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| hikiko | .hi | 04:54 |
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| duflu | hikiko: 'lo | 05:23 |
| hikiko | hi duflu :) happy monday! | 05:27 |
| duflu | hikiko: Happy Monday. Anything to raise the collective tone following that presidential debate | 05:28 |
| hikiko | hahahaha | 05:29 |
| pitti | Good morning | 05:47 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers! | 07:30 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 ! | 07:30 |
| seb128 | salut pitti, comment ça va ici ? | 07:31 |
| pitti | as-tu eu un bon week-end ? | 07:31 |
| pitti | seb128: ça va bien ! le temps était horrible, mais on a joué au badminton la première fois cette saison :) | 07:32 |
| pitti | et ma rhûme est mieux | 07:32 |
| seb128 | oui, de bonne vacances, le vol de retour était hier donc dimanche c'était voyage et rangement des valises | 07:32 |
| seb128 | le début des activités d'après été ! | 07:32 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, tu as perdu les valises ? | 07:33 |
| pitti | seb128: oui, pas plus de travail dans le jardin :) | 07:33 |
| seb128 | non, mais elles étaient pleines de choses à ranger | 07:33 |
| duflu | Morning pitti, seb128 | 07:34 |
| seb128 | hey duflu | 07:34 |
| seb128 | how are you? | 07:34 |
| pitti | hey duflu, good day! | 07:34 |
| duflu | seb128: Alright. You? | 07:34 |
| seb128 | I'm good thanks, going through a stack of email after holidays | 07:35 |
| pitti | seb128: it's not like we are in a release week, so no hurry :) | 07:35 |
| seb128 | lol | 07:35 |
| seb128 | I hope you guys did some good bug fixing job while I was away! | 07:35 |
| seb128 | did the systemd user session got completed? | 07:35 |
| pitti | no, that indicator PPA still didn't land :( | 07:36 |
| didrocks | good morning pitti! duflu! | 07:36 |
| pitti | seb128: I made it a fair bit less ugly, though (had some good input at systemd.conf) | 07:36 |
| duflu | Morning didrocks | 07:36 |
| seb128 | oh, right, how was the conference? | 07:36 |
| pitti | seb128: and Laney found/fixed some issues too | 07:37 |
| seb128 | I though the indicators were needed otherwise things were flacky though? | 07:37 |
| seb128 | what blocked that from landing? | 07:37 |
| pitti | seb128: really good; mostly a social week of course (OMG pub and beer for 9 days in a row ☺ ), but some interesting presentations, and productive hackfest | 07:37 |
| pitti | seb128: I don't know, haven't gotten an answer from Ted yet | 07:37 |
| pitti | seb128: it actually works without upstart, then they just get started in gnome-session.service | 07:38 |
| pitti | but I still need to port the unity greeter (lightdm), and that's blocked by that PPA | 07:38 |
| pitti | that's the only (formal) upstart rdepends that's left | 07:38 |
| pitti | so, *shrug*, early z I hope | 07:38 |
| seb128 | right | 07:39 |
| pitti | seb128: and bug 1626651 was fun to debug :) | 07:39 |
| ubot5 | bug 1626651 in policykit-1 (Ubuntu) "brightness keys are handled slower in Yakkety than Xenial" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1626651 | 07:39 |
| seb128 | oh, pam fun, nice ;-) | 07:40 |
| seb128 | coffee, brb | 07:41 |
| pitti | seb128: it actually didn't take that long after all, jderose gave me the right push | 07:41 |
| willcooke | morning gang | 07:57 |
| seb128 | good morning willcooke | 07:59 |
| willcooke | hey seb128! Welcome back, we missed you :) Did you have a good holiday? | 07:59 |
| seb128 | thanks! | 07:59 |
| seb128 | yes, holidays were great | 07:59 |
| willcooke | \o/. | 07:59 |
| seb128 | >30°C in Spain still | 07:59 |
| willcooke | niiiiiice | 08:00 |
| seb128 | quite a difference this morning, 7°C here, brrrr | 08:00 |
| willcooke | ha, yes, same here | 08:00 |
| willcooke | Cold, but a little sun - so quite nice really | 08:00 |
| seb128 | how is the release going? | 08:00 |
| willcooke | clear skies | 08:00 |
| willcooke | Release is OK | 08:00 |
| seb128 | I'm going through email still | 08:00 |
| seb128 | u8 session landed? | 08:00 |
| willcooke | Issues about installing on UEFI are fixed AIUI | 08:01 |
| willcooke | U8 is in | 08:01 |
| seb128 | seems that took a bit more turns still before being ready though? | 08:01 |
| seb128 | it didn't break $things/unity7? | 08:01 |
| willcooke | yeah, a few little bits and pieces, but was OK. | 08:01 |
| seb128 | k, good | 08:01 |
| willcooke | Nothing that I've found yet | 08:01 |
| flexiondotorg | Morning willcooke | 08:01 |
| flexiondotorg | Welcome back seb128 | 08:01 |
| seb128 | hey flexiondotorg, thanks, and welcome to you! | 08:02 |
| flexiondotorg | :-) | 08:02 |
| willcooke | There are a couple of annoyances about the error reporter popping up in the U7 session reporting problems from the U8 one. But I think that people who are playing with U8 will know whats going on | 08:02 |
| seb128 | hope you didn't have a too rough start | 08:02 |
| willcooke | I need to check that Terminal is actually in now, wasn't clear what was going on last week | 08:02 |
| flexiondotorg | seb128, No, I'm settling in thanks. | 08:02 |
| willcooke | and then I have to write a blog post thingy | 08:02 |
| seb128 | great | 08:02 |
| willcooke | morning flexiondotorg | 08:02 |
| flexiondotorg | o/ | 08:02 |
| seb128 | release week, does it mean Laney is visiting London? ;-) | 08:03 |
| flexiondotorg | seb128, Laney is having difficulties getting connected. | 08:05 |
| seb128 | the question was rather to know if there is a release sprint at the office | 08:05 |
| seb128 | and if we have anyone from desktop there | 08:05 |
| willcooke | I haven't heard anything about a release sprint at all this time | 08:06 |
| seb128 | flexiondotorg, like his dsl line is not working? or like he's in London? you didn't really reply to my question ;-) | 08:06 |
| seb128 | weeeird | 08:06 |
| Laney | right then | 08:07 |
| Laney | restarting n-m fixed it | 08:07 |
| Laney | :| | 08:07 |
| Laney | :|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| | 08:07 |
| seb128 | hey Laney! | 08:07 |
| Laney | HI! | 08:07 |
| Laney | hey seb128! | 08:07 |
| flexiondotorg | Morning Laney | 08:07 |
| Laney | how's it going? | 08:07 |
| pitti | hey Laney, good morning! good weekend? | 08:07 |
| seb128 | just read the telegrams | 08:08 |
| * didrocks sees that pitti is telling good morning to everyone but ignored didrocks good morning *sad violon music* :) | 08:08 | |
| didrocks | hey Laney! | 08:08 |
| seb128 | didrocks, did you ever report that bug to upstream n-m on b.g.o? they are usually responsive and it would maybe help to get it resolved | 08:08 |
| * pitti donne une accolade à didrocks et le souhaite un bon jour ! | 08:08 | |
| pitti | "lui souhaite", non? | 08:09 |
| didrocks | seb128: I reported on launchpad, didn't on b.g.o as you told me the logs don't really uncovered anything | 08:09 |
| didrocks | seb128: also note that I tried on fedora, did multiple reboots, works all the time | 08:09 |
| didrocks | pitti: "lui souhaite" or just "souhaite" or even "te souhaite" | 08:09 |
| seb128 | didrocks, yeah, the log don't have much info but upstream might know what to ask or what component to blame | 08:10 |
| * didrocks donne une accolade en retour à pitti | 08:10 | |
| seb128 | I would open one anyway | 08:10 |
| Laney | hey didrocks & pitti | 08:10 |
| didrocks | I need to find them back (or at least, find the bug I reported on launchpad) | 08:10 |
| seb128 | but I never saw that issue here | 08:10 |
| seb128 | intel graphics stack is crap for me in recent versions | 08:10 |
| Laney | pitti: good thanks; climbing, dinner with friends, hanging out & reading - pretty quiet | 08:10 |
| seb128 | but other components work fine | 08:10 |
| Laney | what about you? | 08:10 |
| Laney | seb128: avoided the sunburn? ;-) | 08:11 |
| didrocks | seb128: do you use wifi often? | 08:11 |
| Laney | no london sprint this week | 08:11 |
| seb128 | yes, I had my Ubuntu cap! | 08:11 |
| seb128 | and some sun blocker | 08:11 |
| seb128 | didrocks, yes, I use it 90% of the time | 08:11 |
| seb128 | there is no ethernet cable going where I've my main desk | 08:12 |
| didrocks | interesting, I guess it depends on the card/AP setup | 08:12 |
| seb128 | yes | 08:12 |
| * Laney uses it too a lot, just fine here | 08:12 | |
| seb128 | is your issue on fresh boot has well? | 08:12 |
| seb128 | or after suspend/resume? | 08:12 |
| didrocks | on both | 08:12 |
| didrocks | mostly getting it on fresh boot every morning | 08:13 |
| seb128 | even at conference? | 08:13 |
| seb128 | or specific to your home config? | 08:13 |
| didrocks | happens as well at some conference | 08:13 |
| didrocks | never got it on canonical network though | 08:13 |
| didrocks | but yeah, mostly, everyday, I now power up my laptopt | 08:13 |
| didrocks | laptop* | 08:13 |
| didrocks | and go to do something else for a good 5 minutes | 08:13 |
| didrocks | I have to come back sometimes because n-m stops trying to connect | 08:14 |
| didrocks | so relaunching it | 08:14 |
| didrocks | and have to reenter my passphrase | 08:14 |
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| seb128 | :-/ | 08:14 |
| seb128 | you should open it on bgo they seem responsive and might know what to ask | 08:14 |
| didrocks | daily experience from the past 6 months now, getting use to it :( | 08:14 |
| didrocks | will do then, I wonder if anyone looks at the bugs on our side though, the one on lp stayed dead | 08:15 |
| seb128 | thanks | 08:16 |
| seb128 | happyaron is supposed to... | 08:16 |
| davmor2 | didrocks: what wifi card do you have I had a similar sounding issue with my ethernet card and I had to change the mtu 8192, not sure if the same solution would help you | 08:17 |
| didrocks | 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection (rev 04) | 08:18 |
| didrocks | 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205 [Taylor Peak] (rev 34) | 08:18 |
| didrocks | for the wifi ^ | 08:18 |
| didrocks | davmor2: you had like a 5 minutes to get an ip/authenticated with your AP? | 08:19 |
| happyaron | cuz no clue for too many stuff... | 08:19 |
| davmor2 | didrocks: I'll have a look through my hardware and see if I have a similar card, one thing you might want to do is see if it has powersave mode enabled and if it does disable it and see if that affects it | 08:20 |
| happyaron | many of them could be kernel bugs but I have no direct proof... | 08:20 |
| seb128 | happyaron, hey! no clue is fine, that's when we forward to upstream to see if they have some ;-) | 08:20 |
| happyaron | I see | 08:20 |
| seb128 | well don't forward every weird bug | 08:20 |
| happyaron | yep I know, :) | 08:21 |
| seb128 | but the ones that impact quite some users and come often as complain from an Ubuntu version are worth forwarding | 08:21 |
| seb128 | it's often upstream issues at the end | 08:21 |
| didrocks | davmor2: I tried disabling power saving already, didn't really help | 08:21 |
| happyaron | didrocks: do you have latest firmware installed? | 08:21 |
| didrocks | happyaron: is there new firmwares? | 08:22 |
| didrocks | are* | 08:22 |
| happyaron | what's your installed version? | 08:22 |
| didrocks | see above ^ rev 34 I guess | 08:22 |
| Laney | just accidentally poured water from the kettle on myself | 08:23 |
| Laney | :( | 08:23 |
| davmor2 | didrocks: :( try picking on the kernel team and cyphermox and awe when they are on | 08:23 |
| didrocks | davmor2: cyphermox doesn't handle n-m anymore, I tried to ping him | 08:24 |
| davmor2 | Laney: ijit you okay? run it under cold water asap | 08:24 |
| happyaron | didrocks: ah I mean the linux-firmware package. and look at boot syslog to see which ucode it loads | 08:24 |
| willcooke | I poked c_yphermox about something which sounds a bit like this problem last week. He's pretty sure it's driver related | 08:24 |
| happyaron | should be things like /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-8000C-22.ucode | 08:25 |
| davmor2 | didrocks: it's true but he also did it so long that he might have pointers that other people don't :) | 08:25 |
| didrocks | happyaron: well, I though be updated, right? I'm on latest xenial, or is there anything else I should do | 08:25 |
| willcooke | the bugs around these problems are a real mess as well, lots of "me toos" for what are actually different problems. | 08:25 |
| didrocks | davmor2: happyaron is the new maintainer, that's why I pinged him moons ago :) | 08:25 |
| didrocks | yeah, I bet | 08:25 |
| flexiondotorg | I've only experienced the wifi issues with Intel wifi chpsets, but not all Intel wifi chipsets. | 08:25 |
| didrocks | happyaron: ah, I only have iwlwifi-8000C-16.ucode | 08:26 |
| happyaron | flexiondotorg: and their firmware fixes are almost disabling features... | 08:26 |
| flexiondotorg | Broadcom and Atheros installed into an affected computer resolved the issue. | 08:26 |
| didrocks | (on xenial) | 08:26 |
| Laney | davmor2: it mostly went into my jumper | 08:26 |
| Laney | but have done | 08:26 |
| flexiondotorg | As did install an Intel 8260 (<- I think) | 08:26 |
| happyaron | didrocks: would you mind to try a new kernel + linux-firmware package? | 08:27 |
| didrocks | (nothing in syslog tells me what ucode I'm using) | 08:27 |
| happyaron | i.e. from yakkety | 08:27 |
| didrocks | happyaron: hum, are we sure they are going to work well on xenial, like modules are tested? | 08:27 |
| happyaron | nope, but you can boot back to old kernel anyway | 08:27 |
| flexiondotorg | Laney, seb128 I'm working on several themes fixes. Multiple bugs to be referenced. | 08:27 |
| flexiondotorg | What is the process for an SRU when it addresses multiple bugs? | 08:28 |
| didrocks | happyaron: don't we have that backported anyway with hardware enablement on the LTS? | 08:28 |
| flexiondotorg | Each bugs becames an SRU? | 08:28 |
| didrocks | happyaron: because if there is something I can just enable to use this stack (even if in -proposed), that would be even better to bug proof for our users | 08:28 |
| happyaron | but there's a major bump of kernel version in yakkety | 08:29 |
| happyaron | and only newer kernel would take a newer implementation of the iwlwifi firmware | 08:29 |
| didrocks | oh ok, so I guess I need to manually install new linux-image, & co | 08:30 |
| didrocks | could do that, but not today as it's not a 10 minutes thing :) | 08:30 |
| pishuilu | Hi,all. Who can help to upload ubiquity-slideshow pacakge to ubuntu. The url is https://code.launchpad.net/~ubiquity-slideshow/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/html. Thanks! | 08:30 |
| happyaron | i.e. intel may fix some bug in iwlwifi-8000C-16.ucode and update it, but they also develop new things like iwlwifi-8000C-22.ucode, and that fixed 802.1X problem for myself on thinkpad | 08:31 |
| Laney | flexiondotorg: That's right, each fix needs to be verified | 08:31 |
| didrocks | ok, let's see then! will test. Thanks happyaron :) | 08:32 |
| Sweet5hark | moin | 08:39 |
| * Sweet5hark thinks he found a hotfix for the "white tab" issues with libreoffice-gtk3 ... | 08:40 | |
| flexiondotorg | Sweet5hark, Morning | 08:50 |
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| seb128 | hey Sweet5hark, how are you? | 09:03 |
| seb128 | sorry, tried to reply earlier but seems some IRC servers issue | 09:04 |
| willcooke | fun!!! | 09:04 |
| Laney | what go on | 09:06 |
| andyrock | morning | 09:10 |
| Sweet5hark | hey seb128, welcome back! | 09:10 |
| seb128 | thanks! | 09:10 |
| Sweet5hark | how was time off? | 09:10 |
| seb128 | hey andyrock, how are you? had a good w.e? | 09:11 |
| andyrock | kind of... some hiking on sunday | 09:11 |
| andyrock | you? | 09:11 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, great, spain, sun & 30°C, visited some nice cities, had good wine&tapas, did some swimming in the ocean | 09:11 |
| seb128 | andyrock, good, just back from holidays | 09:11 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: that sounds really awesome! | 09:12 |
| seb128 | it was great :-) | 09:12 |
| Laney | 30° in october | 09:12 |
| Laney | SICKENING | 09:13 |
| seb128 | right | 09:13 |
| seb128 | I put my summer clothes when I got out of bed this morning | 09:13 |
| seb128 | then realized that it's 7°C here | 09:13 |
| seb128 | brrrr | 09:13 |
| Sweet5hark | Laney: lets burn some more coal to bring 30 Celsius in october home to us here in the north. | 09:13 |
| andyrock | seb128: where have you been in Spain? | 09:13 |
| seb128 | andyrock, Andalousia, Malaga, Cadix, Sevilla, Cordovia, etc | 09:14 |
| seb128 | 34°C in Sevilla | 09:14 |
| seb128 | I don't want to go there in middle of summer | 09:15 |
| andyrock | nice! | 09:15 |
| * Sweet5hark was at his new appartment on Saturday night, wanted to take bus home. Should have had to wait for 13 minutes for the right bus. It was 4 celsius and I still had summer clothes on. Decided to take a rental bike instead to keep myself a bit warmer by moving. | 09:16 | |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, when do you move? | 09:17 |
| Sweet5hark | end of this month. | 09:17 |
| Sweet5hark | well, Im trying to move some stuff over bit by bit already, so the "real" move day isnt that hard anymore. | 09:18 |
| pishuilu | cyphermox: Hi, can you help to upload ubiquity-slideshow pacakge to ubuntu? The url is https://code.launchpad.net/~ubiquity-slideshow/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/html | 09:31 |
| Sweet5hark | oh, hmm. seems dsa crypto was broken for good by heninger et al. | 09:35 |
| chrisccoulson | how come we don't have exfat support out of the box? (I just plugged in a brand new micro SD card that comes pre-formatted with exfat) | 09:51 |
| willcooke | How can I grab a screenshot from lightdm? | 09:57 |
| duflu | chrisccoulson: Licensing... IIRC | 09:58 |
| duflu | ? | 09:58 |
| duflu | Which is amusing given Windows machines are now the only machines that don't support large FAT-32 drives | 09:59 |
| duflu | I guess the reason is Microsoft wants you using ExFAT | 09:59 |
| Laney | willcooke: in a VM you can do it from virt-manager | 10:03 |
| Laney | virtual machine -> take screenshot | 10:03 |
| willcooke | plan | 10:05 |
| willcooke | ta | 10:05 |
| Laney | or else xwd -root after exporting DISPLAY and XAUTHORITY (I think) should do it | 10:08 |
| willcooke | seb128, Laney - either of you guys know much gstreamer / clutter? There is a problem causing U8 to hang if you press print screen. https://launchpad.net/bugs/1525285 | 10:44 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1525285 in clutter-gst-3.0 (Ubuntu) "inspecting clutter plugin hangs outside X11" [High,Triaged] | 10:44 |
| Laney | willcooke: not loads, is is urgent? | 10:50 |
| Laney | doesn't seem to be forwarded from that bug at least | 10:50 |
| willcooke | Laney, there are a couple of people who can take a look who know more, so lets wait and see for now | 10:50 |
| willcooke | thanks | 10:50 |
| Laney | willcooke: Would be nice to see it sent upstream - maybe affects wayland too | 10:53 |
| willcooke | Laney, ack will suggest that once I know who is looking at it | 10:53 |
| Laney | gstreamer upstream are often good at fixing stuff too ;-) | 10:54 |
| Laney | otherwise, can try to climb the hill of knowledge | 10:55 |
| Laney | to gaze upon the fields of englightenmtn | 10:55 |
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| seb128 | willcooke, same as Laney, I don't know offhand but I'm happy to have a look | 11:35 |
| willcooke | thanks seb128 - lets see how Jim gets on | 11:35 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, dunno but it's annoying, we don't even have working exfat support in the archive, I realized a few days into my holidays that I couldn't copy the photo from my camera on my laptop because of that, exfat-utils didn't work, gives random errors, every few tries I could see the DCIM directory on the card but it never worked good enough to get the content :-/ | 11:37 |
| Trevinho | seb128: hey, welcome back... how was your holidays? | 11:47 |
| * Trevinho had to take the morning out since recovering from the yesterday's flu :-/ | 11:47 | |
| seb128 | Trevinho, hey, holidays was great, sunny & warm in Spain, saw some nice cities, had wine&tapas ;-) | 11:48 |
| * Laney hugs Trevinho (not too close) | 11:48 | |
| seb128 | Trevinho, oh, flu, get better! | 11:48 |
| Trevinho | Laney: lol :-D | 11:49 |
| Trevinho | seb128: awesome... Was andalusia or where? | 11:49 |
| Trevinho | seb128: I love spain :-) | 11:49 |
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| Laney | flexiondotorg: Are you working on bug #1623856 right now? | 11:59 |
| ubot5 | bug 1623856 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Updated gtk element means you need to specify a size on the details drop down or it is only 1 line high" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1623856 | 11:59 |
| * Laney could fix that quickly | 12:00 | |
| Laney | unless you want the exercise | 12:00 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: so I have a very hackish (but low risk) patch for bug 1527053. What to do with it? 0-day SRU, I guess? Ugly/Hackish in that it hardcodes/special cases Ubuntu themes in the LibreOffice gtk3 backend, because doing generic changes/fix here might break more (themes) as this is one leftover area were LO still "manually" paints widgets imitating gtk, which is fragile. | 12:17 |
| ubot5 | bug 1527053 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Tab names unreadable in GTK3 in Ubuntu" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1527053 | 12:17 |
| flexiondotorg | Laney, Yes I am. | 12:18 |
| Laney | Rightooooooooooooo | 12:25 |
| pishuilu | Hi,all. Who can help to upload ubiquity-slideshow pacakge to ubuntu. The url is https://code.launchpad.net/~ubiquity-slideshow/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/html. Thanks! | 12:27 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, sorry was eating, yes andalusia, Malaga, Cadix, Sevilla, Cordova, etc | 12:32 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, your call, how much does it impact default experience? we could probably still justify an upload today | 12:33 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, in any case prepare the update and let's upload with a bug reference, that can be converted to a SRU if r-t prefers that | 12:34 |
| * flexiondotorg goes lunch hunting | 12:47 | |
| willcooke | ooohhhhhhhh kay | 12:56 |
| willcooke | Looks like I've lost my encrypted swap | 12:56 |
| cyphermox | davmor2: didrocks: what's with n-m? | 12:57 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: his wifi connection is dying all the while I'm assuming it is a driver based issue maybe but figured you might be able to give him some hints and tips to see if it helps | 12:59 |
| pishuilu | cyphermox: Hi, can you help to upload ubiquity-slideshow pacakge to ubuntu? The url is https://code.launchpad.net/~ubiquity-slideshow/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/html | 12:59 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: ^ even sorry willcooke | 12:59 |
| cyphermox | pishuilu: I got it the first time you wrote that, it will be done | 13:00 |
| cyphermox | davmor2: that would be more likely drivers | 13:00 |
| davmor2 | cyphermox: yeah that's what I thought but didrocks would need to be that one to confirm I can't reproduce it here | 13:02 |
| pishuilu | cyphermox: OK, thanks very much! | 13:02 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: k (sorry for the delay, was in a call). As for impact: I think it will raise severe complains unfixed, but it is a nuisance if it is _temporary_ (one can still read the tab labels with some effort, tabbed dialogs arent used too frequently in a common workflow). but yeah, will prep the package. | 13:04 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, thanks | 13:04 |
| cyphermox | davmor2: ok I'll let him chime in | 13:10 |
| renato__ | dpm, popey, hey guys Do you know why clock app has the snappy related files on github instead of the trunk on lp? | 13:16 |
| renato__ | is this some kind of rule? We are adding the necessary files on trunk for core apps. | 13:17 |
| Trevinho | seb128: yeah, I've been there too a couple of years ago... Awesome cities, delicious food... | 13:20 |
| seb128 | indeed! | 13:21 |
| dpm | renato__, there is no particular reason other than we added the snapcraft.yaml and other files to the snappy-playpen project in github. The code can go to the clock app trunk, as we did for calculator already | 13:26 |
| renato__ | dpm, will be nice to have the code on trunk, to setup the automatic snappy package build. Or is possible to do that from git? | 13:28 |
| dpm | renato__, I think it's not possible from git, unless the branch is imported into LP. | 13:29 |
| seb128 | willcooke, did we end up switching the google api key to the new one? | 14:23 |
| seb128 | geoloc seems to still not be working here | 14:23 |
| willcooke | seb128, yeah it's switched but there are still problems. qengho is chasing up with Google | 14:23 |
| seb128 | which kind? the new one got over quota as well?! | 14:23 |
| willcooke | its generating thousands of errors still | 14:25 |
| seb128 | :-/ | 14:26 |
| seb128 | the graph is interesting | 14:27 |
| jbicha | seb128: do you mean in Firefox? because FF49 with the change is stuck in proposed because it doesn't build on ppc64el | 14:27 |
| seb128 | still looking at the same url, unsure if that represents the old key | 14:27 |
| jbicha | for yakkety | 14:27 |
| seb128 | jbicha, I'm using xenial | 14:27 |
| jbicha | oh right | 14:27 |
| seb128 | also the issue is that our google api key is being spammed | 14:27 |
| seb128 | it goes over the quota and stops working | 14:27 |
| seb128 | willcooke, the graph went down to like 30% of the requests it had, I wonder if whatever is generating the requests is using e.g our firefox package and that the number went down as the machines got updated | 14:29 |
| seb128 | it's a bit crazy that we can't get more info on the issuze | 14:30 |
| willcooke | that's exactly what qengho is working on, getting someone to tell us what the heck is goingon | 14:30 |
| seb128 | it means basically anyone can DoS the key from somebody else without issue | 14:30 |
| willcooke | yeah | 14:30 |
| willcooke | At this point I wouldn't be surprised if its something we're doing wrong | 14:30 |
| seb128 | same | 14:30 |
| willcooke | but I still hope it's someone spamming us | 14:30 |
| seb128 | it's a bit weird | 14:31 |
| seb128 | the graph has a linear decrease | 14:31 |
| seb128 | it's like machines were upgraded over time | 14:31 |
| seb128 | if that was some script work from somebody I would expect the key to be changed at some point to the new one | 14:32 |
| seb128 | and the old one to stop being used | 14:32 |
| willcooke | yeah, seems quite sophisticated for someone who just "borrowed" our keys | 14:34 |
| seb128 | yeah | 14:34 |
| seb128 | also it has the exact same sine-wave pattern every day with a spike of successful request at the same time | 14:35 |
| seb128 | well those successful spikes stopped on septembre 28th it seems | 14:36 |
| seb128 | strange | 14:36 |
| jbicha | well, if it's tied to Firefox installs, maybe it's a misbehaving FF extension? | 14:38 |
| seb128 | jbicha, we don't know what it's tied to, the graph is http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/geolockey.png | 14:42 |
| seb128 | green is the errors, blue is the success | 14:42 |
| seb128 | we don't have details on the caller software, ips, or anything | 14:42 |
| willcooke | What the heck is using the speech api? | 14:43 |
| seb128 | the wave is a bit too regular for being random webbrowser use I would say | 14:44 |
| seb128 | willcooke, speech? | 14:44 |
| willcooke | seb128, sorry, missed your comment - what do you mean, like "what is the speech api" or "we are using it for speech" | 15:10 |
| seb128 | willcooke, I didn't understand your "<willcooke> What the heck is using the speech api?" | 15:11 |
| seb128 | I though we were looking at the geoloc one | 15:12 |
| seb128 | I guess some misunderstanding from something I said earlier? | 15:12 |
| willcooke | seb128, ah right | 15:12 |
| willcooke | so with the Google API it seems you get "an API" and then you use that API for all GOOG services | 15:13 |
| willcooke | and as far as I can tell, we shouldnt be hitting the Speech API at all, but yet it shows on the graph that we are | 15:13 |
| willcooke | I think the limits are per service though, not per key | 15:13 |
| willcooke | so that in itself isn't killing our location api usage | 15:14 |
| willcooke | but it looks like it's being used by /something/ | 15:14 |
| willcooke | which is odd. | 15:14 |
| willcooke | *an API *KEY* | 15:14 |
| willcooke | *use that API *key*# | 15:14 |
| Laney | attente: if you're around, could you review that branch I requested you on please? | 15:17 |
| flexiondotorg | Laney, I'#ve been looking at LP: #1623856 | 15:23 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1623856 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Updated gtk element means you need to specify a size on the details drop down or it is only 1 line high" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1623856 | 15:23 |
| flexiondotorg | You said you have a quick fix. | 15:24 |
| flexiondotorg | I'd be interested to get a hint. | 15:24 |
| flexiondotorg | Because I've tweaked the "obvious" selectors without success :-( | 15:24 |
| Laney | flexiondotorg: In the .ui file, set the min-content-height on the scrolled window containing the details textview | 15:25 |
| Laney | since it's a data file, you can seb128 it up and hack that on the installed package to test | 15:26 |
| Laney | :-) | 15:26 |
| flexiondotorg | So your suggesting changing the .ui of the application to resolve this? | 15:26 |
| Laney | Ya | 15:26 |
| seb128 | :-) | 15:26 |
| flexiondotorg | Hmmm. | 15:26 |
| flexiondotorg | So, this issue is not visible using other themes. | 15:27 |
| flexiondotorg | I was working on a theme change. | 15:27 |
| Laney | You think it's a general problem with scrolled windows? | 15:28 |
| flexiondotorg | Well, That was my assumption. | 15:29 |
| flexiondotorg | Other applications using aptdaemon gtk3 widgets exhibit the same issue. | 15:30 |
| flexiondotorg | For example the Adwaita, Arc and Ubuntu MATE themes do not exhibit the issue. | 15:33 |
| Laney | Dunno then | 15:40 |
| Laney | Use the inspector to find out what property is different | 15:40 |
| flexiondotorg | I'm starting to thing some from gtk-3.0 is being used. | 15:41 |
| flexiondotorg | *think | 15:41 |
| Laney | flexiondotorg: Is it because they set a higher min-height on the scrollbar slider? | 15:49 |
| flexiondotorg | I'll check... | 15:49 |
| Laney | is canada off today? | 15:53 |
| flexiondotorg | Laney, minor progress. | 15:54 |
| flexiondotorg | Looks like scales. | 15:54 |
| jbicha | Laney: yes, happy Thanksgiving :) | 15:55 |
| Laney | flexiondotorg: you what | 15:55 |
| flexiondotorg | scale.vertical slider | 15:55 |
| flexiondotorg | Not just that. | 15:55 |
| flexiondotorg | Poking at it. | 15:56 |
| Laney | scale?!?! | 15:56 |
| seb128 | Laney, http://www.officeholidays.com/upcoming/index.php | 15:56 |
| Laney | where's one of those? | 15:56 |
| Laney | seb128: the secretary's list this morning was INCOMPLETE! | 15:57 |
| willcooke | Sorry Laney :) | 16:02 |
| willcooke | I'll add that site to my checklist | 16:03 |
| Laney | haha | 16:03 |
| Laney | no worries | 16:04 |
| Laney | I thought they were entered into the website already | 16:04 |
| * Laney cowboys some uploads in | 16:04 | |
| Laney | davmor2: meow? any chance of a favour? | 16:05 |
| davmor2 | wow Laney is a cat | 16:05 |
| davmor2 | Laney: what's up dude? | 16:05 |
| Laney | davmor2: can you hack /usr/share/applications/ubuntu-system-settings.desktop and add OnlyShowIn=Unity8 to the bottom, just check that works properly quickly please? | 16:06 |
| davmor2 | Laney: sure give me 5 | 16:08 |
| Laney | ta duck | 16:09 |
| davmor2 | Laney: I still see it in unity8 and not in unity7 even when naming it fully if that is what you needed to know? | 16:14 |
| Laney | yeah, it's the same as terminal really | 16:15 |
| Laney | ta | 16:15 |
| davmor2 | Laney: cool :) | 16:15 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks for fixing gnome-software on i386 ;-) | 16:21 |
| Laney | np | 16:21 |
| Laney | feels like ages ago | 16:21 |
| Laney | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-control-center/+bug/1631978 | 16:34 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1631978 in unity-control-center (Ubuntu) "Auto-hide the Launcher and Enable Workspaces options don't work when accessing Settings via desktop right-click" [Undecided,New] | 16:34 |
| Laney | this is true, and weird | 16:34 |
| seb128 | Laney, is COMPIZ_CONFIG_PROFILE set in the u-c-c env in this case? | 16:39 |
| seb128 | guess not | 16:39 |
| seb128 | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-control-center-team/unity-control-center/trunk/view/head:/panels/appearance/cc-appearance-panel.c#L1851 | 16:40 |
| seb128 | u-c-c needs to write in the right compiz profile, that would be lowgfx on the iso | 16:40 |
| seb128 | but if the env is not set it's going to try to write to the normal profile | 16:41 |
| seb128 | which would lead to that issue | 16:41 |
| Laney | good knowledge | 16:44 |
| Laney | nautilus has COMPIZ_CONFIG_PROFILE=ubuntu | 16:47 |
| Laney | whyyyyy | 16:47 |
| seb128 | Laney, regression from http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/trunk/revision/4193 ? | 16:54 |
| seb128 | the upstart job used to setenv | 16:54 |
| Laney | gnome-session has the wrong environment, so I b et it starts nautilus with it wrong too | 16:58 |
| seb128 | right | 17:01 |
| seb128 | those used to be updated by the unity upstart job calling setenv when going in lowgfx | 17:01 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, ^ what that removed in purpose for another way to do the same? | 17:01 |
| Laney | nah | 17:05 |
| Laney | this doesn't quite make sense | 17:05 |
| Laney | I don't think it works on 16.04 with lowgfx either | 17:05 |
| Laney | because gnome-session starts without knowing which compiz profile is going to be used | 17:06 |
| Laney | and that is true for upstart and systemd | 17:06 |
| seb128 | but an upstart job calling initctl set-env, as the unity one does, would update their env no? | 17:06 |
| Laney | it doesn't update the environment of random other processes | 17:07 |
| Laney | only for ones which get started after | 17:07 |
| seb128 | oh ok, I though it would do for any of the upstart user jobs | 17:08 |
| Laney | it's one more reason that the ordering matters | 17:08 |
| * Laney gets a new 16.04 iso to confirm | 17:08 | |
| Laney | yeah, busted there too | 17:14 |
| * Laney assigns Trevinho ;-) | 17:15 | |
| seb128 | heh | 17:16 |
| seb128 | on that note I'm calling it a day | 17:16 |
| seb128 | have a nice evening desktopers! | 17:16 |
| willcooke | night seb128 | 17:16 |
| willcooke | I'm off too. | 17:16 |
| willcooke | tataa | 17:16 |
| Laney | me three | 17:23 |
| Laney | laters | 17:23 |
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| Trevinho | Laney: mhmh, I think we can just apply the setting to both profiles without checking the running one... it would be better also to keep the settings in sync | 20:31 |
| Laney | Trevinho: As you prefer, I think it could be also fixed by setting the variables earlier in the sequence | 20:41 |
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