| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/niaspkr87zalf0d/IMG_20161004_032645.jpg?dl=0 | 04:42 |
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| mapps | hello;] | 04:56 |
| mapps | back fron the usa? | 04:56 |
| daftykins | yep got in on Friday | 04:56 |
| daftykins | cat is happy to have her on site staff back | 04:57 |
| mapps | ;] | 05:01 |
| daftykins | i'm watching a video on how nixie tubes are made | 05:02 |
| knightwise | howdy peepz | 05:21 |
| daftykins | good morning sir, how do? | 05:23 |
| knightwise | Doin ok :) Decided on moving all my "non work" stuff on my work computer over to a vm | 05:25 |
| daftykins | D: | 05:25 |
| knightwise | now tunneling everything via sshuttle through my vm in amsterdam | 05:25 |
| daftykins | what's that include? my mind hops to gaming immediately which i'd consider ruined by virt | 05:25 |
| knightwise | Sshuttle is a vpn through SSH. | 05:30 |
| knightwise | basically the traffic out of this vm is opaque to the vpn of wherever i work | 05:31 |
| daftykins | nah the non-work stuff i really meant :D | 05:31 |
| knightwise | daftykins: well, some of the work I do for my own company (i'm a freelancer) and some of the leisure stuff I do for Knightwise.com | 05:43 |
| knightwise | mostly chatting, surfing, irc and stuff | 05:44 |
| knightwise | just don't want nosy sys admins to snoop around on my traffic | 05:44 |
| daftykins | ah right | 05:44 |
| daftykins | say n'more! :D | 05:44 |
| daftykins | i haven't ventured to anyones yet to resume work! maybe today... | 05:45 |
| knightwise | daftykins: you still out jobhunting ? | 06:00 |
| daftykins | i have a handful of small biz clients already so that wasn't me :) | 06:00 |
| daftykins | rarely a dull moment with this crowd, but i could definitely do with gaining more clients | 06:01 |
| sebsebseb | hi | 06:21 |
| daftykins | lo | 06:22 |
| sebsebseb | daftykins: l | 06:22 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/0eohgbsd9ga23ao/Screenshot_20161004-071737.png?dl=0 looks like my mates wife needs to dust for cobwebs :> | 06:23 |
| diplo | Morning all | 07:53 |
| davmor2 | Morning all you funky people | 08:05 |
| daftykins | \o | 08:08 |
| selinuxium | Hi everyone *waves* | 08:23 |
| daftykins | 7.5 hours until new google phones! | 08:23 |
| awilkins | Gurglephones! | 08:24 |
| daftykins | yep! | 08:24 |
| awilkins | These will be the new, locked-down, consumer/developer phones right? | 08:24 |
| selinuxium | I was going to get a small pocket incendary... Then diceded I might now wait for a Pixel phone... | 08:24 |
| daftykins | i haven't really heard much on the presumed level of locks applied :> | 08:25 |
| foobarry | they looks like iphone/samsungs | 08:26 |
| daftykins | everything looks like everything now yeah, it's quite odd | 08:27 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 08:59 |
| selinuxium | What time is the event? | 09:02 |
| daftykins | 5pm | 09:07 |
| daftykins | however you're connected to this internet thing, you could've... googled it ;D | 09:08 |
| brobostigon | streamed on google's youtube page? | 09:10 |
| daftykins | who knows! | 09:10 |
| brobostigon | lolz. | 09:11 |
| ali1234 | https://events.google.com/io2016/ | 09:28 |
| ali1234 | oh wait that's like the last one | 09:29 |
| brobostigon | io was months ago, anyway. | 09:30 |
| ali1234 | apparently it will be at https://www.youtube.com/google | 09:30 |
| popey | Finding it difficult to drum up enthusiasm for yet more phones and maybe an alexa-a-like | 09:32 |
| daftykins | i think it depends what you're looking for, i've got a Nexus 5 that's received the chop and has been bad at handling calls (probably it got more damaged than just the screen smash when my friend owned it) so i'm in the market - i just want something that gets security updates | 09:35 |
| daftykins | if you're waiting for the next Jesus phone, then... well... yeah :) | 09:35 |
| popey | I switched to CM13 on my OPX | 09:36 |
| popey | only because OnePlus dragged their heels on Marshmallow | 09:36 |
| daftykins | mmm i think my issues are hardware, but i don't think i'd run an alternate ROM anyway | 09:37 |
| davmor2 | popey: what they aren't no nougat | 09:37 |
| brobostigon | i also have cm13 on my nexus4, last version for it from google was 5.-something-or-other. | 09:37 |
| daftykins | N5 just can't hold onto the network in this granite house :) | 09:37 |
| daftykins | ah yeah i used my ol' N4 with a t-mobile visitor SIM whilst in the US, bit chuggy now | 09:37 |
| knightwise | morning everyone :) | 09:38 |
| brobostigon | morning knightwise | 09:38 |
| knightwise | hey brobostigon daftykins davmor2 popey | 09:38 |
| brobostigon | :) | 09:38 |
| knightwise | popey: nice mention about the nextcloud box. | 09:38 |
| knightwise | Do you think the nextcloud project will be stable enough to go for (or is owncloud gonna win ?) | 09:39 |
| * brobostigon uses owncloud, and is happy with its stability. | 09:40 | |
| brobostigon | i see no point in changing. | 09:40 |
| davmor2 | knightwise: who won openoffice or libreoffice? it's down to who gets the momentum and developers | 09:41 |
| diddledan | daftykins: the photo of your cat from 5am this morning looks like she's happy you're home :-) I love kitty cuddles! | 11:22 |
| diddledan | re: owncloud vs nextcloud, I've moved over to nextcloud in the hopes they'll make it work. I feel like the split is akin to openoffice vs libreoffice where the fork is the one people should be using due to politics :-) | 11:24 |
| popey | nextcloud _does_ work :) | 11:29 |
| * popey looks at his nextcloud server | 11:29 | |
| popey | also, where's my nextcloud box | 11:29 |
| davmor2 | popey: there it is | 11:30 |
| * popey phones WD to find out | 11:30 | |
| popey | woot, should ship end of this week | 11:38 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 11:40 |
| diplo | A blog afterwards from yourself popey ? I'm interested | 11:41 |
| popey | yeah, will do. | 11:53 |
| davmor2 | popey: blog it like it is a personal letter to diplo it'll be a nice twist on a blog post :) | 12:01 |
| diddledan | https://9to5mac.com/2016/10/04/touch-id-in-display-iphone-8/ <-- interesting patent application | 12:13 |
| zmoylan-pi | will make it easier for kids to unlock their parents phone when they don't have to get finger onto the fingerprint reader while they sleep... | 12:16 |
| diddledan | three and a half hours till google does its thing | 12:26 |
| diddledan | https://youtu.be/q4y0KOeXViI | 12:26 |
| diddledan | so 5pm today by my maths | 12:26 |
| zmoylan-pi | it's a phone... people are super excited about it? | 12:26 |
| diddledan | how do you know it's a phone? | 12:27 |
| diddledan | it's an announcement event so by definition what they're talking about hasn't been announced | 12:27 |
| zmoylan-pi | people wondering in various irc channels about it sounding odd to depreceate your runaway success mobile platform | 12:27 |
| foobarry | have you guys seen these? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM6z9czN318&list=PL1AXWu-gGX6LNsfQ-KkeGPxL76CFONTom&index=58 | 13:10 |
| foobarry | see you in a few hours... | 13:10 |
| diddledan | foobarry: wow, that's awesome | 14:01 |
| foobarry | also... https://github.audio | 14:01 |
| diddledan | oh nice. that's some ethereal musicy GitHub goodness right there | 14:05 |
| foobarry | also a wikipedia one | 14:05 |
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| diddledan | as google go to the podium, I'm wondering if it'll be "the best phone we've ever made" https://www.cnet.com/uk/videos/the-iphone-the-adjective-iphone-weve-ever-verbed/ | 15:39 |
| ali1234 | "the smelliest phone we've ever smelled" | 15:46 |
| lopta | "The heaviest phone we've ever schlepped" | 15:46 |
| diddledan | ali1234: with "new iPhone" smell or otherwise? (you can get a new apple product smell scented candle now, I read today) | 15:48 |
| ali1234 | wow i know what my brother is getting for xmas | 15:49 |
| popey | make it smell of blown-out candles & matches, recently cut grass, sharpies or glue and I'm in :) | 15:49 |
| * lopta vaguely remembers rubbers that smelled like coca cola. | 15:51 | |
| lopta | ...and erasable ink pens. | 15:51 |
| lopta | ...and the BBC Micro. | 15:51 |
| ali1234 | "cut grass" candles are very common | 15:51 |
| ali1234 | they sell them in john lewis | 15:51 |
| lopta | If I want to smell cut grass I can go out and cut the grass. ;-) | 15:52 |
| popey | It is not one of the 7 days in the year when the weather is nice enough to cut the grass | 15:52 |
| lopta | popey: I get more of those, though when it rains for a while it's almost knee high before I can cut it. | 15:53 |
| popey | heh | 15:53 |
| Laney | meh | 15:59 |
| Laney | just got a letter from virgin increasing the price by £2.99/month | 16:00 |
| Laney | 9% | 16:00 |
| popey | blimey, again!? | 16:01 |
| * Laney checks to see when the last time it changed was | 16:01 | |
| Laney | december | 16:02 |
| Laney | it went up by £2 then | 16:02 |
| popey | mine overs between 68 and 73 quid a month for phone/t'internet/telly | 16:02 |
| Laney | chancers | 16:03 |
| * Laney checks how much infinity is these days | 16:03 | |
| davmor2 | popey: man that's cheap how did you wrangle that | 16:03 |
| popey | was £42.83 in 2011! | 16:03 |
| popey | oh, that was cheapo first month | 16:03 |
| davmor2 | popey: I mean the 68-73 | 16:04 |
| diddledan | I'm with A&A now | 16:04 |
| Laney | caps would make me nervous | 16:04 |
| * Laney has ubuntu & debian mirror | 16:04 | |
| diddledan | :-) | 16:05 |
| diddledan | I'm on their Terry Bite | 16:05 |
| diddledan | Terror Bite? | 16:05 |
| diddledan | Terrier Bite? | 16:05 |
| popey | davmor2: mates rates | 16:06 |
| popey | I can't change anything, or switch from old samsung V+ box or they will move me to normal tarriff | 16:06 |
| davmor2 | popey: ours is £105-ish | 16:06 |
| * lopta fires up xe.com | 16:07 | |
| Laney | guess I should call Virgin and kindly ask them to let me pay less money | 16:08 |
| lopta | I pay about 37 quid per month for about 3M down, 1.5M up. | 16:08 |
| Laney | infinity's still more even after the increase | 16:09 |
| Laney | ;_; | 16:09 |
| lopta | I have to type quid because my keyboard doesn't have a pound sign. | 16:10 |
| diddledan | £££ | 16:10 |
| diddledan | pick one and copy+paste :-p | 16:10 |
| lopta | diddledan: ...and on my screen that shows up as "lblblb" | 16:11 |
| diddledan | haha | 16:11 |
| diddledan | character encoding differences ftw | 16:11 |
| lopta | If I ran one of the newfangled desktops I could use unicode. | 16:11 |
| lopta | ...or perhaps just one of the newfangled terminal programs. | 16:12 |
| lopta | I should buy a roll-up UK keyboard. | 16:13 |
| lopta | Anyway, I should go and find some lunch. | 16:14 |
| lopta | I hope I'll be back shortly. | 16:15 |
| popey | http://paste.ubuntu.com/23275747/ that's how my bill has wavered around | 16:17 |
| popey | davmor2: blimey | 16:21 |
| popey | davmor2: you on XL? | 16:21 |
| davmor2 | popey: 150Mbs, Tivo, HD upstairs, unlimited phone + sky movies | 16:22 |
| diddledan | "best smartphone camera anyone has ever made" <-- BINGO! | 16:28 |
| popey | http://imgur.com/a/HkJPF a graph! | 16:29 |
| popey | Right, I have no Sky Movies, 'only' 100Mb and no Tivo | 16:29 |
| ali1234 | so is this all they've got? | 16:33 |
| ali1234 | a new phone? | 16:33 |
| popey | lulz | 16:35 |
| ali1234 | did they seriously just tout the fact that it has customer support as a major new feature? | 16:35 |
| popey | well, their customer support is notoriously bad | 16:38 |
| diddledan | I haven't seen a headphone socket yet | 16:39 |
| popey | it's square | 16:41 |
| diddledan | yey for throwing it on the floor :-p | 16:45 |
| diddledan | they're getting through a lot of presenters | 16:46 |
| diddledan | netflix in VR might be interesting | 16:48 |
| diddledan | wat. sheep simulator? | 16:50 |
| diddledan | interesting competition against mycroft - the google assistant is going to be embeddable in your own products | 17:24 |
| diddledan | the pixel is £599 for the base model going up to £719 for the top-end | 17:34 |
| diddledan | ref: https://store.google.com/config/pixel_phone | 17:34 |
| lopta | Will those run Ubuntu Phone? | 17:36 |
| m0nkey_ | diddledan, it's $900 here | 17:36 |
| m0nkey_ | so, no. | 17:36 |
| Azelphur | haha dam, Google are really going full iPhone | 17:39 |
| diddledan | I wonder why there weren't any new tabletty things | 17:39 |
| diddledan | the pixel tablet is getting long-in-the-tooth surely? | 17:39 |
| Azelphur | And not only that, but they are seriously crazy on the pricing now | 17:40 |
| Azelphur | http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=7995&idPhone2=8346 why would you buy a Pixel when the OnePlus 3 is half the price and >= specs | 17:40 |
| zmoylan-pi | build quality? | 17:41 |
| awilkins | What about the Wileyfox? | 17:41 |
| awilkins | vs the OnePlus / Pixel? | 17:41 |
| diddledan | I'd not buy the one plus because it doesn't have the google apps | 17:46 |
| diddledan | might as well get an amazon firefone if you're considering that | 17:47 |
| lopta | m0nkey_: Where do you live, our of interest? | 17:47 |
| diddledan | in my basement :-p | 17:47 |
| m0nkey_ | lool | 17:47 |
| m0nkey_ | Yes, there. | 17:47 |
| m0nkey_ | Canada, if you must know. | 17:47 |
| diddledan | oh he must! | 17:48 |
| * diddledan throws m0nkey_ nuts | 17:48 | |
| lopta | m0nkey_: I have family in BC and friends in ON, AB, NL etc. | 17:48 |
| lopta | Never been there myself, mind. | 17:49 |
| m0nkey_ | I'm in QC | 17:49 |
| diddledan | I had family in BC, but then Jebus arrived and moved them all to AD | 17:49 |
| m0nkey_ | diddledan, sure they wern't turned to ON? | 17:49 |
| diddledan | m0nkey_: as long as they don't end up needing a QC I don't care | 17:50 |
| lopta | diddledan: You had me scratching my head for a minute then trying to place the province. | 17:50 |
| m0nkey_ | AD isn't a Provence, it's a Territory :D lol | 17:50 |
| diddledan | lopta: Anno Domini | 17:50 |
| * lopta nods | 17:51 | |
| lopta | diddledan: I did get there in the end. | 17:51 |
| diddledan | odd that we have Anno Domini in latin and Before Christ in English | 17:51 |
| zmoylan-pi | what would before christ be in latin? | 17:52 |
| diddledan | err | 17:52 |
| zmoylan-pi | thus starts the latin lesson... :-P | 17:52 |
| diddledan | ante christo | 17:52 |
| diddledan | maybe ante domini | 17:52 |
| zmoylan-pi | so... anti christ... | 17:52 |
| diddledan | :-p | 17:52 |
| zmoylan-pi | yeah... i can see now why they went with before christ... | 17:53 |
| diddledan | nowt wrong with a bit of devilishness now and then | 17:53 |
| lopta | BCE and CE, in modern academic parlance. | 17:53 |
| diddledan | aye | 17:53 |
| zmoylan-pi | stardate in geekish circles :-P | 17:53 |
| diddledan | seems silly to refer to the same eras as the AD/BC with different names tho | 17:53 |
| diddledan | might as well just use "seconds since the big bang" | 17:54 |
| zmoylan-pi | but that assumes time is a constant which might not have been true at the start | 17:54 |
| lopta | diddledan: When unix moves to 128-bit, we could push back the epoch I suppose. | 17:55 |
| diddledan | of course time is constant! excepting when it isn't, obviously | 17:55 |
| diddledan | we're on 64bit time_t now I think? | 17:55 |
| zmoylan-pi | anyone who assumes time is a constant needs more meetings on their agendas... :-P | 17:55 |
| lopta | diddledan: I don't know what Linux uses. | 17:55 |
| * lopta sighs | 17:55 | |
| lopta | I suppose I should go and visit this customer. | 17:55 |
| zmoylan-pi | linux uses amount of times linus has sworn since the kernel was created so it's 128bit already... | 17:56 |
| zmoylan-pi | the star berate system... | 17:57 |
| lopta | $ date -r 1 | 17:57 |
| lopta | Thu Jan 1 00:00:01 UTC 1970 | 17:57 |
| lopta | I should start writing my birthday on official forms in seconds since the Epoch. | 17:59 |
| zmoylan-pi | in binary | 18:00 |
| lopta | zmoylan-pi: That's silly. I'd use Octal, of course. | 18:01 |
| zmoylan-pi | of course in hex at some point you would be deadbeef | 18:01 |
| diddledan | 0xdeadbeefcafebabe | 18:02 |
| * lopta wanders off to the computer recycling place. | 18:02 | |
| awilkins | 0xdeadbabebeefcafe | 18:12 |
| awilkins | Run by h@nn1balL3kt3r-leet-dude-93 | 18:13 |
| diddledan | hmm, dead babe beef sounds like it's a bit cannibalistic | 18:13 |
| m0nkey_ | Any FPS gamers lurking in there? | 20:17 |
| m0nkey_ | *here? | 20:17 |
| Azelphur | m0nkey_: yup | 20:18 |
| Azelphur | what's up? | 20:18 |
| m0nkey_ | What's a good but inexpensive gaming mouse? | 20:18 |
| Azelphur | haha you would say that, I'm a weirdo and use a trackball | 20:18 |
| m0nkey_ | My Corsair somethingoranother isn't registering clicks half the time | 20:18 |
| Azelphur | but uhh, gaming hardware Roccat give their hardware free to a Linux dev | 20:18 |
| Azelphur | so the support for the gaming features is supposed to be good | 20:18 |
| Azelphur | I have a bunch of Logitech G-Series, which is a PITA in Linux | 20:19 |
| m0nkey_ | These Roccat things look serious | 20:19 |
| m0nkey_ | I only need one macro button :D | 20:19 |
| Azelphur | what's wrong with having more? ;) | 20:20 |
| m0nkey_ | Wow, roccat aren't that expensive, that's good. | 20:21 |
| m0nkey_ | Some are even on sale :) | 20:21 |
| Azelphur | indeed, they aren't bad | 20:21 |
| Azelphur | m0nkey_: but yea, they give all the hardware (even before release) to a Linux dev, and link to his drivers on their website | 20:22 |
| Azelphur | which is about as good as it gets for gaming hardware arrangements | 20:22 |
| Azelphur | in an ideal world they'd...hire the poor fellow, but there we go | 20:22 |
| zmoylan-pi | but that would cost money!! | 20:23 |
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