[04:26] <guest-cola8m> hay everyone
[08:22] <mate|48272> how to get clip grab
[08:23] <mate|48272> clipgrab please
[08:24] <mate|48272> hello
[11:43] <eightfold> hi there
[11:44] <eightfold> i'm trying to change the title bar color in "TratidionalOk"
[11:44] <eightfold> i've succeeded before, but i can't remember how
[11:45] <eightfold> http://i.imgtc.com/NpJbJ0P.png
[11:45] <eightfold> something like this ^
[11:45] <eightfold> i can't seem to change from the default blue color of the theme though
[14:01] <greenmanspirit> Hello! Where would you all recommend I look for instructions on how to customize a users default profile? I want to use this OS in our computer labs but I want a school image as the default wallpaper. Thanks!
[14:10] <21WAABK0I> hi
[14:12] <ouroumov> greenmanspirit, hi
[14:12] <ouroumov> greenmanspirit, that's a good question, maybe you can ask on the forums? https://ubuntu-mate.community/
[14:15] <greenmanspirit> thanks for the info
[14:17] <alkisg> greenmanspirit: google for default and mandatory gsettings
[14:18] <alkisg> Then run this: dconf watch /
[14:18] <alkisg> Then change the wallpaper and see which gsetting key it is using
[14:18] <alkisg> Finally, create either a default or a mandatory setting for that, whatever you prefer
[14:18] <alkisg> Don't use default profiles; using default/mandatory gsettings instead
[14:30] <greenmanspirit> ok, thank yoiu alkisg
[14:30] <alkisg> np
[15:13] <hp> Hi I want to ask how to set the click of the touchpad
[15:58] <Akuli> hp, system -> settings -> mouse
[17:19] <tiox> Why must lightdm be so hard?
[17:21] <tiox> ouroumov_ any way I could do per-user actions after signin and signoff?
[17:21] <ouroumov_> hey tiox
[17:22] <tiox> Hey there,'
[17:22] <ouroumov_> tiox, I'd say use custom scripts in startup applications, but I'm not sure
[17:22] <ouroumov_> might be a good question for the forum
[17:22] <tiox> That's what I am doing for an instance of xfdesktop right now but I _really_ want to have lightdm handle it just for me.
[17:23] <tiox> Because the ay I have it now uses a shutdown script to handle post-session actions with that desktop.
[17:23] <tiox> When it really needs to be a logoff script.
[17:26] <tiox> Ahh. I think I found something else. UM uses systemd right?
[17:27] <ouroumov_> tiox, all Ubuntu 16.04 use systemd
[17:32] <Akuli> is the poweroff command not in 16.04 anymore?
[17:51] <alkisg> tiox: the best way to do that is with pam scripts, not with dm scripts
[17:52] <alkisg> That way the scripts get to run whatever DM or DE you have... and even if you login with ssh or shell
[17:52] <alkisg> Note though that logoff scripts are *not* guaranteed to run; e.g. xorg might have crashed or the pc rebooted, so the cleanup actions usually also go both in logoff and in logon scripts
[17:57] <tiox> alkisg: More details please?
[17:57] <tiox> I would love t know about these pam scripts.
[17:57] <tiox> And how nonstick they are. (Insert rimshot here.)
[18:00] <tiox> That detail about running with shell, though; I am not terribly keen on that, I am just looking to make a login and logout script for a single user.
[18:01] <tiox> Because of some actions that need to be done with xfdesktop to remember icon positions.
[18:24] <alkisg> tiox: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/136548/force-command-to-be-run-on-logout-or-disconnect
[19:31] <Fozzy> Hello.  I started using Ubuntu Mate at 15.10 and updated to 16.04 (took me a while).  Occasionally I have noticed some glitches with layering where the visible window is not the one that is actually on top.  It confused me a bit at first, and have gotten used to it, but I was wondering if this is an issue that other people have had and if there are any solutions.  Thanks!
[19:32] <alkisg> Fozzy: which window manager are you using, marco with compositing, without it, or compiz or compton?
[19:32] <alkisg> I haven't seen that issue, and I'm using marco without compositing
[19:32] <tiox> alkisg: Good advice and all, reading through it there _should_ be a pam definition for logging out (sshd) but it does not exist. How could I discover which pam.d file i used while logging out of a session?
[19:33] <alkisg> tiox: did you read the answer? It mentions how to do an "if" to decide if it's login or logout
[19:33] <Fozzy> alkisg: It looks like I have marco (software compositor) selected
[19:33] <alkisg> tiox: if [ "$PAM_TYPE" = "close_session" ]; then
[19:34] <alkisg> Fozzy: just as a test, you might want to try it without compositing and see if it also happens there
[19:34] <tiox> Ah,
[19:34] <Fozzy> alkisg: I will try that and see how it goes.  Thank you!
[19:34] <tiox> So a single file can be used for login and logout.
[19:35] <alkisg> Fozzy: in general, bug reports for marco go to launchpad, someone might already have filed one
[19:35] <alkisg> tiox: yup
[19:35] <tiox> I suppose the opposide of close_session would be open_session then?
[19:35] <tiox> opposite*
[19:35] <tiox> Or is close_session some placeholder I am suppose to fit into my setup?
[19:35] <alkisg> tiox: manpages.ubuntu.com/pam_exec
[19:35] <tiox> Thank you.
[19:35] <alkisg> You're welcome
[19:36] <alkisg> "PAM_TYPE, which contains one of the module types:       account, auth, password, open_session and close_session."
[19:37] <tiox> I see that. Thanks a bunch.
[19:37] <alkisg> np
[19:37] <tiox> I suppose this would affect all users, yeah?
[19:37] <alkisg> Yup, and you can also check for the username if you want specific users
[19:38] <tiox> So if I wanted a per-user setup I would need to tell the script to execute script in ~ just to make it easier.
[19:38] <alkisg> It depends on if you want the users to be able to modify those scripts or not
[19:38] <alkisg> E.g. imagine running *their* script as root... :)
[19:39] <tiox> Yeah. That's probably not a terribly good idea.
[19:40] <tiox> I was thinking, now that you showed me that, trying to fit this into the pam script; https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1918649&p=12591743#post12591743
[19:40] <tiox> Albeit slightly modified, and I did want it to be user-modifiable.
[19:41] <alkisg> pam is better than lightdm hooks
[19:42] <alkisg> But of course whatever works for you...
[19:42] <tiox> Not the lightdm hook I am looking at.
[19:42] <tiox> I was looking at what that post is trying to execute.
[19:42] <alkisg> You can also use xsession scripts if you prefer
[19:42] <tiox> Which would be easier to explain?
[19:43] <alkisg> IMHO it's best to select the pam method, even if it takes you a bit longer to implement it as you want it
[19:43] <tiox> Fair enough.
[19:43] <tiox> So what I intend to do now, thanks to you is attemptt o use a pam script to run two execution scripts; one for open_session and one for close_session, somewhere in ~
[19:44] <tiox> The idea of that post is to run a script in ~, which I am sure I could figure out how to do. I am still looking to make this a per-user thing so different users can hav different settings.
[19:44] <tiox> have*
[22:18] <mate|44550> hello. i am currently running ubuntu mate (most recent LTS) on a Macbook Pro Retina and I was wondering how I can make fonts and menu bars larger, or if there's a high-dpi mode available. thanks!
[22:52] <hp> #bioinformatics
[23:44] <judas> what linux kernel is this