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| t2mkn | hello | 05:39 |
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| iliv | test test one two one two | 06:04 |
| t2mkn | Test successful | 06:06 |
| Gorian | I'm always surprised at how dead this IRC is for how popular and un-niche ubuntu server is | 06:36 |
| Gorian | compared to like, #reddit-sysadmin or #datahoarder | 06:36 |
| jamespage | coreycb, zul, ddellav: I did the ceilometer and nova uploads for release | 08:09 |
| rbasak | Gorian: apparently it's cooler to slate the devs rather than talk to them :-/ | 08:39 |
| jamespage | coreycb, ddellav, zul: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/+bug/1631304 | 09:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1631304 in nova (Ubuntu) "apt-get install nova-compute has odd configuration order" [Medium,Triaged] | 09:11 |
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| coreycb | jamespage, that would explain the autopkgtest failure on arm | 11:41 |
| jamespage | coreycb, i hit it on amd64 testing locally | 11:41 |
| coreycb | jamespage, thanks for the fix. I couldn't figure out what was going on there. | 11:45 |
| zul | coreycb/jamespage/dddav: i synched magnum | 12:30 |
| coreycb | zul, thanks. I'm taking a look at sahara and zaqar syncs. | 12:58 |
| zul | coreycb: ill take mistral | 13:00 |
| coreycb | zul, +1 | 13:01 |
| coreycb | zul, sahara and zaqar synced | 13:13 |
| coreycb | zul, looking at syncing pandas for gnocchi | 13:14 |
| zul | pandas? | 13:20 |
| coreycb | zul, yes, but not the fuzzy ones | 13:24 |
| coreycb | zul, looking at congress and ironic-inspector | 13:25 |
| coreycb | zul, pandas is synced | 13:25 |
| coreycb | appears to be too early for congress | 13:26 |
| zul | coreycb: k | 13:26 |
| coreycb | zul, looking at murano | 13:27 |
| zul | coreycb: synched mistral | 13:28 |
| zul | coreycb: senlin isnt updated either | 13:34 |
| coreycb | zul, ok | 13:36 |
| coreycb | zul, murano and ironic-inspector synced, looking at murano-agent | 13:36 |
| coreycb | jamespage, did you sync neutron-dynamic-routing? | 13:39 |
| coreycb | zul, murano-agent synced | 13:42 |
| jamespage | coreycb, not yet | 14:00 |
| jamespage | coreycb, lp has not noticed in unstable | 14:00 |
| coreycb | jamespage, ok | 14:00 |
| lucidguy | What do you guys use for IDS/IPS? | 14:11 |
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| georgios | hello | 15:17 |
| georgios | i see there exist userspace utils related to grsecurity, but where is the kernel? | 15:17 |
| blablablabla | hi all :) | 15:31 |
| btorch | hi is there someway to still upgrade from lucid -> precise -> trusty ? I see that lucid is no longer on archive | 15:43 |
| btorch | so do-release-upgrade fails due to that | 15:44 |
| nacc | !eol | btorch | 15:44 |
| ubottu | btorch: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 15:44 |
| btorch | thanks | 15:44 |
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| btorch | hmm still getting the WARNING: Failed to read mirror file even after the EOL changes | 16:21 |
| btorch | yeah this isn't working well https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 16:59 |
| btorch | Err http://old-releases.ubuntu.com lucid/main Translation-en | 17:01 |
| rbasak | btorch: are you asking for help? If so I suggest you present your entire problem rather than just snippets. Eg. pastebin your sources.list, explain the command you're typing, and so on. | 17:01 |
| btorch | yeah sorry , will do so | 17:02 |
| btorch | so this is the issue I'm seeing http://pastebin.ca/3726205 and I'm wondering if there is another way around it or if it might be ok to proceed with only having the main sources.list repo | 17:16 |
| blizzow | What's the tool that runs during a server install that allows you to choose various roles (ssh server, virtualization server, samba server...)? I'd like to run it post-install if possible. | 17:23 |
| rbasak | blizzow: tasksel | 17:23 |
| blizzow | rbasak: thanks. | 17:24 |
| Gorian | rbasak that's sad | 17:47 |
| Gorian | also, I just realized you said that to me like, 10 hours ago :p | 17:47 |
| rbasak | Gorian: :) | 18:10 |
| Gorian | bouncer pinged me as soon as I logged :p | 18:10 |
| rbasak | Gorian: it was shortly after I saw a blog post about an investigation into an apparent bug in Ubuntu, but to my knowledge no bug report | 18:10 |
| rbasak | Maybe I was a bit harsh at the time. | 18:10 |
| Gorian | meh, I get that. People can be super opinionated about things they could never do themselves | 18:11 |
| Gorian | lol | 18:11 |
| rbasak | I don't mind people blogging about disagreeing with us. | 18:11 |
| rbasak | People have opinions, we can only choose one default, people will disagree and that's fine. | 18:12 |
| rbasak | It's when they rant about an issue they don't bother to even tell us about that bugs me. | 18:12 |
| Gorian | yeah, I get that | 18:13 |
| cpaelzer | I have a mac and know the host that has it is alive - can I force it to reveal its IP? | 18:13 |
| cpaelzer | might get too late :-/ | 18:13 |
| Gorian | are you an Ubuntu dev? | 18:13 |
| rbasak | Yes, as is cpaelzer. All the Ubuntu server devs hang out here :) | 18:13 |
| Gorian | rbasak: I try to be that person that makes pull requests, finds solutions to bugs I complain about, etc. if I can | 18:13 |
| cpaelzer | yep | 18:13 |
| Gorian | rbasak: oh cool! | 18:13 |
| Gorian | rbasak, cpaelzer thank you :) | 18:14 |
| Gorian | I use Ubuntu all the time ,3 | 18:14 |
| Gorian | * <3 | 18:14 |
| rbasak | You're welcome :) | 18:14 |
| Gorian | now, go get me zfs in the server installer! :P | 18:14 |
| Gorian | lol | 18:14 |
| rbasak | Good quality pull requests, bug reports and commentary are also always welcome :) | 18:15 |
| cpaelzer | what did you say about pull requests :-) | 18:15 |
| Gorian | haha. I'm a DevOps engineer. Changing a script in a web application is more in my skillset than changing OS code :( | 18:15 |
| Gorian | but, I was joking when I said that :p | 18:15 |
| rbasak | We do have to deal with a ton of poor quality reports too, so if you do happen to get lost in the noise, please do bring it up here. We're striving to give a clear answer to every report, even if that's "sorry, too low a priority in general, we probably won't get to it, patches welcome". | 18:16 |
| rbasak | OTOH, we've been prioritising landing actual patch submissions. | 18:16 |
| Gorian | heh, will do. I haven't actually encountered anything to report in Ubuntu ever, personally | 18:16 |
| Gorian | but, right now, I have 4 servers I'm having to boot into with a livecd, and then install on top of zfs with debootstrap | 18:17 |
| georgios | i see there exist userspace utils related to grsecurity, but where is the kernel? | 18:17 |
| rbasak | georgios: AFAIK, we don't carry a grsecurity kernel (does any major distro?) but you can ask the kernel team in #ubuntu-kernel | 18:17 |
| georgios | ok | 18:18 |
| cpaelzer | georgios: and also despite all flame wars quite some grsec feats went mainline, so the tools get more and more applicable even in non-special environments | 18:18 |
| georgios | ok. i was ready to ask about that | 18:19 |
| Gorian | rbasak: so, what do you think of btrfs vs. zfs? | 18:19 |
| rbasak | I think that both are available on Ubuntu :-) | 18:19 |
| Gorian | technically, yes | 18:21 |
| Gorian | I was just asking your opinion though :p | 18:21 |
| Gorian | you can't easily install Ubuntu 16.04 on top of zfs as root | 18:21 |
| rbasak | I wouldn't try too hard to get a zfs root. Far easier just to mount /srv for a workload or whatever. | 18:22 |
| rbasak | I don't think I know enough about modern btrfs vs. zfs to have a qualified opinion. | 18:22 |
| Gorian | fair enough | 18:24 |
| Gorian | but, the whole point of using one was to use it as a root filesystem :p | 18:25 |
| rbasak | Why do you need one as a root filesystem? | 18:25 |
| Gorian | well, other option is ext4+mdraid for a software mirror | 18:26 |
| Gorian | decided I like btrfs or zfs better:p | 18:26 |
| Gorian | but btrfs was being grumpier than zfs when trying to manually install with debootstrap, because my servers don't want to work right and install from a cd | 18:27 |
| rbasak | Personally, I'd still use ext4+mdraid unless you actually need zfs/btrfs features. | 18:29 |
| Gorian | interesting | 18:29 |
| Gorian | so, is it sad that I only recently found out about using apt instead of apt-get? | 18:29 |
| rbasak | It's not possible for everyone to keep up with everything. Every so often I catch up on something, but there are always plenty of things I haven't caught up on yet. | 18:30 |
| rbasak | I only stated *using* apt instead of apt-get in the last month or so, though obviously with my job I knew about it a long time ago. | 18:31 |
| rbasak | I still haven't learnt tmux and don't use byobu regularly because screen works fine for me in most cases. | 18:31 |
| Gorian | I barely use tmux | 18:31 |
| rbasak | (though I fire up byobu whenever sharing with someone else because that's far easier) | 18:31 |
| Gorian | I'm never at a linux GUI and just use multiple ssh sessions | 18:32 |
| Gorian | byobu? | 18:32 |
| rbasak | It's a friendly wrapper around screen/tmux | 18:32 |
| rbasak | Great for sharing a screen with someone else, since it Just Works for that without requiring the other person to know how to use anything. | 18:33 |
| Gorian | Bring Your Own Butter and Unagi? | 18:33 |
| Gorian | inetersting | 18:33 |
| Gorian | *interesting | 18:33 |
| compdoc | I started using apt instead of apt-get too | 18:56 |
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