[01:54] <wyoung> I am wondering if I can get the ban dropped from #ubuntu
[01:57] <elky> wyoung: what was the ban for?
[01:58] <wyoung> Pissing off an op I believe
[01:58] <wyoung> Abuse of power if you ask me
[01:59] <hggdh> wyoung: when was it?
[01:59] <wyoung> No idea
[01:59] <wyoung> a long time ago probably
[02:00] <elky> your behaviour in recent bans from other channels in our namespace indicates you try your best to be abrasive and insulting, i haven't yet gotten to the ban you're talking about.
[02:01] <elky> and in fact that seems to be the issue in the april ban from the summary in our tracker
[02:02] <wyoung> yeah, I just don't shit from ops, that is my problem.  Perhaps the ops should change their behaviour, be a bit less authoritarian?
[02:03] <wyoung> don't take shit from ops even
[02:03] <elky> You started demanding in the channel that that people must use trademark and copyright symbols every single time they used the windows key.
[02:03] <elky> And started crapping on about lawsuits if people didn't comply
[02:04] <elky> there's no place for that in any of our channels.
[02:04] <wyoung> yeah I will tone down on that
[02:05] <hggdh> wyoung: well, you also need to tone down on you view of the moderators.
[02:05] <elky> Are you sure you're capable of doing that, given the insults you were throwing around in #ubuntu-offtopic more recently?
[02:06] <wyoung> Although IP is important
[02:06] <wyoung> elky: yes
[02:06] <elky> You were also trying to get #ubuntu-offtopic to rise up and rebel against there being rules.
[02:07] <elky> In june.
[02:07] <wyoung> yeah, 4 months ago, I am over that now
[02:07] <wyoung> and i don't believe it was against rules in general
[02:08] <elky> I'm not so sure about that given your first decision here today was to accuse us of abusing power.
[02:08] <wyoung> but that is besides the point
[02:08] <wyoung> elky: you were a bit heavy on the ban button
[02:08] <hggdh> wyoung: it is important for you to understand that the Ubuntu namespace has rules
[02:10] <hggdh> wyoung: do you understand?
[02:10] <wyoung> understood
[02:11] <elky> what exactly are you wanting access to #ubuntu for?
[02:12] <wyoung> To ask a question regarding issues.  Also to provide my assistance to other people that need help.
[02:12] <wyoung> like I have always done.
[02:12] <wyoung> (in addition to being banned)
[02:13] <hggdh> wyoung: I am not sure I understand this last comment ""(in addition to being banned)"
[02:13] <hggdh> care to explain?
[02:15] <wyoung> it was in relation to "like I have always done".  Not in relation to why I want access to ubuntu
[02:15] <hggdh> you mean you were banned like always happens?
[02:15] <wyoung> no
[02:17] <elky> i can see in my logs cases of people admonishing you for being an annoyance rather than helpful and cases where you insulted users by implying they didn't meet the "required intelligence level" and other comments to undermine people's self esteem.
[02:17] <elky> is your "assistance" going to be better than that kind of antic?
[02:17] <wyoung> elky: ah no, I never said or implied a "required intelligence level"
[02:18] <elky> 2016-04-21 02:57:50wyoungKeithWeisshar: no, there is a assumed intelligence level
[02:18] <wyoung> I wish I had those logs
[02:18] <elky> !irclogs
[02:18] <wyoung> any way, moving on
[02:19] <elky> i don't believe there is anything to move on to. I don't feel comfortable letting you back in.
[02:19] <hggdh> neither do I
[02:20] <wyoung> I can't even find that log
[02:20] <wyoung> ah wait, figured it out
[02:20] <wyoung> either way, that example was over 6 months ago, I believe the ban time has been sufficient
[02:21] <elky> We believe otherwise.
[02:21] <hggdh> it is not the ban time that is important, it is your behaviour. I cannot feel like you have changed it
[02:21] <wyoung> how can you tell that over irc
[02:22] <hggdh> wyoung: by the way you express yourself
[02:22] <hggdh> the only possible way on IRC
[02:22] <elky> The attitude you're demonstrating here is exactly the attitude that got you in trouble.
[02:22] <wyoung> my attitude?
[02:22] <wyoung> I have been quite civil
[02:23] <elky> You started out accusing us of abuse of power. That's hardly civility.
[02:23] <hggdh> "I just don´t take shit from ops"
[02:24] <hggdh> well. Real bad feeling from that sentence (not counting the rest, and your history)
[02:24] <wyoung> well yes, I don't
[02:24] <hggdh> OK.
[02:24] <wyoung> hggdh: so just be civil yourself and we won't have a problem :)
[02:24] <hggdh> then we are done here.
[02:24] <hggdh> The ban will not be lifted as of now.
[02:25] <wyoung> I can still contribute and not like you at the same time, they are not mutually exclusive
[02:25] <hggdh> wyoung: please leave this channel; consider returning in 3 months
[02:25] <wyoung> ok
[02:25] <elky> wyoung: investigate askubuntu.com as an alternative
[02:25] <wyoung> until then
[02:26] <wyoung> hggdh: is there a voting process for being an op?
[02:26] <hggdh> @mark wyoung #ubuntu and other channels, still not confident of behaviour
[02:26] <hggdh> wyoung: no
[02:26] <wyoung> thought not
[02:26] <wyoung> good day
[02:27] <elky> This is the part where you leave.
[02:28] <hggdh> @comment 74351 suggested to return in 3 months; as usual, wyoung cannot seem to leave by himself
[02:35] <Unit193> !isitoutyet
[02:35] <Unit193> \o/
[02:35]  * Unit193 downloads.
[04:18] <elky> eh?
[05:11] <valorie> is there a guide somewhere to editing bot triggers?
[05:11] <valorie> I'm trying to fix the !ninjas trigger in #kubuntu-devel
[05:16] <tsimonq2> yay for messing with ubottu /o\
[05:16] <tsimonq2> nevermind that
[05:17] <tsimonq2> 12:16:21 AM <tsimonq2> !no, tsimonq2 is <reply>Testing this function
[05:17] <tsimonq2> 12:16:21 AM <ubottu> Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops.  Thank you for your attention to detail
[05:17] <tsimonq2> PM me if you have any questions
[05:17] <tsimonq2> .wc
[05:19] <valorie> heh
[05:20] <valorie> !forget ninjas
[05:20] <valorie> pff
[05:20] <valorie> fine
[05:21] <valorie> I'd like it to say <reply>Ninjas! clivejo, acheronuk, tsimonq2, santa_ - let's get going!
[05:21] <valorie> or so
[05:23] <valorie> also, Clive Johnston (clivejo) should be added as an op to #kubuntu, #kubuntu-devel and #kubuntu-offtopic as the newest member of the Kubuntu Council
[05:23] <valorie> Myriam (mamarock) is no longer on the council, but she's fine to stay as an op IMO
[05:41] <ahoneybun> also #kubuntu-council
[05:41] <ahoneybun> for clive
[05:41] <Unit193> ahoneybun: Heh, you've got +F there, mate.
[05:42] <ahoneybun> +F ?
[05:42] <Flannel> If you would try just a little harder, you'd get a D-
[05:42] <Unit193> Founder, able to give others +f.  So, you'd identify to services, then   access #kubuntu-council add clivejo kcouncil
[05:43] <Unit193> Hmmm.  I like Flannel's answer better though. >_>
[05:44] <ahoneybun> mm I always forget the commands ...
[05:44] <valorie> oh, thank you ahoneybun
[05:44] <valorie> I forgot that