[05:23] <dCLCp> Hello
[08:21] <kagani> wow.
[08:22] <kagani> that hellstorm documentary is horrifying.
[16:35] <Dial-Up> :)
[19:32] <Bomshuan> Hello gigs
[19:34] <Bomshuan> ho know problems with Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter solved or not?
[22:23] <tyrog> What are the main new features in the Xfce apps for Xubuntu 16.10? Any news?
[22:29] <knome> xfce is in the middle of a migration to gtk3, which basically means a "no new features" mode
[22:30] <tyrog> knome: So it means really nothing new? Not even a single feature for any app? Thunar, Mousepad, Parole, etc...
[22:30] <knome> pretty much yes.
[22:30] <Unit193> tyrog: Though you do get bug fixes.
[22:31] <knome> sure, and there might be some tiny new bits too.
[22:37] <tyrog> Unit193 knome thanks. So there won't be new parts from Xfce 4.14 in this one, correct?
[22:37] <tyrog> Mostly bug-fixes from 16.04?
[22:38] <knome> the release will have some upgraded xfce components, but they will not be bringing any new features.
[22:38] <Unit193> Most "interesting" is in a PPA anyway. :P
[22:39] <tyrog> knome: That's exactly what I wanted to know, tnx knome
[22:39] <tyrog> Unit193: which one btw? :D
[22:39] <Unit193> tyrog: It's just GTK3 porting of the GTK2 apps, soo less "feature fun" still.
[22:40] <tyrog> Unit193: How is the GTK3 porting process going?
[22:40] <Unit193> tyrog: Well, it's chugging along well enough, that's what 4.14 is supposed to be.  Just a port to GTK3.
[22:42] <tyrog> Unit193: I know this is a bad question to ask, don't mean to mess with your work, but right now is there an ETA for 4.14?
[22:44] <Unit193> tyrog: I'm not one of the porters, so no issue.  I just package things.  It's not really got an ETA, and if it did Xfce hasn't been one to stick with it.  It'll be done when it's done, but you can generally keep up with either the mailing list, or git.xfce.org
[22:46] <tyrog> Unit193: Thanks for your insight man. I'm just getting started in the Linux/FOSS world and it's really exciting to know about so many projects that I would never know about if I simply kept using Windows.
[22:47] <Unit193> BTW, just because Xfce got no new features in 16.10, doesn't mean other things we include (such as libreoffice, etc) didn't.
[22:47] <Unit193> And sure thing.
[22:48] <tyrog> I mean, small dev teams can create really great desktop experiences when even Microsoft with all its money has all sorts of issues, bad design choices, bad updates, etc. in Windows