[00:19] <lunaphyte> "the business world uses centos"
[00:19] <lunaphyte> i almost choked i laughed so hard when i read that
[00:21] <compdoc> they kinda do
[00:21] <compdoc> and ubuntu server
[00:21] <compdoc> I use both
[00:22] <OerHeks> some stock exchange uses suse .. makes me wonder
[00:22] <lunaphyte> compdoc: are you deliberately inventing that you didn't get his point?
[00:22] <lunaphyte> or - to be clear, the rather obvious implication
[00:28] <compdoc> it is all too clear
[00:31] <lunaphyte> odd
[01:01] <Phanes> "instantiation of a centos installation" isn't a thing, you are misusing the word instantiation, that means something else linux_user, no one has used the word 'whence' meaningfully since about the 1800s, "succession" doesn't have a form that yields relative location to another object, ubuntu is heavily used in enterprise, and for good reason (RHEL and Cent are mismanaging language support libraries causing pains for developers, ubuntu is not),
[01:01] <Phanes>  your executive is right, your attitude sucks, you don't really know what you're talking about, the world moved on from that installation method even in RHEL zones about 8 years ago at the onset of orchestration concept in virtualized environments, and alternatives spur competent development and systems administrators.  consider a new line of work.
[01:01] <Phanes> linux_user, ^^
[01:02] <Phanes> ya dick
[01:05]  * Phanes sighs
[01:05] <Phanes> im so burned out on pretend sysadmins trying to push people around with their made up expertise
[01:09] <Phanes> just last year I watched a fortune 100 transition from single instance non-scaled infra to virtualized SOA powered by ubuntu in a full blown SDLC that powers the world's largest database, and this year saw at least 3 notable F100 enterprises claim to do the same, and google's been Ubuntu-powered for several years now
[01:10] <Phanes> now in google's fairness, that's a bad example, because they use practically everything including their own homegrown google-poo
[01:13] <Phanes> got anything to say, linux_user?  any pretend expertise lined up for someone doing what you're pretending to do?
[01:13] <Phanes> by all means let me be the focal point of your frustration so you aren't beating up the other regs here
[01:15] <Phanes> anyway, check out configuration management systems in an orchestration layer stack as an alternative to the golden image approach, it doesn't work anymore for scalable infra.
[01:19]  * Gorian hugs Phanes 
[02:37] <Village> Hello, what package is - cURL ?
[02:42] <pmatulis> Village, the curl binary is found in the curl package. looking for something else?
[02:43] <Village> pmatulis, i will try, thanks for now
[08:08] <SemiNus> Hi all
[08:08] <SemiNus> is anyone of you using SuiteCRM or SugarCRM, please?
[10:22] <Th3_Jok3r> Mornings
[10:26] <freakynl> Hi, I rsynced the disk of a machine to another one (making it virtual), ran update-grub, grub-install /dev/sda, update-initramfs -u -k all, but it doesn't boot. It seems to insist to put the old UUID of the filesystem in grub
[10:26] <freakynl> Any idea where it gets that from? System is currently booted, just used 'e' to edit the boot lines in grub (once) and set it to /dev/sda1 instead of the UUID and boots fine then, but even when regenerating the menu.lst then it will still use the old UUID's
[10:29] <freakynl> nvm, removed /boot/grub/menu.lst and ran update-grub after that, now it's nicely regenerated
[10:52] <JoeAlamo> Anyone here created a custom Ubuntu 16 server image using OEM Configuration Mode?
[10:55] <OerHeks> JoeAlamo, nice question, i'd love to see an answer too.
[10:55] <JoeAlamo> I may be able to give one in a couple hours, depending how things go... :p
[10:57] <OerHeks> just thinking about putting grub on the hdd and the iso too. not sure how oem will start tasksel..
[10:58] <JoeAlamo> Yeah having a bit of trouble piecing the process together in my head
[10:58] <OerHeks> hmmm, this page gives 2 answers http://askubuntu.com/questions/736484/oem-install-ubuntu-server-14-04
[10:59] <OerHeks> no & yes
[11:00] <JoeAlamo> Following this guide, but it's pretty outdated http://www.logicsupply.com/explore/io-hub/how-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-12-04-installation-image/
[12:55] <binia> hello to everyone
[12:55] <Pici> hi
[12:56] <binia> gonnaidle here, reading and learning is the key :)
[12:57] <cpaelzer> rbasak: I see today is no triage bug squashing party meeting
[12:58] <cpaelzer> rbasak: I still have 8 to do, but I have two bugs that puzzle me and wanted to ask if you have a few minutes to discuss about them
[12:58] <cpaelzer> kind of as replacement for that meeting :-)
[12:58] <rbasak> Sure
[13:15] <OerHeks> hi binia, good start!
[13:15] <binia> hi, thanks. not complete noob
[13:15] <binia> used ubuntu 12.04 a lil bit years ago, then debian mostly
[13:16] <binia> now im into ubuntu, debian and centos
[13:17] <binia> spent some time in #ubuntu but so many people is using ubuntu desktop there on local pc or laptop
[13:17] <binia> im all about remote servers
[13:18] <willemgf> Hi, I'm having following issue with nfs-server on ubuntu 16.04. I have an export configured for some clients (DNS-names), but after rebboting the nfs-server, that export is not available. In the journalctl I see following message: "exportfs[1013]: exportfs: Failed to resolve ...". Anyone who can help me?
[13:28] <binia> did you mount nfs-server as ip or hostname?
[13:29] <willemgf> based on host-name
[13:29] <binia> try mount it with ip maybe?
[13:30] <binia> sample: mount -t nfs -o proto=tcp,port=2409 192.168.1.1:/ /dev
[13:31] <willemgf> when I add the hosts and ip's to /etc/hosts the export becomes available after reboot. But that is not an option in our environment. The client can have another ip after reinstalling them in our cloud environment
[13:32] <binia> so all has to be based on hostnames then
[13:32] <willemgf> SOrry, misunderstanding I think. The issue happens on the nfs-server. I do not have an issue on the clients. These mount happens well
[13:34] <binia> yeah, i think i understand in my n00biness
[13:34] <willemgf> In other words, it looks like is can not yet resolve the hosts defined for the exports when the nfs-server service is started.
[13:34] <binia> why not run local dns server for that?
[13:34] <binia> hmm, might be wrong
[13:34] <binia> didnt set own nfs-server from scratch
[13:34] <binia> yet
[13:37] <binia> willemgf, https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2245136
[13:37] <binia> could this help?
[13:38] <willemgf> thnx, reading the page right now, will let you know if it is helpful
[13:45] <binia> cool
[13:45] <willemgf> binia, I think this is applicable for clients using an nfs-share. It refers to the /etc/fstab file. As mentioned before, the issue happens on the nfs-server.
[13:48] <binia> let me see if my friend google knows more then
[16:21] <botrit> hi.  i have a server running 15.04, which i'd like to upgrade.  do-release-upgrade check for a new release, finds 16.04, tries to upgrade to that, and says "Can not upgrade.  An upgrade from 'vivid' to 'xenial' is not supported with this tool."
[16:21] <botrit> why is it finding 16.04?  how can i tell it to not try upgrading straight to 16.04?
[16:23] <botrit> i have http://dpaste.com/2X0TQFB.txt
[16:25] <roaksoax> botrit: you need to upgrade to wily
[16:25] <roaksoax> botrit: before you can upgrade to an LTS
[16:25] <roaksoax> botrit: you can only upgrade from LTS to LTS
[16:25] <rbasak> There's https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades - I'm not sure if it helps in this case, but that's where I'd expect to find instructions.
[16:25] <rbasak> (since Wily is also EOL)
[16:27] <botrit> roaksoax: i'd love to, that would be perfectly fine.  why won't the server do it?
[16:28] <roaksoax> rbasak: you'd need to follow what rbasak just shared
[16:28] <botrit> rbasak: thanks, yeah - those are exactly the steps i'm doing
[16:30] <botrit> http://dpaste.com/2TZKMHB.txt
[16:30] <botrit> it's 15.04, it's up to date, apt-get update works fine [the repos are found and retrieved]
[19:08] <pterodactyl> If I configure the firewall to block any traffic on any ports other than some standard ones, how will the ephemeral ports work? And if they'd be blocked then how am I supposed to configure the firewall correctly?
[19:15] <teward> pterodactyl: without knowing what you're planning on configuring, and a layout of what rules you want to implement I couldn't help give any guidance.
[19:16] <teward> but the idea is that there's states of the packets and traffic to mark it as related to other traffic, or already-established communications, and then to accept those.  Similarly, only accept NEW connections as separate ACCEPT rules on the ports you want to control inbound
[19:17] <teward> and be a little less strict on the outbound ports, unless you *only* want to communicate to certain ports (which would hurt your ephemeral ports)
[19:18] <teward> (ufw makes managing this and setting it up easier, if you choose to do that, if you choose the iptables route you have to configure a bunch of things like that stateful controls manually
[19:20] <pterodactyl> teward : Yeah! I'm about to use ufw. What I had in mind is to block any kind of traffic on any port so that the port scanners won't reveal any thing about the state of the port.
[19:20] <pterodactyl> I only want 443 and 22 to be open.
[19:21] <pterodactyl> But if I deny the traffic flow on all other ports, wouldn't it interrupt the working of ephemeral ports?
[19:22] <pterodactyl> And I don't wanna be locked out of my VPS. :D