=== JanC is now known as Guest21552 === JanC_ is now known as JanC === cpaelzer_ is now known as cpaelzer [05:39] hello [06:04] test test one two one two [06:06] Test successful [06:36] I'm always surprised at how dead this IRC is for how popular and un-niche ubuntu server is [06:36] compared to like, #reddit-sysadmin or #datahoarder [08:09] coreycb, zul, ddellav: I did the ceilometer and nova uploads for release [08:39] Gorian: apparently it's cooler to slate the devs rather than talk to them :-/ [09:11] coreycb, ddellav, zul: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/+bug/1631304 [09:11] Launchpad bug 1631304 in nova (Ubuntu) "apt-get install nova-compute has odd configuration order" [Medium,Triaged] === Biokee is now known as Guest57190 === chmurifree is now known as chmuri [11:41] jamespage, that would explain the autopkgtest failure on arm [11:41] coreycb, i hit it on amd64 testing locally [11:45] jamespage, thanks for the fix. I couldn't figure out what was going on there. [12:30] coreycb/jamespage/dddav: i synched magnum [12:58] zul, thanks. I'm taking a look at sahara and zaqar syncs. [13:00] coreycb: ill take mistral [13:01] zul, +1 [13:13] zul, sahara and zaqar synced [13:14] zul, looking at syncing pandas for gnocchi [13:20] pandas? [13:24] zul, yes, but not the fuzzy ones [13:25] zul, looking at congress and ironic-inspector [13:25] zul, pandas is synced [13:26] appears to be too early for congress [13:26] coreycb: k [13:27] zul, looking at murano [13:28] coreycb: synched mistral [13:34] coreycb: senlin isnt updated either [13:36] zul, ok [13:36] zul, murano and ironic-inspector synced, looking at murano-agent [13:39] jamespage, did you sync neutron-dynamic-routing? [13:42] zul, murano-agent synced [14:00] coreycb, not yet [14:00] coreycb, lp has not noticed in unstable [14:00] jamespage, ok [14:11] What do you guys use for IDS/IPS? === jgrimm is now known as jgrimm-out === IdleOne is now known as Guest84871 === ReScO_ is now known as ReScO === tanuki_ is now known as tanuki [15:17] hello [15:17] i see there exist userspace utils related to grsecurity, but where is the kernel? [15:31] hi all :) [15:43] hi is there someway to still upgrade from lucid -> precise -> trusty ? I see that lucid is no longer on archive [15:44] so do-release-upgrade fails due to that [15:44] !eol | btorch [15:44] btorch: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [15:44] thanks === frickler_ is now known as frickler [16:21] hmm still getting the WARNING: Failed to read mirror file even after the EOL changes [16:59] yeah this isn't working well https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [17:01] Err http://old-releases.ubuntu.com lucid/main Translation-en [17:01] btorch: are you asking for help? If so I suggest you present your entire problem rather than just snippets. Eg. pastebin your sources.list, explain the command you're typing, and so on. [17:02] yeah sorry , will do so [17:16] so this is the issue I'm seeing http://pastebin.ca/3726205 and I'm wondering if there is another way around it or if it might be ok to proceed with only having the main sources.list repo [17:23] What's the tool that runs during a server install that allows you to choose various roles (ssh server, virtualization server, samba server...)? I'd like to run it post-install if possible. [17:23] blizzow: tasksel [17:24] rbasak: thanks. [17:47] rbasak that's sad [17:47] also, I just realized you said that to me like, 10 hours ago :p [18:10] Gorian: :) [18:10] bouncer pinged me as soon as I logged :p [18:10] Gorian: it was shortly after I saw a blog post about an investigation into an apparent bug in Ubuntu, but to my knowledge no bug report [18:10] Maybe I was a bit harsh at the time. [18:11] meh, I get that. People can be super opinionated about things they could never do themselves [18:11] lol [18:11] I don't mind people blogging about disagreeing with us. [18:12] People have opinions, we can only choose one default, people will disagree and that's fine. [18:12] It's when they rant about an issue they don't bother to even tell us about that bugs me. [18:13] yeah, I get that [18:13] I have a mac and know the host that has it is alive - can I force it to reveal its IP? [18:13] might get too late :-/ [18:13] are you an Ubuntu dev? [18:13] Yes, as is cpaelzer. All the Ubuntu server devs hang out here :) [18:13] rbasak: I try to be that person that makes pull requests, finds solutions to bugs I complain about, etc. if I can [18:13] yep [18:13] rbasak: oh cool! [18:14] rbasak, cpaelzer thank you :) [18:14] I use Ubuntu all the time ,3 [18:14] * <3 [18:14] You're welcome :) [18:14] now, go get me zfs in the server installer! :P [18:14] lol [18:15] Good quality pull requests, bug reports and commentary are also always welcome :) [18:15] what did you say about pull requests :-) [18:15] haha. I'm a DevOps engineer. Changing a script in a web application is more in my skillset than changing OS code :( [18:15] but, I was joking when I said that :p [18:16] We do have to deal with a ton of poor quality reports too, so if you do happen to get lost in the noise, please do bring it up here. We're striving to give a clear answer to every report, even if that's "sorry, too low a priority in general, we probably won't get to it, patches welcome". [18:16] OTOH, we've been prioritising landing actual patch submissions. [18:16] heh, will do. I haven't actually encountered anything to report in Ubuntu ever, personally [18:17] but, right now, I have 4 servers I'm having to boot into with a livecd, and then install on top of zfs with debootstrap [18:17] i see there exist userspace utils related to grsecurity, but where is the kernel? [18:17] georgios: AFAIK, we don't carry a grsecurity kernel (does any major distro?) but you can ask the kernel team in #ubuntu-kernel [18:18] ok [18:18] georgios: and also despite all flame wars quite some grsec feats went mainline, so the tools get more and more applicable even in non-special environments [18:19] ok. i was ready to ask about that [18:19] rbasak: so, what do you think of btrfs vs. zfs? [18:19] I think that both are available on Ubuntu :-) [18:21] technically, yes [18:21] I was just asking your opinion though :p [18:21] you can't easily install Ubuntu 16.04 on top of zfs as root [18:22] I wouldn't try too hard to get a zfs root. Far easier just to mount /srv for a workload or whatever. [18:22] I don't think I know enough about modern btrfs vs. zfs to have a qualified opinion. [18:24] fair enough [18:25] but, the whole point of using one was to use it as a root filesystem :p [18:25] Why do you need one as a root filesystem? [18:26] well, other option is ext4+mdraid for a software mirror [18:26] decided I like btrfs or zfs better:p [18:27] but btrfs was being grumpier than zfs when trying to manually install with debootstrap, because my servers don't want to work right and install from a cd [18:29] Personally, I'd still use ext4+mdraid unless you actually need zfs/btrfs features. [18:29] interesting [18:29] so, is it sad that I only recently found out about using apt instead of apt-get? [18:30] It's not possible for everyone to keep up with everything. Every so often I catch up on something, but there are always plenty of things I haven't caught up on yet. [18:31] I only stated *using* apt instead of apt-get in the last month or so, though obviously with my job I knew about it a long time ago. [18:31] I still haven't learnt tmux and don't use byobu regularly because screen works fine for me in most cases. [18:31] I barely use tmux [18:31] (though I fire up byobu whenever sharing with someone else because that's far easier) [18:32] I'm never at a linux GUI and just use multiple ssh sessions [18:32] byobu? [18:32] It's a friendly wrapper around screen/tmux [18:33] Great for sharing a screen with someone else, since it Just Works for that without requiring the other person to know how to use anything. [18:33] Bring Your Own Butter and Unagi? 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