/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/10/04/#ubuntu-mate.txt

omegahi everyone when a done with my downloads using flare download manager and i try to open the folder where its located this is the information that pops out "There is nothing installed to run ./home/omega/documents files."09:24
omegawhat could that step be that i did work on upon09:26
shashankshashank0010:37
ouroumov_indeed10:39
shashankhai can u tell me abt this?10:39
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nick_hello world13:27
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Guest2427Will any well help a fellow mate user?13:28
Guest2427please13:28
Guest2427I suppose people don't really monitor this channel13:30
Guest2427Perhaps I'm just being ignored or forgotten?13:32
Guest2427hello13:36
Guest2427Im still here13:36
alkisg!ask13:37
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:37
alkisgGuest2427: ths ^13:37
alkisg*this13:37
catoz_hi13:38
catoz_guys13:38
alkisgHello13:39
catoz_I need help13:39
alkisg!ask13:39
catoz_Sorry, my english very bad13:39
ouroumovcatoz_, hi13:39
Guest2427Okay just a simple question: How solid is mate on some of the newer computer. I'm looking at one from costco with an Amd proccessor (I usually use intel). I have never installed mate on something brand new. I feel like it could be frustrated and cost some cash if I'm unable to work with it13:39
ouroumovcatoz_, what do you need help with?13:39
ouroumovGuest2427, hi13:40
Guest2427it is an hp13:40
Guest2427(the one im looking at)13:40
ouroumovGuest2427, you shouldn't buy HP, they are Evil.13:40
alkisgHaha13:40
Guest2427thanks13:40
Guest2427if you tell me mate is evil I will be upset13:41
Guest2427I will call wimpy13:41
ouroumovGuest2427, http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/09/hp-to-issue-optional-firmware-update-allowing-3rd-party-ink/13:41
catoz_mm, i forget this is word... I want that my computer compute faster13:41
ouroumovAnyway.13:41
catoz_Sorry, my english not good13:41
ouroumovMATE runs fine even on recent hardware.13:41
ouroumovI'm currently on a Skylake core i513:41
Guest2427That is a printer cartridge site13:42
catoz_Who use raspberry pi?13:42
Guest2427ouroumov13:42
ouroumovcatoz_, rpi is notoriously slow. If you're not satisfied with the speed, maybe buy an x86-based computer with some kick.13:42
ouroumovGuest2427, no it's a tech news site, and an article about how HP is Evil.13:43
Guest2427okay13:43
Guest2427it looks like third party cartridge usage to me13:43
catoz_ouroumov, mmmm... I change config.txt, my rpi is quick(2x)13:44
catoz_But it's not my problem13:44
Guest2427its ouroumovs problem13:45
Guest2427he evil13:45
catoz_I need android studio on ubuntu-mate13:45
Guest2427he is evil13:45
catoz_Where i download android studio for mate?13:45
alkisgcatoz_, for mate or for raspberry?13:45
catoz_raspberry13:46
alkisgDoes android studio run on ARM processors?13:46
alkisgThat's one of the many reasons why raspberry pi is *not* a desktop computer13:46
Guest2427How solid is mate on some of the newer computer. I'm looking at one from costco with an Amd proccessor (I usually use intel). I have never installed mate on something brand new. I feel like it could be frustrated and cost some cash if I'm unable to work with it?13:46
catoz_I don't know13:46
alkisgGuest2427: that question is too generic. Usually linux runs fine on amd, and mate uses linux.13:47
Guest2427thks13:47
Guest2427how bout just tossing it on a new one13:47
Guest2427I suppose that is vague13:47
alkisgI've ran linux and ubuntu-mate in thousands of new computers, if that answers your question13:48
Guest2427I have used pretty old computers in the past13:48
Guest2427That is a lot13:48
Guest2427is there thing watch out for?13:48
Guest2427I will just install the lts13:48
Guest2427of mate13:48
alkisgWell... i've seen issues where amd processors get too hot, so I usually buy intel ones13:48
Guest2427mint it is looking pretty attractive13:48
Guest2427but mate is keeping me hooked13:48
alkisgmint has broken packaging, I wouldn't recomment it to anyone13:49
Guest2427now that I have decided your not all evil13:49
Guest2427thls13:49
Guest2427thks13:49
Guest2427so just install and hope for the best?13:49
Guest2427I suppose those computers do not come with windows to reinstall on it?13:49
alkisgBuy intel, install and hope for the best, sure :)13:49
alkisgThat's too vague as well13:49
alkisgMany amd computers have windows; others don't13:50
Guest2427YA13:50
Guest2427If I cannot get linux on it I would just install and sell on craigs list13:50
Guest2427reinstall windows13:50
Guest2427amd is okay though?13:50
alkisgI haven't seen any recent pc that *cannot* run linux13:50
alkisgI already said my opinion on AMDs...13:51
Guest2427sweet13:51
Guest2427u the man13:51
Guest2427though not evil13:51
Guest2427or woman13:51
Guest2427I will be impressed if it just runs like a dream13:51
Guest2427if not I will call wimpy13:52
Guest2427sorry13:52
Guest2427Should I just go with the latest image from the mate site?13:53
Guest242716.0413:53
Guest2427?13:53
Guest2427I suppose I could research that13:54
Guest2427any other comments form anyone?13:54
MinholiI'm testing 16.04 with mate 1.1413:54
Guest2427about How solid is mate on some of the newer computer. I'm looking at one from costco with an Amd proccessor (I usually use intel). I have never installed mate on something brand new. I feel like it could be frustrated and cost some cash if I'm unable to work with it?13:55
Guest24271.14 is the next level up13:55
Guest2427Okay I suppose I got all can outta yah13:56
MinholiThere is a ppa to upgrade to this version. It's awesome, just like Ubuntu before Unity, that I don't like and pushed me back to windows13:56
Guest2427did you just say WINDOWS?13:56
Guest2427as in MICROSOFT13:56
MinholiI got a laptop with windows 8.1 4 years ago, so I use it as is. Including to develop some projects using python/django13:57
Guest2427your running mate in a dual boot?13:58
MinholiI use similar tools in any os. Now I'm using mate on Virtualbox13:58
Guest2427virtual box in windows?13:58
Minholiyes13:59
Guest2427wow have ever switched all the way over to mate?13:59
Guest2427thanks alkisg by the way14:00
Guest2427:)14:00
MinholiAs I sayd, i don't care very much to what OS is running since I use the same tools on every os14:01
Guest2427thats genius indeed. Your computer would prob be smoking fast if you ran mate out of virtual box14:02
Guest2427One thing I will do is see if Costco will let me book with a live image (usb drive)14:03
Guest2427boot14:03
Minholinow I'm chatting with you by using hexchat on windows, and I'm upgrading a vm running debian to sid and running another with ubuntu mate14:03
Guest2427if im buying the thing14:04
Guest2427they better14:04
Guest2427oh man debian u are a genius14:04
MinholiLOL, just killing time14:04
Guest2427lollol14:04
Guest2427thats cool though14:04
Guest2427ya I ran ubuntu server on a 1 gig net in virtual box14:05
Minholicpu time lol14:05
Guest2427man cannot live on command line alonve14:05
Guest2427alone14:05
Guest2427one thing you could try is ssh forewarding14:06
Guest2427you can channel into you v machine from another computer or os14:06
Guest2427you can even foreward the x and open an app such as mozzila14:06
Guest2427you can even shut the other machine down14:07
Guest2427Well I will let you guys wake up14:11
Guest2427if you ever do14:11
Guest2427thanks again14:12
Guest2427see you in cyber space via ubuntu mate <314:12
Guest2427thanks14:12
stevenmhey I think the software boutique lies :P14:17
stevenmI can't find any evidence (looking at the applications.json and the packages that get installed) that if you select Flash Player - you get pepper flash, only npapi flash14:17
stevenmi.e. you don't get pepper flash (for chrome/chromium/opera) like it claims14:18
stevenmfor it to do that it'd be missing pepperflashplugin-nonfree package14:21
ubuntu-mateI mistakenly downloaded a 32-bit 4.7 Linux kernel onto my 64-bit 16.04.  And now I get "No working init found" I get this even in advanced boot options before I have any chance to say anything14:39
ubuntu-mateI don't know how to get around this.  I'm using the live 16.04 cd to ask this question14:40
ubuntu-mateI can get to a grub shell14:40
ouroumovstevenm, you're welcome to file an issue on bitbucket14:43
ouroumovstevenm, https://bitbucket.org/ubuntu-mate/ubuntu-mate.boutique14:43
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stevenmouroumov, already filed it on launchpad as that's where the ubuntu mate site says to go14:45
stevenmunder 'Community' and 'Found a bug?' ... the 'View Bug Tracker' points to bitbucket14:46
ouroumovstevenm, it's OK on launchpad too14:46
stevenmouroumov, how can I view open or closed bugs against the software boutique on bitbucket? i don't see an option for that14:47
stevenmi have a 2nd bug to raise too14:47
ouroumovubuntu-mate, hi14:47
ouroumovubuntu-mate, when you boot from hard drive, you should be able to access the GRUB boot menu if you hold Shift or Esc keys14:48
ouroumovubuntu-mate, from the GRUB Boot menu under "Other options for ubuntu" you should be able to decide which kernel to boot.14:48
ouroumovubuntu-mate, then you can use Synaptic once you've booted to remove the offending kernel, then run "sudo update-grub"14:49
stevenmouroumov, actually it seems it is the only choice - bitbucket doesn't have issue tracking turned on14:53
ubuntu-mateouroumov, thanks I'll try it and let you know.14:53
khwouroumov, I was the one with the 32-bit kernel on a 64-bit machine.  Your advice worked, thank you very much.15:25
ouroumovyw15:26
khwI have now downloaded a 64-bit version.  The reason I'm doing this is because my computer reliably freezes if I hold down the CTRl-E command in gvim to scroll down.15:31
khwAccording to the Ubuntu forums, this is a fix for random freezes, where the problem appears to be a broken interaction with the display.15:31
khwHowever, when I install this version, I get a bunch of warnings like this one:15:31
khwW: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/nvidia/gm206/gr/sw_method_init.bin for module nouveau15:31
khwIt seems to me that there are too many to try to update them all.15:31
khwI'm wondering how serious these messages are?15:31
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ouroumovcatoz_,15:38
catoz_10101015:38
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ouroumovPlease stop this noise.15:38
catoz_ok15:39
catoz_My sweet faggot15:39
catoz_:*15:39
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ubuntu-matehi, what does the error message [  109.165510] iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: Unsupported splx structure18:54
ubuntu-mate mean when booting? TIA18:54
mate|26101can someone please tell me how I can get the mate image onto an SD for the PI 3?  Keep getting an error message19:22
mate|26101error is List Index (0) out of bounds using Apple PI-Baker19:30
benoit_hi20:13
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Guest87166Hello?20:54
lenovo_loverHello20:56
Guest87166First time im using Linux.20:57
padgalandwhich distro did you pick to try?21:02
Guest87166Ubuntu MATE. Im running it of a Rasberry Pi 321:03
padgalanddistros*21:03
padgalandIm thinking about picking one of those up to turn into a kodi maachine21:03
padgalandHow is the speed on it?21:03
Guest87166Yeah I had it as a retro game machine using RetroPie but got bored with it.21:04
Guest87166Its quite alright so far. Nothing spectacular, but it gets the job done21:04
Guest87166Im using a Class 10 SD card so its alright21:05
padgalandcool I will pick one up tomorrow or thurs21:07
padgalandI have a couple of pi 1's21:08
Guest87166Perhaps you could help me with something. It seems as if there is some underscan on the screen. I bet this can be dealt with somehow21:09
lenovo_loverPerhaps resolution related?21:13
Guest87166Yeah it's in a real wierd resolution. I'm running it with a HDMI cable in 1824x984 apperantly21:13
Guest87166Refresh Rate is 0hz21:14
padgalandHow do i no longer dual boot but keep everything I have done here?21:28
padgalandfigured it out thank you21:38
abshkdyone here can help me a bit with installing kernel-headers?22:35
abshkdmy uname-r suggests a kernel version that is not available in the official repo22:38
nomicgo to #ubuntu22:41
nomicmore populous22:41
nomicalso ask on forums, ubuntu forums22:41
abshkd@nomic thanks22:41
abshkdwill try that22:42
nomickernel headers is a q. forums will definitely help you with22:42
nomicis obvious thing22:42
abshkdi am only having problems with ubuntu-mate22:44
abshkdworks fine on 16.04 desktop22:44
nomickernel headres23:08
x_:)23:19

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