[04:51] <hikiko> hello
[05:26] <pitti> Good morning
[07:28] <flexiondotorg> Morning desktopers.
[07:59] <willcooke> morning all
[08:00] <willcooke> ZOMG!  Unity 8 & co is not listed any more:  http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
[08:00] <willcooke> and that's good
[08:02] <Laney> ahoy
[08:02] <pitti> hey Laney, morning willcooke!
[08:02] <willcooke> top o the morning Laney pitti
[08:03] <willcooke> I "missed" the Google announcements yesterday - anything interesting or just more of the same?
[08:04] <davmor2> willcooke: they're selling a phone
[08:04] <Laney> hi pitti, willcooke & davmor2!
[08:05] <Laney> seems like Nexus is gone
[08:05] <davmor2> willcooke: it has google stuffs on it, and is designed by google and made by google
[08:05] <willcooke> Looking at techradar now
[08:05] <didrocks> willcooke: you shouldn't have missed the intro though!
[08:05] <flexiondotorg> Morning willcooke Laney davmor2
[08:05] <didrocks> hey guys :)
[08:05] <willcooke> 600 quid for a phone?!
[08:05] <flexiondotorg> didrocks, o/
[08:05] <didrocks> willcooke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZB2s3-Q15s for the conf intro :)
[08:05] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:06] <willcooke> didrocks, lolz!
[08:07] <pitti> bonjour didrocks!
[08:08] <willcooke> didrocks, anything interesting for devs?
[08:09] <duflu> Umm, Ubuntu Touch + designed by Google?
[08:10] <didrocks> willcooke: apart from Google VR availability, nothing I would say
[08:11] <willcooke> I was hoping to find out about the Home APIs, but haven't seen that mentioned anywhere yet
[08:12] <willcooke> I saw on Twitter someone said that Google have said, if people release an app for Amazon's one they will not be allowed on Google's
[08:12] <willcooke> which sounds like bull, but also wouldn't put it past them
[08:19] <willcooke> Oh, they're going to make a wifi router as well?  I think that's where I'd draw the line
[08:24] <didrocks> yep
[08:24] <didrocks> note they already had one :)
[09:26] <flexiondotorg> Laney, I've attached debdiffs for Yakkety and for Xenial SRU to LP: #1576424
[09:26] <flexiondotorg> Open post is prepared for SRU.
[09:26] <flexiondotorg> *Opening
[09:29] <Laney> I'll look later on
[09:29] <Laney> Hopefully someone else will do sponsoring before then
[09:29] <Laney> it's possible to dream :P
[10:04] <davmor2> Laney: did you manage to fix the double icon for nautilus issue and did you want a bug filing or did you do it already?
[10:10] <Laney> What is the double icon for nautilus issue?
[10:10] <Laney> You mean overlapping?
[10:13] <Laney> davmor2:
[10:14] <davmor2> Laney: where you open nautilus from the launcher and it opens under a second icon rather than the one in the launcher
[10:16] <Laney> davmor2: Not here
[10:16] <Laney> (live session and real session)
[10:17] <davmor2> Laney: it wasn't for me but after an upgrade again it is back again
[10:18] <Laney> Try it in a live session, and then if you reproduce it please file a bug with steps
[10:18] <Laney> (bamf)
[10:19] <davmor2> Laney: will do
[10:23] <Laney> r0x0r
[10:23] <Laney> it's disturbing when you get stuck with an unbreakable grab
[11:29] <flexiondotorg> Graeco-Roman wrestling Laney?
[11:38] <davmor2> flexiondotorg: I'm guess cat grip round the arm stopping him from typing
[11:39] <flexiondotorg> ;-)
[11:40] <Laney> send (no) help
[11:42] <davmor2> Laney: Okay
[11:43] <davmor2> Laney: fire up the aquarium html5 demo on a tablet and lay it on the floor the cat will soon be bored with you and chase the fishes
[12:08] <hikiko> didrocks, just for the record I found a solution for my problem with the libcuda1-361 package but it was a hack:
[12:09] <hikiko> I edited the /var/lib/dpkg/info/libcuda1-361.prerm and put an "exit 0;" at the beginning so that the script doesn't run
[12:09] <hikiko> then I purged nvidia and libcuda1
[12:09] <hikiko> and got rid of all issues
[12:10] <hikiko> I ll paste that on #snappy :p I think I'm at the wrong channel again :p
[12:10] <didrocks> ok
[12:13] <hikiko> thanks for the help though :)
[12:23] <didrocks> yw! :)
[12:54]  * flexiondotorg searches for food
[13:01] <xnox> opened unity8 session on my laptop
[13:01] <xnox> gsettings scale factor was not read, no graphical way to change HiDPI setting
[13:01] <xnox> HiDPI was not autodetected
[13:02] <xnox> where can I contribute code for my laptop to work correctly out of the box, with no end-user setup or changes
[13:02] <xnox> bregma, ^ ?
[13:02]  * xnox has a bog standard dell
[13:02] <davmor2> xnox: it's not set currently you have to manually edit a file
[13:02] <xnox> davmor2, even on phones that we ship?
[13:03] <xnox> davmor2, surely there must be a way to programe this in. Why a text file is not generated based on gsettings for example?
[13:03] <davmor2> xnox: by default I think it is set to 1080p iirc
[13:03] <xnox> that's not high-dpi, that's standard dpi.
[13:03] <davmor2> xnox: check in on #ubuntu-unity
[13:03]  * xnox has 4k laptop
[13:03] <davmor2> xnox: indeed
[13:05] <davmor2> xnox: there is a file that I can't remember the path off where you can change the gu which would fix it I think kgunn pointed me at it
[13:09] <kgunn> xnox: long story short, we need work to be done in the SDK to support dynamic grid units...it's on their trello
[13:13] <xnox> kgunn, not sure what do you mean by dynamic.
[13:13] <xnox> kgunn, i know dpi resolution before unity8 session starts, as the desktop lightdm knows it.
[13:13] <xnox> and the .desktop file that starts unity8 can tell it grid unit
[13:14] <xnox> kgunn, having default as high-dpi is also probably more sensible choice =)
[13:16] <xnox> kgunn, how are the phone gu's defined? and can i define my laptop there in the source package?
[13:16] <kgunn> otp
[13:16] <xnox> ?
[13:17] <bregma> xnox, the GU on phone gets set through a device-specific config file that gets burned into the device-specific image
[13:17] <bregma> xnox, on the classic Ubuntu desktop, you'll need to set them manually in your .profile
[13:18] <xnox> bregma, ok, so on the desktop side i can have a systemd generator that will generate one, and drop a symlink in place.
[13:18] <xnox> bregma, no i want to set it programitcally for _everyone_ on the desktop =)
[13:18] <xnox> manually is not good enough, especially non-GUI manually =)
[13:18] <xnox> bregma, where is this config file? I'll write a systemd system generator and upload it.
[13:18] <bregma> xnox, how are you going to do that?  have a daemon running to watch each and every display device as it gets plugged and unplugged?
[13:19] <xnox> bregma, for starters getting gu matches the first display is good enough.
[13:19] <xnox> bregma, no need to write daemons..... systemd units can bind to .device units, and there is such a unit generated for each display anyway. all very declarative.
[13:19]  * xnox has no non-highdpi displays
[13:20] <bregma> sounds delightful
[13:21] <bregma> I think there is some pending work in Unity 8 itself to give better support for multiple hereogenous displays (including projectors) but that sounds like a reasonable short-term solution
[13:22] <xnox> so... where is this config file? and i'll add a systemd unit to generate something sensible, if missing or is pure lies
[13:23] <bregma> xnox, on desktop there's only /etc/profile.d/* and $HOME/.profile ...  on the Ubuntu Touch distribution there is an entirely different startup mechanism that reads Android settings etc. that just doesn't apply
[13:24] <bregma> so I'd suggest /etc/profile.d
[13:24] <bregma> dunno how that will wok with the Unity 8 snap, but I imagine there's a way
[15:00] <Laney> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ct2nGKMWAAApMBv.jpg:large
[15:01] <willcooke> :)
[15:38] <Laney> hey ximion, is there a launchpad bug for https://github.com/hughsie/appstream-glib/commit/f0990480624f7f76f6d82a4d1d7356464e340880 do you know?
[15:53] <ximion> Laney: there is none that I know of
[15:53] <ximion> it's a rather invisible error, but maybe people complain about missing apps
[15:54] <ximion> I remember at least one bug report where someone was only seeing installed apps
[15:54] <Laney> ximion: hmm, there should be a bug to SRU it
[15:54] <Laney> do you know an easy way to reproduce?
[15:55] <Laney> anyways
[15:55] <Laney> uploading to debian now
[15:55] <ximion> Laney: you need to drop in a YAML file with a component which has an empty category
[15:55] <ximion> which never happens if the new asgen is used :)
[15:56] <Laney> yeah yeah
[15:59] <ximion> Laney: we should probably fix the old dep11gen for Yakkety to not make this happen
[15:59] <ximion> would be a rather trivial fix
[16:00] <Laney> could do
[16:00] <Laney> I don't see it affecting us atm though
[16:00] <ximion> I don't know where hughsie saw it then...
[16:00] <ximion> it doesn't happen in Debian
[16:00] <Laney> lies
[16:00] <Laney> I do
[16:01] <ximion> maybe the broken .desktop file which lead to this bug was fixed meanwhile?
[16:01] <ximion> ah :P
[16:01] <Laney>   - ''
[16:01] <Laney> fslint
[16:01] <Laney> Categories=System;Filesystem;GTK;;Utility;
[16:01] <Laney> grr!
[16:02] <ximion> desktop files are a crazy source of bugs
[16:02] <Laney> going to be easier to just fix this ...
[16:02] <ximion> look at the regex we apply in asgen to filter out non-printable characters some people put in there... :P
[16:03] <ximion> desktop files need to be validated more, and more strictly
[16:03] <ximion> but anyway, this one is trivial to resolve
[16:04] <Laney> not sure what the actual problem is meant to be
[16:04] <Laney> with the buggy asglib I can still look at all apps in gnome-software
[16:04] <Laney> even fslint itself
[16:05] <ximion> Laney: I think the problem is just the warning message
[17:05] <willcooke> dinner time, night all