| acresearch | hello people, i want to download lubuntu, what is the difference between intelx86 and AMD64? | 13:00 |
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| dode | If you are using it on most modern PCs that runs 64bit OS then use the AMD64 version. | 13:52 |
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| prashant | hello? | 18:48 |
| wxl | oh hai | 18:48 |
| prashant | can you tell me how do i get back my panel? | 18:48 |
| wxl | prashant: are you sure it's gone? try `lxpanelctl restart` | 18:49 |
| prashant | i deleted them all | 18:51 |
| prashant | accidently | 18:51 |
| wxl | prashant: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64631/how-to-restore-the-default-lubuntu-panel | 18:52 |
| prashant | That worked! Thanks man! | 18:55 |
| wxl | np teward | 18:56 |
| * teward was pinged? | 18:56 | |
| teward | wxl: E: mis highlight? | 18:56 |
| wxl | oops yeah | 18:56 |
| wxl | derp | 18:56 |
| teward | it happens :) | 18:56 |
| tbnbuddha | hi. i installed lubuntu and my wifi is not working. so i got no inet connection. i already found a driver. but i need to install "apt-get install make". how can i download the package to run the apt-get offline? | 19:40 |
| tbnbuddha | is there a website to download sources like this manually? | 19:41 |
| wxl | dude what card do you have that you need to compile it? | 19:42 |
| tbnbuddha | do you know the commandline to print that information? | 19:43 |
| tbnbuddha | Broadcom BCM43142 | 19:44 |
| wxl | tbnbuddha: lspci -nn. you'll have to find the wifi card | 19:44 |
| wxl | !b43 | 19:44 |
| ubottu | Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx | 19:44 |
| tbnbuddha | oh thx. i will take a look | 19:44 |
| wxl | oh yeah | 19:44 |
| wxl | well that's one of the few broadcom cards only supported by proprietary software | 19:45 |
| wxl | so lame | 19:45 |
| tbnbuddha | :( | 19:45 |
| wxl | getting make is so untrivial because it has dependencies you'll need to get, too | 19:45 |
| tbnbuddha | sounds not good | 19:45 |
| wxl | which in turn has dependencies | 19:46 |
| wxl | so you'd need: | 19:46 |
| wxl | make | 19:46 |
| wxl | libc6 | 19:46 |
| wxl | libgcc1 | 19:46 |
| wxl | gcc-6-base | 19:46 |
| tbnbuddha | i love linux if it is once working. if not ... :( | 19:46 |
| wxl | well you should blame your chip for this problem | 19:46 |
| wxl | it's not like there aren't developers interested in helping support lots of software including incredibly old stuff | 19:47 |
| tbnbuddha | i know it is not the fault of the linux developers | 19:47 |
| wxl | apple/microsoft have no interest in doing that | 19:47 |
| wxl | in any case | 19:47 |
| tbnbuddha | but that does not help who i could blame. it just don't work easily | 19:47 |
| wxl | is this a laptop? | 19:47 |
| tbnbuddha | yes | 19:47 |
| tbnbuddha | just wlan. | 19:47 |
| wxl | why don't you plug it in directly into your router? | 19:47 |
| tbnbuddha | only usb | 19:48 |
| wxl | ugh lame router :) | 19:48 |
| tbnbuddha | no, the laptop has none | 19:48 |
| tbnbuddha | the router has :) | 19:48 |
| wxl | oh even worse | 19:48 |
| wxl | that's terrrrrible | 19:48 |
| wxl | throw it out, it's useless | 19:48 |
| wxl | j/k XD | 19:48 |
| tbnbuddha | i like it because it is small and light for the price | 19:48 |
| wxl | well then you just have to follow the dependencies and get all the .deb packages | 19:48 |
| tbnbuddha | if everything works from start on i don't need a network cable. if not i am f... | 19:49 |
| wxl | here's what you do: | 19:49 |
| wxl | 1. find the right package for the right version you're on | 19:49 |
| wxl | an example | 19:49 |
| wxl | http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/make | 19:49 |
| wxl | it will tell you dependencies | 19:50 |
| tbnbuddha | thx a lot for this help | 19:51 |
| tbnbuddha | i need to dig in now :) | 19:51 |
| wxl | if it has a source package (like make is make-dfsg) then you'll have to make note of that | 19:51 |
| tbnbuddha | not really a skilled linuxer | 19:51 |
| lynorian | yeah my pci network card which had the company bought out in 2004 and the thing worked a few months ago | 19:51 |
| wxl | 2. now find it on launchpad | 19:51 |
| wxl | e.g. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/make-dfsg | 19:52 |
| wxl | again you'll have to look for the right version | 19:52 |
| wxl | expand the section for that version | 19:52 |
| wxl | package (deb files) are near the bottom of that listing | 19:53 |
| wxl | make sure you get the right architecture | 19:53 |
| tbnbuddha | just a guess. is it maybe easy to connect a smartphone via usb and use it as a router? | 19:53 |
| wxl | never done it before but theoretically yes tbnbuddha | 19:54 |
| wxl | so if you have an i386 you'd want https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/make_4.1-9_i386.deb | 19:54 |
| wxl | so that's one done | 19:54 |
| wxl | now do the same thing for all the other dependencies | 19:54 |
| wxl | obviously you need to install them in reverse | 19:54 |
| wxl | in other words, make would be the last thing you install | 19:54 |
| tbnbuddha | your help is really great but when i overlook it, it looks like an hour or two work for me. need the laptop tomorrow morning in my new co-working space | 19:54 |
| wxl | dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb will install it | 19:54 |
| tbnbuddha | a little sleep would be also not that bad :P | 19:55 |
| wxl | not really | 19:55 |
| wxl | you only have about 5 dependencies to worry about | 19:55 |
| wxl | it's just not one and only one package | 19:55 |
| tbnbuddha | is it like downloading 5 files, put them somewhere where apt.get finds it and then run the command? | 19:55 |
| wxl | well what i would do is download them all | 19:55 |
| wxl | then put them on the drive of the laptop (maybe use usb) | 19:56 |
| tbnbuddha | yep thats what i already done | 19:56 |
| wxl | then dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb, starting with the remote dependency of make | 19:56 |
| tbnbuddha | to get the driver. then i was asked about the make package :) | 19:56 |
| tbnbuddha | i386 was 32 bit right? | 19:57 |
| tbnbuddha | got an 64 bit one | 19:57 |
| wxl | so you'd start with gcc-6-base, then libc6, then libgcc1, then make | 19:57 |
| wxl | amd64 is 64 and i386 is 32 | 19:57 |
| wxl | check your kernel to see what it is because that's ultimately what matters | 19:57 |
| tbnbuddha | it is 64 bit | 19:58 |
| wxl | uname -m will get you that where x86_64 is amd64 and x86 is i386 | 19:58 |
| tbnbuddha | x86_64 | 19:58 |
| wxl | to think that this is how we did EVERYTHING back in the day XD | 19:58 |
| tbnbuddha | your skills are impressive :) | 19:59 |
| wxl | well and back in the day there was no such thing as binary packages! | 19:59 |
| tbnbuddha | wish i had those. | 19:59 |
| wxl | i've been doing it for a while. it takes a little practice | 19:59 |
| wxl | and honestly i'm not the best | 19:59 |
| tbnbuddha | i appreciate it. | 19:59 |
| wxl | offtopic but there's a free linux mentoring program. see more at linuxpadawan.net | 19:59 |
| tbnbuddha | sounds good but i learn database stuff, php, javascript at the moment. my head hurts enough right now :) | 20:00 |
| tbnbuddha | but i mark that page. sounds good | 20:00 |
| wxl | well we're there when you need help. many of us have other skills, too, if you're interested | 20:01 |
| wxl | you can idle in #linxupadawan if you want to hang out :) | 20:01 |
| tbnbuddha | it is great stuff for beginners like me. i searched a lot but just run from problem to problem | 20:01 |
| tbnbuddha | i try to follow your instructions now. | 20:02 |
| wxl | tbnbuddha: we were all beginners once XD | 20:02 |
| tbnbuddha | thats right | 20:02 |
| till__ | mmh i think i installed the packages successfully. but when i try to make my driver i receive "recipe for target[module_name] failed | 20:40 |
| till__ | and recipe for target "all" failed | 20:41 |
| till__ | i found help on google that says i should try to use -i to ignore errors. but i don't know if this is good | 20:41 |
| wxl | till__: i doubt that will fix things | 20:42 |
| till__ | i try that one | 20:42 |
| wxl | till__: what package is this tho? | 20:42 |
| till__ | not a package i think. it is the driver i downloaded | 20:43 |
| till__ | when i try to make and make install it | 20:43 |
| till__ | it throws that error | 20:43 |
| wxl | i think you'd be better off using the ubuntu package | 20:43 |
| till__ | which one you meant? | 20:43 |
| wxl | this one till__ https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl | 20:43 |
| wxl | you can just dpkg -i it | 20:44 |
| till__ | is this a driver for those wifi cards? | 20:44 |
| wxl | you may still have the same problem | 20:44 |
| wxl | if that's the case you need linux-header | 20:44 |
| wxl | yes | 20:44 |
| till__ | i try it | 20:45 |
| wxl | here's where to get linux-headers, till__ https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux | 20:46 |
| wxl | make sure you get the right version | 20:46 |
| till__ | i need 3 more packages to install it says. try that | 20:49 |
| wxl | oops | 20:49 |
| wxl | probably coreutils | 20:49 |
| till__ | libc-dev | 20:50 |
| till__ | dkms | 20:50 |
| till__ | linux-libc-dev | 20:50 |
| wxl | k which linux-headers package are you using? | 20:50 |
| till__ | sorry, but what do you mean by linux-headers? i tried to install bcml-kernel-source | 20:51 |
| wxl | oh | 20:51 |
| wxl | hahahah | 20:51 |
| wxl | okok | 20:51 |
| till__ | i really don't know about that technical terms. makes it a bit difficult to form the right questions and don't understand everything you said. But it is great help so far. i get those 3 packages now and install them | 20:53 |
| wxl | yeah let me help you with that | 20:53 |
| wxl | here's dkms https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dkms | 20:54 |
| till__ | need a lot of time. because typing on the smartphone, moving the files, then switch to the laptop and so one :) | 20:54 |
| till__ | but works fine so far | 20:54 |
| wxl | libc6-dev https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc | 20:55 |
| wxl | get a bluetooth keyboard :) | 20:55 |
| till__ | have one. was too lazy to get it. my fault | 20:56 |
| wxl | go back to that linux page to get linux-libc-dev | 20:56 |
| wxl | it's built from the same source package | 20:56 |
| till__ | got it. and then the dkms | 20:58 |
| wxl | here's dkms https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dkms | 20:58 |
| till__ | dkms benötigt gcc :( get that one also | 21:01 |
| till__ | when i search for "gcc" it gives me a ton of results. how do i know which one i need? | 21:03 |
| wxl | sorry i'm at work till__ and was on the phone https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-defaults | 21:04 |
| wxl | you want the deb file for just gcc | 21:05 |
| till__ | i really appreciate it. your work is much more important then my questions | 21:05 |
| wxl | as an exmaple https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/gcc_6.1.1-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb | 21:05 |
| till__ | depends on gcc-6. when i try to install this it showed me 7 more depencies. puuh. i cannot finish this today. :( | 21:15 |
| till__ | but your help was great. i really appreciate it | 21:15 |
| till__ | wish a good night. thx a lot for the help | 21:26 |
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