[01:39] <Qwertie> Ubuntu touch uses mir right?
[02:34] <dobey> Qwertie: yes
[02:35] <dobey> unity8 is based on mir
[05:20] <cc> is there any application about "Contacts blacklist"?
[05:21] <cc> ubuntu phone
[05:21] <cc> mei zu pro 5
[07:32] <Tims_Tech> Could someone help me with creating a stock device tree?
[09:48] <krowv> I’m trying to use phablet-dev-bootstrap -c phablet
[09:48] <krowv> keep getting this error: ERROR:phablet-dev-bootstrap:Error while trying to sync repository
[09:48] <krowv> is a repo down or something?
[09:53] <Tims_Tech> krowv, yes
[09:54] <krowv> well that would explain it
[09:54] <Tims_Tech> yes
[09:54] <Tims_Tech> I tried today too
[09:55] <krowv> just successfully built AOSP for my nexus 4, and now was moving onto building Ubuntu Phone from source.   Guiess it’ll have to wait.
[09:55] <Tims_Tech> yep
[09:55] <Tims_Tech> I need to make a device tree for AOSP first
[09:55] <Tims_Tech> we have cm11
[09:55] <Tims_Tech> but I can't use that one.
[09:56] <TheKit> Tims_Tech, do you have cm12?
[09:56] <Tims_Tech> nope
[09:56] <Tims_Tech> cm11
[09:57] <Tims_Tech> ad cm12 is done but doesn't work on the HN version, the H is lucky though
[09:57] <krowv> So is Ubuntu Phone still based off of 4.4.2_r1?
[09:57] <Tims_Tech> I think
[09:57] <Tims_Tech> yes
[09:58] <krowv> ultimately I’m trying to make Ubuntu Phone work on a Galaxy S4.
[09:58] <Tims_Tech> possible
[09:58] <Tims_Tech> :P
[09:58] <Tims_Tech> but you need a AOSP device tree
[09:58] <krowv> doesn’t seem like it should be to horrible if I can get AOSP to run on it.
[09:58] <TheKit> or if you have CM12, you can try with UBPorts tree
[09:58] <Tims_Tech> The cm11 and cm12 device trees are very
[09:58] <Tims_Tech> the same
[09:58] <Tims_Tech> :P
[09:59] <krowv> I’m confused.  is their an ubuntu based off of CM?  Or are you just talking about using CM
[09:59] <TheKit> Ubuntu is based off AOSP
[09:59] <Tims_Tech> yes
[09:59] <Tims_Tech> but it was based of CM
[09:59] <TheKit> there is unofficial tree based of CM (UBports)
[10:00] <krowv> interesting
[10:00] <Tims_Tech> I want to build Ubuntu touch by myself so I dont want UBports
[10:00] <Tims_Tech> :P
[10:01] <Tims_Tech> need to eat lunch
[10:01] <krowv> Tims_Tech: what would be the difference?
[10:01] <Tims_Tech> krowv, doing things by yourself gives you a feeling :P
[10:01] <TheKit> well, UBports also involves building it by yourself
[10:02] <krowv> I’m all about building things myself to learn…   I did just build AOSP from source and install on a Nexus 4.  I’ve also installed Ubuntu Phone on my Nexus 4 as well.  now I’m trying to build it from source.
[10:02] <krowv> and now I just learned about UBports, so checking that out.
[10:02] <TheKit> Nexus 4 is fine from AOSP, as it's supported
[10:04] <krowv> So what is the relationship between the UBPorts project and Ubuntu Phone itself?
[10:05] <TheKit> UBPorts is based on Ubuntu Phone, but they ported changes from Ubuntu's AOSP tree onto CM12 tree
[10:06] <krowv> So its an independent group but working somewhat in parallel.
[10:06] <krowv> sounds simmilar to the CM <—> AOSP relationship itself
[10:10] <applemuncy> Hi, I'm also in the just starting to build ubports. Every choice is falling over with different compile errors.
[10:28] <Tims_Tech> so ubports
[10:28] <Tims_Tech> are a dev team
[10:28] <Tims_Tech> :P
[10:29] <applemuncy> It seems a one man team  : )  mariogrip
[10:29] <Tims_Tech> hmm
[10:30] <Tims_Tech> he is pretty good with developing
[10:30] <Tims_Tech> so I want to join :P
[10:30] <Tims_Tech> :P
[10:30] <applemuncy> And he must be busy doing other things.
[10:30] <Tims_Tech> :P
[10:30] <Tims_Tech> why? applemuncy
[10:30] <applemuncy> Why?
[10:31] <Tims_Tech>  applemuncy> And he must be busy doing other things.
[10:31] <Tims_Tech> why?
[10:31] <Tims_Tech> or what do you mean?
[10:32] <applemuncy> I mean, he hasn't been active on ubports a few months now.
[10:32] <Tims_Tech> hmm
[10:33] <applemuncy> I've only been looking into ubports myself a few weeks.
[10:33] <Tims_Tech> hmm
[10:34] <Tims_Tech> I would love to join and learn from his dev skills
[10:34] <applemuncy> So it seems ubports is running on autopilot : )
[10:35] <applemuncy> Yes, he seems very good.
[10:35] <Tims_Tech> I will mail him and ask if he wants to idk join my irc channel .
[10:37] <krowv> So what all is involved porting to new hardware?  I’m asking because I’m trying to eventually make Ubuntu Phone work on a Samsung Galaxy S4.
[10:38] <krowv> It seems like I can build AOSP for it, then loading ubuntu phone shouldn
[10:38] <krowv> t  be that hard.
[10:38] <Tims_Tech> but
[10:38] <krowv> Am I missing something huge?
[10:38] <Tims_Tech> you need a device tree
[10:38] <Tims_Tech> stock
[10:38] <Tims_Tech> :P
[10:38] <Tims_Tech> and I have NO IDEA how to create one
[10:39] <Tims_Tech> krowv, can you help me>?
[10:40] <krowv> Not sure what you mean by device tree.
[10:41] <applemuncy> I'm also getting the message "Trying dependencies-only mode on a non-existing device tree?"
[10:44] <Tims_Tech> applemuncy, that is not a problem
[10:44] <Tims_Tech> it says it all the time
[10:45] <applemuncy> Thanks, good to know.
[10:45] <Tims_Tech> applemuncy, np
[10:45] <Tims_Tech> :P
[10:53] <applemuncy> When I try to build aosp_shamu-eng, lunch creates a local_manifests directory with roomservice.xml
[10:56] <applemuncy> Oops, lost Tim.
[10:57] <TheKit> krowv, basically you need to build patched Android base (AOSP or CM, whatever) which is going to be run inside LXC container
[10:57] <TheKit> and then make sure different components of Ubuntu run (for example, Mir is pretty troublesome on new devices)
[12:10] <tims_techlaptop> DAMNIT
[12:10] <tims_techlaptop> ubuntu touch is based of android 5.0 :(
[12:10] <TheKit> no
[12:11] <TheKit> there are 4.4, 5.1 and 6.0 trees
[12:23] <tims_techlaptop> TheKit, srsly?
[12:23] <tims_techlaptop> COOL
[12:23] <tims_techlaptop> :D
[12:23] <tims_techlaptop> TheKit, but how to create ubuntu touch from cm11 sources then?
[12:53] <tims_techlaptop> ow nvm
[12:53] <tims_techlaptop> I can create AOSP with cm11 sources
[12:53] <tims_techlaptop> will try
[12:53] <tims_techlaptop> and then
[12:53] <tims_techlaptop> I CAN do that
[13:45] <TheKit> tims_techlaptop, you can't
[13:45] <TheKit> but you can port patches from Ubuntu AOSP tree onto CM11 tree if you really want
[13:46] <tims_techlaptop> TheKit, ?
 I can create AOSP with cm11 sources
[13:47] <tims_techlaptop> yep
[13:47] <tims_techlaptop> I need to recreate the device tree
[13:47] <tims_techlaptop> but
[13:47] <tims_techlaptop> I can use most of it
[13:50] <applemuncy> Speaking of lunch, I wonder if I did the right thing?
[13:51] <applemuncy> I fallowed the install instructions on ubuntu touch.
[13:51] <applemuncy> then after running . build/envsetup.sh
[13:52] <applemuncy> I went to run lunch, but it wasn't installed.
[13:53] <applemuncy> So did an apt-get to install lunch.  Was that the right thing to do?
[14:03] <tims_techlaptop> hmm applemuncy
[14:03] <tims_techlaptop> depends
[14:06] <applemuncy> So I'm reading though envsetup.sh
[14:07] <applemuncy> Does it provide the lunch normally?
[14:07] <tims_techlaptop> yes
[14:07] <tims_techlaptop> normally
[14:07] <tims_techlaptop> which linux distro are you on?
[14:07] <applemuncy> Ahhh
[14:07] <applemuncy> Ubuntu 16.04
[14:08] <tims_techlaptop> me too :D
[14:08] <tims_techlaptop> it should just work
[14:09] <applemuncy> I often have multiple xterms open. Maybe I tried to run lunch in one I had not run envsetup.sh in.
[14:10] <tims_techlaptop> applemuncy, yes
[14:10] <applemuncy> I see that envsetup.sh is very powerful.
[14:11] <tims_techlaptop> yepppppp
[14:11] <applemuncy> Does things I did not expect.
[14:11] <tims_techlaptop> applemuncy, ur learning fast
[14:12] <applemuncy> Nope, I'm digging on Linux 20 years now. Still don't know it all  : )
[14:12] <applemuncy> So not a fast learner.
[14:12] <tims_techlaptop> applemuncy, I am 14 :P
[14:12] <tims_techlaptop> I am the new gen
[14:12] <tims_techlaptop> lol
[14:13] <applemuncy> I been meeting some amazing teenagers in my local makerspace.
[14:15] <applemuncy> Glad to meet you Tim  : )
[14:15] <tims_techlaptop> np :P
[14:15] <tims_techlaptop> I mean
[14:15] <tims_techlaptop> oops
[14:15] <tims_techlaptop> glad to meet you too applemuncy
[14:16] <tims_techlaptop> :P
[14:16] <tims_techlaptop> applemuncy, I live i nthe Netherlands, you>
[14:16] <tims_techlaptop> ?
[14:16] <tims_techlaptop> in**
[14:17] <applemuncy> Indiana, USA
[14:17] <tims_techlaptop> :P
[14:17] <tims_techlaptop> how old are you?
[14:17] <applemuncy> 68  : )
[14:17] <tims_techlaptop> :D
[14:18] <tims_techlaptop> applemuncy, are you male or female?
[14:18] <applemuncy> I'm a guy
[14:18] <tims_techlaptop> me too
[14:18] <tims_techlaptop> :P
[14:18] <applemuncy> Male, that is.
[14:18] <tims_techlaptop> yep
[14:18] <tims_techlaptop> I am the new generation
[14:18] <tims_techlaptop> I learn fast
[14:18] <tims_techlaptop> lol
[14:18] <tims_techlaptop> :P
[14:18] <tims_techlaptop> ;)
[14:19] <applemuncy> Yes, indeed.
[14:19] <tims_techlaptop> I started with creating roms 3 weeks back
[14:19] <tims_techlaptop> :P
[14:19] <tims_techlaptop> I am fast
[14:19] <tims_techlaptop> :P
[14:19] <applemuncy> Early access to the Internet makes a big difference.
[14:19] <tims_techlaptop> yep
[14:19] <tims_techlaptop> :P
[14:22] <applemuncy> Sad to need to do real life now.  I'm be back!
[14:22] <tims_techlaptop> bye :P
[16:31] <ahoneybun_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdfDRqRi_eI&index=27&list=PL02HDVnTgIcpnnRo8PRZDJnxILA2IHIpI
[16:32] <ahoneybun_> Win 10 Phone to Desktop
[16:35] <Tims_Tech> that is old news ahoneybun_ :)
[16:35] <ahoneybun_> this video is new
[16:35] <ahoneybun_> so they do a few things that Ubuntu did first
[22:46] <krowv> I’m using Ubuntu 16.04.  For building from source can I use the version of phablet that comes with 16.04?  Or do I need to add the phablet-tools PPA?