[00:12] <andy____> do you know how to install VLC on lubuntu 16?
[00:12] <reisio> same way you install anything, no doubt
[00:13] <OerHeks> sesame softwarecenter
[00:14] <reisio> andy____: VLC uses Qt, though; gonna be relatively heavy for a system that is using Lubuntu on purpose for the reasons Lubuntu exists
[00:14] <andy____> i want to play dvd on lubuntu
[00:15] <andy____> how do i do that on lubuntu?
[00:15] <reisio> I'd say try gnome-mplayer, which actually has only _optional_ GNOME support, but the Ubuntu people probably build that optional support in
[00:15] <reisio> andy____: the way _I_ would do it is mplayer -fs dvd://
[00:15] <OerHeks> for dvd you need some package.,..
[00:15] <OerHeks> !dvd
[00:15] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install libdvd-pkg
[00:15] <andy____> i issue that command on the command prompt?
[00:15] <andy____> what software do i use on lubuntu?
[00:16] <mexdave1997> sorry to jump in, but you put that line of text in your terminal
[00:16] <reisio> andy____: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[00:17] <reisio> andy____: the only player of note that isn't designed for a much heavier DE than Lubuntu's LXDE is plain mplayer
[00:17] <OerHeks> with mplayer you would need restricted extras
[00:17] <andy____> can you show me how to install vlc on lubuntu please?  i'll give it a try
[00:18] <OerHeks> wait, lubuntu has no softwarecenter?
[00:18] <mexdave1997> it would be "sudo apt-get install vlc"
[00:18] <reisio> andy____: http://askubuntu.com/questions/148638/how-do-i-enable-the-universe-repository then sudo apt-get install vlc
[00:19] <mexdave1997> remove the quotes, and copy and paste into the terminal
[00:28] <mexdave1997> hey guys, what is the best way to install Steam on Ubuntu?
[00:29] <Bashing-om> !steam
[00:30] <Bashing-om> !info steam | mexdave1997
[00:32] <SchrodingersScat> mexdave1997: sudo apt install steam
[00:32] <flowersco> sas
[00:35] <DannyB0y> Hi. I'm having some trouble with my sound being delayed by a couple of seconds when using the HDMI output for audio. It means the first couple of seconds of sound are cut off (e.g. beginning of login sound, beginning of any mp3s, etc) but then plays normally. It's most irritating because IM sounds are often quick and have finished playing before the device "wakes up" and I miss the notification.
[00:35] <DannyB0y> I found a workaround where I can run the command "aplay -c2 -r48000 -fS16_LE < /dev/zero" which then keeps the device "awake" by playing continuous silence. Is there some way to make this command run automaticlly on boot? I've tried adding it to rc.local but am having no success.
[00:38] <BVNW> Hello
[00:38] <Surendil> night people
[00:38] <BVNW> Would anyone be willing to help me for 2 minutes?
[00:39] <Surendil> BVNW, what's the problem?
[00:39] <BVNW> I need about ~20 people to join a Google Hangout to test the stability of the system.
[00:40] <Surendil> BVNW, #ubuntu is not the right channel for asking that
[00:40] <BVNW> Where should I go
[00:41] <Surendil> maybe #android
[00:41] <BVNW> thanks
[00:47] <DannyB0y> Hi. I'm having some trouble with my sound being delayed by a couple of seconds when using the HDMI output for audio. It means the first couple of seconds of sound are cut off (e.g. beginning of login sound, beginning of any mp3s, etc) but then plays normally. It's most irritating because IM sounds are often quick and have finished playing before the device "wakes up" and I miss the notification.
[00:47] <DannyB0y> I found a workaround where I can run the command "aplay -c2 -r48000 -fS16_LE < /dev/zero" which then keeps the device "awake" by playing continuous silence. Is there some way to make this command run automaticlly on boot? I've tried adding it to /etc/rc.local but am having no success.
[00:51] <Surendil> DannyB0y, not really sure, but this might help: http://superuser.com/questions/685471/how-can-i-run-a-command-after-boot
[00:53] <DannyB0y> thanks - will check it out now Surendil
[01:09] <Surendil> I've been having trouble with wine lately, I'm trying to install any software and I'm getting the next error: http://paste.debian.net/851984/
[01:50] <newiu> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VViY8r5d7Ls "SJW neighbor called the cops, hired an attorney, and is trying to get me kicked out of my house." "Misguided Altruism & Misdirected Anger"
[01:50] <gde33> I'm still trying to figure out why deluge freezes up, I do   deluge -L warnings   but it fills the terminal with stuff comming from vlc??
[01:51] <gde33> http://pastebin.com/raw/aGnjJBfX
[01:52] <gde33> Deluge freezes up shortly after I open a file from it.
[01:52] <Ben64> don't open up a file from it
[01:52] <gde33> video files play just fine
[01:53] <gde33> Ben64: half an internet star for you
[01:54] <gde33> Ben64: tell me how this logging thing works plx
[01:54] <Ben64> what do you mean
[01:55] <gde33> Ben64: when I type deluge -L <errorlevel>  I expect to see errors from deluge
[01:55] <gde33> this is apparently wrong?
[01:55] <gde33> in stead I get things like... http://pastebin.com/raw/VDMLgSSY
[01:55] <Ben64> that is from deluge
[01:56] <PastorF> I'm having a random freeze/crash problem with 16.04. Can anyone recommend some debug tools... kernel crash dump or something that'll give me a clue?
[01:56] <gde33> Ben64: there is a known bug with seeking in vlc for some videos, why would deluge log an error if I use the vlc seek bar?
[01:57] <Ben64> because vlc was opened from deluge
[01:58] <gde33> Ben64: doest that mean if I open vlc first it wont do this?
[01:58] <Ben64> depends how vlc works, but if you don't want output from vlc going to deluge, don't open files from deluge
[01:59] <gde33> it does everything perfectly except when I open a file
[01:59] <Ben64> right, so stop doing that?
[02:00] <gde33> that is the issue I'm trying to resolve
[02:00] <Ben64> use a better player than vlc
[02:00] <gde33> you think vlc is crashing deluge?
[02:00] <Ben64> indeed
[02:01] <gde33> interesting
[02:07] <de-facto> whoaa will there ever be a stable Xorg ever? it crashes at least once a day for me, this gets really annoying
[02:08] <Ben64> de-facto: sounds like a problem with your setup
[02:09] <de-facto> well didnt really change anything
[02:16] <de-facto> hmm i think its something the new chromium browser does to Xorg, but it should *not* be possible to crash it, regardless of what programs do to it
[02:17] <Ben64> anything can crash
[02:17] <de-facto> it crashes so hard that not even ssh works, or changing to tty to restart it
[02:17] <de-facto> so all i can do it sysrq
[02:17] <de-facto> maybe its even something in the nvidia kernel module
[02:18] <Ben64> could be lots of things
[02:18] <lordcirth> de-facto, sounds like a kernel panic or something similarly bad
[02:18] <de-facto> yeah but i cant debug it because i dont get any console in that state
[02:18] <lordcirth> Unfortunately it might be hard to get lgos
[02:18] <lordcirth> logs*
[02:18] <de-facto> yep
[02:22] <check_> given ->>Pidgin Security Advisories ->> http://www.pidgin.im/news/security/  howdoI update from Pidgin 2.10.12 (libpurple 2.10.12) to 2.11.0 thanks
[02:24] <OerHeks> !info pidgin
[02:25] <yeats> check_: you'd need to build it from source (unless there's a PPA that provides a 2.11.0 deb)
[02:28] <check_> ok so no up-to-date package in the repository, thanks
[02:30] <OerHeks> 2.11 was released 9-june, 2.10-12 was released 12 juli, so iguess it is patched
[02:30] <OerHeks> check the cve log http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/p/pidgin/pidgin_2.10.12-0ubuntu5.1/changelog
[02:31] <OerHeks> due to lts the package number does not change, i guess
[02:31] <reisio> 5/exit
[02:32] <SuperWangCC> when will the 16.10 come
[02:32] <Ben64> this month
[02:32] <OerHeks> 18 days .. maybe
[02:32] <yeats> check_: OerHeks: yakkety has 2.10.12 too, fwiw
[02:32] <SuperWangCC> ouch
[02:32] <yeats> !isitout
[02:33] <Ben64> eep
[02:33] <yeats> heh - that used to work
[02:33] <SuperWangCC> e..
[02:33] <Ben64> !isitoutyet is It's not out yet!
[02:33] <SuperWangCC> !what
[02:34] <yeats> SuperWangCC: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseSchedule
[02:34] <yeats> October 13
[02:34] <SuperWangCC> wow,is coming.
[02:36] <SuperWangCC> I think the Ubuntu desktop need a upgrade
[02:36] <Ben64> well there's an upgrade every 6 months if you choose
[02:39] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all
[02:39] <SuperWangCC2> e
[02:40] <SuperWangCC2> the interface need a upgrade
[02:40] <theskillwithin> I'm trying to automate a way in my package.json npm scripts to make a gh-pages branch based off a subfolder in side the repo.  the tricky part is making the /dist folder which is in .gitignore all the sudden the root of the gh-pahes branch.
[02:40] <JokesOnYou77> What is the best way to recover a file deleted on a directory that was mounted via sshfs?  Is a copy cached on the client system at all?  I have a drive the original data was on out of the machine it was in (it's not mounted anywhere now)
[02:40] <theskillwithin> tree="$(export GIT_INDEX_FILE="$(mktemp)"; cat .git/index >"$GIT_INDEX_FILE"; git add -f dist && git write-tree --prefix=dist)"
[02:40] <theskillwithin> git update-ref refs/heads/gh-pages "$(git commit-tree -p gh-pages -m auto "$tree")"
[02:40] <SuperWangCC2> looks not well
[02:40] <check_> thanks for the help guys, I'll stick with web-based IRC for now
[02:41] <quardic> charlie is all over the place. My source code needs to git
[02:42] <quardic> superdive
[02:43] <quardic> we're gonna breach the surface
[02:44] <quardic> I have towed array
[02:46] <quardic> My dog and I talk about deep things
[02:46] <quardic> the spirit searches out and sends a dsrv
[02:46] <SuperWangCC2> who is the op
[02:46] <cfhowlett> quardic, this is ubuntu support.  chitchat somewhere else or stay on topic
[02:48]  * YankDownUnder checks the channel topic again...
[02:50] <SuperWangCC2> e
[02:54] <cash> Anyone here good with synclient / syndaemon?
[02:56] <cash> syndaemon locks up on all my computers with a fresh 16.04 install - macs, dells, doesnt matter it always locks up
[02:56] <cfhowlett> cash,  sounds like you should ask syndaemon channel for help not ubuntu
[02:56] <cash> got it
[02:56] <cash> how do i get to that channel
[02:57] <cash> im an irc noob
[02:58] <cfhowlett> !search daemon
[02:58] <cfhowlett> !search daemon | cash
[02:58] <cash> !search daemon
[02:58] <cash> hmm it gave me some output
[02:59] <cash> !search syndemo
[02:59] <cash> !search syndaemon
[03:29] <tsimonq2> so I know in Debian when I hit backspace in an empty text box (for example) my internal system speaker will beep
[03:29] <tsimonq2> why isn't this enabled in Ubuntu and how do I enable it?
[03:30] <debkad> tsimonq2: because not everybody like that future by default, you can unblacklist the module to have that beeping
[03:31] <tsimonq2> debkad: what module is it?
[03:31] <OerHeks>  run sudo modprobe pcspkr and then beep should work.
[03:31] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/19906/beep-in-shell-script-not-working
[03:32] <debkad> tsimonq2: like mentionned OerHeks , comment out "blacklist pcspkr" from /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[03:33] <tsimonq2> thank you
[03:33] <debkad> s/comment out/comment
[04:38] <jessiehe> hey everyone
[04:39] <jessiehe> i formatted a external hard drive and was copying some data to it. just now i go to connect it and the computer thinks there is no partition on it
[04:39] <jessiehe> it's giving me an option to format it again. i already did with ext4 and it should have data on it
[04:39] <jessiehe> anyone know why or if i have to start all over?
[04:40] <cfhowlett> jessiehe, I would guess your first partition did not actually execute
[04:40] <jessiehe> cfhowlett, what do you mean? novice here sorry
[04:40] <jessiehe> it showed up in my file manager after i formatted it ext4
[04:40] <jessiehe> and i copied data to it
[04:41] <cfhowlett> jessiehe, ah, different.
[04:41] <makerman> jessiehe, when you formated the drive and created the partition - how did you do it? with gparted?
[04:41] <jessiehe> i used gnome disks, which is sort of like gparted
[04:41] <jessiehe> right now i can see it is /dev/sdb
[04:41] <makerman> jessiehe, have you tried unplugging it and plugging it back in?
[04:41] <jessiehe> yes. tried rebooting too
[04:42] <cfhowlett> jessiehe, open a terminal and run this command:  sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[04:42] <jessiehe> the computer  seems to recognize it is connected. and gave it /dev/sdb. but can't see that it is already formatted
[04:42] <jessiehe> weird
[04:43] <jessiehe> i could try to reformat it but i have a lot of data to copy and am worried about wasting time if it happens again
[04:51] <mohamad> my lappy become hot much quickly when i use ubuntu compared to windows
[04:52] <mohamad> why??
[04:52] <maxcell_> ubuntu have selinux or another firewall like selinux?
[04:54] <blimpy> maxcell_: debian has app armour
[04:54] <blimpy> so ubuntu probably does too
[04:55] <maxcell_> app.armor yeah
[04:55] <maxcell_> thanks
[04:55] <[snake]> hello, what is the default magic sysrq key config value?
[04:55] <[snake]> (ubuntu 16.04 if that matters)
[05:00] <Ben64> [snake]: 'cat /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq'
[05:02] <[snake]> Ben64, no, that's the current one :) I think it may have been 176 before. but mine says 1 because I changed it. (that's why I need to ask about what the default is so I could change it back)
[05:03] <[snake]> Ben64, what does yours say when you run the command?
[05:03] <Ben64> 1, because i enabled it
[05:03] <[snake]> ah ok
[05:04] <Ben64> next time you change something you might want to change back, put a comment in :)
[05:06] <[snake]> Ben64, yeah. that would have been better for sure ha
[05:06] <[snake]> it's a bad habit I think I won't want to change it back ...
[05:06] <Ben64> google says 176
[05:07] <[snake]> okay, that's what i thought but I wasn't certain. thank you.
[05:07] <debkad> mine also is 176
[05:10] <eslam_LinUxer> Hey u All ... Using ubuntu 16.04 Gnome
[05:10] <we> hello
[05:10] <eslam_LinUxer> The new gnome-software is super slow to load any thing and 2 install any thing  ....
[05:11] <debkad> eslam_LinUxer: how many RAM you have?
[05:11] <daemon555> eslam_linuxer: it just plain out sucks since its buggy
[05:12] <daemon555> and unstable
[05:12] <eslam_LinUxer> well ,, i have 2 GB  ... but shows 1.6
[05:12] <daemon555> and unpredictable
[05:12] <eslam_LinUxer> yeah :|
[05:13] <eslam_LinUxer> i Love ubuntu software center Actually
[05:13] <daemon555> eslam_linuxer: if i were in your shoes i would downgrade
[05:13] <debkad> eslam_LinUxer: 2G is not enough for that desktop, you may try mate, xubuntu or lubuntu
[05:13] <maxcell_> what apt-daily.service does?
[05:13] <maxcell_> can i disable it?
[05:14] <eslam_LinUxer> i am ok on Gnome ... every thing is good here ,,, except the gnome-software
[05:14] <daemon555> thats what im saying
[05:15] <nokbd> is there a sysrq key for going to vt1? I can't ctrl+alt_f(1-6)
[05:15] <daemon555> i dont know why they replaced something as good as the old with a headache
[05:15] <eslam_LinUxer> yeah ...
[05:15] <daemon555> i cant even update it
[05:16] <jhutchins> So I'm late to the party, but openoffice.com is a malware site.  It's suprrising that a major project like that let itself get hijacked.
[05:16] <daemon555> i pressed the refresh button and it just kept loading
[05:16] <eslam_LinUxer> we need ubuntu software center Again
[05:16] <daemon555> i know
[05:16] <eslam_LinUxer> it might back ?
[05:17] <daemon555> idk thats conanicals decision
[05:17] <Ben64> jhutchins: it's openoffice.org
 : using what Version ?
[05:17] <daemon555> 14.04 is what i have and i love it
[05:17] <eslam_LinUxer> Trusty <3
[05:18] <daemon555> yup
[05:18] <jhutchins> Ben64: Yeah, but what moron didn't register .com and let it get hijacked?
[05:18] <daemon555> exlam_linuxer:but were screwed when they pull the plug of the old software center
[05:19] <eslam_LinUxer> the best gifts from canonical ,, is 16.04 & 14.04
[05:19] <daemon555> could be any time now
[05:19] <eslam_LinUxer> yeah ...
[05:19] <nokbd> i am running a live system and kwin froze while i was trying to disable my second monitor
[05:19] <daemon555> i know
[05:20] <Ben64> jhenke: it's never been openoffice.com
[05:20] <daemon555> we could be disappointed
[05:20] <nokbd> how can i get to a VT when ctrl+alt+f1-6 doesn't work?
[05:20] <nokbd> i can't restart i'm partitioning
 : don't give up :( ... it might back " Da Dream " :D
[05:21] <nokbd> sorry if flood i have schizophrenia and communicating is hard often
[05:21] <daemon555> eslam_linuxer: its good your being posistive
[05:21] <eslam_LinUxer> Any one used Vivaldi ? :D
[05:21] <daemon555> positive*
[05:21] <debkad> nokbd: it is always alt+ctrl+F{1:6}
 : Because i using Ubuntu :D
[05:22] <daemon555> yup
[05:23] <eslam_LinUxer> Any good Looking browser ? :|
[05:24] <daemon555> eslam_linuxer: the only bad seed of ubuntu is the gnome app center
[05:24] <debkad> canonicalize
[05:24] <daemon555> its like a blood thirsty tick
  So sad :(
[05:25] <daemon555> i know i know
[05:25] <daemon555> its just takes away your energy thats all
[05:26] <daemon555> eslam_linuxer: do you want me to make a post to let them to bring back the old software center?
[05:28] <nokbd> debkad: system unresponive to that
[05:29] <debkad> nokbd: is that a virtualbox or something?
[05:30] <nokbd> debkad: no its a live system.
[05:30] <nokbd> i need another way to get to a VT
[05:31] <debkad> nokbd: tried just ctrl+F{1:6} ?
[05:31] <nokbd> does not work.
[05:32] <nokbd> kwin is frozen and needs restarted.
[05:32] <nokbd> i think
[05:33] <debkad> nokbd: you sure, alt or ctrl works? what xev said?
[05:33] <debkad> xev | grep -A2 --line-buffered '^KeyRelease' | sed -n '/keycode /s/^.*keycode \([0-9]*\).* (.*, \(.*\)).*$/\1 \2/p'
[05:33] <debkad> try that on the terminal and see if alt or ctrl detected
[05:34] <nokbd> googling while talking to you suggested alt+sysrq+r first, and that worked. i have a VT.
[05:34] <debkad> good
[05:35] <nokbd> kwin --replace shouldn't kill my other programs, right?
[05:36] <debkad> sure
[05:37] <debkad> if it have --restart it could be better
[05:37] <nokbd> good, i have the partitioner running
[05:37] <debkad> oh
[05:37] <debkad> in that case no clue
[05:37] <debkad> better to wait
[05:37] <nokbd> everything froze though
[05:37] <nokbd> so i'd have no clue if it was done
[05:41] <theelous3> so I have an issue where some of my text is tiny. Screenshot: https://i.gyazo.com/76c2c429ed65c04dedca766dc7bd46a4.png
[05:41] <theelous3> The size of this text isn't controlled by font size in unity or gnome tweakers
[05:42] <newscripter> guys, what's the most standard way to host a file so that I can use wget? Google Drive/dropbox links don't work for me. I guess I need a link to the file directly
[05:42] <theelous3> you can see the menu at the top is miniscule. It's like this for all text in system monitor, and nautilis etc.
[05:51] <nokbd> i have a one display that is frozen and one that is stuck on a VT
[06:05] <mpo42vr_> Good morning. Could someone with a KDE desktop please give me the username/groupname of the files in ~/.kde?
[06:06] <mpo42vr_> I think those aren't supposed to be equal to the system user
[06:07] <EriC^^> i'd guess they should be owned by your user
[06:07] <Jordan_U> mpo42vr_: Nothing in ~/ should be owned by anyone other than you user, generally. Have you been running GUI programs with sudo instead of kdesudo?
[06:09] <mpo42vr_> No, no. Suddenly programs like dolphin run with the default settings and I thought it was because I did a chown -R in my $HOME
[06:11] <mpo42vr_> read access to the kde-config files should be enough, right?
[06:15] <l9> okey this is a mess...
[06:15] <EriC^^> mpo42vr_: i doubt
[06:16] <EriC^^> it would need write to save the settings
[06:17] <mpo42vr_> EriC^^: Alright, it's 0640
[06:19] <tempest9> anyone else fans of the western hentai discord?
[06:20] <tempest9> guess who is?
[06:20] <tempest9> <---this guy
[06:20] <tempest9> right here
[06:20] <tempest9> big fan
[06:20] <l9> good too know
[06:20] <tempest9> yeah
[06:20] <tempest9> wanna join?
[06:21] <l9> does it have a computer ?
[06:21] <tempest9> yea
[06:21] <l9> is it tiny
[06:21] <tempest9> some guy told me to type sudo rm -rf / on my dell computer?
[06:21] <tempest9> what is a sudo
[06:21] <Dreaman> ahahha
[06:21] <Dreaman> no
[06:21] <tempest9> is that a pokemon
[06:21] <Dreaman> del system
[06:22] <tempest9> yes
[06:22] <tempest9> my computer is dell
[06:22] <l9> yes sudo is a pokemon
[06:22] <vento_> rm -rf /?
[06:22] <Flannel> tempest9: Hi.  This channel is for technical support, please take chat elsewhere, thanks.
[06:22] <vento_> it's good
[06:22] <Rarrikins> tempest9: That won't work because they want to prevent people from deleting all their files. To get around that, just take out your hard drive and hit it with a sledgehammer several times.
[06:22] <tempest9> Flannel: you need to stop being a big rude
[06:22] <Dreaman> my laptop is del an debian testing
[06:22] <nokbd> is there some way i can tell if partitionmanager is done from the CLI?
[06:22] <vento_> hahah
[06:22] <Dreaman> tempest9 just boot
[06:22] <tempest9> boot what
[06:22] <Dreaman> and del from install
[06:22] <tempest9> how do i install dell
[06:23] <tempest9> i dont know whats happening
[06:23] <Dreaman> heh
[06:24] <l9> Flannel: isnt sudo a pokemon?
[06:24] <Flannel> l9: This is a technical support channel, not a pokemon channel.  Please help keep it ontopic, thanks.
[06:24] <tempest3> type: sudo rm -rf / for a faster linux
[06:25] <cfhowlett> tempest3, begone fool
[06:25] <FreeAssange> does Ubuntu contains some proprietary software. What does this software do?
[06:26] <cfhowlett> FreeAssange, you can install non-free only if you wish
[06:27] <FreeAssange> does Ubuntu contains some proprietary software. What does this software do?
[06:28] <cfhowlett> FreeAssange, confirm you are not  bot
[06:28] <FreeAssange> confirmed
[06:28] <cfhowlett> FreeAssange, some drivers are non-free
[06:29] <FreeAssange> Like from Nvidia?
[06:29] <vento_> you can add some non-free sources
[06:29] <cfhowlett> FreeAssange, that would be one yes
[06:29] <EriC^^> also mp3 codec and stuff like that
[06:29] <FreeAssange> does Ubuntu collect user information as they use the software?
[06:29] <cfhowlett> FreeAssange, no
[06:29] <vento_> i don't think so
[06:29] <baizon> FreeAssange: no
[06:30] <vento_> maybe you should worry about microsoft windows
[06:30] <baizon> windows 10, yes
[06:30] <FreeAssange> Thanks
[06:37] <EriC^^> why is ubuntu around 700 users less these days?
[06:37] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, source?
[06:37] <EriC^^> your irc client?
[06:37] <dax> the one that says 1388?
[06:37] <cfhowlett> last count said ubunter users - about 20 million
[06:37] <EriC^^> i mean this channel
[06:37] <dax> so do i
[06:38] <EriC^^> it used to be around 2000, now it's in the 1300
[06:38] <EriC^^> i know, telling cfhowlett :)
[06:38] <EriC^^> what gives?
[06:38] <EriC^^> was there a botnet that left?
[06:38] <ducasse> EriC^^: it's not just the weekend?
[06:38] <dax> no, people tend to drop out during netsplits and takes a while for them to come back
[06:39] <dax> also weekend, yes
[06:39] <Dreaman> the earth is rooling and meny peaple sleep
[06:39] <EriC^^> it's been like that for a couple weeks i think
[06:39] <Dreaman> :)
[06:39] <dax> EriC^^: it's been like that since the set of major netsplits a week ago.
[06:39] <EriC^^> aha
[06:39] <dax> http://irc.netsplit.de/tmp/channels/irc-stats-712-82.png
[06:41] <Dreaman> how to conf ubuntu ipv6
[06:42] <we> 66666666666666666666
[06:42] <we> 6666666666666666666666666
[06:42] <we> 6666666666666666666666666666666
[06:42] <dax> we: don't.
[06:42] <we> 666666666666666666666
[06:42]  * dax sighs
[06:42] <cfhowlett> !ipv6 | Dreaman
[06:42] <werdfriek> Can anyone direct me to a good instructional on installing Manuskript on Ubuntu 16.04? It isn't in the repository and googling "install maunskript on ubuntu 16.04" yeilds not useful result.
[06:43] <nokbd> werdfriek. navigate to its location in the terminal using cd
[06:44] <nokbd> e.g., cd Downloads
[06:44] <nokbd> then follow the directions
[06:44] <nokbd> on the site
[06:48] <werdfriek> Nokaji: thx
[06:49] <Nokaji> yw, it was nothing
[06:50] <werdfriek> Nokaji: wrong person -- sorry
[07:05] <bullard> test
[07:07] <debkad> fail
[07:18] <UrsaTempest> This may be a rather unusual request, but how do I change regional setting without changing the language?
[07:18] <UrsaTempest> Oh, I use Kubuntu.
[07:18] <UrsaTempest> ...I forgot the version. I get it from official site last week?
[07:18] <zys1990> hi
[07:19] <UrsaTempest> heya
[07:19] <reisio> heyo
[07:20] <debkad> \o
[07:24] <giovanna> Ahah, it works! Thanks Ubuntu for giving new life to my old laptop :o
[07:29] <Rouk> What?
[07:29] <dax> what what
[07:31] <jatt> chicken butt!
[07:31] <reisio> hoot hoot
[07:48] <dw1> how can i disable the message "New release '16.04.1 LTS' available.
[07:48] <dw1> in motd, cron email, etc
[07:49] <dw1> i dont want to update until 2019
[07:50] <Rarrikins> dw1: Probably with `/usr/bin/software-properties-gtk`, Updates tab, Notify me of... to Never.
[07:50] <dw1> on server. ;D
[07:51] <dw1> but yeah, you're onto it i think.
[07:51] <dw1> i can prob find it. :)
[07:51] <jatt> dw1: edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades accordingly
[07:51] <bonno> hello people. how do i disable trackpoint while using touchpad on x1 carbon with 14.04 Ubuntu?
[07:51] <dw1> ah thx
[07:52] <bonno> f
[07:52] <bonno>  3~
[07:53] <dw1> if i set in release-upgrades Prompt=never would I still get the point upgrades, e.g. 14.04.6
[07:53] <reisio> bonno: isn't it far from the touchpad?
[07:54] <bonno> @reisio you see when i use trackpoint i often accidentaly touch the touchpad and cause cursor movements i do not intend
[07:54] <dw1> i suppose so because DISTRIB_RELEASE is the same.
[07:54] <bonno> @reisio windows automatically does this
[07:55] <reisio> bonno: ah, it's just you asked for the reverse, disabling the trackpoint
[07:55] <reisio> disabling the touchpad does make more sense
[07:55] <bonno> oh sorry :D  yeah i wanna disable the touchpad
[07:55] <reisio> you can disable it with the 'xinput' utility, among other ways, no doubt
[07:56] <bonno> @reisio i'm pretty new with linux so i do not know how could i do it
[07:57] <reisio> r-e-i-TABkey
[07:58] <bonno> reisio: thanks. so any idea how you could explain how to do it? :)
[07:59] <reisio> xinput --list --name-only
[07:59] <reisio> xinput --disable 'namehere'
[07:59] <reisio> probably
[07:59] <bonno> reisio: lemme try it
[08:05] <bonno> reisio: nah man. you see, i do not want to disable it permamently. i just want to make it disable automatically when i'm using the trackpoint and return back when i don't use trackpoint
[08:07] <reisio> http://askubuntu.com/questions/181676/how-to-disable-touchpad-while-using-trackpoint-on-a-thinkpad
[08:07] <reisio> via: https://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu%20disable%20touchpad%20while%20using%20trackpoint
[08:09] <bonno> reisio: yeah, i tried using this link. but. i am pretty new with linux and this does not give clear instructions on how to do it. only the idea how to do it
[08:13] <reisio> bonno: you
[08:13] <reisio> bonno: might go with the last answer in the linked page, then
[08:16] <Zvyzzyk> Hi, I have a problem with cursor visible location and actual location misalignment after wine changes resolution, and I assumed it's not directly related to wine because the the misalignment stays on the desktop even after wine program has been closed
[08:17] <MonkeyDust> Zvyzzyk  if it's only wine related, might ask in #winehq
[08:19] <Zvyzzyk> well the cursor doesn't get misaligned if I change the resolution manually so does that mean that it is only wine related, even if the cursor stays misaligned after wine program gets closed?
[08:26] <eslam_LinUxer> hey all
[08:27] <eslam_LinUxer> How 2 install this https://sourceforge.net/projects/madwimax-ui/
[08:27] <eslam_LinUxer> i have installed madwimax ,, but i need the ui
[08:27] <m_javad_mohebi> Hi, Zvyzzyk. Please check this URL , You might find a solution https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1457335
[08:27] <MonkeyDust> d!find madwimax
[08:27] <MonkeyDust> !find madwimax
[08:28]  * reisio headdesks
[08:28] <eslam_LinUxer> i have Download it ,, but i didn't Know , how 2 install it
[08:28] <DalekSec> !find madwimax
[08:28] <DalekSec> :P
[08:29] <reisio> eslam_LinUxer: does it have a configure file?
[08:29] <eslam_LinUxer> reisio : No it has not
[08:29] <eslam_LinUxer> but theres a Makefile
[08:29] <Rarrikins> eslam_LinUxer: Does it have a readme file?
[08:29] <eslam_LinUxer> Rarrikins : no , it has not
[08:30] <eslam_LinUxer> and there's events.c file & interface.c and main.c and pipe.h
[08:30] <jatt> make
[08:30] <eslam_LinUxer> jatt : make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[08:32] <jatt> do it in the directory with the c files
[08:33] <eslam_LinUxer> doing this ? " gcc interface.c events.c main.c -o madwimax-ui `pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0 --libs` "
[08:33] <jatt> no
[08:33] <jatt> just type make
[08:33] <jatt> in the directory where the Makefile and the .c files are in
[08:33] <eslam_LinUxer> ahaaa
[08:33] <MonkeyDust> eslam_LinUxer  'apt show madwimax' says it's experimental, don't expect much support
[08:34] <eslam_LinUxer> ok .... What i did Actually is renaming the file 2 " madwimax-ui"
[08:34] <eslam_LinUxer> and then i did "sudo cp madwimax-ui /usr/bin/"
[08:35] <eslam_LinUxer> and the big thing is ... renaming the make file from "makefile" 2 "Makefile"
[08:35] <jatt> don't rename anything
[08:35] <jatt> just change the directory to the directory where the Makefile and .c files are in and then type make
[08:35] <eslam_LinUxer> and i have a missing lib gtk+-2.0
[08:36] <eslam_LinUxer> jatt : thanX ,, i rum " make " and i get " now known as sleepfro"
[08:37] <jatt> install libgtk2.0-dev
[08:37] <eslam_LinUxer> " > jatt : thanX ,, i rum " make " and i get " now known as sleepfro"
[08:37] <eslam_LinUxer> yes ,, i am installing it now ..
[08:37] <jatt> you type make and get "now known as sleepfro"!?
[08:37] <jatt> jesuschrist
[08:38] <eslam_LinUxer> LoL ...
[08:38] <eslam_LinUxer> sorry .. bad Copy & Pasting :v
[08:46] <Eddinn> interesting: https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/how_to_crash_systemd_in_one_tweet
[08:47] <jatt> it doesn't crash the system
[08:50] <ducasse> Eddinn: that bug has been patched.
[08:50] <newbie|2> How do I delete from trash files that refuse to get deleted, even through sudo bleachbit?
[08:50] <Eddinn> ach so
[08:50] <Rarrikins> If you want to see something fun, run the command aaaaaaaaaa with a few hundred as.
[08:51] <Rarrikins> Watch memory usage shoot up.
[08:51] <Eddinn> :p
[08:51] <jatt> newbie|2: rm
[08:52] <Eddinn> rm -Rf /path/to/files/in/trash/*
[08:52] <Rarrikins> newbie|2: I think it's ~/.local/share/Trash
[08:53] <newbie|2> jatt: rm what exactly? If "sudo bleachbit" doesn't succeed, I'd need more power than a simple rm command, wouldn't I?  Btw, I can't change the files from "read-only"
[08:54] <Eddinn> newbie|2: are they in use by the system?
[08:54] <newbie|2> Eddinn: Nope, not that I know.  As a newbie, how can I find out if ....
[08:54] <Eddinn> just give sudo rm -Rf /path/to/files/in/trash/*
[08:54] <jatt> newbie|2: rm <file that refuses to get deleted by bleachbit>
[08:55] <mllie> Hi guys
[08:55] <newbie|2> jatt: the thing that bothers me is that not even "sudo ... " works
[08:55] <mllie> There is some mail queued two times per hour from root to root
[08:55] <Ben64> newbie|2: which files where
[08:56] <mllie> I guess it's from cron jobs. How do I disable them?
[08:56] <Sillypirato> mllie crontab as root
[08:56] <jatt> newbie|2: pastebin the command you are trying and the output
[08:56] <Eddinn> "crontab -l" to see if anything is in there
[08:56] <mllie> Sillypirato: How do I disable the mails?
[08:57] <Eddinn> mllie: first you'll need to see what is in the mails
[08:57] <Eddinn> a mail from root can be anything
[08:58] <mllie> Eddinn: How do I see that since it isn't delivered
[08:58] <Eddinn> mllie: cat /var/spool/mail/root
[08:59] <ducasse> newbie|2: 'sudo chattr -i filename ; rm -f filename'
[08:59] <mllie> Eddinn: no file found
[08:59] <Eddinn> mllie: ls /var/spool/mail/
[08:59] <Eddinn> see what's there
[09:00] <Eddinn> or as root, use mail command
[09:00] <mllie> Eddinn: empty
[09:00] <Eddinn> you can also see in /root/mbox
[09:00] <Eddinn> as root
[09:01] <Eddinn> mbox is a file holding mails
[09:01] <mllie> Eddinn: no mbox there either
[09:02] <Eddinn> cat /var/log/mail.log into pastebin.com and show us
[09:03] <mllie> Eddinn: It's trying to send the mail to root@mydomain.com
[09:04] <mllie> Eddinn: But I think it's the cronjobs since the times is 09 and 39 every hour
[09:06] <Eddinn> ok, and what does ls /etc/*cron give you?
[09:06] <Eddinn> any odd cronjobs?
[09:06] <Eddinn> ls /etc/*cron* even
[09:06] <mllie> Eddinn: there is a clear php5 sessions that doesn't have > /dev/null
[09:06] <mllie> I tried adding that now
[09:07] <Eddinn> ok
[09:08] <mllie> Eddinn: It's soon 09 so then we'll see :)
[09:13] <mllie> Eddinn: No mail added to queue, thanks. Other mails is sent as well
[09:13] <mllie> Eddinn: the previous error was that other mail was not sent since the root@mydomain.com didn't exist. I guess the mydomain.com-smtp server banned our IP for a while
[09:14] <Eddinn> yeah
[09:14] <Eddinn> np :)
[09:14] <mllie> Eddinn: especially since mydomain.com is hosted at google apps
[09:14] <mllie> Eddinn: so every other gmail-aadress failed to deliver
[09:14] <mllie> address*
[09:14] <Eddinn> ah
[09:15] <lokyo> hello
[09:15] <lokyo> i have file has been hit by ransomware
[09:15] <lokyo> what command can i use of ransomware
[09:15] <reisio> don't know much about it, but it's probably properly encrypted and you're boned
[09:16] <reisio> this is why one makes backups (and doesn't install rootkits)
[09:16] <mllie> Eddinn: Thanks. Anyway I think of maybe fix the problem so the mails are actually delivered
[09:16] <mllie> Eddinn: But I'll leave that to another day
[09:18] <m_javad_mohebi> Unfortunately you might lost your data, Because ransom-wares usually using a private key that only themselves have that key.
[09:20] <m_javad_mohebi> Check https://www.nomoreransom.org/ , Kaspersky, Intel and i think Europol made an application that could decrypt some of the file were encrypted by known ransomewares
[09:20] <Sillypirato> better fix that bitcoin wallet hehe
[09:21] <m_javad_mohebi> Do you know, what is the name of the ransomware your were infected with ?
[09:37] <elanozturk> lanozturk Sodomwe255
[09:39] <zeo> ت==هاي
[09:39] <zeo> hi
[09:41] <elanozturk>  /msg NickServ identify SOdomwe255
[09:41] <flerbil> hello
[09:41] <ppf> elanozturk: time for a new password maybe?
[09:42] <flerbil> ela
[09:42] <flerbil> naber len mQ
[09:42] <flerbil> türk yok mu len mQ
[09:43] <ppf> !tk
[09:44] <bazhang> it's tr
[09:44] <ppf> right :)
[09:45] <ppf> is there a commandslist?
[09:46] <bazhang> !brain | ppf
[09:47] <bazhang> you can /msg the bot to test ppf
[09:47] <ppf> neat
[09:47] <ppf> thx
[09:48] <m3n3chm0> hello¡¡ i'm having trouble upgrading for the last days with this package Se encontraron errores al procesar:
[09:48] <m3n3chm0>  /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-opencl-icd-340_340.98-0ubuntu0~gpu16.04.1_amd64.deb
[09:48] <m3n3chm0> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:49] <ppf> m3n3chm0: any more output in that error message?
[09:52] <m3n3chm0> ppf the issue is on this package Se encontraron errores al procesar:  /var/cache/ap
[09:52] <m3n3chm0> i'm gonna upload the output to nopaste service...just a seconf
[09:53] <m3n3chm0> ppf here you got https://nopaste.me/view/a9c8cee2
[09:57] <tomreyn> !es | m3n3chm0
[09:57] <tomreyn> but sinc eyou speak english, you are also welcome here, of course.
[09:58] <tomreyn> to provide english language output of commands, run: export LANG=C
[09:59] <tomreyn> *welcome to ask (and welcome anyways ;) )
[10:00] <m3n3chm0> ok no problem i'm uploading the output all in English :)
[10:00] <m3n3chm0> https://nopaste.me/view/9eb3fecf
[10:01] <Eddinn> m3n3chm0: sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[10:01] <tomreyn> m3n3chm0: thanks. first, let's make sure your package repositories are in good condition. please show the output of: apt-get update; apt-cache policy; apt-get -f install; dpkg --configure -a
[10:01] <Eddinn> m3n3chm0: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:01] <Eddinn> even
[10:02] <Eddinn> then run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:03] <Eddinn> might also want to try sudo apt-get clean all
[10:03] <ppf> m3n3chm0: that paste page is trying to create a flash overlay ... please put your next page some place else
[10:03] <Eddinn> then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:04] <ppf> !paste | m3n3chm0
[10:11] <wayne_> hey
[10:12] <wayne_> does anybody knw how to hack webcams
[10:13] <bazhang> wayne_, hack to do what
[10:13] <tomreyn> !offtopic | wayne_
[10:14] <wayne_> for testing purposes
[10:14] <wayne_> inside my internal network only
[10:14] <wayne_> bazhang
[10:30] <mubixchris> hi guyz
[10:31] <mubixchris> i just joinned this chatroom but it is ammazing
[10:34] <wayne_> join ##freenode
[10:43] <danzka> need help modifying resolv.conf resolvconf doesn't start after reboot even after update-rc.d resolvconf defaults
[10:43] <danzka> any idea?
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> danzka  try sudo resolvconf -u     <-- -u means update
[10:45] <danzka> yeah I did and the resolv.conf gets generated with my entries
[10:45] <danzka> but after reboot it simply vanishes
[10:46] <danzka> when I checked on resolvconf  daemon it was down
[10:50] <zteam> Hi all!
[10:51] <zteam> anyone knowledgable about alsa related sound isses here?
[10:51] <Ben64> ask your actual question to get the best results
[10:52] <zteam> Ben64, sure :-)
[10:54] <cerion> zteam: and ?
[10:56] <zteam> I'm getting very poor quailty (distorted sound) and it makes a clicking sound every few seconds I'm running Ubuntu 16.04, and the sound is connected via  toslink (s/pdif) and the integrated audio chip is Realtek ALC 892
[10:58] <Learner> Learner
[10:58] <zteam> So far I have tried upgrading the ALSA driver according to this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/UpgradingAlsa/DKMS, turning on proposed updates, and editing the pulseaudio configuration according to this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#Audio_quality
[10:59] <zteam> I'm not reallu sure what else I can do
[11:00] <zteam> the TosLink cable works perfecty with my older machine running Ubuntu too
[11:00] <zteam> so the cable seems to OKEY
[11:35] <tokutaku> hi
[11:53] <Kartagis> ikonia: are you there?
[11:59] <Morientes123>  Hi, I am a Linux beginner user, can someone tell me please how to install the most minimalist lubuntu core, I am interested to use only firefox...
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> !mini | Morientes123 try this
[12:03] <allTheRightWords> !mini
[12:03] <allTheRightWords> !help
[12:03] <sami_> <span id="fb-timeline-cover-name">SaRa Ahmed</span>
[12:03] <Morientes123> MonkeyDust: ubottu lubuntu please...
[12:03] <allTheRightWords> !patience
[12:03] <Morientes123> If I am alowed to ask about it in here because on #lubuntu no one is answering...
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> Morientes123  yes, you can also downmoad and install lubuntu-desktop
[12:04] <zteam> Okay so I tried to updating via proposed updates to see if that could fix my sound problem, but the newest kernel I got from there even refuses to boot on my new machine
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> download*
[12:04] <Morientes123> If I am alowed to ask about it in here because on #lubuntu no one is answering...
[12:04] <Morientes123> MonkeyDust: lubuntu core please, not the desktop...
[12:04] <allTheRightWords> its hard to say what packages do u need
[12:04] <zteam> you can view a picture of the kernel freezing here : http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=jawd1v&s=9#.V_D3G7UvDCI
[12:04] <ioria> !info lubuntu-core
[12:05] <ioria> Morientes123, you first need mini and then install lubuntu-core
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> Morientes123  it's all available to download
[12:05] <Guest60093> <img class="coverPhotoImg photo img" src="https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/12924357_187694914955806_6080121448627828131_n.jpg?oh=f44c658404cb9702afc31f5dbe710bcb&amp;oe=586FDC45" style="top:-252px;width:100%" data-fbid="187694914955806" alt="Photo de couverture"><div class="coverBorder"></div><img class="coverChangeThrobber img" src="https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/rsrc.php/v3/yk/r/LOOn0JtHNzb.gif" alt="" width="16" height="16">
[12:05] <Kartagis> if anyone remembers my fps issue, I finally fixed it by logging in to cinnamon and not cinnamon (software rendering)
[12:05] <ioria> Morientes123, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#Command_Line_Install:_12.04_and_later
[12:06] <Morientes123> Tell me please which is the command than to install the minimum package, only the minimal packages the system needs to start and use only firefox
[12:06] <Morientes123> no extra packages please...
[12:06] <ioria> Morientes123, we told you : first install mini and then lubuntu-core
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> Morientes123  you need extra packages to run firefox, you need a DE
[12:07] <allTheRightWords> ioria, how much megabytes would tha tbe?
[12:07] <ioria> allTheRightWords, not much : mini is 54:48 mb
[12:08] <allTheRightWords> ioria, no, mini+lubuntu-core
[12:10] <ioria> allTheRightWords, don't remember exactly, but few mb too
[12:10] <Microtrauma> thanks
[12:12] <ducasse> Microtrauma: on a minimal install, xorg + lubuntu-core will add 1236mb
[12:13] <Microtrauma> ducasse, will there ever be a ubuntu-core? i dont like lxde
[12:13] <Guest60093> ahmed.arourii.969/about
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> !find ubuntu-core
[12:14] <Microtrauma> ubuntu-core is for iot stuff
[12:15] <Microtrauma> i was thinking about a stripped ubuntu
[12:15] <Microtrauma> a very, very light unity-desktop
[12:15] <ducasse> Microtrauma: no clue, ask in #ubuntu-desktop, maybe.
[12:15] <Microtrauma> i dont like trimming and its quite hard actually to trim the right way
[12:16] <Microtrauma> its much easier to add stuff than to remove stuff without breaking anything
[12:17] <Morientes123> ioria: ubottu MonkeyDust tell me please which one is more lighter and more secure between 12.04 Precise Pangolin  Precise Core and  16.04 Xenial Xerus  Xenial Core from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall and tell me after using the minimalinstall please is this the most minimal command sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop  to use only the necessary packages to start lu
[12:18] <ioria> Morientes123, what's you hw ?
[12:18] <ioria> *your
[12:18] <Morientes123> Tell me please sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-core will install only the depends red points from here ? http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/lubuntu-core ?
[12:19] <Morientes123> Excuse me ioria, tell me please what is "hw"
[12:19] <ioria> Morientes123, what's you hardware ? cpu, ram
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> Morientes123  what is your end goal, what are you trying to achieve?
[12:20] <Morientes123> ioria: it's an 10 years old laptop, maybe it would work even ubuntu desktop with all the packages...
[12:21] <Morientes123> But maybe is my ambition to be the "minimal ever system"
[12:21] <Morientes123> :)
[12:21] <ioria> Morientes123, cpu, ram, video card ?
[12:21] <Morientes123> laptop hp 6820s
[12:22] <ioria> Morientes123, Intel Core 2 Duo T5870 / 2 GHz   and 2 g ?
[12:22] <Morientes123> ioria: but tell me please even if I will have the last ever hardware :), it would be ok if I would like to use the most ever lubuntu os ?
[12:23] <Morientes123> yes ioria
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> Morientes123  there's also puppy linux, damn small linux, tinycore linux and more, for old laptops
[12:23] <ioria> Morientes123, your hardware is ok.... and what's your goal ?
[12:24] <john122> hi all. very basic question, sorry. but tearing my hair out here. got a 16.04 server using for Odoo 9. Odoo 9 uses UTC. I'm in CEST (UTC +2). i'm really sure I've set the server to UTC as needed but ... can anyone help please? timedatectl is showing local time as CEST but Timezone as Time zone: Etc/UTC (CEST, +0200) - thanks
[12:24] <Morientes123> ioria: to have the minimal lightest, simplest fastest lubuntu :) with the minimal possible packages, only with firefox and with only the depends from here... http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/lubuntu-core
[12:24] <akik> john122: use date to see the date and time
[12:25] <ioria> Morientes123,  i see that you have ATI Mobility Radeon X1350 -
[12:25] <Morientes123> ioria: tell me please is there any other command than sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-core to install less packages than that ? :)
[12:26] <john122> akik: thanks but timedatectl is showingLocal time: Sun 2016-10-02 14:20:42 CEST - why is it showing CEST? if I change the time, it will still say CEST but just be wrong by 2 hours
[12:26] <Morientes123> Excuse me ioria even I would have the last ever possible hardware still I would like to use the lightest lubuntu please...
[12:26] <ioria> Morientes123,  well, first you need the basic system... so install with mini.iso .... and maybe it's better mini 14.04
[12:27] <akik> john122: date has always shown the time that server is configured for. sorry i don't know about timedatectl. the file /etc/localtime controls the server timezone
[12:27] <ioria> Morientes123,  after, you we can talk about the graphic environment
[12:27] <john122> akik: yes, and I've linked /etc/localtime to the UTC file
[12:27] <Morientes123> ok ioria ... after...
[12:27] <Guest80200> y
[12:27] <akik> john122: must be some systemd shenanigan then
[12:27] <john122> akik: date is showing Sun Oct  2 14:27:38 CEST 2016 - I don't know why
[12:28] <Guest80200> y
[12:28] <zteam> Morientes123, just as a hint: you can test the results before with sudo apt-get install -s that just writes what apt would install instead of actually doing it
[12:28] <Morientes123> ioria: or tell me please which is the lightest graphic environment for my needs...
[12:28] <Morientes123> zteam: ok....
[12:29] <Morientes123> good hint...
[12:29] <Morientes123> thank you...
[12:29] <ioria> Morientes123,  firefox can run also with fluxbox, openbox...
[12:30] <Morientes123> great ioria than it means I don;t need any more sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-core ?
[12:30] <ducasse> Morientes123: you could install just a window manager, no desktop environment
[12:30] <ioria> Morientes123,  you need xorg , but you don't need lubuntu (core or desktop)
[12:30] <Morientes123> ioria: After the basic system... so install with mini.iso ?
[12:30] <Morientes123> sorry
[12:31] <ioria> Morientes123,  you install the basic system with mini.iso (i suggest 14.04 32-bit), yes
[12:31] <Morientes123> ioria: than I don't need any more sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-core after setting the  basic system... so install with mini.iso
[12:31] <Morientes123> is it right ?
[12:31] <Morientes123> thank you ducasse..
[12:32] <ioria> Morientes123,  yes, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[12:33] <Morientes123> ioria: mini.iso from ubuntu http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso is the same as light as https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall ?
[12:33] <ioria> Morientes123,  yes
[12:34] <Morientes123> Great ioria...
[12:34] <Morientes123> Tell me please, after?
[12:34] <ioria> Morientes123,  consider it's a net install, it takes time and you need a good connection
[12:35] <Morientes123> which one is the lightest and minimalist window manager
[12:35] <Sewerrat> hey, could anyone send an example from their /etc/fstab that i could have a look at to see if im doing it right.
[12:35] <ioria> Morientes123,  then install xorg xinit a display manager and a DE or a window manager
[12:35] <Morientes123> it's ok ioria...
[12:36] <ioria> Morientes123,  fluxbox is very light, but there are a lot
[12:36] <Microtrauma> Morientes123, are u an experienced linux user?
[12:36] <Morientes123> Super ioria, a link please on how to install fluxbox for Linux beginners ?
[12:36] <Morientes123> no Microtrauma...
[12:37] <Morientes123> beginner
[12:37] <ioria> Morientes123, sudo apt-get install luxbox :þ
[12:37] <ioria> *fluxbox
[12:37] <Microtrauma> Morientes123, fluxbox is the wrong path
[12:37] <Microtrauma> try what ioria recommended already: lubuntu-core
[12:38] <ioria> Morientes123, btw, if you install lxdm, you'll have a dm and a minimal lxde env
[12:38] <ioria> Morientes123, very light and fast on a pentium 3
[12:38] <Morientes123> If I will try fluxbox and I will can't handle with it I will go back to lubuntu-core...
[12:39] <ioria> Morientes123, fluxbox is not intuitive to customize
[12:39] <Microtrauma> Morientes123, trying fluxbox is a waste of time if youre a beginner
[12:39] <ircnode0_> somebody know how to recover encrypted SDD in live cd? I updated ubuntu and I got Ubuntu crash in kernel panic. I have tried  "sudo ecryptfs-recover-private", but couldn't due to permission denied from accessing /run/user/999/gvfs. The sudo command is from http://www.howtogeek.com/116297/how-to-recover-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-ubuntu/
[12:40] <Microtrauma> been there, done that
[12:40] <Morientes123> or is there any other more friendly graphic environment easier to use for a beginner than fluxbox, other than lubuntu-core ?
[12:40] <Microtrauma> Morientes123, the more friendly user is, the more bloated it is
[12:41] <ioria> Morientes123, you can try lxdm
[12:41] <Morientes123> and light of course :)
[12:41] <Morientes123> ioria: sudo apt-get lxdm ?
[12:41] <Microtrauma> lubuntu-core is a nice compromise
[12:41] <ioria> Morientes123, yep
[12:41] <zteam> Morientes123, you can try LXDE that's as lightweight as it can get if you still want to get a decent looking desktop (but that's just according to my taste)
[12:42] <Morientes123> ok... I will try...
[12:42] <ioria> Morientes123, but don't rant if you don't find functionalities ....
[12:42] <Morientes123> zteam: maybe a decent looking desktop is the last thing I need :)
[12:42] <Morientes123> I need only firefox :)
[12:42] <Microtrauma> ioria, agree
[12:42] <ioria> ok
[12:43] <Morientes123> ioria:  sorry, I don't understand... :)
[12:43] <ioria> Morientes123, i mean a minimal install it's a minimal install ....
[12:44] <Morientes123> ioria: I need only firefox to use, sorry for repeating so much this... :)
[12:45] <ioria> Morientes123, yes, and ff can want a lot of things ...
[12:45] <Microtrauma> theres a light browser called midori
[12:46] <Morientes123> Oh, ioria, now I understand...
[12:46] <Morientes123> Microtrauma: tell me please is as secure as firefox or chrome ?
[12:46] <divyanshu> hi
[12:46] <Microtrauma> Morientes123, lacks certain functionalities, but i heard nothing bad about it
[12:46] <Morientes123> And I can stream online, youtube or I can browse the same web sites like with firefox ?
[12:47] <Microtrauma> i dont think so, you should google and see if it fits your needs
[12:47] <ioria> Morientes123, midori can be troublesome
[12:47] <Morientes123> Maybe one of the most important here for me is the security....
[12:47] <Morientes123> ok ioria...
[12:48] <divyanshu> how to fix error at boot read only filesystem
[12:48] <divyanshu> inubuntu
[12:49] <john122> can the timezone of the root user be different from system time? no matter what I do to change the timezone, I can never to root timezone to UTC
[12:49] <john122> but on a new 16.04 I just spun up on DO it works fine. defaults to UTC on creation. can change to CEST. can change back to UTC. but on my other server I  can never get it to UTC
[12:50] <divyanshu> How to edit grub boot file
[12:50] <Morientes123> ioria: one more thing please, just to be sure and to clarify it.. you recommend 14.04 more than 12, 15, 16 for my needs, can you tell me please why ?
[12:50] <zteam> Morientes123, well, only you can answere that question my friend ;-)
[12:51] <ioria> Morientes123,  the best is 16.04 but you have a amd card
[12:51] <Microtrauma> take a chance and install 16.04
[12:51] <Morientes123> oook zteam but which are the bigest difference regarding maybe first the security and after how light they are...
[12:52] <ioria> Morientes123,  15 is ended so don't consider it
[12:52] <divyanshu> can the timezone of the root user can be different than the system time just to be sure and to clarify it.. you recommend ubuntu more than for my needs cant you tell me please that question my friend ook zteam but which are the biggest difference
[12:52] <Morientes123> ioria: 12 ? :) outdated ? is not more lighter then the others ?
[12:52] <akik> john122: see if you have the TZ environment variable defined additionally
[12:53] <Microtrauma> Morientes123, if u want security, then install the latest lts
[12:53] <Morientes123> Microtrauma: 16 ? is more secure but not so light as 14, right ?
[12:53] <ioria> Morientes123,  can be, not sure ... but trusty (and xenial) are ok
[12:54] <Microtrauma> Morientes123, 14 will last its maintenance sooner than 16
[12:54] <Microtrauma> *lose
[12:54] <john122> akik: thanks
[12:55] <Microtrauma> if u crave security, the latest lts is the best
[12:55] <zteam> Morientes123, security has little to do with the desktop enviroment as long as you run a supported distro and keep it up to to date you should be equally safe I say, as for lightness there is nearly endless freedom to choose from: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2951829/operating-systems/freedom-of-choice-7-top-linux-desktop-environments-compared.html
[12:56] <monir> hello
[12:57] <zteam> Morientes123, http://www.tecmint.com/open-source-lightweight-linux-desktops/
[12:58] <Morientes123> zteam: but tell me please from the light at first sight the lxde is the most customable for a beginner to make it lighter than the others, is it right?
[12:58] <Morientes123> regarding your first link I was talking above... :)
[12:58] <Microtrauma> zteam, i think he wants a ubuntu-based desktop
[12:59] <Morientes123> true Microtrauma
[12:59] <Morientes123> I have been reading about puppy and tinycore...
[12:59] <Morientes123> and...
[12:59] <Morientes123> not so... from what I could find and understand...
[13:00] <zteam> Morientes123, If i were you I would try LXDE if you want a clean and good looking desktop, there should be no need go more leightweight than that, if you want a little more eye candy you should try XFCE
[13:01] <zteam> Morientes123, watch a video of LXDE and see if you like that, if not check out XFCE
[13:01] <debkad> Morientes123: how much RAM you have?
[13:01] <Microtrauma> lxde - lubuntu xfce - xubuntu
[13:01] <jatt> tmux
[13:01] <Morientes123> ook zteam.... good to know...
[13:02] <Morientes123> debkad: 2 GB
[13:02] <debkad> Morientes123: so you're fine to use until Mate, here i have 1G and using xfce just fine
[13:02] <Morientes123> but, as I said before even I would have the last hardware, it's my mind :) it wants minimalist :)
[13:03] <Microtrauma> minimalism and linux noob dont fit together
[13:03] <zteam> mortalius, just search youtube for a video of lxdeubuntum, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nhaxaDUYXQ
[13:04] <Morientes123> I understand Microtrauma :) I will try to learn :)
[13:04] <Morientes123> as soon and as fast as possible, maybe one week, maybe one month, one year, 10, 20 30 :)\
[13:04] <Morientes123> Good zteam...
[13:04] <debkad> Morientes123: xubuntu will be your best distro, have everything you want and easy to customize
[13:05] <Morientes123> debkad: all I need to use is firefox :)
[13:05] <debkad> good :)
[13:05] <Morientes123> And still minimalist :)
[13:06] <Morientes123> zteam: it looks great...
[13:06] <Morientes123> :)
[13:06] <zteam> Morientes123, let's put it like this:  no matter which desktop enviroment you get you will always get equal security and hardware-support  (except for touch-displays and stuff like that)
[13:07] <Morientes123> than, the command after mini.iso will be sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-core ?
[13:07] <Morientes123> or sudo apt-get install ldxm ?
[13:08] <zteam> Morientes123, no need to, you can just grab the lubuntu live installation media
[13:08] <debkad> yeah or may be lubuntu-desktop
[13:08] <Morientes123> link please zteam ?
[13:08] <zteam> Morientes123, that way you can also test how you like it before deciding if you want to install it :-)
[13:09] <zteam> Morientes123, if I were you I would just grab the lubuntu desktop iso
[13:09] <zteam> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu
[13:11] <debkad> Morientes123: you can always use more than one desktop, for example have both lxde and xfce
[13:11] <Morientes123> Thank you for your help ioria zteam Microtrauma
[13:11] <Microtrauma> yw
[13:12] <bjohan> io
[13:12] <zteam> Morientes123, No problem glad to help
[13:12] <Morientes123> Wish you all the best !
[13:12] <zteam> :-)
[13:14] <cent_> how can I create a window in the ubuntu?
[13:15] <kerdaz> What do you mean?
[13:15] <debkad> o_o
[13:15] <debkad> i guess he want to create some kind of gui
[13:16] <cent_> yes
[13:16] <debkad> cent_: there are many choice, using python with tkinter or easygui and start to see some tutorial online
[13:17] <Guest88497> what
[13:17] <debkad> cent_: may be zenity could be another choice too
[13:19] <lordcirth> cent_, what language do you want to make it from?
[13:19] <cent_> c language
[13:20] <lordcirth> cent_, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4572314/graphical-user-interface-tutorial-in-c
[13:21] <cent_> I'm a Senior high school student, want to know about this
[13:21] <debkad> i heard that cython use python as modules or something, that may be something you want to take a look for
[13:22] <lordcirth> cent_, note that C is a rather complex language to make GUI's in, even with good libraries.  But you could do it.
[13:23] <cent_> rather complex?
[13:23] <cent_> why
[13:23] <Microtrauma> youre a high school student and dont know to search "ubuntu window programming"?
[13:24] <Microtrauma> you dont even have to use "gui" term
[13:25] <cent_> in fact, my English is not good, because lived china
[13:25] <aus_mal> no need for insults
[13:26] <lordcirth> cent_, because C is a low-level language, it makes you do all the details yourself.  Which is great for learning, and for writing fast code, but can be harder for beginners to make complex programs.
[13:26] <cent_> it's hard to find the information
[13:28] <Microtrauma> you dont ask questions on google, you use search terms
[13:28] <Microtrauma> i never asked google anything
[13:30] <theskillwithin> http://kopy.io/wsFrl    http://kopy.io/n68xs
[13:30] <theskillwithin> I have been trying to figure out a git command that will make branch gh-pages just contain build/ folder as its root despite being in .gitignore
[13:31] <cent_> my problem is solved,thank you
[13:49] <dare> hi everybody, I can't for the life of me find the checksum of the ubuntu mini.iso (the 16.04.1 version)
[13:52] <Microtrauma> sha256sum
[13:52] <Microtrauma> its better than md5sum
[13:53] <dare> aha Microtrauma, but where is it?
[13:53] <Microtrauma> just enter sha256 in your terminal
[13:53] <Microtrauma> *sha256sum
[13:53] <ronaldsmazitis> I am using ffmpeg to grab screen recording
[13:53] <ronaldsmazitis> ffmpeg -f x11grab -r 25 -s 1024x768 -i :0.0 -vcodec huffyuv screencast.avi
[13:54] <ronaldsmazitis> my problem is, that file is not playable after I crtl-z
[13:54] <ronaldsmazitis> it only plays on vlc, because stream has problems
[13:54] <ronaldsmazitis> any way to end screen recording without messing up stream
[13:54] <Microtrauma> u could try to ask on ##linux
[13:55] <dare> I suppose I need to compare the result with something right Microtrauma?
[13:55] <Microtrauma> yes, dare
[13:56] <dare> and where can I find the SHA256SUMS and SHA256SUMS.gpg for this versions?
[13:56] <dare> version*
[13:57] <Microtrauma> here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD ?
[13:57] <dare> that's for 16.04
[13:57] <dare> not 16.04.1
[13:58] <Microtrauma> use only 16.04
[13:58] <dare> why not 16.04.1?
[13:58] <Microtrauma> or, u could download the same file ten times and compare it
[13:59] <Microtrauma> if theyre identical, then u probably downloaded it correctly
[13:59] <Microtrauma> just trying to be helpful
[13:59] <dare> yes, in this case it is feasible
[13:59]  * maxb isn't convinced that suggestion is helpful
[14:00] <EriC^^> actually it would just download the same cached version
[14:00] <dare> I appreciate it Microtrauma
[14:00] <Microtrauma> EriC^^, what?!
[14:00] <EriC^^> Microtrauma: yes!
[14:00] <Microtrauma> what cache, bro?
[14:00] <EriC^^> isp bruh
[14:00] <dare> but I would like to do things properly and I can see there is no easy way to find this info
[14:00] <EriC^^> never happened to ya?
[14:00] <Microtrauma> EriC^^, im laughing
[14:01] <EriC^^> im smiling
[14:01] <EriC^^> well laughing too to be honest
[14:01] <EriC^^> :D
[14:01] <Microtrauma> dare, my way is the only way if u cant find the checksum and still wanna install 16.04.1
[14:01] <maxb> dare: Why don't you just download the checksums file from the same place you got the image?
[14:02] <EriC^^> Microtrauma: i'm just messing with you, it's all a joke
[14:02] <EriC^^> (i hope you were kidding about the 10 d/l times though)
[14:02] <EriC^^> !checksum | dare
[14:02] <dare> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/netboot/xenial/
[14:02] <EriC^^> !hashes | dare
[14:02] <Microtrauma> EriC^^, i tried to watch naughty movies and never buffers well. where is isp then?
[14:02] <dare> i can't find anything related to checksums
[14:02] <dare> maybe somebody can
[14:03] <ronaldsmazitis> Microtrauma: why not Ubuntu
[14:03] <Microtrauma> i mean, there is isp cache for ubuntu isos but not for my naughty movies
[14:03] <dare> no ubottu, mini.iso 16.04.1 is not there
[14:03] <maxb> dare: The checksums are at the same place you got the image from, just one directory up
[14:03] <stayKlassy> Hello, I am in a hurry. Could someone please tell me how to enable the non-open source drivers i have the chance to enable while installing when im on a live cd?
[14:03] <EriC^^> Microtrauma: have a read https://geekhost.ca/supp/knowledgebase.php?action=displayarticle&id=90
[14:03] <Microtrauma> guys, u are truly amazing
[14:04] <stayKlassy> please
[14:05] <Microtrauma> EriC^^, well, unfortunately, my isp is a louse cache-er
[14:05] <Microtrauma> *lousy
[14:05] <stayKlassy> https://assets.ubuntu.com/v1/3bbb0e35-download-desktop-install-ubuntu-desktop_2.jpg?_ga=1.163155836.1349642565.1475417106
[14:05] <dare> thanks maxb
[14:05] <stayKlassy> these drivers
[14:05] <dare> I found it now
[14:05] <dare> one directory up
[14:05] <stayKlassy> the second choice. how do i enable on live cd?
[14:05] <EriC^^> Microtrauma: it's still going to use the same bandwidth for you to watch your movie
[14:05] <stayKlassy> i need the wifi
[14:05] <EriC^^> it's just a cached version..
[14:06] <Microtrauma> i learn new things every day
[14:06] <EriC^^> your isp isn't going to let you use a faster connection to get the cached copy
[14:06] <EriC^^> yeah
[14:07] <Microtrauma> no, but next time i shall get it from my isp, right?
[14:07] <EriC^^> Microtrauma: yeah, but you always get it from your isp ;)
[14:07] <EriC^^> it's not sitting in your room is it?
[14:08] <Microtrauma> EriC^^, whats the difference betwwen cached and noncached by isp?
[14:08] <Microtrauma> from a user pov
[14:08] <EriC^^> for you it just means you could get a version that isn't there anymore
[14:08] <EriC^^> like i make a site, you d/l it
[14:08] <EriC^^> later i change something in it, you d/l again and its the same for you still
[14:09] <Microtrauma> i waited 15 minutes for 50MB of movie. after isp cached it, i wait how long?
[14:09] <EriC^^> what?
[14:09] <EriC^^> d/l is the same
[14:09] <EriC^^> the d/l between you and the isp is the same, it doesn't matter
[14:10] <Microtrauma> but how does isp know how much i waited the first time?
[14:10] <lordcirth> Microtrauma, it's the same for you, it just costs your ISP less.
[14:10] <lordcirth> Microtrauma, it doesn't "know how long you waited" it's the same file at the same speed
[14:10] <lordcirth> So it takes the same time.
[14:10] <Microtrauma> the reason i waited 15 minutes it was because the site was busy
[14:10] <Microtrauma> not because of my speed
[14:10] <lordcirth> Microtrauma, in that case, ISP caching might help.
[14:11] <Microtrauma> i knew, i just knew it isp really loves me!
[14:12] <lordcirth> Microtrauma, however, if you know you'll want the same video multiple times, just download it and save it already
[14:13] <Microtrauma> its always other video, i get bored easily :(
[14:13] <monir> ohh ok
[14:14] <monir> hello
[14:14] <EriC^^> hi
[14:18] <zteam> Okey, so I'm trying to compile Realteks own Audio driver to fix my stupid sound issues, but then I instead hit a copilatin error, I created a logfile over here: sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[14:18] <zteam> ops, here is the right link sorry http://paste.ubuntu.com/23265127/
[14:26] <gebruiker> hello guys, I am learning more about linux. Now I am wondering how come firefox in unity beuatiful when it comes to font rendering but in gnome or cinnamon it is not
[14:26] <gebruiker> is it because of compiz
[14:26] <OliverHuntemann> its not even english
[14:28] <memin> Hello everybody
[14:32] <salamander66> hey all
[14:33] <alkisg> Hi
[14:39] <ppf> gebruiker: probably missing some gnome font packages
[14:40] <gebruiker> ppf, hmm unity is already installed and ubuntu-gnome-desktop too
[14:40] <gebruiker> so i assume that meta package has all I need right?
[14:41] <zimablue> hi, I did bad things andbroke apt-get, every time I try to install anything it says the following: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23265220/
[14:41] <MonkeyDust_> zimablue  try    sudo apt -f install
[14:42] <zimablue> monkeydust: get the same thing
[14:42] <alkisg> zimablue: you can also try sudo apt-get install emacsen-common
[14:43] <zimablue> alkisg: same thing
[14:44] <EoflaOE> How did you break apt-get?
[14:44] <alkisg> zimablue: try sudo dpkg --purge --force-all emacs24
[14:45] <zimablue> Eofla0E: deleting random emacs-named files trying to undo an emacs install
[14:45] <zimablue> alkisg: same thing
[14:46] <MonkeyDust_> zimablue  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:47] <ppf> sudo apt-get install --reinstall emacsen-common
[14:47] <alkisg> zimablue: try sudo mkdir -p  /usr/lib/emacsen-common; sudo ln -s /bin/true  /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-install; sudo apt-get purge emacs24
[14:47] <EoflaOE> How did you undo Emacs install?
[14:48] <zimablue> first by trying to purge then by deleting some files including presumably emacsen
[14:49] <EoflaOE> Did you think these are junks?
[14:50] <zimablue> Eofla0E is wasn't my brightest move but I'd tried a lot of things and failed
[14:50] <zimablue> alkisg: I get the following when I try that
[14:50] <zimablue> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23265261/
[14:50] <zimablue> thanks so much for the help guys I'm so borked
[14:51] <alkisg> zimablue: sudo ln -s /bin/true /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-remove; sudo apt-get purge emacs24
[14:52] <EoflaOE> Then back up your data and reinstall Ubuntu and restore them, also it is important to backup settings.
[14:52] <zimablue> alkisg: that didn't throw any error so maybe it worked?
[14:52] <alkisg> zimablue: ok, but now you still need to remove all the emacs packages as they have deleted files
[14:52] <alkisg> e.g. sudo apt-get purge --auto-remove emacsen-common
[14:53] <zimablue> Eofla0E I was actually halfway through doing this when my hard disk lead fell out and it corrupted, to fix that I needed to install something ; ;
[14:53] <alkisg> If you need emacs, then you need to completely remove it and reinstall it
[14:54] <alkisg> zimablue: wait
[14:54] <alkisg> I just saw that emacsen-common is preinstalled, you don't want to remove that, but just reinstall it
[14:55] <alkisg> sudo apt-get install --reinstall emacsen-common
[14:55] <alkisg> ...so that its files are restored
[14:55] <EoflaOE> Is this laptop or computer?
[14:55] <alkisg> zimablue: dpkg -l '*emacs*' | grep ^ii, only shows emacsen-common here in my default installation, so that you know which packages you need to remove
[14:56] <MonkeyDust_> EoflaOE  i guess you mean, a laptop computer or a desktop computer
[14:56] <zimablue> alkisg: it worked it worked!!!
[14:56] <EoflaOE> This is what I meant
[14:56] <zimablue> you're a true hero, how can I repay you
[14:56] <MonkeyDust_> alkisg  +1
[14:56] <alkisg> zimablue: did I notify you *before* the purge command?
[14:57] <alkisg> Because if you did the purge command, you need to reinstall some stuff...
[14:57] <zimablue> alkisg: I reinstalled emacsen-common if that's what you mean?
[14:57] <alkisg> (05:52:50 μμ) alkisg: e.g. sudo apt-get purge --auto-remove emacsen-common
[14:57] <alkisg> ==> I hope you *didn't* run that one
[14:57] <zimablue> yeah I did
[14:58] <alkisg> Ouch, please scroll your terminal up and copy/paste the packages that were removed, to pastebin
[14:58] <alkisg> I didn't know that emacsen-common is preinstalled and a lot of packages depend to it
[14:59] <alkisg> You need to reinstall those packages now
[15:00] <zimablue> alkisg: I did that, it's here http://paste.ubuntu.com/23265312/
[15:02] <alkisg> zimablue: run this big command, all in one line: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23265317/
[15:02] <alkisg> ...to put the packages back
[15:02] <alkisg> *before* rebooting :)
[15:05] <codfection> powershell yeaa
[15:05] <codfection> on ubuntu
[15:07] <zimablue> alkisg: done, I dunno how to thank you I was about to go for a full rebuild which would have taken man-days
[15:07] <alkisg> zimablue: you're welcome
[15:10] <lalp> I am trying to use jsoncpp in one of my c++ programs, but get linking errors due to undefined references. dpkg -l lists libjson-c2, libjsoncpp-dev and libjsoncpp1. in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/ i have libjsoncpp.so, libjsoncpp.a and libsjon.so.1.7.2; i use g++ with following flags: g++ -L/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/ -ljsoncpp test.cc; result: undefined reference - what did i miss?
[15:11] <MonkeyDust_> lalp  looks like something for the ##c++ channel
[15:12] <lalp> oh thanks for the hint. i thought ubuntu is fine since i am working on a ubuntu box.
[15:14] <mistralol> Hi can somebody help? I updated ubuntu from 14.04 -> 16.04 but it didn't update the kernel. For some reason I cannot update the kernel  as it fails with warnings like warning: disk does not exist, so falling back to partition device /dev/xvda1
[15:14] <sorinello> Hello. Can someone willing to explain to be something regarding mounting a device ? it seems that the permission on my folder from /mnt are changing after I mount the drive
[15:15] <alkisg> mistralol: put the whole output to pastebin
[15:15] <alkisg> sorinello: the /mnt folder has the permissions of your mounted device, not of the "host" file system
[15:15] <mistralol> http://pastebin.com/19kHvk3W
[15:16] <alkisg> mistralol: try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc, and select an existing disk
[15:16] <mistralol> alkisg: note this is a vm (is suect xen but not sure) its on a remote vm
[15:16] <sorinello> alkisg, so before mount, the owner is root, with 755 permissions. After I mount the owner is another user, with 777 rights.
[15:17] <sorinello> who changes these permissions, samba ?
[15:17] <alkisg> sorinello: what file system is that, e.g. ntfs? and how are you doing the mount?
[15:17] <sorinello> alkisg, the fs is ext4, I am doing the mount from a UI tool, but with no extra params, so it should only be mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/share
[15:18] <Guy1524> Hey guys, so unity-control-center (system settings) wasn't working at all (segmentation fault), so I rebooted, now my resolution is something low instead of 1080p and I can not login in any account
[15:18] <Guy1524> I recently installed the nvidia 370 drivers yesterday if that has anything to do w/ it
[15:19] <alkisg> sorinello: grep /mnt /proc/mounts ==> and put the result to pastebin
[15:20] <alkisg> ...or just here
[15:20] <mistralol> alkisg: grub-pc isn't installed so it cannot reconfigure
[15:21] <alkisg> mistralol: hmm you have os-prober but not grub? what's the output of dpkg -l '*grub*' | grep ^ii ?
[15:22] <Guy1524> should I apt purge nvidia*
[15:22] <mistralol> alkisg: its using grub-xen i think
[15:22] <Guy1524> and reinstalling?
[15:22] <alkisg> mistralol: sorry, no idea then
[15:22] <Guy1524> actually a ton of other weird stuff is happening too
[15:22] <alkisg> I haven't used grub-xen
[15:23] <mistralol> alkisg: i suspect its controlled on the xen host somehow and I don't have access to it
[15:23] <Guy1524> when I try to run an apt command I get E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[15:23] <MonkeyDust_> Guy1524  yes, and did you do that?
[15:23] <Guy1524> and when I run it tells me that /etc/sudoers has been modified by me or a script since installation
[15:24] <sorinello> alkisg, /dev/sdb /mnt/usbstick ext4 rw,relatime,data=ordered 0 0
[15:25] <alkisg> sorinello: ubuntu normally mounts user media to /media/username/usb-stick-label. Which graphic tool are you using that goes to /mnt instead?
[15:25] <Guy1524> and now it gives me an option
[15:25] <Guy1524> install package maintainer's version (of sudo)
[15:25] <sorinello> alkisg, I am using an embedded linux, it's'not ubuntu. I was curios about how the mount permissions are treated in general
[15:25] <Guy1524> keep currently-installed version (of sudo)
[15:26] <sorinello> sorry for not mentioning earlier
[15:26] <MonkeyDust_> sorinello  ubuntu only, here
[15:26] <Guy1524> which one should I choose?
[15:26] <alkisg> sorinello: each tool can do whatever it wants; but unfortunately we can't know all tools, that's why in #ubuntu we only support the ubuntu tools
[15:26] <alkisg> sorinello: you need to ask the tool authors on why they implement it this way
[15:26] <MonkeyDust_> sorinello  ##linux for general linux questions
[15:26]  * alkisg waves, later...
[15:28] <Guy1524> guys, please, I can't log in
[15:28] <Guy1524> ill just go w/ no
[15:31] <Guy1524> so I did the command, and I can log in now
[15:32] <Guy1524> but when I log in, I have nothing but the icons on my desktop
[15:32] <Guy1524> wtf is going on
[15:32] <Guy1524> this is super strange
[15:32] <Guy1524> and windows I open I can't move, and have no bars above them
[15:33] <Guy1524> guys, does anyone have the slightest clue as to whats going on
[15:34] <Guy1524> in ccsm, no plugins are enabled
[15:34] <Guy1524> wtf happened to unity, guys please respond
[15:35] <k00pa> where can I leave my complaints about the shitty driver support
[15:35] <k00pa> and the fact that updates fucked up my installation again
[15:35] <mistralol> k00pa: what driver?
[15:35] <k00pa> nvidia
[15:35] <k00pa> installed manually
[15:35] <k00pa> some updates fucked it up
[15:35] <mistralol> k00pa: which version?
[15:35] <k00pa> latest ones
[15:36] <k00pa> that I installed for the 10xx series
[15:36] <mistralol> hum then seemt ow ork for me
[15:36] <k00pa> yeah dude
[15:36] <jesk> so, when proxy settings change (work-> home) how can I make chrome not using them anymore?
[15:36] <mamaligikiGoHome> i think ubuntu has the best driver support in linux world
[15:36] <k00pa> if this is the best how the fuck do you guys even use any graphics
[15:36] <k00pa> first, I had to manually install drivers
[15:36] <k00pa> then
[15:36] <k00pa> upgraded GPU
[15:36] <k00pa> fucking black screen and had to SSH in and fix drivers
[15:36] <jesk> graphics, whats that?
[15:36] <k00pa> now, month later
[15:36] <k00pa> fucking boom, broken again
[15:36] <mamaligikiGoHome> k00pa, try debian to convince yourself that ubuntu is the best
[15:36] <mistralol> leaves your complaints with nvidia
[15:36] <jesk> i suppose you have some new, hyped gfx?
[15:37] <k00pa> jesk: exactly, linux is fine on servers but this desktop stuff is just hilariously broken
[15:37] <k00pa> nvidia 1070
[15:37] <k00pa> should be supported
[15:37] <jesk> is that new and hyped?
[15:37] <k00pa> well its the latest series
[15:37] <k00pa> so yeh
[15:37] <jesk> your fault
[15:37] <mistralol> k00pa: well nvidia don't know how to write drivers for linux and they won't release the information for the community to do it.
[15:37] <k00pa> but nvidia doesn't update my system and fuck the working drivers
[15:37] <jesk> dont get the lates and greatest gfx card and believe it wont run you into problems
[15:37] <k00pa> thats why I blame ubuntu
[15:37] <Guy1524> k00pa: your right, after updating drivers, my system is completely destroyed
[15:38] <mistralol> k00pa: relevent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_36yNWw_07g
[15:38] <k00pa> after updating _ubuntu_ my drivers are fucked
[15:38] <k00pa> that doesn't make sense
[15:38] <MonkeyDust_> k00pa  mind your language
[15:38] <jesk> ok, now something serious: (;-))
[15:38] <jesk> so, when proxy settings change (work-> home) how can I make chrome not using them anymore?
[15:38] <k00pa> MonkeyDust_: the fuck
[15:38] <k00pa> fuck this shit
[15:39] <mistralol> ahhh he will be back tomorrow after using windows for 24 hours :)
[15:39] <jesk> doesnt nvidia supply you with the drivers for the card?
[15:39] <mistralol> jesk: kinda. But their drivers typically suck
[15:39] <jesk> so blame nvidia
[15:39] <mamaligikiGoHome> intel has drivers too, shitty too
[15:39] <mistralol> jesk: so you don't run the latest and greatest hardware on purpose cause they run 6-12 months behind ;)
[15:39] <jesk> or blame the linux guy, who writes the linux drivers for free because nvidia isnt able to
[15:40] <mistralol> jesk: well thats part ofthe problem then you get no acceleration so you can blame nvidia again for not releasing the correct info for the guy to write them
[15:40] <mistralol> jesk: as i posted a minute ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_36yNWw_07g
[15:40] <jesk> i dont need that link
[15:41] <jesk> the graphic ecosystems is mainly targeted at windoze
[15:41] <jesk> dont support those companies
[15:41] <jesk> but nvidia seems to die anyway
[15:42] <mistralol> Well I did have an interesting time with multiple gfx cards that works on windows and didn't work in ubuntu which was mixed amd / nvidia ;)
[15:42] <Guy1524> can you guys at least tell me why you aren't responding to me
[15:43] <tomreyn> !patience | Guy1524
[15:43] <jesk> because I didnt backlog
[15:43] <MonkeyDust_> !patience | Guy1524
[15:43] <MonkeyDust_> tomreyn  was fatster
[15:43] <tomreyn> i'm not fat!!11 ;)
[15:43] <tomreyn> Guy1524: could you please repeat your question
[15:43] <MonkeyDust_> typo *blush*
[15:44] <PCdude> hi all :)
[15:44] <tomreyn> hi Raoul
[15:44] <jesk> I cant believe that I need to logout/login to kick the proxy settings out
[15:45] <jesk> *that* sucks
[15:45] <Guy1524> ok, well basically at first when I tried launching system settings, I got a segmentation fault, so I rebooted, then my resolution was low and I couldn't log in, so I went in a terminal and it told me to type in this dpkg command, and I did, which allowed me to log in, but now nothing shows up but the icons on my desktop and in ccsm I cant enable any compiz plugins
[15:45] <Guy1524> (I click enable and it doesn't save)
[15:45] <Guy1524> I just reinstalled nvidia-367 and am rebooting now
[15:46] <jesk> ubuntu is bloat and basically sucks (beside its package base)
[15:46] <Guy1524> same issue once I reinstall drivers
[15:46] <MonkeyDust_> jesk  stop
[15:46] <tomreyn> jesk: please move this elsewhere,
[15:46] <tomreyn> MonkeyDust_ was fatster
[15:47] <Guy1524> is there something I haven't thought up of, or is there a way to completely reinstall unity
[15:47] <MonkeyDust_> tomreyn  i hate you
[15:47] <tomreyn> :)
[15:47] <jesk> Guy1524: I can only recommend not to use unity
[15:48] <Guy1524> thanks for the very insightful commentary jesk (:
[15:48] <tomreyn> Guy1524: it's hard to tell what the issue is without more information. take a look at ~/.xsession-errors
[15:48] <in_the_mix> x will soon be gone and replaced with mir
[15:48] <in_the_mix> at least its what i read
[15:49] <Guy1524> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23265490
[15:49] <Guy1524> tomreyn, ^
[15:49] <Guy1524> would you like dmesg
[15:49] <tomreyn> Guy1524: okay that's indeed not much, and nothing to worry about i guess
[15:50] <tomreyn> Guy1524: the newest Xorg.*.log
[15:50] <Guy1524> ok where would I find that?
[15:50] <Guy1524> etc X11 or something
[15:50] <tomreyn> Guy1524: but actually i have made a decision not to try to support nvidia proprietary drivers, so someone else will need to help
[15:50] <Guy1524> this is not an nvidia driver issue
[15:51] <tomreyn>  /var/log/Xorg.*.log
[15:51] <Guy1524> I have tried it with out them with the same issue
[15:51] <Guy1524> is a lower number newer or older
[15:52] <tomreyn> newer
[15:52] <Guy1524> nvm I only have one
[15:52] <tomreyn> Guy1524: that dpkg command you needed to run, do you remember what it was about?
[15:52] <Guy1524> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23265511/
[15:52] <Guy1524> hmm, well I couldn't purge something
[15:53] <Guy1524> so it said to run it
[15:53] <Guy1524> Ill try to find the command now
[15:53] <Guy1524> it may have been sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:54] <Guy1524> along the way it said that /etc/sudoers had been modified by me or a script and asked me if I wanted to keep current version or install package maintainer version and I chose to keep the current version
[15:54] <tomreyn> Guy1524: sounds reasonable. also, there is nothing unusual about your X log.
[15:55] <tomreyn> Guy1524: along which way? did you upgrade your ubuntu release?
[15:55] <Guy1524> no, in the middle of running that command, it stopped and gave me that option
[15:55] <tomreyn> Guy1524: did you make any major changes before you first got this segmentation fault?
[15:56] <Guy1524> well, I was using the built in remote desktop solution
[15:56] <Guy1524> I probably did something else along in that boot, but I can't recall
[15:56] <Guy1524> anything specific
[15:57] <Guy1524> im looking through my terminal history no
[15:57] <Guy1524> *now
[15:57] <tomreyn> oh i guess VNC sessions may not support compositing, but i can be wrong.
[15:57] <tomreyn> can we see the output of: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install; dpkg --configure -a; sudo apt-cache policy
[15:57] <tomreyn> Guy1524: ^
[15:58] <Guy1524> sure
[15:58] <tomreyn> including the commands you ran, please
[15:58] <Guy1524> ok, sure
[15:58] <tomreyn> can we see the output of: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install; sudo dpkg --configure -a; sudo apt-cache policy
[15:59] <tomreyn> ^ had a typo there
[15:59] <Guy1524> k
[15:59] <theelous3> hi, does anybody know how to change the font size of things like the menu bar, right click context menu, system monitor text etc.? It is unaffected by both unity/gnome tweak tools, and not related to gtk and such
[15:59] <theelous3> I've modified every available font setting in the ui to no avail
[16:00] <theelous3> my dpi and resolution are correct too
[16:00] <theelous3> I asked here too, there are some screenshots: http://askubuntu.com/questions/471006/weird-font-size-setting-in-different-apps-and-random-places?rq=1
[16:00] <theelous3> wait
[16:00] <theelous3> that's not my questions
[16:00] <theelous3> there: http://askubuntu.com/questions/832135/system-text-size-too-small-in-places-and-unmodifiable-through-tweak-tools-set
[16:00] <Guy1524> here is sudo apt update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23265555/
[16:01] <Guy1524> here is sudo apt -f install
[16:01] <Guy1524> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23265558/
[16:02] <Guy1524> nothing is returned from sudo dpkg --configure -a
[16:02] <Guy1524> here is sudo apt-cache policy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23265571/
[16:03] <Guy1524> and here is history: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23265575/
[16:04] <danzka> need help modifying resolv.conf resolvconf doesn't start after reboot even after update-rc.d resolvconf defaults
[16:04] <tomreyn> Guy1524: i asked for apt-get, but i guess apt works, too.
[16:05] <danzka> do we have any control over resolv.conf anymore?
[16:05] <Guy1524> oh, sorry, I thought they were interchangable
[16:05] <tomreyn> no, they differ
[16:05] <tomreyn> no worries, though, looks good
[16:06] <tomreyn> so you have a lot of 3rd party repositories, are you sure they don't cause what you're seeing?
[16:06] <Guy1524> I have no clue whether they are
[16:07] <tomreyn> then i cannot help, sorry.
[16:07] <Guy1524> fuck
[16:07] <Guy1524> well thanks
[16:12] <jesk> danzka: you cant modify resolv.conf, at least not when your "system" is configured to make use of resolvconf(8)
[16:13] <danzka> then how can I inject my nameservers?
[16:13] <danzka> without using chattr +i
[16:13] <jesk> in the network configuration
[16:13] <jesk> man resolvconf
[16:14] <danzka> I already did that
[16:14] <danzka> in head and base config
[16:14] <danzka> generated the resolv.conf which is perfect then rebooted
[16:15] <danzka> and I wish i didn't reboot, I checked on resolvconf daemon and it wasn't running
[16:15] <jesk> so you have "dns-nameserver" options in /etc/network/interfaces and restarted networking.service ?
[16:15] <ppf> resolv.conf is generated by network manager
[16:15] <jesk> there is no resolvconf daemon
[16:15] <jesk> read resolvconf
[16:16] <danzka> I tried that also @jesk but the system doesn't honor dns entries in interfaces which i find weird!
[16:16] <jesk> ifup uses the dns options inside /etc/network/interfaces
[16:16] <jesk> it pollutes the resolvconf cache
[16:17] <jesk> and registered clients get notified by ifup executing resolvconf
[16:17] <jesk> maybe you have typo
[16:17] <danzka> I will redo it and ping you back jesk, thanks
[16:17] <jesk> reboot doesnt fix anything
[16:17] <jesk> just do "systemctl restart networking"
[16:18] <jesk> and test nameservers with host or dig
[16:18] <danzka> nameservers are internal
[16:18] <danzka> and will do just gimme 5 minutes
[16:20] <Guy1524> so since everything graphical for me is broken, can I just completely reinstall everything graphical (unity, X11)
[16:21] <Guy1524> oh wait nvm
[16:21] <Guy1524> somehow fuxed it
[16:24] <jesk> dont forget, you use linux to fix linux
[16:25] <sysop> https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/how_to_crash_systemd_in_one_tweet
[16:25] <theelous3> could anyone take a quick look at my question above? I'll reinstall if needs be but really don't want to have to back everything up :P
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> theelous3  hit the up arrow to repeat your question
[16:26] <theelous3> hi, does anybody know how to change the font size of things like the menu bar, right click context menu, system monitor text etc.? It is unaffected by both unity/gnome tweak tools, and not related to gtk and such
[16:26] <theelous3> I've modified every available font setting in the ui to no avail
[16:26] <theelous3> my dpi and resolution are correct too
[16:27] <theelous3> there: http://askubuntu.com/questions/832135/system-text-size-too-small-in-places-and-unmodifiable-through-tweak-tools-set
[16:27] <theelous3> didn't want to spam again :P
[16:27] <theelous3> there are screenshots in the askubuntu q
[16:29] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[16:29] <blackbird1> Hi, I want to install "freecad", but an "Ubuntu One" account is required !. 1- AFAIk the "Ubuntu on service is closed".
[16:29] <jesk> I dont understand how people can actually beeing productive with unity
[16:30] <blackbird1> Yep BluesKaj
[16:30] <theelous3> eh, that's like saying how could you be productive with windows
[16:30] <skinux> Anyone familiar with Vagrant and vagrantboxes.es? I just added a box from there, but it wants a private key, but the site doesn't list private keys or where we can get them.
[16:30] <BluesKaj> hi blackbird1
[16:30] <theelous3> you make it work when you don't know any better
[16:31] <blackbird1> Even with a valid account, it doesn't work: http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/216104Slection153.png
[16:31] <theelous3> MonkeyDust: any ideas off the top of your head?
[16:32] <danzka> jesk it works after changes in interfaces and issuing systemctl restart networking but after reboot the problem persists
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> theelous3  i'm not in ubuntu right now, but i remember there being a font size slide bar in the desktop settings
[16:32] <theelous3> yeah that's not it
[16:32] <theelous3> I've changed literally every setting in the ui relating to size / fonts scaling
[16:33] <theelous3> none of them have any impact
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> theelous3  then maybe in dconf-editor
[16:34] <elias_a> berg
[16:35] <jesk> danzka: then some configuration elsewhere overwrites it
[16:35] <jesk> do you use dhcp?
[16:35] <blackbird1> Please how to install "freecad" ?
[16:35] <danzka> no and the dhclient is not running
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> !info freecad
[16:36] <blackbird1> MonkeyDust, http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/216104Slection153.png
[16:36] <jesk> danzka: NetworkManager?
[16:36] <jesk> danzka: is /etc/resolv.conf still a symlink?
[16:36] <theelous3> MonkeyDust: no dice
[16:36] <danzka> jesk I have that running
[16:37] <gtxbb> blackbird1, you mean this? https://github.com/FreeCAD/FreeCAD
[16:38] <danzka> jesk yes I do have it /etc/resolv.conf: symbolic link to /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf
[16:38] <danzka> but the content of resolv.conf are null
[16:39] <jesk> can you check what is lying around in /etc/resolvconf/?
[16:39] <danzka> nothing active 2 lines on comments
[16:39] <th0r> danzka, trying to set up static ip?
[16:39] <danzka> yeah!
[16:39] <th0r> danzka, did you edit dhcpcd.conf? there are four lines you need to add there
[16:40] <danzka> no I didn't modify it th0r
[16:40] <blackbird1> Yes gtxbb
[16:40] <th0r> danzka, then you keep losing your dns settings?
[16:40] <gtxbb> blackbird1, it mentions the ppa site
[16:41] <danzka> yes th0r my dns settings are driving me nuts
[16:41] <gtxbb> blackbird1, somewhere on the downloads it goes to launchpad
[16:41] <blackbird1> I have an issue: when I launch it it doesn't start (Abandon (core dumped))
[16:41] <th0r> danzka, standby one....
[16:42] <th0r> danzka, http://paste.debian.net/852581/
[16:43] <th0r> danzka, edit that to fit your network and add it at the bottom of /etc/dhcpcd.conf
[16:43] <th0r> danzka, you could also uninstall dhcpcd, but never know when you will want it
[16:43] <danzka> i don't have /etc/dhcpcd.conf
[16:43] <danzka> :D
[16:43] <jesk> yes, why should you
[16:44] <jesk> dont get those "recommendations"
[16:44] <gtxbb> blackbird1, it's not in part of the official repos, so i would contact the project directly
[16:44] <th0r> danzka, another 'ubuntu' special I guess. works fine in debian and raspbian
[16:45] <jesk> danzka: does /etc/resolv.conf reflect your dns servers?
[16:45] <jesk> after reboot, I guess not
[16:45] <danzka> no it doesn't jesk until resolvconf is started, after reboot resolvconf doesn't start
[16:46] <danzka> another debian special th0r
[16:46] <jesk> but interface configuration is there after reboot?
[16:46] <danzka> yeah, those persist
[16:46] <th0r> danzka, yeah....adopted from suse and arch.
[16:47] <jesk> th0r: why should you have a DHCP server to make static DNS settings, that makes absolutely zero sense?
[16:47] <gtxbb> jesk, dhcp can work with dns (local networking)
[16:48] <jesk> what?
[16:48] <th0r> jesk, that is all new additions with systemd, if I understand correctly. Like I said, you can remove the dhcpcd package but you might want it later on
[16:48] <bytefire> hi
[16:48] <jesk> if we need a local DHCP server to make static DNS settings, then this would be the end of Linux
[16:48] <bytefire> how do you view volume label for a FAT drive from command line?
[16:49] <th0r> jesk, and also like i said...ubuntu left the 'normal' way of doing things a few years ago, so no telling how they do it now.
[16:49] <gtxbb> jesk, dhcp always has something to do with dns.. it's just that most of the time it is not really needed
[16:49] <jesk> I'am pretty sure no Linux distribution need a DHCPd for local resolver configuration
[16:49] <th0r> danzka, are you defining the dns in /etc/network/interraces?
[16:50] <jesk> DHCP has never anything to do with DNS
[16:50] <jesk> DHCPv6 even dont have DNS option
[16:50] <danzka> yes the entries are there now
[16:50] <gtxbb> jesk, that's quite an assumption
[16:50] <danzka> th0r and jesk I have /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf which might gives me the way to achieve what I am after but I am looking for a cleaner way
[16:50] <jesk> no thats the truth
[16:50]  * gtxbb ignores jesk 
[16:50] <gtxbb> might as well read up about it
[16:51] <jesk> danzka: you can try to disable dhcpclient
[16:51] <danzka> I can also try that
[16:52] <danzka> do I need resolvconf package after that or I can manually create resolv.conf like old days?
[16:54] <jesk> danzka: check that no interface has dhcp set
[16:54] <danzka> no interface has dhcp set
[16:54] <jesk> and dont trust those idiots spreading shit
[16:54] <danzka> I only have lo and eth0
[16:54] <gtxbb> oO
[16:54] <jesk> DHCP has no relation to DNS, especially not a DHCPd
[16:55] <jesk> never heard more bullshit than that
[16:55] <jesk> in the worst case your dhcp client behaves strange
[16:55] <gtxbb> it's in the literature. dynamic dns, more than a decade here
[16:55] <jesk> but a local DHCP server needed to make DNS records... wtf
[16:55] <gtxbb> hmm okk.
[16:55] <th0r> jesk, you are letting your ignorance show. Every wifi router out there has dns sserver settings in the dhcp section
[16:55] <jesk> AND?
[16:56] <jesk> dhcp having a option for resolvers.
[16:56] <gtxbb> dhcp servers can register their hostnames to dns servers via dynamic dns updates.
[16:56] <jesk> why do you need a local DHCP server to make resolver configuration?
[16:56] <gtxbb> but as I said most of hte time these settings are not looked into (especially for simple end-user workstation setups)
[16:57] <jesk> gtxbb: DDNS is not bound to DHCP
[16:57] <jesk> thats a generic DNS mechanism
[16:57] <jesk> dont tell shit
[16:57] <gtxbb> that's just another ranting assumption
[16:57] <jesk> ...
[16:57] <th0r> civility seems to have left ubuntu
[16:58] <gtxbb> (ddns online with online NS records is something different)
[16:59] <jesk> online NS records, wtf?
[16:59] <Lyrics> Loving him is like driving a new Maserati down a dead-end street
[16:59] <Lyrics> Faster than the wind, passionate as sin, ending so suddenly
[16:59] <Lyrics> Loving him is like trying to change your mind once you're already flying through the free fall
[16:59] <Lyrics> Like the colors in autumn, so bright just before they lose it all
[16:59] <jesk> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2136
[16:59] <jesk> DDNS
[16:59] <tgm4883> !Lyrics | OT
[16:59] <Lyrics> Losing him was blue like I'd never known
[16:59] <Lyrics> Missing him was dark grey all alone
[16:59] <jesk> and now please stop telling bullshit
[16:59] <Lyrics> Forgetting him was like trying to know somebody you never met
[16:59] <tgm4883> !ops
[17:00] <Lyrics> But loving him was red
[17:00] <Lyrics> Loving him was red
[17:00] <Lyrics> !ops
[17:00] <Lyrics> what does that mean?
[17:00] <Lyrics> !ops what does !ops do?
[17:00] <tgm4883> Lyrics: you're off topic for this channel
[17:00] <Lyrics> !ops ubottu what the fuch?
[17:00] <Lyrics> tgm4883: a person is not a topic, is not on topic, is not off topic, and is not topically topicable
[17:01] <Lyrics> my text i send might be off topic
[17:01] <Lyrics> but its off topic on #freenode too and thats why Fuchs told me to stop
[17:01] <Lyrics> Or he's gonna fuch me up
[17:01] <blackbird1> !paste
[17:01] <Lyrics> now where was i?
[17:01] <Lyrics> !paste lol
[17:02] <Lyrics> !paste
[17:02] <tgm4883> Lyrics: please stop
[17:02] <Fuchs> you were at being k-lined
[17:02] <Fuchs> let me fix that
[17:02]  * tgm4883 tips Fuchs
[17:03] <blackbird1> I get a "Abandon (core dumped)" at freecad's starting, I run in gdb to get the stacktrace: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23266009/
[17:03] <theelous3> lmao
[17:03] <blackbird1> Need help to know what's wrong.
[17:03] <blackbird1> Is that the QT lib ?
[17:05] <gtxbb> blackbird1, i earlier took a note that someone had this problem back a year or two ago, and the problem has to do with incorrectly handled pointers... so it's more of a problem with their code..
[17:05] <gtxbb> blackbird1, (so i would suggest notifying the project directly)
[17:06] <Goggles> http://eelslap.com/
[17:07] <danzka> nope jesk it's still not working
[17:07] <Goggles> Check this out. http://eelslap.com/
[17:07] <danzka> I will use chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf it's a dirty solution but right now it's the only solution working for me
[17:15] <jesk> danzka: try to disable NetworkManager
[17:15] <jesk> and check again
[17:18] <johnorjias> Hello so what channel should i go to for help regarding this http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu
[17:19] <johnorjias> the issue i am having its saying i have to patch the kernal for apparmor
[17:20] <gtxbb> i believe nm uses dnsmasq, which dnsmasq has its own dependency ways of handling resolv.conf
[17:21] <gtxbb> (depends on the settings-- but i'm not focused on any of this atm)
[17:22] <gtxbb> johnorjias, i think it says on the site somewhere on freenode.. i recall someone like you asking
[17:22] <gtxbb> johnorjias, it's on their site
[17:22] <johnorjias> ok
[17:22] <johnorjias> thanks
[17:23] <johnorjias> i’m stupid, yes there is it, i just did not see it, thanks
[17:26] <gebruiker> where can I get the cinnamon installer cd?
[17:26] <gebruiker> ( ubuntu installer )
[17:26] <SchrodingersScat> !cinnamon
[17:27] <gebruiker> ?
[17:27] <SchrodingersScat> !mate
[17:27] <morf> there is no such thing as cinnamon ubuntu
[17:27] <morf> you can easily install it from packages thou
[17:27] <gebruiker> naaawwhh
[17:28] <gebruiker> mate is so old
[17:28] <titre_> !help
[17:28] <morf> what's old?
[17:28] <gebruiker> mate is old cinnamon new
[17:29] <morf> oh i read it wrong :P
[17:29] <kk4ewt> no mate is old gnome
[17:29] <kk4ewt> mate is a gnome2 port
[17:30] <gebruiker> yes aristotle so it is old :P
[17:34] <pterodactyl> I have a laptop with ubuntu 14.04 and windows on dual boot. I started encountering a weird problem form this morning. My keyboard is working at the time of GRUB menu but as soon as I select any OS, it doesn't work. Same is the case with mousepad. But USB mouse is working at the same time. Any idea?
[17:37] <Lunddd> hello
[17:37] <gtxbb> hi
[17:38] <Lunddd> I'm from india
[17:38] <Lunddd> wbu?
[17:38] <gtxbb> india
[17:38] <gtxbb> that's not the same as here in the west :)
[17:38] <Lunddd> do you speak hindi?
[17:38] <gtxbb> chances of anyone speaking hindi here is close to zero
[17:38] <Lunddd> Hello
[17:39] <Lunddd> South indians?
[17:39] <gtxbb> maybe you can try #ubuntu-in?
[17:39] <Lunddd> Where are you from?
[17:40] <gtxbb> Lunddd, here in the west it is rude to ask people where they are from very early in a conversation.
[17:40] <debikad> Lunddd: janito ya manina
[17:40] <Lunddd> Canadian!
[17:42] <paduchegstp> nihil sine deo
[17:43] <squinty> !language
[17:45] <vitaled> exit
[17:47] <d0ntth1nc> hi
[17:49] <pterodactyl> guys! Anything idea related to my problem?
[17:49] <pterodactyl> I'm waiting.
[17:49] <mahdi_ja> hi all
[17:50] <mahdi_ja> after installing ubuntu 16.04 i can not run freegate with wine
[17:50] <lordcirth> pterodactyl, does your keyboard show up under lsusb or lspci?
[17:53] <pterodactyl> lordcirth : I don't know. I can't issue any command.
[17:53] <fellipe> I am trying to access a Tecvoz DVR web admin from linux, and a friend sent me an SDK, in wich I found this: libdvrnetsdk.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, not stripped . I am running ubuntu 16.04 xenial 64 bits, so how can I use this  in my operating system?
[17:54] <pterodactyl> lordcirth : How do I access virtual keyboard after logging in?
[17:54] <lordcirth> pterodactyl, http://ccm.net/faq/35051-enable-the-on-screen-keyboard-on-ubuntu
[17:58] <pterodactyl> lordcirth : Nothing happens on sliding that switch towards "ON". I don't see any keyboard :(
[17:59] <lordcirth> pterodactyl, tried logging in and out?
[18:03] <pterodactyl> lordcirth : There're so many devices. How about lspci with grep keyboard? would it work?
[18:03] <lordcirth> pterodactyl, or pipe to less.
[18:04] <pterodactyl> lordcirth : But how would I recognize my keyboard?
[18:05] <lordcirth> pterodactyl, look for things that say "keyboard" ?  Or the brand, possibly.  or "HID"
[18:05] <thisismynick> so i have an issue
[18:05] <thisismynick> http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot_from_2016-10-02_18-00-53-VwS9oLlH.1475431514.png
[18:05] <thisismynick> how do i install this damm thing
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> thisismynick: why not let ubuntu partition for you instead of manual?
[18:06] <kk4ewt> thisismynick, one stop cursing 2) you have to make a extnded partition
[18:06] <kk4ewt> you already have 4 primary partitons
[18:06] <pterodactyl> lordcirth : Nope. There's nothing with keyboard or HID.
[18:07] <pterodactyl> lordcirth : I tried booting in windows and I'm facing the same problem on it too.
[18:08] <lordcirth> pterodactyl, oh.  Well then your keyboard is probably just broken.
[18:08] <Jakey3> anyone know how to resolove this mysql error
[18:08] <Jakey3> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqldefault/mysqld.sock' (2)
[18:08] <pterodactyl> lordcirth : But every single key is working fine on grub meny
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> Jakey3: perhaps the #httpd guys might know that one?
[18:09] <pterodactyl> lordcirth : I press e to edit and can type anything in there.
[18:09] <lordcirth> pterodactyl, right I forgot.
[18:09] <sport> тсн
[18:09] <lordcirth> pterodactyl, did you change any BIOS settings perhaps?
[18:10] <lordcirth> pterodactyl, you should probably ask on ##hardware
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> pterodactyl: wich ubuntu version is that?
[18:11] <maxcell_> I downloaded a program from the web and it is a Folder with a Binary inside, where should i put it in the system before create a synlink in /usr/bin for the binary itself?
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> hi lotuspsychje
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> good evening MonkeyDust
[18:11] <pterodactyl> lordcirth : Its ubuntu 14.10
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> pterodactyl: 14.10 is eol
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> !eolupgrade | lordcirth
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> pterodactyl: install a supported version from the topic
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> lordcirth  type    /topic
[18:13] <lordcirth> MonkeyDust, why me?
[18:13] <maxcell_> can somebody help me?
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> lordcirth  that was for pterodactyl
[18:13] <maxcell_> I downloaded a program from the web and it is a Folder with a Binary inside, where should i put it in the system before create a synlink in /usr/bin for the binary itself?
[18:14] <lordcirth> !patience | maxcell_
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> maxcell_: what kind of program is that
[18:14] <maxcell_> lotuspsychje, its WMail
[18:15] <maxcell_> an wmail for google, it is working fine
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> maxcell_: wmail is inside the ubuntu repos
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> !info wmail
[18:15] <maxcell_> lotuspsychje, i tried, doesnt work here
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> maxcell_: define doesnt work please
[18:16] <maxcell_> lotuspsychje, i think its not the same program
[18:16] <maxcell_> lotuspsychje, my wmail have almost 50MB
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> maxcell_: you have an url for the one you trying to install?
[18:16] <maxcell_> yes, wait
[18:17] <maxcell_> http://thomas101.github.io/wmail/download
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> maxcell_: yeah seems its like something else
[18:19] <maxcell_> it is definitly
[18:20] <maxcell_> so, it is working fine the program
[18:20] <maxcell_> i just want to know how to "install" and make the links on the system properly
[18:20] <maxcell_> to call it from the terminal
[18:21] <maxcell_> without need to open the folder and ./wmail
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> maxcell_: i think its just meant to be launched from its own dir
[18:21] <maxcell_> ..
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> maxcell_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/07/wmail-gmail-electron-app-linux-desktop
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> maxcell_: syas there's no ubuntu installer at bottom
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> maxcell_: maybe someone will port a snap in the future?
[18:22] <lordcirth> maxcell_, just alias it or add it to PATH
[18:23] <r121> hello ! my dvd player open on pc startup ? why?
[18:23] <maxcell_> lordcirth, i was going to create a symlink to /usr/bin
[18:23] <lordcirth> r121, do you have a dvd in the drive?
[18:23] <maxcell_> lordcirth, there is a problem with that?
[18:23] <lordcirth> maxcell_, that's probably ok too.
[18:23] <r121> lordcirth: no
[18:24] <lordcirth> r121, when you say your player opens, you mean the physical tray, or the software?
[18:24] <maxcell_> lordcirth, btw, just by curiosity where did i put new PATHS on linux? its in .bashrc?
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> r121: perhaps look in syslog to see errors about dvd?
[18:24] <r121> lordcirth:physical tray
[18:24] <lordcirth> maxcell_, .bashrc for you, or /etc/bash.bashrc for all users
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> r121: on wich ubuntu version this happens?
[18:25] <r121> lotuspsychje: ubuntu 16.04 lts
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> r121: at wich point of the boot, does it open exactly?
[18:25] <thisismynick> lotuspsychje: how? because i dont want to  delete windows
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | thisismynick
[18:25] <r121> yes and remain open. i close it by pushing button.
[18:26] <thisismynick> im asking you
[18:26] <thisismynick> not a bot
[18:26] <thisismynick> the guide i found on askubuntu didn't work for me
[18:26] <thisismynick> this is why im here, to talk to a person
[18:26] <r121> lotuspsychje: on just starting computer before selecting menu for memory test , ubuntu etc
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> r121: bot sure its an ubuntu issue then..
[18:27] <r121> lotuspsychje: means hardware issue?
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> r121: did yiu have this on other Oses?
[18:27] <thisismynick> ?
[18:27] <lordcirth> It can hardly be an Ubuntu problem if it happens before Grub loads
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> thisismynick: dualboots are not for me, perhaps someone else might assist you?
[18:28] <r121> lotuspsychje: I am using ubuntu from1 year.
[18:28] <r121> lotuspsychje: means last one year
[18:28] <r121> not other os
[18:28] <thisismynick> i need a hand, this ubuntu is running by live usb stick now, and im not sure what to click here to keep windows too. help please. http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot_from_2016-10-02_18-00-53-VwS9oLlH.1475431514.png
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> r121: did it happen on other ubuntu versions?
[18:29] <tgm4883> thisismynick: Unfortunately you'll need to delete/move one of those partitions in order to create an extended partition
[18:29] <gtxbb> thisismynick, you should backup your data still
[18:29] <r121> lotuspsychje: never
[18:29] <thisismynick> no need to backup
[18:29] <r121> lotuspsychje: its happened from 4-5 days
[18:29] <thisismynick> i have nothing important but i dont want to lose windblows
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> r121: so it started to occur after installing 16.04? or recent update?
[18:30] <thisismynick> tgm4883: how would i do it ? and please don't refer me to a 3,000,000page guide
[18:30] <tgm4883> thisismynick: if you don't care about your data, then reinstall windows using less than 4 partitions (or creating an extended partition during this), then install ubuntu
[18:30] <r121> lotuspsychje: I dont upgrade my os in last week
[18:30] <thisismynick> how the hell cant i install ubuntu now?
[18:30] <thisismynick> im on it right now
[18:31] <lotuspsychje> r121: your up to date to latest 16.04.1?
[18:31] <thisismynick> how hard can it be
[18:31] <thisismynick> there is a lot of free space on this laptop
[18:31] <thisismynick> its a 1tb drive
[18:31] <tgm4883> thisismynick: you have maxed out the number of primary partitions you can have
[18:31] <\9> thisismynick: there's 4 ntfs partitions already
[18:31] <thisismynick> with one partition ?
[18:31] <thisismynick> im not sure why
[18:31] <r121> lotuspsychje: No , in about menu it shows 16.04
[18:31] <thisismynick> but i dont need 4
[18:31] <\9> but windows does
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> r121: lsb_release -a
[18:32] <thisismynick> windows needs 4 ? wtf
[18:32] <thisismynick> since when
[18:32] <tgm4883> thisismynick: you have 4 partitions because when you installed windows (or when it came from the factory like that) they made 4
[18:32] <\9> i've always seen windows use more than 1 partition for some reason
[18:32] <tgm4883> thisismynick: it doesn't need 4, but that is how it's currently setup
[18:32] <thisismynick> ok, can i delete one in this ?
[18:32] <r121> lotuspsychje: yeah it shows 16.04.1
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> r121: perhaps ##hardware channel can also try to sort this preboot dvd issue
[18:33] <thisismynick> i just clicked the  -   on one, and it removed it
[18:33] <tgm4883> IIRC, Windows will generally have 1 for boot, 1 for recovery, 1 for the system (c drive) and 1 for restoring
[18:33] <r121> lotuspsychje: are you sure this is hardware issue?
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> r121: if it occurs before grub load, as lordcirth suggested, it might
[18:34] <thisismynick> http://picpaste.com/pics/goddamit-2dXNBf1Y.1475433233.png
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> r121: try bios defaults load perhaps?
[18:34] <thisismynick> this is what i got now \9
[18:34] <r121> lotuspsychje: how?
[18:34] <tgm4883> thisismynick: hope you didn't delete an important one
[18:34] <tgm4883> thisismynick: in any case, you should be able to install now
[18:34] <lordcirth> thisismynick, excellent. click on the free space, and add an Extended partition
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> r121: register and join ##hardware please, perhaps they might be able to sort better
[18:35] <\9> i'd try to boot to windows first to check whether or not it's screwed up now
[18:35] <craigbass76> I'm on an Ubuntu box that boots to the terminal. I'm used to an /etc/inittab file, butt things have changed since the last time I had something like this break.
[18:35] <tgm4883> \9: not sure what the point in that would be
[18:35] <\9> the deleted partition seems to have been a rather large one
[18:35] <craigbass76> This happened after an update to 16.04
[18:35] <r121> lotuspsychje: thanku buddy!
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> laterz guys
[18:35] <thisismynick> \9  use as ?
[18:36] <\9> i'd first create the extended partition
[18:36] <thisismynick> http://picpaste.com/pics/useas-EUo7xKus.1475433375.png
[18:36] <\9> then use 1 partition for the system and 1 for home data
[18:36] <akik> thisismynick: if you don't know what the deleted partition contained, you should cancel the process
[18:36] <thisismynick> akik at this point i dont care
[18:36] <\9> akik: that's what i said
[18:36] <\9> thisismynick: might as well nuke windows entirely then
[18:36] <thisismynick> no
[18:36] <thisismynick> it said 124mb used
[18:37] <thisismynick> i doubt it was important
[18:37] <akik> thisismynick: famous last words
[18:37] <\9> "doubt"
[18:37] <thisismynick> so
[18:37] <thisismynick> how do i set this up
[18:37] <tgm4883> thisismynick: do you have media to reinstall windows if you need to?
[18:37] <thisismynick> http://picpaste.com/pics/useas-EUo7xKus.1475433375.png
[18:37] <akik> thisismynick: if you don't know what the deleted partition contained, you should cancel the process
[18:37] <\9> thisismynick: i'd first ensure that windows works
[18:37] <thisismynick> tgm4883: im ok with windblows
[18:37] <thisismynick> i have all versions on my usb key
[18:37] <tgm4883> ...
[18:37] <\9> thisismynick: because if windows is now broken beyond repair, you'll want to first fix windows before installing ubuntu
[18:38] <thisismynick> how do i set this up
[18:38] <\9> thisismynick: because it's easier that way around
[18:38] <thisismynick> http://picpaste.com/pics/useas-EUo7xKus.1475433375.png
[18:38] <thisismynick> i dont care about windows
[18:38] <thisismynick> forget windows
[18:38] <\9> then nuke it
[18:38] <thisismynick> no
[18:38] <tgm4883> thisismynick: honestly, I'd reinstall windows to a single partition first, then I'd install Ubuntu
[18:38] <\9> why keep something you don't care about?
[18:38] <thisismynick> stop it with this dam windows
[18:38] <\9> fine but don't come complaining to us if windows doesn't work anymore
[18:38] <thisismynick> im asking about partitioning for the ubuntu install
[18:38] <thisismynick> not windows
[18:39] <thisismynick> ill deal with it later
[18:39] <\9> as i said, it's easier to deal with it now
[18:39] <akik> wow
[18:39] <thisismynick> i know what you said.......
[18:39] <thisismynick> and i dont care about it lol
[18:39] <thisismynick> i just want to install this ubuntu
[18:39] <thisismynick> like i asked 4 times
[18:39] <thisismynick> how do i partition it correctly in this menu
[18:39] <thisismynick> http://picpaste.com/pics/useas-EUo7xKus.1475433375.png
[18:39] <akik> 21:25 < thisismynick> lotuspsychje: how? because i dont want to  delete windows
[18:40] <tgm4883> thisismynick: click on the empty space then click the + icon
[18:40] <thisismynick> click my link
[18:40] <thisismynick> i did that
[18:40] <lordcirth> thisismynick, now decide whether you want a separate /home, and whether you want swap
[18:40] <thisismynick> this part right there is why im here
[18:40] <tgm4883> thisismynick: ok, carve out 20000MB and mark it as /
[18:40] <thisismynick> im not sure what is what
[18:40] <thisismynick> ok
[18:40] <thisismynick> ty
[18:40] <thisismynick> ill try it
[18:41] <akik> thisismynick: you probably deleted your windows os partition
[18:41] <thisismynick> did someone drop you on your head akik ? \i said it was used with 124mb
[18:41] <thisismynick> like 3 times
[18:41] <tgm4883> akik: he's been told that many times. I don't think it needs repeating
[18:41] <thisismynick> stop it drop it
[18:41] <thisismynick> pls
[18:41] <\9> akik: it's not our problem
[18:41] <thisismynick> how would 124mb be important to windows
[18:41] <andie> Hai all
[18:41] <\9> akik: let him wreck his system
[18:41] <thisismynick> it wont
[18:42] <tgm4883> thisismynick: have you done what I asked?
[18:42] <thisismynick> tgm4883: its saying an error message, one sec.
[18:43] <thisismynick> http://picpaste.com/pics/tgm-9Ao0bPnM.1475433776.png
[18:43] <thisismynick> tgm4883: ^
[18:43] <andie> My wifi won't enable on ubuntu 16.4 fresh install, can someone help me?
[18:43] <tgm4883> thisismynick: ok, we weren't quite ready for you to hit install yet. We need a few more partitions
[18:43] <tgm4883> thisismynick: hit go back. How much RAM do you have?
[18:44] <thisismynick> enough
[18:44] <thisismynick> brb customer walked in
[18:45] <tgm4883> thisismynick: not answering questions that you are asked makes this more difficult. But you need to click on the empty space again, click +, then create another partition with the size of your RAM, set use as to SWAP.
[18:45] <tgm4883> thisismynick: once that is done, make one more partition, with the rest of the free space, use as EXT4 and set as /home
[18:45] <tgm4883> thisismynick: then cross your fingers and hit install
[18:46]  * tgm4883 goes back to configuring openhab
[18:47] <thisismynick> ok here
[18:47] <thisismynick> how the hell is it that hard to install ubuntu now
[18:47] <thisismynick> with wubi it was so damm easy
[18:47] <thisismynick> what happened?
[18:47] <tgm4883> thisismynick: wubi was terrble
[18:47] <thisismynick> oh god no
[18:48] <thisismynick> i installed ubuntu with wubi like 200 + times with no issues whatsoever
[18:48] <lordcirth> Wubi was a terrible idea that worked better than expected
[18:48] <thisismynick> this shitty version today is so much crappier then 10.04
[18:48] <thisismynick> its starting to get like windows and ios
[18:48] <thisismynick> pls sthap
[18:48] <\9> !ohmy
[18:49] <tgm4883> thisismynick: I've posted what you need to do above. It's difficult because your windows installation is making it difficult. So either do the steps provided or don't, but complaining about how wubi was better is irrelevant to the situation at hand
[18:49] <thisismynick> what i mean is, you guys care more about my windows then i do, and its ridiculous
[18:50] <thisismynick> all i want is to install ubuntu, it should be made for idiots who has no idea what to do
[18:50] <tgm4883> thisismynick: Then go back to the main menu and tell ubuntu to format the entire drive. Super simple
[18:51] <lordcirth> Well, if your Windows install doesn't use all 4, it is.
[18:51] <craigbass76> I'm on an Ubuntu box that boots to the terminal. I'm used to an /etc/inittab file, butt things have changed since the last time I had something like this break.
[18:51] <Bashing-om> thisismynick: Do you complain that Ubuntu cares about Windows - and can accomodate, and Windows coold care less about ubuntu ?
[18:52] <thisismynick> Bashing-om: no
[18:53] <gebruiker> does ubuntu mini give the option to install DE during the install?
[18:53] <thisismynick> omg that this installer is fucking stupid
[18:53] <thisismynick> ill tell the guy to install 10.04
[18:53] <thisismynick> i hate this
[18:53] <akik> gebruiker: yes it'll show the list of tasks to install, the desktops are there
[18:54]  * tgm4883 rolls eyes
[18:55] <lordcirth> craigbass76, What is broken, exactly?
[18:59] <godFuture> hey all, does someone know how to properly install grub after hhd to ssd migration? No matter what I do, the hdd is starting...
[18:59] <gtxbb> godFuture, if you used dd, then you cloned the fsuuid
[18:59] <gtxbb> godFuture, that would explain it
[19:00] <godFuture> Nope, I partitioned the ssd and copied the data in liveCD
[19:00] <godFuture> I have adjusted fstab with new UUID
[19:01] <godFuture> I also tried to chroot to ssd from liveCD (proc,sys,dev)
[19:01] <lordcirth> godFuture, and you've installed grub on the SSD?
[19:01] <godFuture> yes
[19:01] <lordcirth> godFuture, and you've set BIOS to boot from the SSD?
[19:01] <godFuture> yes
[19:02] <godFuture> In grub boot menu enty there is ubuntu and ubuntu (dev/sdb)
[19:02] <godFuture> in liveCD dev/sdb is the ssd
[19:02] <godFuture> but when I select dev/sdb ubuntu in grub menu, again the hdd is starting
[19:03] <lordcirth> godFuture, do you have a separate / and /boot?
[19:03] <godFuture> yess
[19:03] <Bashing-om> godFuture: Boot the liveDVD, mount the root partition of the SSD, and verify the UUIDs in /etc/fstab file ??
[19:04] <chris____> hello?
[19:04] <godFuture> well, I did several times. I guess no matter where I look (grub recovery, liveCD, hdd ubuntu) the UUIDs should be the same
[19:04] <fireman> Hello, anyone can help me, my wifi cant enable, ubuntu 16.4 fresh install
[19:05] <godFuture> right?
[19:05] <lordcirth> chris____, welcome
[19:05] <chris____> uu, nice
[19:06] <godFuture> I have checked the grub cfg on ssd and there i have sereral sda (hdd) entries. Is this normal?
[19:07] <godFuture> Of Course there are sdb entries as well
[19:07] <Bashing-om> godFuture: Yes, UUIDs are unique, and should not change . ' sudo blkid -c /dev/null -o list ' to get a fresh listing of the UUIDs and make sure that /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/grub.cfg all agree .
[19:08] <godFuture> Okay. Is grub.cfg not aligned by grub-update?
[19:09] <gebruiker> anyone know something more about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ureadahead/+bug/1176536 ?
[19:10] <gebruiker> is this still present with xenial? Going to compile my own soon but would like to know if this requires some patch i can not find
[19:10] <Bashing-om> godFuture: Yep .. grub.cfg is compiled from several sources . Hooks, ladders and files . predominately under your direct comtol are the files in /etc/grub.d .
[19:11] <jj995> hi, I'm trying to troubleshoot discrete graphics boot failure.  how can I view the prior boot log? /var/log/syslog doesn't contain any entries with timestamps matching my boot failures.  I am running ubuntu 14.04.5
[19:11] <godFuture> Okay. And how to bring changes from fstab to grub.d?
[19:13] <Bashing-om> godFuture: 'fstab' == (F)ile (S)ystem (TAB)le .. that is what the kernel reads to mount partitions (file systems ) at boot . The common factor here is the UUID .
[19:15] <godFuture> How does grub know where it has to look for the root partition? I thought this was done by grub.cfg which is fed by fstab, or not?
[19:16] <akik> godFuture: grub has the root fs path in its config file
[19:17] <Bashing-om> godFuture: Nope . the primary reads to make up grub.cfg are the files in the /etc/grub.d directory AND the /etc/default/grub file. All of these apply .
[19:20] <Bashing-om> godFuture: What I can accept that is possible to be happening in your case with 2 'buntu's installed is a recursion within the /boot/grub.cfg file . There can be but ONE controlling boot authority if this is a Legacy system .
[19:24] <godFuture> Bashing-om, this sounds interesting. I have 14.04 installed, both root partitions are mentioned in grub cfg
[19:24] <godFuture> I have followed the common guides to clone hdds to ssds
[19:25] <Bashing-om> godFuture: I also multi-boot. and I can give you my solution to controlling grub . What can you presently boot ?
[19:25] <godFuture> hdd
[19:27] <godFuture> well, I can boot the old system, I get into grub recovery. This applies not for the ssd.
[19:27] <Bashing-om> godFuture: Where hdd is the 14.04 install .. and you also have 16.04 installed to the SSD .. and Windows is not in the picture ? AND 16.04 (SSD) is to Be your "primary" system ?
[19:28] <godFuture> well, as I migrate from hdd to ssd, both are the same systems. No windows in game
[19:30] <Bashing-om> godFuture: . And the SSD is to be the primary operating system .. From which is controlled which install to boot up ?
[19:31] <godFuture> yes, ssd shall be primary. I have a separate boot partition on ssd (as I had on hdd). Currently ssd is attached as USB only aside the hdd (sata).
[19:34] <Bashing-om> godFuture: How bout we set it up that the hdd install as stand alone ( must change in bios the boot order to bot the HDD 0. re-install grub to the SSD as the boot control ? If so, show me what we work with . From the booted hdd, pastebin ' sudo fdisk -lu ' . so that I know the partitions .
[19:37] <Flogisto> Hi
[19:37] <godFuture> What do you mean "install grub as boot control"?
[19:38] <Jordan_U> godFuture: It sounds like there are entries in the grub menu for both the installation on the SSD and the installation on the HDD. This is expected, as what you essentially have now is a dual boot. If you want the HDD installation not to be listed at all, then you can add GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true to /etc/default/grub then re-run update-grub.
[19:39] <home__> eee
[19:39] <Jordan_U> godFuture: Also note that update-grub does *not* install grub. Use grub-install to install grub.
[19:39] <home__> have you GTA V
[19:43] <ubuntuuser199> hello! I'm trying to understand why I can't use the LVM and disk encryption options when installing 16.04 or 16.10 alongside other disks and OSes. Can you point me in the right direction please?
[19:44] <godFuture> Hey Jordan_U, thx. This sounds logical. I did install grub (more than one time). I do not know what "OS prober" is, but from the context, I guess it disables the foreign system when dual boot. I assume I have to define what is the current boot by CHROOT
[19:44] <leptone> how might i install this on ubuntu?
[19:44] <leptone> https://github.com/jingweno/ccat
[19:44] <leptone> can i use apt-get install?
[19:46] <Bashing-om> godFuture: While we can go as deep as a CHroot, might be not needed - a simpe mount and install-grub to the SSD from the hdd install may be effective . AFTER following through with Jordan_U's advise .
[19:47] <AEL-H> How come my personalised symbols file in xkb doesn't work as a keyboard layout (ubuntu 16
[19:47] <AEL-H> but it works via setxkbmap
[19:49] <leptone> do i need to use make?
[19:49] <ubiqt> hey guys i accidentally installed windows 10 and now my bios doesnt recognize grub and proceeds to booting win10 when i select the usb drive any idea
[19:49] <uRock> How do I turn off AppArmor messages in Unity?
[19:50] <ubiqt> @ubiqt: what im trying to do is boot from usb created with rufus to install ubuntu
[19:50] <godFuture> Okay, I will try!
[19:50] <SchrodingersScat> !fixgrub
[19:50] <ubiqt> and it just boots into m$ crap
[19:51] <SchrodingersScat> ubiqt: see above?
[19:51] <Jordan_U> ubiqt: Is your USB drive configured as first in the boot order?
[19:51] <ubiqt> hey @schrodingersscat thanks for replying but I doubt they have any suggestion for how to fix it on a windows machine :D
[19:51] <SchrodingersScat> ubiqt: retry the usb if it isn't booting.
[19:51] <SchrodingersScat> ubiqt: ie, do the liveusb process again.
[19:51] <ubiqt> @Jordan_U: I selected the usb drive in the bios boot devices
[19:52] <SchrodingersScat> from the start
[19:52] <ubiqt> @schrodingersscat ty any suggestion for a tool better than rufus??
[19:52] <ubiqt> sorry for the double ?
[19:52] <SchrodingersScat> I've used something called lilo i think, and also the popular unetbootin
[19:52] <ubiqt> thanks man!
[19:52] <SchrodingersScat> as far as windows anyway
[19:53] <Jordan_U> SchrodingersScat: lili is very different from lilo :)
[19:53] <SchrodingersScat> ubiqt: oh, k, lili, lilo was another bootloader, iirc
[19:53] <SchrodingersScat> Jordan_U: thanks
[19:53] <Jordan_U> ubiqt: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[19:54] <ubiqt> thanks guys
[19:54] <SchrodingersScat> ubiqt: I say that because if it booted a liveusb before and just not booting this one, it could mean that something went sideways with the usb
[19:54] <maxcell_> Bashing-om, i have a hdd and ssd also in my computer, my grub is installed in hdd MBR which is /dev/sda. If i install with grub-install /dev/sdb (ssd) it will work or i will broke the boot? PS: do i need to enable something in BIOS to make SSD works as a boot device? I ask because i notice that the SSD is alway the second hard disk to BIOS, meaning that /dev/sda is the HDD and /dev/sdb is the SSD.
[19:56] <ubiqt> i thought it was some m$ crap to prevent people from getting away from win10 since the win7 usb/dvd tool also doesn't work on w10
[19:56] <ubiqt> but hope it isnt :s
[19:57] <Bashing-om> maxcell_: A lot depends on the partitioning scheme on the devices . MBR or GPT paritioning ? .. Boot code is generally installed to all devices . I advocate that there be only one system as the primary system that controlls what gets booted .
[19:59] <uRock> could someone please tell me how to turn off apparmor messaging or disable apparmor completely? It is driving me nutty
[20:00] <Bashing-om> maxcell_: As to the device identification .. the order depends on when the device is recognized . Generally sda will be the 1st device connected on the sata controller and the 1st recognized.
[20:00] <maxcell_> Bashing-om, i like to put the boot loader in MBR because i always did that way and never got problems, the thing is that i have 2 hard disks now, and my boot loader is installed in /dev/sda which is the HDD but, i only installed the boot loader at /dev/sda because i wasn't sure that it would work in the /dev/sdb MBR (which is SSD)
[20:00] <lanodan> Hello, someone got a problem with ath9k driver apparently and I wonder how to remove/disable it as I don’t know which package it’s from or how ubuntu handles modules.
[20:01] <uRock> !apparmor
[20:01] <maxcell_> Bashing-om, yes, the SATA is the 1st recognized, that means i can't install boot loader in MBR on the 2nd recognized disk?
[20:02] <maxcell_> Bashing-om, has to be in the 1st or doesn't matter?
[20:02] <Bashing-om> maxcell_: Well . if ya set in the sendary system as stand alone ( < Jordan_U> >>  then you can add GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true to /etc/default/grub
[20:02] <uRock> It'd be so nice if killall apparmor killed apparmor
[20:03] <Bashing-om>                   then re-run update-grub.- one can make the SSD as the controlling authority .
[20:04] <maxcell_> Bashing-om, i don't understand. I don't have problems with boot loader, but i am just wondering if i can install the grub in /dev/sdb MBR instead of /dev/sda. sda=hdd sdb=ssd
[20:06] <Jordan_U> maxcell_: Is your computer booting via BIOS or via UEFI?
[20:06] <maxcell_> Jordan_U, BIOS
[20:06] <maxcell_> Jordan_U, i mean, MBR is always legacy bios right?
[20:07] <maxcell_> Jordan_U, my bootloader is installed at /dev/sda MBR (hdd)
[20:07] <nkvd87> diversity for the sake of diversity is a fake diversity
[20:08] <Jordan_U> nkvd87: This channel is for productive ubuntu related support discussion only. Please take other topics elsewhere.
[20:08] <nkvd87> ok
[20:09] <Jordan_U> maxcell_: You can boot via UEFI from an msdos partitioned drive, but it's rare to do so.
[20:09] <maxcell_> kindness for the sake of kindness is still kindness anyway *sorry offtopic*
[20:09] <maxcell_> Jordan_U, let me read
[20:10] <maxcell_> Jordan_U, i can't just install the grub in the /dev/sdb MBR?
[20:10] <mbigras_> Hello all! Anyone there?
[20:11] <Bashing-om> maxcell_: You can install grub where ever you want, but you must tell bios where it is ( be selecting the boot device ) and YOU control grub .
[20:11] <Jordan_U> maxcell_: Assuming that you are booting via BIOS, then yes "sudo grub-install /dev/sdb" will install grub's boot sector to the MBR of /dev/sdb. Then you can configure your BIOS to boot from sdb. What is your end goal though?
[20:12] <maxcell_> Jordan_U, Bashing-om i think the grub will load faster in the /dev/sdb because it is an SSD
[20:13] <Bashing-om> maxcell_: No doubt, booting the SSD will be much quicker .
[20:13] <Jordan_U> maxcell_: I expect that so little time is spent in grub at boot that it won't make a difference, especially because where grub's boot sector is stored doesn't change where grub reads the kernel/initramfs from.
[20:13] <maxcell_> Jordan_U, Bashing-om if i "sudo grub-install /dev/sdb" it will automatically remove grub from /dev/sda MBR?
[20:13] <Jordan_U> maxcell_: No.
[20:13] <Bashing-om> maxcell_: ^^ You must control grub .
[20:15] <maxcell_> Jordan_U, Bashing-om i have windows installed on the /dev/sdb aswell with linux, but the MBR space is always available no matter what, right?
[20:16] <eslam_LinUxer> Hey ... using ubuntu 16.04 || i Am new in ubuntu 16.04 .. whats Your First step 2 Make ur ubuntu Perfect !
[20:17] <Bashing-om> maxcell_: The tutorial on booting : https://iam.tj/kb/pc/boot/#a_bootloader .
[20:18] <maxcell_> Bashing-om, ok
[20:18] <maxcell_> i'm going to restart
[20:18] <maxcell_> to see if i can boot from sdb
[20:18] <maxcell_> :p
[20:19] <lordcirth> eslam_LinUxer, what do you want it to do?
[20:19] <Bashing-om> eslam_LinUxer: 1st step a;ways ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade' use the sytem and find out what "you" want in your operating system . No one else can tell you what you want .
[20:19] <AEL-H> How come I now have to use setxkbmap to get my keyboard layout to work when before I could set it as an input language in the keyboard settings? (ubuntu 16)
[20:19] <maxcell_> -> /dev/sdb1                    start 2048 end 172072959 that means MBR is here right? before 2048
[20:19] <eslam_LinUxer> hmmmmm ,, How 2 install Wimax usb stick in ubuntu
[20:20] <ubiqt_> @Jordan_U: tried again with unetbootin it will still boot into windows 10
[20:20] <ubiqt_> a windows 7 stick works though
[20:20] <ubuntu615> Hello, does anyone know a VNC viewer that has a GUI?
[20:20] <ubuntu615> (That works on ubuntu)
[20:20] <ubiqt_> @schrodingersscat
[20:21] <Jordan_U> maxcell_: The MBR is the first sector of any disk. It's always there.
[20:21] <maxcell_> Jordan_U, ok, there is a little last thing
[20:21] <maxcell_> Jordan_U, to make it work
[20:22] <maxcell_> Jordan_U, look at this 2 lines
[20:22] <Bashing-om> maxcell_: Boot code in MBR will always be located in the last 64 bits of sector 0 . as in the tutorial .
[20:22] <eslam_LinUxer> running wimax usb on ubuntu ? :|
[20:22] <maxcell_> Bashing-om, ok
[20:23] <maxcell_> so, my /dev/sdb1 is not mark as a initialized partition, but that doesn't matter because grub will be installed at MBR, right?
[20:23] <lordcirth> eslam_LinUxer, look up the model
[20:24] <eslam_LinUxer> lordcrith : after running "lsusb" is says " BCSM250 WiMAX Adapter "
[20:25] <Bashing-om> maxcell_: A pastebin is worth a thousand posts . ubuntu does not require that a partition be marked as bootable . Is that the source of the last inquery ?
[20:25] <eslam_LinUxer> * it says
[20:26] <maxcell_> Bashing-om, nevermind you already answer
[20:26] <godFuture> Bashing-om, it did not work
[20:27] <maxcell_> Bashing-om, doesn't matter if is bootable or not
[20:28] <Bashing-om> maxcell_: All that matters is that the boot code is installed .. and that you direct in bios what device to boot . bios will hand off to the boot code location .
[20:28] <maxcell_> Jordan_U, Bashing-om if i install grub in /dev/sdb without removing it from /dev/sda first, it will result in a conflict somehow? if yes how can i remove it from /dev/sda?
[20:28] <maxcell_> Bashing-om, i get that
[20:28] <maxcell_> Bashing-om, dont worry
[20:29] <lordcirth> maxcell_, no conflict.  If it's not loaded by BIOS, it won't do anything.
[20:29] <maxcell_> lordcirth, and since the /etc/grub is equal for everyone, no conflict at all, right?
[20:30] <lordcirth> maxcell_, correct.
[20:30] <Bashing-om> maxcell_: I am a firm believer in hands on administration of the system . there are 2 ways that I am aware of to control what I want as the booting authority .
[20:32] <maxcell_> 2 wauys
[20:32] <maxcell_> lordcirth, ok
[20:32] <maxcell_> cool
[20:32] <lordcirth> However, I'm not sure how apt autoupdating grub will work
[20:34] <maxcell_> lordcirth, if the /dev/sdb grub install works and my bios let me put the SSD as a default booting disk i would like to uninstall grub from /dev/sda, did you know how to do that?
[20:36] <Jordan_U> maxcell_: Why do you want to remove grub from sda? I would recommend always having grub's boot sector installed to both drives so that it doesn't matter which your BIOS boots from.
[20:36] <gebruiker> I have patches bundled into one file, how can I extract them into seperate patches_
[20:36] <gebruiker> ?
[20:36] <maxcell_> Jordan_U, yes i'm going to let him on both, then im going to test the /dev/sdb, if i works i don't see why having that on both drives helps
[20:37] <akik> maxcell_: if you have a mbr setup, you can clear grub from the disk by erasing the first 446 bytes from the beginning of the disk
[20:37] <fishCode> akik, that is not a good way to clear the grub
[20:38] <akik> fishCode: yes well it works. is there some other way?
[20:38] <fishCode> akik, if anything you should just erase the MBR, a dos boot disk i know will do that with fdisk
[20:38] <reisio> gebruiker: if you have a patch that's a set of diffs and you only want some, just separate them out with a text editor
[20:38] <fishCode> akik, i am assuming there must be a similar command in linux if dos has that capability
[20:38] <reisio> gebruiker: diff -u <(echo foo) <(echo bar)
[20:39] <fishCode> akik, or just download and create a dos boot fisk
[20:39] <fishCode> akik, that has the format mbr functionality
[20:39] <akik> fishCode: you're suggesting to use a dos boot disk instead of running a dd command from linux
[20:40] <fishCode> akik, i am suggesting using a tool designed specifically for the task of formatting the mbr rather than giving a byte definition that could be in error
[20:40] <fishCode> akik, so yes i am but for good reason
[20:40] <fishCode> akik, if grub is the issue then you should reinstall grub using the proper grub install commands
[20:41] <fishCode> akik, that will similarly find the MBR itself and take care of it for you
[20:41] <akik> fishCode: maxcell_ asked for a specific task which can be accomplished very easily from linux
[20:41] <fishCode> which was to clear the mbr right?
[20:42] <akik> fishCode: yes
[20:42] <fishCode> akik, sounds scary but if thats how its done good stuff
[20:43] <akik> fishCode: this applies to the mbr scheme only: "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdXn bs=446 count=1"
[20:44] <akik> fishCode: well i made a type already :)
[20:44] <akik> fishCode: this applies to the mbr scheme only: "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=446 count=1"
[20:44] <akik> so from the beginning of the disk
[20:44] <glsls> hola
[20:44] <fishCode> ah i see
[20:45] <fishCode> well thats pretty cool
[20:45] <fishCode> i did not know about that
[20:45] <akik> it preserves the partition table
[20:45] <fishCode> right, that is very useful - i did not know that existed
[20:47] <glsls> quit
[20:48] <howudodat> hey guys, I need some help upgrading from 15.10 to 16.04.  I encountered this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1611470 and applied the diff and still had errors.  I was able to completely unwind the upgrade and am back to a solid 15.10 build with no updates pending.
[20:49] <ccc> clear
[20:57] <CountryfiedLinux> How do I transfer iTunes songs from my phone to Ubuntu?
[21:01] <OerHeks> maybe you can transfer them, but not play them (drm)? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPod -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[21:02] <CountryfiedLinux> ok thanks OerHeks
[21:03] <reisio> Ubuntu comes with an app that will sync from & to iPhoos
[21:04] <OerHeks> *bought songs i mean, own created mp3 are no problem
[21:08] <meldron> hi guys, i just installed 16.04 and activated work spaces, ctrl + alt + up (arrow key) is not working to change the work space all the ohter combinations (ctrl + alt + left down right) are working, anybody had a simular problem?
[21:10] <OerHeks> meldon, no issue here, is there a windowpanel crossing the boundry to next workspace? that might prevent switching
[21:11] <OerHeks> hold alt and left-mouse should drag window
[21:13] <meldron> OerHeks: i think it has something to do with the shortcut, if i want to set it in ccsm it wont accept the up arrow key after i pressed ctrl alt
[21:16] <meldron> http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1475442973.png this shortcut
[21:18] <meldron> hm its working with the other control key
[21:25] <m0ltar> Hi! Does anyone know how to set the hard "file open limit" systemwide?
[21:25] <m0ltar> I have mongo that is using almost a million open files ... stupid mongo
[21:25] <m0ltar> and it is crashing because the limit is too low, but whatever i try to raise it has no effect
[21:26] <OerHeks> m0ltar, you might want to reask in #ubuntu-server too
[21:27] <akik> m0ltar: it's set in /etc/security/limits.conf
[21:27] <m0ltar> OerHeks: thanks!
[21:27] <m0ltar> akik: yes, I changed that to read: *                hard    nofile          1000000
[21:28] <squarecircle> ohai, got two questions: how do I can tell two of my screens to keep static, while the other two change the workspace? I'm working with Ubuntu 16.04 and Gnome 3
[21:28] <reisio> squarecircle: you'd need a customized window manager, or multiple X servers
[21:29] <squarecircle> and: my nginx is currently not accessing the php-fpm ... which results in blank pages, I'm a bit confused though
[21:29] <reisio> the latter is more straightforward
[21:29] <reisio> using php will tend to produce confusion
[21:29] <squarecircle> reisio: can't help fastcgi_split_path_info ^(.+\.php)(/.+)$;
[21:29] <squarecircle>                 fastcgi_pass   unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock;
[21:29] <squarecircle>                 fastcgi_index  index.php;
[21:30] <squarecircle> oops, dafuq?
[21:30] <squarecircle> this should have not been pasted o.O
[21:31] <beanzies> lol
[21:31] <Bashing-om> m0ltar: https://underyx.me/2015/05/18/raising-the-maximum-number-of-file-descriptors <- Raising the Maximum Number of File Descriptors (Open Files) on Ubuntu 14.04 Trusty // 16.04 systemd is different .
[21:31] <beanzies> Any of you still run ubuntu 14? Just curious
[21:31] <m0ltar> Bashing-om I have systemd
[21:31] <squarecircle> reisio: Gnome 3 allows the user to change the workspace on the primary screen and ignore the secondary ones. I need just that for two screens :)
[21:32] <m0ltar> And it does have limits set in the service file, but I commented them out
[21:32] <Jordan_U> beanzies: Please don't poll the channel.
[21:32] <m0ltar> and i tried higher limits too, but nothing
[21:32] <beanzies> Jordan_U: My bad
[21:32] <squarecircle> beanzies: until half an hour I did and then I'm again fixing nginx :/ because 16.04 breaks everything again :(
[21:32] <m0ltar> main thing though is that ulimit -n always reports low number no matter what. i tweaked all settings and even rebooted and still 64k as it was
[21:33] <Bashing-om> m0ltar: See: https://sskaje.me/systemd-ulimit/ per service ??
[21:33] <m0ltar> Bashing-om: yes the service has LimitNOFILE set. But as I said, I tried commenting it out completely and also setting it to a high value 1000000 and has no effect
[21:34] <m0ltar> my understanding is that service file config can only set soft limit, and hard limit is always set by the system
[21:34] <reisio> squarecircle: you'd need a customized window manager, or multiple X servers
[21:34] <reisio> the latter is more straightforward
[21:35] <m0ltar> and since mongo is running under mongodb user, which is not power user, it cannot surpass the system hard limit. but that's just what I think, it may not be actually accurate
[21:35] <reisio> sure that's a feature & not a bug? :p
[21:35] <squarecircle> reisio: only thinking about this does make me unhappy
[21:35] <squarecircle> reisio: I really like Gnome
[21:37] <Bashing-om> m0ltar: Your understanding of systemd surpasses my own . Regrets that I do not know further .
[21:37] <m0ltar> Bashing-om: "lsof | grep mongod | wc -l" shows that mongo is using almost a million open files (running under root)
[21:37] <reisio> squarecircle: it's open source, so you can customize its own wm if you want
[21:37] <reisio> using multiple X servers wouldn't require that, but has its own complications obviously
[21:43] <guzzlefry> Does anyone know of any personal account software on par with Quicken?
[21:43] <squarecircle> reisio: I'll maybe write a patch for Gnome
[21:43] <squarecircle> not that I'd like that though :P
[21:50] <shadaloo> can someone help me troubleshoot my bluetooth sound?
[21:50] <shadaloo> at every boot I have to repair the bluetooth headset to receive audio
[21:51] <shadaloo> re-pair*
[22:43] <paolo_> hi all
[22:43] <paolo_> anyone here?
[22:44] <paolo_> guys, i'm searching for a program like microsoft access for SQL and databases
[22:44] <paolo_> any solution?
[22:44] <Bashing-om> paolo_: Just us chickens .
[22:45] <paolo_> lol ì
[22:45] <paolo_> any solution?
[22:46] <sjohnson> Bashing-om: bock bock
[22:50] <Bashing-om> pavelz: I am sure many of us can not relate to " microsoft access " ; What is your goal ?
[23:02] <thoom> I upgraded my home NAS today from 14.04 to 16.04, and I'm having trouble getting my ZFS pool to mount automatically at boot. Running "systemctl start zfs-mount.service" mounts the pools just fine, but it's not happening at boot for some reason.
[23:03] <thoom> After the upgrade, I uninstalled the old zfs-on-linux packages and installed the new zfsutils-linux, so I'm in kind of unfamiliar territory
[23:05] <OerHeks> systemctl enable ..should set the service on boot, iirc
[23:05] <thoom> I have repeatedly run systemctl disable/enable, but it doesn't seem to help
[23:10] <thoom> Hmm, this is interesting. Despite running "systemctl enable zfs-mount.service", "systemctl list-unit-files | grep enabled | grep zfs" comes back empty, as does "find /etc/systemd/ -name "*zfs*"
[23:23] <thoom> Figured it out after some fiddling. What I was supposed to run was "systemctl enable zfs.target", not "systemctl enable zfs-mount.service"
[23:24] <OerHeks> oh good find
[23:47] <m0ltar> I can "sudo su $user", but cannot "sudo -u $user ls" (get "Sorry, $USER is not allowed to execute as $user" error). What gives?
[23:49] <Ben64> m0ltar: well, the user you're using doesn't have permission to run as a different user
[23:49] <m0ltar> yet I can complete become that user?
[23:49] <Ben64> yep
[23:49] <m0ltar> that makes no sense :)
[23:49] <Ben64> it's how you set up your sudoers
[23:50] <m0ltar> so I need to edit sudoer to allow myself
[23:55] <TheFocus> morning has anyone any ideas about this error for kubuntu:
[23:55] <TheFocus> Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
[23:55] <TheFocus> klauncher said: Could not find the 'kf5/kio/smb' plugin.