[00:00] <k1l> KOLANICH: that is not gpt. its msdos partition table
[00:01] <nick1928> hello, I'm trying to install ubuntu on my mac running os x yosemite. I'm having some trouble configuring the hard drive so that i can install ubuntu from a bootable usb drive
[00:01] <doctor-doom> windows rules!
[00:01] <doctor-doom> jk, dont kill me
[00:02] <nick1928> any advice would be appreciated!
 you wicked twisted boy
[00:03] <nevidimym> oi
[00:03] <OerHeks> !mac
[00:03] <nevidimym> escrevi e sai correndo pau no cu de quem ta lendo
[00:04] <OerHeks> nevidimym, english only please
[00:05] <nevidimym> I wrote and ran dick in the ass who ta reading
[00:05] <nevidimym> I wrote and ran di.ck in the ass who ta reading
[00:08] <KOLANICH> k1l, hmmm, may be. How about this type: empty and the result of parted https://paste.ubuntu.com/23282278/
[00:09] <Bray90820> is there any way to install kernel 4.5 on the live USB?
[00:10] <KOLANICH> and of course it is not 6GiB, I don't know why parted writes this
[00:11] <OerHeks> Bray90820, that would take a complete remastering, you better wait for 16.10 with kernel 4.8 , one week to go.
[00:11] <morf> \o/
[00:12] <Bray90820> OerHeks: Could I do an install of 16.04 on an external usb and update it that way?
[00:12] <OerHeks> Bray90820, i think so, ext usb should work like a regular hdd, just a bit slower
[00:13] <Bray90820> Alright thanks
[00:13] <OerHeks> but current xenial has no 4.5 kernel, you would need the mainline packages
[00:13] <OerHeks> which can break stuff*
[00:14] <Bray90820> I am aware
[00:17] <votlon> How do you guys feel about running webservers on ubuntu over centos?
[00:17] <OerHeks> on ubuntu over centos? explain ?
[00:17] <lordcirth> votlon, what do you expect #ubuntu channel to tell you? :P
[00:18] <votlon> Better pros than what #linux is gonna tell me :)
[00:18] <lordcirth> votlon, my workplace runs all production webservers on Ubuntu Server.  It works fine.  Did you have more specific questions?
[00:19] <OerHeks> oh distro comparison... not going to think about that
[00:19] <orlock> votlon: I find in general CentOS has better QA
[00:20] <votlon> lordcirth: Distro wise, i find ubuntu easier to manage, but is there other factors i'm not thinking about that would make centOS a better alternative i guess was my question
[00:23] <Jordan_U> volker: Questions comparing distros are better asked in ##linux.
[00:24] <Richard_Cavell> please understand that I have the right reasons for asking this. Ubuntu always used to be the most popular distro. Is it on the decline now?
[00:24] <OerHeks> Richard_Cavell, what makes you think so?
[00:24] <orlock> Richard_Cavell: No it didnt, and no it's not
[00:24] <orlock> Richard_Cavell: and popularity contests are for teenagers and politicians
[00:24] <Jordan_U> Richard_Cavell: That's offtopic for this channel. Try #ubuntu-offtopic or ask a direct Ubuntu support question.
[00:24] <OerHeks> heh, silly question in the #ubuntu support channel
[00:25] <Richard_Cavell> Ok I don't mean to be inflammatory.
[00:56] <zartarr> anyone got a coupl of mins to spare, trying to install my printer hp m252dw
[00:56] <zartarr> when i go via add printers it says mfp 176n and i can't find mine in dropdown
[00:56] <zartarr> and when i try to go install hplip
[00:56] <zartarr> i keep missing dependencies
[00:57] <lordcirth> zartarr, are you installing hplip from repos?
[00:58] <zartarr> hey bud i've tried the auto installation and now im attempting; http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/manual/distros/ubuntu.html
[01:03] <fredsua> Does anyone know if Nextcloud Box works with Raspberry pi 3?
[01:09] <SchrodingersScat> fredsua: doesn't it say so in the ad?
[01:10] <codepython777> has anyone gotten X-windows/Gnome working with WSL+ubuntu here?
[01:34] <zartarr> is it wierd i can print test pages
[01:34] <zartarr> but nothing else...
[01:41] <newdimension> I'm trying to install pycharm through umake. The man page mentions pycharm. However when I "umake ide pycharm" it doesn't find pycharm
[01:42] <NoCode> I've installed nvidia drivers, but the "details" window suggests, "Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.8, 256 bits)"
[01:45] <themusicgod1> i have a qualcom qca956/ar9565 wireless adapter in my laptop that works fine...most of the time. About once a week i can all of a sudden not bring the adapter up. It shows as 'unavailable' in nmcli dev, and disabled in lshw, wicd-curses hangs on getting ip address, network-manager doesn't even see my wifi networks. restarting laptop brings it back up. ath9k was loaded during that time. What's the
[01:45] <themusicgod1> next step in troubleshooting this? (it's been doing this ever since i upgraded to 16.04)
[01:47] <themusicgod1> hrm looks like it's updating bios and upstream kernels.
[01:47] <themusicgod1> disregard, keep up the good work
[01:50] <Bashing-om> NoCode: "llvmpipe" is the fallback graphics driver. Let's look at the hardware - lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' - and - sudo lshw -C display - in a pastebin. See what we can work out .
[01:51] <lordcirth> NoCode, you've rebooted since installing the drivers, right?
[01:53] <NoCode> Yes, have rebooted. Brb, pastebin
[01:55] <NoCode> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/17gkTXZM
[01:56] <Bashing-om> NoCode: "Kernel driver in use: nouveau " is the open source driver. What problem are you experiencing ?
[02:00] <NoCode> Bashing-om, Nouveau suggests it provides support for Geforce.  Wasn't sure if was the correct drivers for the nvidia 950 card. I'm also having issues with "nvidia-settings" not displaying settings, or options. It is blank.
[02:02] <Bashing-om> NoCode: well . There is the proprietary driver : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/106780/en-us that nVidia recommends . what release are you running ?
[02:02] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-364
[02:02] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-361
[02:03] <NoCode> Bashing-om, That's currently what I have installed.
[02:03] <NoCode> So I'm guessing something is misconfigured?
[02:05] <NoCode> I have the nvidia 361 package installed from the PPA because I was also having this same nvidia-settings problem with default packages.
[02:06] <Bashing-om> NoCode: According to your pastebin . The nouveau driver is what is installed . nvidia-settings is a component of the proprietary driver . show ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' in a pastebin .
[02:07] <NoCode> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/G2ST57L2
[02:10] <NoCode> Bashing-om, I guess I want the proprietary nvidia drivers to run with the 950. I also want nvidia-settings to work so I can configure my screens. In part, that was also a problem. I had both plugged in and one was blank while the other one was not. So I have only 1 installed right now to figure out what's going on.
[02:10] <NoCode> That led me to nvidia-settings acting all weird.
[02:12] <Bashing-om> NoCode: with 361 installed you have a mismatch for " ii  nvidia-settings                             370.28-0ubuntu0~gpu16.04.1 " . Maybe best to purge all and reinstall ?
[02:12] <loki_> hello! how i can disable wacom settings in system settings? i want set them by myself in xorg config file.
[02:12] <loki_> there is not possible set area, so i want do it by myself.
[02:12] <NoCode> Have already tried to purge.
[02:12] <NoCode> I purged nvidia*
[02:13] <NoCode> Unless I should purge some with some other name, I dunno.
[02:14] <Bashing-om> NoCode: And removed the old xorg.conf file ? then how does nvidia-settings version 370.28-0ubuntu0~ get into the picture ?
[02:14] <NoCode> Bashing-om, I've purged and reinstalled about 20 minutes ago.
[02:14] <NoCode> Not sure about the old xorg.conf file.
[02:15] <NoCode> What xorg should I remove?
[02:16] <NoCode> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/hHD3ANSz
[02:17] <Bashing-om> NoCode: Something did not happen, as the sytem reports using the nouveau driver . I still say purge and reinstall . What release is this and are the approprieate kernel headers installed to allow the driver to build ?
[02:17] <NoCode> I'm on Xenial.
[02:17] <NoCode> I'm not sure if I'm on low-latency kernel atm
[02:18] <NoCode> Yes I am
[02:19] <NoCode> Alright, I'll purge nvidia drivers again. Not sure which xorg packages to purge and reinstall.
[02:20] <Bashing-om> NoCode: Hold on . one purges the driver (module) . not xorg .
[02:21] <Bashing-om> NoCode: Before we purge . check that the jernel headers are installed ; ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' .
[02:22] <Bashing-om> kernel*
[02:23] <NoCode> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/4yyub031
[02:23] <Eli-5dce> hey so lxde logmein hamachi won't install it says it does but it wont show up so i can launch it
[02:24] <Eli-5dce> can't*
[02:24] <Eli-5dce> anybody can help me?
[02:26] <KittyBits> Yo
[02:26] <bigceezy2> anyone familiar with installing ubuntu on an old mac mini?  The installer fails at the grub install and I have been unsuccessfull at getting grub to install via other means.
[02:26] <MrEb> #r3dkat
[02:27] <Bashing-om> NoCode: Yep they are there (headers ) .. what results ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' ?
[02:27] <Eli-5dce> bigceezy : advice when doing that... don't install grub on mac.
[02:27] <cfhowlett> !mac | bigceezy2
[02:27] <Eli-5dce> !mac maybe
[02:28] <newdimension> Is the following a trusted PPA? I see it posted all over: https://launchpad.net/~mystic-mirage/+archive/ubuntu/pycharm
[02:28] <bigceezy2> Eli, if I do not install grub, how does it boot then?
[02:28] <Eli-5dce> just like android it will automatically boot or ubuntu. Grub is optional
[02:29] <Eli-5dce> it either autoboots or you get to have a bootloader for safety select
[02:30] <macbook> Hello everyone
[02:30] <Eli-5dce> bigceezy2 : so yeah just don't install grub so it will auto boot. It should work. Unless the updated ubuntu doesnt work
[02:30] <Eli-5dce> greetings macbook
[02:30] <bigceezy2> the installer crashes at the grub install, even though the files are copied to the HD the rEFInd does not see the partition I installed ubuntu on /dev/sda4
[02:30] <macbook> Greetings
[02:30] <NoCode> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/5Vs3XK1x -- I'll restart in the meantime and see. Brb.
[02:31] <Eli-5dce> bigceezy2 : what version of ubuntu are you installing?
[02:31] <Eli-5dce> 16.04LTS?
[02:31] <bigceezy2> 16.04.1
[02:32] <Eli-5dce> download 13.10 first and start working up the line until you reach the update
[02:32] <Ben64> no no no no
[02:32] <OerHeks> ugh bad advise, 13.10 is eol and servers are offline
[02:33] <NoCode> Bashing-om, Be right back.
[02:33] <Eli-5dce> OerHeks : wait what? you should be able to do software updates still
[02:33] <cfhowlett> terrible advice
[02:33] <cfhowlett> Eli-5dce, 13.10 is dead and no longer supported.
[02:33] <OerHeks> i just read more bad advise of you, Eli-5dce ..
[02:34] <OerHeks> No, no more updates for 13.10.
[02:34] <bigceezy2> what version should i try then?...and 32bit or 64bit?  This is a core 2 duo, but I am told that the efi is 32bit
[02:35] <Eli-5dce> OerHeks : thanks, i'm in the learning proccess i just wanted to see if i could put my knowledge to the test. imma leave
[02:35] <cfhowlett> bigceezy2, pretty sure that NO 32bit runs on efi
[02:35] <OerHeks> Eli-5dce, it is oke to hang around, and help if you can, but be sure of your answers.
[02:36] <TrunkleBob> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++-.
[02:37] <TrunkleBob> 699999999999999999999999999999999999+++++++++++++++
[02:37] <Eli-5dce> OerHeks: sorry i didn't mean USE 13.10 or 13.04.
[02:37] <cfhowlett> TrunkleBob, stop please
[02:37] <Eli-5dce> OerHeks: i tried my best
[02:37] <schism> anyone know how to install multiple iso files to a thumbdrive and select which one to boot from when you boot from the thumbdrive?  been googleing it but most of them look a bit fishy or are windows only
[02:37] <Eli-5dce> schism i do know that answer
[02:38] <OerHeks> schism, yumiboot
[02:38] <OerHeks> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[02:38] <TrunkleBob> Sorry everyone... cleaning keyboard, didn't realize window had focus
[02:38] <Eli-5dce> dangit
[02:39] <schism> thanks OerHeks
[02:40] <NoCode> Hi Bashing-om It seems these current drivers fail. I'm stuck in a login loop.
[02:40] <NoCode> Currently running in irssi right now.
[02:41] <Bashing-om> NoCode: Yuk .. how many PPA driver sources do you have as 370 is only availanle from PPA  ?
[02:42] <schism> OerHeks, it only has a windows exe does it run under wine?
[02:43] <NoCode> Bashing-om: Just tried to log into MATE. I logged in, but Windows Borders do not appear. I forget the name. Let me check on the 370 availability.
[02:43] <Eli-5dce> schism : if
[02:44] <OerHeks> schism, you are right, 'Linux Based YUMI: YUMI for Linux version was broken and is being rewritten.' ... sorry for the inconvenience
[02:44] <Bashing-om> NoCode: I bet if we read the /var/log/Xorg.0.log log file, we see that the driver is built . we start looking for "something else " .
[02:44] <OerHeks> this must been recently added.
[02:45] <schism> OerHeks, no worries I will give it a shot under wine.  worse case I can see if the version of windows on this netbook still even boots lol
[02:46] <NoCode> Bashing-om: I just enabled that one source from the PPA. Also, my friend said earlier that 361 is only working "properly" with that PPA currently. What should I do next? Remove the PPA, purge again for reinstall?
[02:48] <Bashing-om> NoCode: Well; the system liked 370 I have yet to encounter where 370 was not functional when chossen . time to read the directions and read the log file ^ .
[02:48] <Eli-5dce> i used to know stuff... i need to go back to fedora. i clearly know nothing as much as a know redhat and fedora later i might be back later for help
[02:49] <NoCode> Bashing-om: Okay, put it in pastebin. brb
[02:50] <NoCode> Bashing-om: How should I review it?
[02:51] <johnny1126> change a channel
[02:52] <Bashing-om> NoCode: cat in this instance will suffice  to read or transfer the file to a pastebin site .
[02:53] <Bashing-om> NoCode: ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit ' will do the job .
[02:56] <NoCode_> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/fE3AqyQu
[02:56] <Bashing-om> NoCode_: reading.,  I eill nbe awhile .
[02:57] <NoCode_> Bashing-om, Okay, thank you for the help. You're awesome, man.
[02:57] <NoCode_> Bashing-om, I'll be right here. :)
[02:58] <OerHeks> I think with that 950 nvidia, you would need 16.04 with a 4.x kernel ?
[03:00] <Bashing-om> NoCode_: Ouch ! " 28.804] (EE) NVIDIA: Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module. Please see the ..... " still reading .
[03:01] <OerHeks> Bashing-om, linux-headers missing?
[03:03] <NoCode_> oof
[03:03] <viktor133> Hi all. my lenses aren't working. specifically, music and pictures aren't giving any results, files&folders, video only previously opened files. any help is much appreciated, thanks!
[03:04] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: Nope checked that qst off .. and then we have " 28.996] (EE) modeset(0): eglInitialize() failed ; 28.996] (EE) modeset(0): glamor initialization failed " getting above my pay grade !
[03:05] <NoCode_> Bashing-om, I'm sorry. :(
[03:06] <OerHeks> maybe nomodeset does something good?
[03:07] <OerHeks> viktor133, did you change settings in systemsettings > privacy  > files & applications ?
[03:08] <viktor133> OerHeks, you mentioned this before, the settings there are okay, all "included" boxes ticked, only one folder exluded (lower level)
[03:11] <OerHeks> viktor133, oh yes i did. another option would be scanning your drive to update the locate database, sudo updatedb
[03:11] <OerHeks> ( this can take a while)
[03:12] <Bashing-om> NoCode_: OerHeks Well above my skill set - "  28.869] (EE) Unknown chipset: NV126 " HUH ?? .. Bit we can kee[ poking at this ans see what we can learn . as advised look at the system log file .
[03:12] <viktor133> OerHeks: do i need to reboot after?
[03:13] <OerHeks> viktor133, no, no need for reboot. locate uses a database, find does it realtime.
[03:13] <jose__> python is installed by default on ubuntu? if not how i can install it?
[03:13] <cfhowlett> jose__, installed by default
[03:13] <OerHeks> jose__, 16.04 got python2 and python3
[03:14] <jose__> k thanks :D, but how can i open it?
[03:14] <cfhowlett> jose__, open terminal.  type python.  press <enter>
[03:14] <OerHeks> in terminal: python ( for python2)  or python3
[03:15] <jose__> yeah it worked, thanks you all
[03:15] <viktor133> OerHeks: doesn't seem to do anything... also, it's instant (running the command and getting back to the next prompt i mean)
[03:16] <OerHeks> viktor133, now i am out of ideas :-( , where is your music stored, 2nd hdd ?
[03:17] <viktor133> OerHeks: only 1 hdd
[03:17] <HappyHobo> Hello folks.
[03:18] <NoCode_> Bashing-om, Should I be looking at /var/log/syslog? Trying to copy to file, and open but encoding is wrong. :|
[03:19] <Bashing-om> NoCode_: Yeah syslog is what I had in mind .
[03:19] <OerHeks> " Music lens works with the music library files that rhythmbox generates in ~/.local/rhythmbox/ " here it works fine ( only clementine musicplayer) but takes a 10 seconds to react
[03:20] <viktor133> OerHeks: deleted rythmbox and installed clementine straight after installing the system
[03:21] <NoCode_> Bashing-om, Not sure what to do about that error.
[03:21] <NoCode_> Way too log to copy from window as well.
[03:21] <NoCode_> Long.
[03:22] <HappyHobo> I need help resetting my hidden configuration files for mate.
[03:22] <viktor133> OerHeks: i only seem to have "share" in ~/.local/
[03:22] <HappyHobo> I went into the file manager and checked the box for hidden.  I deleted gtk 2 and gtk 3.
[03:22] <Bashing-om> NoCode_: will 'less' deal with that large file ?
[03:22] <OerHeks> viktor133, just found this post @ askubuntu, not sure this is the right way to do it, but should do no harm > http://askubuntu.com/questions/763015/video-music-and-photo-lenses-show-no-results
[03:23] <HappyHobo> I don't want to over delete.
[03:24] <macbook> Guys, I need your opinions.  Is a Sata I SSD worth replacing with a Sata II on a 2009 Macbook (sata2 bus)?  It does support the higher speed, but idk if it will be noticable
[03:26] <viktor133> OerHeks: the second command gives a lot of feedback, as well as errors and warns
[03:26] <Bashing-om>  NoCode_ I am also wondering if the X stack is messed up ..  maybe reinstall all the components ?
[03:27] <viktor133> OerHeks: doesn't do anything either, will reboot to check
[03:28] <viktor133> OerHeks: just see last command made my sys tray dissappear
[03:28] <NoCode_> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg"?
[03:31] <NoCode_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:31] <NoCode_> I'll try that.
[03:31] <Bashing-om> NoCode_: Honestly, I do not know . can not hurt any more to try to re-configure .. but I did have in mind ' sudo apt install --install-recommends linux-generic xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-input-all libwayland-egl1-mesa ' .
[03:32] <NoCode_> Okay, I'll try that.
[03:33] <viktor133> OerHeks: still nothing... any thing else i could try?
[03:33] <NoCode_> Bashing-om, That didn't install anything. I'm not sure.
[03:33] <NoCode_> Maybe I'll reinstall Ubuntu?
[03:34] <NoCode_> It is an old install.
[03:34] <NoCode_> I've had it going probably for almost a year. Though, had it off for 6 months.
[03:34] <NoCode_> I dunno.
[03:35] <NoCode_> (Old. For me at least)
[03:35] <werdfriek> Hi,  I installed qt sdk earlier (I though) but I'm not sure if it installed properly.  I had installed it before  - a couple weeks ago - and there was a "linguist" and some other program (total of 4 programs).  Now, after a fresh install on ubuntu 16.04, I only have creator and maintenance tool.
[03:35] <viktor133> hi all. got a problem with lenses. files&folders, videos only showing previously opened files. Music and pictures not showing anything at all. any ideas? thanks.
[03:35] <Bashing-om> NoCode_: At this point a fresh install will be the fastest solution . Though it diews not step us up the linux learning curve ,
[03:36] <Bashing-om> does**
[03:37] <werdfriek> So I'm wondering what happened? What's the difference? And, why does it say "based on" in the versioning information of my install?  - http://imgur.com/a/NI9Mg
[03:38] <NoCode_> On this specific installation, I also had a 760 installed. It blew up(from hardware malfunction(USB card caught fire resulting in the live power wire arcing on the 760's PCB)). So I rebuilt with a new mobo, GPU, case, PSU.  Leaving CPU, RAM, HDDS intact.
[03:38] <NoCode_> Guess I'll back up some stuff, and reinstall.
[03:39] <NoCode_> Anything we've done, is again way further than anything I could have diagnosed.
[03:41] <NoCode_> Bashing-om, Thanks a lot for the help at least.
[03:42] <Bashing-om> NoCode_: Ouch ! prior to re-installing , Make sure all is good in the live environment on " try ubuntu " mode .
[03:42] <abma> oi
[03:44] <NoCode_> Bashing-om, K
[03:45] <NoCode_> Blasted hell, I should go back Debian. I'm not sure if it's worth the effort though, or if nvidia drivers are as easy to install with all the prettification like in Ubuntu. It's been a while.
[03:46] <Bashing-om> NoCode_: However, of ya have the time . there are others here wuth the greater knowledge that might take an interest in this .
[03:47] <NoCode_> I'm willing to try some things if people are interested in telling me what to do. :)
[03:49] <Bashing-om> NoCode_: Sttll, while waiting . boot up a live USB and make sure is good there .
[03:49] <Bashing-om> still*
[03:50] <NoCode_> ok
[03:53] <NoCode_> 5 MB/s the heck. Fastest torrent, ever.
[04:08] <viktor133> hi all. got a problem with lenses. files&folders, videos only showing previously opened files. Music and pictures not showing anything at all. any ideas? thanks.
[04:12] <linocisco> hi all, my ubuntu Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS has problem shutting down, it took so longer than 5 mins
[04:14] <n-iCe> anyone using a ssd and a hd at the same time in the pc? thanks.
[04:15] <Bashing-om> n-iCe: Many are, what is your ubuntu qyestion ?
[04:16] <NoCode_> n-iCe, Yeah, of course. It's just storage. One is faster than the other.
[04:18] <n-iCe> Bashing-om: the correct partition to them, some say, install all to ssd, some say, install /boot and /root in ssd, everything else to sata hd
[04:19] <Bashing-om> n-iCe: Now-a-days the technology has developed . makes no difference if your concern is many writes .
[04:19] <davido> I use my SSD as the majority of my filesystem's destinations, and my spindle HD for media storage (photo, video, music).
[04:20] <n-iCe> awesome, thanks.
[04:20] <n-iCe> Yeah, I was worried, people and forums says a lot haha
[04:21] <Bashing-om> n-iCe: SSDs have come a long way .. real quick .
[04:21] <n-iCe> New laptop, so want to make sure, by the way, installing lubuntu, xubuntu, etc, will do the same installation proccess than ubuntu?
[04:21] <cfhowlett> n-iCe, yes.
[04:21] <davido> if you have a good backup plan then the only thing to worry about is the cost of replacement after enough years that you won't care anyway
[04:21] <n-iCe> Bashing-om: I'm loving mine, will not regret, did a big upgrade to a 12gb ram, 250ssd 500satahd and i7 3er gen
[04:22] <n-iCe> for a laptop, I thikn that's good.
[04:22] <jeno> nice
[04:22] <Bashing-om> n-iCe: Installs are all the same .. in the respective fenre . as in desktop or server ...
[04:22] <n-iCe> Bashing-om: thank you.
[04:22] <n-iCe> Bashing-om: you use Unity?
[04:22] <jeno> what laptop do you use n-iCe
[04:23] <Bashing-om> n-iCe: No unity .. my GUI preference is xfce .
[04:24] <n-iCe> Bashing-om: ok, xubuntu
[04:24] <n-iCe> clear
[04:24] <Bashing-om> !minimal | n-iCe
[04:25] <n-iCe> jeno http://paste.ubuntu.com/23282979/
[04:26] <n-iCe> he parted
[04:26] <n-iCe> Bashing-om: does minimal have graphical installer?
[04:27] <linocisco> what is the best pdf editor which can add image and text to pdf without changing the layout of existing contents?
[04:29] <n-iCe> Bashing-om: do you usually use / /boot /home /swap ?
[04:29] <cfhowlett> linocisco, "best" is subjective and you must decide.  GIMP can do it.
[04:30] <linocisco> cfhowlett, thanks
[04:30] <cfhowlett> happy2help! linocisco
[04:30] <linocisco> cfhowlett, let me try how to
[04:34] <Bashing-om> n-iCe: My system partitions: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23282996/ .
[04:36] <n-iCe> Bashing-om: can you sudo lsblk | pastebinit
[04:36] <n-iCe> pls
[04:36] <n-iCe> Bashing-om: what do you think http://paste.ubuntu.com/23282997/
[04:38] <Backwards> n-iCe that is a small hard drive.
[04:38] <davido> not for a laptop.
[04:38] <Bashing-om> n-iCe: A separate boot partition is no longer endorsed in a standard install . Will lead ya unto trouble if you do not know what you are doing .
[04:39] <davido> i mean sure, plenty of laptops have 1g or sometimes more, but it all depends on what you use it for
[04:39] <davido> sorry, 1T
[04:39] <n-iCe> Bashing-om: small?
[04:39] <n-iCe> 256GB SSD and 500GB HD SATA
[04:40] <n-iCe> I think I'm not even using more than 10GB :p
[04:40] <n-iCe> Bashing-om: can we actually install boot and home in / all togheter?
[04:40] <Backwards> You can boot from a USB drive that is in the terabytes.
[04:40] <Bashing-om> n-iCe: How much ran do you have, and do you untend to be able to hybernate ?  - swap partition then is required .
[04:41] <n-iCe> Bashing-om: 12GB I don't hibernate
[04:41] <Backwards> Depends on if the BIOS will support it.
[04:41] <Bashing-om> n-iCe: ^ that is what the install wizard will do . all in one partition .
[04:43] <n-iCe> Bashing-om: really???
[04:43] <Backwards> Not all BIOS will support the latest Terabyte drives.
[04:43] <n-iCe> damn
[04:44] <n-iCe> I thought Ubuntu installer do what I manually did
[04:45] <n-iCe> dammit, now you are making me reinstall all
[04:47] <Backwards> n-iCe if you msg me I can help you maybe step by step if you want.
[04:47] <Bashing-om> n-iCe: Not that big of a deal to re-do .. when ya know a better :)
[04:49] <davido> I tend to commit dotfiles to repos, keep personal stuff on the big media drive and in the cloud.  ...the hardware of my various workstation(s) becomes kind of commodity after that. tearing down, staring over, etc. is not that big of a dea.
[04:56] <Bashing-om> NoCode: And the verdict is ?
[04:57] <NoCode> Bashing-om, I'm just dd'ing the image to USB currently.
[04:57] <Bashing-om> NoCode: K, jury remains out .
[04:59] <NoCode> I shall restart into live environment right now. But I should backup some stuff. That way I can fuss around on the live cd. Then reinstall as needed. hrm.
[05:00] <bugmagnet> hello
[05:00] <northcode> hey guys, I think theres something wrong with the mariadb-server package. Anyone else notice anything strange?
[05:01] <bugmagnet> is there anything more low-level that dd?
[05:01] <northcode> do you need anything more low level than dd?
[05:02] <bugmagnet> here's the story: client presents with a usb device that won't mount. my xenial laptop acknowledges the presence of the device. Disks says there's nothing to mount. I just want a binary dump of the contents and will use photorec to recover what may be recoverable
[05:03] <Bashing-om> NoCode: Good back ups are *always* a good thing .
[05:03] <bugmagnet> because it won't mount, dd won't touch it
[05:04] <northcode> it won't mount? what won't mount, the partition? are you sure you have a filesystem on it?
[05:04] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, shoot, BAD backups are better than no backups.
[05:05] <northcode> I think you can use dd on the entire disk file
[05:05] <northcode> something like dd if=/dev/sdb of=diskfile bs=4M
[05:06] <northcode> tho beware this will make a file that is the same size as the entire disk, empty space and all
[05:07] <northcode> anyone else having dpkg configure issues when upgrading mariadb-server-10 ?
[05:08] <bugmagnet> there may have been a file system on it at one time. Whether it has one now is moot. dd can't see it because it won't mount
[05:08] <bugmagnet> thus my question re lower-level access
[05:08] <northcode> you see the device with lsblk right?
[05:08] <bugmagnet> yes, lsblk says it's there
[05:08] <northcode> like there is a /dev/sdX or whatever
[05:08] <northcode> is there a partition too or just a device?
[05:08] <bugmagnet> yep, /dev/sdb
[05:09] <northcode> like is there a /dev/sdb1 or something?
[05:11] <bugmagnet_> right, i take that back. lsblk doesn't see it
[05:12] <bugmagnet_> (i'm talking from the xenial box now rather than windoze)
[05:12] <bugmagnet_> lsusb says: Bus 001 Device 013: ID 1307:0163 Transcend Information, Inc. 256MB/512MB/1GB Flash Drive
[05:13] <northcode> aha
[05:13] <northcode> if its not recognized as a storage device dd won't be of much help I don't think
[05:14] <bugmagnet_> now, it hasn't been
[05:14] <bugmagnet_> dmesg says
[05:14] <bugmagnet_> [ 8039.621420] usb 1-1.1: New USB device found, idVendor=1307, idProduct=0163
[05:14] <bugmagnet_> [ 8039.621430] usb 1-1.1: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0
[05:14] <bugmagnet_> [ 8039.622037] usb-storage 1-1.1:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
[05:14] <bugmagnet_> [ 8039.623368] scsi host18: usb-storage 1-1.1:1.0
[05:14] <bugmagnet_> [ 8040.622603] scsi 18:0:0:0: Direct-Access     USBest   USB2FlashStorage 0.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
[05:15] <northcode> hm, I mean it detects that it is storage
[05:15] <northcode> but it doesn't make the /dev/sdX file?
[05:16] <bugmagnet_> are you asking if sdb exists in /dev? it does
[05:17] <northcode> well do you have 2 hard drives?
[05:17] <bugmagnet_> SG_IO: bad/missing sense data, sb[]:  70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0a 00 00 00 00 3a 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[05:17] <bugmagnet_> no
[05:17] <northcode> so sda would be the pc drive?
[05:17] <bugmagnet_> that last bit was from 'hdparm /dev/sdb'
[05:17] <bugmagnet_> yes, sda is the main hard drive in this toshiba satellite l750
[05:18] <northcode> ok..
[05:18] <northcode> whats the output of lsblk and blkid?
[05:20] <bugmagnet_> NAME   MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
[05:20] <bugmagnet_> sda      8:0    0 596.2G  0 disk
[05:20] <bugmagnet_> ├─sda1   8:1    0 592.2G  0 part /
[05:20] <bugmagnet_> └─sda5   8:5    0     4G  0 part [SWAP]
[05:20] <bugmagnet_> sr0     11:0    1  1024M  0 rom
[05:20] <bugmagnet_> for lsblk
[05:21] <northcode> ahm then I'm guessing blkid is about the same
[05:21] <northcode> but if you have a /dev/sdb
[05:21] <northcode> you might be able to use ddrescue on it
[05:21] <northcode> or just regular dd
[05:21] <northcode> and then run testdisk on that
[05:22] <northcode> How big is the drive?
[05:22] <northcode> or stick
[05:26] <northcode> bugmagnet_: do you know how big the drive is?
[05:26] <cfhowlett> northcode, he's gone/banned
[05:26] <northcode> oh
[05:27] <northcode> can I ask why he was banned?
[05:27] <cfhowlett> idk
[05:27] <northcode> well thats dandy :P
[05:28] <northcode> but anyway, I tried upgrading my 16.04 server today, and mariadb-server-10 "fails" to upgrade
[05:28] <cfhowlett> northcode, #ubuntu-server         might be a better audience
[05:29] <northcode> ah
[05:29] <northcode> right, sorry, I presumed this was all things ubuntu but I guess its more desktop oriented
[05:29] <northcode> thanks
[05:29] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[05:42] <NoCode> Man, that was crazy. the dd didn't work. Mind you first time using/ adjusting boot order with this motherboard so it was all out of whack. Anyway. No graphics installed, this installation is using: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.8, 256 bits)
[05:43] <NoCode> Now, I am still in the live environment, I will install the nvidia drivers to see if we have the same problem.
[05:44] <NoCode> Should I also enable the PPA?
[05:44] <NoCode> Or just use default installation righht now?
[05:45] <NoCode> Shoot me in the foot, now I forget his nickname.
[05:47] <NoCode> hrm. While installing in the live environment... if I install these drivers, how will the live environment notice I have this installed, if installed in RAM?
[05:47]  * NoCode scratches his head
[05:50] <Guest2053> NoCode try modprobe?
[05:53] <hateball> NoCode: Didnt you have your machine installed yesterday? What's the issue?
[05:54] <NoCode> hateball: Graphics card issue still.
[05:54] <NoCode> GPU*
[05:54] <hateball> NoCode: did you try using the nvidia-370 ? I can't recall
[05:54] <NoCode> Can't remember the name of the dude who was helping me. :P
[05:55] <iwright> anyone enjoy helping with fixing nuked repositories? :(
[05:55] <NoCode> Yes, that was the current situation. Even tried 361. Both from PPA.
[05:55] <iwright> an old laptop of ours was upgraded to 15.10 from 14.04 LTS, and we seriously just need to install skype on a worker's machine for tomorrow -.-
[05:55] <iwright> and i'm stuck with this -.-
[05:55] <iwright> NoCode, sweeet @.@
[05:56] <iwright> NoCode, what would you suggest as a general way to start repairing it?
[05:56] <iwright> for example, i have no idea what the previous admin did that screwed up these local packages
[05:56] <NoCode> Do you really want to know? Actually, no. I have no idea.
[05:57] <iwright> but i do know that i cannot do sudo apt-get install skype without running into all sorts of stuff.....
[05:57] <iwright> first thing i get is, "the following packages have unmet dependencies, skype: depends: skype-bin , E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages"
[05:57] <iwright> how can i find these "broken" packages and fix them?
[06:01] <surya> hello
[06:02] <noob56k> hello Guest56912
[06:02] <Guest56912> how i change my nickname ?
[06:04] <iwright> use /nick [name-here]
[06:04] <iwright> dayum, seeing something like this scares the crap out of me...
[06:04] <iwright> "The following extra pavckages will be installed..."
[06:04] <iwright> gcc-5-base:i386 libc-dev-bin libc6 libc6:i386 libc6-dbg libc6-dev
[06:04] <iwright> i'm on a 64bit system lol
[06:04] <iwright> should i... NOT install this?
[06:05] <iwright> before running this command, i did sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[06:05] <iwright> any ideas or help with this would be much appreciated....
[06:13] <iwright> ....man, i guess there comes a time for the long-term linux user where IRC just cannot help them anymore :(
[06:15] <Guest56912> use /nick Tsurya
[06:15] <erasmus> Good sense is the most evenly distributed thing in the world
[06:15] <ledtehnology> fff
[06:15] <iwright> dayum, seeing something like this scares the crap out of me...
[06:15] <Guest56912> Guest56912: use /nick Tsurya
[06:15] <Guest56912> shit
[06:15] <iwright> "The following extra packages will be installed..."
[06:15] <iwright> gcc-5-base:i386 libc-dev-bin libc6 libc6:i386 libc6-dbg libc6-dev
[06:16] <iwright> i'm on a 64bit system lol... should i NOT do this apt-get install?
[06:16] <Guest56912> i cant changging my nickname
[06:16] <elias_a> Guest56912: Try just /nick (nickhere)
[06:17] <Guest56912> elias_a: okey thanks
[06:18] <iwright> finally -.-
[06:18] <iwright> Tsurya, lol
[06:18] <Tsurya> elias_a: Thank you
[06:18] <Tsurya> :v
[06:18] <Tsurya> sorry :v
[06:20] <Tsurya> any aqw player ?
[06:21] <ledtehnology> эээээ4
[06:21] <Tsurya> what ?
[06:21] <ledtehnology> вы кто???
[06:22] <Tsurya> engglish
[06:22] <ledtehnology> хуй
[06:22] <ledtehnology> вам
[06:22] <Tsurya> njir :v
[06:22] <Tsurya> engglish please
[06:22] <ledtehnology> member hac hak
[06:23] <ledtehnology> jg
[06:23] <ledtehnology> op op op
[06:23] <Tsurya> eh, i guest i dont know what you mean -.-
[06:23] <ledtehnology> hi peple
[06:23] <Tsurya> people
[06:23] <ledtehnology> ggkggkg
[06:24] <Tsurya> Hey
[06:24] <ledtehnology> hy
[06:24] <Tsurya> where you come form ?
[06:24] <ledtehnology> i from rah
[06:25] <Tsurya> where is that ?
[06:26] <ledtehnology> in ass of world
[06:26] <ledtehnology> a to??
[06:27] <Tsurya> -_-
[06:27] <siva_machina> isn't that where trolls come from?
[06:27] <ledtehnology> help me
[06:43] <gagan>  hi im trying to install windows on my linux machine as iw ant to remove the linux from it and i dont have any live cd
[06:44] <gagan> when i select opion custom and try to do partition it is not working
[06:44] <gagan> as it says its nt ntfs or unrecognised partition
[06:44] <gagan> what to do?
[06:44] <OerHeks> gagan, you want to wipe all?
[06:44] <gagan> yea mate
[06:45] <OerHeks> gagan, just let the windows iso do the job
[06:45] <MolluskEmpire> how does one add third party repos?
[06:45] <gagan> how come?
[06:45] <MolluskEmpire> Because I want ice dove
[06:45] <gagan> when i install iso it goes to selection of upgarde or custom
[06:46] <gagan> i slect custom and nothing happens
[06:46] <OerHeks> gagan, you boot with the windows iso?
[06:46] <gagan> yea .. using bootable usb
[06:47] <OerHeks> windows should give an option to use entire disc. if not, join ##windows
[06:48] <gagan> its an image in usb just got it from someone size likge 4 gig
[06:49] <OerHeks> MolluskEmpire, any 3rd party repo give a howto, ppas from launchpad us add-apt-repository
[06:49] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[06:49] <gagan> no other way to wipe my linux machine?
[06:50] <OerHeks> gagan, you don't need an ubuntu live iso, windows iso should do it. if not, sorry
[06:50] <gagan> oh ok thanks
[06:52] <MolluskEmpire> OerHeks, I have the repo added but I can't update it as it isn't authenticated
[06:53] <OerHeks> MolluskEmpire, what guide do you follow?
[06:53] <MolluskEmpire> The one you linked is the one I was already following.
[06:53] <OerHeks> no, where do you get the info for that ice dove?
[06:54] <OerHeks> and for what ubuntu version?
[06:55] <MolluskEmpire> I'm running xenial but I pulled the repo from https://packages.debian.org/source/sid/icedove
[06:56] <MolluskEmpire> excuse me
[06:56] <MolluskEmpire> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-mozilla/icedove.git
[06:56] <OerHeks> MolluskEmpire, don't mix debian and ubuntu repos.
[06:56] <MolluskEmpire> How do I get icedove then?
[06:57] <MolluskEmpire> Also, why not mix pieces of other repos?
[06:57] <OerHeks> ubuntu packages are build different, in some details.
[06:58] <OerHeks> icedove is just thunderbird ( in our repos)
[06:58] <OerHeks> i find no ppa/repo for icedove.
[06:59] <MolluskEmpire> Right, which is why I'm asking about adding third party repos
[06:59] <MolluskEmpire> Because Ubuntu doesn't have it
[06:59] <MolluskEmpire> I would use trisquel but I'm not ready to give up a few proprietary programs yet
[06:59] <ducasse> MolluskEmpire: why not use thunderbird? it's the same thing, only different name and logo.
[06:59] <linocisco> hi all, my ubuntu Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS has problem shutting down, it took so longer than 5 mins
[06:59] <linocisco> what would be the most likely problem?
[07:00] <MolluskEmpire> Freedom #2, if I can use a totally free version with the same functionality I'd prefer to do that.
[07:00] <linocisco> even if I moved a computer a little bit , it shutdown. shake resistence is so poor
[07:00] <ducasse> MolluskEmpire: the licence is the same.
[07:00] <OerHeks> .. thunderbird is not free?
[07:02] <ducasse> MolluskEmpire: debian themselves are going to be shipping standard firefox and thunderbird, they've reached an agreement with mozilla.
[07:02] <elias_a> MolluskEmpire: Why do you presume Thinderbird is not free software?
[07:04] <MolluskEmpire> proprietary artwork, as well as the branding issues though what is the agreement they've reached?
[07:05]  * OerHeks facepalms
[07:05] <kazuistik> türk varmı
[07:06] <tiox> I hve an interesting question about lightdm; Previously, global login settings were stored in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf, what's the present-day equivalent?
[07:06] <tiox> Does lightdm support per-user setup and cleanup today?
[07:06] <OerHeks> tiox, isn't it still the same conf?
[07:08] <tiox> Does the file simply not exist in my version of Ubuntu?
[07:08] <tiox> LTS 16.04, Ubuntu MATE but I assumed lightdm would be the same across all flavours.
[07:08] <ducasse> MolluskEmpire: look it up if you're interested, it's offtopic here. the issue was debian putting code from new versions in old versions and keeping the name 'firefox/thunderbird' and the version number.
[07:09] <ducasse> tiox: no lightdm.conf by default, no.
[07:10] <OerHeks> on mate, is it  /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter-ubuntu-mate.conf ??
[07:15] <Morisato_K1|Ubun> Okay hello all I have a few queries. I am running this in VMWare 12 Workstation PRO (12.5)  Fully licensed. I thought Ubuntu was Debian but it is Gnome. I have an 15 2400 and I can decdicate 12 GB of ram to it though I wont. (more)
[07:15] <Morisato_K1|Ubun> i5
[07:18] <Morisato_K1|Ubun> Now what is a good amount of Ram to set up to run smoothly? 2nd question is Why is it when Ubuntu goes into the GUI it shows the backgrount tiled (This happens in a NON VM too) is there a fix? And does Steam work in a VM? Any ideas anyone
[07:18] <cfhowlett> Morisato_K1|Ubun, steam works natively in linux. no VM neede.
[07:18] <OerHeks> 8 gb for a VM is plenty.
[07:19] <OerHeks> if your background is smaller than your desktop, it will get tiled. solution: spread the picture.
[07:19] <Morisato_K1|Ubun> I know that not that it is a VM to run Steam, the VM is the Ubuntu
[07:20] <qoutroy> h5
[07:20] <Morisato_K1|Ubun> Okay I will reduce it to 8GB
[07:20] <OerHeks> steam in a vmware box, not sure you get good framerate with 3d games.
[07:21] <Morisato_K1|Ubun> The tile happens no matter the background size (this is a 4k pic) it only happens when you are logging in to the desktop
[07:21] <tiox> OerHeks: Seems like it, I just wanted some confirmation.
[07:21] <tiox> Also, this sentence seems to confirm something I thought about lightdm;
[07:21] <tiox> "With LightDM 1.11.7 we have new behaviour for multi-seat configuration.   Thanks to the great work of Laércio de Sousa LightDM now starts seats as   defined by logind."
[07:22] <Morisato_K1|Ubun> This happens on the VM as well as my Ubuntu/Windows box
[07:22] <cfhowlett> steam in a VM is not the same as natively linux steam = no high graphics support with the "VM" graphics divers
[07:22] <tiox> So basically... lightdm can define per-user actions?
[07:22] <Morisato_K1|Ubun> yeah I fugured that Steam in a VM would suck
[07:23] <Morisato_K1|Ubun> I searched and searched to see if I can find a way to get around that and use my Radeon R7 360
[07:23] <saturday> hi
[07:24] <linocisco> slow shutdown, what's wrong?
[07:25] <OerHeks> there is an ( old) multiseat wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiseatTeam/Instructions
[07:25] <Morisato_K1|Ubun> I forget what is the off topic help (or discussion channle)
[07:25] <cfhowlett> !ot | Morisato_K1|Ubun
[07:26] <Morisato_K1|Ubun> Thank you very much
[07:26] <linocisco> Morisato_K1|Ubun, doita shima shete
[07:27] <Morisato_K1|Ubun> -_- I am not Japanese It is a nickname I use in an Anime channle :P I am not a weeaboo (however that is spelled) I have an apprication for Japanese Anime and games. Okay
[07:28] <cfhowlett> Suntop_Kinseeker, still here in ubuntu ... perhaps you thought this was #ubuntu-offtopic?
[07:29] <Suntop_Kinseeker> Not intended to be sent here. I meant to send that to an IM window sorry
[07:30] <Suntop_Kinseeker> Switching to Off topic
[07:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[07:40] <zodiacxix> gereetings! I'm not here long, just thought I'd test the user friendly settings I compiled for hexchat for a new user to linux!
[07:44] <zodiacxix> Was too lazy to login to my real username so I used roman numerals for this nick haha
[07:56] <zodiacxix> seeya guys
[07:58] <saturday> hi @zodiacxix
[08:03] <Suntop_Kinseeker> Okay how do I stop it requesting my password..... on idle
[08:11] <matti> Hello there kind folks!
[08:12] <matti> Who would be the best person to talk to about Ubuntu Wiki?
[08:12] <k1l> matti: what is the issue?
[08:13] <matti> k1l: Hi there.
[08:13] <matti> k1l: I cannot edit my own personal page any more, it's locked for some reason.
[08:13] <k1l> ah yeah, the wiki was locked due to spam  abuse
[08:14] <k1l> matti:  #ubuntu-doc should be the teams channel
[08:18] <orpheus> has joined
[08:38] <ppf> where do i report package bugs?
[08:38] <hateball> !bug | ppf
[08:38] <ppf> can i  log in to launchpad with openid?
[08:40] <ppf> 'cause i don't really want to create a new account
[08:40] <ppf> :)
[08:41] <punkoivan> ppf, try and share your experience with us ^_^
[08:41] <jackhum> is there any provision or software that can help me to make restore points?
[08:42] <jackhum> some kind of backup program
[08:42] <ppf> punkoivan: regarding openid? well launchpad has no obvious button for logging in with , say, gmail or github
[08:43] <bekks> !backup | jackhum
[08:43] <marba> helo
[08:44] <marba> hello
[08:47] <matti> k1l: Thank you!
[09:00] <orpheus> hello
[09:00] <miguel2> helloo
[09:06] <bobby__> Hello, World!
[09:11] <matti> Hello bobby__!
[09:13] <borgrel> so ... what do u recommend? 100MB (ext2) for /boot (is it lilo or grub?) 2x RAM (swapfs) 50GB (ext3) (root) and the rest of the space for /home what fs do u recommend (used to like reisierFS)
[09:15] <k1l> borgrel: why /boot ? if you need a boot its too small. why 2x ram? 1x ram is enough for suspend
[09:16] <borgrel> grub for linux mint fits on 100MB (its 57MB or something)
[09:16] <borgrel> so 200MB??
[09:16] <k1l> borgrel: do you need a seperate /boot at all=
[09:16] <matti> borgrel: /boot - 512 MB at least, ext2 is fine, but ext3/4 would be fine too; swap - 1.5x the RAM is fine; / at least 8 GB or more; and /home - rest.
[09:17] <borgrel> no root partition?
[09:17] <borgrel> bleh, missread
[09:17] <borgrel> many thanks matti
[09:17] <matti> borgrel: In terms of the file system, ext4 or XFS (my personal preference) for /home, / can be ext4 or else.
[09:17] <k1l> borgrel: if you dont need /boot and make a too small one you just get into trouble
[09:18] <k1l> borgrel: that is why i ask if you really need a /boot
[09:18] <matti> If tou are going to install a lot of of things, then larger / since /usr, /var and /lib would grown eventually.
[09:18] <matti> you*
[09:18] <matti> If you plan to add HDD/SSD, then put /home on LVM/LVM2 and it should be future proof.
[09:19] <brunch875> I've read unity8 is coming to 16.10 horray!
[09:20] <brunch875> does anyone know if the nvidia propietary drivers work with it yet?
[09:20] <k1l> brunch875: not as standard desktop. but yes
[09:27] <pandaadb> hi, i was wondering, whenever there is an upgrade available on apt upgrade, is there a way for me to find out what changes went into that upgrade/
[09:27] <pandaadb> Like release notes etc?
[09:28] <bazhang> !notes | pandaadb
[09:28] <bazhang> the wiki will have the next release once its up and out pandaadb
[09:29] <bazhang> ie 16.10 yakkety
[09:29] <akik> pandaadb: apt list --upgradeable is that what you are looking for?
[09:30] <hateball> pandaadb: There is "apt-get changelog <package>"
[09:31] <louis_> Hi  I just tried to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 using sudo do-release-upgrade but I have an error with keyboard-configuration package: 'LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8' is not a git command  sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration gives:  /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: keyboard-configuration is broken or not fully installed
[09:32] <brunch875> awesome, thanks hateball
[09:32] <louis_> Can someone help me ?? My machine is not working and I gotta work !
[09:34] <Ahnost> Hey
[09:35] <Ahnost> Hello?
[09:50] <ducasse> louis_: you could try reinstalling the debconf package
[09:52] <wrksx> guys, I'm trying to create a deploy script for my website. I thought the best route would be to setup a custom user for that script, so I can manage permissions and stuff
[09:52] <Ben64> what is a deploy script
[09:53] <wrksx> it's a script that would fetch sources from a git repo and copy them sowhere else, set permissions, and update a symlink
[09:56] <wrksx> so the first issue is how do I have the script run with a specific user as opposed to the user actually calling the script?
[09:58] <Ben64> setuid
[09:59] <kahrl> you can't setuid scripts
[09:59] <wrksx> Ben64, cool thanks
[09:59] <Ben64> really easy to open a big security hole like that
[09:59] <wrksx> oh
[09:59] <kahrl> use sudo: sudo -u username path/to/script
[09:59] <wrksx> so I will need sudo everytime I want to call that script
[10:00] <wrksx> not very nice
[10:00] <kahrl> you could define an alias
[10:02] <pandaadb> hateball, that is exactly what i meant :) thanks
[10:03] <pandaadb> i was wondering if a specific commit for the xserver made it into an upgrade and my google wasn't successful
[10:06] <harpeet> hello
[10:06] <harpeet> need some help
[10:07] <harpeet> Want to install gnome on ubuntu 16.04, i have been using unity.
[10:07] <harpeet> what should i use apt-get install gnome-shell or apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[10:08] <bazhang> try them and see harpeet
[10:08] <bazhang> no one can know but you what fits harpeet
[10:09] <harpeet> bazhang: help me understand what should i go for
[10:09] <bazhang> harpeet, thats not possible
[10:09] <harpeet> tell me the difference
[10:09] <Vorap> harpeet If I remeber correcty the ubuntu-gnome-desktop package contains the whole de and some other things aswell
[10:09] <bazhang> try a chat channel for that harpeet
[10:09] <harpeet> i would opt myself
[10:10] <harpeet> what channel is it?
[10:10] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic harpeet
[10:10] <Vorap> harpeet I am on the bus right now. Moving to subway soon. I can do some reasearch for you then
[10:10] <Vorap> Ohh. Yeah bazhang is right
[10:11] <harpeet> Vorap: thank you, but i search on this, i wanted to know if someone knows better
[10:11] <k1l> harpeet: the gnome-shell is just the desktop. the desktop package is the whole set of standard apps etc.
[10:12] <bazhang> harpeet, its a poll questions, please dont do it here
[10:12] <harpeet> if i only want the look and feel? i should go for shell
[10:13] <wrksx> On my system some user have shell configured as /bin/false
[10:13] <wrksx>  and other as /usr/sbin/nologin
[10:13] <wrksx> is there a difference ?
[10:14] <UrsaTempest> Question, I was installing fpc 3.0 on Kubuntu when I realize it can't uses crt/wincrt. So I checked the usr/lib/fpc, and somehow it is missing wincrt.
[10:15] <UrsaTempest> AFter that, I decided to remove it, but after I checked root there appears some fpc folders still. And there are files on it.
[10:15] <UrsaTempest> So the question is, how do I remove the one in root?
[10:15] <UrsaTempest> The folders, I mean
[10:15] <leonarth> hello
[10:15] <leonarth> I have the /var folder mounted on a disk that doesn't exist anymore
[10:16] <leonarth> I've tried to edit the /etc/fstab to change where it gets mounted in recovery mode
[10:16] <leonarth> but I seem unable even as root to edit the file system tab
[10:19] <nicanaca0> Hey chat, can someone confirm that fail2ban > denyhosts when it comes to preventing bruteforce/ddos issues? It seems they do similar jobs but fail2ban does has more functionality and is more up to date. If i'm misunderstanding I'd appreciate a pointer
[10:20] <hateball> nicanaca0: fail2ban wont protect you against ddos
[10:20] <nicanaca0> I didn't mean ddos specifically I was more implying some IP trying to connect more than is reasonable acceptable. I'm not thinking botnet protection.
[10:21] <hateball> NCsaba: but yes, fail2ban is likely what you will want to be using
[10:21] <hateball> It comes with quite sane default jails for a number of services
[10:22] <nicanaca0> Thanks for the confirmation hateball, when it comes to server security do you do any IDS stuff? psad, tiger and tripwire are software I've seen mentioned. What's you opinion on this stuff?
[10:23] <hateball> nicanaca0: I do not, at work we have proprietary appliances for that stuff
[10:24] <XATRIX> Hi, i've changed a notebook ,and transfered my system to the new one. But i can't start Xserver. How can i start it with default settings or maybe reconfigure it via CLI to be able to run it, and reconfigure it later on ?
[10:25] <nicanaca0> Ok but if you didn't have proprietary stuff :P would you feel it's worth actively trying to monitor this stuff with open source tools?
[10:25] <hateball> XATRIX: what GPU did the old one have, and what does this one have?
[10:26] <XATRIX> hateball: my previous has Radeon. my new one Intel HD
[10:26] <alkisg> XATRIX: also, how do you transfer the system, e.g. with a plain cp, or by swapping the hard drive...
[10:26] <hateball> XATRIX: Hmmm, I dont really know about AMD. Might be you need to purge fglrx (if older than 16.04) and make sure intel module loads
[10:26] <XATRIX> Acronis TrueImage
[10:27] <hateball> so... dd
[10:27] <XATRIX> is there something like xorg-config or
[10:27] <alkisg> XATRIX: do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[10:28] <hateball> nicanaca0: Not really a topic for this channel :)
[10:28] <hateball> !ot
[10:28] <hateball> nicanaca0: And not a subject of interest to me really :p
[10:29] <XATRIX> alkisg: yeap, i tried to remove it. still no progress
[10:30] <nicanaca0> hateball, ok dude, do you know of a more suitable channel? I'm not looking for hard advice, just peoples opinions on server setup/security
[10:30] <XATRIX> I tried #lspci -v . It says i have i915 driver loaded
[10:31] <hateball> nicanaca0: well there is ##networking or ##security
[10:31] <hateball> !alis | nicanaca0
[10:31] <alkisg> XATRIX: what happens if you run `xinit` as root?
[10:31] <average> why were all my Pg dbs trashed after trusty->xenial upgrade?
[10:31] <average> it's a rhetorical, don't answer
[10:31] <average> btw, whoever made this possible, F*** you and your entire family
[10:31] <XATRIX> alkisg: (EE) no screens found
[10:31] <average> now I have to spend hours dumping and reimporting
[10:31] <average> I'm out
[10:33] <alkisg> XATRIX: which ubuntu version and which desktop environment is that?
[10:35] <k1l> XATRIX: make sure no fglrx is installed anymore. then make sure there is no xorg.conf left. better rename that to xorg.conf.backup
[10:41] <Shogoot> so ubuntu xenial server is not sending email. isint it suposed to be ready to send mail out of the box?
[10:42] <k1l> Shogoot: you still need to configure it.
[10:47] <nicanaca0> thanks for your time and the pointers hateball :thumbs-up:
[10:49] <OneM_Industries> So, I'm having a bit of a hardware issue that I was wondering if I could resolve in software.
[10:50] <OneM_Industries> Whenever I use my mic on ubuntu 14.04, it generates a 60hz hum that drives everyone else on the VOIP channels I'm in insane.
[10:50] <louis_> @ducasse can you help me achive this ?
[10:50] <louis_> @ducasse can you help me do it ?
[10:52] <OneM_Industries> I was wondering if it was possible to set up a band-specific filter somehow, so that only 60hz would be filtered, and everything else would be left alone.
[10:53] <hateball> nicanaca0: it's all good :)
[10:54] <hateball> OneM_Industries: that is *probably* achievable using pulse-audio equalizer, somehow
[10:54] <OneM_Industries> I've been tinkering with it for a couple of months.
[10:54] <OneM_Industries> I've been banned from talking in at least one channel until I fix it, it's so bad.
[10:58] <hpsm22> hi guys, pls I made update-grub and couldn't boot up (grub dissapeard) now I have liveCD and dont know how to fix the grub, any ideas?
[10:59] <hateball> OneM_Industries: googling suggests one can load ladspa plugins into pulseaudio to reject frequencies
[10:59] <hpsm22> !grub
[11:03] <hateball> OneM_Industries: and you've tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/18958/realtime-noise-removal-with-pulseaudio ?
[11:05] <hpsm22> pls help with installing grub via liveCD
[11:05] <EriC^^> hpsm22: type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[11:06] <OneM_Industries> hateball: And I hadn't even seen that. Thank you!
[11:06] <hateball> OneM_Industries: Havent tried it myself tho, I just have some levels of google-fu
[11:07] <OneM_Industries> Yeah.
[11:07] <hateball> OneM_Industries: feel free to report if it works well or not, I may apply it myself :)
[11:09] <OneM_Industries> First I have to wait for my test subjects to get back on the VOIP.
[11:14] <loa> hello! how i can disable ubuntu from controlling my wacom? i want setup area by myself.
[11:15] <loa> problem is that if i even setup it in xorg, something recover settings to default one, and it do this even after unlocking screen.
[11:19] <Kunda> Wiki markup typo in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OtherProjectSchedules for ---> [11:24] <matejko> EriC^^ got it {pastebinit}
[11:24] <EriC^^> matejko: ok type sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[11:25] <matejko> EriC^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/23284154/
[11:27] <EriC^^> matejko: type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[11:27] <matejko> EriC^^ already mounted
[11:28] <EriC^^> matejko: ok, type the following
[11:28] <EriC^^> for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[11:28] <geek> hi
[11:29] <matejko> EriC^^ done
[11:29] <matejko> EriC^^ no output
[11:29] <EriC^^> matejko: ok, type sudo chroot /mnt
[11:29] <matejko> EriC^^ ok
[11:30] <EriC^^> matejko: grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[11:32] <vegberg> Hi
[11:32] <Guest17172> hello
[11:32] <Guest17172> guys
[11:32] <Guest17172> is anyone alive out there
[11:32] <vegberg> no
[11:33] <Guest17172> really
[11:33] <vegberg> everyone here is a bot but you
[11:33] <Guest17172> ?
[11:33] <Guest17172> what do you mean
[11:33] <Guest17172> vegberg
[11:33] <vegberg> I'm joking
[11:33] <Guest17172> yeah i know
[11:33] <matejko> EriC^^ installation finished. No error reported. but it said installin for -386-pc platform and i have 64bit ubuntu installed
[11:33] <Guest17172> where are you from
[11:33] <EriC^^> matejko: no problem
[11:33] <EriC^^> matejko: try update-grub
[11:33] <Guest17172> vegberg : where are you from
[11:33] <borgrel> i'm not even a bot
[11:33] <borgrel> i'm a butt
[11:34] <vegberg> im from norway
[11:34] <Guest17172> hi borgrel
[11:34] <vegberg> why?
[11:34] <Guest17172> friends ?????
[11:34] <vegberg> what
[11:34] <matejko> EriC^^ added a boot menu entry so I guess thats it?
[11:34] <EriC^^> matejko: yeah
[11:34] <EriC^^> matejko: type exit then try rebooting
[11:35] <k1l_> !ot | Guest17172 vegberg
[11:35] <matejko> thank you very much :} brb
[11:35] <Kunda> where do i report ubuntu wiki typos ?
[11:35] <vegberg> anyway, i'm having problems with pulseaudio increasing the mic boost automatically
[11:35] <EriC^^> matejko: no problem
[11:35] <vegberg> does anyone know how to fix it?
[11:35] <vegberg> my temporary solution has been to make a script that resets it every 0.1 sec
[11:36] <pitiye> what are the rooms that discuss current affairs in Freenode ?
[11:36] <k1l_> pitiye: #freenode for freenode issues
[11:38] <pitiye> k1l_: thanks
[11:40] <check_> what software do I use to make a 16.10 bootable 4Gig memory-stick
[11:41] <matejko> Eric^^ cant boot from HDD
[11:42] <vegberg> check_: what os are you currently on?
[11:42] <k1l_> check_: what OS do you use right now?
[11:42] <check_>  <k1l_> xubuntu 16.04
[11:43] <k1l_> check_: then use usb creator, or dd on cli
 dd walk thru?
[11:43] <EriC^^> matejko: is the hdd first in the boot order, what error do youg et
[11:43] <vegberg> check_: Here's an article on it https://www.linux.com/blog/how-burn-iso-usb-drive
[11:44] <world> hi
[11:44] <vegberg> hello!
[11:44] <matejko> Eric^^ yes first, and after manually selecting to boot from HDD, it just hide the "boot table" and open again
[11:44] <k1l_> check_: sudo dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M         make sure sdb is the right device and not your hdd
[11:45] <werld> hi
[11:46] <vegberg> though if you have multiple hard drives you might not want to write to /dev/sdb :p
[11:46] <EriC^^> matejko: try the hdd settings in the bios, ahci etc
[11:46] <matejko> Eric^^ ok brb
[11:47] <check_> thanks ->> <vegberg> & <k1l_>
[11:53] <matejko_> EriC^^ still nothing
[11:55] <matejko_> EriC^^ can we try whole thing with grub again?
[11:56] <EriC^^> matejko_: ok
[11:56] <EriC^^> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[11:56] <pagios> hello,all, anyone using mozilla evolution mail? i need to open the mails in tabs but it opens in new windows any idea
[11:56] <matejko_> EriC^^ mounted
[12:00] <EriC^^> matejko_: ok, for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[12:00] <matejko_> EriC^^ ok
[12:01] <EriC^^> matejko_: is the bios set in csm legacy mode?
[12:03] <matejko_> EriC^^
[12:04] <EriC^^> matejko_: ?
[12:05] <matejko_> EriC^^ whats next after for i in ...
[12:05] <matejko_> ?
[12:05] <EriC^^> matejko_: sudo chroot /mnt
[12:05] <matejko_> EriC^^ ok
[12:06] <fireman__> Hi EriC^^ : its me again :D
[12:07] <fireman__> My wifi button swapped with airplane mode switch, so I cant turn wifi on, wifi LAN hardblocked yes
[12:08] <EriC^^> matejko_: grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[12:08] <deronnax__> elasticsearch package in ubuntu 16.04 is completely broken
[12:08] <EriC^^> matejko_: try running ls /sys/firmware/efi for me
[12:08] <deronnax__> it's shame
[12:08] <EriC^^> fireman__: hi :D
[12:09] <deronnax__> won't start & will fail silently by default
[12:09] <fireman__> EriC^^: My wifi button swapped with airplane mode switch, so I cant turn wifi on, wifi LAN hardblocked yes
[12:09] <EriC^^> !bug | deronnax__
[12:10] <deronnax__> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/elasticsearch/+bug/1465374
[12:11] <matejko_> EriC^^ config_table  fw_platform_size	runtime      systab      efivars       fw_vendor		runtime-map  vars
[12:11] <EriC^^> matejko_: ok, it means you're booted in uefi mode
[12:11] <OerHeks> deronnax__, also bug #1487274 Elasticsearch choking on non-ASCII characters.
[12:11] <matejko_> EriC^^ yes is that bad?
[12:12] <EriC^^> matejko_: see if the bios is set to uefi mode and disable it, enable csm legacy mode
[12:12] <matejko_> EriC^^ okay will try that... exit and reboot? installed without errors
[12:12] <deronnax__> OerHeks, is it a bug in Elasticsearch or in ubuntu packaging ?
[12:12] <EriC^^> matejko_: yeah try update-grub again then exit and reboot
[12:13] <matejko_> EriC^^ ok brb
[12:13] <OerHeks> deronnax__, not sure what causes this.
[12:15] <loa> hello! how i can disable ubuntu from controlling my wacom? i want setup area by myself.
[12:15] <OerHeks> deronnax__, maybe it is systemd, this page gives some tips, not tested myself https://discuss.elastic.co/t/cant-start-elasticsearch-with-ubuntu-16-04/48730/7
[12:15] <loa> i am talking about this stuff unity-control-center wacom
[12:15] <loa> i don't even want gui for setup it.
[12:16] <loa> i want ubuntu just leave alone my device.
[12:18] <debkad> i have a little problem, my .xsession-errors doesn't output errors
[12:22] <debkad> this is what inside it: http://dpaste.com/1H7NN2N
[12:22] <debkad> each time i check it i see that
[12:23] <debkad> !test
[12:25] <debkad> i have never seen this issue before
[12:27] <debkad> allo
[12:28] <debkad> o_o
[12:30] <punkoivan> ?
[12:30] <debkad> it was useful when checking errors though
[12:30] <Furai> Hey, latest system update made my ubuntu gnome into infinite boot loop.
[12:31] <Furai> Anyone have similar issue?
[12:33] <debkad> !ping
[12:34]  * borgrel gives ubottu a can of febreeze
[12:34] <matejko> EriC^^ cant boot with legacy CMS .. only in UEFI ... even cant boot from USB with CMS
[12:35] <EriC^^> matejko: what happens when you boot in legacy?
[12:35] <matejko> EriC^^ still cant boot with HDD .. i think update-grub is messing it
[12:35] <EriC^^> matejko: with legacy + trying the normal install what happens?
[12:36] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[12:36] <debkad> hi BluesKaj
[12:36] <matejko> EriC^^ at first black screen with "system changed - reboot now" then it reboots automatically and show me just the boot table.. when selecting HDD or USB nothing happens, same table poping down and up again
[12:37] <BluesKaj> hi debkad
[12:37] <EriC^^> matejko: odd
[12:38] <EriC^^> matejko: try reinstalling in uefi mode
[12:38] <matejko> EriC^^ reinstalling ubuntu?
[12:40] <EriC^^> matejko: yeah
[12:40] <EriC^^> matejko: make a fresh gpt partition from the live usb and let it install
[12:41] <qwertyco> I have a little problem when I connect the internet via wifi, sometimes later wifi connection has been lost for xenial
[12:45] <matejko> EriC^^ reinstalling ubuntu?
[12:45] <matejko> EriC^^ check this
[12:45] <matejko> EriC^^ http://paste2.org/DvEL19E2
[12:46] <matejko> EriC^^ :[12:46] <matejko> The default repair of the Boot-Repair utility would purge (in order to) and reinstall the grub2 of sda1 into the MBR of sda.
[12:46] <matejko> The boot flag would be placed on sda1.
[12:46] <matejko> Additional repair would be performed: unhide-bootmenu-10s"
[12:47] <EriC^^> matejko: yeah
[12:48] <EriC^^> matejko: try making a gpt partition and reinstalling in uefi mode
[12:50] <loa> hello! how i can stop ubuntu unity from trying to setup my wacom tablet?
[12:51] <loa> i want be able setup it only with only xsetwacom and xorg configuration.
[12:51] <loa> it purges my settings, i don't like this :(
[12:52] <Furai> Hey, latest system update made my ubuntu gnome into infinite boot loop.
[12:54] <_Wise_> hi *
[12:56] <_Wise_> I have an armada of Ubuntu Server 14.04 LTS installed, I thought about upgrading them to 16.04 LTS next year
[12:56] <_Wise_> but when I look at this page: https://assets.ubuntu.com/v1/65d114f8-release-chart-desktop.png?w=800
[12:56] <_Wise_> it turns out that 14.04 LTS *HARDWARE* stops soon
[12:57] <_Wise_> am I in danger ?
[12:58] <BluesKaj> !LTS | _Wise_
[12:58] <bunjee> anyone know Linux Mint?
[12:58] <ikonia> yes, all the people in the linux mint channel
[12:58] <BluesKaj> !mint
[13:01] <bunjee> just got 403 forbidden
[13:01] <_Wise_> BluesKaj: I know about the LTS 5 years support, that's why I chose LTS actually. But on the Ubuntu website I see that Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Hardwares updates stop *now*
[13:01] <_Wise_> and I'm not sure about what this means
[13:01] <OerHeks> Wise there is a small overlap, i guess with older hardware you are safe.
[13:01] <pauljw> _Wise_, if your hardware is working now and you're not planning major hardware upgrades between now and the time you plan to upgrade to 16.04, I don't think you'll have a problem.
[13:02] <bunjee> ubottu - just got 403 forbidden
[13:02] <_Wise_> pauljw: thing is that all these servers are running on Azure, meaning that if I re-instantiate a server, could be that it lands on a new hardware...
[13:02] <OerHeks> bunjee, read the error, maybe is says something about registering with freenode?
[13:02] <OerHeks> c/is/it
[13:04] <BluesKaj> _Wise_, then if you are worried about new server HW support, maybe the people at #ubuntu-server can help
[13:04]  * _Wise_ oops :)
[13:04] <bunjee> oerheks - 403 forbidden nginx/1.10.0 is what it reads
[13:04] <_Wise_> thx
[13:04] <BluesKaj> np
[13:06] <average> any reliable terminal out there?
[13:06] <average> so far I tried
[13:06] <average> 1) gnome-terminal
[13:06] <average> 2) lxterminal
[13:06] <average> 3) xterm
[13:06] <average> and now because ubuntu xenial 16.04 has messed up the fonts for xterm, I had to switch back to lxterminal
[13:06] <average> does anyone have a suggestion on a reliable terminal that I can count on?
[13:06] <average> and perhaps a reliable font that does not start missing characters after a Ubuntu upgrade?
[13:06] <OerHeks> average, gnome-terminal is reliable, fix your font issue?
[13:07] <average> me? i should fix my font issues?
[13:07] <average> why doesn't Ubuntu fix their own font issues
[13:07] <average> f***ing bulls*** distribution
[13:07] <OerHeks> ...
[13:07] <average> OerHeks: say it
[13:07] <average> OerHeks: do you have objections?
[13:07] <average> i would be surprised
[13:08] <average> so check this, i upgrade, and then fonts start missing characters, the underscore doesn't show
[13:09] <average> i try to look at my font config, then i downloaded the latest versions of the fonts, and put them in ~/.fonts and ran fc-cache again hoping it would fix it
[13:09] <average> then i ended up reading some discussions on mailing lists and forums
[13:09] <average> wasted like hours on end
[13:09] <average> and the fonts are still f***ed up
[13:09] <average> OerHeks: what possible objection could you have?
[13:09] <average> with those f***ing dots
[13:09] <average> keep the dots
[13:09] <average> i'd rather have a kit-kat
[13:12] <Pici> average: Please mind your language here.
[13:13] <taha> hello
[13:14] <obelix_> hi evert one,i am using virt-manager on ubuntu 16, some one know why the snapshot option is not available???
[13:15] <debkad> did ub0ttu allow pasting many lines o_o
[13:15] <lordcirth> obelix_, is it greyed out, or what?
[13:16] <obelix_> lordcirth i am really sure that 20 days ago the butto was there and work
[13:16] <obelix_> today simply not show
[13:16] <obelix_> i don't any idea why
[13:17] <lordcirth> obelix_, open a VM, View -> snapshots?
[13:17] <obelix_> let me see
[13:18] <obelix_> Yeeeeapppp
[13:18] <obelix_> it work!!!
[13:18] <obelix_> but the button not is show
[13:19] <obelix_> you rigth
[13:19] <obelix_> sorry
[13:20] <obelix_> humman layer error  :D
[13:20] <obelix_> there is a las thing about virt-manager if u know
[13:21] <obelix_> in ubuntu 14.04 LTS you can specify dynamic disk for not use all the space
[13:21] <obelix_> in ubuntu 16 there is no choice about hard disk
[13:21] <obelix_> it takes all the space when the vm is created
[13:22] <lordcirth> obelix_, perhaps they moved it too.  I will look
[13:23] <obelix_> in step 4 of 5 when you are creating a vm
[13:23] <lordcirth> It's a qcow2 file
[13:23] <check_> woohoo 16.10 i386 on p4 bare-metal Thank for the USB help
[13:24] <obelix_> yeap
[13:24] <obelix_> but
[13:24] <obelix_> not ask any thing about
[13:24] <obelix_> just create an qcow2 disk
[13:25] <obelix_> but take all the space
[13:25] <lordcirth> obelix_, they are sparse files
[13:26] <lordcirth> obelix_, du -h img.qcow2
[13:26] <obelix_> i think no
[13:26] <obelix_> it create only one file
[13:26] <lordcirth> obelix_, sparse files are only 1 file
[13:27] <rawhide> dashboard becomes unusable / invisible after a bit of time. forced to use synapse instead.
[13:27] <lordcirth> obelix_, however, if you choose to select manual storage, you can make a dynamically allocated qcow as well
[13:27] <obelix_> oh excuse me (english is not my anguage thnaks)
[13:27] <rawhide> correction: dashboard -> dash
[13:27] <lordcirth> perhaps sparse files are faster or something, so they switched the default.
[13:27] <obelix_> oh....thank you
[13:27] <lordcirth> obelix_, but go to the directory where they are stored
[13:27] <lordcirth> do ls -l to see the apparent size
[13:28] <obelix_> yeap
[13:28] <lordcirth> and du -h img.qcow2 to see the disk size
[13:28] <obelix_> i did it
[13:28] <obelix_> i was created a vm with 80Gb disk
[13:28] <lordcirth> mine is 33 GB, and 3 Gb, respectively
[13:28] <obelix_> and it create an 80G file.qcow2
[13:28] <lordcirth> obelix_, and what size does du report?
[13:29] <obelix_> let me see
[13:29] <obelix_> :( i erease the vm
[13:30] <obelix_> but ls -lh report 80G
[13:32] <obelix_> any way Lordcirth many thank you, great help !!!!!
[13:32] <lordcirth> obelix_, no problem.  You may find this useful: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Sparse_file
[13:33] <obelix_> wow thank for sharing your knowledge
[13:33] <obelix_> :D
[13:36] <secretario> opa
[13:40] <rawhide> i solved my issue in case anyones interested: turns out it breaks after a few uses when the launcher bar is located in the bottom. Top or left solves it.
[13:52] <John_william_> hello i need some help in openstack
[13:54] <loa> hello! how i can stop ubuntu unity from trying to setup my wacom tablet?
[13:56] <max2go> can anyone help me with secure boot on asus server mobo?
[13:58] <max2go> After last night's update of ubuntu, I get a "double free at 0x669e6080 Aborted. Press any key to exit."
[13:59] <dontgetdown> hi there, anyone using ubuntu on the latest razer stealth?
[14:10] <max2go> After last night's update of Ubuntu, I get a "double free at 0x669e6080 Aborted. Press any key to exit."
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> max2go: wich ubuntu version?
[14:11] <max2go> latest
[14:11] <max2go> LTS
[14:11] <max2go> 16.10 I think is the latest
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> !yakkety | max2go
[14:11] <max2go> And I have an Asus Z10PE-D16
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> max2go: join #ubuntu+1 for 16.10 mate, and its not LTS
[14:12] <max2go> Ok my bad ty
[14:13] <Pici> max2go: Are you using 16.10 or 16.04?
[14:14] <EoflaOE> This version of Ubuntu 16.10 unity is too new for AMD Radeon 9200
[14:17] <max2go> Pici, I installed 16.04 but I'm not sure if I have enabled to allow upgrading to pre-releases
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> max2go: lsb_release -a ?
[14:18] <max2go> lotuspsychje, I can't boot into Ubuntu, even before going into Grub it gives me the error
[14:19] <tuor> Hi, is there a workaround for the first point of: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics#Known_issues
[14:19] <max2go> From what I understand, this has to do with "Secure Boot", which must be a new thing since latest update
[14:19] <tuor> ?
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> max2go: do you dualboot or singleboot ubuntu?
[14:21] <max2go> Single boot
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> max2go: you know if secureboot and fastboot are disabled?
[14:23] <max2go> Secureboot was always disabled, I tried to enable that after researching this error message
[14:23] <max2go> Fastboot, not sure, I'll reboot and disable that if it's enabled
[14:24] <max2go> Btw I tried following https://itsfoss.com/no-bootable-device-found-ubuntu/
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> max2go: some settings of those might need a reinstall after value changing, so be carefull
[14:24] <max2go> ugh...
[14:24] <max2go> I guess I'll have to do that then
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> max2go: another thing to try is to boot your 16.04 liveusb/dvd see if you still can get in
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> max2go: perhaps you could rescue data or install next to your existing install
[14:25] <max2go> I'd have to re-dl the image and put onto USB first, but I'll do that
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> max2go: did you mess with bios settings after the upgrade?
[14:26] <max2go> Thanks, lotuspsychje... that's gonna be some serious downtime
[14:26] <max2go> lotuspsychje, I tried the secure boot stuff after it wouldn't let me boot after the upgrade
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> max2go: its bit hard to believe ubuntu update corrupted also before grub
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> !reovergrub | max2go another possible workaround?
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> !recovergrub
[14:28] <max2go> Ok will try that
[14:28] <EriC^^> max2go: try an older kernel
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: he cant get into grub anymore
[14:29] <EriC^^> he cant?
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: thats what he said, error occurs before grub time
[14:29] <Guest88392> hi
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> max2go: you sure you tested holding shift to enter grub right?
[14:29] <max2go> EriC, the error is "double free at 0x669e6080 Aborted. Press any key to exit."
[14:29] <EriC^^> max2go: when does it happen?
[14:30] <EriC^^> did you try holding shift to get grub?
[14:30] <max2go> Eric^^, right after BIOS message / beep
[14:30] <EriC^^> did you try shift?
[14:30] <loa> guys, i am begging you, how i can stop unity from overriding my wacom tablet settings, i dunno where i can ask about this.
[14:30] <max2go> Though there's a 5 to 10 sec blank screen after that.
[14:30] <max2go> I'll try shift now
[14:30] <loa> this is not even annoing, i can't find word for such behaviour.
[14:31] <EriC^^> max2go: do you know how to try an older kernel?
[14:32] <max2go> EriC^^, pressing and holding shift doesn't do anything, same error message "double free at 0x669e6080 Aborted. Press any key to exit."
[14:33] <max2go> I'll download and try booting from LiveCD next
[14:33] <EriC^^> it sounds like a kernel issue not grub
[14:34] <EriC^^> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1278508
[14:34] <EriC^^> there's also this bug relating to secureboot and kernels https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1292615
[14:35] <max2go> Oh yay... thank you guys anyhow. I have to get my server up'n running ASAP, so I'll try a re-install
[14:36] <EriC^^> when you update same thing might happen
[14:36] <EriC^^> :D
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> max2go: also make sure you stay on LTS for server production
[14:36] <EriC^^> try to fiddle with secureboot a little and the keys and what not
[14:36] <dio> ciao
[14:37] <Carlotto> ciao
[14:38] <EriC^^> max2go: did you try left shift?
[14:38] <EriC^^> maybe esc?
[14:38] <max2go> EriC^^, I already did. According to https://itsfoss.com/no-bootable-device-found-ubuntu/ in Step 7, it says to select "shimx64.efi" as trusted EFI file, but the file is not accepted "says FAIL" in BIOS
[14:38] <dio> stai esagerando
[14:38] <max2go> Yes, I tried left-shift
[14:38] <dio> io sono porco
[14:39] <EriC^^> max2go: try grubx64.efi
[14:39] <max2go> I did that too
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> !it | dio
[14:39] <max2go> None of the files are accepted
[14:39] <Guest88392> hi
[14:39] <EriC^^> max2go: can you reset the keys or something?
[14:39] <dio> cazzo vuoi io parlo come voglio
[14:39] <EriC^^> or disable secureboot completely?
[14:40] <dio> fuckin shit
[14:40] <dio> fils de puta
[14:40] <Ebreo> dio è ebreo
[14:40] <dio> eh lo so
[14:40] <melvster> hi all im a programmer trying to trace the operation of my ubuntu hotkeys and why they are sometimes slow, is there something I can read about how hotkeys work?
[14:41] <Ebreo> ma si può parlare ancora inglese in sto cazzo di mondo dio can
[14:41] <max2go> EriC^^, I tried resetting those keys, installing factory default, deleting - nothing worked, always the same boot error
[14:41] <pino> hi
[14:41] <dio> spek english?
[14:41] <pino> ehi
[14:41] <Ebreo> hi pino
[14:41] <pino> ebreo
[14:41] <dio> we
[14:41] <dio> sono porco
[14:41] <pino> sono pino ciao
[14:41] <Ebreo> pino dio è ebreo
[14:41] <dio> pino ebreo dio ciao
[14:41] <dio> che trip
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> !english | dio
[14:42] <Ebreo> apple pen
[14:42] <pino> okay
[14:42] <pino> pineapple apple pen
[14:42] <Ebreo> i have a dio
[14:42] <dio> i have a pen... i have an apple.... aaaah!!!... applepen
[14:43] <pino> ahaha
[14:43] <EriC^^> max2go: that's odd
[14:43] <pino> good
[14:43] <pino> ta mère pute
[14:43] <dio> come s tai pino? e' un sacco che non ci vediamo
[14:43] <dio> ou.. putammerrdee
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> !hotkeys | melvster can this help?
[14:44] <Guest88392> hi
[14:45] <Guest88392> helo
[14:45] <Guest88392> abc
[14:45] <Guest88392> EHLO
[14:46] <k1l_> !ask | Guest88392
[14:48] <battlecattle> I recently upgraded to 16.04.1 LTS and now my iptables are FUBAR, the FTP port is being used by something and I cannot figure out how to fix it.
[15:01] <skinux> I need a directory under /var/www/html to be writable by php script, what permission do I use for this?
[15:05] <usr13> skinux: It's easier to just use symlinks, (that way you can have the files in user space) (no ownership problems).
[15:05] <alwyn> Good afternoon. I have an issue after upgrading from 14.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS that apt-get update hangs. It is not IPv6 as I have that disabled. I tried clearing the apt cache with "apt-get clean" and "rm /var/cache/apt/*.bin" but no luck. When I run apt-get update it Hits a few links but hangs at "0% [Working]" .. possibly indefinitely
[15:06] <alwyn> ubuntu server btw
[15:08] <usr13> skinux: i.e. mkdir /home/skinux/www (All your files for site1 will go in /home/skinux/www/) Then you just do a symlink:  ln -s /home/skinux/www /var/www/site1 (apache follows symlinkis by default).
[15:09] <usr13> skinux: You have as many sites as you want, just make another directory for each and corresponding symlink for each.
[15:10] <NoImNotNineVolt> so, anyone here know anything about 'ubuntu for windows'?
[15:10] <usr13> skinux: The user operates with his own rights.
[15:11] <NoImNotNineVolt> i'm trying to fire up sshd and it's not working.
[15:11] <usr13> skinux: You can change the existing setup just by moving the existing /var/www/html directory to the user's home dir.
[15:11] <usr13> ... and create a symlink for it.
[15:11] <NoImNotNineVolt> running bash as windows admin, able to ping, openssh-server is installed...
[15:12] <NoImNotNineVolt> but service start fails.
[15:13] <OneM_Industries> Hi, so. I'm attempting to route my audio stream in from a mic through an equalizer to an application. How would I do this on ubuntu 14.04?
[15:17] <OneM_Industries> Also, for some reason I no longer have the sound settings, display settings, etc options in the HUD.
[15:19] <nacc> !ubuwin | NoImNotNineVolt, maybe
[15:25] <snoyes1> Hello!
[15:26] <snoyes1> Can somebody answer me why ubuntu starts several terminal windows when it starts up? Im running 14.04 wia crouton on a Chromebook if thats to any help.
[15:26] <backbox> Hi
[15:28] <NoImNotNineVolt> nacc: thanks.
[15:31] <hpsmm> EriC^^ thanks eric, I fixed it with boot-repair .. it purged grub and added new one ... now I have grub screen for every start.. is there any way to hide it?
[15:32] <hpsmm> !lts
[15:33] <hpsmm> whois hpsmm
[15:37] <snoyes1> Can somebody answer me why ubuntu starts several terminal windows when it starts up? Im running 14.04 wia crouton on a Chromebook if thats to any help.
[15:38] <nicanaca0> snoyes1, is this a desktop? Nothing obvious that I can think of but maybe you have something in your session & startup? Do the terminals show anything? do they auto-close after running something?
[15:38] <nacc> snoyes1: presumably you saved your session, that is not the default behavior
[15:38] <battlecattle> I recently upgraded to 16.04.1 LTS and now my iptables are FUBAR, the FTP port is being used by something and I cannot figure out how to fix it.
[15:40] <nicanaca0> battlecattle, not familiar with iptables (i use ufw) but one option would be to backup the current settings and try reset to the default. The other option would be using something to listen/list the ports to see if you can find out what's breaking port 21
[15:40] <nacc> battlecattle: `netstat -pan | grep <port>`
[15:41] <average_> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/intel-graphics-update-tool-linux-os-v2.0.2
[15:41] <average_> so Intel has a tool to update your gfx card driver for ubuntu xenial 16.04
[15:41] <average_> why doesn't ubuntu take care of this
[15:41] <average_> what are you guys actually doing, you're not packaging stuff from the driver vendors
[15:41] <average_> you break fonts on upgrade
[15:41] <average_> you break existing Pg databases on upgrade
[15:41] <nacc> average_: please take rants elsewhere, this is the support channel
[15:41] <battlecattle> nacc http://paste.ubuntu.com/23284984/
[15:41] <average_> what are you actually doing with this distribution
[15:42] <nacc> battlecattle: it would appear it's an ipv6 service running on port 21?
[15:43] <nacc> battlecattle: oh run netstat under sudo
[15:43] <nacc> battlecattle: that will show the root-owned processes
[15:43] <battlecattle> no a clue, everything was working great until I updated
[15:43] <battlecattle> nacc http://paste.ubuntu.com/23284992/
[15:44] <Pici> average_: Ubuntu is not a rolling release. We don't package new versions of things after a release unless they are for security vulnerabilities or high impact bug fixes.
[15:44] <nacc> battlecattle: so a tftp server
[15:44] <nacc> battlecattle: not sure why that is surprising?
[15:44] <battlecattle> I can't login
[15:44] <nacc> battlecattle: why do you need ftp to login?
[15:44] <nacc> battlecattle: or the ftp port
[15:44] <battlecattle> I use it for my raspberry pis to login and upload pictures
[15:45] <nicanaca0> battlecattle, you could use sftp easily enough I think. It should work with the ssh details and either port 22 or using the protocol sftp://user@ip
[15:46] <battlecattle> so it should work on 22? Never thought about just changing the port
[15:46] <nacc> battlecattle: just use sftp (you now have vstfpd running on port 21)
[15:47] <kicius> :)
[15:47] <battlecattle> nacc, Alright I will look into that. So everything seems the way it should be?
[15:47] <nacc> battlecattle: well, that i can't say -- if you had vsftpd before and it wasn't listening on port 21 -- i'm on entirely sure how that worked
[15:48] <nacc> battlecattle: afaict, seems unrelated to iptables, though
[15:48] <nicanaca0> battlecattle, port 22 is for SSH but openssh has a internal SFTP server which should work by default (I've used it via sftp:// in an explorer and via port 22 in filezille)
[15:48] <nicanaca0> If sftp works and you're happy with it you can just remove the FTP server
[15:49] <battlecattle> Alright I think I understand, either way I atleast have an idea on where to start looking and worst case you will see me back here
[15:49] <nacc> battlecattle: the only other thing i can think of is that you weren't using ipv6 before upgrade and are now, and your vsftpd cnfiguration used to say don't use port 21 but only for ipv4
[15:49] <nacc> battlecattle: you could also try `sudo netstat -pan | grep vsftpd`
[15:49] <nacc> battlecattle: to see if vsftpd ipv4 is listening somewhere else
[15:50] <battlecattle> nacc It is listening in the same place as the last netstat
[15:51] <nacc> battlecattle: so only ipv6?
[15:51] <battlecattle> correct
[15:51] <nacc> battlecattle: what was your ftp server before?
[15:51] <Guest78442> Anyone using a free DNS name service these days? What's the best free one for server 16.04? Thanks.
[15:52] <battlecattle> nacc, it was vsftpd
[15:52] <delfi> hi, how can I (in C) find out, that i recived empty int -> scanf("%i", &input)
[15:52] <delfi> ?
[15:52] <nacc> delfi: this isn't really a programming channel
[15:53] <nacc> !alis | delfi
[15:54] <delfi> yeah sorry, I expected that linux users know some basic languages. So, nobody?
[15:54] <Guest78442> delfi, still wrong chan :{
[15:54] <Pici> delfi: There are channels on freenode for that sort of stuff. ##C for example.
[15:55] <delfi> ok, thanks guys
[15:55] <xXEoflaOEXx> hi
[15:57] <arooni> has anyone got hbo go to work on ubuntu 16.04 ?  ive tried following both sets of idretions on
[15:59] <nicanaca0> arooni, can you link me to the instructions? What kind of issue/error do you run into? (note: from UK and not able to run/install anything but I'm happy to listen)
[15:59] <arooni> nicanaca0: i just got it working with pipelght; well sort of; i cant pause it apparently when it goes fullscreen; or minimize it; :P
[16:00] <arooni> nicanaca0: http://askubuntu.com/questions/764727/hbonow-on-ubuntu-16-04lts
[16:00] <xXEoflaOEXx> When I boot to Ubuntu, holding Shift, the GRUB bootloader has appeared, but it does not list Fedora, it only lists Ubuntu 3.13.0-32-generic and Recovery Mode, followed by 2 MemTest 86+ entries
[16:01] <neumaennl> Hi, does this channel also support ubuntu on windows/WSL? I could not find a separate channel for that.
[16:01] <xXEoflaOEXx> neumaennl: did you mean Wubi, with Windows?
[16:01] <apb1963> My printer is only printing magenta and black.  Any ideas?  HP 1010 inkjet.  hp-toolbox reports ink levels are OK.
[16:02] <nicanaca0> arooni, interesting issues, had those kind of issues before with flash related stuff. Is it usable or looking to fix those issues?
[16:02] <neumaennl> xXEoflaOEXx: nope, I meant the Windows Subsystem for Linux that is part of Windows 10 and contains a version of Ubuntu 14.04 I think
[16:03] <tgm4883> !ubuwin | neumaennl
[16:03] <nicanaca0> xXEoflaOEXx, are you expecting a fedora install to still be there? I think it's possible that it's still there and GRUB just didn't know how to pick it up :S
[16:03] <apb1963> ubuntu 16.01
[16:03] <neumaennl> tgm4883: thank you!
[16:03] <arooni> nicanaca0: well it would be nice to be able to play/pause things i suppose;   i wonder if the other solution might be better/light weight; but it ddidnt seemt o provie any playback
[16:04] <arooni> nicanaca0: and escape doesnt take me out of fullscreen
[16:04] <xXEoflaOEXx> nicanaca0, Does it mean GRUB will no longer boot from LVM partition (fedora)?
[16:04] <nicanaca0> typical arooni, I've never used pipelight and I try to avoid flash where I can so I don't have much advice. Hopefully there is a fix out there for you though
[16:05] <nicanaca0> xXEoflaOEXx, a lot of it depends on how you installed ubuntu/grub, I know I've had issues in my early days in which I had to add a record to grub as it couldn't pickup/use the other distro I had installed (sometimes happened with windows dualboot too)
[16:06] <xXEoflaOEXx> nicanaca0, ok.
[16:06] <nicanaca0> xXEoflaOEXx, I would start by logging into ubuntu and finding the partition with Fedora on it (if you're confident that you didn't break the install)
[16:06] <nicanaca0> xXEoflaOEXx, I've not used LVM much before so I'm not sure if that ties into it
[16:07] <xXEoflaOEXx> nicanaca0, I found it, it has the LVM sign in it, so it is Fedora.
[16:08] <nicanaca0> That's positive, the next step would be researching 1) why it didn't get picked up by grub and 2) how to add a manual record so grub can list and boot it
[16:09] <xXEoflaOEXx> nicanaca0, Second partition, which was 500MB Filesystem, has all boot files in it
[16:10] <nicanaca0> xXEoflaOEXx, thats good. I think you should be able to get it reconfigured (I just don't know how :P )
[16:10] <flavian> hello
[16:10] <xXEoflaOEXx> nicanaca0, ok
[16:10] <Ironleg> hi
[16:10] <xXEoflaOEXx> hi
[16:11] <Jordan_U> xXEoflaOEXx: Please pastebin the output of "sudo os-prober".
[16:12] <xXEoflaOEXx> /dev/mapper/fedora-root:Fedora release 22 (Twenty Two):Fedora:linux
[16:13] <Jordan_U> xXEoflaOEXx: Great. Please pastebin the output of "sudo update-grub".
[16:14] <xXEoflaOEXx> I did it, it found Fedora release 22 (Twenty Two) on /dev/mapper/fedora-root
[16:15] <xXEoflaOEXx> I will reboot and see..
[16:20] <xXEoflaOEXx> hi
[16:20] <xXEoflaOEXx> It worked!
[16:22] <pragmatism> test
[16:26] <nicanaca0> xXEoflaOEXx, that's awesome dude! Jordan_U nice work man :)
[16:26] <nicanaca0> g2g guys, cya around and have a good day/evening
[16:26] <xXEoflaOEXx> nicanaca0: thanks
[16:30] <cisco-> hi
[16:30] <SuperJonotron> Can't figure out why calling a function in a script won't work. If i call the code from the script by itself it works fine, if i wrap the entire thing in a function and then call "./myscript.sh function" nothing happens
[16:30] <SuperJonotron> this is on ubuntu 16.04
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> SuperJonotron  in bash?
[16:30] <EriC^^> SuperJonotron: i dont think that's supposed to work
[16:31] <EriC^^> SuperJonotron: maybe ". myscript.sh" then "function"
[16:32] <SuperJonotron> MonkeyDust, every forum i read about bash was giving that same syntax for it to work which is a bit confusing if your saying that doesn't work in bash
[16:32] <SuperJonotron> what's the correct syntax to call a function from a bash script then?
[16:33] <SuperJonotron> I need to call call a function from c++ utlimately and return a value from it back into c++ to process
[16:33] <EriC^^> SuperJonotron: it doesn't seem that it would work, it would parse it as an argument for main
[16:33] <inquistor> SuperJonotron, I don't think that will work at all. What you are doing in this example is pushing the function name in as parameter "$1" by default it won't we recognized as a function
[16:33] <EriC^^> SuperJonotron: ". myscript.sh" would source the script into your environment, then "function" should use the function
[16:34] <inquistor> SuperJonotron, can't you use create the script to return the proper value then issue a system call from within c++ to run it?
[16:34] <xXEoflaOEXx> I need to figure out what is the name of a correct package to install QT5 designer or QT4 designer.
[16:35] <inquistor> SuperJonotron, lets walk this back a little further... what value are you trying to obtain from the shell script in the first place?
[16:35] <SuperJonotron> Eric, sourciing with . and then changing some calls within to root solved that issue so i can call just the function now
[16:36] <EriC^^> SuperJonotron: cool
[16:36] <SchrodingersScat> could also put the function a couple of other places that get sourced by bash
[16:36] <SuperJonotron> inquisitor, i'm using some system level calls to obtain information about the hardware and performing a hash to generate a unique id to be used in the application
[16:36] <SuperJonotron> so i need that final hash value returned
[16:41] <SuperJonotron> inquisitor, any idea on solving the problem described or anybody else willing to chime in on accessing a function in bash from c++ and returning the results?
[16:41] <SchrodingersScat> thought you said it was solved?
[16:42] <SuperJonotron> just calling a bash function from the script from within bash
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> SuperJonotron  try in the #bash channel, or in ##c++
[16:42] <inquistor> SuperJonotron, I would create a script that ran your function and use the return command to provide the hash. Don't worry about calling the function directly.
[16:43] <Pinkamena_D> how to restart unity without losing all open programs
[16:43] <inquistor> SuperJonotron, minimize the number of moving parts here. Also if this is being used by a team, don't forget to document what you create at some point.
[16:45] <SuperJonotron> inquisitor, i can take the function part away and just run the script with a return easy enough.
[16:45] <SuperJonotron> should i move the rest of the conversation to a c++ or bash channel to handle calling from c++ to get these return value?
[16:45] <xXEoflaOEXx> On GNOME-Session-fallback, it runs Compiz as normal, When I run Unity (desktop 3D - namely Ubuntu), it skips to the 2D version of Unity, I knew that AMD Radeon 9200 SERIES is not compatible with Unity 3D but GNOME with effects supports Compiz
[16:45] <rexwin_> I am getting this when ttrying to install nginx http://pastebin.ca/3725896
[16:46] <inquistor> SuperJonotron, if that works and if calling a bash script makes sense for your application I'd say you have your solution.
[16:46] <inquistor> SuperJonotron, you could also direct these questions to those to channels as well to see if there are other ideas out there. Good luvk.
[16:48] <SuperJonotron> inquisitor, i just removed the function and added a return $HASH to the end but when calling from bash it gets me a "return: can only 'return' from a function or soruce script.  When I source it it complains about a numeric argument required for return
[16:49] <SuperJonotron> i definitely need the bash scripts since i need access to those methods to access the hardware
[16:49] <Eli-5dce> rexwin_: that is when there is a invalid certificate. You need to add a exception to that program
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> SuperJonotron  i'm sure the people in #bash can help better
[16:50] <rexwin_> how to do that?
[16:51] <Eli-5dce> it is in your settings somewhere. I have LXDE so i don't really know. it should be in software. (not the software center)
[16:53] <zodiacxix> hello again, so I'm selling this computer soon and ran into this issue when running update and upgrade:  Skipping acquire of configured file 'multiverse/binary-1386/Packages' as repository 'http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security InRelease' doesn't support architecture '1386'
[16:54] <xXEoflaOEXx> zodiacxix: Are you running i386 or x86_x64?
[16:54] <zodiacxix> 64
[16:55] <xXEoflaOEXx> zodiacxix: It probably connects to a repository which it has i386, It should be x86_x64
[16:56] <zodiacxix> source list doesnt show any i386 sources
[16:57] <ubuntu607> helo
[16:58] <ubuntu607> helo
[16:58] <craptalk> how can i change my boot splash screen emage
[16:59] <craptalk> ?
[16:59] <tuppabox> you should search for
[16:59] <tuppabox> playmouth
[16:59] <tuppabox> *plymouth
[16:59] <xXEoflaOEXx> zodiacxix: There is no architecture names 1386, it should be i386 or x86_x64, If you are running x86_x64, change it to multiverse/binary-x86_x64/Package
[16:59] <craptalk> should i just download a theme and put it on /usr/share/splash?
[17:01] <craptalk> i get the folder of my desired boot logo on plymouth
[17:01] <craptalk> how can i activate it while booting up?
[17:02] <craptalk> cause last time it didnt appear anything
[17:02] <zodiacxix> nothing in the list says i386, nor x86_x64
[17:02] <n-iCe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23285351/ any idea why my card is not showing the wifi AP's?
[17:02] <craptalk> tuppabox, can you help me please?
[17:04] <nacc> xXEoflaOEXx: you don't edit those files manually
[17:05] <xXEoflaOEXx> zodiacxix: Then that folder is not found
[17:05] <xXEoflaOEXx> nacc: ok
[17:05] <zodiacxix> how would i remove the error then, or can it be ignored?
[17:06] <xXEoflaOEXx> zodiacxix: but it is found on http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-security/Release
[17:07] <JediMaster> hi guys, I've got apt-cacher-ng caching apt/deb packages for a network, and it seems that unattended-upgrades ignores apt's "Acquire::http { Proxy" config, is there any way to get it to use the proxy?
[17:08] <SuperJonotron> tried to ask this in the c++ channel but i can't post there for some reason
[17:08] <SuperJonotron> can somebody give me an example of how to call a bash script from c++ and return a result?  I cannot seem to get a clear answer on this as well as what the bash script requirements would even be to allow it to work
[17:08] <zodiacxix> alright. then how would I fix the error?
[17:08] <lechevalier> bonsoir
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> SuperJonotron  i'm sure the people in #bash can help better
[17:09] <lechevalier> help for idle3 python3.5
[17:09] <lechevalier> i want help for idle3
[17:10] <SuperJonotron> MonkeyDust, no they wanted to push me to c++ and that channel is rejecting anything i type
[17:10] <JediMaster> SuperJonotron, system( "/path/to/script.sh" );
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> SuperJonotron  and in this channel it is off-topic
[17:11] <SuperJonotron> thanks JediMaster, but that would only call the script, not return any results
[17:11] <SuperJonotron> i'll try bash again to not clutter this channel
[17:11] <ppf> SuperJonotron: you need to identify with network services
[17:13] <SuperJonotron> ppf, not sure what that means
[17:14] <ppf> ##freenode
[17:14] <JediMaster> SuperJonotron, register your username with the Nick Serv, then identify yourself then you can speak in the channel, see: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration
[17:17] <xXEoflaOEXx> zodiacxix: On /etc/apt/sources.list, edit these lines which has security text on it to deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists xenial-security universe
[17:17] <xXEoflaOEXx> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists xenial-security universe
[17:17] <xXEoflaOEXx> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists xenial-security multiverse
[17:17] <xXEoflaOEXx> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists xenial-security multiverse
[17:17] <xXEoflaOEXx> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists xenial-security main
[17:17] <nacc> zodiacxix: what is the error?
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> xXEoflaOEXx  next time, use a !pastebin
[17:23] <jat-clone> jeez
[17:29] <n-iCe> are there something to change when installing ubuntu in a ssd?
[17:30] <baizon> n-iCe: not if youre using 16.04
[17:31] <boze> I'm on trusty. I never understood how software updates work. I'm on diodon 1.0.2 from the software center. How can I get diodon 1.3 or 1.4?
[17:31] <n-iCe> baizon: awesome. thanks.
[17:31] <nacc> boze: you can't, officially
[17:31] <baizon> boze: ppa
[17:31] <nacc> boze: you can look for a ppa or build from source
[17:33] <boze> nacc, so, hows that work? ubuntu locks in a version for the duration?
[17:34] <boze> or is the software center not a gui for ppa
[17:34] <nacc> !latest | boze
[17:35] <nacc> boze: i don't know if software center supports ppas or not, but you have to add ppas, they aren't just there by default
[17:35] <nacc> !ppa | boze
[17:36] <kille> good evening
[17:36] <boze> nacc++
[17:37] <craiger> anyone find a way to install KDE Plasma 5.8 on xenial?   kubuntu backports are stuck on 5.6.5....
[17:40] <nacc> craiger: presumably via ppa
[17:44] <nacc> craiger: didn't it *just* release? presumably it's going through CI right now
[17:45] <craiger> ok, so in CI.. just not stable then...
[17:45] <nacc> craiger: that's my assumption based upon the PPAs status(es)
[17:50] <terrible> i block the internet access using the mac address in my router but i notice that this device still get internet access what will be the right way? or is there another way to block internet access inside my network??
[17:52] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys super quick question so i have java 7 installed and i just installed java 8 but it still shows me java 7
[17:52] <nacc> Psil0Cybin: you probably have to update the alternatives
[17:53] <nacc> Psil0Cybin: e.g., `update-alternatives --config java`
[17:53] <apb1963> Ubuntu 16.01 My printer is only printing magenta and black.  Any ideas?  HP 1010 inkjet.  hp-toolbox reports ink levels are OK.
[17:53] <pragmaticus> If i copy paste a file (file.txt) the copy will be named file(copy 1), is there a way to change the name of the copy, for example "file.txt.bak" (running xubuntu stable)
[17:53] <Psil0Cybin> thanks
[17:54] <Psil0Cybin> There are 2 choices for the alternative java (providing /usr/bin/java).
[17:54] <Psil0Cybin>   Selection    Path                                            Priority   Status
[17:54] <Psil0Cybin> ------------------------------------------------------------
[17:54] <Psil0Cybin> * 0            /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java   1061      auto mode
[17:54] <Psil0Cybin>   1            /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java   1061      manual mode
[17:54] <Psil0Cybin>   2            /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java   1051      manual mode
[17:54] <nacc> Psil0Cybin: always always use a pastebin
[17:54] <nacc> pragmaticus: copy/paste using what?
[17:55] <terrible> i block the internet access using the mac address in my router but i notice that this device still get internet access what will be the right way? or is there another way to block internet access inside my network??
[17:55] <pragmaticus> context menu on desktop or filebrowser
[17:55] <GustafSwe> windows > every linux distro together :P
[17:55] <Psil0Cybin> http://pastebin.com/SUVM3Cj3
[17:55] <Psil0Cybin> sorry about that
[17:55] <Psil0Cybin> it says two other installs are hiding in /usr/bin/java im assuming thats my 8 install
[17:55] <nacc> Psil0Cybin: those are pretty clearly java 6 and 7
[17:55] <nacc> Psil0Cybin: what java 8 package did you install?
[17:55] <Psil0Cybin> it says
[17:56] <Psil0Cybin> http://pastebin.com/SUVM3Cj3 in
[17:56] <Psil0Cybin> there are 2 choices for alternative java providing usr bin java
[17:56] <Psil0Cybin> those all show user lib jvm
[17:56] <Psil0Cybin> so its installed
[17:56] <Psil0Cybin> just in another location
[17:56] <Psil0Cybin> that ubuntu is not used too
[17:56] <Psil0Cybin> because i manually installed the .tar.gz and it extracted it in /usr/java
[17:56] <nacc> Psil0Cybin: yes, I understand. Do you see that the paths are for java-6 ??
[17:56] <nacc> Psil0Cybin: why would you do that?
[17:56] <Psil0Cybin> yea i need to remove those
[17:56] <Psil0Cybin> those are all old
[17:56] <Psil0Cybin> ... :(
[17:56] <Psil0Cybin> from the old android sdk beta
[17:56] <nacc> Psil0Cybin: i have no idea what you're doing now, but it doesn't feel 'supported' :)
[17:57] <Psil0Cybin> nacc
[17:57] <Psil0Cybin> can i remove all my old java installs
[17:57] <Psil0Cybin> and reinstall java 8
[17:57] <Psil0Cybin> i followed this guide
[17:57] <Psil0Cybin> https://java.com/en/download/help/linux_install.xml#Java%20for%20Linux%20Platforms
[17:57] <nacc> Psil0Cybin: i don't know -- it tends to be a pain to remove manually installed stuff, and especially if you put it in /usr/java (a totally non-standard path)
[17:57] <Psil0Cybin> i followed
[17:57] <Psil0Cybin> https://java.com/en/download/help/linux_install.xml#Java%20for%20Linux%20Platforms
[17:57] <nacc> Psil0Cybin: but why? openjdk 8 is in the repos
[17:58] <nacc> Psil0Cybin: repeating yourself doesn't answer my question
[17:58] <james1138> Software question. Anyone work with (or knows someone who works with) Pinta Image Editor?
[17:58] <Psil0Cybin> it is in the repos
[17:58] <Psil0Cybin> narc?
[17:58] <nacc> Psil0Cybin: i'm guessing you also changed PATH to point into /usr/java, though, if java 7 is your default right now (as java is provided by openjdk-6)
[17:59] <nacc> !info openjdk-8-jre | Psil0Cybin
[17:59] <GustafSwe> a little bit off topic queston... but... does anyone know spanish?
[17:59] <Psil0Cybin> Building dependency tree
[17:59] <Psil0Cybin> Reading state information... Done
[17:59] <Psil0Cybin> E: Unable to locate package openjdk-8-jre
[18:00] <nacc> GustafSwe: completely offtopic
[18:00] <GustafSwe> whay does "doblamos" mean
[18:00] <nacc> Psil0Cybin: what version of ubuntu?
[18:00] <Psil0Cybin> 12.04
[18:00] <apb1963> GustafSwe, translate.google.com
[18:00] <nacc> Psil0Cybin: ah, only available on 16.04
[18:00] <Psil0Cybin> god damit
[18:00] <Psil0Cybin> my life nacc
[18:00] <Psil0Cybin> lol
[18:00] <GustafSwe> what's happening?
[18:01] <nacc> Psil0Cybin: so you did the 'right thing' for 12.04, maybe -- but you should probalby see if there is a PPA
[18:01] <Psil0Cybin> okay brb let me go home and get to the botom of this
[18:01] <Psil0Cybin> its a big mess
[18:01] <Psil0Cybin> yea
[18:01] <macbook> If I install gnome-deskop, and I chose gdm instead of lightdm, will I have problems on 16.04?
[18:01] <Psil0Cybin> thanks okay
[18:01] <nacc> Psil0Cybin: also, 12.04 goes EOL relatively soon
[18:01] <Psil0Cybin> yea i need to reformat this ocmputer anyway
[18:01] <Psil0Cybin> its just to finish my homework for android studio
[18:01] <Psil0Cybin> lol
[18:01] <nacc> ah :)
[18:01] <stefan>  hi does anybody know how I can alter footnotes in pandoc using latex-beamer?
[18:02] <GustafSwe> \documentclass{beamer}
[18:02] <GustafSwe> \begin{document}
[18:02] <GustafSwe> \begin{frame}
[18:02] <GustafSwe> \begin{columns}
[18:02] <GustafSwe> \column{.6\textwidth}
[18:02] <GustafSwe> Some text\footnote{a test footnote inside a \texttt{columns} or \texttt{minipage} environment.}
[18:02] <GustafSwe> \stepcounter{footnote}
[18:02] <pragmaticus> If i copy paste a file on desktop, there will be created a file called "file(copy 1)", does anyone know how to change the filename of the created copy (eg. "file.bak")? Running xubuntu xfce4 stable
[18:02] <nacc> GustafSwe: please use a pastebin
[18:03] <nacc> GustafSwe: and direct your responses to someone
[18:03] <stefan> GustafSwe, I can do footnotes, but it only shows the author. I need the title as well. I got it all figured out with bibtex etc.. That's missing
[18:04] <terrible> exit
[18:05] <nacc> pragmaticus: i'd look to see if thunar has some configuration for it, don't know off the top of my head; or use cp --backup, or something else
[18:06] <pragmaticus> nacc, thx for your help, but i definitly want to use the right click context menu.
[18:08] <nacc> pragmaticus: reading the xfce docs, i don't think that's customizable
[18:08] <nacc> pragmaticus: you may want to ask xfce developers or see if there is a bug/request already filed
[18:09] <pragmaticus> nacc, couldn't find anything too. Maybe there's a way to create a custom contextmenu item and run a the copy command on the selected file.
[18:14] <Tama> ...
[18:14] <Tama> ....
[18:14] <Guest74144> ....
[18:14] <Guest74144> Anyone there?
[18:15] <gargsms> Can someone help me with this? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/39893318/apache-piped-logs-errors-and-succeeds-at-the-same-time
[18:15] <phil42> hi
[18:16] <Guest74144> Yeah we can help
[18:16] <magnus> hey! i'm running "apt-get build-dep digikam" on Ubuntu 16 LTS, it fails because libgpod-nogtk(-dev) is missing. How can that be? digikam is part of ubuntu repo, it must have been built with the same stuff that I get when I do apt-get build-dep, right?
[18:18] <nacc> magnus: please pastebin `apt-cache policy digikam`
[18:18] <magnus> nacc: http://pastebin.com/1zejaKht
[18:20] <nacc> magnus: dunno, works fine here?
[18:20] <mekhami> i have no idea why this might be happening so i'm asking here. in weechat, usually i hit win+alt+left/right to switch tabs, but now that's outputting C and D to the terminal respectively. What could have changed my terminal inputs like this?
[18:20] <nacc> magnus: can you pastebin the exact output from build-dep?
[18:21] <magnus> nacc: http://pastebin.com/L13CV6SR
[18:21] <mbeierl> Does anyone know what to provide in preseed.cfg to suppress the [!!] Select your location prompt during the installation?  I cannot find anything that works
[18:21] <Guest74144> nmspa
[18:22] <magnus> nacc: i tried to manually install libgpod-nogtk-dev, and it depends on libgpod-nogtk, which does not appear to be in my package feeds at all
[18:22] <sazawal_> I guess there is a change in Ubuntu installation recently. I bought a new laptop with preinstalled Windows 7. I wanted to remove Windows 7 and install Ubuntu-gnome 16.04.1. While tweaking with the partitions, it (gparted) created a default 1 MB free space at the beginning of the filesystem. And when I was starting the installation, it gave a warning that a 1 MB space must be reserved for "Reserved BIOS blabla", which I ignored a
[18:22] <sazawal_> s 1 MB freespace was already appearing at the beginning by default. The installation went well, and when I restarted the system, Windows Boot Manager was appearing in the boot menu, even after removing windows. And none of the options in boot menu is letting me start Ubuntu. What is wrong here?
[18:22] <nacc> magnus: `apt-cache policy libgpod-nogtk-dev`
[18:23] <nacc> MannerMan: libgpod-nogtk-dev depends on libgpod4-nogtk not libgpod-nogtk
[18:23] <pepijndevos> Is there a simple way to output a MIDI file to a USB MIDI device using ALSA?
[18:23] <magnus> nacc: http://pastebin.com/J0JY19jP
[18:24] <nacc> magnus: hrm, pastebing `apt-get install libgpod-nogtk-dev` ?
[18:24] <nacc> *pastebin
[18:24] <magnus> nacc: http://pastebin.com/p1pUrCvM
[18:25] <nacc> mbeierl: doesn't that get set by setting the locale?
[18:25] <nacc> mbeierl: e.g., d-i debian-installer/locale string en_US
[18:25] <nacc> magnus: that's a different package than you said...
[18:25] <nacc> magnus: apt-cache policy libgpod4-nogtk
[18:25] <mbeierl> nacc: Apparently not.  I have that, but the installation still stops on the select your continent or region prompt
[18:26] <nacc> mbeierl: which installer?
[18:26] <mbeierl> nacc: trusty, btw
[18:26] <magnus> nacc: what exactly are you looking for in these cache policies+
[18:26] <nacc> magnus: to see where it thinks the packages should be coming from and versions
[18:26] <nacc> mbeierl: hrm, https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt implies there is also specific language/country/locale, but that should be working
[18:26] <nacc> mbeierl: are you sure the preseed is being found
[18:27] <mbeierl> nacc: good question.  Let me change my virsh command and see if I get the same error
[18:27] <mbeierl> same situation I mean
[18:27] <nacc> mbeierl: my guess is you don't have network configured (yet), so your not loading a preseed file at all
[18:27] <magnus> nacc: http://pastebin.com/wqcjqian
[18:27] <nacc> mbeierl: how are you obtaining the preseed file?
[18:28] <nacc> magnus: ok, `sudo apt-get install libgpod4-nogtk` ?
[18:28] <nacc> magnus: i'm guessing there is some custom (non-official) package that is preventing the above from installing
[18:28] <mbeierl> nacc: sudo virt-install --name MAAS --initrd-inject="$(pwd)/maas-preseed.cfg" -x 'file=/maas-preseed.cfg'
[18:29] <debkad> anyone know how to activate .xession-errors
[18:29] <nacc> mbeierl: ah off the initrd ok
[18:29] <magnus> nacc: okay, great. now build-dep digikam works!
[18:29] <nacc> magnus: hrm, that's odd
[18:29] <nacc> magnus: not sure why it thought you couldn't install it -- maybe you had pinned it as uninstallable at some point?
[18:30] <nacc> mbeierl: can youtry this
[18:30] <nacc> mbeierl: rather than name it mass-preseed.cfg, please name it preseed.cfg
[18:30] <debkad> this is my .xsession-errors in ubuntu only http://sprunge.us/eVGO
[18:30] <magnus> nacc: hm, maybe. but im pretty sure today is the first day i ever try anything with digikam :)
[18:30] <mbeierl> nacc: aha.  I'll give that a shot
[18:30] <nacc> mbeierl: and you don't need to pass anything to the installer then
[18:31] <apb1963> nacc, Is there a way to see what it thinks $(pwd) evaluates to?
[18:31] <nacc> apb1963: well, that should be interpreted by the shell, right?
[18:31] <nacc> apb1963: that's the (outside of vm) path to the file to inject
[18:32] <nacc> mbeierl: i believe theubuntu installer always looks for preseed.cfg in / of the initrd
[18:32] <apb1963> nacc, I'm just wondering if the shell thinks the same thing as he does.
[18:32] <nacc> apb1963: true, but i think if it didn't, virt-install would have errored out or emitted a warning saying it couldn't find the file?
[18:33] <debkad> or at least where the X errors hide
[18:33] <apb1963> nacc, no idea
[18:33] <nacc> debkad: /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[18:33] <mbeierl> nacc: that was it.  preseed.cfg is a reserved name.  Thanks!
[18:33] <nacc> mbeierl: np!
[18:33] <nacc> mbeierl: fy, documented at https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/apbs02.html
[18:33] <nacc> *fyi
[18:34] <debkad> nacc: that show some but not all the errors sadly
[18:34] <nacc> mbeierl: that's specifically for initrd preseeding like you are doing
[18:34] <mbeierl> nacc: perfect, thanks.
[18:35] <debkad> nacc: when there was some gui errors normally they go to .xsession-errors which is not the case in ubuntu
[18:35] <gargsms> I am having a peculiar outcome of a bash command: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/39893318/apache-piped-logs-errors-and-succeeds-at-the-same-time
[18:37] <elisa87> hi please have a look my printer doesn't work http://askubuntu.com/questions/833948/printer-doesnt-show-in-the-list-of-printers lpstat: Bad file descriptor
[18:38] <egoista_> test
[18:39] <lordcirth> gargsms, you might want to ask #bash
[18:40] <gargsms> lordcirth, never realized there would be an IRC channel for that. Thanks for the hint
[18:40] <elisa87> Failed to stop cups.service: Unit cups.service not loaded.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/833948/printer-doesnt-show-in-the-list-of-printers
[18:41] <debkad> elisa87: http://localhost:631/
[18:43] <poopBot> hi can i somhow rewert update of specific program
[18:43] <pepijndevos> Is there some lightweight program that I can use to delete some tracks from a midi file? I don´t need a full-blown rosegarden+jack setup.
[18:43] <poopBot> want to downgrade opera cuz my flash dosent work any more
[18:45] <elisa87> debkad:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/833948/printer-doesnt-show-in-the-list-of-printers I see stuff in that URL now
[18:46] <debkad> elisa87: visit this link http://localhost:631/printers/
[18:50] <pepijndevos> Both Ardour and Rosegarden install jackd, which is great for pros, but last time I did that my audio stopped working completely.
[18:52] <debkad> elisa87: did you see your printer listed in the link i gave you above?
[18:54] <debkad> brb
[19:00] <Morientes321> Hi, tell me please when I had Lubuntu installed I used sudo apt install firmware-b43-installer and after that I rebooted to have wireless, but now from a usb live stick, tell me please what to do to have wireless
[19:06] <designbybeck> neonpenny, did you get Ubuntu installed yet?
[19:07] <neonpenny> designbybeck, Si
[19:08] <ioria> Morientes321, no idea, maybe with a virtualbox
[19:11] <AndChat|153225> Can I install both catalyst and amdgpu-pro on the same machine?
[19:11] <rafahl> ellada?
[19:11] <OerHeks> AndChat|153225, no.
[19:11] <rafahl> ellada kaneis???
[19:12] <OerHeks> rafahl, english only please.
[19:12] <rafahl> ok
[19:12] <rafahl> sorry
[19:12] <rafahl> i am new
[19:12] <rafahl> anybody from greece?
[19:13] <Morientes321> ioria: ? :) no other ideas what to try?
[19:13] <ioria> Morientes321, nope
[19:13] <Morientes321> :)
[19:14] <ioria> Morientes321, another wifi usb adapter :þ
[19:14] <raspado> hi all, got a situation here, we were unable to ssh into an ec2 instance so we created an AMI from it, now I have the ebs volume attached to a host and I see authorized_keys in the /root/.ssh directory
[19:14] <ioria> Morientes321, or you eth0
[19:15] <raspado> is it possible to authenticate with one of those keys?
[19:17] <AndChat|153225> I'm thinking about use 2 GPUs for opencl computations but one is a 7870 and one is an r9 290x
[19:17] <OerHeks> AndChat|153225, one will use the open Radeon driver, the R9 will use the AMDgpu
[19:18] <zodiacxix> xXEoflaOEXx I did what you said then ran autoremove, all the errors are gone thanks!
[19:18] <lordcirth> raspado, if the image allows root ssh, and you have the matching private keys, you should be able to ssh in.
[19:18] <AndChat|153225> OerHeks: the open driver can use opencl?
[19:18] <ioria> Morientes321, http://askubuntu.com/questions/93909/is-there-a-way-of-including-firmware-on-a-usb-installation-media
[19:19] <raspado> darn i guess thats the tough part, is there a command I can use to match the public key to the private key?
[19:19] <OerHeks> AndCnot sure about that
[19:19] <OerHeks>  * not sure about that
[19:19] <lordcirth> raspado, if you have the private keys in .ssh, they will all automatically be tried
[19:19] <raspado> k thx lordcirth
[19:21] <NoCode> Reinstalled, and my GPU issues have been averted.
[19:21] <NoCode> Not using the PPA either.
[19:23] <Morientes321> Thank you ioria
[19:23] <ioria> Morientes321,  good luck mate
[19:25] <Bashing-om> NoCode: That is good news :) . I am like minded, if the open source driver works . why push ? If the repo driver works, why push ? KISS !
[19:25] <elisa87> please see the new details and let me know what I can do? http://askubuntu.com/questions/833948/printer-doesnt-show-in-the-list-of-printers
[19:27] <ioria> elisa87, don't know your issue, but mostly depends on your printer, if not recognized, you need the driver (linux version) from its manufacter
[19:28] <NoCode> Bashing-om, For sure! You don't want to ask how I got here though. :D But at least it is working, and the proprietary drivers as there. I'm happy. Wish I didn't have to deal with the proprietary drivers, but oh well. :)
[19:28] <NoCode> Bashing-om, Thanks for all the help.
[19:29] <NoCode> Bashing-om, I was kinda shell-shocked after spending $250 on the GTX 950, which I couldn't afford, and for it not to work.
[19:29] <NoCode> Was shaking me head.
[19:29] <ioria> elisa87, you haven't specified in your post the model... (very important info)
[19:29] <debkad> elisa87: install/reinstall hplip
[19:29] <debkad> and may be also the printer itself is not responding
[19:30] <jasom> where does one get the i686-linux-gnu-gcc-5 that I see in build logs for Xenial on launchpad?
[19:30] <ioria> elisa87, oh, sorry you did LaserJet P4015.
[19:31] <elisa87> ioria: http://askubuntu.com/questions/833948/hp-laserjet-p4015-printer-doesnt-show-in-the-list-of-printers please see the updated post http://pastebin.com/CHwyGL3e
[19:31] <elisa87> debkad:  I did no difference
[19:33] <ioria> elisa87, did you read this http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/laserjet/hp_laserjet_p4015.html
[19:34] <elisa87> ioria:  debkad I did sudo apt-get install hplip
[19:34] <Morientes321> ioria: Thank you, I will do my best to have luck ! :)
[19:35] <ioria> Morientes321,  ok :)
[19:36] <ioria> elisa87,  http://localhost:631    in firefox   what you see ?
[19:36] <hamlet> anyone
[19:36] <debkad> no
[19:36] <elisa87> http://imgur.com/a/wGkNw ioria
[19:36] <hamlet> all bots?
[19:37] <alkisg> hamlet: anyone doing what?
[19:37] <hamlet> just checking if anyone real here
[19:37] <alkisg> 1655 bots? really? :)
[19:37] <hamlet> just installed so
[19:37] <Bashing-om> NoCode: I went a cheaper route with a GeForce GT 710 - that will serve my needs well - I think - Awaiting it to arrive .
[19:37] <bekks> hamlet: According to "/names", yes.
[19:37] <hamlet> its been over 15 years since last time i was on irc
[19:38] <debkad> oh
[19:38] <ioria> elisa87,  type print in Dash
[19:38] <OerHeks> hamlet, do you have an Ubuntu support Q?
[19:38] <hamlet> nope
[19:38] <hamlet> is that the purpose of this channel
[19:39] <OerHeks> time to read the topic before enter a channel
[19:39] <hamlet> i just installed and dived in
[19:39] <hamlet> sorry
[19:39] <NoCode> Bashing-om, Nice. :D
[19:39] <hamlet> so 1661 people have questions
[19:40] <kevdog> Anyone know how to alias root so when postfix is sending emails as root (ie startup script in systemd service file), I don't get these errors -- using Postfix as MTU - Can't canonicalize "/root/Maildir"
[19:42] <gord0> hey guys, whats the recommended way to build an active/passive or n:1 cluster with ubuntu. is it pacemaker or luci/ricci/conga or something else?
[19:42] <jat-clone> kevdog: do you have an entry for root in /etc/aliases?
[19:42] <bekks> gord0: Depends on what you want to "cluster" actually.
[19:42] <gord0> bekks: simply service failover and floating IP
[19:43] <bekks> gord0: Depends on the service :)
[19:43] <gord0> say apache2
[19:43] <gord0> why does it depend on the service? i dont know about conga but pacemaker works with most and RA/lsb can be created/configured for the ones it doesn't. I just found it buggy
[19:44] <bekks> gord0: No need for clustering that, just setup multiple instances and a loadblancer/proxy, e.g.
[19:44] <Bashing-om> Guest7570: Not a gppd practice to run your IRC client as 'root' .
[19:45] <Bray90820> Is there anyway to enter your computers bios from grub?
[19:45] <bekks> Bray90820: No.
[19:45] <gord0> bekks: brb
[19:48] <peachtree> ls
[19:51] <kevdog> @jat-clone -- yes -- its root kevdog
[19:54] <r121> hello guys I want to share file between my android phone to ubuntu pc over wifi .like shareit, etc
[19:54] <EriC^> r121: there's an app called airdroid
[19:55] <jat-clone> kevdog: you mean
[19:55] <jat-clone> root: kevdog
[19:55] <jat-clone> ?
[19:55] <JustAPerson> My laptop doesn't suspend properly when I close the lid. Obviously I have the setting enabled where it should sleep. I just found it with fans blasting/really warm in my book bag. Any suggestions?
[19:58] <OerHeks> JustAPerson, "Suspend does not turn off your computer. It puts the computer and all peripherals on a low power consumption mode."  so bad practice, to put it in a bag in suspend mode.
[19:59] <kevdog> sorry root: kevdog
[20:00] <JustAPerson> OerHeks: clearly it's not even suspending. It's a macbook and I've seen the screen backlight flash on and off with the lid closed.
[20:00] <kevdog> kevdog@ubuntu-server:~/Maildir$ cat /etc/aliases
[20:00] <kevdog> # See man 5 aliases for format
[20:00] <kevdog> postmaster:    kevdog
[20:00] <kevdog> root: kevdog
[20:00] <kevdog> kevdog@ubuntu-serve
[20:00] <dbotl> join #LokiTest
[20:02] <jat-clone> kevdog: not sure the original error message you are getting is due the aliases
[20:02] <jat-clone> seems unrelated
[20:07] <Kartagis> doesn't 16.04 have bluetooth by default?
[20:07] <maxb> Does anyone understand the sort order (collation) that Nautilus applies to file names? I have a folder containing mixed latin and japanese names, and it's not even consistently sorting one script before the other.
[20:07] <kevdog> @jat-clone: Do you have a /root/Maildir ?
[20:08] <kevdog> Or if you don't -- if the system or root sends an email -- where is it stored?
[20:10] <ppf> how can i set a password for my user if i didn't have one before?
[20:11] <ppf> i.e., logged in via ssh to this machine only
[20:12] <Bashing-om> ppf: ? You must have set a password when you installed the system or made up that user .
[20:15] <mcphail> kevdog: did you run "sudo newaliases" after altering that file?
[20:16] <ppf> Bashing-om: you can have passwordless users
[20:16] <Rarrikins> ppf: Log in as that user and then run `passwd`.
[20:17] <ppf> asks me for the current password
[20:17] <ppf> and empty is not the correct answer
[20:17] <aleksandar_> ._.
[20:17] <ppf> shadow entry is *, fwiw
[20:18] <Rarrikins> ppf: If you have sudo access, you can do `sudo passwd username`
[20:19] <ppf> in this instance let's say i don't
[20:20] <Rarrikins> ppf: I'm not familiar with GUI methods, but that's where I'd look next.
[20:20] <jasom> ppf: you need to set the password as root
[20:21] <ppf> jasom: too bad :0
[20:21] <ppf> :)
[20:21] <jasom> oh Rarrikins already said that
[20:21] <kevdog> @mcphail -- yes I did -- many times
[20:21] <jasom> you can't set the password for a passwordless user as non-root
[20:22] <Rarrikins> ppf: `users-admin` is available in Xubuntu. Maybe it's available for Ubuntu and works for that.
[20:22] <jasom> or at least I should say, not with any of the tools I'm aware of
[20:22] <ppf> not in the repos
[20:23] <jasom> users-admin is available in ubuntu
[20:25] <ppf> well, too bad. long shot, i guess :0
[20:25] <jasom> it's probably part of one of the gnome packages; I'm installing apt-file right now to check.
[20:26] <jasom> It's in gnome-system-tools
[20:26] <maxb> < maxb> Does anyone understand the sort order (collation) that Nautilus applies to file names? I have a folder containing mixed latin and japanese names, and it's not even consistently sorting one script before the other.  |  Ah, so apparently it's actually the libc definition selected by LC_COLLATE which I need to blame for being illogical
[20:29] <TheMontyChrist> is there a command line tool to dump UDP packets?
[20:29] <TheMontyChrist> just want to make sure something is xmitting.
[20:30] <reyhav> hello test!
[20:30] <jat-clone> kevdog: no I don't have /root/Maildir, mails I sent locally land in /var/mail/<username>
[20:32] <humb3rtoluna> Hi, I have problems with skype it show me skype does not connect try later
[20:33] <humb3rtoluna> somebody the same issue
[20:33] <humb3rtoluna> ??
[20:33] <humb3rtoluna> I try with skype online and operation is usccessf
[20:38] <Guy1524> hey guys, so for some reason compiz is eating up my ram (600 MB), why?
[20:39] <Mosu__> maraino
[20:39] <Mosu__> monaga
[20:49] <jean_> somebody use tb6560 controleur on cnc with linux?
[20:49] <jean_> (Ho hi room
[20:51] <jean_> I search information for stepconfig and activate the machine 4 axis (for Hobby)
[20:52] <jean_> linuxcnc 2.5.5 ubuntu 10.04
[20:52] <dax> hi
[20:52] <jean_> hello dax
[20:52] <DonVolpe> hi dax
[20:58] <porkstore> i have a question about sharing files between 2 ubuntu computers
[20:58] <porkstore> the docs i found indicate that i need to install samba to do this
[20:58] <porkstore> that seems kind of weird to me - do i really need to install some kind of windows software port in order to do this ?
[20:58] <genii> porkstore: For linux-linux NFS is the usual
[20:58] <smokemeakipper> porkstore: Samba is actually surprisingly good
[20:59] <porkstore> what does good mean - safe ?
[20:59] <smokemeakipper> I use it, even though I don't have any Windows boxes in the house.
[20:59] <k1l_> porkstore: samba (its the windows filesharing). or nfs (which is the linux one). or you make a ssh server on one machine and use scp or sftp (which is included in the ssh server)
[20:59] <porkstore> is nfs better
[20:59] <jackhum> how to create restore point in ubuntu 16.04 , best program for creating a restore point
[20:59] <jackhum> ?
[20:59] <porkstore> seems like most of the docs i found on google talk about samba
[21:00] <smokemeakipper> NFS is good but a touch archaic; Samba has the benefit of sharing printers too, and is a bit more flexible I'd say.
[21:00] <k1l_> porkstore: because there are a lot of windows machines out there and ubuntu can use samba too.
[21:00] <porkstore> so you guys feel comfortable using this
[21:01] <exx0r> both have their advantages and disadvantages,
[21:01] <exx0r> also depending on what kind of access control you want
[21:02] <jat-clone> samba is great
[21:04] <porkstore> how come it didn't ask me for a password ?
[21:06] <nevom82345534234> help
[21:07] <wabbits> he waited 6 whole seconds. Nobody could save him.
[21:08] <mbeierl> Another really dumb preseed question: can I install from local media instead of http download?
[21:08] <jackhum> wabbits: lol
[21:08] <jackhum> wabbits: 911 whats your emergency
[21:08] <wabbits> :)
[21:09] <backbox> hi
[21:09] <jackhum> anyone here can tell me how can i create restore points ? so that if i screw up , i can restore
[21:10] <backbox> which system
[21:10] <ppf> jackhum: the OS can't do that
[21:10] <ppf> some filessystems can (btrfs, zfs, xfs)
[21:11] <ppf> besides that, create backups and be brave
[21:11] <backbox> any help guys
[21:11] <wabbits> with wha?
[21:11] <wabbits> t
[21:11] <k1l_> !backbox | backbox
[21:11] <backbox> i need someone to fix my machine
[21:11] <abhinavmehta> I want to move files from ./src to ./bin directory keeping the same file name, how can I do that? For example - http://dpaste.com/1NTWTP9
[21:11] <jackhum> ppf: i want to know about ubuntu 16.04 , i see a utility named systemback
[21:11] <abhinavmehta> see line#14, 15
[21:11] <ppf> (also, this is linux, now windows, so you can basicly recover from anything )
[21:11] <danm> jackhum: Yeah that's just backup
[21:11] <eightfold> hi. noob here. i installed f.lux according to http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/03/install-f-lux-in-ubuntu-16-04/
[21:11] <eightfold> that is, i added the ppa
[21:12] <abhinavmehta> I want to move hello and pello file to bin/ how can I do that in 1 command?
[21:12] <eightfold> and instaled via apt-get
[21:12] <jackhum> abhinavmehta: wait , i will tell you this
[21:12] <eightfold> but how do i start the app
[21:12] <jackhum> please dont answer his question
[21:12] <jackhum> i want to answer :)
[21:12] <abhinavmehta> jackhum: ok, thanks in advance
[21:12] <backbox> i have Ubuntu 16 so useful
[21:12] <k1l_> eightfold: why dont you use redshift, that is in the repos and has a applet too
[21:12] <jackhum> using wildcard
[21:12] <jackhum> *
[21:12] <jackhum> let me be more specific
[21:13] <abhinavmehta> jackhum: can you share 1 liner command?
[21:13] <kazuistik> merhabaaaaaaaaaaaa
[21:13] <eightfold> k1l_: read abou that in the comments to the blog post i linked above. is it just as good?
[21:13] <Exagone313> eightfold: you don't need f.lux, redshift is open source and better
[21:13] <kazuistik> türk var mı
[21:13] <backbox> anyone from uae
[21:14] <kazuistik> hi
[21:14] <jackhum> abhinavmehta: go to your directory , than mv * ./bin maybe
[21:14] <k1l_> eightfold: honestly the only reason why people install f.flux with all that manual work is because they know it from windows. redshift is in the repos. that works.
[21:14] <backbox> hi
[21:14] <jackhum> abhinavmehta: let me try first
[21:14] <eightfold> Exagone313: thanks. but question remains, where do installed apps end up on ubuntu
[21:14] <ppf> abhinavmehta: no don't do that
[21:14] <eightfold> on the disk
[21:14] <ppf> jackhum: don't do that
[21:15] <abhinavmehta> jackhum: * gives you  src/.. prefixed, which we dont want. We need only the file name eg. hello, pello
[21:15] <Exagone313> eightfold: from apt?
[21:15] <ppf> the * glob matches everything
[21:15] <abhinavmehta> ppf: why?
[21:15] <abhinavmehta> ok
[21:15] <abhinavmehta> ppf: but then I'm doing a grep using pipe
[21:16] <ppf> abhinavmehta: ?
[21:16] <ppf> you said you wanted to move two files
[21:16] <abhinavmehta> Exagone313: which redshift you talking about, share link.
[21:16] <abhinavmehta> ppf: 2 or more files
[21:16] <eightfold> Exagone313: yeah, installed redshift via apt-get now. but how do i start it?
[21:16] <eightfold> Exagone313: where is it located
[21:16] <jackhum> ppf: so basically he wants to move all the file from one directory to another?
[21:17] <k1l_> eightfold: its in the $PATH. so just type it
[21:17] <Exagone313> eightfold: redshift --help in terminal, or install redshift-gtk, or ask somebody else I have to go
[21:17] <abhinavmehta> ppf, jackhum - basically I want to move all files from one directory to another, but want to keep same file name.
[21:17] <abhinavmehta> right.
[21:17] <eightfold> Exagone313: is it command line only?
[21:17] <eightfold> ok, thanks
[21:17] <ppf> abhinavmehta: * matches all files and folders
[21:18] <eightfold> k1l_: is redshift command line only?
[21:18] <abhinavmehta> ppf thats right, I didnt get you you asking or telling something.
[21:18] <ppf> actually i should say, the shell will exapnd * to all files or folders
[21:18] <Exagone313> eightfold: don't be scared to command line, it's powerful
[21:19] <abhinavmehta> ppf, jackhum - ok, what I want is - after all my files gets compiled in src folder, I want to move them to bin/ folder
[21:19] <abhinavmehta> offcourse with the same name
[21:19] <eightfold> Exagone313: i have no trouble using it, but i feel there's no concistency as to where the apps end up and how i start  them. how should i know redshift ended up in PATH?
[21:19] <eightfold> without asking that is
[21:19] <ppf> why not compile them to that place directly
[21:19] <k1l_> eightfold: redshift-gtk
[21:19] <abhinavmehta> I tried, but failing to get it using Makefile.
[21:19] <k1l_> eightfold: that will make you a indicator
[21:20] <abhinavmehta> Have to learn makefile further .. so for meanwhile this is hack.
[21:20] <jackhum> abhinavmehta: maybe cp dirname bin/
[21:20] <jackhum> man i need to learn a lot
[21:21] <abhinavmehta> jackhum: nope wont work, cp first parameter dirname is src/* ... which will contain lets say src/hello.c as well as src/hello ... where I want to move only src/hello -> bin/hello
[21:21] <ppf> abhinavmehta: figure out how to do it in make
[21:21] <ppf> that's the proper way
[21:21] <danm> Sorry if I stress on this question but: Does Ubuntu know how to switch gpus by default?
[21:22] <ppf> danm: depends
[21:22] <abhinavmehta> ppf: for a second, lets keep build tools away .. just curious how to do using shell also. What option do I have if I was using let say shell-scripts
[21:22] <ppf> on the kernel and the gpus
[21:22] <danm> ppf: Ubuntu 16.04
[21:22] <JosephineBlack> hi
[21:23] <danm> ppf: intel + nvidia
[21:23] <jackhum> abhinavmehta: why mv ./src/* ./bin/ wont work?
[21:23] <Capum321> how to configure samba file share to a ntfs partition?
[21:23] <abhinavmehta> Makefile is just a build tool, does something more then shell/bash script .. but at end of the day its shell script which makes it work
[21:23] <jackhum> abhinavmehta: i think this command will transfer all the src files to bin
[21:23] <abhinavmehta> jackhum: because mv ./src/* will match *.c files too ..  which I dont want
[21:24] <abhinavmehta> I need only binaries to be moved to bin/ folder
[21:24] <JosephineBlack> Hallo :-)
[21:24] <JosephineBlack> Is der any social chat about debian or ubuntu on freenode please?
[21:24] <ppf> danm: then you should get familiar with optimus and bumblebee
[21:24] <AarQun> Hi all
[21:24] <Capum321> JosephineBlack: you mean off-topic?
[21:24] <danm> ppf: So the open source default won't do?
[21:25] <JosephineBlack> yes maybe just to talk and hang out and chill
[21:25] <lordcirth> !ot
[21:25] <JosephineBlack> u got a link please mine pc is slooooooow
[21:25] <abhinavmehta> ppf jackhum - so is there any bash/shell script channel? Ubuntu is quite generic I assume.
[21:25] <JosephineBlack> how are the ICQ dtatabases hosted?
[21:25] <mo1991reg> I am trying to install ubuntu on my surface pro 4.   I have used gparted to shrink windows partition and installed ubuntu 16.04 on the free space.   I do not get a grub loader on reboot, however.   Can anyone help me install grub properly?
[21:26] <ppf> abhinavmehta: ##bash
[21:26] <abhinavmehta> any channel recommendations?
[21:26] <ppf> or #bash
[21:26] <danm> ppf: Also I've seen that even then the switch is made manually by the user:
[21:26] <abhinavmehta> ok, thanks ppf. :)
[21:26] <ppf> danm: yes
[21:26] <Bashing-om> porkstore: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2159449 <-easiest way to cp files 'tween two 'buntus that share the same router/house (Morbius1) .
[21:26] <danm> ppf: Thanks! Do newer kernels handel it automatically? 4.8?
[21:27] <ppf> no, and i don't think anyone intends to
[21:27] <jackhum> abhinavmehta: how about mv ./src/!(*.c) ./bin/ ?
[21:27] <danm> ppf: Sad, windows does it. Well the drivers for Windows do.
[21:28] <ppf> yes
[21:28] <ppf> the question is, what kind of automatism do you really need?
[21:28] <porkstore> anyone know why ubuntu file sharing with samba would not be working
[21:28] <porkstore> i have a '2 in 1' cable modem
[21:28] <porkstore> i wonder if that's an issue
[21:28] <ppf> porkstore: need more details
[21:29] <porkstore> i shared the folder in nautilus
[21:29] <porkstore> installed samba
[21:29] <porkstore> opened "network" on the other machine, but it doesn't see anything
[21:29] <JosephineBlack> restarted samba and nagios servicesß
[21:29] <JosephineBlack> ?
[21:30] <porkstore> what is nagios ?
[21:30] <k1l_> made a "share" on the first machine?
[21:30] <porkstore> Failed to restart samba.service: Unit samba.service is masked.
[21:30] <porkstore> yeah k1l_
[21:31] <porkstore> $ service samba status
[21:31] <porkstore> ● samba.service Loaded: masked (/dev/null; bad) Active: inactive (dead)
[21:32] <Capum321> how to share a ntfs partition?
[21:32] <porkstore> looks like i have ipv6 ip
[21:32] <pavlos> do you have systemctl? if so, try systemctl status smbd.service
[21:32] <JosephineBlack> what about DNS?
[21:32] <JosephineBlack> gateways and resolver?
[21:33] <JosephineBlack> masked?
[21:33] <JosephineBlack> ask root lol*
[21:33] <porkstore> that did something pavlos
[21:33] <porkstore> what am i looking for
[21:33] <Capum321> talking about samba, how to share a ntfs partition?
[21:34] <pavlos> are you ruunning 16.04?
[21:34] <porkstore> yeah
[21:34] <Jordan_U> Capum321: Mount the ntfs partition then share it as you would any other directory.
[21:34] <porkstore> Started LSB: start Samba SMB/CIFS daemon (smbd). / pam_unix(samba:session): session closed for user nobody
[21:34] <pavlos> so you need to use systemctl, not the old stuff (service, upstart, etc)
[21:35] <porkstore> k
[21:36] <pavlos> instead of status, you can try restart as a parm
[21:37] <porkstore> well it didn't change anything
[21:38] <Capum321> Jordan_U: no, it isn't like that. if i set a ext4 path at smb.conf custom share it works, but not with a ntfs?
[21:38] <porkstore> i wonder if this masking is an issue
[21:39] <Jordan_U> Capum321: What happens when you try to share a directory on an ntfs filesystem? Does the user samba is running as have permissions to read that directory and its files?
[21:39] <skinux> I need some help. I'm using Apache 2.4 with FastCGI and PHP 7.0, having a lot of problems with slow loading and 503 error pages.
[21:39] <skinux> Here is recent contents of Apache error log https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/e478a49039a346c761a79fe963f05cd6
[21:39] <porkstore> Bashing-om - can i do that with FTP so i can preserve directories ?
[21:39] <pavlos> porkstore, I assume both systems are in the same WORKGROUP
[21:40] <porkstore> i have no idea what a workgroup is
[21:40] <Capum321> Jordan_U: i assume i have to fix this at /etc/fstab?
[21:40] <Jordan_U> porkstore: systemctl status smbd
[21:41] <Capum321> Jordan_U: or elsewhere?
[21:41] <Jordan_U> Capum321: Fix what exactly?
[21:42] <Capum321> Jordan_U: give permissions to read the directory and below...
[21:42] <pavlos> Capum321, you can usually share ntfs using 1.1.1.1:/vol /shared with some parms in /etc/fstab
[21:42] <pavlos> Capum321, adjust ip and dirs
[21:43] <Capum321> pavlos: I didn't understand how/where to do this fix
[21:43] <pavlos> porkstore, help me understand your setup ... from 16.04, you right click on a floder, enable sharing. samba is restarted. You go to another machine, look at network and how to see your shared dir. Am I close ?
[21:44] <Jordan_U> Capum321: Have you confirmed that permissions are the issue? You never actually anwswered my question about permission.
[21:44] <Capum321> Jordan_U: where I confirm that information at first place?
[21:44] <porkstore> http://pastebin.com/Z2hWHDrS
[21:45] <porkstore> pavlos - yeah
[21:45] <Capum321> Jordan_U: just a ls?
[21:45] <docasii> hi
[21:45] <porkstore> i go to another computer and i don't see it
[21:45] <docasii> whats up
[21:45] <Jordan_U> Capum321: ls -ld /path/to/shared_directory/
[21:46] <porkstore> if i just install ftp will i get local network speed ?
[21:46] <porkstore> ftp server
[21:46] <wabbits> what is the speed of you local network?
[21:46] <k1l_> porkstore: use openssh-server. it got a sftp server included
[21:47] <porkstore> this is a pain in the rear
[21:48] <porkstore> oh snap
[21:48] <Capum321> Jordan_U: drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4096 date /path/to/directory is the output
[21:48] <Bashing-om> porkstore: Anytbing one has not done before is a pain . Try removing the starter from a 2001 4 cyl Pontiac auto .
[21:49] <porkstore> instead i did "connect to server" and did smb:// to the local ip
[21:49] <porkstore> and now i see it
[21:49] <Jordan_U> Capum321: How are you sharing this directory? Please include the actual path.
[21:49] <porkstore> i would not get involved with a gm vehicle
[21:49] <pavlos> porkstore, there are 2 more lines in the pastbin you provided ... it should read 'ready to serve connections
[21:50] <pavlos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23286442/
[21:51] <porkstore> pavlos - no i don't have that
[21:51] <porkstore> but i am connected, sort of ..
[21:51] <porkstore> via smb://
[21:51] <porkstore> but now it's asking me for a password
[21:52] <porkstore> but not accepting my password
[21:52] <Capum321> Jordan_U: setting up smb.conf with browseable = yes, force user = nobody, read only = yes, guest ok = yes. this same configuration works for a linux path ext4
[21:52] <porkstore> it says domain WORKGROUP
[21:53] <JosephineBlack> Domain\porkstore
[21:53] <JosephineBlack> pass
[21:53] <JosephineBlack> or
[21:54] <JosephineBlack> prkstore@domain?
[21:54] <porkstore> its a popup window
[21:54] <Capum321> Jordan_U: the folder is on /media
[21:54] <porkstore> it says username: domain: password:
[21:54] <porkstore> the domain says WORKGROUP
[21:54] <JosephineBlack> depence on from which machine u try tp connect samba
[21:54] <porkstore> so i put in the user and pass on that machine
[21:54] <JosephineBlack> which os
[21:54] <porkstore> but it doesn't accept
[21:54] <porkstore> ubuntu
[21:55] <nacc> porkstore: i think that's the default domain used by samba (iirc)
[21:55] <k1l_> porkstore: domain doesnt matte.r use the user and password you set on the other machine
[21:55] <JosephineBlack> and u like connect to windows?
[21:55] <porkstore> yeah that seems to be the case
[21:55] <nacc> porkstore: domain in this case is a windows-ism
[21:55] <porkstore> i am doing so k1l_ but not accepted
[21:55] <JosephineBlack> and the windows firewall lol*
[21:55] <porkstore> also tried root
[21:55] <JosephineBlack> or some Mcaffee tec.
[21:55] <pavlos> porkstore, you samba version is 4.3.11 (samba --version
[21:55] <pavlos> your
[21:56] <porkstore> yeah
[21:56] <nacc> porkstore: did you update /etc/samba/smb.conf (or verify its contents)?
[21:56] <JosephineBlack> and kind of windows os 7,8,10 etc.
[21:56] <nacc> porkstore: e.g., https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html
[21:57] <Capum321> Jordan_U: /media/username/partitionMountPointName/SomeFolder1/ChildFolder
[21:57] <nacc> porkstore: and possibly https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-fileprint-security.html
[21:57] <Bray90820> Can someone help me here my mouse/touchpad pointer changes position every time I try to move it
[21:58] <porkstore> is this related to my encrypted directories ?
[21:59] <pavlos> Capum321, did you figure out the ntfs issue?
[22:06] <porkstore> ok, i had to add a samba user
[22:06] <porkstore> this is really not very out of the box at all
[22:07] <nacc> porkstore: normally, you're using samba to connect to a network that also has windows machines
[22:07] <porkstore> it is working though !
[22:07] <nacc> porkstore: so you have AD or something running and want to auth to that
[22:07] <k1l_> porkstore: you wanted to use samba :)
[22:07] <nacc> porkstore: for ubuntu <-> ubuntu, samba is overkill (generally)
[22:07] <porkstore> yeah that's why i originally came in here wondering why ubuntu is leading me to even use samba
[22:07] <nacc> porkstore: although it does work, as you saw
[22:07] <porkstore> lol no i didn't want to use it
[22:07] <porkstore> but i was in a hurry
[22:08] <nacc> being in a hurry tends to lead to bad choices :)
[22:08] <nacc> porkstore: i would highly suggest you read the serverguide samba section
[22:08] <nacc> porkstore: and probably the samba docs as well
[22:08] <porkstore> preparing to copy 36,000 files
[22:08] <porkstore> i did consult the user guide
[22:08] <nacc> porkstore: are you just copying files between two computers?
[22:09] <porkstore> which is where i found out that i need a separate samba user
[22:09] <nacc> porkstore: i didn't say user guide, i said server guide :)
[22:09] <porkstore> that's what i meant, sorry
[22:09] <porkstore> yeah i am just copying files is there a better way
[22:09] <porkstore> they are on the same network, and i need to preserve directory structure
[22:10] <k1l_> rsync over ssh
[22:10] <Capum321> pavlos: no, i couldn't, Jordan_U left me alone
[22:10] <nacc> porkstore: rsync absolutely
[22:10] <porkstore> is that faster ?
[22:10] <nacc> porkstore: anything else, if just copying, is a waste of resources, afaict :) and a headache
[22:11] <k1l_> porkstore: why faster? last question was "what is safe and keeps directory structure"
[22:11] <nacc> porkstore: that's why it's good to start with a problem description (i'm trying to copy thousands of files between two ubuntu machines); rather than a description of what you tried (why isn't samba working). The latter can follow the former, but if it precedes it instead, it tends to lead down a path like the one you just did :)
[22:11] <porkstore> well faster is good too
[22:12] <porkstore> but i like the concept of rsync so i can keep 2 computers synced
[22:12] <pavlos> Capum321, this may help ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/113733/how-do-i-correctly-mount-a-ntfs-partition-in-etc-fstab
[22:13] <porkstore> so maybe what i sh ould do is let this transfer finish and then set up rsync later
[22:13] <Bray90820> Can someone help me here my mouse/touchpad jumps to the right edge of the screen every time I try to move it
[22:14] <porkstore> i guess rsync will require an ssh daemon
[22:14] <nacc> porkstore: if you do it over ssh yes
[22:15] <porkstore> ssh is the most secure robust thing i think
[22:15] <k1l_> porkstore: if you would actually read what people in here answer you then it would make more sense
[22:15] <porkstore> sorry, i am reading everything
 rsync over ssh
[22:15] <porkstore> missed that
[22:19] <Capum321> pavlos: i see, so a partition /dev/sdaX with `UUID=numbersequence /media/username/ntfsPart    ntfs-3g        auto,user,rw 0 0` isn't the best of the worlds?
[22:21] <check_> up-to-date xubuntu-16.04.1-i386, I installed zsync to sync iso, and on the two times I've run it my system has kernal-panic rebooted??
[22:21] <k1l_> check_: why 32bit OS?
[22:21] <check_> very-old P4
[22:22] <k1l_> uh
[22:22] <check_> ok time to bin the hardware
[22:22] <Capum321> pavlos, so I should remove `auto,user,rw` in place of the uid,gid,umask,(defaults?) ??
[22:24] <porkstore> u guys seem good at computer
 I'll dload the daily iso, reinstall and try again, see what happs!  thanks
[22:26] <Capum321> porkstore: but still i am underpayed anyway
[22:26] <Capum321> porkstore: who gives the ....
[22:27] <porkstore> perhaps you should get involved in the dark side
[22:28] <DP_rision> anyone familiar with ethminer
[22:28] <DP_rision> can't get it to run on my server
[22:31] <OerHeks> DP_rision, ethminer is not in our repos, what guide do you follow?
[22:33] <DP_rision> a pool guide
[22:33] <DP_rision> alrighty
[22:33] <DP_rision> https://ethereumpool.co/how/
[22:34] <pavlos> Capum321, I'd try mount as read only, then go for RW where you have to enter your credentials. 'man mount' explains those options
[22:34] <OerHeks> DP_rision, and on what ubuntu version and what videocard?
[22:34] <DP_rision> 14.02
[22:35] <DP_rision> i believe it's the quadro k50
[22:35] <DP_rision> nvidia
[22:35] <nacc> DP_rision: do you mean 14.04.2?
[22:35] <DP_rision> yeah that's what i mean
[22:35] <nacc> DP_rision: you should upgrade to 14.04.5 (probably unrelated to what you are seeing)
[22:35] <nacc> DP_rision: 14.04.2 is eol (aiui)
[22:35] <nacc> DP_rision: or at least, unsupported now
[22:36] <OerHeks> 14.04.5 is current, but that is a detail
[22:36] <DP_rision> yeah
[22:40] <OerHeks> DP_rision, maybe it is a bug in the latest build, ( build 6,5 hrs ago) ?
[22:41] <OerHeks> just guessing, with sparse info ..
[22:41] <brotherBox> does anyone else have trouble logging in to skype on ubuntu
[22:42] <pavlos> I used skype this morning, did not have any issues
[22:43] <brotherBox> because when i try to log in it takes a minute or two and then it returns an error message that the connection couldnt be established
[22:45] <OerHeks> skype never worked for me, someone should start a #skype-on-linux-issues channel
[22:45] <brotherBox> someone should make a free version of skype
[22:46] <k1l_> didnt mozilla make one? and there is ekiga or such things? and google got something? its just that skype was bought by microsoft
[22:47] <OerHeks> tons of them
[22:47] <pavlos> I used skype from my 14.04 laptop with video ... no issues.
[22:47] <brotherBox> can you login via skype credentals though
[22:48] <pavlos> yes, my userid and pw
[22:48] <brotherBox> if you know what i mea
[22:48] <Yoshimatsu> Ubuntu!
[22:48] <k1l_> brotherBox: do you mean the business version?
[22:48] <brotherBox> no, just the normal version of skype from ubuntu 14.04 repo
[22:49] <pavlos> when skype starts, it pops a light-blue-green window, enter userid, pw and I'm in.
[22:49] <pavlos> dont know the color name
[22:50] <brotherBox> i enter my pass and that swirly thing appears but it doesnt log in
[22:50] <brotherBox> after 2m i get returned to the prompt
[22:50] <brotherBox> stange
[22:51] <Capum321> pavlos: no, i mean what i do with `auto,user,rw` ?
[22:51] <pavlos> remove your ~/.Skype dir and re-install skype ... just a thought
[22:53] <pavlos> Capum321, try this ... /dev/sda2   /mnt/excess ntfs-3g    permissions,locale=en_US.utf8    0   2
[22:53] <Capum321> this is getting nowhere
[22:54] <Capum321> 'permissions', 'locale' ?
[22:56] <pavlos> Capum321, instead of 0 2, use uid=number,gid=number which should be your credentials (type id on a terminal)
[22:57] <pavlos> Capum321, the answer voted 47 times explains those
[22:57] <porkstore> do you guys think i have to remove the samba init files manually to disable samba on reboot ?
[22:58] <Capum321> oh, i miss the link
[22:58] <pavlos> Capum321, http://askubuntu.com/questions/113733/how-do-i-correctly-mount-a-ntfs-partition-in-etc-fstab
[23:00] <Yoshimatsu> Ubuntu!
[23:00] <Yoshimatsu> Is nice
[23:01] <gabriel_> helo !!!
[23:01] <pavlos> porkstore, sudo systemctl disable smbd
[23:02] <gabriel_> Brasil
[23:02] <Yoshimatsu> gabriel_, nice game!
[23:02] <Yoshimatsu> gabriel_, helo
[23:02] <k1l_> !br | gabriel_
[23:02] <Yoshimatsu> gabriel_, Gabriel Knight!
[23:05] <nacc> Yoshimatsu: please stop
[23:06] <Yoshimatsu> nacc, yes!
[23:06] <MonkeyDust> Yoshimatsu  stop
[23:06] <dodge29>  
[23:07] <Yoshimatsu> !br
[23:07] <Yoshimatsu> ssorry
[23:08] <gabriel_> Why are they telling her to stop WHAT is she doing?
[23:09] <OerHeks> gabriel_, read the topic, this is ubuntu support only, not a chitchat fun channel
[23:09] <nacc> gabriel_: this is the Ubuntu support channel, please stay ontopic
[23:11] <gabriel_> I'm sorry not aware
[23:17] <Yoshimatsu> is there a ubuntu fun channel?
[23:17] <OerHeks> #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:18] <Yoshimatsu> thx
[23:19] <W0ndrC> exit
[23:19] <RlW> Goodnight guys
[23:27] <xodec> is anyone there ? i need help
[23:27] <OerHeks> !ask
[23:28] <kramun> hi, can someone help me boot 14.04 server custom with PXE?
[23:29] <kramun> as i am not using casper
[23:30] <germangirl> This one minute video is packed to the brim with crucial truth. A small tribe controls mass media and is using their power to destroy us.
[23:32] <kramun> I am getting the no boot media found if i boot it via memdisk, i understand that. but when i use the netboot initrd and  kernel, i can't install my custom iso, as it just installs the normal ubuntu via HTTP
[23:33] <bekks> kramun: I just setup my PXE here.
[23:33] <bekks> kramun: And I am using the netinstall along with a custom kickstart script.
[23:33] <kramun> bekks: so u know how i can boot into a ubuntu based custom image?
[23:34] <bekks> kramun: your custom changes are implemented using kickstart script?
[23:34] <kramun> i see, so u boot into netinst. and then u load your image via FTP or http?
[23:34] <kramun> no, it's actually a complete remastered image
[23:34] <bekks> kramun: I'm using http.
[23:35] <kramun> ok, so that's the way to go.... i thought i maybe can save to put it on my http-server
[23:35] <bekks> kramun: I put all my changes into a kickstart script, for being able to change the base image easily.
[23:35] <kramun> bekks: cuz nfs wasnt working
[23:36] <bekks> kramun: nfs is working fine here, too, after figuring that I'd need to use NFSv3 explicitely.
[23:36] <kramun> bekks: u changed the initrd or the kernel by yourself?
[23:36] <nacc> kramun: did you try what is suggested at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDNetboot ?
[23:36] <bekks> kramun: As a postinstall action, yes.
[23:37] <nacc> kramun: i'm not entirely sure i know what the use-case is, but kickstart/preseed might be an easier way to go than making a custom image
[23:37] <kramun> bekks: they always suggest the casper, which is not contained in my image
[23:37] <kramun> bekks: cuz i think it's the server version
[23:38] <bekks> kramun: casper was a mess in my testing phase :) Thats why I choose to go the kickstart way.
[23:38] <kramun> ok, thank you for your help, i can figure it out that way, i think, it has been a pain in the a** the last hours
[23:39] <kramun> so i will go with kickstart too, thanks a lot bekks :D
[23:39] <kramun> appreciate your help a lot
[23:39] <bekks> kramun: you're welcome
[23:39] <kramun> cu
[23:44] <porkstore> anyone know the name of the file manager that is a fork from nautilus
[23:44] <thesushimanoftao> hello room
[23:45] <k1l_> porkstore: nemo?
[23:45] <porkstore> i think it is nemo but i can't find nemo on my other computer that i thought was running it
[23:46] <thesushimanoftao> nemo
[23:46] <porkstore> maybe it's not called nemo
[23:46] <porkstore> i mean as a program
[23:46] <thesushimanoftao> http://www.webupd8.org/2016/03/nemo-with-unity-patches-available-for.html
[23:47] <porkstore> it is nemo
[23:47] <porkstore> but when i type which nemo i get nothing
[23:48] <steve973> Hello.  Is there a safe way to upgrade to kernel v 4.7 in xenial?
[23:49] <porkstore> oh i was ssh to another machine doh
[23:49] <nacc> steve973: define safe? not in any supported way
[23:49] <nacc> steve973: wait for 16.04.2 (which will have 4.8)
[23:49] <Jordan_U> steve973: What is your end goal?
[23:49] <cyphase> porkstore, so you were having trouble finding nemo?
[23:50] <steve973> I specifically run elementary os but it is based on xenial.
[23:50] <bekks> !elementaryos | steve973
[23:50] <bekks> !elementary | steve973
[23:50] <StrongJava> snort 2.9.7.0 is what comes with Ubuntu 16.04. Pulledpork requires (unless I hardcode the config) me to upgrade snort to 2.9.7.6. Do I have to roll my own snort or is there another way to upgrade it?
[23:50] <steve973> Sure, I'm there too and also asked there, with no reply.
[23:51] <xodec> i am on manjaro i was on arch but i have problem with all linux distrus i can't use a high resolution in my monitor all drivers are good i tested them on samsung tv with HDMI all good but i have an adapter between pc monitor and GPU from DVI output I only have 1024x768 nowin my PC monitor
[23:51] <k1l_> xodec: ask manjoran support or ##linux
[23:51] <k1l_> *manjaro
[23:51] <xodec> same problem was on ubuntu
[23:52] <nacc> StrongJava: you will probably have to build your own
[23:52] <nacc> StrongJava: unless it's in a ppa
[23:52] <xodec> i think its EDID
[23:52] <k1l_> xodec: that is nothing we can change on arch or manjaro. so please ask them.
[23:52] <xodec> but how to fix it
[23:52] <Jordan_U> xodec: Please pastebin the output of "dmesg --human" from Ubuntu then. (Not from Manjaro or any other distro).
[23:52] <xodec> ok what is name of channel i am new
[23:53] <k1l_> xodec: ##linux for general linux support
[23:53] <StrongJava> nacc Good idea. Searching now.
[23:53] <xodec> ok tnx
[23:56] <masnell> xodec: AFAIK randr cmd lets you add or force resolution settings. Ur adapter from DVI to HDMI may be interfering with gfx card / vdu signal
[23:59] <jean_> I AM