[00:20] Unit193: I heard some packagesets have things in main? [10:32] o/ tsimonq2 [10:45] sudodus: hi :) [10:45] sudodus: sorry I'm late from our planned time, this is when I wake up in the morning [10:45] sudodus: around? [10:47] Yes, I see you now :-) [10:48] so what do you have done in Git? [10:48] have you done anything since our last little meeting? [10:49] yes, some minor things are uploaded. The unstable ppa contains mkusb 11.0.8 [10:50] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb/v11 [10:50] ok cool [10:51] I don't remember if I fully set up the stable PPA [10:51] this is why I wanted to meet again, I don't remember what you know :) [10:51] and there is an unofficial version of mkusb-nox, that I'm working on, that can create USB boot drives of Windows 7-10 [10:52] ok [10:52] I am still uploading directly to the PPA, not yet via github [10:53] sudodus: so I assume that the Debian package removed that little blob that made it unacceptable to go into Debian? [10:53] I mean, did you remove it? [10:54] I thought I heard something about that [10:54] do you mean usb-pack-efi? [10:54] maybe, please explain [10:54] It is a separate package now. [10:56] usb-pack-efi was originally uploaded by Andre Rodovalho, and helps creating drives, that can boot in UEFI mode, even with Ubuntu family 32-bit iso files. [10:56] and you have made sure that it will absolutely 100% work without it? [10:56] (if people don't want it) [10:57] It is possible to create drives that boot in BIOS mode and UEFI mode from 64-bit iso files *without* usb-pack-efi. [10:58] ok, and you've properly made people aware of that when using mkusb? [10:59] See this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb/persistent#A2._Using_data_from_the_source_iso_file [10:59] what do you mean properly? [11:01] I'm thinking about some way of implementing a notice like, "usb-pack-ufi not detected" and explaining hy [11:01] *why [11:01] There is a pop up window, where you can select usb-pack-efi (if it is installed). You can select to use it or not use it. [11:01] ok cool [11:02] have you fully tested this on Debian? [11:02] Please run mkusb (to create a persistent live drive) and try with and without usb-pack-efi! [11:02] When making standard live-only drives, usb-pack-efi is not used at all [11:03] ok good [11:03] Yes, I think so - in Debian Jessie [11:03] what about Sid and Stretch? [11:03] because that's where they will go [11:05] sudodus: after this I'll take one more look and go hunt down some victims...I MEAN DDs to upload ;) XD [11:05] sudodus: then once that's done, it'll sync down to Ubuntu, and if anybody yells I'll be there :P [11:06] years ago I tested in Wheezy. I have not tested in any other version. I remember that it took time until it worked in Jessie - during the early stages things were weird (compared to Ubuntu), but getting closer to release things were getting nice. (I did some fixes for persistence, the functionality for live-only drives is very straight-forward and works in many linux distros). [11:07] also since it says "works in Ubuntu" in some spots, once you've tested it, you should make sure that those spots are updated to include Debian [11:08] Yes, I agree, it should be validated for both Ubuntu and Debian. [11:09] Do you mean in the documentation - which documentation? [11:09] aren't there some parts of the program that say that? [11:10] I remember hearing the DD I was talking to saying something like that [11:10] Do you mean in the scripts mkusb and mkusb-nox themselves. That is easy to check :-) [11:11] What is DD? [11:11] yup, that's what I'm talking about :) [11:11] Debian Developer, they have upload access to the Debian archive [11:12] We'll try to keep the Debian Developers happy. [11:12] yep ;) [11:14] so you say you've done no releasing in GitHub. have you committed at all? [11:14] I grepped the script files, and yes, there is a home-work to do, to modify the text strings mentioning Ubuntu to include Debian [11:15] I did it once, right after our first meeting, but after that I have been waiting for you [11:15] ok, but in order for me to package mkusb in a good way, ideally you'd git tag when you release [11:15] what's been the changelog since we last spoke? :) [11:17] The strict changelog file is a short version of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb/v11 [11:18] mkusb (11.0.8-1ubuntu1) xenial; urgency=medium [11:18] * bug-fix: default isdisplay=0 (alias default 'OK') [11:18] -- Nio Wiklund Thu, 22 Sep 2016 06:42:34 +0200 [11:18] mkusb (11.0.7-1ubuntu1) xenial; urgency=medium [11:18] * fixes for Fedora 24 and openSUSE 42.1 [11:18] -- Nio Wiklund Wed, 21 Sep 2016 10:04:42 +0200 [11:18] mkusb (11.0.5-1ubuntu1) xenial; urgency=medium [11:18] * fix to manage 'flash cards' seen as /dev/mmcblk0, /dev/mmcblk1 [11:18] * function select_source_as_user runs 'as user' not 'as root' [11:18] -- Nio Wiklund Wed, 21 Sep 2016 06:41:01 +0200 [11:18] mkusb (11.0.2-1ubuntu1) xenial; urgency=medium [11:18] * The security upgrade action can be modified (persistent live) [11:18] * 'Download and install automatically' ---> 'Display immediately' [11:18] -- Nio Wiklund Sat, 03 Sep 2016 20:34:48 +0200 [11:18] mkusb (11.0.1-1ubuntu1) xenial; urgency=medium [11:18] * function get_usb_pack_efi created [11:18] -- Nio Wiklund Tue, 26 Jul 2016 18:26:03 +0200 [11:18] mkusb (11.0.0-1ubuntu12) xenial; urgency=medium [11:18] * improved the script and removed man-page for usb-pack-efi [11:18] -- Nio Wiklund Tue, 26 Jul 2016 04:16:11 +0200 [11:20] ok [11:20] sudodus: if you let me know when you've tested on Debian Sid and Stretch, I'll poke the DDs then :) [11:20] but otherwise seems good to me [11:22] OK. If there are problems (which I suspect), it will take time, because I'm unusually busy this week. Next week there should be more time for this task. [11:22] ok, thanks sudodus! :) [11:22] I have to go now, gotta get ready for school [11:23] sudodus: if you have anything else to discuss, don't hesitate to shoot me an email :) [11:23] o/ [11:23] Ok, nice to have this chat. Good bye :-) [18:02] wxl: see the logs for my convo with Nio this morning [18:03] tsimonq2: tl;dr what's the point? [18:04] wxl: one more tweak on Nio's side before mkusb gets into Debian [18:04] nice [21:04] wxl: accept invite pls [21:14] huh? [21:15] wxl: for lubuntu-devel-notifications [21:15] aren't you admin? i'm slammed at work? [21:16] wxl: I can't directly subscribe users [21:16] ? [21:16] then how am i supposed to do it? XD [21:17] wxl: confirm [21:17] i'm confused [21:18] THERE ya go [21:18] um so where's my password? [21:18] wxl: um so I'll forward it to you. go do work stuff. :P [21:19] nevermind i'll ask for a remidner [21:21] tsimonq2: make sure to announce to list and blog and such [21:22] wxl: once I get everything rolling [21:22] wxl: it's still a WIP [21:22] kk