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tsimonq2Unit193: I heard some packagesets have things in main?00:20
sudoduso/ tsimonq210:32
tsimonq2sudodus: hi :)10:45
tsimonq2sudodus: sorry I'm late from our planned time, this is when I wake up in the morning10:45
tsimonq2sudodus: around?10:45
sudodusYes, I see you now :-)10:47
tsimonq2so what do you have done in Git?10:48
tsimonq2have you done anything since our last little meeting?10:48
sudodusyes, some minor things are uploaded. The unstable ppa contains mkusb 11.0.810:49
sudodushttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb/v1110:50
tsimonq2ok cool10:50
tsimonq2I don't remember if I fully set up the stable PPA10:51
tsimonq2this is why I wanted to meet again, I don't remember what you know :)10:51
sudodusand there is an unofficial version of mkusb-nox, that I'm working on, that can create USB boot drives of Windows 7-1010:51
tsimonq2ok10:52
sudodusI am still uploading directly to the PPA, not yet via github10:52
tsimonq2sudodus: so I assume that the Debian package removed that little blob that made it unacceptable to go into Debian?10:53
tsimonq2I mean, did you remove it?10:53
tsimonq2I thought I heard something about that10:54
sudodusdo you mean usb-pack-efi?10:54
tsimonq2maybe, please explain10:54
sudodusIt is a separate package now.10:54
sudodususb-pack-efi was originally uploaded by Andre Rodovalho, and helps creating drives, that can boot in UEFI mode, even with Ubuntu family 32-bit iso files.10:56
tsimonq2and you have made sure that it will absolutely 100% work without it?10:56
tsimonq2(if people don't want it)10:56
sudodusIt is possible to create drives that boot in BIOS mode and UEFI mode from 64-bit iso files *without* usb-pack-efi.10:57
tsimonq2ok, and you've properly made people aware of that when using mkusb?10:58
sudodusSee this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb/persistent#A2._Using_data_from_the_source_iso_file10:59
sudoduswhat do you mean properly?10:59
tsimonq2I'm thinking about some way of implementing a notice like, "usb-pack-ufi not detected" and explaining hy11:01
tsimonq2*why11:01
sudodusThere is a pop up window, where you can select usb-pack-efi (if it is installed). You can select to use it or not use it.11:01
tsimonq2ok cool11:01
tsimonq2have you fully tested this on Debian?11:02
sudodusPlease run mkusb (to create a persistent live drive) and try with and without usb-pack-efi!11:02
sudodusWhen making standard live-only drives, usb-pack-efi is not used at all11:02
tsimonq2ok good11:03
sudodusYes, I think so - in Debian Jessie11:03
tsimonq2what about Sid and Stretch?11:03
tsimonq2because that's where they will go11:03
tsimonq2sudodus: after this I'll take one more look and go hunt down some victims...I MEAN DDs to upload ;) XD11:05
tsimonq2sudodus: then once that's done, it'll sync down to Ubuntu, and if anybody yells I'll be there :P11:05
sudodusyears ago I tested in Wheezy. I have not tested in any other version. I remember that it took time until it worked in Jessie - during the early stages things were weird (compared to Ubuntu), but getting closer to release things were getting nice. (I did some fixes for persistence, the functionality for live-only drives is very straight-forward and works in many linux distros).11:06
tsimonq2also since it says "works in Ubuntu" in some spots, once you've tested it, you should make sure that those spots are updated to include Debian11:07
sudodusYes, I agree, it should be validated for both Ubuntu and Debian.11:08
sudodusDo you mean in the documentation - which documentation?11:09
tsimonq2aren't there some parts of the program that say that?11:09
tsimonq2I remember hearing the DD I was talking to saying something like that11:10
sudodusDo you mean in the scripts mkusb and mkusb-nox themselves. That is easy to check :-)11:10
sudodusWhat is DD?11:11
tsimonq2yup, that's what I'm talking about :)11:11
tsimonq2Debian Developer, they have upload access to the Debian archive11:11
sudodusWe'll try to keep the Debian Developers happy.11:12
tsimonq2yep ;)11:12
tsimonq2so you say you've done no releasing in GitHub. have you committed at all?11:14
sudodusI grepped the script files, and yes, there is a home-work to do, to modify the text strings mentioning Ubuntu to include Debian11:14
sudodusI did it once, right after our first meeting, but after that I have been waiting for you11:15
tsimonq2ok, but in order for me to package mkusb in a good way, ideally you'd git tag when you release11:15
tsimonq2what's been the changelog since we last spoke? :)11:15
sudodusThe strict changelog file is a short version of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb/v1111:17
sudodusmkusb (11.0.8-1ubuntu1) xenial; urgency=medium11:18
sudodus  * bug-fix: default isdisplay=0 (alias default 'OK')11:18
sudodus -- Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@gmail.com>  Thu, 22 Sep 2016 06:42:34 +020011:18
sudodusmkusb (11.0.7-1ubuntu1) xenial; urgency=medium11:18
sudodus  * fixes for Fedora 24 and openSUSE 42.111:18
sudodus -- Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@gmail.com>  Wed, 21 Sep 2016 10:04:42 +020011:18
sudodusmkusb (11.0.5-1ubuntu1) xenial; urgency=medium11:18
sudodus  * fix to manage 'flash cards' seen as /dev/mmcblk0, /dev/mmcblk111:18
sudodus  * function select_source_as_user runs 'as user' not 'as root'11:18
sudodus -- Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@gmail.com>  Wed, 21 Sep 2016 06:41:01 +020011:18
sudodusmkusb (11.0.2-1ubuntu1) xenial; urgency=medium11:18
sudodus  * The security upgrade action can be modified (persistent live)11:18
sudodus  * 'Download and install automatically' ---> 'Display immediately'11:18
sudodus -- Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@gmail.com>  Sat, 03 Sep 2016 20:34:48 +020011:18
sudodusmkusb (11.0.1-1ubuntu1) xenial; urgency=medium11:18
sudodus  * function get_usb_pack_efi created11:18
sudodus -- Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@gmail.com>  Tue, 26 Jul 2016 18:26:03 +020011:18
sudodusmkusb (11.0.0-1ubuntu12) xenial; urgency=medium11:18
sudodus  * improved the script and removed man-page for usb-pack-efi11:18
sudodus -- Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@gmail.com>  Tue, 26 Jul 2016 04:16:11 +020011:18
tsimonq2ok11:20
tsimonq2sudodus: if you let me know when you've tested on Debian Sid and Stretch, I'll poke the DDs then :)11:20
tsimonq2but otherwise seems good to me11:20
sudodusOK. If there are problems (which I suspect), it will take time, because I'm unusually busy this week. Next week there should be more time for this task.11:22
tsimonq2ok, thanks sudodus! :)11:22
tsimonq2I have to go now, gotta get ready for school11:22
tsimonq2sudodus: if you have anything else to discuss, don't hesitate to shoot me an email :)11:23
tsimonq2o/11:23
sudodusOk, nice to have this chat. Good bye :-)11:23
tsimonq2wxl: see the logs for my convo with Nio this morning18:02
wxltsimonq2: tl;dr what's the point?18:03
tsimonq2wxl: one more tweak on Nio's side before mkusb gets into Debian18:04
wxlnice18:04
tsimonq2wxl: accept invite pls21:04
wxlhuh?21:14
tsimonq2wxl: for lubuntu-devel-notifications21:15
wxlaren't you admin? i'm slammed at work?21:15
tsimonq2wxl: I can't directly subscribe users21:16
wxl?21:16
wxlthen how am i supposed to do it? XD21:16
tsimonq2wxl: confirm21:17
wxli'm confused21:17
tsimonq2THERE ya go21:18
wxlum so where's my password?21:18
tsimonq2wxl: um so I'll forward it to you. go do work stuff. :P21:18
wxlnevermind i'll ask for a remidner21:19
wxltsimonq2: make sure to announce to list and blog and such21:21
tsimonq2wxl: once I get everything rolling21:22
tsimonq2wxl: it's still a WIP21:22
wxlkk21:22

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