| knightwise | mornin | 07:30 |
|---|---|---|
| daftykins | good morn \o | 07:30 |
| SuperMatt | 'ning | 07:46 |
| Gargoyle | o/ | 07:46 |
| foobarry | changed firefox to multi process. it doth sucketh still | 07:51 |
| daftykins | maybe a good clean profile is needed | 07:51 |
| foobarry | one of the tabs causing 100% cpu | 07:51 |
| daftykins | however it runs so nice on Windows, seems they just dropped the ball on Linux and mac | 07:52 |
| foobarry | but it still kills whole browser | 07:52 |
| daftykins | err well that sounds like plugins | 07:52 |
| foobarry | don't have many | 07:52 |
| foobarry | ah its also using 5G resident | 07:53 |
| foobarry | it was that "listen to wikipedia" site | 07:53 |
| foobarry | left it runnign overnight. | 07:54 |
| foobarry | hmm or was it | 07:54 |
| foobarry | gaah it was logstash | 08:00 |
| daftykins | what's that? | 08:25 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 08:27 |
| daftykins | \o | 08:28 |
| brobostigon | morning daftykins | 08:29 |
| daftykins | :) | 08:30 |
| daftykins | must head out, first time working since i got back :D | 08:30 |
| daftykins | ooh the pain of it all! | 08:30 |
| brobostigon | :) | 08:32 |
| knightwise | hmm | 08:33 |
| foobarry | logstash is awesome. think searchable unified syslogging across all machines | 08:33 |
| knightwise | popey lied to me :) | 08:33 |
| knightwise | Snappy install of nextcloud on rasp pi didnt work so smoothly | 08:34 |
| popey | hm? | 08:39 |
| popey | I didn't lie. It worked smoothly for me. | 08:39 |
| davmor2 | knightwise: why? | 08:40 |
| knightwise | popey: got some dependancy errors (strange) | 08:45 |
| knightwise | Should have made some screenshos | 08:45 |
| popey | uh | 08:45 |
| davmor2 | knightwise: how did you install it | 08:46 |
| popey | I installed the snap | 08:46 |
| popey | snap install nextcloud | 08:46 |
| popey | End of instructions | 08:46 |
| davmor2 | knightwise: the dependencies in the snap are bundled in there are no dependency issues. Install Snappy Core 16 and then sudo snap install nextcloud | 08:47 |
| knightwise | davmor2: i did do a snap install , but it failed to start the nextcloud services , i'll try again tonight an see what I get | 08:57 |
| popey | knightwise: it takes a little while on first start, some minutes | 09:16 |
| popey | I just tested here | 09:16 |
| popey | (on another pi) | 09:16 |
| knightwise | did you get an error ? | 09:20 |
| popey | at what point? | 09:21 |
| popey | well, no, i see no errors | 09:22 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all! Happy Wednesday, and happy World Teachers' Day! 😃 | 09:22 |
| zmoylan-pi | who put world teachers day in october?! when they can least appreciate it?! :-) | 09:23 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ia-ch8g8c0 | 09:35 |
| davmor2 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib-Qiyklq-Q | 09:36 |
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| diddledan | argh. I'm getting angry reading this ubuntu-devel-discuss thread | 14:57 |
| diddledan | "It's not what I want. make it how I want it. I won't tell you what I want, just what I don't." | 14:58 |
| diddledan | there's lots of bashing of current state but no actual constructive arguments for what to do about it | 14:59 |
| ali1234 | i have a constructive argument for what to do about it | 14:59 |
| diddledan | seems to be a common theme from this xen guy | 14:59 |
| ali1234 | fire the entire phone team and consolidate on desktop and server | 15:00 |
| ali1234 | OR | 15:00 |
| ali1234 | fire the desktop and server teams and concentrate on phone (but that would be suicide) | 15:00 |
| ali1234 | perhaps an even easier solution would be to just make the phone team only use phones to do all their work | 15:02 |
| ali1234 | no desktops, no servers. just convergence | 15:03 |
| Gargoyle | diddledan, is that where general discussions take place for any ubuntu dev? I might want to have a read as I am seriously surprised at some stuff. | 15:13 |
| diddledan | Gargoyle: not sure about everything, but some stuff gets discussed there | 15:14 |
| BigRedS1 | ali1234: but then how do you flip-flop between priorities every couple of release? | 15:14 |
| ali1234 | well you can still flip flop between desktop and server | 15:15 |
| ali1234 | actually that could work pretty well | 15:15 |
| ali1234 | LTS switches between desktop and server focus | 15:15 |
| ali1234 | and they have five year support | 15:15 |
| BigRedS1 | is that what they do, or something you suggest? We stopped using Ubuntu servers a few years ago (12.04?) when it looked like Canonical was all about phones and tablets | 15:18 |
| ali1234 | something i suggest | 15:18 |
| ali1234 | canonical is now all about phones and tablets and server and also the cloud | 15:18 |
| ali1234 | also they still make a desktop operating system | 15:19 |
| ali1234 | also IoT | 15:19 |
| ali1234 | oh and also several different app ecosystems (click, snap, charm...) | 15:19 |
| diddledan | thing is I can understand the desire to be in these other markets. it allows canonical to get some positive cashflow. | 15:20 |
| ali1234 | not if they never finish anything it doesn't | 15:20 |
| ali1234 | i just tried on install ubuntu on nexus 7 which is a reference device and it doesn't even work | 15:27 |
| ali1234 | the installer just exits and the device screen says "this device needs restoring from a PC or service center" on a purple ubuntu background | 15:28 |
| BigRedS1 | yeah, if you're interested in any of those things, it looks like a thing Canonical's sort-of doing but not focussing on | 15:29 |
| daftykins | diddledan: heh what you just described is every day in #kodi | 15:43 |
| daftykins | "this software doesn't read my mind about how i want my media collection, a curse on ye all!" </standard user> | 15:44 |
| arsen | daftykins you tried kodi on an amazon stick? | 17:24 |
| daftykins | yeah, don't bother - full wired LAN model or not at all :) | 17:25 |
| daftykins | actually about to fire up a Rick and Morty episode on mine right this moment \o/ i have the first gen FireTV model | 17:25 |
| daftykins | sad thing is Kodi lost its' android dev, so the platform is in jeopardy too | 17:25 |
| davmor2 | ali1234: Nexus 7 isn't a reference device anymore so hasn't had testing for a while | 17:26 |
| ali1234 | davmor2: the wiki says it is | 17:26 |
| ali1234 | https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/devices/devices/ | 17:27 |
| davmor2 | wiki says lots of things | 17:27 |
| ali1234 | the funny thing is that in the end it turned out that the wiki was correct and all the advice people gave me was wrong | 17:28 |
| davmor2 | ali1234: I'll pass the message on though | 17:28 |
| daftykins | wow an up to date wiki! that's... unheard of | 17:28 |
| davmor2 | daftykins: :) | 17:28 |
| ali1234 | the problem was just that i needed to format system, because u-d-f can't | 17:28 |
| daftykins | so the question remains, if the wiki had the info - why did you need to talk to people? | 17:28 |
| ali1234 | because the wiki doesn't mention that u-d-f doesn't know how to format unfortmatted partitions | 17:29 |
| ali1234 | i had to figure that part out myself though | 17:29 |
| daftykins | ah well at least you can fix the wiki and make the world a better place now | 17:31 |
| davmor2 | ali1234: the nexus7 didn't need partitioning you could just flash from bootstrap and wipe the drive maybe that is the issue | 17:31 |
| ali1234 | davmor2: i never said anything about partitioning | 17:31 |
| ali1234 | it is impossible to modify the partitions on a nexus 7 without reflashing the first stage bootloader | 17:31 |
| ali1234 | the problem is that i did fastboot erase system instead of fastboot format system | 17:31 |
| ali1234 | and u-d-f is not smart enough to format it for me in that case | 17:32 |
| ali1234 | or perhaps the problem was userdata | 17:32 |
| ali1234 | and daftykins it's not the community wiki, so only canonical can edit it... i guess it's not really even a wiki any more, it's developer.ubuntu.com | 17:35 |
| ali1234 | or actually i might be wrong about that.. lets see | 17:36 |
| davmor2 | ali1234: it not only canonical it is ubuntu memebers and canonical and it is locked down because it was getting spammed every two seconds | 17:36 |
| ali1234 | davmor2: no, that's the community wiki you are talking about | 17:37 |
| ali1234 | the instructions i followed are at https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/ | 17:37 |
| ali1234 | the community wiki is now locked down too, so i can't edit that anymore | 17:38 |
| davmor2 | ali1234: well that isn't a wiki that is a website that is controlled by popey and co iirc | 17:38 |
| ali1234 | it used to be a wiki, albiet one that only canonical could edit | 17:38 |
| daftykins | well that's sucky | 17:39 |
| daftykins | i suppose it's not hugely worth resolving issues on such old devices | 17:39 |
| davmor2 | ali1234: no it wasn't it's been wordpress and now django iirc but popey can confirm | 17:39 |
| ali1234 | daftykins: there is no issue, it works fine as long as you format the partitions first | 17:40 |
| ali1234 | it is expected that you just install it over android without wiping | 17:40 |
| daftykins | ah i was getting the idea of an inaccurate guide | 17:43 |
| ali1234 | no the guide is accurate it just missed one crucial piece of information: | 17:43 |
| ali1234 | ubuntu does not work like every android rom ever made. it requires the partitions to be formatted before you install it. | 17:43 |
| ali1234 | and also it won't tell you what the problem is if they aren't | 17:44 |
| daftykins | funny, if i were changing ROM i'd format everything first | 17:44 |
| ali1234 | i know right? | 17:44 |
| ali1234 | well, formatting it is fine, erasing it is not | 17:45 |
| ali1234 | but for example, flash-all.sh will just work no matter what state the device is it | 17:45 |
| ali1234 | that's what the factory roms use | 17:45 |
| popey | ali1234: anyone can edit the wiki, it's not locked down, you just need to be in the right launchpad group - ~ubuntu-wiki-editors | 17:57 |
| daftykins | "diabetes pumps obey unencrypted radio commands" that seems like old news | 18:15 |
| zmoylan-pi | i did like when they installed a pacemaker in cheney they disabled the wireless link to prevent hackers... | 18:16 |
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| daftykins | "replacement galaxy note 7 explodes during boarding of a southwest flight" | 18:23 |
| daftykins | oh samsung, you're in trouble now | 18:23 |
| zmoylan-pi | horribly unlucky for them | 18:27 |
| dogmatic69 | Just found some files that are chgrouped to 'guest-xutdxq' | 19:48 |
| dogmatic69 | any idea? | 19:48 |
| dogmatic69 | google has 0 results for 'guest-xutdxq' search | 19:49 |
| ali1234 | did you log in to the guest account? | 19:49 |
| daftykins | well the second portion definitely looks generated | 19:50 |
| ali1234 | yeah | 19:50 |
| daftykins | so a google result would be quite improbable ;D | 19:50 |
| ali1234 | http://askubuntu.com/questions/337861/why-there-are-many-guest-accounts-on-my-system | 19:50 |
| * lopta slumps across his desk. | 21:35 | |
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