[00:38] <c-mate> wew thats an intense password
[00:39] <c-mate> ok screen cracked on me
[00:39] <c-mate> now im on inspiron 1525
[03:10] <sekreta> Hi, has anyone successfully gotten Private Internet Access running in 16.04 recently? All the guides and forum posts I have found online and followed have been unsuccessful.
[16:49] <18WAABBOV> I need help, i had just installed ubuntu-mate on my new laptop [Lenovo 100s] but my power always stays at 100% so i have to install a new battery driver bu found no one please hel me!
[17:02] <18WAABBOV> I need help, i had just installed ubuntu-mate on my new laptop [Lenovo 100s] but my power always stays at 100% so i have to install a new battery driver bu found no one please hel me!
[21:16] <Burn2> hello
[21:16] <Burn2> if someone is already here, i have got a question to confirm a bug on "mate + compiz"
[21:21] <Snipes> Hi Burn2. What's the bug?
[21:21] <Burn2> Hi Snipes
[21:21] <Burn2> Here is the problem, that i could reproduce on the live cd without any upgrade
[21:21] <Burn2> so i enable compiz in the option of mate tweak.
[21:22] <Burn2> With compiz enable, alt + tab does not show the minimised application has it should. The option is already on on the pluggin, i have tested all the pluggin that does that on compiz and it's already the same
[21:23] <Burn2> On the panel, the application is here, i could call it back again, so it's just like the "alt + tab" does not see it when it's minimised, even if the option to take care of it is enabled
[21:23] <Burn2> In fact if i use the "alt + tab option for all the desktop" i see the minimised application
[21:24] <Burn2> but not on the option for the curent desktop even if the application is on this panel
[21:25] <Burn2> sometimes after minimised it disapear from the panel too, the application is steal running, but mate does not see it again. It only appear with compiz, not with the default option or compton
[21:25] <Burn2> (and with all the update, it's the same of course)
[21:26] <Snipes> I also have Compiz. Gonna check it out
[21:29] <Burn2> The disaparition seems to appear less, perhaps it's when i use the "all deskop alt + tab" that show the windows, and then when i minimise it it disapear from the panel too (i should take a look to confirm), it's like compiz and mate does not really work togever and something goes wrong
[21:30] <Burn2> thank's Snipes.
[21:31] <Snipes> Minimized windows disappear here also when using Application switcher
[21:32] <Burn2> so it's the same problem. And do you confirm the over part? That alt + tab does not show the minimised application?
[21:32] <Snipes> I'm using Shift switcher
[21:33] <Snipes> In Shift switcher you can do Alt + Super + Tab and that is showing minimized windows
[21:33] <Burn2> i have tested all, and always have the same problem
[21:34] <Burn2> yes Snipes but, it will show the application of all the desktop, that's the same
[21:34] <Burn2> so it's the same problem then me, it does not work has it should. :/
[21:34] <Snipes> Strange. I only have the bug in Application Switcher
[21:35] <Snipes> But yes, normal switching in Shift Switcher also doesn't show minimized windows
[21:35] <Burn2> i am on "ring switcher", and it's the same, alt tab "normal" does not show the minimised application, only if i use all worksplace
[21:35] <Burn2> so you confirm the bug :/
[21:36] <Burn2> where does this bug could be reported? is it more compiz or mate related?
[21:36] <Snipes> Yes. But is this also in other distro's? You should Google it. I don't really miss it, so I never researched the bug :P
[21:36] <Burn2> i have google it and found nothing
[21:37] <Burn2> it's like nobody found the bug...
[21:37] <Snipes> Than it could be a Mate bug
[21:37] <Snipes> Couldn't hurt to report it to Mate and Compiz
[21:37] <Burn2> i was going to use ubuntu mate, but then with such bug i could not :(
[21:37] <Burn2> i could confirm that on xfce + compiz on ubuntu 14.04 all was ok
[21:38] <Snipes> So why not use xfce?
[21:38] <Snipes> It's a good distro. I just couldn't get some themes working, so I tried Mate and stuck with it
[21:39] <Burn2> because on the xubuntu 16.04 i have got problem with compiz too
[21:39] <Burn2> but it was on the "panel"
[21:40] <Burn2> not panel, on the theme of the decorator
[21:40] <Burn2> but could be related to the upgrade from 14.04
[21:40] <Burn2> so after testing mate, i found it good. So i have made a clean install with made, thinking that all would be ok has it's an official integration of compiz
[21:41] <Burn2> i will test fresh install with xubuntu + compiz see if all is ok
[21:41] <Burn2> i am connected to irc made to see if it's just related to "ubuntu" integration/version of mate
[21:42] <Snipes> xfce and Compiz has been problematic for me in previous versions. so I haven't used compiz with xfce. I find Mate to work better with compiz than xfce
[21:43] <Burn2> i do not have any problem before with xfce, that's a lot of time i use it on all my computer
[21:43] <Snipes> But I cant remember if the Alt + Tab problem also was in Xubuntu, so you'll heve to test it
[21:44] <Snipes> I had it the other way around :P
[21:44] <Burn2> in 14.04 that was not the same, i will test on the 16.04 to see, but i doupt.
[21:44] <Snipes> But it could be a hardware difference. You never know
[21:45] <Burn2> perhaps, but i am using it on a lot of different computer, one with intel igp sandy bridge, one with nvidia 250GTS, an other with an old 6600go with no problem
[21:46] <Burn2> for the mate + compiz pb, it's more related to the integration. But it could be the version of compiz, or the "old" version or mate that make the problem
[21:46] <Snipes> I used to be a distro hopper, but I've settled with Mate now, so I can't tell you anything about the new Xubuntu, so you'll have to install it. But installing Linux is fun :P
[21:47] <Burn2> yes no problem, it's a test computer, so i could do it, with no problem for my production, my other computer is steal on 14.04 until i found what i will use. :d
[21:48] <Burn2> but, it's bad that except that, everything was good on the ubuntu mate version. :/
[21:52] <Burn2> i have see that ubuntu use the 1.12.1 version where as the latest is 1.16, and on the 1.14 i see thing related to "alt + tab"
[21:56] <Burn2> i could test linux mint mate version to see if it's the same, when i have got time, that would confirm that's version related
[21:58] <Snipes> I think testing is the only option at the moment. i can't find anything online either. Only some bugfixes for minimized windows in Unity
[22:01] <Snipes> Now I'm actively searching for bugs in compiz in Google, I have found some more. Luckily no bugs that I would stop using Mate of Compiz :)
[22:02] <Burn2> yes i am upgrading to the mate 1.14 from the ppa to see if it solve or not the problem, if it solve it would be an information
[22:02] <Burn2> but i do not know where to report the bug after that
[22:03] <Burn2> ok i come back, i have to reboot, to see if it's solve or not. If i do not come back, it would be that i have brocken mate :d
[22:04] <Snipes> Ok. Good luck
[22:05] <burn2> Ok nothing brocken :d
[22:05] <burn2> V 1.14.1, let see if it solve or not the problem
[22:05] <Snipes> cool
[22:06] <burn2> nothing change....
[22:07] <Snipes> Too bad.
[22:07] <burn2> so it's more related to compiz perhaps
[22:08] <Snipes> That would be logical.
[22:08] <burn2> will see if i could found a ppa with updated version of compiz...
[22:10] <Snipes> I have to go, but good luck with testing!
[22:12] <burn2> ok thank's; i will have to go too, i do not find any ppa for compiz...