[07:43] Mirv, I commented on bug #1435465 to confirm that the patch that you put in silo 2036 fixes the crash reliably [07:43] bug 1435465 in qtbase-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "Alt+F4 crashes app where WebView embedded in a Window" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1435465 [08:00] oSoMoN: ok [08:03] I expanded the full story there, which is a bit unfortunate [08:21] Hi there [08:21] long time no see! [08:54] Hi, does anyone know if it's possible to block phone numbers? [08:57] folf: not possible atm, AFAIK. [08:58] Is it possible to edit the 'hang and send sms' replies? [08:59] Stanley00, that's also what I'm thinking. Just got a call from "windows" and wanted to block it. [09:11] tvoss: today GPS worked like expected. Very odd. [09:13] torusJKL: weird [10:50] hi there [11:53] pete-woods, hey, could you point me to one libqtdbusmock test that fails? === owner_ is now known as Guest49836 === owner_ is now known as Guest31802 === _salem is now known as salem_ [13:50] So my battery died and now on my sim 1 I'm getting "denied" using the BQ E4.5 - can anyone help? [13:53] dual sim? [13:53] yeah but I'm only using one [14:00] helpme45432, hmm [14:11] I fixed it, turned device on put it in airplane mode plugged my sim in and took it out of airplane mode, now working fine [14:20] so [14:20] is ubuntu touch a mod on android? [14:20] or is ubuntu touch a whole OS? [14:20] or is it a framework mod for the Android System? [14:21] it is a whole OS [14:21] :P [14:21] cool [14:21] I am going to port it :P [14:21] it uses some android bits though .. since you can not get drivers that are non-android for some hardware [14:21] :P [14:22] (like ... modems, sensors and GPS) [14:22] that app armor [14:22] is the app framework right> [14:22] no, apparmor is a ytem that prevents apps from eeing bits on disk ... until you allow it [14:22] hmm [14:23] :P [14:23] it a security feature of the linux kernel === dandrader_ is now known as dandrader [14:23] hmm, obviouly my S key is tarting to wear out [14:23] ogra_, hmm, will ubuntu touch also work with 768 mb of RAM? [14:23] I ahve a quad core 1,2 ghz [14:23] have** [14:24] in my phone [14:24] 768 is pretyt tight ... it only gets tested on 1G and abov [14:24] e [14:24] ogra_, maybe I can add swap then [14:24] swap is not the best [14:24] but it should help some [14:25] i wouldnt uggest to do that [14:25] it will be very slow and kill your disk in no time [14:25] hmm [14:25] :P [14:25] my device also has only 4 gb of storage [14:25] swap won't help [14:25] so I need to mount the home folder to my sdcard [14:25] you don't need to mount the home folder to sd card [14:26] ? [14:26] I only have 4 gb of total device storage [14:26] ok [14:26] that is why [14:26] :D [14:26] i don't see what that has to do with where the home folder is mounted [14:26] :P [14:26] apps aren't installed to the home folder [14:26] in the data folder right? [14:27] and you can put all your music on the sd card [14:27] yes ok :P [14:27] where is the chroot located? [14:27] in the system? or the /data? [14:28] sorry [14:28] I am a noob in ubuntu touch :D [14:28] it looks cool [14:28] and the terminal is also cool :D === JanC is now known as Guest96823 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [15:34] i just tried to install on a nexus 7 by following the install guide and it now says "This phone needs restoring from a PC or service center" [15:34] this is what i did: [15:36] fastboot oem unlock; fastboot erase system; fastboot erase userdata; fastboot erase recovery; fastboot erase cache; ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu --bootstrap [15:37] the last thing that ubuntu-device-flash said was "2016/10/05 16:25:57 Rebooting into recovery to flash" [15:37] then the device rebooted to that error message, and ubuntu-device-flash exited with no error [15:38] ali1234: I don't have a nexus 7, but presumably you'll need to supply a different recovery from the command line as you deleted the existing one? [15:39] ubuntu-device-flash booted an ubuntu-themed recovery image on the device. i saw it [15:41] in fact that error message comes from the recovery installed on the device [15:41] Is that from the recovery or the bootloader? [15:42] the recovery [15:42] Hmm. Certainly, my bq phone needs to have a recovery specified if I wipe it [15:43] if i start normally i get the google screen forever [15:43] if i start recovery i get the error message on ubuntu background [15:43] so recovery has been reflashed [15:43] so what was in it before is irrelevant [15:44] i suspect the real problem is that the installer doesn't know how to format system if it isnt already formatted [15:45] ali1234: And this is a 2013 Nexus 7? [15:45] yes [15:46] ali1234: There are a few people on here who use that, so hang around and keep asking. The process seems to behave a bit differently to my phone, so I'm not going to be of any help :( [15:46] why can't i just flash directly with fastboot? [15:46] you dont want to flash recovery, you want it to run started by ubuntu-device-flash through fastboot boot [15:47] i didn't flash recovery, ubuntu-device-flash has [15:47] if you usse --bootstrap it will then foremat and flash the partitions for you [15:47] i did use --bootstrap [15:47] it didn't work [15:47] with --recovery_image= ? [15:47] no [15:47] how would it work then ? [15:47] i used the command i pasted above [15:47] right, thats wrong [15:48] how would it work? i don't know, i just followed the instructions on the wiki after wiping the device [15:48] you want to download the matching recovery separately and point u-d-f to it [15:48] like the wiki says [15:48] why has it flashed recovery then? [15:48] where does the wiki say to download a recovery? [15:48] iirc there was a table on the wiki [15:49] "Working with ubuntu-device-flash" [15:49] somewhere abiove or below that ... [15:49] i havent flashed any phones in ages [15:49] adb Recovery: n/a [15:49] ** Don't have a product spec for: 'cm_kanas3gnfcxx' [15:49] ** Do you have the right repo manifest? [15:49] ? [15:49] I have all the makefiles [15:50] the device has an adb-enabled recovery with ubuntu branding installed on it now [15:50] I ran setup-makefiles and extract-files.sh [15:50] :P [15:50] i have no idea what it is - ubuntu-device-flash installed it! [15:50] i can adb shell into the recovery and look in cache and see the image files and the ubuntu_command stuff [15:51] the stuff that ubuntu-device-flash put there [15:51] the problem is that that stuff does not work [15:51] ogra_, ^^ [15:51] i should try adb log actually [15:51] some help would be thankful === owner_ is now known as Guest86294 [15:58] ogra_: i tried again with --recovery_image and it says "unknown flag `recovery_image'" [15:58] smells like your u-d-f is to old or something [15:59] (dont ask me which one is recent ... i havent flashed phones for a long time, nor done any development for them) [15:59] it is 0.34-0ubuntu1 [15:59] (snappy eats my time :) ) [16:00] i guess someeone from the QA team knows which u-d-f iss recent and from which PPA to install it [16:02] ali1234, add this ppa http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-sdk-team/tools-development/ubuntu [16:02] and get a newer one [16:02] you mean this ppa? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa [16:03] which doesn't contain an ubuntu-device-flash package? [16:03] one sec [16:03] that ppa is mentioned in the documentation [16:04] http://askubuntu.com/a/602037/612 ali1234 [16:04] "If you get this error, that means you are still using an older version of ubuntu-device-flash. Please install the latest version using the ppa" [16:04] maybe? [16:04] ali1234, yeha thats the right PPA and it has a newer version [16:04] ubuntu-device-flash_0.34+16.10.20160805-0~233~ubuntu16.04.1_amd64.deb [16:05] okay i will try it. but what recovery image am i supposed to use with it? [16:05] we may need to update that askubuntu q/a [16:05] the wiki says "n/a" [16:05] what does "n/a" mean? [16:05] i would have assumed it means i don't need to supply one, but apparently not [16:05] http://people.canonical.com/~jhm/avila/ one of those [16:05] for the m10? [16:06] why would i use a bq recovery on a nexus 7? [16:06] oh, sorry, no, you dont need recovery image for nexus 7 I don't think [16:06] I certainly never have [16:06] well apparently i do [16:06] oh? [16:06] because it doesn't work [16:06] nexus 7 flo? [16:06] yes [16:07] well, you probaby dont [16:07] you surely should use the latest u-d-f [16:07] yeah, i thought they were only required by the factory made bq devices [16:07] the problem is probably something else [16:07] right, re-try with the newer u-d-f first [16:07] i mean u-d-f has flashed a recovery into my phone, and it works as far as adb shell is concerned [16:07] the problem is that it doesn't actually run the installer script [16:08] or maybe it does but there is an error [16:08] you didnt touch the existing partitions ? [16:08] what do you mean i didnt touch them? [16:08] u-d-f expects filesystems to be intact on them on the nexus devices iirc [16:08] why? that's stupid... [16:09] on nexus it uses onlly loop mounted files [16:09] i did touch all the existing partitions... i erased them to zeros [16:09] and doesnt trouch the partitioning at all [16:09] heh [16:09] the partitioning cannot be modified [16:09] then format them from fastboot i guess [16:09] it is hardcoded into the bootloader [16:09] it surely can ... with the right tools [16:09] we do that on the commercial phones [16:09] yes, by reflashing the bootloader in the hidden emmc partitions... [16:09] the commercial phones operate differently [16:10] emmc partitioning is done differently on every device [16:10] nexus is the one different one where we decided to only run from loop mounted img files [16:10] to not have to do that [16:10] pmcgowan_: thanks for acknowledging https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/repowerd/+bug/1630382 [16:10] Ubuntu bug 1630382 in Canonical System Image "Awful life battery since OTA 13" [Undecided,Confirmed] [16:10] so make sure to have proper filesystems [16:10] okay, what are the proper filesystems? [16:10] whatever fastboot creates [16:11] iirc there are fastboot commands to format them [16:11] or else ... use the android fash scripts and flash android 4.x, that shoud surey format them [16:12] it doesnt. it flashes raw images over them [16:12] i still don't understand why u-d-f doesn't format the partitions [16:13] it does, just not on nexus devices [16:13] yes, why not? [16:13] you're reflashing the device [16:13] because on them you might actually switch back and forth between android and UT [16:13] you are not [16:13] you only put img files in place [16:13] how is that even possible? [16:14] iu-d- formats all commercial devices but not the nexus ones [16:14] *u-d-f [16:14] anyway [16:14] * ogra_ goes back to do snappy work [16:16] is there anyone here who actually knows how this stuff works? [16:17] ppa:phablet-team/tools does not contain a newer version of ubuntu-device-flash [16:19] in fact it does not contain any version of it [16:20] i'm going to just try u-d-f again having formatted the partitions [16:22] that worked [16:22] i think it did anyway [16:23] the orange bar is getting closer to the end [16:25] * ogra_ prefers whisky bars over orange bars ... [16:25] orange bars are way to juicy :P [16:26] is it supposed to reboot when it gets to the end? [16:26] oo this is different [16:26] yes it is [16:27] first boot can take very long, it needs to generate the apparmor profiles [16:27] it's on language selection [16:27] ah [16:27] well, then it worked [16:27] enjoy === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [16:28] well i found a bug already lol [16:31] wow, that system tray is incredibly confusing [16:34] ugh... this is terrible [16:35] lol the google calendar app tells me to get the google calendar app [16:35] everything i try to do i just get login box after login box [16:36] did you set up a google account in the system settings ? [16:37] the calendar app will use it ... else it will indeed have to ask you [16:37] the calendar app is the one and only thing that doesn't ask me for a login [16:38] when i turn the youtube "app" to landscape i can see the tabs at the top with all the other "apps" in [16:38] okay the email notification popped up and the whole device froze until it disappeared [16:39] i think that's a bug we spotted yesterday where notifications are blocking modal [16:40] huh [16:40] how do i go back? [16:40] popey, note that ali1234 seems to use ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu ... [16:41] willcooke had a unity8 yakkety desktop where the entire UI freezes when the network manager thing was up [16:41] (not sure how outdated that is though) [16:41] popey: when i say it froze the whole device, i mean the youtube video that was playing stopped playing and stopped making any sound [16:41] yeah, because the youtube app went to background [16:42] should be ota-13 according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes/OTA-13 [16:42] so not that old [16:42] Nexus 7 : ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu - flo: #11 [16:42] ah [16:43] well, i havent touched any nexus devices (or the "ubuntu" channels) for a long time :) [16:43] my devices all run daily images and -pd channels [16:44] this user interface is bad... it's a car crash [16:44] nothing makes any sense and things fly around all over the place [16:44] expected it to be a bit weird but not this... [16:45] useful feedback :| [16:45] pfft [16:45] * ogra_ could say the same about android after using UT for 2 years [16:46] i find it completely logical [16:46] but then ... i havent used anything else in ages [16:46] said by someone whom has never crashed a car [16:47] oh, i definitely have crashed cars ... though that was when i was a young kiddo :P [16:47] not you :P [16:47] heh [16:47] well, but perhaps our UI is for old men [16:48] ali1234 might just be to young for it :P [16:48] * mcphail thinks the UT UI is the best bit, so must be ancient [16:54] there are certainly things that can be improved, but overly dramatic "comparisons" to inappropriate things is in no way helpful to anyone [16:54] not like this is a political channel after all [16:55] how to create a stock device tree ? === hasselmm1 is now known as hasselmm [17:01] Tims_Tech, perhaps ondra can help you if he has some spare time [17:01] ogra_, ok [17:09] the problem is that everything is a web app with completely different interactions to the OS itself [17:10] write native apps then :) [17:11] (or use the native ones where you can) [17:11] can i write a replacement launcher app, like i can on android? [17:12] yes/no [17:12] you can write a scope ... [17:13] you can write whatever you want and build your own phone images if you really want to [17:13] okay, but can i reuse the window management without having to use this launcher? [17:14] or do i have to write my own OS from scratch if i don't like one tiny piece? [17:14] well i don't know what you don't like about it; but no you can't just replace the existing one with another one trivially [17:15] i don't like the fact that it has multiple pages [17:15] remove them then [17:15] the app launcher doesn't have multiple pages [17:15] right [17:15] the dash has multiple scopes favorited by default, and you can remove most of them, so that only the apps scope remains [17:15] but you can swipe left/right to other scopes [17:16] when i swipe from the right edge on the app launcher sometimes it takes me to a page with youtube videos on it, sometimes it takes me to a random app [17:16] yeah [17:16] short swipe from right takes you to previous app [17:16] swipe from the bottom, remove the stars [17:16] long swipe opens the app switcher [17:16] then you end up with only the app launcher [17:17] okay done [17:17] swipe inside the dash, not from the edge, will switch scopes [17:17] much better already [17:18] how do i get rid of the giant orange icon that doesn't fit on the screen properly, avertising the ubuntu store? [17:18] i dont think you can easily [17:19] since that is also your only gui way to install apps [17:19] it doesn't even work [17:19] oh wait it's just really slow [17:19] how do i search? [17:20] i keep tapping on the magnifying glass icon but nothing is happening [17:20] it's far too small [17:21] ugh why do i have to sign in to u1 to install apps? [17:21] you can't get rid of the store scope icon [17:21] because you have to [17:21] ondra, hi [17:23] i like how it lets you uninstall things without a login, then you can't install them again [17:23] well you don't need to log in to throw your phone in a lake either [17:24] Good Eve [17:24] Im stuck with my port of UT: I can get adb to work, and it does not boot. Forcing adb did not help much, it simply does not show up [17:25] if I add break=bottom to cmdline adb shows up as offline [17:26] Anyone? === owner_ is now known as Guest94766 === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [17:40] Tims_Tech hi [17:40] hi [17:41] :P [17:57] popey: why did you remove online accounts integration from youryoutube container? [17:58] ali1234: because it forced login [17:58] so people got annoyed when they just wanted to watch "anonymously" [17:59] i see [17:59] google thinks i am using a nexus 5 [18:00] when i sign in to youtube through an ubuntu web app [18:02] this controls that slide up from the bottom of the screen... they behave differently in every app [18:02] ondra, can you help me with creating a stock device tree? We have a cm11 device tree. [18:02] yeah, on purpose [18:02] some apps you can drag them back down to close, others you have to hit a tiny down arrow in the top left [18:02] the bottom edge is developer playground, freely usable for developers [18:03] so thats the ony edge up to the app === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [18:06] Next issue: Cannot find a way how to make libandroid_runtime.so work- ubuntu-location-service.log complains about that [18:06] heh i broke it [18:06] i now have a suspended app on the left bar that is no longer installed [18:07] and no way to get rid of it [18:07] so is it possible to build ubuntu touch from a cm11 device tree? ogra_ [18:07] rsalveti: hello [18:08] Can you update to CM 12.1? [18:08] flohack, ? [18:08] not yet [18:08] cm12.1 is in the development [18:09] I considered CM 11 as a base but then luckily found a 12.1 port for my device - but I think its worth trying [18:10] hmm flohack [18:10] I am working on cm13 for my device though [18:10] :P [18:10] You can try to use ubports tree which is more closely based on CM than current AOSP tree from Canonical as I understood [18:11] libandroid_runtime.so - anyone here knows how to build that? [18:13] flohack, I will try [18:17] Am I missing an entry in manifests for libandroid_runtime?? [18:20] desktop mode works well [18:21] i still have that ghost youtube app [18:21] close button doesn't work on it === davmor2_ is now known as davmor2 [18:24] not sure why that would happen, please file a bug [18:24] i guess a reboot would make it "go away" though [18:25] is there a way to make gmail show the proper desktop version? [18:26] dobey: what do i file a bug against? [18:26] unity8 i guess [18:26] ~/.cache/upstart/unity8.log might have some error about killing that app perhaps, not sure [18:27] no idea about gmail app [18:27] i am pretty sure unity is confused because i installed a youtube app, ran it once, uninstalled it, and installed a different one and ran that one [18:27] hmm [18:27] my cm13 [18:27] not the gmail app, i mean in the web browser in desktop mode [18:27] is giving me strange C errors [18:27] ... [18:28] no, they would have different app IDs; it doesn't care if they are both "youtube" or not [18:28] ali1234: refresh the scope [18:28] what scope? [18:28] davmor2: that's not the problem [18:28] btw it's popey's youtube that did this :) === xiinotulp is now known as plutoniix [18:29] ali1234: well, the gmail webapp, and opening gmail in browesr are basically the same thing. the former just give you a containerized app [18:29] err, confined; containerized might imply something else [18:29] ubuntu-bug doesn't work on the device [18:29] i told it to "open a browser now" and it exited and no browser was opened [18:30] file a bug :) [18:30] lol [18:30] "ubuntu-bug ubuntu-bug" [18:31] but yes, apport really has not been fixed to work properly on such devices [18:32] i thought the magic of convergence was supposed to just let everything work? [18:32] well, since magic isn't really, it doesn't happen automatically or immediately. it requires work [18:33] err, isn't real [18:44] dobey: so i'm writing a bug report against apport, "ubuntu-bug does not open a browser on ..." [18:44] what shall i write for the ...? [18:44] is it still called ubuntu-touch? [18:44] or unity8? [18:44] or what? [18:48] under unity8 session [18:51] https://bugs.launchpad.net/apport/+bug/1630720 [18:51] Ubuntu bug 1630720 in Apport "ubuntu-bug does not open a browser under unity8 session" [Undecided,New] [18:58] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1630724 [18:58] Ubuntu bug 1630724 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Ghost application remains on unity launcher after uninstallation" [Undecided,New] [19:06] okay i made the mistake of opening the weather app and now it takes up 1/3 of my screen whenever in landscape orientation. how do i make it go away? [19:11] why is this thing trying to log into twitter as me? [19:19] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+bug/1630734 [19:20] Ubuntu bug 1630734 in Ubuntu Weather App "Weather app covers one third of the screen whenever the device is in portrait mode" [Undecided,New] [19:20] ali1234: that is the side stage [19:20] ali1234: it's meant to load in it [19:21] okay. and how do you get rid of it? [19:21] ali1234: swipe the left edge of it to the right or click on the app with three fingers and move the app out of the side stage [19:22] ali1234: it's so you can use 2 apps at the same time [19:22] swiping at it did nothing [19:22] ali1234: yes it does [19:22] maybe on your phone it does [19:23] also it doesn't exactly let you use two apps at once... you can only see half of one of them [19:23] ali1234: no on all the devices it does [19:23] maybe it is supposed to... it doesn't work on mine [19:23] ali1234: it does you are probably not grabbing the sidestage but the edge of the app [19:24] what does that even mean? [19:24] ali1234: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JtJeyJniwY [19:25] yes... see how it takes two tries on a 10" device? [19:25] on my device it is completely impossible === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [19:27] ali1234: it's not it is the same sized bar, to slide in and out if you move the app out of the side stage it will show the edge you need to grab [19:37] someone already reported this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+bug/1630734 [19:37]