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MarioMeyHello, there.01:45
MarioMeySome days ago, I updated and upgrade this system (my ex's computer)01:46
MarioMeyEverthing seemed to be right. Updated, upgraded.01:46
MarioMeyUbuntu-Mate 14.0401:46
MarioMeyx6401:46
MarioMeyBut, after that, in two times, at boot, everthing seem to be right... till mate-panel dissapears.01:47
MarioMeyfor example, I just booted... and there is no mate-panel01:47
MarioMeyUsing ps -A, mate-panel is there... but it is not visible.01:48
MarioMeyHere is an screenshot: http://pasteall.org/pic/index.php?id=10742201:50
MarioMeyTo make it appear again, I have to kill it.01:55
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mate|62005hello10:52
mate|62005i have a question: does anyone know how to get a dmx6fire pci soundcard working? i tried many things mentioned on the net but no joy so far...10:52
mate|62005lscpi give me: 04:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. Device 1702 (rev 02)10:53
mate|62005but no mention in dmesg, no modules get loaded etc10:54
mate|62005mudita24: no ice1712 detected10:55
mate|62005if i load modules: modprobe ice1712 it loads all modules, but still mudita24 says no...10:55
mate|62005i tried disabling on board audio and blacklisting nvidia hdmi sound10:56
mate|62005if anyone could help me get this thing working, that would be grand :D10:57
mate|62005i want to use it with JACK, so if i need to get rid of pulseaudio, np for me10:57
alisterhello, everybody!11:12
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ouroumovflexiondotorg, in the "Supporting Open Source" section for August on the blog, where you list the devs, "Luke Horwell" and "Robin Thompson" have both links pointing to lah7's profile.12:24
flexiondotorgouroumov, Thanks.12:25
flexiondotorgWill correct later.12:25
bittinflexiondotorg: Blame Wimpy: http://imgur.com/yLl6Tsf.jpg13:59
flexiondotorg:-D13:59
bittinsetup OMV on one of the NAS Debian boxes at work after hearing about you and Chris rambling about it on Linux Unplugged 5-6 times :D, and it got newer netatalk then Debian-LTS aswell so that will help when updating a couple of OS X boxes in a couple of weeks to El Capitan and Logic X instead of Snow Leopard and Logic 914:01
bittin:>14:01
bittinso thank you14:01
bittinsoon time to go home here tough but will look around more around the week14:02
sven__I am very pleased with Ubuntu Mate. Actually it is the very first time that I have zero problems with Linux. Question is: The first boots offered a few bugs like a missing network applet, bad wifi conection or an internal problem. After a few starts and smaller updates nothing left, it is perfectly working and I wish to understand what exactly happened.15:25
sixwheeledbeastI imagine it has updated the drivers for your machine.15:40
hetiiHello :)17:41
hetiiCould someone tell me why I should use ubuntu-mate and not linuxmint, this days ?17:42
Akulihetii, one reason why i moved away from mint is that some of the mint software is pretty poorly written17:51
hetiieg ?17:52
Akulilet me show you17:52
Akulihere's how they write to a file https://github.com/linuxmint/mintnanny/blob/master/usr/lib/linuxmint/mintnanny/mintnanny.py#L11717:52
Akulianother big reason is that on ubuntu i can update my system on the terminal17:53
Akuliother than that, i can't think of anything that ubuntu would really do better than mint. they are just different, and you can use whatever you like.17:55
ouroumov_Akuli, damn that example. o_o17:57
Akuliyep :)17:57
Akulithats mint17:57
hetiiWell, I can image that under python they could use build it methods to operate on file object.17:59
Akulii mean http://dpaste.com/1ABQSAV17:59
Akuliif that's too difficult for mint developers then i really can't trust them :)18:00
Akuliwhat's interesting is that they know how to read from a file anyway https://github.com/linuxmint/mintnanny/blob/master/usr/lib/linuxmint/mintnanny/mintnanny.py#L4918:02
hetiiohh its python3, I didint know that printf can handle now file object in that way...18:02
Akuliworks in python 2 also18:02
hetii*i mean print18:02
Akulifrom __future__ import print_function18:02
hetiiaa18:02
Akuli:)18:02
Akulithe print function is nice, you can call .flush() on the stream automatically also if you want to :)18:06
Akuliprint(stuff, flush=True)18:06
masnellhetii: I would probably explain it more on an approach level. U-MATE takes the Ubuntu base, and adds a value-add Mate desktop (gotta love Welcome & Software Boutique), where as Mint, to my understanding, takes Ubuntu base adds Cinnamon desktop, and rewrites/replaces whatever they don't like - and it isn't necessarily better, nor value add when they cld hv18:09
masnellimproved the original. But gives them the opportunity to do new/better where the Ubuntu way may have proven limiting18:09
Akuliyeah, ubuntu mate and mint both take ubuntu and turn it into something a bit different, mint just changes it more which is why it doesn't have ubuntu in its name18:10
Akulithird reason why i don't like mint: its software is usually a little outdated18:11
Akulinot really a huge problem if you install a newer kernel though18:11
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