[10:52] <tbnbuddha> hi. is there an easy solution to use the windows key to open the bottom left menu?
[13:35] <poopBot> wtf is this alternate download whats difrence vs normal
[14:02] <leszek> poopBot: alternative iso you mean ? Usually it comes without a live session just a text based debian installer
[14:16] <poopBot> oh
[14:16] <poopBot> i want live installer
[14:16] <poopBot> xD
[15:32] <Frankxjr83> hi all
[15:33] <Frankxjr83> tatally newbie here
[15:33] <Frankxjr83> totally
[18:32] <Guest95053> Just installed Lubuntu (in place of Mint XFCE) last weekend.  Strange thing...I have two monitors and the POST, Lubuntu splash, etc., display on both monitors, but as soon as Login screen appears, second monitor turns off.
[18:33] <lynorian> guest is this a desktop where it is permanantly setup that way?
[18:33] <Guest95053> yes, it is
[18:34] <Guest95053> xrand on shows one (default) monitor
[18:34] <lynorian> well you can monitor settings from the prefrences menu and then save your settings
[18:34] <lynorian> lxrandr is a nicer frontend
[18:34] <Guest95053> OK, but still there is only the one default monitor shown there.
[18:34] <Guest95053> Can't seem to find a way to utilize both monitors after login.
[18:36] <Guest95053> BTW, I'm using a Nvidia FX-5200 AGP card.  Thus my reasons for installing 14.04
[18:36] <lynorian> Guest95053, with what driver
[18:37] <lynorian> I am pretty sure FX-5200 would not have nvidia drivers anymore but noveau should work or is there a regression I do not know about
[18:37] <Guest95053> I have not tested with default driver, only with 173.xx Nvidia driver.  Maybe I need to try default.
[18:39] <Guest95053> "noveau" is what I was calling default.  I'll give it a try, but nvidia drivers are still in the older kernel that 14.04 uses, just not in 16.04.
[18:40] <wxl> Guest95053: you should grep around in /var/log/{dmesg,syslog,Xorg.*.log} and look for any errors
[18:45] <lynorian> Guest95053, I think I had a pci version of your card and noveau works with it but that is not the case with something much newer like say a gtx 960 where there might be a really big performance difference and firmware barriers for noveau developers
[19:47] <LuMint> lynorian: fx 5200 should have nvidia-173 drivers.
[19:49] <LuMint> lynorian: nouveau works terribly with it. Regular crashes, no video playback.
[20:40] <Argh_> Hello, I am getting an error when attempting to play MP3's.  states error opening file and says no such file or directory but when it is plugged into a windows machine it works fine in winamp.  Using audacious music player
[20:41] <wxl> Argh_: so this is a USB? did you mount it?
[20:42] <Argh_> I am presuming it is mounted because I can see the songs etc on it.
[20:42] <Argh_> and it shows on the desktop
[20:42] <Argh_> it is usb
[20:42] <Argh_> I also copied it to a hard drive
[20:43] <wxl> and so you can navigate with audacious to the location on the usb?
[20:43] <Argh_> yes
[20:43] <wxl> sounds mounted to me
[20:43] <Argh_> :)
[20:43] <wxl> have you tried running it a terminal?
[20:44] <wxl> like `audacious /path/to/location`
[20:45] <Argh_> not sure how to find out the location to be able to put it in terminal
[20:45] <wxl> could probably copy paste from pcmanfm to lxterminal
[20:46] <Argh_> file:///media/metal/930c1555-4032-48f5-99c8-ed6262f01a7f/%5CUsers%5CGAMER%5CDesktop%5CCollection%20Music%5CMusic%20FIles%5CAsia%20-%20Heat%20Of%20The%20Moment.mp3
[20:46] <Argh_> is that the path?
[20:46] <wxl> something seems strange there
[20:46] <Argh_> new to linux so.. what can I say LOL
[20:47] <wxl> the backslashes are probably not helping
[20:47] <Argh_> I copied that out of audacious list that shows the songs
[20:47] <wxl> in most linux shells \ is an escape character
[20:47] <Argh_> what about / slashes
[20:48] <wxl> not escape characters, but they are supposed to indicate a change in folder
[20:48] <wxl> i'd just change them to underscores. can't go wrong. or just rename that whole big blob to something.mp3
[20:48] <Argh_> oh man.  wonder if I will need ot do that to all files
[20:49] <wxl> probably wise
[20:49] <Argh_> there are over 1000 songs
[20:50] <wxl> https://scottlinux.com/2011/04/24/batch-rename-files-with-rename/
[20:50] <wxl> easy in linux world
[20:50] <Argh_> one of the problems I am having is if I double click on the file it automatically opens audacous
[20:50] <Argh_> oh love typos
[20:50] <wxl> that's what it's supposed to do
[20:51] <Argh_> well I wanted to edit just one to see if that is the issue.
[20:55] <Argh_> $ rename 'y/ /_/' * is to replace the spaces with underscores so would I use $ rename 'y///_/'* ?
[20:58] <Argh_> The next question would be how do I only do it to the mp3 file?
[20:59] <Argh_> not sure if it helps but the song I posted is Heat of the Moment by Asia
[20:59] <wxl> oh yeah i can see that
[20:59] <wxl> but that's not the filename
[21:00] <Argh_> oh.  I guess I am confused then hehe
[21:00] <Argh_> so what I showed you is just the location correct?
[21:00] <wxl> \Users\GAMER\Desktop\Collection Music\Music FIles\Asia - Heat Of The Moment.mp3
[21:01] <wxl> THAT is the filename
[21:01] <wxl> not the location
[21:01] <wxl> the problem is those backslashes
[21:01] <Argh_> did you see the rename command I posted?  Will that work?
[21:02] <Argh_> oh wait.  the link I read showed how to rename it.
[21:02] <wxl> you want to do `rename 's/\\/_/' /path/to/file`
[21:02] <wxl> remember \ is an escape character
[21:02] <Argh_> not sure what you mean by escape character
[21:02] <wxl> so in order to use an UNescaped \ you need to escape it \\
[21:03] <wxl> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escape_character
[21:03] <wxl> windows has them too as you can see
[21:05] <Argh_> ok so this just stays read this don't do anything with it because if it isn't escaped it will use it as a command?
[21:05] <Argh_> *says read this
[21:05] <wxl> you in the terminal?
[21:06] <Argh_> I am
[21:06] <wxl> type this:
[21:06] <wxl> echo \/
[21:07] <wxl> what does it give you back? \/ or something else?
[21:07] <Argh_>  /
[21:07] <wxl> right
[21:07] <wxl> now try:
[21:07] <wxl> echo \\/
[21:08] <Argh_> ok I get \/
[21:08] <Argh_> ah so echo means to show?
[21:08] <Argh_> with the /
[21:08] <wxl> that's because instead of trying to escape the next character, the \ is escaped, i.e. it prints the actual \
[21:08] <Argh_> oh sorry \
[21:08] <wxl> echo can be useful for such things
[21:08] <Argh_> ok
[21:08] <wxl> for example you can show the value of variables
[21:09] <wxl> echo $SHELL
[21:09] <wxl> for example
[21:09] <wxl> there's other magic it can do
[21:09] <Argh_> I get /bin/bash
[21:09] <wxl> yup, which is everyone's DEFAULT shell
[21:09] <Argh_> OH ok
[21:09] <wxl> so now you know a little more :)
[21:09] <Argh_> I do :)
[21:09] <Argh_> lovin it!
[21:10] <wxl> SO, to rename your file: you want to do `rename 's/\\/_/' /path/to/file`
[21:10] <Argh_> so how do I find the path to the file?
[21:10] <Argh_> because what you showed me before was just the name
[21:11] <wxl> yep you kind of already did this
[21:11] <wxl> let's start by going to the folder that contains the file
[21:11] <wxl> do:
[21:11] <wxl> cd /media/metal/930c1555-4032-48f5-99c8-ed6262f01a7f
[21:11] <wxl> now if you want to see a list of all the files in that folder, do:
[21:11] <wxl> ls
[21:11] <Argh_> cd for change directory
[21:11] <wxl> yup :)
[21:11] <Argh_> ls means list?
[21:12] <wxl> more or less yes
[21:12] <Argh_> so there are three colors, white blue and red
[21:13] <Argh_> red look to be zip files
[21:13] <wxl> yep
[21:13] <wxl> blue is folders
[21:13] <wxl> white is files
[21:13] <wxl> there's also tab completition available
[21:13] <wxl> so if you do:
[21:13] <wxl> rename 's/\\/_/' \\Users
[21:13] <wxl> and then hit TAB
[21:14] <wxl> it should either fill in the rest
[21:14] <wxl> OR
[21:14] <wxl> if it does nothing, it measns there are multiple matches
[21:14] <wxl> if you hit TAB again it will show them all
[21:14] <wxl> you can also use asterisks as wildcards
[21:15] <wxl> you can also use quotes to get rid of having to deal with escapes
[21:15] <wxl> so you could do:
[21:15] <Argh_> it didn't do anything
[21:15] <wxl> rename 's/\\/_/' *"Asia - Heat Of The Moment.mp3"
[21:15] <Argh_> this is cool btw I am loving it
[21:15] <wxl> :)
[21:16] <wxl> you might like linuxpadawan.net, as an aside. free linux mentoring
[21:16] <Argh_> hitting tab didn't change anything from what I can see
[21:16] <wxl> you can CTRL-C to get out of a command you're working on
[21:16] <Argh_> copied pasted and bookmarked :)
[21:17] <Argh_> ok so I did a ctrl c
[21:17] <Argh_> now I copied and pasted the command you gave me but it didn't seem to do anything
[21:17] <Argh_> with the tab anyway
[21:17] <wxl> it should return nothing if it worked
[21:17] <Argh_> oh
[21:18] <Argh_> how do i find out if it worked?  just open the file again?
[21:18] <wxl> you can ls
[21:28] <was_Argh> not sure what happened, wasn't able to type anything
[21:29] <was_Argh> I noticed that the folder used to be called "all MP3's"  now it is showing up as a file called "all.m3u8"
[21:30] <was_Argh> did I loose you wxl?
[21:35] <tsimonq2> was_Argh: he's at work and sometimes gets called off
[21:36] <tsimonq2> was_Argh: if you stick around, he'll be back soon ;)
[21:37] <was_Argh> ok thank you :)
[21:49] <wxl> was_Argh: ok, i'm going to teach you some magic. first install pastebinit by doing `sudo apt -y install pastebinit` and enter your password when asked
[21:50] <was_Argh> OK installing :)
[21:50] <was_Argh> ok done
[21:51] <wxl> cd back to where you were when you did the rename, if you happened to move around
[21:51] <wxl> oh and one more package just to make things really fun
[21:51] <wxl> `sudo apt -y install xclip`
[21:52] <was_Argh> ok done
[21:52] <was_Argh> what is CTCP VERSION?
[21:52] <wxl> that was me checking what irc client you were using
[21:52] <was_Argh> ah ok
[21:52] <wxl> because if you have the right one, i can make this magic even more magic :)
[21:53] <was_Argh> schweet!
[21:53] <wxl> but here's what we're going to do, all in one line:
[21:53] <was_Argh> ok both isntalled
[21:53] <wxl> 1. get a recursive directory listing
[21:53] <was_Argh> *installed
[21:53] <wxl> 2. submit the directory listing to paste.ubuntu.com
[21:53] <was_Argh> what is that?
[21:53] <wxl> 3. copy the URL to the clipboard
[21:53] <wxl> and then you can just paste it here
[21:53] <wxl> then i'll be able to see what you see
[21:53] <was_Argh> ok
[21:53] <was_Argh> how do I get a recursive directlry?
[21:53] <wxl> the directory listing is what you get from `ls`
[21:54] <was_Argh> good lord typo heaven
[21:54] <wxl> recursive means it will drill down into all the folders
[21:54] <wxl> we're going to use a magic linux thing called pipes
[21:54] <wxl> a pipe takes the output of the previous command gives it to the next one
[21:54] <wxl> so:
[21:54] <wxl> ls -alR * | pastebinit | xclip
[21:55] <wxl> then you should just be able to come back to irc and hit SHIFT-INSERT to paste it
[21:56] <was_Argh> ok ls: cannot open irectory 'lost+found' permission denied
[21:56] <wxl> what does `pwd` return?
[21:57] <was_Argh> file:///media/metal/930c1555-4032-48f5-99c8-ed6262f01a7f/%5CUsers%5CGAMER%5CDesktop%5CCollection%20Music%5CMusic%20FIles%5CBlondie%20-%20Call%20Me%281%29.mp3
[21:57] <was_Argh> um.  that isn't right LOL
[21:57] <wxl> cd /media/metal/930c1555-4032-48f5-99c8-ed6262f01a7f
[21:57] <wxl> then do the thole thing again
[21:57] <wxl> if there's a lost+found in there, that's just annoying
[21:58] <was_Argh> ok what I copied showed up when I hit pwd
[21:59] <wxl> you mean the permission denied?
[21:59] <wxl> or you mean /media/metal/930c1555-4032-48f5-99c8-ed6262f01a7f ?
[21:59] <was_Argh> ya it does have the lost+found
[22:00] <was_Argh> yes
[22:00] <wxl> which yes? :)
[22:00] <was_Argh> LOL sorry, good point
[22:00] <was_Argh> ok when I did pwd it showed  /media/metal/930c1555-4032-48f5-99c8-ed6262f01a7f
[22:00] <wxl> ok so that's good
[22:01] <wxl> sooo let's do this differently then
[22:01] <was_Argh> ok
[22:02] <wxl> ok i think this will work
[22:03] <wxl> find . -not -name "lost+found" | pastebinit | xclip
[22:03] <was_Argh> permission denied
[22:03] <wxl> did it leave you anything on the clipboard though?
[22:03] <wxl> try shift-insert
[22:03] <was_Argh> find . -not -name "lost+found" | pastebinit | xclip
[22:04] <wxl> baaaah
[22:04] <was_Argh> lol
[22:04] <wxl> oh hell let's just at least get the basic listing
[22:04] <wxl> ls -al | pastebinit | xclip
[22:04] <was_Argh> ok
[22:04] <wxl> i KNOW that will work
[22:05] <was_Argh> so you want me to shift  insert here right?
[22:05] <wxl> yup
[22:05] <was_Argh> ls -al | pastebinit | xclip
[22:05] <wxl> >:(
[22:05] <was_Argh> do I need to activate or start those programs I installed?
[22:06] <wxl> no
[22:06] <wxl> well enough of my dumb magic i guess
[22:06] <wxl> just do ls -al | pastebinit and copy and paste the url here :)
[22:06] <wxl> oh
[22:06] <wxl> hahah
[22:06] <wxl> i forgot
[22:07] <wxl> ls -al | pastebinit | xclip -selection clipboard
[22:07] <was_Argh> ?
[22:07] <wxl> THAT will do it
[22:07] <was_Argh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23305242/
[22:07] <was_Argh> HAH!
[22:07] <wxl> don't make yourself crazy but there are three clipboards in linux
[22:08] <was_Argh> REALLY?
[22:08] <was_Argh> thats cool
[22:08] <wxl> heh yup
[22:08] <wxl> ok if you look at that URL you'll notice all the lines that start with "d" are directories
[22:08] <was_Argh> ok
[22:09] <wxl> it looks like "all.m3u8" always has been a file, so I don't think that's your directory
[22:09] <wxl> i think it's actually the line right above it: "All College"
[22:09] <was_Argh> it used to be a folder called all mp3's
[22:10] <was_Argh> 74 is pictures of my 74 plymouth :)
[22:10] <wxl> heheheh
[22:10] <wxl> well
[22:10] <wxl> you could search for such a folder
[22:10] <was_Argh> how?
[22:12] <wxl> find . -type d -iname "all mp3*"
[22:13] <wxl> that looks only for directories (-type d) and does a case insensitive (thus -iname rather than -name) search
[22:13] <wxl> . refers to your current directory, i.e. $PWD (the `pwd` command will give you that too)
[22:14] <was_Argh> in terminal?
[22:14] <wxl> yup
[22:15] <was_Argh> what is up with the permission denied?
[22:15] <wxl> that's probably just complaining about lost+found, no?
[22:15] <was_Argh> ya
[22:15] <wxl> yeha don't worry about that
[22:15] <was_Argh> I just opened another terminal and did it but it didn't show anything
[22:15] <wxl> that means it didn't find it
[22:15] <was_Argh> ok
[22:16] <wxl> why don't you `cd "All College"` (or `cd All\ College`) and `ls` in there if you see if you see your files
[22:16] <wxl> i could also see "100ANDRO" potentially being the place, too
[22:17] <wxl> (it might contain the all mp3's folder)
[22:17] <was_Argh> from terminal it is showing my college transcripts etc
[22:18] <wxl> ok so cd back with either `cd -` (which will take you to the last folder you were in) or `cd ..` which will take you up one folder in the hierarchy
[22:18] <wxl> then you can try 100ANDRO
[22:18] <was_Argh> wont' let me into 100ANDRO
[22:19] <wxl> drwx------   3 metal metal    4096 Oct  9 20:23 100ANDRO
[22:19] <was_Argh> oh didn't see the last directions
[22:19] <wxl>  ^^^ this means that the owner can read, write, and execute the directory
[22:19] <wxl> drwx------   3 metal metal    4096 Oct  9 20:23 100ANDRO
[22:20] <wxl>                ^^^^^ ^^^^^^ this tells who the owner and their group is
[22:20] <wxl> i.e. you should have every ability to get into it :)
[22:20] <was_Argh> ah ok
[22:20] <wxl> unless you're not "metal" (`whoami` will let you know)
[22:20] <was_Argh> I don't see the "3" though  must the metal@metal
[22:21] <wxl> you can see the three here http://paste.ubuntu.com/23305242/
[22:21] <wxl> the three is the number of links
[22:22] <was_Argh> and that is just the list for my brothers sportster I am working on and my nook books I can't get into lol
[22:22] <was_Argh> number of links?
[22:22] <wxl> that's a longer more arcane subject. read more here if you want: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/103114/what-do-the-fields-in-ls-al-output-mean#103118
[22:22] <wxl> anywho
[22:23] <was_Argh> hehe
[22:23] <wxl> so 100ANDRO doesn't have your mp3s
[22:23] <was_Argh> nope
[22:23] <wxl> and frankly i don't even see the mp3 you originally came in here talking about
[22:24] <was_Argh> when I click on theall.m3u8 file it shows all the mp3's I had on the hard drive.  its a laptop hard drive in an external case
[22:24] <was_Argh> I wonder if windows nuked it.
[22:26] <wxl> that m3u8 is probably a playlist
[22:26] <was_Argh> oh man...
[22:26] <was_Argh> that would make sense.  guess I will need to reburn all the cd's/music I have.  argh
[22:27] <wxl> ouch
[22:27] <wxl> brb
[22:27] <was_Argh> ya.. sniff sniff.  k
[22:35] <wxl> back
[22:35] <wxl> did your windows drive die, was_Argh ?
[22:35] <wxl> you could also look to see if there are any mp3s left with `find . -type f -iname "*.mp3"` (f for file btw)
[22:37] <was_Argh> no I just used it as a backup
[22:37] <wxl> it's maybe possible it's still around
[22:37] <wxl> ? or did you overwrite the drive?
[22:39] <was_Argh> don't think I overwrote the drive.  It did find mp3's but they were ringtones LOL