq2: great practice for you!
[22:33] <tsimonq2> frick
[22:34] <tsimonq2> frick frick frick
[22:34] <tsimonq2> ok I'll break KCI now :P
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[22:38] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: https://twitter.com/kdeneon/status/778926726831374337
[22:39]  * tsimonq2 follows
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[23:53] <tsimonq2> ^ FUN
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[23:58] <tsimonq2> !info 	libclang-3.9-dev
[23:58] <tsimonq2> !info libclang-dev