[00:00] <mhall> I hit upon some very weird language when upgrading a 14.04.X server to 16.04.1 today. The postfix package said it wanted to change "This upgrade of postfix changes some default values in the configuration. As part of this upgrade, the following will be changed: (1) chrooted components will be changed from '-' to 'y' in master.cf.". But it didn't say enough for me to be able to make this change properly /
[00:01] <mhall> safely. Does it mean replace every single '-' in the chroot column in master.cf with 'y' or only some of them? Extremely confusing.
[00:01] <jean_> I am neaw user , how can I start LAN, I have access to internet but I cannot open facebook or mail!! ??
[00:01] <StrongJava> nacc Looks like I'll be building it.
 method-1 gave kernel-panic, method-2 worked ok!, maybe a network related issue.   http://paste.ubuntu.com/23286849/
 yeah might be right im on 14.04.5
[00:04] <ceme> exit
[00:10] <thesushimanoftao> anyone comfortable weird stuff in the networking world?
[00:13] <Suntop_Kinseeker> I saw in here this morning that someone said there is a 3D desktop?  Hmm like real 3D icons not visually 3D (2D rendered in a what that looks like 3D)
[00:13] <Suntop_Kinseeker> hmmm\
[00:13] <Suntop_Kinseeker> \
[00:18] <lordcirth> !ask | thesushimanoftao
[00:18] <thesushimanoftao> has anyone had a correlative experience that when working with system files the mouse becomes erratic?
[00:19] <lordcirth> thesushimanoftao, define 'working with system files'
[00:20] <thesushimanoftao> inside system manager, editing/inspecting network files
[00:20] <thesushimanoftao> thanks cirth
[00:21] <lordcirth> thesushimanoftao, that is a very strange problem.  Are you sure it's not just performance?
[00:22] <nacc> what is system manager?
[00:22] <thesushimanoftao> i run side by side an old dell laptop w 4gb and a centrino and a 16gb amd 4100 box
[00:23] <thesushimanoftao> dont think its performance
[00:23] <thesushimanoftao> nacc settings manager
[00:24] <nacc> thesushimanoftao: what files are you referring to? do you mean 'settings'? what version of ubuntu?
[00:24] <thesushimanoftao> 16 04
[00:25] <thesushimanoftao> I am not accessing the files, the computer is doing loading chrome of a machine with an SDD drive should take secs not minutes
[00:26] <thesushimanoftao> when I disconnect the network cable the problem goes away
[00:26] <nacc> thesushimanoftao: you just said "working with system files", "editing/inspecting network files", how are you "not accessing the files"?
[00:27] <nacc> thesushimanoftao: do you have some network shares or anything?
[00:27] <thesushimanoftao> I am not editing, i am not starting system processes, but i notice the problem correlatively not causally
[00:28] <thesushimanoftao> shouldn't using stock install of 1604 studio
[00:28] <nacc> thesushimanoftao: ok, so what you said before wasn't true?
[00:29] <thesushimanoftao> nacc if you are going to say what i said wasn't true, please cut and paste
[00:29] <nacc> tehtraveler2321: uh, i just did?
[00:29] <nacc> tehtraveler2321: sorry
[00:29] <nacc> thesushimanoftao: i just did?
[00:31] <thesushimanoftao> I was doing that which should be automatic, I was not doing stuff in terminal.  I dont know the cultural lingo for linux yet, I was doing normal stuff and the problem showed up and the only correlative experience I did not want to proclaim causality, just looking for help in how to troubbleshoot
[00:32] <eeytan> Hi. I have a strange font issue. It seems to only happen with proprietary software (like Perforce or Android studio.) Some fonts render as extremely tall with no spaces or very tall and not render. There's an example here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/834024/some-forms-render-wrong-probably-due-to-font-problem
[00:33] <nacc> thesushimanoftao: the only things you said you were doing so far, you've now said you weren't doing, so I feel like you should start over and say exactly what the problem is
[00:34] <porkstore> anyone have any idea why i seem to have lost the ability to select where my task bars are displayed in multiple monitors ?
[00:35] <porkstore> i am thinking this happened with upgrade to 16.04
[00:35] <thesushimanoftao> while surfing, although sometime not, with network connected, the computer seems to lug, the mouse skips and stalls, and applications seem to freeze even though task manager shows no activity
[00:35] <thesushimanoftao> better starting point nacc?
[00:35] <porkstore> with gnome flashback
[00:35] <nacc> thesushimanoftao: yes, i have no idea why you mentioned settings manager earlier :)
[00:36] <nacc> thesushimanoftao: sounds like buggy hardware to me
[00:36] <thesushimanoftao> nacc do you have a good hardware diagnostics iso you could send me to?
[00:37] <nacc> thesushimanoftao: it doesn't happen when your network is disconnected? naything in `dmesg` output that stands out (feel free to run `dmesg | pastebinit` and provide the url here)
[00:41] <thesushimanoftao> as a part of my troubleshooting i wanted to see if it was connected to network usage and as a step, disconnecting the network cable the behavior subsided
[00:42] <nacc> thesushimanoftao: you also didn't answer if you have network shares -- how is your network connected? usb adapter or anything
[00:43] <thesushimanoftao> i have not conciously turned on any networking other than tcp/ip  not sharing anything
[00:47] <Moxxie> Greetings all
[00:48] <nacc> thesushimanoftao: i'm not sure, sorry
[00:50] <jean_> sorry! someone can help me for instruction with stepconfig for cnc??
[00:50] <nacc> jean_: sorry, is that an ubuntu pacakge?
[00:51] <jean_> yes nacc
[00:51] <nacc> jean_: what's the package name?
[00:51] <jean_> unbuntu 10.04
[00:51] <nacc> jean_: 10.04 is eol
[00:51] <nacc> jean_: unsupported now
[00:51] <jean_> cnc 2.5.5
[00:51] <nacc> jean_: please consider upgrading ASAP, as you are vulnerable to security issues most likely
[00:52] <jean_> version 16.04 dont run cnc emc2!! I thinks
[00:52] <nacc> jean_: sorry, can't help with 10.04 issues
[00:52] <chaospsychex> I have 12.04 installed. If I update to 14.04 via the update manager will my wireless network adapter still work?
[00:52] <nacc> chaospsychex: it *should* but it really depends. You may want to try 14.04.5 live usb and see how it looks there
[00:53] <chaospsychex> nacc, ok. what about updates relative to 12.04? should i install those? it's not going to update the installed kernel is it? A later kernel version might break wifi..
[00:54] <nacc> chaospsychex: sorry, not sure what you mean by 'updates relative to 12.04'?
[00:54] <jean_> nacc I try a lot of version! debian to!!! and 10.04 is running on demo mode problem is the configuaration for activate the cnc
[00:54] <nacc> jean_: that's fine, but not ontopic here. 10.04 is eol and unsupported
[00:54] <nacc> !eol | jean_
[00:55] <chaospsychex> nacc, software updates for 12.04. there's alot of them showing in the update manager
[00:55] <nacc> chaospsychex: you should certainly always install the security updates, at least
[00:55] <nacc> chaospsychex: not doing so puts your system at risk
[00:55] <jean_> thank you ubottu I go to read that
[00:56] <chaospsychex> nacc, there's more than security updates showing. application updates, library updates, e.t.c. hundreds...
[00:56] <nacc> chaospsychex: other updates are also generally acceptable within a release, rarely will a version fully change. It will almost certian update kernel
[00:56] <nacc> chaospsychex: sounds like you've been ignoring updates, which is not a good idea
[00:57] <nacc> chaospsychex: you can change whether you get paakge updates via your sources.list configuration -- not specifying -updates, -backports, etc. But you should always have -security enabled and update regularly
[00:58] <jean_> someone is running emc2 or linuxcnc with the version 16.04?
[01:00] <chaospsychex> nacc, not ignoring. i just installed 12.04
[01:01] <chaospsychex> nacc, i haven't changed update repos. i just want to make sure that the kernel doesn't get updated
[01:01] <nacc> chaospsychex: did you not install the daily iso? might be plenty of updates
[01:01] <nacc> chaospsychex: the kernel might update even with seucrity fixes
[01:01] <hello> hello guys
[01:01] <nacc> chaospsychex: not the kernel base version, but the kernel as seen in e.g., `uname -a`
[01:01] <hello> I am new to this
[01:02] <jean_> chaospsychex: are you using linuxCNC ?
[01:02] <chaospsychex> nacc, i installed the 12.04 iso from ubuntu.com.
[01:02] <Eli-5dce> hello : need any help?
[01:02] <nacc> chaospsychex: 12.04.5?
[01:02] <chaospsychex> jean_, linuxCNC?
[01:02] <hello> Hi Eli
[01:02] <chaospsychex> nacc, yup
[01:02] <nacc> chaospsychex: ok, it's not unexpected that you might need updates
[01:02] <hello> could you please tell how can i add more server in my chat IRC
[01:02] <nacc> chaospsychex: is there any reason you're choosing to install 12.04.5 ?
[01:02] <nacc> chaospsychex: as opposed to 14.04.5 or 16.04.1 i mean
[01:03] <chaospsychex> nacc, i'm using an older hp g6 and 12.04 was chosen because wireless network adapter worked out of the box
[01:03] <chaospsychex> i hate realtek and broadcom chips
[01:03] <nacc> chaospsychex: 12.04.5 goes eol in a few months
[01:03] <nacc> chaospsychex: that's why i was asking
[01:03] <nacc> chaospsychex: did you try with 14.04.5 or 16.04.1?
[01:04] <chaospsychex> nacc, i will check 14.04. if i try a live usb 14.04 and wireless is working, is it safe to update to 14.04 from 12.04 update manager?
[01:04] <nacc> chaospsychex: if you just installed, why not just reinstall?
[01:04] <nacc> chaospsychex: that will be significantly faster
[01:04] <chaospsychex> nacc, because i have already configured the machine, installed necessary apps and such...
[01:05] <nacc> chaospsychex: ok, that's not 'just installed' :)
[01:05] <chaospsychex> i'll update to 14.04
[01:05] <nacc> chaospsychex: well, it's relative
[01:05] <chaospsychex> nacc, true, lol
[01:05] <nacc> chaospsychex: i wouldn't update unless you check it works with live first
[01:05] <chaospsychex> nacc, will do
[01:06] <jean_> I test on virtual box
[01:07] <chaospsychex> jean_, you test on vbox? why? it virtualizes hardware
[01:09] <jean_> lol because I use win 10 to! and I have (sometime) badlock with that
[01:10] <jean_> I think linux cnc is not running on ubuntu 16.04
[01:10] <nacc> jean_: afaict, linuxcnc is not an ubuntu package, you'd need to talk to their developers
[01:10] <nacc> jean_: gl!
[01:11] <jean_> this application is not on the rep. of software avalaible , I am going to search again!!!
[01:11] <nacc> jean_: linuxcnc's guide says to use 12.04 and their repository
[01:11] <nacc> jean_: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/getting-started/getting-linuxcnc.html#_installing_on_ubuntu_precise
[01:12] <jean_> this doc is for ubuntu 12.0...
[01:13] <chaospsychex> jean_, are you familiar with linux?
[01:14] <jean_> ok if I upgrade to 12.04 .... I think it's good but If I return because some bug! anithing I can change
[01:14] <thesushimanoftao> nacc: i got that output for you on the dmesg output
[01:14] <nacc> jean_: i'm not sure i follow. linuxcnc is not an ubuntu package. you would need to talk to the linuxcnc developers if you have problems with it. not here
[01:14] <nacc> thesushimanoftao: ok, link?
[01:15] <jean_> chaospsychex:  I am a new user but I start a long time ago with computer (1978)
[01:15] <chaospsychex> jean_,  you don't 'upgrade' from 12.10 to 12.04
[01:15] <nacc> chaospsychex: jean_ is on 10.04
[01:15] <chaospsychex> jean_,  lol 1978?
[01:15] <chaospsychex> nacc, oh ok
[01:15] <jean_> reinstall
[01:15] <chaospsychex> jean_, well you're on irc. that's a start
[01:15] <jean_> yes modem 110 baud my first ....
[01:16] <jean_> lolll I.m not a military
[01:17] <chaospsychex> is unity better on 16.04? i don't like unity's workflow....
[01:17] <thesushimanoftao> https://www.dropbox.com/s/xmk69wjtzwqal5w/output.odt?dl=0
[01:18] <jean_> I am going to make a test before on virtual computer
[01:18] <chaospsychex> jean_, yeah, a virtual machine instance is perfect for what you're trying to do
[01:21] <jean_> last experience I alterated the track of index
[01:22] <jean_> now I have capacity to run in memory a large capacity with my first computer but for cnc I use a 32 bits computer and less memory and capacity!!
[01:22] <thesushimanoftao> nacc thanks for the help
[01:24] <chaospsychex> can i install the cinnamon desktop ?
[01:25] <chaospsychex> on top of ubuntu
[01:25] <jean_> thank you all (have a good night)
[01:26] <OerHeks> !info cinnamon-desktop-environment
[01:26] <OerHeks> just 10 kb, chaospsychex
[01:27] <chaospsychex> OerHeks, o.0 that can't be right
[01:27] <folkrav> chaospsychex: metapackage lol
[01:27] <OerHeks> smile, only the metapackage is 10 kb
[01:27] <chaospsychex> folkrav, meaning?
[01:27] <folkrav> its a "false" package
[01:27] <folkrav> just telling the package manager to get other packages
[01:27] <OerHeks> it is like the index page
[01:27] <folkrav> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MetaPackages
[01:28] <chaospsychex> folkrav, oh ok. why is a 'meta' pkg needed ?
[01:28] <folkrav> to install a lot of packages at once, even if theyre not directly depending on each other
[01:28] <OerHeks> Else you would need to install all packagenames, that is not conveniant
[01:29] <folkrav> most desktop environments are like that, they come with software, tools, etc
[01:29] <OerHeks> !info ubuntu-desktop
[01:30] <OerHeks> synaptic packagemanager shows the real space needed.
[01:30] <chaospsychex> should i anticipate problems if i install it? i just pick cinnamon from login screen after installation ?
[01:31] <folkrav> normally its just that
[01:31] <OerHeks> jups
[01:31] <OerHeks> cinnamon takes 293 mb on disk
[01:32] <OerHeks> ubottu cannot calculate that, she does not know 32 or 64 bit, etc
[01:32] <folkrav> :)
[01:35] <cash> Hello Every1
[01:36] <cash> Nvidia on ubuntu Gnome cant get the backlight keys to adjust brightness.  Anyone have a suggestion?  The fix of editing xorg.conf works on regular ubuntu but not ubuntu :(
[01:36] <hello> need help to understand and add new server in network list (Hexchat)
[01:37] <lordcirth> hello, you hit Add?
[01:37] <lordcirth> Then Edit
[01:38] <hello> I did but how can i add new network i mean      Agora Anonymous - Agorist IRC server
[01:38] <hello>     plaintext ports: 6667
[01:40] <lordcirth> hello, you Edit and add the details you were given.
[01:50] <neildugan> I have a virbr0 bridge setup by libvirt (I think) ... if I use VirtualBox and set its network configuration to bridge->virbr0 ... shouldn't I have two interfaces connected to virbr0 ?
[01:53] <rambling_dan> I have a Radeon R9 270 2gb. Should I install the propreitary drivers for it or leave it alone?
[01:56] <Bashing-om> rambling_dan: What release ? as there is no proprietary driver for that card in 16.04 ( AMD throwing full support to open source ) .
[01:56] <lordcirth> neildugan, in theory yes, but you probably shouldn't have Vbox use libvirt's networking.  That's a bit messy.
[01:57] <neildugan> lordcirth, messy! why? ... the dnsmasq etc. should already be setup
[01:58] <lordcirth> neildugan, it will probably work.  Just seems a bit weird to me.  Why not just use libvirt for the VM?
[01:59] <neildugan> lordcirth, the primary reason is I wanted to run a Windows VM , and VirtualBox does a better job at that.
[02:00] <rambling_dan> Bashing-om: 16.04. So I don't have to worry about it at all?
[02:00] <C06> Hi all I upgraded my system it got into emergency mode
[02:00] <C06> How to solve this error
[02:00] <rambling_dan> Bashing-om: throwing as in getting rid of or helping?
[02:00] <rambling_dan> brb switching to "pantato" user
[02:01] <pantato> hi
[02:02] <Bashing-om> pantato: You have the right of it . The driver provided in the kernel is what is right .
[02:03] <chaospsychex> how can i play .mkv files?
[02:05] <lordcirth> chaospsychex, most media players support it.  You can try VLC, for example.
[02:06] <chaospsychex> lordcirth,  i have a .mkv file that vlc won't play. does it mean that the file is corrupted ?
[02:06] <lordcirth> chaospsychex, does vlc give an error
[02:06] <lordcirth> ?*
[02:07] <chaospsychex> lordcirth, no suitable decoder found is what vlc is saying
[02:07] <lordcirth> chaospsychex, let me guess, you chose not to install 3rd-party codecs during installer?
[02:08] <folkrav> chaospsychex: damn if vlc is complaining about a file O.o
[02:08] <lordcirth> chaospsychex, try install vlc-plugin-libde265
[02:08] <chaospsychex> lordcirth, i chose to install 3rd-party codecs
[02:10] <chaospsychex> lordcirth, how? apt-get doesn't find it
[02:10] <lordcirth> chaospsychex, apparently it's been renamed to libde265-0
[02:11] <chaospsychex> E: Unable to locate package libde265-0
[02:12] <chaospsychex> lordcirth,  unable to locate libde265-0
[02:12] <lordcirth> chaospsychex, what Ubuntu version?
[02:12] <lordcirth> !info libde265-0
[02:12] <chaospsychex> lordcirth, 12.04
[02:12] <pantato> hey so i screwed up my lubuntu by making an adjustment to /etc/modules and i am trying to boot into recovery mode but its now working. Anyway i can access that file froma live usb?
[02:13] <lordcirth> chaospsychex, ok, well, 'apt search libde265'. but it might not be there, 12.04 was 4 years ago.
[02:13] <lordcirth> pantato, yes, just mount the / partition and edit the file as root.
[02:15] <chaospsychex> lordcirth, what's the syntax? apt-get -search or apt-get search doesn't do it
[02:15] <chaospsychex> let me download synaptic
[02:15] <lordcirth> yeah, that's probably simplest
[02:16] <Eli-5dce> synaptic
[02:18] <chaospsychex> it's not there
[02:18] <chaospsychex> backports?
[02:18] <mnathani> from my dmesg: [1727917.176656] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
[02:18] <mnathani> how do i mound that disk
[02:18] <mnathani> or even view partitions
[02:19] <lordcirth> chaospsychex, there might be.  I'd seriously consider just upgrading, though. 12.04 isn't supported for much longer
[02:19] <chaospsychex> what's undf format ?
[02:19] <pantato> lordcirth: what is the parameter ineed in the mount command to have rw?
[02:19] <hackzor> hi
[02:19] <lordcirth> pantato, -o rw
[02:19] <princess> hi
[02:20] <hackzor> hi lilly
[02:20] <princess> hi arista
[02:20] <josetito[m]> Hi
[02:20] <hackzor> Who else is on this
[02:20] <hackzor> hi josetito
[02:20] <princess> hey guys
[02:20] <lordcirth> mnathani, lsblk -f to see partitions, use 'mount /dev/sdb# /mnt/' to mount it
[02:20] <princess> wut
[02:21] <hackzor> lordcirth???
[02:21] <lordcirth> hackzor, what?
[02:22] <Bashing-om> mnathani: Know the partition on sdb ' sudo fdisk -lu ' . and mount: ' sudo mkdir /mnt/sdb sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1 ' where 'sdb1' is the partition - from fdisk - that you want to mount .
[02:22] <mnathani> lordcirth: only showing sda partitions
[02:22] <mnathani> whats that paste from command line
[02:23] <pantato> lordcirth: sudo mount -o rw /dev/sdb1 /media/lubuntu/lubuntuinstall
[02:23] <pantato> lordcirth: something like that?
[02:23] <mnathani> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23287204/
[02:23] <lordcirth> pantato, sure, if sdb1 is the correct partition.
[02:24] <hackzor> Are you guys playing a game or something??
[02:24] <Bashing-om> mnathani: Correction ' sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb ' .
[02:24] <pantato> lordcirth: still can't edit the file i need to
[02:24] <lordcirth> pantato, what stops you?
[02:24] <mnathani> fdisk doesnt show sdb
[02:24] <mnathani> at all
[02:25] <hackzor> lordchirth can someobe tell me whats going on
[02:25] <hackzor> someone*
[02:25] <Bashing-om> mnathani: Then that suggest there is no file system on the device . Does bios see the device ?
[02:25] <pantato> lordcirth: well i tried opening it with vi and it doesn't even let me go into insert mode then i tried with leafpad and it makes me overwrite the file then gives me the error "can't open file to write"
[02:26] <lordcirth> pantato, did you run vi as root?
[02:27] <pantato> lordcirth: yes
[02:28] <lordcirth> pantato, that is strange
[02:28] <lordcirth> pantato, can you mv /etc/modules?
[02:29] <n-iCe> Hello, anyone using a ssd with linux?
[02:30] <pantato> lordcirth: sec
[02:30] <lordcirth> n-iCe, yes, why?
[02:30] <pantato> lordcirth: looks like i did make the changes to the file but my lubuntu is still not booting
[02:31] <lordcirth> pantato, did you break any other files, maybe?
[02:31] <n-iCe> lordcirth: awesome! what distro
[02:31] <lordcirth> n-iCe, many.  Kubuntu 16.04 at the moment.  Did you have a question about it?
[02:32] <pantato> lordcirth: that was the only file i messed with manually
[02:32] <n-iCe> lordcirth: sure, just ssd or a sata drive too?
[02:32] <pantato> i cant get into fking recovery mode
[02:32] <lordcirth> n-iCe, are you asking survey questions?
[02:33] <n-iCe> lordcirth: is it difficult to answer?
[02:33] <pantato> guess ill reinstall. ugh
[02:33] <n-iCe> I just bought a new laptop with a ssd and a hd, wanna know the best configurations for a linux disto in the ssd
[02:33] <lordcirth> n-iCe, no.  This is the Ubuntu support channel, surveys are off-topic
[02:33] <lordcirth> n-iCe, see, that's a real support question
[02:33] <lordcirth> n-iCe, how big is the SSD?
[02:33] <n-iCe> I keep reaing home boot root to ssd and hdd home
[02:34] <n-iCe> 230GB
[02:34] <n-iCe> reading*
[02:34] <lordcirth> Depends.  /home on the HDD works well.  Or, you could put / and /home on the SSD and have a seperate data dir, which I do.  That would be slightly more complex.
[02:35] <Bashing-om> n-iCe: I say again : sharing /boot is more complex and generally not a good idea, especially as Ubuntu defaults to using no separate boot partition. A separate /boot is something of an anachronism.
[02:35] <lordcirth> Bashing-om, I don't think he mentioned sharing /boot.
[02:35] <Jumboo> hi, sorry, what shoud I do to find a russan help?
[02:35] <lordcirth> But yes, a separate /boot is not normally needed
[02:36] <lordcirth> !russia | Jumboo
[02:36] <Jumboo> thXXXX
[02:37] <Bashing-om> lordcirth: Same as from yester eve . Just re-interating the respoose to the same question from then .
[02:37] <lordcirth> ah
[02:37] <n-iCe> Bashing-om, lordcirth http://paste.ubuntu.com/23287229/
[02:38] <pantato> lordcirth: about to reinstall unless you have any other suggestions
[02:38] <n-iCe> I reinstalled Bashing-om, but, I keep reading, I should use the hdd to var and swap and home
[02:38] <lordcirth> n-iCe, you dont want a separate /var
[02:39] <lordcirth> at most you want /, /home, and swap
[02:39] <n-iCe> I don't use swap.
[02:40] <orlock> n-iCe: If you have a rotating disk, you might want to give yourself 4G of swap on that - but you can always add it on the fly anyway
[02:41] <Bashing-om> nils_: with 12 Gigs of ram . swap will not be needed, agreed . As to my example of my system with a separate /var . I have good reason to do so . But that is a very unlikely need on your part .
[02:42] <pantato> lordcirth: my concern is that i know of no other way to adjust my mouse polling rate. This has worked before on 14.04 but it seemed to break my 16.04
[02:42] <lordcirth> pantato, I have never heard of someone needing to adjust that
[02:43] <Ba11istiX> hi
[02:43] <pantato> lordcirth: its important for professional level gaming :)
[02:44] <lordcirth> pantato, I'm a gamer too, but my mouse works fine as-is
[02:44] <PC-2011> Hello quick question. I have a ubuntu server installation on a virtual machine along with 2 centos7 and 2 windows server installs. Both of my other installations of linux had no problems. But my ubuntu server install has what I belive to be a DNS error.
[02:44] <tx> Hey guys, has anyone had any luck installing on a BayTrail device? (32-bit UEFI)
[02:44] <pantato> lordcirth: http://www.urbanterror.info/forums/topic/21844-howto-changing-mouse-polling-rate-on-ubuntu/ this is the guide i used that worked on 14.04
[02:44] <PC-2011> I tried to used googles DNS same problem
[02:45] <PC-2011> temporary failure resolving us.achive.ubuntu.com
[02:48] <C06> Hi all I am facing Ubuntu nividia error 0000:0a:00.0 118010a2...
[02:48] <C06> After then it's getting into emergency mode. Any suggestions to solve this error..
[02:49] <lordcirth> pantato, have you used evhz to make sure your mouse isn't already being polled fast?
[02:51] <Bashing-om> tx: What releae ? There is a hack for 14.10 that should apply to 14.04 : https://sturmflut.github.io/linux/ubuntu/2015/02/04/installing-ubuntu-on-baytrail-tablets-version-2/ .
[02:51] <pantato> lordcirth: my mouse polls at 125 hz by default on ubuntu. I need it polling at 500
[02:52] <pantato> crucial for counter-strike
[02:52] <Bashing-om> C06: Any hints in X's log file : /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[02:55] <PC-2011> Thoughts on why trying to apt-get and other commands would not be able to connect even when using openDNS or googles DNS
[02:55] <C06> Bashing-om error connecting to system bus : org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.filenotfound
[02:56] <pantato> Whoa!! This is a hardware level failure. I just reinstalled and Im stuck at the exact samw screen! Fuck!!!
[02:56] <tx> Bashing-om: tried that
[02:56] <tx> it can't seem to mount the CD during install
[02:56] <tx> (CD in this case is USB)
[02:56] <Bashing-om> coy: Ouch ! Busted system ? what results ' ls -al /var/log/ ' ?
[02:57] <Bashing-om> tcSorry then. will take others who have the greater experience than I .
[02:57] <Eli-5dce> hey tx? can your usb drive not mount?
[02:57] <pantato> hopefully its just a bad sata cable
[02:58] <C06> Bashing-om u there facing dbus error
[02:59] <n-iCe> Well
[03:00] <n-iCe> I will not worry about the ssd life time.
[03:00] <orlock> n-iCe: add noatime as a mount option
[03:00] <n-iCe> Keep reading, and some people say it will last like a decade using 10GB every day before it get full.
[03:00] <n-iCe> oh daaammiiiiiiiiiiit
[03:00] <orlock> n-iCe: increases performance, extends lifespan
[03:00] <n-iCe> orlock: ubuntu does it since 16.04
[03:00] <n-iCe> does not it?
[03:00] <orlock> I dont know
[03:01] <n-iCe> how to check
[03:01] <n-iCe> :D
[03:01] <n-iCe> fstab, right?
[03:02] <Bashing-om> C06: At this point, I would boot up a liveDVD and run a file system check . That directory should exist and be accessable !
[03:03] <C06> Bashing-om it is related to nividia error??
[03:05] <Bashing-om> C06: No telling what all it might be related to , If that directory is not accessable, what else ??
[03:07] <Bashing-om> C06: " sysop@1404mini:~$ ls -ld /var/log/ >> drwxrwxr-x 9 root syslog 4096 Oct  6 12:35 /var/log/ " If yours is not similar, there is a problem .
[03:23] <SynfulAck> Is there a quick way to getting .wmv files working in vlc player? seems to be some sort of drm issue when converting with ffmpeg or vlc
[03:26] <Ben64> SynfulAck: try playing with mplayer2
[03:27] <Eli-5dce> SynfulAck : not that I know of, havent really done things with .wmv but heres how you can do it i think. IF you want to do it with VLC
[03:27] <Eli-5dce> Launch VLC Player and select the “Streaming/Exporting Wizard…” from its File menu. Click the “Choose…” button and select your .wmv  file. Tick “Transcode video” and select the “H.264” codec and 1024  kb/s. Tick “Transcode audio” and select the “MPEG 4 Audio” codec and 192  kb/s.
[03:28] <SynfulAck> I think i tried that and the instructions dont follow with the UI, unless i missed sumin.
[03:29] <Eli-5dce> SynfulAck : umm
[03:29] <Eli-5dce> SynfulAck : have you tried gnome media player. If VLC doesn't let you give it a try
[03:29] <Eli-5dce> SynfulAck : i'm trying my best to gather more information to help you
[03:30] <SynfulAck> Eli-5dce, dont c that software installed, dont even see it in the software
[03:30] <Ben64> SynfulAck: try playing with mplayer2
[03:31] <Eli-5dce> SynfulAck: that works. Or you also can try dragonplayer it might work too
[03:31] <SynfulAck> I was going to try mplayer2, just lookn if they have an .rpm
[03:32] <Eli-5dce> SynfulAck : what os are you using?
[03:32] <Ben64> SynfulAck: you shouldn't be looking for an rpm
[03:32] <SynfulAck> i want it on an rpm machine
[03:33] <Eli-5dce> SynfulAck : because if you have a os that runs off of rpm and not deb. you need to have dragon player
[03:33] <Ben64> SynfulAck: then you're in the wrong channel, this is for Ubuntu support only
[03:34] <SynfulAck> yeah but rpm guys are preteens
[03:34] <pantato> Ok, so I'm able to adjust my mouse's polling rate with the commands sudo modprobe -r usbhid && sudo modprobe usbhid mousepoll=2 , then unplugging my mouse and plugging it back it. However, if I make the necessary edits to /etc/modules, then reboot, the polling rate does not adjust upon boot. I have to run those commands every time to change my polling rate. This worked in 14.04 before and I'm using 16.04 now.
[03:34] <pantato> Is there anything different about module adjustments in 16.04?
[03:35] <Eli-5dce> SynfulAck: if you are using a rpm machine use dragonplayer. If you are using a deb use gnomeplayer or mplayer2
[03:37] <Eli-5dce> SynfulAck: are you using Fedora or OpenSuse or what? if you use suse than it comes with dragon player. Fedora it is easy to manually install
[03:38] <SynfulAck> Fedora like a boss.
[03:38] <Eli-5dce> SynfulAck: but if you want to make it easier just use ubuntu. it has a easy to use software center. full apt-get support and easy custom prefs.
[03:38] <Eli-5dce> If you like Fedora. Dual Boot it
[03:40] <dr4c4n> hi there, I have a problem booting the new ubuntu beta 2 (16.10) on my laptop, I get it installed, but after rebooting I get to the login, enter my password and the system just freezes, I can still see my mouse cursor and the grey background. I have been told to come here, and ask how to collect more information for filing a bug report for it, as I would like to contribute what's happening on my system.
[03:40] <Eli-5dce> I have OSX 10.9, Ubuntu 14.04, Fedora 25, OpenSuse Leap and Android. All of my stuff on  one hdd.
[03:40] <dr4c4n> I'm coming back here from #ubuntu+1
[03:41] <Eli-5dce> dr4c4n: suggestion is, are you using gnome?
[03:41] <dr4c4n> Eli-5dce: yes
[03:42] <Eli-5dce> dr4c4n: what are the specs of the pc?
[03:42] <Eli-5dce> just make it brief
[03:42] <dr4c4n> it's an asus zenbook pro ux501vw, nvidia 960
[03:43] <Eli-5dce> ok so it is a pc with a 960m. so 8gb ram. So it is supported. Have you ever tried 14.04?
[03:43] <dr4c4n> I'll be honest, I've tried 14.04, 15.10, 16.04 and now this beta version, both with and without proprietary nvidia drivers
[03:44] <Eli-5dce> dr4c4n: why would you need drivers?
[03:44] <Eli-5dce> it might be a problem with the nvidia driver
[03:45] <Eli-5dce> i have a 1080ti in my desktop and it had a unstable driver and froze my computer
[03:45] <dr4c4n> Eli-5dce: trying the installation where the checkmark asks you if you want to install additional software, but I've also tried the installation, without the additional software
[03:45] <Eli-5dce> dr4c4n: ok got it
[03:45] <dr4c4n> what I don't understand is the computer boots the installer fine, but when rebooting: freezes
[03:46] <dr4c4n> just after login
[03:46] <Eli-5dce> have you ever tried lxde?
[03:46] <dr4c4n> with 16.04 and the nvidia driver, I got a black screen
[03:46] <dr4c4n> I did try xfce, but not lxde
[03:46] <dr4c4n> and its' 16 gb of ram
[03:46] <Eli-5dce> ok
[03:47] <dr4c4n> I tried to follow a blog exactly
[03:47] <jasom> where does one get the i686-linux-gnu-gcc-5 that I see in build logs for Xenial on launchpad?
[03:47] <dr4c4n> https://marclewis.com/2016/04/25/installing-ubuntu-16-04-lts-on-asus-zenbook-ux501vw/ <-- this blog, but after installing the older kernel, I got the black screen on login also
[03:47] <Eli-5dce> 1. tip. never use a driver or ubuntu.  2nd. try lxde go to : www.lubuntu.net
[03:47] <Eli-5dce> on ubuntu*
[03:48] <dr4c4n> also 16.04 makes my fan go constantly on high speed.
[03:48] <Eli-5dce> i have one of the oldest gaming pcs in history and it has no driver and it works totally fine.
[03:48] <dr4c4n> 14.04 didn't have touchpad support
[03:49] <Eli-5dce> 14.04 doesn't have touchpad support?
[03:49] <dr4c4n> not for my laptop model, I can only use the touch screen to move the mouse around.
[03:49] <dr4c4n> at least the fan's weren't running on high all the time
[03:49] <Eli-5dce> wtf.
[03:50] <dr4c4n> with 16.04, fans on high, but touchpad works
[03:50] <dr4c4n> also tried disk encryption, and that hung right after asking for the disk encryption passphrase after it said cryptsetup successfully set up
[03:51] <dr4c4n> I've been 2 weeks trying to get this new laptop running smoothly, with no luck
[03:51] <dr4c4n> I'm hoping 16.10 final stable release might help
[03:52] <dr4c4n> oh, and of course I've also tested the installation media, and verified the checksums
[03:52] <Eli-5dce> ok 14.04. install lubuntu. See if you can get a touchpad support. Idk why one doesn't use a usb mouse. so 1. get a usb mouse  2. run 14.04 with no encryption and find a way to install something for all purpose touchpad support i might have found something
[03:53] <Eli-5dce> and try "pointing devices" it should let you set up your touchpad
[03:54] <Eli-5dce> i will brb
[04:02] <NoCode> Hi, how can I change plymouth themes? Is there a plymouth theme manager in Xenial?
[04:06] <Bashing-om> NoCode: Have you seen : https://launchpad.net/plymouth-manager - http://ubuntuguide.net/plymouth-manager-gui-tool-to-change-initial-splash-screen-themes-in-ubuntu : Version 3.7-1 uploaded on 2015-09-15 .
[04:07] <Bashing-om> !info plymouth-manager
[04:08] <NoCode> Bashing-om, I was just looking at plymouth-manager, but I'm just unsure if it'd work as it's old. But guess I'll try. :)
[04:10] <Bashing-om> NoCode: I have been researching that lately - there are manual means . But the documentation I am finding is scarace .
[04:11] <Bashing-om> NoCode: Maybe: have a read : https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2321997 post #5 .
[04:12] <Conna> halo
[04:14] <NoCode> Bashing-om, Is(or was) your plymouth theme messed up? I dunno if that's the standard or what, but it boggles out without a logo, just a messy screen, flashes to another screen then brings me to log in. Kinda weird. Going to see if I can fix it.
[04:15] <pikachu> DCC CHAT
[04:15] <NoCode> Bashing-om, plymouth-manager does not work. :P
[04:18] <Bashing-om> NoCode: Not surprised . a lot has changed since uploaded on 2015-09-15 . File a bug report with the author ?
[04:19] <NoCode> Surprised there's no fork at this point.
[04:20] <Bashing-om> NoCode: Mind ya I have been struggeling with this with another user . Is this directory populated ' ls -al /usr/share/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo ' ?
[04:22] <NoCode> Bashing-om, Yes, files seem to appear
[04:22] <viktor133> hi all. my lenses aren't working. files&folders and video only given files that are already opened. music and photos says there's nothing available. any help? thanks.
[04:23] <Bashing-om> NoCode: Well was a thought . I have yet to get this fingered out . Have you tried changing the theme and see what results ?
[04:27] <NoCode> Bashing-om, Not sure if a theme was installed or not but it's definitely *not* default colours. I'm not really worried it too much right now. It's working. I can log in.
[04:27] <Bashing-om> NoCode: As said I am not finding much documentation for plymouth as appled to ubuntu's systems :(
[04:29] <NoCode> Bashing-om, I've also re-enabled those GPU drivers from that PPA. Risked it all, and 367 works. nvidia-settings is also working. Dare I try 370? :D
[04:29] <NoCode> I'm unsure
[04:29] <NoCode> I'll probably just wait
[04:29] <Bashing-om> NoCode: s/systems/systemd . All direction here is welcome !
[04:30] <NoCode> :D
[04:31] <acsn> hi guys
[04:31] <Bashing-om> NoCode: Well, the system chose 370 on that former install .. but nVidia recommends the 367 version driver . Yoy have got skilled in changing the drivers . will not hurt to try and see what results .
[04:32] <NoCode> Bashing-om, Install Antergos 3 times, Debian 3 times, struggle to get Ubuntu installed twice. Format, and dd the 16.04 image onto a USB, hope it'll work. It did! Success in the most weirdest of ways.
[04:32] <NoCode> I hope you're laughing right now. :D
[04:34] <Bashing-om> NoCode: Not a laughing matter to struggle so hard . ( md5sum the ,iso . "check disk for defects" in the USB ) boot up should work !
[04:35] <NoCode> Oh, the format and dd of the USB drive was while I was *in* the live environment of Antergos.
[04:35] <NoCode> :D
[04:38] <NoCode> When an installation medium(CDR) has a scratched out name, and says garbage, I guess I should really throw it out. :D
[04:38] <NoCode> That messed me up
[04:38] <EriC^> those are usually porn
[04:39] <NoCode> was a 16.04 image on CDR. :P
[04:39] <EriC^> :D
[04:39] <Emcgre> hi
[04:39] <Bashing-om> NoCode: CD ?? Be aware I am not aware that any ubuntu desktop will fit on a CD any more . Burn to a DVD ?
[04:40] <giovoni> hello world
[04:40] <giovoni> i have a question
[04:40] <NoCode> Oh crap, yeah it was DVD. Just looked.
[04:40] <Bashing-om> giovoni: ask .
[04:40] <giovoni> is there any linux alternative to adobe after effects?
[04:40] <giovoni> don't need it for video editting
[04:40] <NoCode> giovoni, That is a good question. Let me know when you find out.
[04:40] <Emcgre> Guys i need help with my mate setup , i cant install any program
[04:40] <giovoni> i need a program that will allow me to create music visualizers like after effects does
[04:41] <NoCode> !info lives
[04:41] <EriC^> !alternatives
[04:41] <NoCode> Not sure if that is anything like an alternate but came by that a day or 2 ago.
[04:42] <NoCode> Guess I'll youtube "lives video editing" and see now.
[04:42] <Bashing-om> Emcgre: Show us in a pastebin site ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ' . See if we see the hangup .
[04:42] <giovoni> me too
[04:43] <giovoni> lives seem like a legacy software
[04:43] <giovoni> actually it just looks like a normal video editor
[04:45] <Emcgre> Sorry my programing skills aren't so advanced, So i need to run the terminal and get to the directory of the tar.gz file and put the sudo command?
[04:46] <NoCode> giovoni, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXSlCQDNqOI
[04:47] <Bashing-om> Emcgre: K. Not to know is not a sin . We can help that . At the desktop key combo ctl+alt+t to gain a command line interface . in this termomnal input - one at a time ' sudo apt update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999"
[04:47] <viktor133> hi all. my lenses aren't working. files&folders and video only given files that are already opened. music and photos says there's nothing available. any help? thanks.
[04:47] <Bashing-om> "sudo apt upgrade 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999"
[04:48] <NoCode> May be *normal* I think Adobe has quite the niche market with product design if you're about editing software like after effects. But I dunno. I'm a video editor. I bet there is software out there, but possibly not.
[04:48] <NoCode> I wouldn't expect that Linux(or Ubuntu) was awesome for music editing and recording but it is *really* awesome.
[04:48] <Bashing-om> Emcgre: The results of these are URLs back in terminal. Pass these full links back here and we access these files that were generated .
[04:48] <NoCode> I reckon better than Windows.
[04:49] <naga93> hi
[04:49] <naga93> I need help
[04:49] <naga93> about openWRT
[04:49] <giovoni> just saw the vid you linked NoCode
[04:49] <giovoni> have you used live before?
[04:49] <NoCode> Nope
[04:49] <naga93> anybody can help me
[04:50] <OerHeks> naga93, ask, wait and see
[04:50] <OerHeks> not sure how openwrt is related to ubuntu ..
[04:50] <giovoni> thanks anyways
[04:51] <giovoni> l8r
[04:51] <naga93> no, about ubntu
[04:51] <naga93> not about ubuntu
[04:51] <naga93> but wireles
[04:51] <OerHeks> not about ubuntu, but wireless? lets hear it
[04:52] <naga93> I was remote wirelles ztef660
[04:52] <naga93> and I got user & password telnet
[04:52] <naga93> but I can't find admin password for this router wirelles
[04:53] <giovoni> NoCode?
[04:53] <giovoni> hey
[04:53] <giovoni> think i found a program
[04:54] <giovoni> seems like blender can do them
[04:54] <naga93> #cat /userconfig/cfg/db_user_cfg.xml
[04:54] <giovoni> coming across some decent tutorials on youtube
[04:54] <Emcgre> thanks
[04:54] <naga93> I was tried it
[04:54] <giovoni> i want to create something like this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpViZkhpPHk
[04:55] <JohnnyL> how does one get dvds to play under ubuntu?
[04:55] <OerHeks> !dvd
[04:55] <JohnnyL> shit no wonder.
[04:55] <OerHeks> JohnnyL, on 16.04, install libdvd-pkg
[04:56] <OerHeks> naga93, i think you want the open wrt channel, how would we know admin/pass?
[04:56] <Chrisssy> Hi! Quick noob question: When installing different applications, should I make a user for each service running, or should I just have 1 not-root user and run all services through that?
[04:56] <Chrisssy> And if it's personal preference, is either one more resource efficient?
[04:57] <CodedPsychosis> Sup guys
[04:57] <OerHeks> Chrisssy, basicly, running a service as root user is questionable.
[04:58] <orlock> Eh
[04:58] <Chrisssy> Right. My question is more, should I make a user for each service I run, or should I just have one non root user and run all the processes as that?
[04:58] <orlock> Services generally dont run as any "user" account as such
[04:58] <orlock> Chrisssy: what do you mean by service?
[04:58] <Chrisssy> OpenVPN, database, etc
[04:58] <orlock> Chrisssy: Under linux, what would be called a windows "service" is a daemon
[04:59] <Chrisssy> Sorry if I'm misusing terms, still a little bit of a noob
[04:59] <orlock> and usually the init scripts will take care of that for you
[04:59] <Chrisssy> Ohh my bad, thanks :)
[04:59] <orlock> So they will run as the appropriate user
[04:59] <orlock> There wont be any "user" logged in when they start
[04:59] <orlock> Generally they start as root, which is required to listen on privledged ports
[04:59] <Chrisssy> Ok! Gotcha
[04:59] <orlock> and then drop those to what's required
[05:00] <Chrisssy> Makes sense :) Thank you!
[05:00] <JohnnyL> is there a way to make up a backup of a dvd onto a hard drive?
[05:00]  * merkurus says hi
[05:00] <NoCode> ah yeah, good ole blender for video editing. Man, some of the stuff actually looks amazing.
[05:01] <OerHeks> JohnnyL, sure, make an iso out of it?
[05:01] <JohnnyL> OerHeks: okay. how? I can play a dvd now.
[05:02] <OerHeks> easy to find, https://askubuntu.com/questions/307688/how-to-create-iso-image-from-dvd/307698
[05:02] <JohnnyL> great, hopefully that works.
[05:02] <JohnnyL> thanks.
[05:03] <OerHeks> JohnnyL, to see if the command is right, check with:  eject /dev/sr0   # and dvdtray should open
[05:04] <OerHeks> then sudo cat /dev/sr0 > /home/$USER/gimmemydvdnow.iso
[05:05] <JohnnyL> yeah. looks good. i am using that as per the page.
[05:05] <OerHeks> oh, to close the tray> eject -t /dev/sr0
[05:06] <JohnnyL> thanks OerHeks.
[05:07] <OerHeks> while :; do eject && eject -t; sleep 3; done
[05:08] <Bashing-om> Emcgre: Are you having a hard time of it ?
[05:12] <JohnnyL> OerHeks: no need to bash me over the head.
[05:12] <JohnnyL> :)
[05:13] <EriC^> i see what you did there
[05:13] <EriC^> :D
[05:14] <JohnnyL> EriC^: ;p~~
[05:14]  * OerHeks waggles to the corner and sits down
[05:14] <alkisg> Hi, I'm trying "auth required pam_exec.so expose_authtok /home/alkisg/bin/pam-exec-test" in /etc/pam.d/common-auth, but the password doesn't appear in stdin inside the script... does expose_authtok work in Ubuntu 16.04?
[05:14] <Magkneetoe> Hi
[05:21] <Bashing-om> Emcgre: Have I lost you ??
[05:22] <JohnnyL> so cat /dev/sr0 > image.iso leds to an tiny screen that can't get past the menu.
[05:24] <alkisg> JohnnyL, what tiny screen? maybe upload a screenshot?
[05:29] <viktor133> hi all. my lenses aren't working. files&folders and video only given files that are already opened. music and photos says there's nothing available. any help? thanks.
[05:30] <dugui> Spanish?
[05:31] <Bashing-om> !es | dugui
[05:32] <dugui> ok gracias por la información, voy a dirigirme a ese canal entonces, soy nuevo en esto
[05:33] <JohnnyL> alkisg: it takes up 1/5th the screen. and the menu is the only applicable thing. i'm trying dd atm.
[05:33] <alkisg> JohnnyL, running cat on the terminal shouldn't be able to create windows with menus etc... upload a screenshot
[05:33] <alkisg> (or dd)
[05:34] <JohnnyL> bye
[05:34] <elias_a> alkisg: καλημέρα :)
[05:34] <alkisg> hyvää huomenta elias_a :)
[05:35] <elias_a> (Sorry for this babblish OT. This is an old habit between alkisg and me.)
[05:36] <NoCode> Quick question. Does Ubuntu ISOs enable the cp function like Debian ISOs? Debian images are made with isohybrid technology which enable you to just copy the image to the device and it works the same way as dd. IMHO, best way to go. Can't always remember the dd command to copy the image.
[05:41] <t2mkn> hello
[05:45] <zazu> it won't parse right
[05:45] <zazu> oops, wrong window
[05:54] <viktor133> hi all. my lenses aren't working. files&folders and video only given files that are already opened. music and photos says there's nothing available. any help? thanks.
[05:55] <OerHeks> viktor133, you might want to set out this Q on askubuntu too, much more readers
[05:56] <orlock> viktor133: I'm not sure what you mean, the only lenses i know of are optical
[05:56]  * orlock googles
[05:56] <viktor133> OerHeks: i did. but i got an answer from actionparsnip which didn't get me anywhere. and once it's read it doesn't seem to draw much interest anymore
[05:56] <viktor133> orlock: the scopes, the things that appear in unity when you press the logo button
[06:20] <dumpchama> hi, I am using ubuntu mate 16.04. when i play any audio through earphones there is always a pop sound before the audio sounds and it is very annoying...
[06:20] <dumpchama> is there a known fix for that?
[06:20] <dumpchama> doesn't happen through speakers or on Windows btw
[06:26] <gk12> Hi
[06:27] <drdv> When is the 14.04 end of supp ? Cant google rn
[06:27] <EriC^^> 2019
[06:27] <gk12> How to unset grub env variable runtime. for exampel I have entry "Ubuntu Linux" and there grubenv is set like some_cpu_param=9 so I wanted to unset this ?
[06:27] <anton02> for some reason zfs doesn't work on my computer
[06:27] <drdv> ty
[06:27] <proxx_> gk12 change defaults and update grub
[06:27] <EriC^^> drdv: np
[06:28] <proxx_> gk12 http://askubuntu.com/questions/148095/how-do-i-set-the-grub-timeout-and-the-grub-default-boot-entry
[06:28] <anton02> for some reason zfs doesn't work on my computer
[06:29] <drdv> Anybody have any issue with arch linux-pacman -S sometimes failing part way in a large install at latest version ? I have a stable network
[06:29] <drdv> Wired dhcp
[06:29] <gk12> proxx_: let me check
[06:29] <drdv> Wrong channel but i had no registration on #archlinux-unregistered
[06:30] <drdv> Anton02 does ntfs windows work fine on your pc ?
[06:31] <drdv> I knew zfs and ntfs had some common ground at the basic memory poimters
[06:32] <gk12> proxx_: Thanks but that required changes in grub.conf, Can it be done something like unset param=value ?
[06:33] <tbnbuddha> hi. what could be the reason that there is no "memtest86+" entry on grub menu? neither on my installation then on a ubuntu or lubuntu usb stick?
[06:33] <alkisg> tbnbuddha: do you have the memtest86+ package installed in your pc?
[06:34] <proxx_> gk12 , no you change the 'defaults' file and then update with grub update to spit out a new grub.conf
[06:34] <tbnbuddha> can check that out but i thought this shiould be a default option
[06:34] <proxx_> gk12 manual changes will not persist post update n stuff
[06:34] <alkisg> tbnbuddha: in my ubuntu, it is.
[06:37] <tbnbuddha> the package memtest is installed. i saw also the memtest entry in my "/etc/grub.d"" directory
[06:38] <alkisg> $ dpkg-query -W memtest86+
[06:38] <alkisg> memtest86+	5.01-3ubuntu2
[06:38] <alkisg> tbnbuddha: it's memtest86+, not memtest
[06:38] <alkisg> tbnbuddha: what's the output of this? grep memtest /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[06:38] <alkisg> Also, are you using UEFI?
[06:38] <gk12> proxx_: ok
[06:38] <gk12> let me check
[06:38] <gk12> Thanks
[06:39] <tbnbuddha> shows the version. 5.01-3ubuntu2
[06:39] <tbnbuddha> ah i try that line one moment
[06:39] <tbnbuddha> grep memtest /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[06:39] <tbnbuddha> oops sorry
[06:41] <tbnbuddha> i tried it on uefi and on legacy mode. both no memtest entry. the output of that grub.cfg shows two entrys concerning memtest86+
[06:43] <alkisg> tbnbuddha: then you're not using that grub.cfg, you're booting from somewhere else
[06:43] <OerHeks> uefi and memtest, known issue http://askubuntu.com/questions/681167/how-to-run-memtest-under-14-04-with-uefi
[06:45] <kille> hey guys
[06:45] <kille> 'anyone on rught now?
[06:45] <alkisg> 1563 persons
[06:45] <proxx_> just ask
[06:45] <kille> wow. that's a metric ton. how do you check that??
[06:46] <kille> list does not help....
[06:46] <proxx_> ssst
[06:46] <everson> Hi, in 16.04 Desktop, best way to customise number and orientation of Workspaces? I'd like 5 horizontal, 1 vertical. Also is it possible to move launcher to bottom (as opposed to left)?
[06:46] <kille> i use compiz...
[06:46] <kille> makes it much easier.
[06:46] <Aporie> Is there were an mysql-server update recently ? Because I have a pending update on my 16.04 LTS server to mysql 5.7
[06:46] <everson> compiz config manager?
[06:46] <kille> yep
[06:47] <everson> thanks
[06:47] <kille> also adds some bangs and whistles.
[06:47] <kille> like wobbly windows :)
[06:47] <kille> np
[06:47] <everson> haha don't need anything fancy, just some minimal tweaks here and there :)
[06:47] <kille> under general...
[06:47] <kille> desktop
[06:47] <everson> thanks
[06:47] <kille> np bro
[06:47] <kille> enjoy it!
[06:47] <tbnbuddha> i am really out of ideas why i cannot do that memtest86+ :(
[06:47] <tbnbuddha> not even a usb stick is working
[06:47] <everson> kille, my apt-get says it's called compizconfig-settings-manager - sound right?
[06:48] <kille> yes
[06:48] <kille> absolutely the right package.
[06:48] <everson> great
[06:48] <kille> you might also consider adding the extras
[06:48] <OerHeks> tbnbuddha, uefi and memtest, known issue  http://askubuntu.com/questions/681167/how-to-run-memtest-under-14-04-with-uefi
[06:48] <OerHeks> kille please easy on the enter,thanks
[06:48] <kille> but those are bells and whistles and you said you're not intersted so.
[06:49] <tbnbuddha> OerHeks i heard about that. for that reason i changed the settings to legacy. but it is still no memtest there
[06:49] <OerHeks> everson,  unity-tweak-tool is what you want, not ccsm
[06:49] <kille> apologies, i am used to doing that, will try and exercise some restraint. :D
[06:49] <OerHeks> tbnbuddha, no solution for memtest/uefi
[06:49] <alkisg> tbnbuddha: if your disk is uefi only, and you select legacy boot, how can it boot with legacy? It will either boot with uefi, or not at all.
[06:49] <everson> kille that was quick. workspaces sorted. cheers
[06:49] <OerHeks> additional download is worthless, as you need a desktop environment to work with.
[06:50] <kille> cheers everson!
[06:50] <tbnbuddha> what is the difference then? i can change in my bios between uefi and legacy
[06:50] <alkisg> tbnbuddha: if you have 2 disks, one uefi and another legacy, or if you have a special disk that supports both
[06:51] <fonz> hello
[06:52] <knightwise> hey fonz
[06:52] <tbnbuddha> but shouldn't there be a entry when i just boot from usb?
[06:52] <alkisg> tbnbuddha: how did you create your usb stick?
[06:53] <alkisg> Is it both uefi and legacy, or one of them, and which one?
[06:54] <tbnbuddha> i just have one disk installed. but i changed bios settings currently to legacy.
[06:54] <alkisg> tbnbuddha: aren't we talking about usb sticks now? why mention the disk again?
[06:54] <OerHeks> tbnbuddha, another try: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/memtest86+/+bug/883017
[06:54] <OerHeks> it is broken for uefi
[06:54] <tbnbuddha> but correct me if i say something wrong. i don't even know what legacy and uefi is.
[06:54] <alkisg> OerHeks: he wants to try with legacy
[06:55] <OerHeks> go try it, i don't mind.
[06:55] <alkisg> tbnbuddha: you're talking about a usb stick now, which can be legacy
[06:55] <tbnbuddha> mmh i read that thread you linked concerning uefi and memtest
[06:55] <alkisg> So no uefi involved, if you created it properly
[06:55] <tbnbuddha> does it depend on the bios settings or is it just a hardware question?
[06:56] <tbnbuddha> because in bios i switched forom uefi to legacy right now
[06:56] <alkisg> It depends on the firmware setting (uefi/bios), and on the disk format (gpt, mbr) and on the software (grub etc)
[06:56] <alkisg> So if you don't tell us how you created your stick, we can't answer
[06:57] <tbnbuddha> as i created the stick i was on uefi i think. should i recreate the stick now with legacy settings?
[06:57] <alkisg> Which tool did you use.
[06:57] <tbnbuddha> unetbootin
[06:58] <alkisg> Did you disable secure boot from your firmware?
[06:59] <tbnbuddha> didn't change something like that. need to check that before
[07:00] <OerHeks> official Ubuntu iso files work in both UEFI and BIOS mode, don't use unetbootin due to a bug.
[07:00] <freddyb> I'm on a lenovo x230 and my scrolling (trackpoint-mouse thingie up/down and pressing the middle mouse button) stopped working after I upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04.1. Any tips?
[07:00] <tbnbuddha> oh i have a legacy or uefi option also for usb. i will try that. anyways thx a lot for the help so far
[07:01] <OerHeks> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/05/etcher-usb-image-burner-tool-linux-open-source ( and windows + mac )
[07:02] <OerHeks> works on windows and mac, and can handle windows.iso and osx.iso
[07:03] <alkisg> OerHeks: does that produce sticks that are both uefi and bios capable?
[07:03] <OerHeks> Yes.
[07:03] <tbnbuddha> now i have a "Test memory" option. But if i try to execute it, it shows:"Cannot load a ramdisk with an old kernel image"
[07:04] <alkisg> OerHeks: cool; any reason to prefer it over dd?
[07:04] <alkisg> tbnbuddha: probably unetbootin creates an invalid grub.cfg for memtest
[07:04] <OerHeks> dd works fine too, don't forget to 'sync' after dd !!
[07:04] <tbnbuddha> what can i do about it?
[07:05] <alkisg> tbnbuddha: recreate the usb stick with one of the other methods, either "dd" or the tool that OerHeks said
[07:05] <freddyb> are there any known good tips for testing/debugging problems with regard to the lenovo thinkpad trackpoint? almost everything works (except scrolling)
[07:06] <tbnbuddha> oh i overlooked that. i got no internet connection on my laptop i am trying to repair. just on my smartphone in here
[07:09] <everson> Hi :) How do I move my taskbar from the left to the bottom?
[07:09] <everson> (16.04)
[07:10] <Tropicao> Join #embedded-tlse
[07:12] <OerHeks> everson, install unity-tweak-tool for that tweak
[07:15] <tbnbuddha> i cannot download that etcher :( It says i should visit from my pc instead of mobile. But i got no connection to the internet from my laptop i am trying to repair.
[07:15] <EriC^^> tbnbuddha: tether your internet connection
[07:16] <tbnbuddha> done that. it always interupts after about 20 seconds
[07:16] <alkisg> tbnbuddha: boot your laptop from your usb stick. Won't you have internet then?
[07:16] <tbnbuddha> always the same. cannot identify the error that caused it. just have some error messages in my logfile
[07:17] <tbnbuddha> alkisig, no. wifi is not detected
[07:17] <tbnbuddha> and there is no cable optiojn on my laptop
[07:18] <tbnbuddha> so i am in serious trouble :(
[07:19] <EriC^^> why isn't wifi detected
[07:19] <EriC^^> what are you trying to do anyways?
[07:20] <tbnbuddha> i try to install lubuntu
[07:20] <EriC^^> what stuff do you have?
[07:20] <everson> OerHeks, thanks :)
[07:20] <EriC^^> pc with no os at all and a mobile?
[07:20] <tbnbuddha> but ran into multiple problems. i guess i have also a hardware problem. but i could not even try to test my memory
[07:20] <tbnbuddha> i managed to install lubuntu on it. but there are dozens of errors
[07:21] <EriC^^> such as what
[07:21] <EriC^^> ?
[07:24] <freddyb> any tips on debugging lenovo trackpoints at all? scrolling didnt work after update
[07:27] <azizLIGHT> when aplpication crashes, how do i copy the details in the window in the gui? http://i.imgur.com/HdTk6vf.png
[07:30] <OerHeks> azizLIGHT, good question, the crash report is stored in:  /var/crash/  as a .crash file
[07:30] <azizLIGHT> thanks very much
[07:31] <azizLIGHT> doesnt seem like you can copy paste from that window for whatever reason
[07:31] <azizLIGHT> and yes i see the file there :)
[07:31] <freddyb> ah, I probably hit bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/1246683
[07:31] <OerHeks> azizLIGHT, i know, this bugreport should be reactivated https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1273752
[07:33] <everson> Is it possible to display preview of window titles for open windows at bottom (like with old interface)?
[07:33] <azizLIGHT> perhaps the dialog box should mention that the full crash report file is available in /var/crash/xyz_file
[07:33] <azizLIGHT> as a workaround
[07:33] <azizLIGHT> if no one wants to implement copy/paste
[07:35] <thor_> anyone using Rider? how do I get rid of this "[?1h=[6n[6n" in the conosle output? apparently they are not addressing the issue.
[07:38] <freddyb> I have multiple (likely leftover) files in xorg.conf.d/ and I don't know which come from ubuntu and which one I have created myself in the past. How would I find out? dpkg?
[07:39] <proxx_> creationdate ?
[07:39] <ducasse> freddyb: dpkg -S /path/to/filename
[07:40] <freddyb> ducasse: thanks!
[07:41] <freddyb> proxx_: there were multiple dates, so I wanted to make double sure :)
[07:41] <kille> question...why is duckduckgo the default search in tor browser?
[07:41] <proxx_> kille , because google does the opposite, collect as much as they can
[07:42] <proxx_> kille have you ever been on the internet ?
[07:42] <kille> of coure, but i've been insanely trusting... and then i realise i shouldn't be
[07:43] <proxx_> you will probably leak more about yourself through your browser than which source ip , but tor away
[07:44] <kille> isn't tor like a bittorrent client for the web? how will i leak more when using it?
[07:45] <kille> if i dont disclose anything, i should be ok or not?
[07:45] <OerHeks> If you believe TOR is safe, you are safe.
[07:46] <proxx_> this is too far offtopic but basically its you who gets tracked through behaviour , specific fingerprint, accounts etc
[07:46] <thor_> kille: you should use both search engines. Its not about what is right or wrong. Its just two very different engines. Duckduckgo also has the "bubble function" but thats limited to national filtering. Use google when you want results from "the bubble" you are in, and duckduckgo when you want it more unfiltered. To say that one is better than the other is just plain stupid.
[07:47] <proxx_> just live a normal online life and if there is shit your are concerned about use something else for that
[07:48] <proxx_> oh and google results are not what they used to be , who pays the most or what the most idiots search for instead of returning keywords, google is on its way out as a SE
[07:48] <freddyb> kille: the Tor project has great documentation, including why they choose a different search engine. their documents are a good read.
[07:50] <freddyb> kille: a browser discloses "things", not about you personally, but it makes you trackable, re-identifiable across the web. the Tor browser tries to defend against that.
[07:51] <proxx_> which is likely pebcak
[07:51] <freddyb> hmmm, the old thinkpad.conf file in xorg.conf.d/ wasn't breaking the middle-button scrolling on my thinkpad...what else, what else?
[07:51] <freddyb> proxx_: tracking? nah, I wholeheartedly disagree. but I guess discussing here is too off-topic?! :)
[07:52] <proxx_> yeah you r right , we will get modsmacked
[07:53] <kille> agree. just wanted to figure it out. maybe another channel some other time...
[07:54] <freddyb> there's a tor channel on freenode, I'm sure, kille
[07:54] <kille> anyway. cheers for now.
[07:55]  * cfhowlett adds "modsmacked" to his personal vocabulary
[07:55] <portdmi> http://www.renegadetribune.com/who-controls-hollywood/
[08:09] <freddyb> ah! it seems the issue is that the mouse is detected as ps/2 generic, not as a trackpoint.
[08:11] <OerHeks> freddyb, maybe you machine has a FN key for trackpoint/external mouse?
[08:12] <freddyb> OerHeks: I don't think so. I don't have an external mouse, fwiw
[08:13] <Fsociety0177> hello everybody
[08:13] <freddyb> I'm trying to get scrolling on my built-in thinkpad trackpoint
[08:13] <Fsociety0177> can someone help to initilize me as a hacker?
[08:14] <cfhowlett> Fsociety0177, no.  wrong channel.  look around on google or reddit for a more proper venue
[08:14] <Fsociety0177> cfhowlett: thanks, this channel was only one i could acess, i`m beginner here sorry
[08:17] <zerous> guys, I am having issues when trying to upgrade or install anything pastebin.com/PLyW5nSF
[08:17] <zerous> Any help is appreciated.
[08:18] <freddyb> did you try "apt-get -f install" as suggested, zerous?
[08:18] <OerHeks> zerous, don't crosspost, you have been answered.
[08:19] <zerous> OerHeks, sorry
[08:19] <OerHeks> zerous, you might as well keep the problem here :-)
[08:20] <OerHeks> always run update, then upgrade, i am missing update in your story.
[08:20] <OerHeks> update = fresh lists
[08:20] <leeyaa> hi
[08:20] <leeyaa> i have a basic custom .deb package that i need to create a user during packaging
[08:20] <leeyaa> how to do that ?
[08:21] <zerous> OerHeks, this is what I get pastebin.com/LPUqm0aG
[08:21] <OerHeks> opensuse, trisquel, ubuntu, ugly mix of repos.
[08:22] <zerous> oh
[08:22] <zerous> what should I do ?
[08:23] <jnissen> Hey people. I am considering switching to Ubuntu, but I think the Unity interface is annoying. What trouble will I face if I go with Ubuntu Gnome? Fewer supported applications? More bugs?
[08:23] <ikonia> jnissen: its the same core product, so no less applictions,
[08:24] <cfhowlett> jnissen, switching the desktop environment is supersimple.  you will not have the defualt unity plugins but you will have the same ubuntu programs and repositories avaiable.
[08:24] <zerous> OerHeks, but I don't seen any other repos in my sources.list
[08:24] <ikonia> jnissen: the user community is smaller, and the "custom" components, eg: the differences from unity will have a smaller development teams
[08:25] <OerHeks> zerous, i do not know what /how you added those repos, maybe they are in  /etc/apt/sources.list.d folder?? i would do a fresh install, no frankenstein-ubuntu
[08:26] <Stanley00> jnissen: what kind of annoying that you don't like about unity?
[08:26] <cfhowlett> zerous, what other repos do you expect to see?
[08:27] <zerous> OerHeks, I remember adding certain ppas
[08:27] <zerous> I am thinking about removing them and trying to update
[08:27] <OerHeks> cfhowlett, see pastebin.com/LPUqm0aG
[08:27] <cfhowlett> !!!
[08:28] <cfhowlett> franken-buntu
[08:28] <ikonia> zerous: what will that do ?
[08:28] <ikonia> zerous: the packages will still be there after you remove the repos
[08:30] <zerous> ikonia, I see. Is there any way to purge the packages along with the ppas ?
[08:30] <zerous> I am really sorry if I am asking super dumb questions.
[08:30] <zerous> I am new to linux
[08:31] <OerHeks> good lesson not to mix distros.
[08:31] <OerHeks> = reinstall
[08:32] <zerous> OerHeks, alright. reinstall it is then. :)
[08:32] <ikonia> zerous: there is, but I wouldn't trust the state your machine appears to be in
[08:32] <zerous> oh
[08:32] <OerHeks> ikonia +1
[08:32] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[08:32] <OerHeks> this might not work in your situation.
[08:33] <cfhowlett> zerous, no need to apologize
[08:33] <cfhowlett> you should be able to sudo apt-get purge <packagename>.  then sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list         and ## before each ppa to comment it into silence.  or you could delete them altogether.  afterwards, sudo apt update
[08:34] <jnissen> ikonia, cfhowlett: Alright, it sounds like it's not much of a risk sticking with Gnome then
[08:35] <cfhowlett> jnissen,happy2help!
[08:35] <GhostLyrics> So If I get this line over and over and my RAID software refuses to recognize the hardware, is this an issue of the kernel, the driver, something else? => Sep 30 14:52:09 xen05 kernel: [226828.840507] megaraid_sas 0000:02:00.0: Failed to alloc kernel SGL buffer for IOCTL
[08:36] <Ramyo> Hi can someone experience with ubuntu and windows help me out?
[08:36] <cfhowlett> !ask | Ramyo
[08:36] <Ramyo> i might have overwrited my windows partition with ubuntu  or bootloader while trying to create another USB ubuntu
[08:36] <jnissen> Stanley00: I think it looks ugly... nothing much else, but really, what does a UI do except look good and be easy to use?
[08:37] <ikonia> GhostLyrics: what 'raid software'
[08:37] <ikonia> GhostLyrics: that should be a hardware raid card
[08:37] <Ramyo> !ask
[08:37] <cfhowlett> Ramyo, sudo fdisk -l should list your partitions
[08:38] <GhostLyrics> ikonia: The vendor (avago/broadcom/lsi, whatever they currently are named) ships this thing called `storcli` - that is used to generate a summary of the devices (e.g. RAID healthy or not)
[08:38] <zerous> So I guess the rule of thumb is not mix repos of different distros
[08:38] <cfhowlett> zerous, indeed.  rarely works as planned and usually breaks things.
[08:39] <ikonia> GhostLyrics: the first thing I'd look at is from the "pre boot" environment what does the CARD bios (not motherboard bios) but CARD bios see in terms of disk
[08:39] <splashing> admin-c:	LL58-AP tech-c:	LL58-AP
[08:39] <splashing> what is LL58-AP???
[08:39] <ikonia> splashing: we need context
[08:40] <GhostLyrics> ikonia: btw, the issue only surfaces on our only 16.04 machine and takes about 4 days of runtime until it's like this. Before that 3.5 - 4 days it works as intended.
[08:40] <Ramyo> So basically I wanted to try ubuntu so I instealled it on a USB and ran try with out installing. I then wanted to use another usb to create a persistent one. I ran the installer and it went through and i chose the option to use another option (not the delete old OS and the second option) the third option. I then proceeded and did the partition and for the bootloader I did not change so I Think now it partitioned my harddrive and not the
[08:40] <Ramyo>  second USB that I wanted. SO now when i boot my computer, I can't use windows anymore.
[08:40] <craggies> One of the greatest peace activists for the truth and prosperity of Humankind who has sacrificed so much to fight the NWO and the corrupt system we endure in. Ken O'Keef, former American Marine unveils the shunned truth about Adolf Hitler and World War 2.
[08:40] <craggies> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlRLhIVBAIs
[08:40] <ikonia> GhostLyrics: 4 days ?? what are you talking about
[08:40] <Edwerd> t
[08:41] <ikonia> join #debian
[08:41] <ikonia> oops, sorry
[08:41] <zerous> cfhowlett, so what you do when you want a package that the distro doesn't provide. Build from source, I assume ?
[08:41] <GhostLyrics> ikonia: I wish I was kidding. The Kernel lines and the software no longer recognising the card only happens after about 4 days uptime.
[08:41] <splashing> ikonia, i use APNIC to check one address it contain admin-c:	LL58-AP tech-c:	LL58-AP
[08:41] <ikonia> GhostLyrics: what you are saying does not make sense
[08:41] <ikonia> splashing: chek one address ?
[08:41] <GhostLyrics> that I'm aware of :(
[08:42] <splashing> ip address
[08:42] <ikonia> splashing: you're not really giving us clear context of what you are doing and why
[08:42] <ikonia> splashing: so we can't help
[08:42] <Ramyo> can anyone help me :( im freaking out  i want to know if  i can still recover windows..
[08:42] <ikonia> GhostLyrics: what does the actual card bio show in terms of status
[08:42] <splashing> ok
[08:43] <GhostLyrics> ikonia: I'll go down into the server room to check. However, I'm not sure this is a hardware issue since we already had the vendor ship us a second card (that even had a different firmware on it) and we still have the same problem.
[08:44] <ikonia> GhostLyrics: I didn't say a hardware issue
[08:44] <everson> Hi. If I have a video rendering in workspace 1, and I switch to workspace 2, is the video in the (invisible) workspace 1 still consuming the GPU? Thanks
[08:44] <GhostLyrics> What do you want me to look for, then?
[08:45] <pprnode> You Jews can't destroy, genocide, abuse, torture, firebomb, holocaust the best of humanity and then cower under the defense of "RACISM." We're racist for identifying the Jewish tribe behind these crimes? THEN SO BE IT.
[08:45] <splashing> what does nic-hdl means???
[08:45] <ikonia> GhostLyrics: the status of the card, the status of the disks on the device, so we have a clear "factual" status of the reatus
[08:45] <Ramyo> !patience
[08:45] <ikonia> splashing: in what context
[08:45] <ikonia> splashing: what you're doing is this "what does bbop-tczz mean"
[08:45] <ikonia> splashing: people don't know what you're talking about without context
[08:45] <splashing> person:	Lan Li
[08:45] <splashing> nic-hdl:	LL58-AP
[08:45] <splashing> e-mail:	js-cu-ipmanage@chinaunicom.cn
[08:45] <splashing> address:	No. 65 Beijing West Road,Nanjing,China
[08:45] <splashing> phone:	+86257900060
[08:45] <splashing> fax-no:	+86252900280
[08:46] <Guest70729> jeez
[08:46] <Ramyo> Can someone help me troubleshoot a booting issue?
[08:47] <splashing> ikonia, see that???
[08:47] <cfhowlett> !kylin | splashing
[08:47] <OerHeks> !paste | splashing
[08:48] <splashing> thanks...
[08:48] <cfhowlett> splashing, the kylin team has a channel on QQ and you probably get faster answers there
[08:49] <crystalfree> THE TRUTH NEEDS NO ZOMBIES AND NO LAWS TO PROTECT IT. "The International Jew" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-TMecEi_yo
[08:49] <crystalfree> WE ARE ANONYMOUS. EXPECT US.
[08:49] <cfhowlett> !ops | crystalfree ban please
[08:50] <everson> In 16.04, is it possible to get the window title previews to show up in my taskbar like in the past?
[08:51] <jnissen> How can I change the application icons in Ubuntu Gnome? I've already changed the icons under "Theme" in Gnome Tweak tool. Folder icons etc. changes, but app icons do not.
[08:52] <Ramyo> So basically I wanted to try ubuntu so I instealled it on a USB and ran try with out installing. I then wanted to use another usb to create a persistent one. I ran the installer and it went through and i chose the option to use another option (not the delete old OS and the second option) the third option. I then proceeded and did the partition and for the bootloader I did not change so I Think now it partitioned my harddrive and not the
[08:52] <Ramyo>  second USB that I wanted. SO now when i boot my computer, I can't use windows anymore.
[08:52] <freddyb> (for the record, after an update, I was somehow missing the xserver-xorg-input-libinput package. scrolling works again)
[08:53] <cfhowlett> Ramyo, reinstall or restore windows.
[08:54] <Ramyo> since its probaby partitioned for linux now, is reinstalling or restoring my only option?
[08:55] <cfhowlett> sanest option, yes.
[08:57] <manbear1> any channels dedicated to hardware support? cannot talk in #hardware
[08:58] <OerHeks> manbear1, time to read the rest, register with #freenode?
[08:59] <z0mfg> So I've written some howto, what is the best place to publish it? Ubuntu Forums, Launchpad, make a wiki page?
[09:00] <OerHeks> z0mfg, ubuntu forums would do.
[09:00] <k1l_> z0mfg: i would talk to the docs team: #ubuntu-doc
[09:02] <z0mfg> okay, i'll ask them too, thx
[09:02] <z0mfg> oh, there is a "tutorials" section in the forums, maybe there
[09:04] <everson> In 16.04, is it possible to get the window title previews to show up in my taskbar like in the past? Trying to find info online but I'm not sure if I'm using the right search keywords. Thanks
[09:06] <everson> Alternatively is it possible to restore the "old" (classic) ubuntu look & feel?
[09:07] <trijntje> everson: settigns -> appearance -> behavior
[09:07] <GhostLyrics> ikonia: MegaRaid BIOS says all drives look fine (online)
[09:08] <trijntje> everson: if you mean the old gnome2 look, no. But you can always look at some of the other ubuntu flavors. Lubuntu has an older/window style look, with a bar at the bottom etc
[09:09] <everson> trijntje, ok thanks will check it out. Yeah the settings -> appearance -> behavior is great for getting title menus in the windows again, but I'm wanting the bottom taskbar to show the titles of the open windows as well. But I'll check out lubuntu. On a side note, I basically just want to be able to see which windows are open. Currently my Unity panel only shows one terminal icon, which I have to click to see what's open. I was hoping to show all open
[09:09] <everson> terminals' titles like before :)
[09:10] <everson> (Context: I have multiple terminals open and logged in to different hoses)
[09:10] <GhostLyrics> ikonia: battery status optimal, everything says ok
[09:10] <everson> s/hoses/hosts
[09:23] <faekjarz> Hey there! I'd like to enlarge my mouse pointer in 16.04 Gnome (like Mate lets me do it). I didn't find any options in settings or tweaktool. Any hints, anyone?
[09:25] <vak> hi all, memory-hungry applications like Chrome cause out-of-memory on my machine (8Gb RAM, 5GB swap). The machine becomes non-responsive and needs a hard-reboot. Could one keep machine responsive when running into out-of-memory? I'd be able to kill a memory-gridy app without losing my unsaved work...
[09:27] <zarpamagnolia> Jau! I'm looking for a program that ubuntu to manipulate and control (my stock, expenses, orders, invoices, customer lists and other providers) a little help ????
[09:27] <ppf> vak: the system does that already
[09:28] <ppf> if you run out of memory and swap, the OOM killer will kill applications
[09:30] <popey> vak: do you have any swap configured?
[09:33] <faekjarz> zarpamagnolia: maybe gnucash or homebank
[09:34] <tbnbuddha> anyone can recommand a source where i can find a up to date list of laptop's recommanded for ubuntu/lubuntu
[09:34] <tbnbuddha> ?
[09:35] <zarpamagnolia> faekjarz, thanks ! im going to look the options!
[09:35] <tumbler> dose anyone use realek 8192eu usb wireless adapter???
[09:35] <tumbler> first of all hi everybody XD
[09:35] <tumbler> *realtek
[09:36] <tumbler> i can t make to work own driver
[09:36] <EriC^^> tumbler: why not
[09:37] <tumbler> i insalled .deb ... it seems to compile correctly but ... the device still doesn t work
[09:37] <tumbler> *doesn t work yet
[09:38] <vak> ppf: Obviosly the system doesn't do anything good enough. Several times i tried to wait until the machine be responsive again. No luck. At least 15 min isn't enough
[09:38] <EriC^^> tumbler: try lspci -k | grep -A4 Net
[09:38] <EriC^^> tumbler: try lspci -knn | grep -A4 Net
[09:39] <vak> popey: yes, swap is configured and used. the hole freezing of the machine happens when not only RAM, but also swap gets full
[09:40] <tumbler> EriC^^, thanks i'll try those
[09:40] <EriC^^> tumbler: paste what you get here
[09:41] <EriC^^> tumbler: paste in paste.ubuntu.com
[09:41] <popey> vak: ouch, configure more swap, add more ram, or use leaner apps, basically.
[09:41] <popey> (or all 3)
[09:43] <vak> popey: I do like to know how to keep at least a console of the machine responsive, methods 1-3 are clear, but not really applicable in my case
[09:45] <zergut> hello, how can i customize Unity?
[09:46] <Sircle> My applications open / try to open wine brwoser, I do not want that. How to change settings that default one sets to firefox?
[09:52] <OerHeks> Sircle, likely you have 2 firefox launchers ?
[09:53] <OerHeks> zergut, install unity tweak
[09:53] <OerHeks> !info unity-tweak-tool
[09:59] <Sircle> OerHeks:  Dont thing so
[10:02] <ppf> vak: it will take a couple minutes more than that for oomk to kick in
[10:02] <ppf> 12G of memory should be enough for most things, though
[10:02] <ppf> what are you doing in your chrome?
[10:21] <Fedoration_> If I have a program already running under X on a machine that has become unresponsive, but I can still get SSH access to it, can I pull that GUI instance across via SSH tunnelling to save changes before closing it? Or does X over SSH tunnel only work for launching new instances of binaries?
[10:22] <Devnatu> Hi guys, I am new to this channel, i hope some one can help me. I have Laptop Lenovo Yoda 710 14inch with I7 processor 8GB Ram and windows 10. I have been trying to install ubuntu and different versions of it. Every thing goes smooth and then its stuck at blank screen or at grub>
[10:22] <Devnatu> can some one please help me
[10:23] <Devnatu> Also it works fine when i run in from USB as live
[10:26] <Devnatu> hi guys anybody can help?
[10:26] <OerHeks> Devnatu, maybe this forumposts are any help, see the part blacklist i2c_hid ? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2337161
[10:27] <OerHeks> or this post , disabling acpi https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2329448
[10:27] <OerHeks> * make sure hybernate/fastboot is disabled. this is for all UEFI machines.
[10:39] <tbnbuddha> when i pipe a command into "pastebinit" where do i get the full url from?
[10:41] <Devnatu> oerherk thanks for your response, ill look in to the blacklisting i am to new to ubuntu so no idea how to do it, will have to do some research.
[10:41] <EriC^^> tbnbuddha: it gives it out
[10:41] <OerHeks> there is an error in the pastebinit factoid
[10:41] <OerHeks> !pastebinit
[10:41] <fotang> I plugged in a fingerprint scanner/smart card reader combo device into a USB port, the light on the device didnt come on, and `lsusb' output included just one new entry (without a fullname):  "Bus 002 Device 027: ID 06e3:0606". I then suspended the computer and resumed, upon which the light on device came on and lsusb correctly showed the full names of 2 devices (Bus 002 Device 033: ID 076b:a022 OmniKey AG CardMan Smart@Link; andFutronic Technology Co. Ltd.
[10:41] <fotang> FS81 Fingerprint Scanner Module). How can I make ubuntu to do what it did after suspend , so that the two devices are seen without me suspending and resuming the OS?
[10:42] <fotang> oh that was rather a mouthful
[10:42] <tbnbuddha> oh ok thx. maybe i had another connection problem while doing it
[10:42] <fotang> ubuntu 16.04
 | pastebinit -b https://paste.ubuntu.com  ( mind the https )
[10:42] <OerHeks> then you get an URL.
[10:43] <OerHeks> ( which gives an http://paste.ubuntu.com adress )
[10:43] <Fedoration> Can I pull an active X window across X-over-ssh-tunnelling? Or can I *only* render the output locally if I launch the program that way?
[10:45] <we> is this a chat room?
[10:45] <fotang> we: yes
[10:46] <OerHeks> Fedoration, you need to enable X11 forwarding first, see thttp://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/12755/how-to-forward-x-over-ssh-from-ubuntu-machine
[10:46] <fotang> #linux
[10:47] <OerHeks> we, see the topic, ubuntu support irc channel
[10:47] <Fedoration> OerHeks: thanks. If forwarding is enabled in sshd config, does it *only* apply to launching new programs? Or can I bring an existing instance across the tunnel? That was my question.
[10:48] <we> who answered me?
[10:49] <teo_> I tried fullscreen X11 tunneling over a fast local lan, but the results where very disappointing. It froze every two seconds, and on major updates it completely failed...
[10:50] <teo_> I don' t think single window tunneling will be any better...
[10:50] <OerHeks> Fedoration, no, a new ssh connection can forward existing/running X11 fine
[10:51] <Fedoration> Awesome! How? I am SSHed into the remote machine, and launching an X program (such as x2, the text editor) gives me a new instance of that displayed locally. From "ps" I can see the PID of my remote instance of the program. How do I get it to redirect its X output over SSH?
[10:53] <th0r> Fedoration, just start the ssh session with the -X switch
[10:53] <OerHeks> Fedoration, ssh -X user@ip -p password
[10:54] <Vorap> Hey. I have a quick question. I've been looking around and I can't get a definitive answer. Can I run multiple screens on both my on-board graphics card and my dedicated graphics card and use the nvidia proprietary driver? Onborad is intel graphics and dedicated is an nvidia card.
[10:54] <OerHeks> or without password if you use keys
[10:54] <Fedoration> th0r: yes, I have logged into the remote system using the -X switch. When I start a NEW instance of a graphical program on the remote system it displays on the local system. My question still is how to get an *already running* instance of a graphical program on the remote system to *start displaying locally* over ssh.
[10:54] <Vorap> Since nouveau can't handle gaming
[10:55] <th0r> Fedoration, as far as I know, the only way is to restart the program from within the ssh session
[10:55] <Fedoration> th0r: Ahh :-( That would be annoying if that's required, as the whole point was I was trying to click "save" in a GUI where the physical console has gone unresponsive.
[10:56] <we> thanks ,OerHeks
[10:56] <Fedoration> [2016-10-07 10:50:33]<OerHeks> Fedoration, no, a new ssh connection can forward existing/running X11 fine  <<<--- if OerHeks can tell me how to do it, that would be awesome.
[10:57] <Vorap> Fedoration you can't switch tty? And then get into the running session from there?
[10:57] <dsnyders> HI all!  I'm sorry if this is off topic, but can anyone connect to lirc.org?
[10:57] <Fedoration> Vorap: no: Ctl-Alt-F1 / F2 / F7 do nothing. CapsLock doesn't even toggle the LED.
[10:57] <OerHeks> oh, i was convinced that running x could be forwarded,..
[10:57] <Vorap> Fedoration aah okay
[10:57] <Vorap> dsnyders Hey. Join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:58] <dsnyders> Vorap: Thanks.
[10:58] <Vorap> dsnyders no worries :)
[10:58] <th0r> +
[11:04] <we> #mintos
[11:05] <k1l_> !mint | we
[11:07] <we> i'm looking for some channels
[11:07] <Fedoration> we: type   /list   and press Enter
[11:08] <we> thanks
[11:08] <k1l_> !alis | we
[11:09] <we> keep rolling..
[11:18] <MadPsy> Does anyone happen to know if Bash 4.3 shipped with 16.04 has syslogging enabled?
[11:19] <MadPsy> (syslog support was added in 4.1 but is optional in config-top.h)
[11:21] <debkad> !test
[11:44] <useri> hi, how do i encrypt a harddisk with luks with a costume keyfile?
[11:44] <useri> cryptsetup --verbose --cipher "aes-cbc-essiv:sha256" --verify-passphrase luksFormat --keyfile=key ?
[11:44] <xuhaocheng> .
[11:44] <xuhaocheng> .
[11:50] <mike_papa> How often power indicator updates information about UPS charge? I am testing my APC Smart-UPS, and apcaccess says 50% charge now, but indicator still shows 34% as it was right after boot (something like 20 minutes ago).
[11:51] <india> what does this mean --   libpq-dev : Depends: libpq5 (= 9.4.1-1) but 9.6.0-1.pgdg14.04+1 is to be installed ?
[11:51] <proxx_> what it says
[11:51] <proxx_> something needs something
[11:51] <india> I am on ubuntu 15.04
[11:52] <popey> india: you should upgrade, 15.04 is long out of support
[11:52] <india> i upgraded yesterday from ubuntu 14.10 to 15.04
[11:52] <xuhaocheng> ?
[11:53] <india> I am not able to understand the meaning of this -- libpq-dev : Depends: libpq5 (= 9.4.1-1) but 9.6.0-1.pgdg14.04+1 is to be installed ?
[11:53] <debkad> it mean you must install libpq-dev version 9.6.0-1
[11:53] <we> 能说中文吗
[11:53] <popey> india: well, step one is upgrade to a supported release, preferably 16.04
[11:54] <debkad> we: 不，我不能
[11:54] <popey> india: looks like maybe you have an old ppa still enabled.
[11:54] <india> my college has 14.04 and he is able to install the packages
[11:54] <ppf> india: 14.04 is lts
[11:55] <ppf> meaning it's still supported
[11:55] <debkad> yes
[11:55] <india> how can i change old ppa to new ?
[11:55] <popey> india: well, step one is upgrade to a supported release.
[11:55] <ppf> you should upgrade to a supported version
[11:56] <popey> (or reinstall a supported release like 14.04 or 16.04)
[11:56] <Kartagis> ehlo
[11:56] <ppf> reinstall is probably the only correct way
[11:56] <india> no other way to install that package without supported release?
[11:56] <Kartagis> 16.04-4 doesn't have bluetooth enabled by default?
[11:56] <Kartagis> sorry, typo
[11:56] <popey> india: sure, probably, but we don't support unsupported releases here
[11:57] <Kartagis> 16.04
[11:57] <popey> Kartagis: it does
[11:57] <ppf> there's no upgrade path from 15.04 to 16.04
[11:57] <india> is there other channel for 15.04 ?
[11:57] <ppf> so reinstall is the only safe way
[11:57] <ppf> india: no
[11:57] <ppf> it's end of life
[11:57] <debkad> 14.04 and 16.04 both are lts, 15.04 is not
[11:57] <Kartagis> popey: I couldn!t find it under system settings
[11:57] <popey> Kartagis: a clean install?
[11:57] <Kartagis> aye
[11:58] <svilic1> Hi. Does anyone know who if there is a chat room for libc developers? Is this responsibility of kernel team (#ubuntu-kernel)?
[11:58] <ppf> svilic1: #glibc
[11:58] <popey> svilic1: there's not really a team for libc on ubuntu
[11:58] <debkad> svilic1: /msg alis list something
[11:58] <Kartagis> popey: are you asking me if it's a clean install, or are you suggesting?
[11:59] <popey> Kartagis: asking
[11:59] <Kartagis> aye, it's a clean install
[11:59] <popey> Kartagis: and is it Ubuntu 16.04 or some other flavour or derivative?
[11:59] <Kartagis> ubuntu 16.04
[11:59] <pineapplelover> hello what is this folder to? home/me/.cache/dconf
[11:59] <pineapplelover> for*
[11:59] <svilic1> @ppf, @popey, @debkad, thanks a lot
[11:59] <pineapplelover> why is it owned by root?
[12:00] <popey> pineapplelover: it isnt here
[12:00] <debkad> no problem svilic1
[12:00] <popey> pineapplelover: you probably ran something using sudo at some point which futzed the permissions on that
[12:00] <pineapplelover> popey: I have nagios installed
[12:00] <pineapplelover> popey: might be it
[12:00] <popey> Kartagis: does the device have bluetooth?
[12:01] <Kartagis> yes, it's a laptop
[12:01] <india> libpq-dev 9.6.0-1.pgdg14.04+1  got installed successfully on 15.04 , thanx guys
[12:02] <popey> Kartagis: does "hcitool dev" list any devices?
[12:02] <popey> india: yay, now upgrade :)
[12:03] <Kartagis> popey: aye, hci0
[12:03] <india> i have burnt the dvd 16.04 lts, will install tomorrow , on some work today
[12:03] <popey> Kartagis: odd, works here.
[12:03] <popey> india: good luck! :)
[12:03] <india> thanx
[12:04] <Kartagis> popey: it's not in system settings, nor is under all applications
[12:04] <india> i already have windows , linux mint , and 15.4 , but i want to replace mint by 16.04 , is it possible?
[12:04] <EriC^^> india: yeah
[12:05] <EriC^^> what 15.4?
[12:05] <india> ubuntu 15.04
[12:05] <EriC^^> that's unsupported
[12:05] <EriC^^> why dont you replace that one with 16.04?
[12:07] <india> will replace tomorrow
[12:12] <ititan> hello
[12:12] <ititan> test
[12:12] <ititan> this is a test
[12:13] <ititan> are you ok
[12:14] <EriC^^> india: i got dc
[12:15] <new_bee> guys, stupid newbie question: if i can run unity ok will gnome also as smooth?
[12:15] <EriC^^> new_bee: should be
[12:15] <new_bee> fantastic, thanks!
[12:16] <EriC^^> new_bee: no problem
[12:30] <EriC^^> do they literally mean dusting?
[12:36] <lordcirth> EriC^^, presumably not :)
[12:55] <qwertyco> nick
[13:03] <ronaldsmazitis> mouse just doesn't capture in 16.10 from virtual box
[13:06] <Windigo> %c
[13:07] <EriC^^> !ubuntu+1 | ronaldsmazitis
[13:10] <Fedoration> Vorap, th0r, OerHeks: It seems the way to redirect an active pre-existing X session to a new X-over-SSH tunnel is using "xpra": execute "xpra shadow :0" on the remote system and "xpra attach ssh:user@host" on the local system.
[13:12] <ZuZuD> Hello there
[13:22] <sunrise> we
[13:27] <bizzledizzle> hello?
[13:27] <sunrise> hi
[13:28] <sunrise> what's un
[13:28] <sunrise> what's up
[13:36] <multifractal> Somethign I forgot to backup before I clean installed - a utility that allowed me to connect L2TP VPN using the native ubuntu network settings manager... Can anybody think what this tool might have been? Can't remember.
[13:37] <multifractal> Currently in the 'choose a VPN connection type' dialog box I only have the option PPTP, but before I was able to create L2TP connections.
[13:40] <ldsflkjdsfkjldsf> ljk
[13:41] <sunrise_> j
[13:49] <Marsianer> hi. i have a fresh install on ubuntu 16.04 LTS desktop. i am experiencing problems with moving stuff on the desktop. moving via drag & drop doesnt work. instead a weird copy is made of the file. even with alt + click and the context menu "move here" it fails!
[13:49] <Marsianer> is this bug known
[13:49] <Marsianer> maybe i am having problems because i have 2 screens connected? extended , not mirrored
[13:50] <hateball> Marsianer: hammer your modifier keys (ctrl+alt+shift) to make sure they are not stuck?
[13:50] <Marsianer> i rebooted several times.
[13:50] <Marsianer> latest updates installed
[13:51] <Marsianer> SHIFT non shift...
[13:51] <Marsianer> keyboard is fine
[13:52] <Marsianer> there is not much installed yet. its strange anyways. simple drag and drop not working :(
[13:55] <Marsianer> ok i have more details! drag and drop only is messed up with links! folders and files work
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> Marsianer  drag from where
[13:56] <SchrodingersScat> oh, from a browser?
[13:56] <Marsianer> i have stuff on my desktop
[13:56] <Marsianer> a link on my desktop
[13:56] <Marsianer> wanna just move it some centimeters to the left or right
[13:56] <Marsianer> it gets copied and renamed
[13:56] <Marsianer> initially i found this out when i tried to move from monitor 1 to monitor 2
[13:56] <Marsianer> but same monitor fails also
[13:59] <Keal> I'm having some problem with my headset input quality. Would someone like to help?
[13:59] <Marsianer> ok. i now added a text file. moved. fine. changed it to html, moved fine. made a link to the html file, moved. fine. the only broken stuff is a link to a html page which i copied from somewhere else to the desktop!
[13:59] <new_bee> quick question: i'm running 16.04 and when i'm trying to download stuff via chrome or firefox i get pretty bad dl speeds, although torrenting gives me 3mb/sec. any clue what's wrong here on my end?
[14:00] <Marsianer> i am just copying stuff from my old hard disc to my new installed ubuntu 16. thats where i tried to copy my desktop links. and this fails
[14:00] <devnatu> guy how do i install chrome on ubuntu 16.4
[14:01] <devnatu> can some one please help i have tried few different thinngs but everythign has failed
[14:01] <new_bee> just downloaded the dev from their page
[14:01] <new_bee> deb*
[14:01] <new_bee> installed it with gdebi
[14:01] <Marsianer> chrome install is just google chrome in firefox, download deb file and open it with sofware installer
[14:02] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:03] <adolfu> duh
[14:03] <new_bee> so, does anyone know what causes slow dl speeds (while torrents reach up to several mb per sec)?
[14:04] <SwedeMike> new_bee: small TCP window size.
[14:04] <Keal> asd
[14:04] <RykerSaurous> Hello, I am trying to run a SIP however port 13000 is not avail. Works on a win 7 machine, won't work in win 7 VM on my laptop.
[14:05] <SchrodingersScat> new_bee: are you sure it's not the server that's slow?
[14:05] <Keal> new_bee: you can also check out "Chromium" called browser from software market
[14:05] <new_bee> how is this gonna be different from ff or chrome when it comes to downloads?
[14:05] <RykerSaurous> tried turning of the firewall no luck there either. Can't figure out why port 13000 isn't avail.  any ideas?
[14:06] <new_bee> don't know about the server though
[14:06] <new_bee> could be... although i'd feel stupid if it would :D
[14:07] <SchrodingersScat> new_bee: you could try with wget from your location and a remote location or maybe through a proxy, and then you'd be able to see if it's just your line or etc.
[14:09] <new_bee> wget is a lot faster than direct download
[14:09] <SchrodingersScat> new_bee: wget is great :)
[14:10] <new_bee> thanks :D
[14:10] <SchrodingersScat> new_bee: not sure why it would be much different, but at least that helps troubleshoot?
[14:10] <proxx_> im confused is the poo dead or alive
[14:10] <new_bee> well, now the speed dropped... from 2.5 mb to 400 kb /sec
[14:11] <new_bee> and lower
[14:11] <Keal> new_bee: are you using mobilebroadband?
[14:12] <new_bee> using wifi and router
[14:12] <Keal> new_bee: ok, so the router isn't using anykind of 3G/4G SIM card?
[14:12] <new_bee> nope
[14:13] <proxx_> sound like wifi driver
[14:13] <proxx_> try lowering power settings
[14:15] <new_bee> i'm using a proprietyr broadcom driver
[14:15] <new_bee> proprietary
[14:15] <EriC^^> cool
[14:16] <new_bee> yeah, right? should get it printed on a shirt
[14:18] <EriC^^> :D
[14:19] <proxx_> That would explain a lol lel
[14:19] <new_bee> what do you mean?
[14:19] <proxx_> broadcom is about as  good as realtek :'D
[14:21] <Keal> I'm having problems with microphone input
[14:22] <proxx_> Keal , try arecord from the cli and see if you can record anything
[14:25] <devnatu> thanks guys chrome all installed.
[14:26] <EriC^^> devnatu: good one
[14:29] <mike_papa> Does anyone know how to make upower show the same info what apcupsd? apcupsd works fine, and upower shows whatever ups state was at boot time. Never updates.
[14:29] <EriC^^> mike_papa: upower --monitor-details
[14:29] <EriC^^> iirc
[14:30] <mike_papa> EriC^^: nothing happened.
[14:30] <EriC^^> mike_papa: upower --monitor-detail
[14:32] <mike_papa> EriC^^: "Monitoring activity from the power daemon. Press Ctrl+C to cancel." when I disconnect mouse from USB, it shows something about it from time to time. But nothing about my ups.
[14:32] <mike_papa> EriC^^: I just disconnected AC. Nothing there. Only info about mouse.
[14:33] <mike_papa> EriC^^: and apcupsd reacts imidiatelly (actually after 6s delay, which is correct with settings).
[14:34] <EriC^^> *shrug*
[14:34] <marsh> Hello
[14:35] <lucidguy> I could use recommendations for two things.  Firstly I need a basic IDS solution, more of a log watcher I think.  Secondly, I would like to monitor a network connection, I blieve I used smokeping in the past. I want to keep track of uptime, latency, etc.
[14:41] <marsh> My computer will not recognize bootable usb. I have tried many different usb drives and made sure my boot was starting on USB first then HDD but it goes straight to HDD. can anyone help me. I Have Ubuntu 16 installed and need to go back to Windows.  Also, i have tried multi boot, uneboot, and even tried YUMI in wine and nothing. The startup disk maker that comes with the OS will not recognize my 10 ios but the others will.  Am i mis
[14:43] <arooni> hey folks; running ubuntu 16.04; but it looks like my /var/log/mail.log is 5GB !! and across associated error logs and mail.log.1 is a total of 10GB what should i do ?
[14:43] <arooni> i've run out of space on /
[14:43] <arooni> just rm?  but how can i make sure it doesnt happen again
[14:44] <MadPsy> assuming it's not root writing the logs there should be reserved blocks on /
[14:44] <StrongJava> marsh Did you set it up as dual boot? Have you tried more than one bootable usb?
[14:44] <arooni> MadPsy: /dev/sda1        28G   26G  963M  97% /
[14:44] <MadPsy> check reserved blocks, assuming it's ext4
[14:44] <MadPsy> ok so it's not ran out of space
[14:44] <devnatu> hey guys can anyone recomend the best way to learn linux, what i mean is by command line refs. i.e complete ubuntu/linux learning guide
[14:45] <arooni> well i dont need 10GB of mail logs
[14:45] <DK2> fix your logrotate?
[14:45] <MadPsy> you might if you send a shit load of mail
[14:45] <marsh> @strongjava yes i have tried multiple usb and nothing. I have Ubuntu 16.4 on now and was going to do a clean install and now i am stuck
[14:45] <arooni> i dont *think* i send any mail ; i use web mail for that
[14:46] <MadPsy> so check why they're filling up so quickly
[14:46] <nacc> !manual | devnatu
[14:46] <arooni> seeing a lot of stuff like this in the mail.log Oct  2 20:16:45 LilArooni nullmailer[2228]: Starting delivery: protocol: smtp host: mail file: 1474496703.11817
[14:46] <DK2> is it worth to upgrade from 14.04 to 16?
[14:46] <StrongJava> marsh Can you get into the computer's bios?
[14:46] <arooni> i have no idea what that means
[14:46] <MadPsy> reserved blocks in ext4 will prevent non-root from completely filling the disk, logrotate will look after rotating/compressing, but finding out why they're so big in the first place will solve the actual problem :)
[14:46] <nacc> DK2: completely depends on your usage :)
[14:46] <marsh> Yes @strongjava
[14:47] <DK2> well its just a postfix bos
[14:47] <DK2> box*
[14:47] <StrongJava> marsh Do you have another box you test the usb?
[14:48] <rootaccess> hi
[14:49] <MadPsy> arooni, why don't you check what the messages are.. might be a good start
[14:49] <rootaccess> anybody here?
[14:49] <arooni> so apparently the stuff there is all output from cron;  so it looks like i need to redirect cron output to /dev/null ?
[14:49] <arooni> so its like * * * * * /command/ &>1 /dev/null ?
[14:49] <MadPsy> yes, either by making the script be silent or by redirecting its output to /dev/null and leaving only stderr outputting
[14:49] <arooni> something like that?
[14:50] <nacc> DK2: if it's just a postfix box, and 14.04.5 is supported for another few years, i don't thik you have strong motivation to upgrade
[14:50] <average> W: GPG error: https://download.01.org/gfx/ubuntu/16.04/main xenial InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 56A3DEF863961D39
[14:50] <average> E: The repository 'https://download.01.org/gfx/ubuntu/16.04/main xenial InRelease' is not signed.
[14:50] <average> ^^ what's up with that?
[14:50] <MadPsy> >/dev/null  for stdout only, I'm assuming you actually want to catch stderr, if not,  &>1 should do it
[14:50] <nacc> average: you would need to contact that repository's owner
[14:51] <arooni> in this case i can throw away error messages
[14:51] <average> nacc: I'm not contacting s***
[14:51] <average> I'm just pointing out that it's a problem
[14:51] <arooni> but as a good learning experience; errors and output from cron get mailed somehow?
[14:51] <average> who the f*** am I to contact people, I have s*** to do
[14:51] <nacc> average: it's not a problem for #ubuntu
[14:51] <average> nacc: it most definitely is
[14:51] <average> nacc: and should be solved by one of the two parties involved
[14:51] <average> not me
[14:51] <marsh> StrongJava: I am using Boxes VM and it is recognizing the iso. So that tells me it is not the iso.  If you mean another computer than no. Ubuntu does see the usb and will allow me to write and read. It says it is ready to be used then i restart and nothing
[14:52] <nacc> average: no, this is the Ubuntu support channel. That is intel's repository, sorry
[14:52] <nacc> average: and your attitude is not appreciated
[14:52] <average> nacc: yes, and ubuntu is one of the parties involved
[14:52] <average> idgaf what channel what
[14:52] <MadPsy> average, you're wrong
[14:52] <average> I'm right.
[14:52] <average> end of story.
[14:53] <MadPsy> very good.
[14:53] <nacc> MadPsy: not worth your time, either, I think
[14:53] <average> also, ubuntu should have taken initiative to take ownership and offer those packages under its umbrella
[14:53] <nacc> lol
[14:53] <average> so that's another mistake
[14:53] <average> and it's f***ing bs that it doesn't happen
[14:53] <nacc> average: again, this is the *support* channel, please take rants to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:53] <rootaccess> excuse me but im new on ubuntu/linux, anbody know how i can start learning?
[14:53] <average> nacc: idgaf dude
[14:53] <average> I'll complain all I want
[14:54] <nacc> average: it will just lead to you getting kicked from the channel eventually
[14:54] <StrongJava> marsh Hmmm How did you create the USB?
[14:54] <nacc> !manual | rootaccess
[14:54] <average> nacc: like i care
[14:54] <average> I'm pointing out that it's a problem and someone should do something abou tit
[14:54] <average> *About it
[14:54] <rootaccess> nacc thanks mate ;)
[14:55] <MadPsy> average, why not just fix the problem rather than ranting about it.
[14:55] <average> MadPsy: because I have s*** to do
[14:55] <marsh> @strongjava in peppermint os 7 and i switched to Ubuntu when i purchased a Wacom bamboo tablet
[14:55] <average> MadPsy: I don't have time to fix Ubuntu's monumental flaws
[14:55] <MadPsy> I would assume that one of those things is adding the public key for that repo to your ubuntu installation.
[14:56] <average> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/intel-graphics-update-tool-linux-os-v2.0.2
[14:56] <average> oh wait.. they have signatures..
[14:56] <average> whatever
[14:56] <MadPsy> would you like me to SSH to your machine and fix it for you?
[14:56] <average> it still sucks and Ubuntu should take ownership of that s***
[14:56] <MadPsy> I'll do it for £250/hour, 1 hour minimum.
[14:56] <StrongJava> marsh Ok, I'm afraid I'm not of much help then. Just to clarify, you're trying to boot the physical box with the USB? Or, a VM?
[14:57] <average> W: https://download.01.org/gfx/ubuntu/16.04/main/dists/xenial/InRelease: Signature by key 09D6EF97BFB38E916EF060E756A3DEF863961D39 uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1)
[14:57] <average> so I've added the sig
[14:57] <average> and guess what...
[14:57] <average> uses weak digest algorithm?
[14:57] <average> whaaaaaat
[14:58] <MadPsy> so why not rant to Intel rather than #ubuntu
[14:58] <marsh> @strongjava i am trying to boot the physical box with USB
[14:58] <proxx_> such disaster, who fucking cares
[14:58] <average> because those are packages for Ubuntu, and Intel is a huge vendor
[14:58] <average> and how the f***ing f*** do you not care?
[14:58] <average> in what universe is Intel negligeable?
[14:58] <average> on Mars?
[14:58] <average> in a parallel galaxy?
[14:58] <proxx_> coz of signing  ? really
[14:58] <average> where
[14:58] <MadPsy> and ubuntu are responsible for every .deb made by anyone? including me?
[14:59] <average> anyway, it sucks
[14:59] <proxx_> are you bored ?
[14:59] <nacc> average: you've said that several times now. Please stop ranting
[14:59] <average> ok fine, I'll stop
[14:59] <wamicho> hello all i am using open connect on Gnome Ubuntu 16.04 and does not seem to work with the gui option how do i fix it please
[15:00] <sector_0> Hey
[15:01] <sector_0> I have an r9 290x GPU and I do a lot of GPU intensive task should I be running 14.04 or 16.04?
[15:02] <sector_0> I've already updated to 16.04 and I am already seeing issues with screen tearing
[15:02] <sector_0> What's my best option?
[15:02] <StrongJava> marsh Good. Personally, I would explore other ways to make a bootable usb and see if I could get anything to work.
[15:02] <proxx_> hows the mining going
[15:03] <sector_0> proxx_: me?
[15:03] <proxx_> *giggles
[15:03] <marsh> @strongjava what would you recommend. I have use everything i can think of. Now YUMI will not boot
[15:04] <StrongJava> marsh True, you did say that.
[15:04] <StrongJava> marsh I forgot.
[15:05] <StrongJava> And you also said you tried a different USB stick?
[15:05] <marsh> @strongjava you are fine. And yes 3 of them
[15:06] <proxx_> @sector_0 you would have to benchmark but I dont see much reason why 16 would be slower, plus you have longer support for the fx drivers hence 'better' drivers
[15:06] <proxx_> @sector_0 if ur gonna be gpu intensive I guess you wont be running anything like unity/gnome
[15:07] <StrongJava> marsh Man, I'd be looking at either burnin' a CD or the bios of the computer, I guess.
[15:08] <marsh> That is the sad part my cd burner stopped working on my computer
[15:09] <marsh> @strongjava Boxes VM is installing Window$ now so we will see what happens.
[15:10] <StrongJava> marsh Ok. I'm not familiar with Boxes VM. Is that an installer of some sorts?
[15:10] <arooni> are usage messages pretty much always in the format; Usage: logrotate [-dfv?] [-d|--debug] <required_input>  .. i.e. the stuff in [] are optional, and the stuff in <> is not ?
[15:12] <blur> #synergy
[15:12] <marsh> @strongjava it is a VM. Check it out. It is in the software center. It is like  VM but with out all the configurations. Just 3 clicks and done.
[15:13] <sector_0> proxx_: well it's not really a matter of speed but feature implementation
[15:14] <StrongJava> marsh What are you running it on?
[15:15] <sector_0> I'm trying to do ethereum mining but the program keeps crashing
[15:15] <sector_0> I've seen people doing in on 14.04 and 10.04 but never 16.04
[15:15] <sector_0> So I'm wondering if there's some issue exclusive to 16.04
[15:16] <marsh> @StrongJava i am running it on Ubuntu
[15:19] <blaisebool> hello. why "`http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/"
[15:19] <StrongJava> marsh On the computer that you can boot the HDD?
[15:20] <marsh> @StrongJava i am able to boot the HDD not the USB.
[15:21] <StrongJava> marsh I understood. Just trying to confirm it was off the HDD an not a different external media.
[15:22] <Guest1670> hello
[15:22] <Guest1670> i have a problem
[15:22] <StrongJava> marsh And, probably a stupid question, but have you tried a different USB port on the computer?
[15:22] <arooni> [
[15:22] <genii> !details | Guest1670
[15:23] <Guest1670> i am intalling ununtu on HP	15-AH150SA
[15:23] <z0mfg> !trigger
[15:23] <z0mfg> !help
[15:23] <z0mfg> !ubottu
[15:24] <marsh> @StrongJava okay. I would if i had one. My sister has a computer but wont let me use it. She is 14 that tells you alot
[15:24] <donofrio> phasing out x32 support ? humm
[15:25] <StrongJava> marsh lol How old are you?
[15:25] <marsh> @strongjava i am 33
[15:25] <z0mfg> !patience
[15:25] <marsh> *32 33 next year
[15:25] <z0mfg> !ubuntu
[15:26] <z0mfg> !debian
[15:26] <StrongJava> marsh I don't suppose your PC has a hardware test feature in teh bios?
[15:26] <z0mfg> !gentoo
[15:27] <z0mfg> aw
[15:27] <Ben64> z0mfg: private message the bot if you want to do that, or use ubottu.com
[15:27] <z0mfg> k
[15:27] <marsh> @strongjava i dont know. I will look into that. I am on my phone so it makes things a bit easier and harder at the same time
[15:28] <StrongJava> marsh Ok
[15:28] <debkad> ok last time i ask the same question: how to enable logs inside .xsession-errors , because i can't see errors their no matter what program i start ( cli or gui ) even when something crashed
[15:29] <EriC^^> debkad: logs are for losers
[15:29] <Guest1670> i am intalling ununtu on HP	15-AH150SA and it doesn't boot, and when I boot it frm boot menu it show a kernel panic, please say how to avoid it??
[15:29] <debkad> EriC^^: how to debug if something stop to work?
[15:30] <EriC^^> wave a hammer at the pc screen
[15:30] <blablablabla> Guest1670: this can be related to the way u boot it, u start it with BIOS or UEFI?
[15:30] <debkad> hmm
[15:30] <EriC^^> it'll start working again
[15:30] <debkad> :))
[15:30] <marsh> @StrongJava if i have too i can settle for u Ubuntu for now but i really do not like to settle
[15:31] <Guest1670> ok, i installed it, after it ,it says to reboot the pc, and when i reboot it, i has this problem
[15:31] <debkad> EriC^^: that all inside the .xsession-errors: http://dpaste.com/1WCMXWS
[15:32] <StrongJava> marsh I hear ya. Given you've tried different usb creation techniques on different usb sticks, it all seems to point to the USB port on the computer.
[15:32] <EriC^^> debkad: same here
[15:32] <debkad> odd
[15:32] <Guest1670> i have installed it for 5 time, and the same problem
[15:33] <marsh> @strongjava  that is what i was thinking but are there drivers for USB for Ubuntu
[15:34] <debkad> EriC^^: any idea how to enable it
[15:34] <StrongJava> marsh If you're not able to boot a USB on a physical box, then I don't think Ubuntu's USB drivers are the problem.
[15:36] <StrongJava> marsh Regrets, but I have to run shortly. I'm troubleshooting a 12V problem in our RV/house, and I just blew the last 15A fuse :-)
[15:36] <Jordan_U> marsh: What happens when you try to boot via USB?
[15:37] <EriC^^> debkad: maybe it's being sent somewhere else?
[15:37] <marsh> @strongjava to funny
[15:37] <debkad> EriC^^: yeah i think you're right but i can't see where goes those errors
[15:38] <EriC^^> debkad: which de and dm are you using?
[15:38] <debkad> EriC^^: xfce
[15:38] <marsh> @Jordan_U it just skips it and goes straight to the OS on HDD
[15:38] <StrongJava> marsh Let me know if you get it figured out. I'll likely be back on in a couple of hours.
[15:39] <marsh> @StrongJava hope you can fix your problem. I will thank you for your time and help
[15:39] <debkad> EriC^^: i even redirect startxfce4 to .xsession-errors from xubuntu.desktop and xfce.desktop
[15:39] <Guest1670> hi, i sad, am am installing ununtu on hp 15-AH150SA, i have installed it 5 time, and after i install it, it says to reboot the pc, if boot ubuntu from boot menu, hdd, is shows me a kernel panic
[15:40] <EriC^^> debkad: odd
[15:40] <debkad> i will try to reboot, i just loggin out/in
[15:41] <Guest1670> ei, anyone knows how to rezolv my problem???
[15:41] <Guest1670> pelase
[15:41] <Guest1670> please
[15:42] <marsh> Stop spamming chat. If someone know how to help they will reply
[15:42] <Jordan_U> marsh: How are you configuring your boot firmware to bolt from USB?
[15:42] <nacc> Guest1670: which version of ubuntu?
[15:43] <marsh> @Jordan_U i am going into BIOS and putting USB first. But i do not know what you mean by bolt
[15:44] <jean_> Hi room
[15:44] <Guest1670> last 16.04
[15:45] <debkad> rebooting no change in .xsession-errors
[15:46] <jean_> I come install ubuntu 16.04, and I want to use linux cnc, this software is not on the list !!?
[15:46] <nacc> Guest1670: LP: #1615361 ?
[15:46] <nacc> jean_: yes, i told you that yesterday
[15:46] <nacc> jean_: i also told you to read linuxcnc's instructions, which say to use 12.04
[15:46] <jean_> hello nacc
[15:47] <debkad> i think it is a bug
[15:48] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/at-spi2-core/+bug/1285444  debkad
[15:48] <jean_> nacc Ok I listen the ++ for 16.04! tell me I cannot use this version for linux!!
[15:48] <jean_> cnc
[15:48] <nacc> debkad: i think it's .cache/gdm/session.log now
[15:49] <linocisco> hi all
[15:49] <nacc> jean_: i'm not sure what you're saying? "listen the ++" ? But there is no cnc package in Ubuntu anymore.
[15:49] <debkad> nacc: i have xfce with lightdm
[15:49] <nacc> jean_: and like i said, please just *read* the linuxcnc page and their instructions
[15:49] <nacc> debkad: ok, maybe something similar (.cache/lightdm/...) ?
[15:49] <debkad> nope :(
[15:50] <linocisco> i can't find 64bit driver for Konica Minolta Page Pro 1390 MF B/W Laser All in one Laser Printer. what do I do?
[15:50] <arooni> how do i run smartmontools on a NTFS drive if the drive can't be mounted?  i.e. where can i find out which /dev/sda it is ?
[15:50] <Jordan_U> marsh: Swipe keyboard on my phone not quite getting the word I wanted (boot :).
[15:50] <Jordan_U> arooni: sudo parted -l
[15:51] <jean_> nacc ok I have 3 hard disk on this computer I can open a partition with 12.**
[15:51] <nacc> jean_: but keep in mind, as i've said several times, linuxcnc is not supported here. YOu need to contact the linuxcnc folks for help.
[15:52] <marsh> @Jordan_U now when i try to create a bootable USB it tells me it is busy.
[15:52] <jean_> nacc ok where can I obtain a contact of linuxcnc Folks
[15:53] <nacc> jean_: http://linuxcnc.org/
[15:53] <jean_> ok I try it
[15:54] <Jordan_U> marsh: No need for the '@' before a Nick. Have you ever successfully booted via USB on this machine? What OS is currently on it?
[15:55] <marsh> Here is the thing Can Libre Calc do everything Excel can do. If not i may settle with Ubuntu and try to install winconn
[15:56] <marsh> Jordan_U yes i have i have installed Mint, Peppermint, Fedora, OpenSUSE, and Ubuntu. Even Windows all using USB
[15:57] <marsh> On this computer
[15:58] <debkad> ioria: i will remove ~/.config/dconf/user
[15:58] <EriC^> debkad: it's adding stuff here to .xsession-errors
[15:58] <EriC^> it isn't adding much though
[16:00] <Jordan_U> marsh: Can you be at the grub shell and on IRC from another machine / phone at the same time?
[16:00] <debkad> EriC^: mine is steel the same, i was able to see errors with some autostart programs ( like conky script ) but now it insist to have only those 3 lines
[16:00] <mbeierl> marsh: In my experience, no, Calc is not 100% Excel compatible.  Can it "do" everything? It does what I need it to, but I cannot trust it to open XLS and save it back identically.  If I stick to its native Calc format, then it's good enough for what I need.
[16:01] <debkad> time to logout
[16:02] <marsh> Mbeierl thanks for that. I am needing to do spreadsheets for college classes
[16:03] <marsh> Jordan_U are you asking if i can chat on my phone and be at the grub at the same time
[16:03] <Jordan_U> marsh: Yes.
[16:03] <marsh> Jordan_U yes. Just tell me how to get to GRUB
[16:04] <marsh> Can you give me a few mins please
[16:05] <smokinjo> I am progressing in my Ubuntu move from Mac/Windows.  It is not really painful, but a few things need workign otu:)
[16:06] <debkad> this .xsession-errors things is going to make me mad
[16:07] <smokinjo> On my Mac, there are multiple desktops, like Workspaces.  I configured this on Ubuntu.  There Unity Tweak tool that allows this.   But, each time I turn on my computer, I need to arrange my software in th eworkspace I desitre.    On a Mac, I can assign a workspace to a particular software.  It will always opnen up in space #4, or #6 fo rexample.  How can I do this?
[16:09] <ffabry> hi
[16:09] <debkad> hi
[16:09] <mbeierl> Hola
[16:10] <eeytan> Hi. I have a strange font issue. It seems to only happen with proprietary software (like Perforce or Android studio.) Some fonts render as extremely tall with no spaces or very tall and not render. There's an example here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/834024/some-forms-render-wrong-probably-due-to-font-problem
[16:16] <morf> any news on 16.10 rc1 eta?
[16:17] <marsh> Jordan_U need to run to the library for internet access. The internet is down at my house.
[16:25] <jwitko> Hey All.  Is it normal when bonding interfaces that both sub-interfaces take on the MAC of the bond?   Also is it normal for two VLAN tagged interfaces off of the bond to share a MAC address?
[16:25] <jwitko> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23289587/plain/
[16:26] <mike_papa> How do I call Refresh() of org.freedesktop.UPower.Device?
[16:27] <brunch875> has anyone started to experience dodgy left clicks or is my mouse starting to fail me?
[16:27] <nacc> morf: #ubuntu+1
[16:27] <electricmilk> How do I add an internet shortcut to my desktop in Lubunu?
[16:30] <electricmilk> I've tried going to Properties on the Firefox shortcut and going to "Command" and putting in the URL but it doesn't work.
[16:34] <electricmilk> I've also tried adding "firefox http://www.website.com" in the command portion of properties but it doesn't work. Even when I tell it to execute in the terminal. When I type this in the terminal it works though
[16:36] <markuman> Hi, I've problems compiling with libsqlite3 using gcc (tcc and clang works fine). http://stackoverflow.com/questions/39917285/what-is-wrong-with-ubuntu-16-04-and-libsqlite3   and I don't see why, because /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ is included LIBRARY_PATH (see verbose output of gcc). and suggestions?
[16:36] <electricmilk> I guess I'll just create a bash file with "firefox http://www.website.com" on the desktop.  Surprising how difficult it is to add a internet shortcut to the desktop in Lubuntu. Ugh
[16:40] <trism> markuman: gcc -lsqlite3 s.c; should be: gcc s.c -lsqlite3;
[16:40] <trism> markuman: symbols are referenced in the order they are given on the command line
[16:41] <markuman> trism: huh that works
[16:41] <markuman> trism: will you solve it/comment it?
[16:43] <sdcardlinux> Hello
[16:43] <markuman> trism: but the order is only important when using gcc? because tcc and clang seems not interested in the order.
[16:43] <sdcardlinux> Are microsdcards fast enought to inatall ubuntu on it?
[16:43] <sdcardlinux> Enough
[16:44] <de-facto> yes but what if the fs always writes to the same cells?
[16:44] <markuman> sdcardlinux: depends on the class of the sdcard. in general: yes. but on some  ubuntu/os can be slow
[16:44] <sdcardlinux> Markuman class 10
[16:44] <sdcardlinux> 32GB
[16:45] <sdcardlinux> Im installing ubuntu but the installation ia not the fastest i dont know why
[16:45] <de-facto> maybe a special fs can spread out writes on the sdcard (so avoiding writing to same blocks)?
[16:45] <de-facto> i think sdcards doent implement wear leveling, but might be wrong
[16:45] <sdcardlinux> De-facto is thst for me?
[16:45] <sdcardlinux> That
[16:45] <de-facto> yes
[16:45] <NoImNotNineVolt> so, installing 16.04.1 and i'm at the "Where are you?" screen. is this just for tzinfo or does anything else get set here?
[16:45] <linocisco> hi all
[16:45] <sdcardlinux> Oh, what are you trying to tell me :D
[16:45] <linocisco> i can't find 64bit driver for Konica Minolta Page Pro 1390 MF B/W Laser All in one Laser Printer. what do I do?
[16:46] <NoImNotNineVolt> i'm not in any particular timezone, would like to set it to utc...
[16:46] <NoImNotNineVolt> do i just pick london? there's no "n/a" or anything? :P
[16:46] <NoImNotNineVolt> tried setting to mcmurdo and installed crapped out.
[16:46] <NoImNotNineVolt> s/led/ler/
[16:47] <NoImNotNineVolt> i can always fix my tz stuff later, so i'm mostly just curious if this step in the installer does anything else apart from setting tz.
[16:47] <trism> markuman: /lastlog markuman 10
[16:47] <sdcardlinux> De-facto?
[16:47] <de-facto> sdcardlinux im trying to tell you that flash memory has the problem of wearing out (flash cells leak charge and loose their state after a limited amount of writes). So if the filesystem writes always to the same cell, it might be damaged locally. ssd's have smart controllers spreading writes over all flash cells, but i dont think sdcards do that (might be wrong though). so you might want to investigate that and/or use a special filesystem
[16:47] <de-facto> for flash on it
[16:48] <sdcardlinux> I see
[16:48] <sdcardlinux> So you are telling methat the memory can get full really quick?
[16:48] <trism> markuman: I don't know about tcc and clang that's how gcc resolves symbols
[16:49] <de-facto> nope im telling you that your data can get corrupted if sdcards dont implement wear leveling in hardware or the fs takes care of spreading writes evenly on the address space of the device
[16:50] <sdcardlinux> I see
[16:51] <cscf> de-facto, sdcardlinux I looked it up, SD cards do wear leveling.  Still don't write too much, though.
[16:52] <sdcardlinux> In installing it
[16:52] <de-facto> cscf interessting, do you have a source?
[16:52] <cscf> de-facto, all the results on DuckDuckgo? http://superuser.com/questions/17350/whats-the-life-expectancy-of-an-sd-card
[16:53] <cscf> Your total writes will still be an issue, though.
[16:54] <lifted> Any reason I should NOT upgrade my Development machine to 16.04?
[16:54] <NoImNotNineVolt> are you allergic to systemd?
[16:54]  * NoImNotNineVolt has no idea if systemd is default init on 16.04
[16:55] <cscf> It is
[16:55] <de-facto> cscf nice, didnt know that before (always thought that sophisticated wear leveling would not fit in those tiny cards)
[16:55] <teenis> isn't systemd the default init in 15.04 too?
[16:55] <lifted> Systemd fucking blows.
[16:55] <lifted> sorry for language omg
[16:56] <lifted> systemd just gets me so excited in a bad way
[16:56] <cscf> de-facto, afaik it's "increment number of writes to each block as written, if writes  > x, use overprovisioned space"
[16:56] <cscf> teenis, it is
[16:56] <lifted> have you SEEN the PID 1 issues?
[16:56] <cscf> Nope.
[16:56] <cscf> I have seen 0 issues with systemd myself in any distro.
[16:56] <sdcardlinux> Installation almost done
[16:56] <sdcardlinux> Ia there a way to know the writing speed?
[16:56] <lifted> http://ewontfix.com/14/
[16:56] <lifted> ^ a MUST read
[16:57] <lifted> and if u want more info -> http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd.html
[16:57] <cscf> sdcardlinux, 'time dd if=/dev/zero of=/tempfile bs=1M count=10'
[16:57] <mike_papa> org.freedesktop.UPower.Device.Refresh() on /org/freedesktop.UPower/devices/ups/hiddev3 never shows up in "busctl monitor org.freedesktop.UPower". On other device (mouse) it works fine. What chould be the reason?
[16:58] <mike_papa> upower never updates ups status. No Changed() signal is sent.
[17:02] <de-facto> cscf in your opinion would it be beneficial to use something like JFFS2 on sdcards?
[17:03] <cscf> de-facto, I have not tried either JFFS, I don't know.  However, you might want to make use of tmpfs for whatever you can.
[17:04] <de-facto> yeah im using ssd and /tmp on ramdisk
[17:04] <de-facto> just curious about if it would be recommended to use some JFFS on sdcards
[17:05] <NoImNotNineVolt> systemd is awesome.
[17:05] <NoImNotNineVolt> from a developer's point of view.
[17:05] <NoImNotNineVolt> i can see how admins might hate it.
[17:06] <NoImNotNineVolt> but anyone that says it blows clearly doesn't spend much time packaging software, writing init scripts, etc.
[17:06] <cscf> I'm an admin.  I like it.  However, I think we are offtopic.
[17:07] <ppf> agreed
[17:07] <ppf> to both points :)
[17:11] <mrvirus> sir i having problem ?
[17:12] <cash> Hi Everyone
[17:13] <cscf> cash, hi
[17:13] <cash> Hey there
[17:13] <JK1> Hello
[17:13] <cash> I am proud of myself.  Was able to configure synaptics touchpad on my macbook to get it workable
[17:13] <cash> was very tough - not many guides out there
[17:13] <cash> that have actual descriptions of the features
[17:14] <cscf> cash, good for you! Did you have a support question?
[17:14] <jwitko> Hey All.  Is it normal when bonding interfaces that both sub-interfaces take on the MAC of the bond?   Also is it normal for two VLAN tagged interfaces off of the bond to share a MAC address?
[17:14] <jwitko> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23289587/plain/
[17:14] <bre> Hello
[17:15] <cash> Does anyone have tips for nvidia screen brightness control?
[17:15] <cash> registrydwords = 1 doesnt work on my machine for somereason
[17:15] <bre> I am running ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso live in a VM with Virtual Box
[17:16] <bre> I am trying to install guest additions but the CPU is just running close to 100% and never finishing
[17:16] <bre> http://imgur.com/a/C6Yj6
[17:17] <bre> The VM has 2 virtual processor cores
[17:17] <bre> Has anybody any idea why it is not working?
[17:18] <bre> VirtualBox Graphical User Interface Version 5.1.4 r110228 (Qt5.6.1)
[17:18] <bre> Host OS Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa
[17:19] <bre> Any other information that would help?
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> bre  mint is not supported here
[17:19] <ppf> !kernel
[17:19] <bre> MonkeyDust: ok but the VM has problem
[17:19] <cscf> MonkeyDust, the problem is the guest, probably
[17:20] <bre> MonkeyDust: I don't have a problem with OS
[17:20] <Dev_> hi, it's possible to use gnome-panel package (Gnome Flashback) desktop session on Ubuntu 16.10 using MIR ?
[17:20] <bre> MonkeyDust: It's ubuntu in a VM that isn't working
[17:20] <cscf> bre, you are installing the additions from iso?
[17:20] <bre> cscf: yes
[17:21] <cscf> bre, have you tried the virtualbox-guest-additions package?
[17:21] <bre> no cscf
[17:21] <cscf> bre, I would suggest canceling and trying the package
[17:22] <bre> cscf: yes I'm doing that now
[17:24] <NoImNotNineVolt> so, regarding the 16.04.1 installer, at the "Where are you?" screen, is there a "n/a" or "none" option that sets tz to utc?
[17:29] <cscf> NoImNotNineVolt, you could choose GMT, I know.  Is UTC not on the list?
[17:31] <bre> cscf: had to restart the VM. Was unusable. Error: Unable to locate package virtualbox-guest-additions
[17:32] <cscf> bre, it's been split, apparently.  virtualbox-guest-utils , etc.  'apt search virtualbox-guest'
[17:32] <winsen> hi all
[17:32] <winsen> I'd like to install amule but I had this error message, does anybody know how to fix it please? "E: Unable to locate package...
[17:33] <cscf> !info amule
[17:33] <cscf> winsen, are you on 16.04?
[17:33] <orion> Hi. How do I query dpkg to find out why a package was installed?
[17:34] <bre> cscf: https://gist.github.com/a354e07f4ec58bd0e5d1b414261f403a
[17:35] <cscf> orion, http://askubuntu.com/questions/5636/can-i-see-why-a-package-is-installed#5637
[17:35] <cscf> bre, have you done an 'apt update' ?
[17:36] <bre> cscf: I'll do it
[17:36] <minitrue> tmux a
[17:37] <bre> cscf: https://gist.github.com/df8d095ecc186cf735057bd96d47c7c4
[17:37] <hemant> hi
[17:37] <bre> cscf: I ran apt update a few times. Same problem each time
[17:39] <cscf> bre, do apt full-upgrade, then update again
[17:39] <bre> ok
[17:40] <orion> Thanks
[17:42] <tty2> Olá
[17:43] <Jakey3> when i setup postfix and send an email to a gmail account it goes into spam, how come?
[17:43] <bre> cscf: It's frozen again. Virtualbox doesn't seem great at the moment
[17:48] <cannotMakeBlueTo> Hi! Yesterday, i could make this bluetooth (Microsoft Designer) Mouse work on the lenovo L430 Thinkpad work, ubuntu mate running. It was detected and i could move it - after many days of trials - short after installing the gnome bluetooth packages available in synaptic. As it worked i saw on the panel bar that "spider" bluetooth sign with a lock! As this lock disappeared, i could no longer detect it... Any ideas?!
[17:54] <starsailor> I'm trying to install Lubuntu 16.04 on a laptop, and I get to the screen where it says "Installation type".
[17:54] <starsailor> And the "Continue" button is grayed out.
[17:54] <starsailor> I've selected "Erase disk and install Xubuntu".
[17:55] <starsailor> (Sorry, meant Xubuntu before, NOT Lubuntu.)
[17:55] <starsailor> Does anyone know why it's grayed out? How do I install the OS?
[17:56] <glitchd> stars
[17:57] <glitchd> starsailor, are you at the install screen?
[17:57] <starsailor> glitchd: Yes.
[17:57] <ZeekHuge> cannotMakeBlueTo: I have a BT keyboard working fine on that same laptop. not sure if I would be able to help .. (didn’t actually get what your case is )
[17:57] <glitchd> starsailor, do yo use a box that says root?
[17:58] <starsailor> glitchd: I'm not sure...? I just used Rufus to make a bootable Xubuntu on a USB thumbdrive, and told it to install.
[17:58] <starsailor> But I think Ubuntu disabled that and made you use sudo.
[17:58]  * starsailor shrugs.
[17:58] <glitchd> starsailor, im not sure what your problem is, could u please explain?
[17:58] <starsailor> Hold on, let me take a picture. :)
[17:58] <vfw> starsailor: Is your HD detected?
[17:58] <starsailor> Give me a bit.
[17:58] <vfw> starsailor: Yes, a picture...
[17:59] <glitchd> starsailor, i thought you were trying to install to the hard drive
[17:59] <OerHeks> starsailor, try live mode, maybe you have 4 primairy partitions already, that explains the greyed-out-install-button
[18:00] <OerHeks> 4 = max
[18:00] <glitchd> i was thinking that they just didnt select the root partition, which ive done in the past and had the same results of the install button being greyed out
[18:01] <cscf> glitchd, they are using auto, in which case they aren't shown the partitions
[18:01] <starsailor> https://imgur.com/a/KgiIA
[18:01] <Daenu> Hi folks
[18:01] <starsailor> This is the issue.
[18:01] <starsailor> I see, OerHeks.
[18:02] <glitchd> starsailor, can u take a picture of the rest of the screen?
[18:02] <Daenu> anyone an idea why php's mkdir() isn't working on a folder with chmod -R 777?
[18:02] <starsailor> This is a very old low-quality camera
[18:02] <starsailor> Hold on, let me turn it back on...
[18:02] <glitchd> starsailor, ok thx
[18:02] <starsailor> If you need pictures of anything else tell me now
[18:02] <starsailor> Because taking pictures here is a hassle
[18:03] <vfw> !screenshot > starsailor
[18:03] <glitchd> starsailor, thats screen is my only concern right now
[18:03] <starsailor> vfw: Erm, I'm not on the same computer I'm trying to instal lon.
[18:04] <starsailor> install on*
[18:04] <starsailor> That's the thing.
[18:04] <glitchd> starsailor, maybe dont turn off the camera after taking this picture?
[18:04] <vfw> starsailor: Ok, well this may be difficult...
[18:05] <glitchd> vfw, isnt difficult a synonym of linux?...lol
[18:05] <starsailor> glitchd: last picture https://imgur.com/a/KgiIA
[18:05] <glitchd> starsailor, and thats the screen that you cant click continue on?
[18:05] <starsailor> Yes.
[18:06] <starsailor> It's grayed out.
[18:06] <starsailor> Maybe because all partitions are occupied as someone pointed out?
[18:06] <starsailor> Maybe I can use gparted to fix that.
[18:06] <glitchd> go to the option of something else
[18:06] <starsailor> Ah yes.
[18:06] <starsailor> That may be the other way.
[18:06] <starsailor> OK hold on.
[18:06] <glitchd> count how many partitions there are
[18:06] <starsailor> ...Uhm.
[18:06] <starsailor> It's still grayed out.
[18:06] <vfw> starsailor: I think what you will probably need to do is manually delete the partiton(s).
[18:06] <starsailor> When I click "Something else".
[18:06] <starsailor> vfw: gparted oslt?
[18:07] <vfw> starsailor: Yes, something else.
[18:07] <starsailor> Something else?
[18:07] <glitchd> starsailor, does the button become clickable with any selection from that screen?
[18:07] <starsailor> glitchd: Nothing. It's gray for all options. :-S
[18:07] <vfw> starsailor: Is it UEFI?
[18:07] <starsailor> vfw: No. It's legacy BIOS.
[18:08] <starsailor> It's not new enough.
[18:08] <glitchd> starsailor, sounds like either your usb is bad, or all of you primary partitions are already taken
[18:08] <glitchd> starsailor, you could always just install with wubi inside windows
[18:08] <vfw> starsailor: Ok then, you should be able to just delete the partitions and go from there.
[18:08] <starsailor> glitchd: The last time I asked about wubi here, I was strongly discouraged.
[18:08] <starsailor> vfw: *nod*
[18:08] <starsailor> Sounds like a plan.
[18:09] <vfw> wubi is no lonoger supported
[18:09] <starsailor> Yeah.
[18:09] <starsailor> I was told that.
[18:09] <glitchd> starsailor, well honestly, wubi isnt the best idea but its not necessarily a bad idea
[18:09] <glitchd> starsailor, everyone situation is different
[18:09] <ioria> starsailor, what you had on that laptop ? windows ? did you correctly shutdown  ?
[18:09] <vfw> starsailor: A conventional install is much better.
[18:10] <starsailor> Well, glitchd, I'm already having an unusual problem, so I want to do it as *correctly* as possible to not run into issues. Since it isn't supported, if I have problems I can't come here and ask.
[18:10] <glitchd> starsailor, it seemed as if you were either unwilling or unable to delete a partition if need be
[18:10] <pavlos> from the live cd, you should have gparted to wipe out your disk
[18:10] <starsailor> ioria: Yeah, it has Windows 7 Professional, shut down correctly.
[18:10] <starsailor> pavlos: Right.
[18:10] <glitchd> starsailor, thats ok bud
[18:10] <starsailor> vfw: *nod*
[18:10] <ioria> starsailor, select 'Try ubuntu'
[18:10] <pavlos> you know how to use gparted?
[18:10] <starsailor> ioria: Hang on.
[18:11]  * starsailor shifty eyes.
[18:11]  * starsailor opens Google.
[18:11] <starsailor> ...maybe?
[18:11] <joe___> Hi. Is any simple but shure way to install qtox on ubuntu 16.04??
[18:11] <cannotMakeBlueTo> ZeekHuge: An other BT keyboard was detected and is running on ubuntu mate. Here, the case is of a special mouse, Microsoft Designer Mouse, i've google'd and it is a "low energy mouse", people have problems with the firmware, if it is detected, than it gets lost after some time, and the solution in the net did not work for me. My question is very special, a speculation: In the panel there is a BT sign, looks like ^^ or so (rotated). All the time
[18:11] <cannotMakeBlueTo> i could not see the mouse. But at some point, short after installing gnome BT packages i saw there something like ^^*, where the * was a lock added. I could use the mouse in this time. After an hour, that lock disappeared and the mouse was no longer detected in between. (Many rebooots...)
[18:11] <vfw> starsailor: The "Something else" option should take you to a  screen that allows for manual partitioning.
[18:11] <starsailor> vfw: That is what's curious; in the installer, "Something else" also leads to a grayed-out button.
[18:12] <starsailor> I'll try wiping the HDD first.
[18:12] <starsailor> With the OS loaded in live mode.
[18:12] <glitchd> starsailor, that will without a doubt work
[18:12] <starsailor> I hope so!
[18:12] <vfw> starsailor: Yes, that should do the trick.
[18:12] <NoImNotNineVolt> cscf: indeed, utc is not in the list. and neither is gmt. it's a list of places, not timezones.
[18:12] <glitchd> starsailor, but you do understand that your deleting windows, right?
[18:13] <starsailor> glitchd: ....uh, yes? You also saw I had "Delete Windows" in the original Installer.
[18:13] <starsailor> I don't want Windows. :-)
[18:13] <NoImNotNineVolt> that's why i'm wary of putting in a location, as i'm not sure what other settings this impacts besides tz
[18:13] <vfw> starsailor: There may also be a problem with the hard drive.  You can use smart tools to see
[18:13] <starsailor> vfw: I checked SMART data before, it seems OK.
[18:13] <starsailor> No errors, reallocated sectors, etc.
[18:13] <vfw> starsailor: Ok, good.
[18:13] <starsailor> Temperature is fine.
[18:13] <NoImNotNineVolt> presumably it will influence what keymap is suggested, etc., but it's not clear what else.
[18:13] <glitchd> it sounds more like either to many primary partitions already, or misconfigured options in the installer
[18:14] <NoImNotNineVolt> the installer is too 'friendly' :\
[18:14] <starsailor> glitchd: Hm, what kind of misconfigured options?
[18:14] <cscf> NoImNotNineVolt, As far as I know, it won't do anything besides change the suggested keymap and Locale.
[18:14] <kappa1> why is this command not working when I execute it inside a script "echo "1" | tee $PATH/fan1_manual
[18:14] <kappa1> "
[18:14] <glitchd> starsailor, like not selecting the root partition
[18:14] <kappa1> fankick.sh: line 5: tee: command not found
[18:14] <NoImNotNineVolt> so i guess i'll choose usa and then adjust my tz to utc after?
[18:15] <NoImNotNineVolt> really hate to be leaking localization information to my system config though
[18:15] <starsailor> glitchd: But where would that option even show? I didn't see any option for something like that.
[18:15] <starsailor> glitchd: That's something I saw for example during a manual install of CentOS 7 I had to do.
[18:15] <lesshaste> I am trying to use plex but I get this error on boot
[18:15] <glitchd> starsailor, sorry i meant mount point
[18:15] <lesshaste> [    4.893199] systemd[1]: [/lib/systemd/system/plexmediaserver.service:11] Invalid escape sequences in line, correcting: "/bin/sh -c 'LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/plexmediaserver /usr/lib/plexmediaserver/Plex\ Media\ Server'"
[18:15] <starsailor> glitchd: Right, right -- I didn't see that anywhere.
[18:15] <lesshaste> has anyone seen this?
[18:15] <starsailor> Up to that point.
[18:16] <glitchd> starsailor, did u see a screen like this? http://i.stack.imgur.com/5JkQX.png
[18:16] <starsailor> glitchd: Nope, nothing like that. That's a partition manager/
[18:16] <starsailor> Didn't see it.
[18:17] <glitchd> starsailor, that should be the screen thats presented when you select the something else option
[18:17] <starsailor> glitchd: But I already said it's grayed out. -_-
[18:17] <starsailor> I told you, I can't access it.
[18:17] <vfw> lesshaste: https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/207877/media-not-found-error-after-update
[18:18] <glitchd> starsailor, can you boot a live session?
[18:18] <starsailor> glitchd: Yep, in it right now. Loading GParted GUI as we speak.
[18:19] <glitchd> starsailor, do you care about any of the data on the hd?
[18:19] <ioria> starsailor, can you open a terminal ?  install pastebinit and sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[18:19] <starsailor> glitchd: not really. ioria: OK, hold on.
[18:19] <pavlos> kappa1, $PATH resolves to many paths which is not the proper way to write 1 to fan_manual
[18:19] <kappa1> ohhhhh right
[18:19] <ioria> starsailor, close the installer
[18:19] <kappa1> pavlos, what would be that proper way?
[18:19] <starsailor> ioria: It is.
[18:20] <pavlos> kappa1, do you know the full path of fan_manual?
[18:20] <effectnet> hello in here
[18:20] <ioria> starsailor, open a terminal
[18:20] <glitchd> starsailor, i would suggest then to just nuke the hd and create new partitions for data and swap and try your install again
[18:21] <joe___> Hi. Is any simple but shure way to install qtox on ubuntu 16.04??
[18:21] <starsailor> ioria: Opened.
[18:21] <ioria> starsailor,  install pastebinit and sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[18:21] <starsailor> ioria: *nod*, OK, hold on.
[18:21] <vfw> glitchd: starsailor Might be easier to just delete all partitions and go from there.
[18:21] <kappa1> pavlos, yes
[18:21] <glitchd> thats what i just said..
[18:22] <pavlos> kappa1, example: touch bob, then echo 1 > tee /home/kappa/bob
[18:22] <pavlos> kappa1, use > not I (redirection not pipe
[18:22] <kappa1> hummm
[18:23] <kappa1> the problem is that I need to issue the sudo command along with tee
[18:23] <kappa1> with ">" I can't do that
[18:23] <EriC^^> kappa1: echo something | sudo tee /path/to/sile
[18:23] <EriC^^> or tee -a to append
[18:23] <kappa1> 2nd question, how can I run something at boot time with sudo rights?
[18:24] <EriC^^> kappa1: make a systemd unit
[18:24] <kappa1> I just have to put my script here: /etc/init.d
[18:24] <kappa1> but it won't run as sudo
[18:24] <EriC^^> that's old sysv
[18:25] <EriC^^> use a systemd unit
[18:26] <vfw> kappa1: Depends on what you want to run.  You might just use a cron job.
[18:26] <kappa1> just run a script 1 time
[18:26] <kappa1> with sudo rights
[18:27] <kappa1> EriC^^, is that the simplest way?
[18:27] <mitya>  а кто-нибудь русский знает ?
[18:27] <vfw> kappa1: One time?  Or one time each session?
[18:27] <kappa1> One time
[18:28] <pavlos> !ru | mitya
[18:29] <mitya> Спасибо
[18:29] <vfw> kappa1: You could use a cron job, and then delete it.  You could use /etc/rc.local and then delete it.... Just what ever is easiest for you.
[18:29] <morgoth> ubuntu is so fucking buggy!
[18:29] <mitya> хотя мне лень
[18:29] <vfw> kappa1: But if you only need to do it one time, why not just manually run it?
[18:29] <kappa1> vfw, but can I run scripts with sudo on rc.local?
[18:30] <kappa1> I mean, one time whever the system boots
[18:30] <vfw> kappa1: No need for sudo on rc.local
[18:30] <vfw> kappa1: Just use full path to script
[18:30] <kappa1> ok
[18:32] <vfw> kappa1: You may need to enable rc.local  sudo systemctl enable rc-local.service
[18:32] <Bartito> t
[18:32] <Bartito> is there any channel for help with ubuntu?
[18:33] <vfw> kappa1: And be sure the  script has executable bit enabled.
[18:33] <vfw> Bartito: You're on it.
[18:33] <Bartito> lol, thanks
[18:34] <Bartito> my drama is.. I get hwid ban for a page web.. and i am looking any app for change my hwid
[18:35] <EriC^> what hwid?
[18:35] <Bartito> i see it for win.. but uncle google doesn't want to help me
[18:35] <EriC^> you mean the headers that has your browser info?
[18:35] <Bartito> idk sure.. i change my address mac but isn't working
[18:35] <vfw> Bartito: What do you mean by hwid?
[18:36] <Bartito> hardware id
[18:36] <EriC^> the mac address is irrelevant to the webpage
[18:36] <vfw> Bartito: Oh ok.  MAC address.
[18:36] <EriC^> Bartito: is it from your isp or the web page?
[18:36] <Bartito> web page
[18:36] <vfw> Bartito: You need to describe more clearly what the problem is.
[18:36] <EriC^> Bartito: what does the web page say?
[18:36] <Bartito> i used vpn.. proxies and nothing is working
[18:37] <EriC^> Bartito: try using tor browser
[18:37] <ikonia> try not using anything
[18:37] <EriC^> the header says usually windows xp or something
[18:37] <vfw> Bartito: ... then I would say it is not your identity that is the problem.
[18:37] <ikonia> try just surfing the internet like most people do
[18:38] <EriC^> ikonia: out of context
[18:38] <EriC^> *you're
[18:38] <Bartito> ikonia seriusly i was looking for 2 days before come here..
[18:38] <ikonia> ahh
[18:38] <ikonia> I'm missing some context,
[18:39] <pavlos> starsailor, is your install working now?
[18:39] <EriC^> Bartito: what does the site say exactly?
[18:39] <Bartito> so i dont have more resources..
[18:39] <Bartito> oh
[18:39] <starsailor> pavlos: I was trying to get what ioria said up and running, but for some reason the WiFi isn't connecting.
[18:39] <Bartito> i didn't want to do spam.. lol
[18:39] <vfw> Bartito: I still do not think we fully understand what you're up against.  Not sure what advise to offer, (other than try another browser).
[18:40] <Bartito> i change the browser
[18:40] <Bartito> *changed and nothing
[18:40] <pavlos> starsailor, you might be able to active wifi within the live CD, see software and updates, additional drivers
[18:41] <pavlos> activate
[18:41] <vfw> Bartito: Without more details on your issue, I'm not sure what we can offer in the way of advise.
[18:41] <starsailor> pavlos: Yeah, I was looking now.
[18:42] <pavlos> starsailor, but the install should proceed w/o network ...
[18:43] <starsailor> pavlos: Well, the install would, but I was specifically trying to run that command successfully.
[18:43] <starsailor> In any case, I would want networking to update it while it installs.
[18:43] <starsailor> :)
[18:43] <pavlos> starsailor, ok, I recall somone asked you to get pastebinit
[18:43] <starsailor> Yes, that is what I was trying to do. It seems to be already installed in the live USB, I just need to get the other command done.
[18:44] <pavlos> starsailor, do you have wired eth nearby?
[18:44] <starsailor> I do. The laptop lacks an RJ45 port.
[18:44] <starsailor> :-)
[18:45] <vfw> starsailor: Eventually, you'll need some way to connect to internet.
[18:45] <starsailor> vfw: Of course.
[18:45] <pavlos> starsailor, try a wifi usb stick if available
[18:45] <genii> Bartito: If a web page is telling you your MAC address it doesn't mean anything unless the web page is on a device like a router or other machine directly connected to you. Web pages out on the internet will only see the MAC address of a machine directly connected to them as well, so usually the last one in the route which goes from your machine to that place where the web page is at.
[18:45] <vfw> haha, yea, it would be like buying a new sports car and not being able to get out of the drive way.
[18:46] <starsailor> pavlos: *nod*
[18:46] <starsailor> vfw: lol. Yes.
[18:46] <Disaster_Area> hey my headphone jack isn't working and I was wondering on the off-chance if it might be a software rather than hardware issue, how could I troubleshoot it and maybe fix it?
[18:48] <Disaster_Area> oh wait nvm it's working now fsr. wasn't working when I tested a minute ago and earlier however
[18:49] <vfw> Disaster_Area: Yea, it may be software related.  Try alsamixer, make sure everything is turned up.  Also try other ports.
[18:49] <tomreyn> if, without changing the software, it suddently started working, then its most likely a broken wire
[18:49] <pavlos>  or dust ...
[18:50] <vfw> or hardware issue.
[18:51] <kappa1> I added the script to rc.local but it does not get executed
[18:52] <kappa1> vfw^
[18:53] <vfw> ls -l /path/to/script  #See that script has executable script enabled.
[18:55] <pavlos> kappa1, so before the exit 0 line, you add echo 42 > /home/kappa/bob, run the script (/etc/rc.local), the contents of bob should be 42
[18:56] <starsailor> Hm, now, OK, this is interesting.
[18:56] <kappa1> ok, just one more thing
[18:56] <starsailor> The SHA1 checksum doesn't coincide with what I see at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/16.04.1/release/SHA1SUMS
[18:56] <kappa1> pavlos, if a command fails, no subsequent commands are executed right?
[18:56] <pavlos> starsailor, bad iso
[18:56] <starsailor> pavlos: Bah.
[18:57] <kappa1> vfw, ok I think the problem is that the first command fails
[18:57] <vfw> ls -l /path/to/script  #See that script has executable *bit* enabled.
[18:57] <pavlos> kappa1, can you pastebin /etc/rc.local ?
[18:57] <vfw> kappa1: Ok, then fix the command.
[18:57] <vfw> pavlos: We probably need the script as well.
[19:01] <elias__> hi!
[19:02] <vfw> lo!
[19:04] <hara> sup
[19:04] <hara> an1 thr
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> ths s th spp chnl
[19:05] <EriC^> i see a career for that person in compression algorithms
[19:05] <glitchd> lol
[19:06] <pavlos> faulty keyb
[19:06] <cscf> English is a highly compressible language. 1.2 bits per char, iirc.
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> ok
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> :)
[19:26] <marsh> I am doing a fdisk-l in command and it is telling me command not found. I am also in root
[19:28] <mbeierl> Does anyone know if Ubuntu preseed can configure two NICs on install, or if the second NIC must be configured after the installation has completed?
[19:28] <th0r> marsh, a space after fdisk
[19:28] <marsh> Oh okay. Thanks.
[19:29] <cannotMakeBlueTo> Hi! Yesterday, i could make this bluetooth (Microsoft Designer) Mouse work on the lenovo L430 Thinkpad work, ubuntu mate running. It was detected and i could move it - after many days of trials - short after installing the gnome bluetooth packages available in synaptic. As it worked i saw on the panel bar that "spider" bluetooth sign with a lock! As this lock disappeared, i could no longer
[19:29] <cannotMakeBlueTo> detect it... Any ideas what happens?!
[19:31] <northw> HI! Any alternative to "pitivi"?
[19:34] <mrrobot_> hi
[19:34] <tomreyn> hello mrrobot
[19:34] <mrrobot_> how r things
[19:35] <mrrobot_> i'm from egypt
[19:36] <tomreyn> !ask | mrrobot_
[19:36] <tomreyn> welcome
[19:36] <mrrobot_> welcome
[19:37] <ben_____> Hello all
[19:37] <tomreyn> hey ben_____
[19:38] <ben_____> How do you turn off joins and leaves?
[19:38] <ben_____> Hid Joins
[19:38] <ben_____> Hide Joins
[19:38] <tomreyn> ben_____: i'm not sure you can do so on the webchat
[19:39] <tomreyn> you couild use a proper irc client, though, most of which offer this.
[19:39] <ben_____> nvm, got it figured out
[19:39] <ben_____> Proper clients :P what a novel idea
[19:39] <glitchd> how do you do it ben_____ ?
[19:39] <CloudBoi> having a weird issue, I just imaged my box and I can access the terminal locally using the root credentials, but when I try to ssh via the local IP, it tells me the password is wrong
[19:40] <ben_____> I'm connecting through freenode, I went up to the top left and selected options and there is a hide joins/leaves/parts option
[19:40] <CloudBoi> and this is happening even on the box itself when I try to run ssh root@localhost
[19:40] <mrrobot_> hi
[19:40] <glitchd> ben_____, what client are you using?
[19:41] <mrrobot_> gnome
[19:41] <ben_____> the Site is webchat dot freenode dot net
[19:41] <glitchd> mrrobot_, elliot does not ask for help in the irc..
[19:41] <glitchd> ben_____, ok, well i guess it doesnt apply to me then
[19:41] <tomreyn> CloudBoi: root login is usually disabled by ssh by default
[19:42] <avi__> hmmm
[19:42] <ben_____> http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages
[19:42] <CloudBoi> i got it, i just copied my pub key to the authorized keys folder
[19:42] <tomreyn> CloudBoi: i meant to say: root login by ssh is usually disabled by default
[19:42] <ben_____> Check that one out glitchhd
[19:42] <pavlos> CloudBoi, check PermitRootLogin in sshd_config
[19:42] <CloudBoi> thank you tomreyn
[19:42] <tomreyn> welcome
[19:43] <glitchd> ben_____, mmk thx
[19:43] <mrrobot_> i want to chat private
[19:44] <mrrobot_> with any one
[19:44] <ben_____> I got one for you. I'm running a 16.04 vm on a win7 machine through vmware workstation.  I'm using the NAT connection, and when I ping say google, I get that it can detect the host (74.125.138.139) but no packet transfers :/
[19:44] <glitchd> ben_____, thx that did help
[19:44] <arooni>  how do i pipe whats on the clipboard into a command  on the command line ?
[19:44] <tomreyn> ben_____: that's a matter of forwarding packaget on the host. not an ubuntu issue.
[19:45] <cannotMakeBlueTo> this is ubuntu mate xenial running. In trusty there was a chance to install kscreensaver, i only needed kclock.kss. Now, this package is gone. Where can i get the kclock.kss and how can i make it run (from the command line via kclock.kss& at least) ?!
[19:45] <ben_____> Hmm, I was thinking that might be the case. I'm doing it on  a work computer and it's already forwarding enough stuff aroudn
[19:45] <ben_____> It will work with Win vms and some other linux distro's, but I just can't get the bridge connect to work on 16.04
[19:46] <starsailor> glitchd, ioria, everyone else that helped me -- it seems after redownloading the ISO and making sure the hash was fine, this time the installer proceeded as expected.
[19:46] <starsailor> The corrupt ISO was the cause.
[19:46] <pavlos> starsailor, good news
[19:47] <ioria> starsailor, that's good , cheers