[13:00] hello people, i want to download lubuntu, what is the difference between intelx86 and AMD64? [13:52] If you are using it on most modern PCs that runs 64bit OS then use the AMD64 version. === dldurk_ is now known as daffodil === daffodil is now known as dldurk [18:48] hello? [18:48] oh hai [18:48] can you tell me how do i get back my panel? [18:49] prashant: are you sure it's gone? try `lxpanelctl restart` [18:51] i deleted them all [18:51] accidently [18:52] prashant: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64631/how-to-restore-the-default-lubuntu-panel [18:55] That worked! Thanks man! [18:56] np teward [18:56] * teward was pinged? [18:56] wxl: E: mis highlight? [18:56] oops yeah [18:56] derp [18:56] it happens :) [19:40] hi. i installed lubuntu and my wifi is not working. so i got no inet connection. i already found a driver. but i need to install "apt-get install make". how can i download the package to run the apt-get offline? [19:41] is there a website to download sources like this manually? [19:42] dude what card do you have that you need to compile it? [19:43] do you know the commandline to print that information? [19:44] Broadcom BCM43142 [19:44] tbnbuddha: lspci -nn. you'll have to find the wifi card [19:44] !b43 [19:44] Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx [19:44] oh thx. i will take a look [19:44] oh yeah [19:45] well that's one of the few broadcom cards only supported by proprietary software [19:45] so lame [19:45] :( [19:45] getting make is so untrivial because it has dependencies you'll need to get, too [19:45] sounds not good [19:46] which in turn has dependencies [19:46] so you'd need: [19:46] make [19:46] libc6 [19:46] libgcc1 [19:46] gcc-6-base [19:46] i love linux if it is once working. if not ... :( [19:46] well you should blame your chip for this problem [19:47] it's not like there aren't developers interested in helping support lots of software including incredibly old stuff [19:47] i know it is not the fault of the linux developers [19:47] apple/microsoft have no interest in doing that [19:47] in any case [19:47] but that does not help who i could blame. it just don't work easily [19:47] is this a laptop? [19:47] yes [19:47] just wlan. [19:47] why don't you plug it in directly into your router? [19:48] only usb [19:48] ugh lame router :) [19:48] no, the laptop has none [19:48] the router has :) [19:48] oh even worse [19:48] that's terrrrrible [19:48] throw it out, it's useless [19:48] j/k XD [19:48] i like it because it is small and light for the price [19:48] well then you just have to follow the dependencies and get all the .deb packages [19:49] if everything works from start on i don't need a network cable. if not i am f... [19:49] here's what you do: [19:49] 1. find the right package for the right version you're on [19:49] an example [19:49] http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/make [19:50] it will tell you dependencies [19:51] thx a lot for this help [19:51] i need to dig in now :) [19:51] if it has a source package (like make is make-dfsg) then you'll have to make note of that [19:51] not really a skilled linuxer [19:51] yeah my pci network card which had the company bought out in 2004 and the thing worked a few months ago [19:51] 2. now find it on launchpad [19:52] e.g. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/make-dfsg [19:52] again you'll have to look for the right version [19:52] expand the section for that version [19:53] package (deb files) are near the bottom of that listing [19:53] make sure you get the right architecture [19:53] just a guess. is it maybe easy to connect a smartphone via usb and use it as a router? [19:54] never done it before but theoretically yes tbnbuddha [19:54] so if you have an i386 you'd want https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/make_4.1-9_i386.deb [19:54] so that's one done [19:54] now do the same thing for all the other dependencies [19:54] obviously you need to install them in reverse [19:54] in other words, make would be the last thing you install [19:54] your help is really great but when i overlook it, it looks like an hour or two work for me. need the laptop tomorrow morning in my new co-working space [19:54] dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb will install it [19:55] a little sleep would be also not that bad :P [19:55] not really [19:55] you only have about 5 dependencies to worry about [19:55] it's just not one and only one package [19:55] is it like downloading 5 files, put them somewhere where apt.get finds it and then run the command? [19:55] well what i would do is download them all [19:56] then put them on the drive of the laptop (maybe use usb) [19:56] yep thats what i already done [19:56] then dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb, starting with the remote dependency of make [19:56] to get the driver. then i was asked about the make package :) [19:57] i386 was 32 bit right? [19:57] got an 64 bit one [19:57] so you'd start with gcc-6-base, then libc6, then libgcc1, then make [19:57] amd64 is 64 and i386 is 32 [19:57] check your kernel to see what it is because that's ultimately what matters [19:58] it is 64 bit [19:58] uname -m will get you that where x86_64 is amd64 and x86 is i386 [19:58] x86_64 [19:58] to think that this is how we did EVERYTHING back in the day XD [19:59] your skills are impressive :) [19:59] well and back in the day there was no such thing as binary packages! [19:59] wish i had those. [19:59] i've been doing it for a while. it takes a little practice [19:59] and honestly i'm not the best [19:59] i appreciate it. [19:59] offtopic but there's a free linux mentoring program. see more at linuxpadawan.net [20:00] sounds good but i learn database stuff, php, javascript at the moment. my head hurts enough right now :) [20:00] but i mark that page. sounds good [20:01] well we're there when you need help. many of us have other skills, too, if you're interested [20:01] you can idle in #linxupadawan if you want to hang out :) [20:01] it is great stuff for beginners like me. i searched a lot but just run from problem to problem [20:02] i try to follow your instructions now. [20:02] tbnbuddha: we were all beginners once XD [20:02] thats right [20:40] mmh i think i installed the packages successfully. but when i try to make my driver i receive "recipe for target[module_name] failed [20:41] and recipe for target "all" failed [20:41] i found help on google that says i should try to use -i to ignore errors. but i don't know if this is good [20:42] till__: i doubt that will fix things [20:42] i try that one [20:42] till__: what package is this tho? [20:43] not a package i think. it is the driver i downloaded [20:43] when i try to make and make install it [20:43] it throws that error [20:43] i think you'd be better off using the ubuntu package [20:43] which one you meant? [20:43] this one till__ https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl [20:44] you can just dpkg -i it [20:44] is this a driver for those wifi cards? [20:44] you may still have the same problem [20:44] if that's the case you need linux-header [20:44] yes [20:45] i try it [20:46] here's where to get linux-headers, till__ https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux [20:46] make sure you get the right version [20:49] i need 3 more packages to install it says. try that [20:49] oops [20:49] probably coreutils [20:50] libc-dev [20:50] dkms [20:50] linux-libc-dev [20:50] k which linux-headers package are you using? [20:51] sorry, but what do you mean by linux-headers? i tried to install bcml-kernel-source [20:51] oh [20:51] hahahah [20:51] okok [20:53] i really don't know about that technical terms. makes it a bit difficult to form the right questions and don't understand everything you said. But it is great help so far. i get those 3 packages now and install them [20:53] yeah let me help you with that [20:54] here's dkms https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dkms [20:54] need a lot of time. because typing on the smartphone, moving the files, then switch to the laptop and so one :) [20:54] but works fine so far [20:55] libc6-dev https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc [20:55] get a bluetooth keyboard :) [20:56] have one. was too lazy to get it. my fault [20:56] go back to that linux page to get linux-libc-dev [20:56] it's built from the same source package [20:58] got it. and then the dkms [20:58] here's dkms https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dkms [21:01] dkms benötigt gcc :( get that one also [21:03] when i search for "gcc" it gives me a ton of results. how do i know which one i need? [21:04] sorry i'm at work till__ and was on the phone https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-defaults [21:05] you want the deb file for just gcc [21:05] i really appreciate it. your work is much more important then my questions [21:05] as an exmaple https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/gcc_6.1.1-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb [21:15] depends on gcc-6. when i try to install this it showed me 7 more depencies. puuh. i cannot finish this today. :( [21:15] but your help was great. i really appreciate it [21:26] wish a good night. thx a lot for the help