/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/10/04/#kubuntu-devel.txt

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santa_clivejo: if you are up for uploading there is a fixed marble here: http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/sponsor/01:04
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tsimonq2early bed for me o/01:59
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_audiocd-kio build #105: FAILURE in 14 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_audiocd-kio/105/05:03
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Mirvclivejo: sitter: there's a Qt PPU too one can apply for http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/yakkety/qt505:29
Mirvoh that was just part of developer application talks. congrats clivejo! :)05:33
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ahoneybuntsimonq2: did you install Kirigami into your 5.8 test ppa?09:14
ahoneybunseems it is a dep for 5.8 since Discover uses it as it's UI09:15
soee_clivejo: o/10:11
tibihi! I'd like to test the Plasma 5.7 on my Kubuntu machine (I get a crash from my plasma shell at least once every 5 minutes)11:01
tibiIs there a PPA or repository with debs that I can use>11:01
tibi?11:01
clivejowhat version of Kubuntu are you running?11:02
tibi(unfortunately) 16.0611:02
tibi14.04 was rock solid :)11:02
clivejoyou sure?11:02
clivejono such thing as 16.0611:02
clivejo16.04 maybe?11:03
clivejoXenial?11:03
tibiyeah, sorry11:03
tibiDescription:    Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS11:03
clivejook11:03
tibiplasmashell -v11:03
tibiplasmashell 5.6.511:03
clivejooh11:03
clivejowhere did you get that#11:03
tibi(from backports)11:03
clivejowhich backports PPA did you add?11:03
tibithe stock plasma was just as bad11:03
tibilet me check11:03
tibihttp://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu11:04
clivejoare you getting any crash info?11:05
tibiclivejo: I can look inside .xsession-errors. I didn't see anything relevant there last time I checked11:05
clivejousually when it crashes you get a report pop up asking you what you want to do11:06
tsimonq2clivejo: we really do need to update the staging PPA with 5.7.5 :/11:06
tsimonq2s/staging/backports/11:06
tibi(at least not to my eyes)11:06
clivejotibi: is it a production machine?11:06
tibiclivejo: oh, that. Yeah, I even submited several times the report11:06
tibiclivejo: yes, it's my main machine. I use it for web development11:07
clivejoany chance of copying that report and putting it on paste.ubuntu.com ?11:07
tibiis there a way to get it once it dissapeared from th systray?11:07
clivejowas the backports PPA the only one you added?11:08
clivejocould you have added another whilst trying?11:08
tibino, no other11:08
tibiwell, plasma just crashed, but no report coming11:08
* clivejo knows that some online articles are telling people to add other PPA's11:08
acheronuk5.6.5 from backports was pretty stable during the period I was using it11:09
acheronukclivejo: ummm.... which ones?11:09
clivejostaging *face palms*11:09
acheronukholy ***!11:09
clivejoyeah!11:09
tibithe only other "odd" thing I have is the Intel Graphics repository11:10
tibiI've installed the intel drivers, per #kubuntu suggestion11:10
clivejooh11:10
clivejothat could be your problem11:10
tibiI've added the intel repo to try to fix the crashing problem, it was there before11:11
tibieven with stock KDE11:11
acheronukis that the 01.org ones?11:11
tibi"stock Kubuntu 16.04"11:11
tibiacheronuk: yes, the https://download.01.org/gfx/ubuntu/16.04/main11:11
acheronukwithout a log or error give a clue to a reason, it's hard to diagnose11:13
tibiacheronuk: I'll provide a section from from my .xsession-errors11:14
acheronukI've had intel be rock stable sometimes, and a bit error prone at others11:14
acheronukone reason why debian etc are wanting to fall back to modesetting and drop the driver11:15
* acheronuk goes in hunt of articles saying to add the staging ppas !!!!11:15
tsimonq2acheronuk: what's blocking us from getting 5.7.5 in backports?11:16
acheronuktsimonq2: I explained only a day or 2 ago11:16
tsimonq2oh? /me greps logs11:16
tibihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23274614/11:16
acheronuktsimonq2: --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23274620/11:18
tsimonq2acheronuk: in your honest opinion, what should migrate to backports-landing first?11:19
tsimonq2acheronuk: imho we should land Frameworks, then Plasma, then Apps11:21
tsimonq2acheronuk: I could have our little mini dep tree messed up though ;)11:21
tibihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23274626/ this is better, it has the crash inside11:21
acheronukthe staged plasma for xenial was built with FW 5.24 I think, so needs a rebuild on staged 5,26 I think11:21
tsimonq2acheronuk: which is why I say that we should get that good to go first11:22
acheronuktsimonq2: we should get YY good to go FIRST11:23
tsimonq2ah yes11:23
tsimonq2that11:23
tsimonq2acheronuk, santa_, clivejo: what's left for all the mess in yakkety-proposed?11:24
acheronuktsimonq2: even plasma and FW on YY is still help up a bit on autopackagetests11:24
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Specifically?11:25
acheronuktsimonq2: and to quote the release team.......11:25
acheronuk<slangasek> santa_: right; my point is, if these packages don't clear proposed-migration on their own merits, chances are they will not make it for release11:25
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Which is why I'm asking the *specifics* of what we're dealing with.11:26
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> I don't want that to happen11:26
acheronukany with failing tests on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html11:26
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> God forbid we release a half migrated anything11:26
acheronukI'm going to go through that later to try to work out what can be done, but many of the tests fail without really giving a good reason in the logs11:28
acheronukor at least not one that makes sense to me11:29
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> You know how to reproduce locally?11:29
acheronuknever tried11:29
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Launchpad likes to mangle some things sometimes11:29
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> It's on the ProposedMigration page11:30
acheronuktsimonq2: that page. which no matter how many times you read parts of it, makes little sense11:33
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> YOU11:33
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> To ME it makes perfect sense11:33
acheronuktsimonq2: each to their own. I could give you a page of QM that makes sense to me, but would look like gibberish to you11:34
tsimonq2yeah11:35
clivejobut you are Super Simon11:35
tsimonq2lol11:35
tsimonq2cosas buenas11:35
tsimonq2autopkgtests11:36
tsimonq2autopkgtest tests are run in ephemeral cloud instances as described on /AutopkgtestInfrastructure. The update excuses link to relevant test results, and all results can be browsed on http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com. 11:36
tsimonq2In most cases test results should be reproducible in a local QEMU VM. 11:36
tsimonq2Reproducing tests in the cloud11:36
tsimonq2Reproducing tests as they are run in production requires access to an OpenStack-based cloud (e.g. Canonistack). Source the relevant nova.rc file with the cloud credentials. Ensure that you have autopkgtest 3.16 or newer installed (the deb installs on all supported Ubuntu releases without further dependencies). 11:36
tsimonq2First make sure that your cloud knows your public SSH key, in nova keypair-list. If you don't have one yet, add it with nova keypair-add. Let's call this testkey here. 11:36
tsimonq2You can now run your tests with the ssh runner and the nova setup script, e. g. for the libpng package: 11:36
tsimonq2    autopkgtest libpng --apt-pocket proposed --apt-upgrade --setup-commands cloud-vm-setup \11:36
tsimonq2      -- ssh -s nova -- --flavor m1.small --image ubuntu-trusty-i386-server.img --keyname testkey11:36
tsimonq2The complete command as used in production (including all proxy settings) can also be seen at the top of test logs. 11:36
acheronuk^^^^ gibberish11:36
tsimonq2acheronuk: is that confusing to you?11:36
acheronuklol11:36
tsimonq2you must have a hard life... :P11:36
* tsimonq2 runs11:36
tsimonq2do you know what QEMU is?11:37
acheronuktsimonq2: it's perspective. each person has a different background11:37
acheronuksoee_: :P https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.8.0.php11:41
santa_tsimonq2: various uploads and autopkgtests11:43
soee_:D11:43
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Y'all get Harald's email?11:54
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> I say get rid of Apport :P11:55
acheronukI normally disable the damn thing anyway, unless I really need it for a report11:57
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Me too11:57
mamarleySame here.12:12
mamarleyclivejo: Congratulations on making Developer!!12:13
clivejothanks, not as happy an occasion as I thought it would be12:14
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> What's wrong, Clive?12:15
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acheronukMirv: do you know why tests like this would timer out? https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-yakkety/yakkety/amd64/k/kwin/20161004_005822@/log.gz12:48
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_okteta build #104: STILL FAILING in 32 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_okteta/104/13:13
soee_clivejo: you have now power to upload to archive ? :)13:26
acheronuksoee_: in 'theory'. I think clive wants to gain more experience before doing so though?13:32
BluesKajHey folks13:39
soee_hiho BluesKaj13:40
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_okteta build #641: FAILURE in 16 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_okteta/641/13:47
BluesKajhey soee_13:52
marco-parilloHi all; I welcome our new Kubuntu Developer Overlord.14:12
BluesKajoh? and who can that be mparillo ? :-)14:13
BluesKajmarco-parillo,^14:13
marco-parillomparillo is my KDE identity (used on my bouncer). marco-parillo is my Launchpad ID, used at work via IRC webchat (IRC ports are blocked here).14:17
marco-parilloOh, the question was clivejo is now a Kubuntu Developer.14:18
marco-parilloThe joke came from a Simpsons meme.14:18
Mirvacheronuk: possibly some stale test process that isn't ended correctly14:50
acheronukMirv: and it would do that on all architectures? as it has done?14:52
acheronukhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#kwin14:53
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Eek!15:23
acheronuktsimonq2: eek what?15:23
acheronukif you mean that test failure, there is plenty more where that came from :/15:25
acheronuktempting to just sign off and come back once ZZ 17.04 has got under way15:26
BluesKajI've had 2 yakkety iso images fail after the download, think the source files are corrupt ...yakkety is becoming even messier by the day15:28
acheronukBluesKaj: you are a jinxed tester. everything you touch seems to break15:32
* clivejo does even know what that means15:32
clivejofail after download?15:32
BluesKajmd5sums15:34
BluesKajnope acheronuk, it's just yakkety ...xenial is running perfectly here even after upgrading with staging ppas last week.15:37
santa_acheronuk: do you still have the frameworks clones you used for the 5.26 uploading?15:50
acheronuksanta_: maybe on my other machine15:51
santa_acheronuk: ok, it's not urgent, but whenever you get there check the e-c-m tag15:52
santa_it seems it wasn't pushed15:52
acheronukodd. will do in a little bit15:53
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Hey clivejo, you should upload calligra :P16:00
clivejono I shouldnt16:03
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Lol16:04
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Why not? :P16:04
clivejodoes it have a FFE?16:04
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Afair Kubuntu doesn't follow Feature Freeze16:05
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Plus it's ftbfs16:05
Mirvacheronuk: sorry on my (Ubuntu) phone and on the run, but yes we have seen cases where a thread by the software was loose at the end of the test run so the autopkgtests waited for it and only killed after 300 minutes or so when the infra kills the test. I can't check the logs right now easily.16:34
acheronukMirv: no problem 16:36
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_okteta build #642: STILL FAILING in 18 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_okteta/642/17:38
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_extra-cmake-modules build #782: FAILURE in 17 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_extra-cmake-modules/782/17:53
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_marble build #470: STILL FAILING in 23 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_marble/470/18:03
acheronuksanta_: did you say something was being done with drumstick?18:34
santa_acheronuk: we have to upload it18:34
santa_we have it in the ppa but not in the archive18:34
acheronukyep. who? how?18:35
santa_acheronuk: let me check later, I feel ark is going to be ready soon18:35
ahoneybunis it just me or does the guy in the 5.8 video sound like Chris from the Linux Action Show?19:00
soee"Linux Action Show's Chris Fisher takes us through the existing and new features"19:15
santa_clivejo: remember to push the ark commit + tag19:43
clivejosanta_: I did push after the upload19:46
clivejobut I dont see it in the web UI19:46
clivejohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23276515/19:48
santa_hmm I don't get it here with git pull19:48
santa_push again?19:49
santa_also what does 'tig' say about kubuntu_yakkety_archive and origin/kubuntu_yakkety_archive ?19:49
clivejo$ git push --tags origin 19:49
clivejoEverything up-to-date19:49
santa_do they point to the same commit?19:49
santa_hmm19:50
santa_try git push origin kubuntu_yakkety_archive19:50
santa_and then git push --tags19:50
clivejook that worked19:52
clivejothat was weird19:52
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/43DZENaH/file_665.jpg Screenshot (Oct 4, 2016 3:54:58 PM)19:55
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> :( :(19:55
santa_clivejo: I think it tries to push master if you don't say the branch19:57
acheronukI'm fairly sure I didn't have to do that pushing tags the other day19:58
santa_clivejo: are you still around?20:54
clivejosanta_: I am now21:16
santa_clivejo: libkeduvocdocument is ready to upload in git21:18
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_libkeduvocdocument build #709: FAILURE in 14 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_libkeduvocdocument/709/21:18
santa_while there is so much diff, it's just an soname bump requested by the release team to accept the package for yakkety21:19
tsimonq2they're talking about Plasma 5.8 now on Linux Unplugged21:20
tsimonq2I'm in the queue to say hai21:20
valorieoh nice21:21
tsimonq2and he moved on from it /o\21:21
* valorie is preparing to leave for the cabin21:22
valorieit is really dark and dreary here!21:22
tsimonq2valorie: have a fun time :)21:22
clivejosanta_: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/libkeduvocdocument/commit/?id=2e670f6bbf0796f49511dabb1a666c15298045b521:22
clivejoseems to be missing a changelog entry?21:22
valorieno internet, beyond enough phone bandwidth for an occasion Telegram update21:22
clivejois that on purpose?21:23
valorieno indeed21:23
valoriewhen we can get something up there, we will21:23
santa_clivejo: ugh, nope, adding it now...21:23
* clivejo is amazed at how socially as ease Simon is21:24
clivejoat his age I wouldnt have said boo to a ghost21:25
wxlwell we've had to work on him a bit since he entered the community XD21:25
wxlstill, he is certainly well ahead in many areas21:25
santa_clivejo: added now21:25
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_libkeduvocdocument build #710: STILL FAILING in 14 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_libkeduvocdocument/710/21:26
valoriehttps://goo.gl/maps/2jL8NkMGGqw -- small clearing across the river from the end of the runway is where our cabin is21:27
tsimonq2clivejo: oh?21:27
valorienot a lot of reasons for a company to provide service up there21:27
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_libkeduvocdocument build #711: STILL FAILING in 15 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_libkeduvocdocument/711/21:28
clivejotsimonq2: yeah, I was a shy wee thing21:29
clivejostill am21:29
clivejosanta_: done21:31
santa_clivejo: ok, I will have dinner and talk to steve later, thanks!21:36
clivejoany idea why none of our uploads have been processed yet other packages in the queue before and after us have?21:37
clivejoand why every question I ask gets ignored! :/21:40
tsimonq2clivejo: ping someone21:50
tsimonq2clivejo: slangasek infinity etc.21:50
tsimonq2clivejo: if it's urgent make it urgent21:50
clivejoI have21:50
tsimonq2ok21:50
tsimonq2well21:50
tsimonq2what have you said?21:50
tsimonq214:28 < clivejo> slangasek: would you have time to help with something?21:51
tsimonq2NEVER EVER EVER ask them something like that :P21:51
tsimonq2clivejo: what did you need? I'll throw a ping his way21:52
clivejoI have a few questions21:52
tsimonq2!ask21:52
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:52
tsimonq2clivejo: follow that advice by heart ^^^^^^21:52
acheronukha!21:52
clivejoI wanted to know how we deal with the kdeconnect renaming 21:53
acheronukubottu knows best21:53
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about knows best21:53
acheronukexcept on that ^^^21:53
tsimonq2clivejo: the release team won't bat an eye if you don't ask then questions they can answer21:53
clivejoand how we add new packages21:53
tsimonq2clivejo: you upload and it goes into a NEW queue21:53
tsimonq2clivejo: for package renames, it's just a metter of renaming the appropriate files, it might go in the NEW queue21:54
clivejocan you stuff be added at this time?21:54
tsimonq2*matter21:54
clivejocan new21:54
tsimonq2clivejo: well ask them, tell them why :)21:54
clivejoI have asked lots of question and never got an answer21:54
clivejothe only answer I ever got was to make a donation21:55
tsimonq2clivejo: give me a specific one line question, and I'll show you how to ask it :P21:55
tsimonq2OH SH*T XD21:55
tsimonq2"make a donation" lol21:55
acheronukhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages21:55
acheronukfor kirigami ??21:56
tsimonq2clivejo: plus the release team knows me because I act as Lubuntu release manager from time to time :)21:56
tsimonq2clivejo: come on, ask me!21:56
tsimonq2don't be shy! :P21:56
clivejooh I see, favouritism21:56
tsimonq2well they'll (most likely) pay more attention to pings from people they know21:57
acheronukmore likely they know that if they don't answer, he won't go away ;)21:57
acheronuktsimonq2: or what you said21:58
tsimonq2!ignore21:58
ubottuIf you really don't wish to see the messages from a particular person on IRC, you can use /ignore nickname21:58
tsimonq2acheronuk: ubottu knows best ;)21:58
acheronukI know22:01
clivejotsimonq2: how do I get this package sync'ed with debian and into yakkety - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdrumstick/+bug/158431022:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1584310 in libdrumstick (Ubuntu) "New upstream release available" [Undecided,New]22:10
tsimonq2ok I'll ask them that22:12
tsimonq2!info drumstick-alsa unstable22:16
ubottuPackage drumstick-alsa does not exist in unstable22:16
tsimonq2:/22:16
clivejolibdrumstick22:16
tsimonq2!info libdrumstick unstable22:17
ubottuPackage libdrumstick does not exist in unstable22:17
tsimonq2:/22:17
tsimonq2aha nvm22:17
tsimonq20.5.0-4 is in unstable22:18
tsimonq2!info libdrumstick testing22:18
ubottuPackage libdrumstick does not exist in testing22:18
clivejohttps://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=82477122:18
ubottuDebian bug 824771 in src:libdrumstick "libdrumstick: Please update libdrumstick to the new upstream release 1.0.2" [Wishlist,Fixed]22:18
tsimonq2whatever22:18
tsimonq2clivejo: oh so you want it updated to the latest version?22:18
tsimonq2I wish the bug report could have mentioned that...22:19
clivejolibdrumstick (1.0.2-1) unstable; urgency=medium22:19
clivejoit does22:19
clivejoChanged in libdrumstick (Debian):22:19
clivejostatus:New → Fix Committed22:19
tsimonq2oh nvm22:19
clivejoCommitted → Fix Released22:19
acheronukthey did it?22:20
clivejodebian did it22:20
clivejoUbuntu havent22:20
tsimonq2clivejo: not in unstable, can't sync22:20
tsimonq2clivejo: harumph, https://launchpad.net/debian/+source/libdrumstick22:21
acheronukexperimental22:21
clivejohttps://launchpad.net/debian/+source/libdrumstick/1.0.2-122:22
tsimonq2libdrumstick (1.0.2-1) experimental; urgency=medium22:22
tsimonq2but you don't understand22:22
tsimonq2no SANE Ubuntu Release team member would even TRY to sync from Experiemental22:22
tsimonq2clivejo: you have to poke someone to migrate it22:23
clivejoIm fed up poking22:23
clivejomy finger is sore22:23
tsimonq2clivejo: even then, it has to migrate from Sid to Stretch, which takes a minimum of five days22:23
clivejowell minuet isnt going anywhere then22:24
tsimonq2clivejo: slangasek will poke it later so it gets out of the NEW queue22:24
tsimonq2OH that's something22:24
tsimonq2the uploader is Ross Gammon!22:25
clivejoits needs libdrumstick to build22:25
clivejothats why I opened that bug back in May22:25
tsimonq2clivejo: then why do you wait a week and a half before release to bump it!22:26
clivejobecause minuet is stuck in the queue22:26
clivejoand it needs libdrumstick!22:27
clivejoas I said in the report requires 'drumstick-alsa>=1.0.1'22:27
tsimonq2clivejo: check your facts, dude. I asked the release team to do that, and you kept facts.22:29
clivejoIm too tired and fed up to argue22:30
ScottKtsimonq2: re syncing from experimental, it depends on why it's there.22:59
tsimonq2ScottK: oh?23:10
tsimonq2ScottK: please explain23:10
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Marble just been accepted23:14
acheronuk:)23:15
tsimonq2:D23:16
acheronukaccepted okteta23:19
acheronukour uploads are now buried under a pile of 'mate'23:26
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> I don't like the idea of any of our packages mating23:27
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> We have enough as it is23:27
wxlyou mean mah-tay-ing23:27
ScottKtsimonq2: as an example, sometimes a package is in experimental only because the Debian release team hasn't given the OK to start a transition due to other transitions in progress.23:28
* acheronuk yawns23:38
acheronukzzzzzzzzzzzz23:38
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> ScottK is there a way to remove a package that has been uploaded?23:41
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> But is stuck in the queue23:41
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> I believe its stuck in NEW23:43
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> Good night all :)23:44
acheronukoooh. Unapproved: accepted extra-cmake-modules [source] (yakkety-proposed) [5.26.0-0ubuntu2]23:44
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Good night Rik, thanks for all your help today bringing me up to speed23:47
ScottKIf it's in source New, removal is easy.  If it's binary New it's more complicated since the source has already been accepted 23:50
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> It is minuet which needs an updated libdrumstick to build23:54
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Might be better to drop it and start afresh in zz23:56
tsimonq2.or23:56
tsimonq2whoops23:56
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Backport it to our PPA23:56

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