[15:49] <kulelu88> Hey MaNI do you write Python code ? 
[15:50] <MaNI> very limited - not a huge python fan
[15:54] <kulelu88> hmmm. okay I'll ask in the flask channel
[16:19] <pavlushka> ahoy za!
[16:43] <MaNI> hi
[16:46] <inetpro> hi
[16:54] <pavlushka> hi Maaz inetpro :)
[16:55] <pavlushka> please take a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/23265829/ :)
[16:56] <pavlushka> and http://imgur.com/a/bSAb1
[17:53] <inetpro> pavlushka: please explain your problem
[17:53] <inetpro> oh and hi as well
[17:59] <pavlushka> inetpro: all for this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1629043
[17:59] <pavlushka> need to report a test case on it.
[18:01] <inetpro> pavlushka: I don't get where the browser comes into the play here
[18:01] <pavlushka> lol up there I meant MaNI not Maaz :)
[18:02] <pavlushka> inetpro: when you want to report a bug on any package, you do a "ubuntu-bug package" it opens a browser to report the bug.
[18:02] <inetpro> ok
[18:03] <inetpro> but is that apport's fault?
[18:03] <pavlushka> inetpro: but the apport tool supposed to use the default browser what it does not.
[18:03] <pavlushka> inetpro: I am not sure, in that case it will be a feature request.
[18:04] <inetpro> pavlushka: what OS?
[18:04] <pavlushka> Xubuntu!
[18:06] <inetpro> so with 'xdg-mime query default text/html' you imply that you've set the default browser to firefox?
[18:06] <pavlushka> inetpro: and I also provided a visual proof in http://imgur.com/a/bSAb1 about it.
[18:07] <pavlushka> yes
[18:07] <inetpro> the screenshot doesn't really tell me much
[18:07] <pavlushka> the second one.
[18:08] <inetpro> ahh... didn't notice the extra one
[18:08] <pavlushka> inetpro: and I checked the /etc/apport/ directory, all of it, nowhere any browser settings mentioned. in my Xubuntu 16.04.
[18:09] <inetpro> but that still does not mean that the OS adheres to the Firefox setting
[18:11] <inetpro> in Kubuntu/KDE there is a setting under System Settings | Applications | Default Applications | Web Browser
[18:14] <pavlushka> inetpro: yes
[18:14]  * pavlushka biting his hand
[18:15] <inetpro> haha, why?
[18:15] <inetpro> what do you get for the following?
[18:15] <inetpro> update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[18:15] <pavlushka> inetpro: I set Firefox in preferred applications but it is now switched to opera, I cant tell man, damn.
[18:16] <inetpro> oops... with sudo in front
[18:16] <inetpro> and 
[18:16] <inetpro> sudo update-alternatives --config gnome-www-browser
[18:16] <pavlushka> and?
[18:16] <inetpro> http://askubuntu.com/questions/79305/how-do-i-change-my-default-browser/367820#367820
[18:18] <pavlushka> wow inetpro , you are an alchemist :p
[18:18] <inetpro> haha :-)
[18:18] <inetpro> google is your friend
[18:19] <MaNI> wine periodically hops up to the top of my mime type handlers for everything :/ that annoying moment when you click on an email attachment and it fires up a wineserver with internet explorer in it...
[18:21] <inetpro> pavlushka: the problem really is a GTK vs QT issue
[18:21] <pavlushka> lol @ MaNI 
[18:22] <inetpro> Mozilla chose to use GTK on Linux
[18:22] <pavlushka> inetpro: why opera is set in auto mode and in 0 (top) in priority?
[18:22] <inetpro> pavlushka: I don't understand it all
[18:23] <inetpro> all I can say is, things often get a bit messy when you look at the details
[18:24] <MaNI> there was actually a point where somebody maintained a qt port of firefox and they chose to ignore that as well :p
[18:24] <pavlushka> inetpro: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23266443/
[18:26] <pavlushka> MaNI: wow , where?
[18:26] <inetpro> man update-alternatives
[18:26] <MaNI> you can read a bit about it here https://wiki.mozilla.org/Qt
[18:27] <MaNI> but yeah it died due to lack of support/interest
[18:29] <kulelu88> MaNI: design question concerning an API. When should a POST request be used? 
[18:30] <inetpro> MaNI: I guess in that specific case, Nokia stopped paying their engineers to continue the efforts after Stephen Elop released the "burning platform" memo
[18:30] <MaNI> probably played a role as well :p
[18:32] <MaNI> POST create, PUT create /or/ update - thats my understanding
[18:32] <kulelu88> MaNI: so say I want to "send" something that already exists on the API. Eg. I want to 'send' a random number to a user already in the DB, do I use a GET request?
[18:33] <MaNI> but I don't do webapi stuff a lot, so I'm no authority :p
[18:34] <inetpro> kulelu88: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1211881/why-get-method-is-faster-than-post
[18:34] <inetpro> and see this as well: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26923286/get-vs-post-performance
[18:35] <MaNI> ahh - in the get vs post side of things it's mostly about whether exposing it to the URL is desired or not IMO 
[18:35] <inetpro> oh and http://www.w3schools.com/TAGS/ref_httpmethods.asp
[18:36] <MaNI> i.e. do you want a user to be able to copy that URL, give it to someone else and have it keep all the details, or is doing so a bad thing
[18:42] <kulelu88> POST request it is. 
[18:43] <kulelu88> inetpro: hoegaanit ?
[18:43] <inetpro> good and yourself kulelu88 :-)
[18:43] <kulelu88> good good
[18:44] <inetpro> so how we get more support for oom Kilos guys?
[18:45] <inetpro> seems the donations have come to a bit of a grinding halt
[18:46] <inetpro> or is it just a temporary pause?
[18:46] <kulelu88> I can't think of anything that is simple. Asking for media support is tricky
[18:54] <inetpro> maybe will help if we all use the same unique tag like #FundKilos?
[18:55] <inetpro> I tweeted with #SupportMiles this afternoon but I see others have used that tag already for other purposes
[18:59] <pavlushka> then how about #SupportKilos?
[19:00] <inetpro> that should work as well
[19:03] <inetpro> I'll retweet on @ubuntuza if anyone uses those hashtags and I suggest you also use #gofundme as well
[19:07] <kulelu88> how is Kilos feeling though? heard from him? inetpro 
[19:08] <inetpro> kulelu88: he has been here from time to time
[19:08] <inetpro> 10/01 11:45:45 <Kilos> i am supposed to take it easy and no straining
[19:08] <inetpro> 10/01 11:46:05 <Kilos> but allowed to walk so have walked some ks 
[19:08] <inetpro> 10/01 11:52:00 <Kilos> and i cook some
[19:08] <inetpro> 10/01 11:52:20 <Kilos> eating kangaroo curry now
[19:09] <inetpro> looks like he'll be fine
[19:12] <inetpro> just that hospital bill of his will be very difficult to settle with no income
[19:49] <magespawn> howdy all
[19:51] <inetpro> hi magespawn, how're you doing?
[19:58] <magespawn> hi inetpro, good, and you?
[19:59] <inetpro> good, good thanks
[20:01] <inetpro> magespawn: just trying to figure how we can find more funds to cover the rest of the bills for oom Kilos
[20:01] <inetpro> still $7,979.30 to go
[20:01] <magespawn> more pulicity maybe?
[20:01] <inetpro> see https://twitter.com/ubuntuza/status/782670985032036352
[20:02] <inetpro> I'll retweet any messages with those tags on the @ubuntuza account
[20:03] <magespawn> what is the link to the gofundme page?
[20:04] <inetpro> https://www.gofundme.com/ReunionRoadblock/
[20:04] <inetpro> in the title above
[20:05] <inetpro> an awesome $4,540 raised by 42 people in 10 days already
[20:06] <inetpro> that's quite a lot of rands already
[20:06] <magespawn> is there a specific time limit? before the bill has to be paid?
[20:07] <inetpro>  Update 2 (2 days ago): " The finance lady for the Monash Medical Centre has graciously offered us an extra two weeks to raise the funds. We gave her the link to our GoFundMe page to show her that we are trying to raise the funds, and she allowed us more time to do so."
[20:07] <inetpro> ".. So in total, it's three weeks from his discharge date. Please don't forget to share and re-share with everyone you know, and again thank you so much for helping us with this medical bill."
[20:07] <inetpro> " Warm regards - Tara"
[20:12] <inetpro> thanks magespawn
[20:13] <magespawn> okay so, breathing space then, just did a tweet, that will also go through to my facebook, will g+ it now
[20:13] <magespawn> retweeted already
[20:13] <inetpro> let's see whether we can get that message flowing throughout the coming week
[20:13] <magespawn> too fast
[20:21] <magespawn> man the battery on this netwbook goes flat fast.
[20:23] <inetpro> netwbook?
[20:23] <magespawn> netbook
[20:23] <magespawn> typo
[20:23] <inetpro> magespawn: is that the old Acer?
[20:23] <magespawn> yup
[20:25] <inetpro> reminds me of the one I bought for my wife a few years ago... still going strong after all that time
[20:25] <inetpro> Acer Aspire One... IIRC we paid R2,000 for it
[20:28] <magespawn> the one i was using before that belongs to the company i was supporting had the extended battery
[20:28] <magespawn> this one has the standard
[20:29] <magespawn> yout forgot the 'happ' on tht aspire one 
[20:29] <magespawn> happy too
[20:30] <inetpro> oh right :-)
[20:33] <magespawn> graphically this is one is a bit lacking, so th cli skills are coming along nicely.
[20:46]  * inetpro falling asleep
[20:46] <inetpro> tomorrow is another day... good night
[20:48] <kulelu88> ciao inetpro 
[20:51] <magespawn> that is me too, up early in the morning
[20:52] <magespawn> good night all