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Unit193That tends to be expected, ubiquity is lovely. :/03:30
flocculantUnit193: I assume that was for me :)06:38
ochosibluesabre: well i dunno, it can't really hurt too badly, can it? not sure though why so many files are marked as modified, i didn't tamper with 99% of them07:31
bluesabreochosi, only asking since we're past UIFe and should somebody ask, I don't want to provide a visual grep :D09:29
bluesabres/UIFe/UIF09:29
ochosibluesabre: sure, you can always revert that commit if you feel the UIFe is going to be smoother without it09:48
ochosithe two commits are very clear and isolated though09:48
ochosione was for the audio-volume-off icon, which we don't need just yet, but it's prep for new notifyd and volumed-pulse09:49
ochosiand the new symlink for totem is the other one09:49
ochosinot sure anymore whether that one already affects yy09:49
ochosihttps://github.com/shimmerproject/elementary-xfce/commits/master09:49
bluesabreochosi, alrighty, and it looks like the rest is just office and js mimes10:37
bluesabreshould be able to slip that through painlessly10:37
nairwolfHi guys, I'm reading my mails. Have you seen the mail from makisto@gmail.com at xubuntu-devel mailing-list ? He talks about something broken with update-manager10:38
nairwolfHave you already talked about that ? 10:38
nairwolfI would like to ask him more information because his message is unclear.10:38
bluesabrenairwolf, we haven't, and I'm actually stepping out now... if you'd like, can you take a look and see if that's really required?10:39
bluesabrebbl10:39
nairwolfYes, I'll do that, I'm currently downloading the last build.10:40
akxwi-davenairwolf:  you doing 64 or 32 bit?10:57
nairwolf64 bits11:00
nairwolfI only have 64 bits computer11:00
nairwolfwhy ?11:00
akxwi-dave I was just doing the same..  I'll drag down the 32 bit instead.. that way both versions are covered..11:02
flocculantas an aside - update-manager appears here (when it thinks a restart is needed) and I *do* have that package - came with the usb installer11:05
nairwolfok, thank you akxwi-dave ;)11:08
flocculantI can leave updating with first cuppa tomorrow and see if update-manager does start, but iirc it tends to be flaky on dev installs anyway11:11
nairwolfflocculant: ok, so you don't understand what this message means ?11:11
flocculantI understand that I don't think they said what they meant to :p11:11
nairwolfI agree with you :p11:12
flocculantI sent a reply too11:12
nairwolfgreat11:14
nairwolfThe bug related to sleep mode is fixed, right ? 11:14
flocculantyup11:14
nairwolfAs I was away from keyboard last weeks, I'm trying to see what's new. And Yakkety seems really stable !11:15
flocculantyep11:16
flocculantthat's good - it releases in a couple of weeks lol11:16
nairwolfyes, I'm happy for that, so I will upgrade parents' computer to 16.10 ;)11:17
nairwolflunch time, see you later11:17
nairwolfflocculant: I can confirm there is something broken with update-manager12:57
nairwolfI'm running the last build, and I've just opened update-manager and it caused a crash12:58
nairwolfbut, I can't report it because it is said "the problem cannot be reported: this is not an official Ubuntu package. Please remove any third party package and try again"12:59
nairwolfSomeone here is foss.freedom@gmail.com ? 13:03
akxwi-daveCan confirm the same as Nairwolf on 32bit..  not sure when this error started..  as i am sure that i have run update-manager on earlier releases13:08
nairwolfbadly, that's not something I'm using regularly with my computer13:12
nairwolfakxwi-dave: Rob Peters from the mailing-list said it's already reported on launchpad, but I don't see the bug. do you see it ? 13:13
akxwi-daveapport popped up asking to report clicked ok and then it just closed..13:14
nairwolfmaybe you'll see this message "please remove any third party package and try again"13:14
krytarik@all: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/update-manager/main/revision/274213:25
meetingologykrytarik: Error: "all:" is not a valid command.13:25
krytarikWoops.13:25
akxwi-davethat matches with this I would guess13:29
akxwi-daveerror https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Fz0OP2zN/software%20updater13:30
nairwolfakxwi-dave: I have the same one13:59
flocculantok - so as long as it's reported - we can safely leave it be14:10
flocculantcertainly running it from terminal here it just works14:11
flocculantbug 162329614:15
ubottuError: Launchpad bug 1623296 could not be found14:15
flocculantok - guessing that the reason people can't find it is because it's a private bug14:15
flocculantftr 'sometimes' if you scroll down the apport dialogue you'll see the dupe bug number14:23
flocculantkrytarik: so the revision for update-manager is where it broke? and expected fix? 14:25
flocculantbefore I wander off to -release ... 14:26
flocculantTask: ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-usb, edubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-usb, lubuntu-gtk-desktop, lubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-gnome-desktop, ubuntukylin-desktop, ubuntu-mate-desktop14:31
flocculantbluesabre: for gir1.2-unity-5.0 ^^ and we certainly appear to need it to14:32
flocculantkrytarik: nvm - I'll not be wandering anywhere now :p14:37
krytarikflocculant: I guess something like "except (ValueError, ImportError) as e:" here should be sufficient: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/update-manager/main/view/head:/UpdateManager/UnitySupport.py#L3414:38
flocculantmaybe14:38
flocculantsomeone would know - that someone not being me :p14:39
flocculantthen we'd not need the extra packages?14:39
krytarikYup.14:39
flocculantkrytarik: is editing that file on an install then trying sufficient ? or do I need to do some tomfoolery - that would make no sense to me? 14:41
flocculantcos I can do that easily enough in a vm14:41
krytarikYep, it is.14:41
flocculantk - I'll muck about for 5 minutes then14:41
flocculantyep - that works14:49
krytarik\o/14:50
flocculantnow do an mp? 14:50
krytarikSure, have fun. :P14:51
flocculantthat said14:51
flocculantif I install gir thing - don't get masses of warnings in the terminal :p14:51
flocculantpaste.ubuntu.com/2327048114:54
flocculantupdate-manager at least working14:55
flocculantwith the gir thing - no warnings 14:55
* flocculant lets bluesabre think about that instead of him14:56
flocculantthere's enough warnings running things from terminal as it is without making more :p14:57
flocculantkrytarik: actually because I managed to report the bug here I did mp and linked it15:06
flocculantalso made bug not private - did it from vm15:06
flocculantakxwi-dave nairwolf - bug 162990015:07
ubottubug 1629900 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "update-manager crashed with ValueError in require_version(): Namespace Unity not available" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162990015:07
flocculantkrytarik: thanks too :)15:07
flocculantmmm - so reading the bug and the unitysupport.py thing - I can actually see what was going wrong and what was needed - not that I'd have known to (ValueError ... though :p15:14
nairwolfThank you flocculant !15:14
flocculantit won't be long before that bug you can see gets marked as a dupe of one you can't see15:20
flocculantthanks krytarik - poked in -release now, up to them now :)16:08
knomebluesabre, need any help with the artwork/slideshow uploads?19:22
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-artwork:: [shimmer-themes-debian] r17 d/greybird-gtk-theme.docs: README → README.md (by Unit 193)20:27
ochosibluesabre: i disabled bugtracking for volumed-pulse in launchpad and added a link to xfce's git: https://launchpad.net/xfce4-volumed-pulse what i couldn't fix so far is that there's still code on LP, would be nice if we could get that dropped too20:32
ochosibluesabre: right, switching to git made the bzr branches hidden by default, maybe this is already ok: https://code.launchpad.net/xfce4-volumed-pulse20:35
ochosibluesabre: also, i've merged my feature branch into xfce4-notifyd's master, if you wanna try the do-not-disturb mode or the primary monitor setting21:48
Unit193Heh, so the private bug was reported by someone using Xubuntu. \o/23:03
bluesabreevening all23:50
knome'lo23:51
bluesabreochosi, feel free to comment on (or poke with) https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/39266723:52
bluesabreknome, nice to see that our uife bug went ignored :D23:54
bluesabre(s)23:54
knomehah23:54
bluesabreI'll probably go ahead and get the packaging together, add a xubuntu-release comment and upload23:55
knome:)23:55
bluesabredoesn't affect any of the other releases ;)23:55
knomei can try to poke people tomorrow23:55
bluesabreif you'd like23:56
bluesabreI'm going to try to figure out what the icon changes were23:56
knome:)23:56

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