[03:09] <claycorn> hello all
[03:09] <claycorn> kde 5 a joke?
 Plasma 5?
[03:11] <claycorn> i mrunning kde 4
[03:11] <claycorn> ans its very good
[03:11] <claycorn> and
[03:11] <claycorn> >
[04:08] <user|62514> Why "Desktop Settings" window is not placed in "System Settings" isn't that the most intuitive place?
[04:16] <user|62514> Are there any one can answer this please?
[04:16] <user|62514> .
[04:16] <user|62514> .
[04:16] <user|62514> .
[04:16] <user|62514> Am I alone?
[04:16] <user|62514> :D
[04:22] <claydoh> shouldn't desktop settings be......on the desktop?
[05:38] <oem> !list
[05:52] <acheronuk> claydoh: well, yes. logical place to find desktop settings is in the desktop action menu. you can argue the settings such as wallpaper, layout type should also show in the desktop KCM in systemsettings though, or in their own one
[09:11] <user|78991> hello
[09:11] <user|78991> doeas anyone know how we can make a bootable kubuntu usb?
[09:15] <fml> what?
[09:25] <neo__> buongiorno
[10:17] <mparillo> If you write the ISO to the USB using dd, it is always bootable for me.
[11:42] <BluesKaj_> Hi folks
[11:56] <ilhami> hi
[12:29] <SgtStroopwafel> hi
[15:42] <user|16301> hey there
[15:43] <user|16301> i need to know if my downloaded iso is genuine
[15:44] <user|16301> anyone there
[15:45] <Dragnslcr> user|16301- you should verify the checksum
[15:46] <Dragnslcr> http://www.kubuntu.org/alternative-downloads has the sha256 sums
[15:50] <user|16301> many thanks
[15:51] <user|16301> was this only to check if i downloaded it completely or checking its authenticity
[15:53] <Dragnslcr> It checks that your iso is an accurate copy
[15:55] <Dragnslcr> If you're looking for a PGP signature, I think they only create one for the checksums file
[15:55] <Dragnslcr> You can find all of the files at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/16.04.1/release/
[15:56] <user|16301> im a beginner using kubuntu
[15:56] <user|16301> my current os is win 7
[15:58] <Dragnslcr> Unless you're really paranoid, I wouldn't worry about PGP signatures
[15:59] <Smurphy> But you should worry about these. They confirm that the package came from a known source!
[15:59] <user|16301> no im not
[15:59] <user|16301> i follow the instruction on how to install kubuntu
[16:00] <Dragnslcr> From what I can tell, Windows has a built-in program called CertUtil that can do the sha256 checksum of a file
[16:01] <user|16301> and it is said that i have to checked it first
[16:01] <Dragnslcr> You should use that to check that the download didn't get corrupted
[16:04] <Smurphy> The package managers on the linux Distributions have that feature built-in. In conjunction with the package signature, you can be sure they come from a trusted location.
[16:08] <user|16301> i downloaded it in here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/16.04/release/kubuntu-16.04-desktop-i386.iso?
[16:10] <evilcode> good evning for all
[16:22] <Dragnslcr> user|16301- probably better off using a 16.04.1 image, since it will have more recent updates. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/16.04.1/release/
[16:23] <Dragnslcr> And you almost definitely want the amd64 version
[16:28] <user|16301> thanks Dragnslcr
[16:28] <user|16301> Dragnslcr
[16:28] <user|16301> Dragnslcr
[16:28] <user|16301> Dragnslcr
[16:28] <user|16301> Dragnslcr
[16:28] <user|16301> Dragnslcr
[16:37] <CRogers> Hello everyone. :)
[16:37] <CRogers> I noticed the Kubuntu logo has changed.
[16:38] <CRogers> The one currently used seems to have some geometrical problems.
[16:39] <CRogers> I've taken some time to reconstruct it so that it looks cleaner when large.
[16:39] <CRogers> Would anyone like a copy of it?
[16:40] <CRogers> It's vector svg format done in inkscape.
[16:42] <soee_> CRogers: join #kubuntu-devel and ask there
[16:42] <CRogers> Ah, good point.
[16:42] <CRogers> thanks.
[16:43] <rodolfojcj> CRogers: give a link to see your improvements
[16:43] <CRogers> Sure. It's here: http://whitecatgraphics.com/opendesignstudio/free_graphics/kubuntu/kubuntu_gear_logo_fix.svg
[16:45] <CRogers> From a distance, it's indistinguishable from the one currently used.
[16:46] <CRogers> However, when zoomed, here's a comparison:
[16:46] <rodolfojcj> I'm comparing it with https://share.kde.org/index.php/s/SIWf0sCpDIpQt1K/download?path=%2F&files=Kubuntu_logo.svg
[16:46] <CRogers> http://linux.about.com/od/kubuntu_doc/a/kubudg13t01.htm
[16:47] <CRogers> Yea, zoom in to see the difference.
[16:48] <CRogers> (browser zoon)
[16:48] <CRogers> (ctrl+mousewheel)
[16:48] <rodolfojcj> I'm seeing. I'm not sure if the original logo has problems or if it has "features", but the original one has some curvy segments, while your proposal has straight segments
[16:49] <CRogers> Yes. This kind of distortion is usually the result of vector-tracing a low-res copy of a raster version of the logo.
[16:49] <rodolfojcj> I mean, I'm not sure if the original logo has those cury segments by design, or if quite contrary, that is some kind of bug
[16:50] <CRogers> From experience, it was probably done with trace-bitmap in Inkscape.
[16:50] <rodolfojcj> ok
[16:50] <CRogers> A very useful tool, however it only works well on high-res bitmaps.
[16:51] <rodolfojcj> by the way, besides Inkscape, what other software tools do you use for your artwork design?
[17:23] <CRogers> rodolfojcj, Asside from Inkscape, I use Krita, GIMP, Blender, Scribus, Imagemagick (especially mogrify), G'MIC, Atom Editor, GNOME, Viewnior, Natron, Font Forge, Ubuntu... and there's probably more, but that's most of the main ones.
[17:24] <CRogers> I'm a commercial designer for work, so all these tools are a definite +
[17:25] <CRogers> Allows me to work as I like, in a customisable environment of my choice, which is currently Linux.
[17:25] <acheronuk> CRogers: impressive :)
[17:25] <CRogers> Thanks. :)
[17:26] <CRogers> I think the open source toolset is the impressive thing, though.
[17:27] <CRogers> I envy the kids nowadays who will grow up with free tools like Blender, GIMP, Inkscape, etc.
[17:27] <CRogers> I started out with ascii art. lol
[17:28] <CRogers> Which is about all my first computer could handle.
[17:36] <rodolfojcj> CRogers: very informative, thanks!
[17:36] <rodolfojcj> some months ago I saw a video about Krita and it seemed to me as a powerful tool. I have not used it, though
[17:38] <CRogers> Sure. :)
[17:38] <CRogers> And yes, Krita is astoundingly powerful.
[17:38] <CRogers> In some respects more than GIMP.
[17:39] <CRogers> They already have HDR painting, for example.
[17:39] <CRogers> The latest version has a colorspace browser.
[17:40] <CRogers> = better than *anything* else out threre that I've seen.
[17:40] <rodolfojcj> is Krita more comarable with Gimp or with Inkscape?
[17:40] <rodolfojcj> * comparable
[17:42] <CRogers> GIMP, currently, though it has more vector support than GIMP does.
[17:42] <CRogers> GIMP is still my go-to program for photo work.
[17:43] <CRogers> However, when I'm drawing, or making tiling backgrounds, Krita is the way to go.
[17:43] <CRogers> They just added animation capabilities to it too.
[17:43] <rodolfojcj> ok
[17:43] <CRogers> https://krita.org/en/krita-3-0-release-notes/
[17:44] <rodolfojcj> do you use some kind of drawing tablet?
[17:44] <CRogers> My laptop is a Lenovo X220 T
[17:44] <CRogers> it's a tablet hybrid.
[17:44] <rodolfojcj> if I remember, wacom is a famous brand for the drawing devices I'm thinking about
[17:44] <CRogers> Has a wacom tablet built into the screen.
[17:44] <rodolfojcj> ummm
[17:45] <rodolfojcj> interesting
[17:45] <CRogers> So does my phone. :)
[17:45] <CRogers> Samsung Note 4
[17:45] <CRogers> in fact, you can use the same pen.
[17:45] <rodolfojcj> didn't know about that in phones!
[17:45] <CRogers> Only Samsung so far.
[17:46] <CRogers> Actually, having the capability on my phone got me back into drawing.
[17:46] <CRogers> and digital painting.
[17:46]  * CRogers digs for a copy of the latest.
[17:46] <rodolfojcj> and what about the support and usability of wacom devices in Linux/Ubuntu ?
[17:46] <rodolfojcj> and Kubuntu?
[17:47] <CRogers> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ajm5qy4tuo9zr3o/shelley_5x7_300dpi.png?dl=0
[17:47] <CRogers> That's the last thing I drew entirely on my phone.
[17:48] <CRogers> rodolfojcj, all 'buntus I've seen support it out of the box.
[17:48] <CRogers> no drivers to install.
[17:48] <rodolfojcj> ok
[17:48] <CRogers> Touch screen works well too.
[17:49] <CRogers> multitouch even.
[17:55] <rodolfojcj> did you draw that dog's portrait by hand?
[17:57] <CRogers> Yep. In an application called cloverpaint on Android Linux.
[17:57] <rodolfojcj> amazing!
[17:58] <rodolfojcj> how long did it take to finish it? From start to finish, I mean
[17:59] <CRogers> Not sure. I did it in small 15-30 minute intervals while in transit to and from work.
[17:59] <CRogers> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBQJaAYyogQ
[17:59] <CRogers> this is a few years old, but it's a good example of cloverpaint.
[18:00] <CRogers> Did that one on a Note 2
[18:02] <rodolfojcj> ok. Didn't know about cloverpaint
[18:02] <CRogers> I'd estimate it took about 20 ish hours. It's mostly from memory.
[18:02] <rodolfojcj> ok
[18:02] <CRogers> It's my mother's dog. Memorial picture.
[18:03] <CRogers> She never took any pictures of her. :P
[18:03] <rodolfojcj> it resembles a real photo
[18:03] <CRogers> Thanks.
[18:03] <rodolfojcj> it's lunch time for me. Thanks CRogers for sharing your tips and blessings for your gifts and skills
[18:03] <CRogers> rodolfojcj, happy to share. Have a good lunch.
[18:03] <rodolfojcj> thanks!
[18:03] <CRogers> :)
[20:25] <r4m80> hi