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chamoisHey sakrecoer ! Have you finished rendering?15:22
zequenceSeen some tendencies to go forwards with publishing the new version of the web site. I would not say a word, but since it is still largely based on a 'work in progress' kind of thing, that I revamped - based on knomes theme.18:35
zequenceIt's not ready. And, you should put some more time into it!18:35
zequenceIt was bad, to begin with. No reason to make it worse.18:36
zequenceJust make sure to make it at least something viewable.18:37
zequenceexit18:38
sakrecoerchamois, yes i have fibished rendering, now the question is how to format :)19:07
sakrecoerthis wtitten zequence is right in regard of the short term until spike hit.19:10
sakrecoeron the other hand what is he talking about? some riddle with a sollution? is the answer fully free? he runs the stage site after all...19:13
sakrecoers/he/zequence19:14
zequencesakrecoer: kisses back (as were recieved by sms)19:46
zequenceI can understand if my remarks may seem unfriendly, or even antagonistic, but I do think that the current proposition for the website is not up to par.19:48
sakrecoerzequence: exit right..? was curipus to know if you had chanhesd number... bonne nuit kaj19:49
zequenceThere was an idea of using the original colors. But, instead other things were put in focus, which made the original stuff look bad. How about dropping the original stuff, and making the whole thing actually look good?19:50
zequenceThe original blue looks terrible19:51
zequenceSo, change it19:51
zequenceAnd, the images also look terrible. Sorry to say to19:51
zequenceIt's very chaotic19:51
zequencePerhaps in the right contxt19:52
zequenceNot in the grey/white/blue context19:52
zequenceI'm sure  sakrecoer can educate you in how that does not work, or does work, according to what he has studies in graphics (I seem to remember him explaining how the top bar of a DE can not be dark, if the rest was not)19:53
sakrecoerzequence: legacy, fam. tack for giving me your ways19:53
zequenceall I'm saying is that I'd rather you'd not use any of my work19:55
sakrecoeri hope i can steers this up, i'm not sure. just doing what i can, not hating you. actualy missing you. as my sms said.19:55
zequenceYou are making it a frane19:55
zequencefrankenstein19:55
sakrecoerespecialy the speaking about the universe part 19:55
sakrecoeri think we have backed up 'your' work. you can feel safe and delete it.19:56
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zequencesakrecoer: You entirely miss the point of not seeing how bad the artwork looks.19:57
zequenceIt's bad, but you like it19:57
zequenceSo, you will make the worst decisions19:58
sakrecoerzequence: you entirely miss the poont of npt seeing hoe much i loved you19:58
sakrecoerso you made the worst decision19:58
zequencesakrecoer: No, you are the two-faced one. And, you make it seem like someone else is.19:58
zequencesakrecoer: You are the one who double-crosses. Like you did with Jimmy, for no reason.19:59
zequenceWhat you are saying now is just your own fantasies19:59
sakrecoerok, 'we' (the 2 faces me) will see. bye! big kiss.19:59
zequenceWell, I guess this is what the French school of arts give us - the new look for Ubuntu Studio!20:01
zequenceRight?!20:01
zequenceAnyway, the only reason why I'm communication here now is that you should consider to drop all of the stuff that I have contributed for the latest web stie20:02
zequencesite*20:02
zequenceI don't like the results, myself. Do you, actually?20:02
zequenceMake a decision for the better..20:03
zequenceI mean, I can't believe i'm the only one having these opinions about the proposed web site20:05
sakrecoerthanks for truting me zequence, if it wasnt for you i wouldnt be here. i thank you once again and hope respobsabilityness will give you good faith and hope20:09
sakrecoerlove and unconditionality; your AFK huamn, Set20:10
zequenceI just want the web site to look ok, and if it looks bad, I'd rather none of my stuff was in it.20:11
zequenceSimple as that.20:11
sakrecoerPS. i will consider all good yoy gave me. all day everyday today and tomorrow. goodnight 20:11
zequenceThe original stuff was ok when it was just white, <originalblue>, <newgrey>. But, that was just an attempt20:12
zequenceSo, evolve it.20:12
sakrecoerok, thank you for jumping in, hope we will read your opinion soon again20:12
zequencesakrecoer: At least remove my part of it20:13
zequencesakrecoer: All of it20:13
zequencesakrecoer: Even the textual part20:13
zequence(which is most of the original site)20:13
sakrecoerok, we will. although, none of us have shell acvess to the stage site, i will do my best to reach the troll20:14
zequencesakrecoer: You don't need access to the the source. The text is in WP20:14
zequenceThe download page, for example20:15
zequencesakrecoer: Also, change the grey. That is my grey.20:15
zequencesakrecoer: It doesn't fit with the new stuff. just change it. Even if you just change it one "bit"20:15
zequenceAgain, I'm just worried that you will present an awful looking web page20:16
zequenceMost of the text is contributed by me. Change it.20:19
zequenceMake it better.20:19
zequenceDont' be lazy, and without taste20:19
zequenceHow much am I asking, anyway?20:20
zequenceJust remove me, if you will. From the source. All of it. Do it.20:20
zequenceAll the wiki pages. All of the artwork. linux-lowlatency. All of it.20:21
zequenceAnd, start from scratch.20:21
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zequenceOk?20:23
sakrecoerzequence ia not a troll, just a bi polar guy with a lot of sadness.20:24
zequencesakrecoer: You're interpretations don't hold a lot of water, I'm afraid.20:24
sakrecoerdoes it hold sand?20:25
zequenceDoesn't work when you already made an ass of yourself in public20:25
zequence(which surely a lot of us have made)20:25
sakrecoeri'm sorry you chosr an ass to replace you :'(20:25
zequenceI didn't choose. No one did20:25
sakrecoeryes20:26
zequenceBut, I did establish the vote20:26
sakrecoeryes20:26
zequenceSo. do you think you will have a second look at the future web page?20:27
zequence(and remover all of my stuff)?20:27
sakrecoerhttp://youtu.be/QGeYD3rCUG020:28
zequencebtw, I'm the last person to be bipolar, but sakrecoer is just one step away from being scizophrenic.20:31
zequence(I'm suffering from other things, for sure, and will never lie about that)20:32
krytarikzequence: Can you please just stop and leave now?20:32
sakrecoerbtw i am the first person to be cute, for sure, zequence wad always original20:32
zequencekrytarik: You are quite right. And, I hope to see the results, all though uncorfirmed by you or anyonw.20:41
sakrecoerhere we are wondering who i what on a cyberbasis, while tjose who have met IRL, can't agree over simple things as 'beauty of a webpage'20:41
zequenceMy communication is this: 1: I don't agree with the proposed web site 2: remove my work.20:43
zequenceSimple, right?20:43
sakrecoeranyway, i'm drunk. now also sad. its good to be human on apropriate latitudes 20:43
zequenceWhatever..20:43
sakrecoeri'm sure we can sort out 2.) as for one, please come back to the team, with another argument then tastr  prefarvly when its' not friday.20:47
sakrecoeri wish i was better than the prevous. i am not. all i want is the project to live on.21:08
zequencesakrecoer: Just revampt the site. and, also, put the staging site somewhere else. I'm about to change my contract with the web hotel (not to remove the staging site), but because I have no need for it.21:40
zequenceThink you have already saved all the changes, I hope. 21:41
zequenceIn either case, I will not do anything for at least a week.21:41
zequencekrytarik: And, please, keep your opinions to yourself, if you have none of value to share. Don't tell me what to do.21:42
zequenceJust want to make sure everyone knows. Set keeps sending me private messages with all sorts of insults, and werid meanings.23:04
zequenceI don't answer him (except for two sms latey=.23:04
zequenceI have told him long ago not to contact me, but still he does23:05
zequencekrytarik: astraljava: DalekSec: flocculant: OvenWerks: ^23:06
zequenceHe just keeps sending me sms's, though I expressively told him not to23:07
zequenceThis is your project lead23:07
zequenceIf he has ever sent me a personal IRC message over the last months since Jimmy quit the team, I have not even been aware of it, since I put an igone rule in my irssi settings for it23:08
zequenceCan't do the same on my SMS23:08
zequenceThe reason for the irssi rule was simply because he would not stop sending messages23:12
* zequence is wanting to stay as long away from the development process as possible, so do not mistake on thing for another in this case23:13
zequenceBut, it is also important that things are fair, and right23:14
zequenceIf you ever ask me - was I bullied? I will answer no, because no one can bullie me. The very thing, that Set accused me of, a few times.23:15
zequenceBut, that is me.23:15
zequenceI do question how such a person can continue being in the position that he is, while acting the way that he does23:17
zequenceAnd, I sincerely despise the way groups are formed according to his psychology23:18
zequenceYou want to be a part of that group, or you want to do things in an honest way?23:22
* zequence is not in any way wanting to be a part ot future Ubuntu Studio development, just to be clear23:23
zequenceIMO, if things continue in this way, that will cast a shadow on Ubuntu Studio as a whole23:25
sakrecoertonight i sent seven sms to zequence, because he fave me what i got. sorry.23:29
zequencesakrecoer: you're good at feeling sorry when yoy realize that your position may be compromized23:31
zequenceIn the case of Jimmy, you only felt sorry after you realized there might be consequences23:31
zequenceIsn't that right?23:32
sakrecoeryou can look up my provider and you can look up freendoe. i learned alot from zequence, i'm sorry it wasn't reciproke.23:32
zequenceSuddenly you are on you kneed, like a child23:33
zequenceknees*23:33
zequenceWhy?23:33
sakrecoerzequence: you met cub, but you slept st mine. what else can i say?23:34
sakrecoeri am where iam beacause you put me there. 23:34
zequencesakrecoer: Yes, I met jimmy (cub), and I slept at your place.23:35
zequenceI didn't put you there. You were the only one who volunteered.23:35
zequenceIn my eyes, all of this would be inrecoverable, but perhaps not all people think like I do23:37
zequencePerhaps you will pass through in this case, sakrecoer 23:37
zequenceBecause, you have friends, like krytarik, or even DalekSec 23:37
zequenceAnd, they will have your back23:38
zequenceAnd, that is the sum of the judgement of all of those people23:38
zequenceBut, in the and, today, all III wanted was to have my artwork removed from a potential website that I felt was not up to par23:39
zequenceI want my grey removed, that is all23:39
zequenceDo what you want23:39
zequenceJust, don't use my grey.23:39
zequenceI feel what you are doing now is ugly, and I given the things that have happened over the recent months, I don't want to be apart of that "ugly" in any way.23:40
sakrecoeryou have friends, like me.23:41
zequencesakrecoer: I don't need friends. I'm not like you, in any way23:41
zequenceMy grey was beautiful. But, it didn't work well with images. The blue is also very fragile.23:44
zequenceChange it. It looks fucking awful right no!23:44
zequenceIt's just stupid using the old colors with the recent additiions23:45
sakrecoeralthough at this point: fuck you i forgive you. good noght23:45
zequencesakrecoer: Just change it, and stop sending me messages!23:47
zequenceIt's not like am a graphics artist. I only did that since no one else was able23:50
zequenceThat said, I'm not an idiot, far from it.23:50
zequenceGraphics was my first love, so I spent some time learning it.23:51
zequenceThink Set wants the easy way out23:52
zequenceThere are a number of ways he could get it too23:52
zequenceHe wants to be my friend. He really, really, wants to be my friend23:53
zequenceActually, he doesn't care about me at all23:53
zequenceHe knows this23:53
zequenceit's not new to him23:54
zequenceHe has a sort of handicap23:54
zequenceHe can't fully relate to peoples feelings23:54
sakrecoercan you? my 'friend'...23:55
sakrecoerbye, come back some time tomorrow.23:56
zequenceHe's really sweed and kind, but actually he's just working on gaining your trust23:56
zequencesakrecoer: Haha, du är psykpat på riktigt, eller hur?23:57
zequencesakrecoer: Det är jag som styr dig nu23:57
sakrecoerhårda straff för att var din kompis...23:57
zequencesakrecoer: Jag ska vara snäll23:58
zequencesakrecoer: Vi glömmer allt som har hänt med Ubuntu Studio23:58
zequencevi ska bara vara ärliga mot varandra.23:59

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