[15:22] <chamois> Hey sakrecoer ! Have you finished rendering?
[18:35] <zequence> Seen some tendencies to go forwards with publishing the new version of the web site. I would not say a word, but since it is still largely based on a 'work in progress' kind of thing, that I revamped - based on knomes theme.
[18:35] <zequence> It's not ready. And, you should put some more time into it!
[18:36] <zequence> It was bad, to begin with. No reason to make it worse.
[18:37] <zequence> Just make sure to make it at least something viewable.
[18:38] <zequence> exit
[19:07] <sakrecoer> chamois, yes i have fibished rendering, now the question is how to format :)
[19:10] <sakrecoer> this wtitten zequence is right in regard of the short term until spike hit.
[19:13] <sakrecoer> on the other hand what is he talking about? some riddle with a sollution? is the answer fully free? he runs the stage site after all...
[19:14] <sakrecoer> s/he/zequence
[19:46] <zequence> sakrecoer: kisses back (as were recieved by sms)
[19:48] <zequence> I can understand if my remarks may seem unfriendly, or even antagonistic, but I do think that the current proposition for the website is not up to par.
[19:49] <sakrecoer> zequence: exit right..? was curipus to know if you had chanhesd number... bonne nuit kaj
[19:50] <zequence> There was an idea of using the original colors. But, instead other things were put in focus, which made the original stuff look bad. How about dropping the original stuff, and making the whole thing actually look good?
[19:51] <zequence> The original blue looks terrible
[19:51] <zequence> So, change it
[19:51] <zequence> And, the images also look terrible. Sorry to say to
[19:51] <zequence> It's very chaotic
[19:52] <zequence> Perhaps in the right contxt
[19:52] <zequence> Not in the grey/white/blue context
[19:53] <zequence> I'm sure  sakrecoer can educate you in how that does not work, or does work, according to what he has studies in graphics (I seem to remember him explaining how the top bar of a DE can not be dark, if the rest was not)
[19:53] <sakrecoer> zequence: legacy, fam. tack for giving me your ways
[19:55] <zequence> all I'm saying is that I'd rather you'd not use any of my work
[19:55] <sakrecoer> i hope i can steers this up, i'm not sure. just doing what i can, not hating you. actualy missing you. as my sms said.
[19:55] <zequence> You are making it a frane
[19:55] <zequence> frankenstein
[19:55] <sakrecoer> especialy the speaking about the universe part 
[19:56] <sakrecoer> i think we have backed up 'your' work. you can feel safe and delete it.
[19:57] <zequence> sakrecoer: You entirely miss the point of not seeing how bad the artwork looks.
[19:57] <zequence> It's bad, but you like it
[19:58] <zequence> So, you will make the worst decisions
[19:58] <sakrecoer> zequence: you entirely miss the poont of npt seeing hoe much i loved you
[19:58] <sakrecoer> so you made the worst decision
[19:58] <zequence> sakrecoer: No, you are the two-faced one. And, you make it seem like someone else is.
[19:59] <zequence> sakrecoer: You are the one who double-crosses. Like you did with Jimmy, for no reason.
[19:59] <zequence> What you are saying now is just your own fantasies
[19:59] <sakrecoer> ok, 'we' (the 2 faces me) will see. bye! big kiss.
[20:01] <zequence> Well, I guess this is what the French school of arts give us - the new look for Ubuntu Studio!
[20:01] <zequence> Right?!
[20:02] <zequence> Anyway, the only reason why I'm communication here now is that you should consider to drop all of the stuff that I have contributed for the latest web stie
[20:02] <zequence> site*
[20:02] <zequence> I don't like the results, myself. Do you, actually?
[20:03] <zequence> Make a decision for the better..
[20:05] <zequence> I mean, I can't believe i'm the only one having these opinions about the proposed web site
[20:09] <sakrecoer> thanks for truting me zequence, if it wasnt for you i wouldnt be here. i thank you once again and hope respobsabilityness will give you good faith and hope
[20:10] <sakrecoer> love and unconditionality; your AFK huamn, Set
[20:11] <zequence> I just want the web site to look ok, and if it looks bad, I'd rather none of my stuff was in it.
[20:11] <zequence> Simple as that.
[20:11] <sakrecoer> PS. i will consider all good yoy gave me. all day everyday today and tomorrow. goodnight 
[20:12] <zequence> The original stuff was ok when it was just white, <originalblue>, <newgrey>. But, that was just an attempt
[20:12] <zequence> So, evolve it.
[20:12] <sakrecoer> ok, thank you for jumping in, hope we will read your opinion soon again
[20:13] <zequence> sakrecoer: At least remove my part of it
[20:13] <zequence> sakrecoer: All of it
[20:13] <zequence> sakrecoer: Even the textual part
[20:13] <zequence> (which is most of the original site)
[20:14] <sakrecoer> ok, we will. although, none of us have shell acvess to the stage site, i will do my best to reach the troll
[20:14] <zequence> sakrecoer: You don't need access to the the source. The text is in WP
[20:15] <zequence> The download page, for example
[20:15] <zequence> sakrecoer: Also, change the grey. That is my grey.
[20:15] <zequence> sakrecoer: It doesn't fit with the new stuff. just change it. Even if you just change it one "bit"
[20:16] <zequence> Again, I'm just worried that you will present an awful looking web page
[20:19] <zequence> Most of the text is contributed by me. Change it.
[20:19] <zequence> Make it better.
[20:19] <zequence> Dont' be lazy, and without taste
[20:20] <zequence> How much am I asking, anyway?
[20:20] <zequence> Just remove me, if you will. From the source. All of it. Do it.
[20:21] <zequence> All the wiki pages. All of the artwork. linux-lowlatency. All of it.
[20:21] <zequence> And, start from scratch.
[20:23] <zequence> Ok?
[20:24] <sakrecoer> zequence ia not a troll, just a bi polar guy with a lot of sadness.
[20:24] <zequence> sakrecoer: You're interpretations don't hold a lot of water, I'm afraid.
[20:25] <sakrecoer> does it hold sand?
[20:25] <zequence> Doesn't work when you already made an ass of yourself in public
[20:25] <zequence> (which surely a lot of us have made)
[20:25] <sakrecoer> i'm sorry you chosr an ass to replace you :'(
[20:25] <zequence> I didn't choose. No one did
[20:26] <sakrecoer> yes
[20:26] <zequence> But, I did establish the vote
[20:26] <sakrecoer> yes
[20:27] <zequence> So. do you think you will have a second look at the future web page?
[20:27] <zequence> (and remover all of my stuff)?
[20:28] <sakrecoer> http://youtu.be/QGeYD3rCUG0
[20:31] <zequence> btw, I'm the last person to be bipolar, but sakrecoer is just one step away from being scizophrenic.
[20:32] <zequence> (I'm suffering from other things, for sure, and will never lie about that)
[20:32] <krytarik> zequence: Can you please just stop and leave now?
[20:32] <sakrecoer> btw i am the first person to be cute, for sure, zequence wad always original
[20:41] <zequence> krytarik: You are quite right. And, I hope to see the results, all though uncorfirmed by you or anyonw.
[20:41] <sakrecoer> here we are wondering who i what on a cyberbasis, while tjose who have met IRL, can't agree over simple things as 'beauty of a webpage'
[20:43] <zequence> My communication is this: 1: I don't agree with the proposed web site 2: remove my work.
[20:43] <zequence> Simple, right?
[20:43] <sakrecoer> anyway, i'm drunk. now also sad. its good to be human on apropriate latitudes 
[20:43] <zequence> Whatever..
[20:47] <sakrecoer> i'm sure we can sort out 2.) as for one, please come back to the team, with another argument then tastr  prefarvly when its' not friday.
[21:08] <sakrecoer> i wish i was better than the prevous. i am not. all i want is the project to live on.
[21:40] <zequence> sakrecoer: Just revampt the site. and, also, put the staging site somewhere else. I'm about to change my contract with the web hotel (not to remove the staging site), but because I have no need for it.
[21:41] <zequence> Think you have already saved all the changes, I hope. 
[21:41] <zequence> In either case, I will not do anything for at least a week.
[21:42] <zequence> krytarik: And, please, keep your opinions to yourself, if you have none of value to share. Don't tell me what to do.
[23:04] <zequence> Just want to make sure everyone knows. Set keeps sending me private messages with all sorts of insults, and werid meanings.
[23:04] <zequence> I don't answer him (except for two sms latey=.
[23:05] <zequence> I have told him long ago not to contact me, but still he does
[23:06] <zequence> krytarik: astraljava: DalekSec: flocculant: OvenWerks: ^
[23:07] <zequence> He just keeps sending me sms's, though I expressively told him not to
[23:07] <zequence> This is your project lead
[23:08] <zequence> If he has ever sent me a personal IRC message over the last months since Jimmy quit the team, I have not even been aware of it, since I put an igone rule in my irssi settings for it
[23:08] <zequence> Can't do the same on my SMS
[23:12] <zequence> The reason for the irssi rule was simply because he would not stop sending messages
[23:13]  * zequence is wanting to stay as long away from the development process as possible, so do not mistake on thing for another in this case
[23:14] <zequence> But, it is also important that things are fair, and right
[23:15] <zequence> If you ever ask me - was I bullied? I will answer no, because no one can bullie me. The very thing, that Set accused me of, a few times.
[23:15] <zequence> But, that is me.
[23:17] <zequence> I do question how such a person can continue being in the position that he is, while acting the way that he does
[23:18] <zequence> And, I sincerely despise the way groups are formed according to his psychology
[23:22] <zequence> You want to be a part of that group, or you want to do things in an honest way?
[23:23]  * zequence is not in any way wanting to be a part ot future Ubuntu Studio development, just to be clear
[23:25] <zequence> IMO, if things continue in this way, that will cast a shadow on Ubuntu Studio as a whole
[23:29] <sakrecoer> tonight i sent seven sms to zequence, because he fave me what i got. sorry.
[23:31] <zequence> sakrecoer: you're good at feeling sorry when yoy realize that your position may be compromized
[23:31] <zequence> In the case of Jimmy, you only felt sorry after you realized there might be consequences
[23:32] <zequence> Isn't that right?
[23:32] <sakrecoer> you can look up my provider and you can look up freendoe. i learned alot from zequence, i'm sorry it wasn't reciproke.
[23:33] <zequence> Suddenly you are on you kneed, like a child
[23:33] <zequence> knees*
[23:33] <zequence> Why?
[23:34] <sakrecoer> zequence: you met cub, but you slept st mine. what else can i say?
[23:34] <sakrecoer> i am where iam beacause you put me there. 
[23:35] <zequence> sakrecoer: Yes, I met jimmy (cub), and I slept at your place.
[23:35] <zequence> I didn't put you there. You were the only one who volunteered.
[23:37] <zequence> In my eyes, all of this would be inrecoverable, but perhaps not all people think like I do
[23:37] <zequence> Perhaps you will pass through in this case, sakrecoer 
[23:37] <zequence> Because, you have friends, like krytarik, or even DalekSec 
[23:38] <zequence> And, they will have your back
[23:38] <zequence> And, that is the sum of the judgement of all of those people
[23:39] <zequence> But, in the and, today, all III wanted was to have my artwork removed from a potential website that I felt was not up to par
[23:39] <zequence> I want my grey removed, that is all
[23:39] <zequence> Do what you want
[23:39] <zequence> Just, don't use my grey.
[23:40] <zequence> I feel what you are doing now is ugly, and I given the things that have happened over the recent months, I don't want to be apart of that "ugly" in any way.
[23:41] <sakrecoer> you have friends, like me.
[23:41] <zequence> sakrecoer: I don't need friends. I'm not like you, in any way
[23:44] <zequence> My grey was beautiful. But, it didn't work well with images. The blue is also very fragile.
[23:44] <zequence> Change it. It looks fucking awful right no!
[23:45] <zequence> It's just stupid using the old colors with the recent additiions
[23:45] <sakrecoer> although at this point: fuck you i forgive you. good noght
[23:47] <zequence> sakrecoer: Just change it, and stop sending me messages!
[23:50] <zequence> It's not like am a graphics artist. I only did that since no one else was able
[23:50] <zequence> That said, I'm not an idiot, far from it.
[23:51] <zequence> Graphics was my first love, so I spent some time learning it.
[23:52] <zequence> Think Set wants the easy way out
[23:52] <zequence> There are a number of ways he could get it too
[23:53] <zequence> He wants to be my friend. He really, really, wants to be my friend
[23:53] <zequence> Actually, he doesn't care about me at all
[23:53] <zequence> He knows this
[23:54] <zequence> it's not new to him
[23:54] <zequence> He has a sort of handicap
[23:54] <zequence> He can't fully relate to peoples feelings
[23:55] <sakrecoer> can you? my 'friend'...
[23:56] <sakrecoer> bye, come back some time tomorrow.
[23:56] <zequence> He's really sweed and kind, but actually he's just working on gaining your trust
[23:57] <zequence> sakrecoer: Haha, du är psykpat på riktigt, eller hur?
[23:57] <zequence> sakrecoer: Det är jag som styr dig nu
[23:57] <sakrecoer> hÃ¥rda straff fÃ¶r att var din kompis...
[23:58] <zequence> sakrecoer: Jag ska vara snäll
[23:58] <zequence> sakrecoer: Vi glömmer allt som har hänt med Ubuntu Studio
[23:59] <zequence> vi ska bara vara ärliga mot varandra.