| === m0nkey__ is now known as m0nkey_ | ||
| daftykins | good morning all | 07:03 |
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| JonTheNiceGuy[m] | TZAG! | 07:24 |
| daftykins | qué? | 07:25 |
| JonTheNiceGuy[m] | Time Zone Appropriate Greeting :) (like "Good Evening", or "Mornin'") :D | 07:26 |
| daftykins | ah that's a new one on me | 07:28 |
| JonTheNiceGuy[m] | It was something I used to see on identi.ca a lot. | 07:30 |
| daftykins | i used to see that site in social links but never knew what it was | 07:31 |
| JonTheNiceGuy[m] | It was a self-hosted alternative to Twitter. | 07:31 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 07:44 |
| SuperMatt | good morning to you too | 07:49 |
| brobostigon | morning SuperMatt | 07:49 |
| diplo | Morning all | 07:50 |
| brobostigon | morning diplo | 07:50 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 08:05 |
| Gargoyle | o/ | 08:09 |
| BigRedS | goood morning! | 08:12 |
| foobarry | brrrrr | 08:14 |
| daftykins | cold already? :) | 08:17 |
| SuperMatt | I was quite happy to come in to the office this morning to find the heating on, however now it's off again and the aircon has kicked in and I was to go on a rampage | 08:18 |
| daftykins | sounds like a very conflicted setup :) | 08:19 |
| SuperMatt | I just want the warmth to embrace me like a lover | 08:23 |
| daftykins | do a few press ups ;) | 08:24 |
| foobarry | i have a vest on today | 08:24 |
| daftykins | haha | 08:24 |
| foobarry | and cashmere sweater | 08:24 |
| foobarry | which seems to have shrunk :( | 08:24 |
| daftykins | fire the laundy staff | 08:26 |
| brobostigon | can i fire myself? | 08:27 |
| Gargoyle | Yep. | 08:27 |
| Gargoyle | I've done it | 08:27 |
| foobarry | http://www.wikihow.com/Unshrink-Clothes | 08:27 |
| foobarry | i bet Myrtti has done this kind of thing | 08:28 |
| brobostigon | i fire myself then from doing laundry. lol. | 08:28 |
| foobarry | unshrinking woollen or cashmere | 08:28 |
| davmor2 | foobarry: does the label on the jumper say hand wash only, if so then my recommendation is to follow the instructions it's why they are there :P | 08:29 |
| foobarry | i didn't do it | 08:29 |
| foobarry | my wife dunnit | 08:29 |
| foobarry | she also shrunk my favourite tee | 08:29 |
| brobostigon | yep, i cant blme my gf for that, i do my own laundry. | 08:29 |
| foobarry | its only shurnk in the length a bit | 08:29 |
| davmor2 | foobarry: what she do throw it all in a boil wash | 08:29 |
| foobarry | apparently a gentle wool wash | 08:30 |
| foobarry | it would have been mullered on anything else. | 08:30 |
| foobarry | just a bit tight and high now | 08:30 |
| brobostigon | sounds like you made your own corset accidentally. | 08:30 |
| Myrtti | lol, you're joking. I just turned a machineful of laundry green on Friday. on my defence I did put a colour catcher sheet into the wash, too. It just turns out that the item in the wash was so badly dyed it probably would've needed the whole box of sheets. | 08:31 |
| Myrtti | and if it's really shrunk and felted, there's not much you can do, apart from upcycling it into something else | 08:32 |
| foobarry | its not felted | 08:33 |
| foobarry | just riding a bit high on my waist | 08:33 |
| foobarry | it stell looks and feels the same | 08:33 |
| === andyjones2001_ is now known as andyjones2001 | ||
| === SuperMat1 is now known as SuperMatt | ||
| * diplo wonders if foobarry may have ate to much over the summer :D | 09:15 | |
| foobarry | i'm pretty much teh same weight as when i was 18 | 09:26 |
| foobarry | if not a bit less | 09:26 |
| TwistedLucidity | Lucky bugger, I'm about 13kg heavier | 09:27 |
| TwistedLucidity | It's just latent muscle... | 09:28 |
| SuperMatt | I'm about the same weight as I was when I started uni | 09:30 |
| SuperMatt | a good 11 and a half stone | 09:30 |
| SuperMatt | but it's a whole one stone above my recommended BMI weight | 09:30 |
| TwistedLucidity | 88kg here (which is about 13 stone) | 09:31 |
| foobarry | i need to gain a 1 1/2 stone | 09:31 |
| SuperMatt | but all the exercise in the world can't make me keep that weight | 09:31 |
| TwistedLucidity | But then I am 1.94m (6'4") tall | 09:31 |
| SuperMatt | I'm a full foot shorter | 09:31 |
| TwistedLucidity | My plan is to up exercise slightly, cut back on the booze a bit, let the energy imbalance sort things out | 09:32 |
| TwistedLucidity | Then pig-out at Chrimbo! \o/ | 09:33 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all! Happy Monday, and please spare a thought for those in need of support on World Mental Health Day. 👋 | 09:43 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd2B6SjMh_w | 09:48 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: I think that covers us :) | 09:48 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: it's also just a great song :) | 09:49 |
| JamesTait | davmor2, 👍 | 09:52 |
| daftykins | these are gold - < OerHeks> these are funny http://www.boredpanda.com/comedy-wildlife-photography-awards-shortlist-2016/ | 12:42 |
| foobarry | nice | 12:46 |
| daftykins | that's neat, i was having problems with the NFC in my Nexus 5, as i wanted to try out Android Pay - just took it apart and added some tape to pack up the connector on the antenna in the rear case of the phone, works again now :D | 12:47 |
| zmoylan-pi | that sounds... reassuring... | 12:48 |
| aptanet | Anyone here good with Samba permissions, specifically those that differ between accounts that look to be setup the same? | 12:50 |
| daftykins | no, it's a replacement back and so on because this phone had a smashed screen when my mate gave it to me | 12:50 |
| aptanet | It is driving me up the wall! | 12:50 |
| daftykins | aptanet: perhaps a paste of some info would explain that statement a bit better :> | 12:51 |
| aptanet | that will be tricky given my irc client is connected via a vpn to quassel in my office from my tablet and I am connected to the samba server via my laptop! | 12:52 |
| daftykins | i was talking about using a pastebin, just do something to demo / explain the issue a bit better | 12:52 |
| daftykins | use your loaf :P | 12:52 |
| diddledan | mmm, bread | 12:53 |
| daftykins | i bought some pancakes at M&S | 12:53 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 12:53 |
| aptanet | basically when I create a directory with my account I get permissions dwrxrwx--- as per smb.conf, but other accounts get dwrxdr-x--- | 12:53 |
| diddledan | M&S food is teh awesome | 12:54 |
| diddledan | err | 12:54 |
| daftykins | aptanet: i think i use a force group on mine, other than that dunno | 12:54 |
| diddledan | you can't have two d's | 12:54 |
| daftykins | heh that's true | 12:55 |
| daftykins | drwxrwxrwx | 12:55 |
| aptanet | diddledan: sorry, misstype! | 12:55 |
| daftykins | never met 'er | 12:55 |
| aptanet | got a force directory mode in there already as well as a force group | 12:56 |
| daftykins | could be ignoring one, or perhaps your users are not in the same | 12:56 |
| aptanet | I'm working on the basis that there is something different with the accounts, the only issue is most accounts not giving group write when they create a directory | 12:57 |
| daftykins | time to compare 'em then :) | 12:57 |
| aptanet | that's what I have been doing, now looking for more inspiration | 12:58 |
| diddledan | create modes are usually dictated by the user's umask | 12:58 |
| aptanet | pdbedit shows they are identical as far as samba goes | 12:58 |
| aptanet | diddledan: damn, I've been through that but now I find a difference - thanks | 13:01 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 13:03 |
| aptanet | that's one of the things I miss about working for a large company - being able to take a coffee break and talk techie to clear your brain! | 13:04 |
| daftykins | so umasks where? | 13:07 |
| diddledan | were* | 13:07 |
| daftykins | i know they're a user property, but where would you be glancing for issues in samba config? | 13:08 |
| diddledan | oic | 13:08 |
| diddledan | erm. I would think there be no difference between samba mounts and other mounts as regards to umask | 13:09 |
| diddledan | i.e. it is whatever the session has | 13:09 |
| daftykins | oh so you're saying whover mounts the share would have that uid bound potentially and throwing it that way? | 13:09 |
| diddledan | just run umask in your terminal | 13:10 |
| daftykins | that's just giving the current users one though right, how do you take this knowledge and apply it to the issue... | 13:10 |
| diddledan | well when you create a file, no matter where that file is, your requested permissions will be filtered through your current umask before the file is created | 13:11 |
| aptanet | daftykins: 002 on my account and 022 on the others | 13:12 |
| diddledan | the fact that it's a samba mount in this case is irrelevant | 13:13 |
| daftykins | but they're never gonna be the same, right? | 13:13 |
| daftykins | so what do you even do with that one o0 | 13:13 |
| aptanet | now the fun bit is working out where it is being set differently, identical .bashrc and .profile files (well, bar starting byoby which shouldn't touch it) | 13:17 |
| aptanet | oh fun, changing the umask made no difference | 13:30 |
| aptanet | I also realised that it is only on directories not files | 13:30 |
| diddledan | there goes my theory then :-) | 13:30 |
| aptanet | more digging in the config! | 13:30 |
| aptanet | diddledan: it was a promising one, the first notable difference that seemed likely | 13:31 |
| aptanet | been a while since I was on irc much, I lived on it back in the 90s and 00s | 13:34 |
| Gargoyle | aptanet, Things just go round in circles. You start with IRC, then try MSN, Jabber, Yahoo then come back to IRC for a few years. Then HipChat and Slack are the new cool apps, but eventually, you come back to IRC! ;-) | 13:36 |
| aptanet | Gargoyle: I did jabber (still have a prosody server running in the office), but not yahoo or msn | 13:37 |
| aptanet | briefly used slack, but hated it - or possibly more the fact that it was too easy for people to ignore/miss messages | 13:38 |
| aptanet | I'm still old school and prefer email - imap connected not webmail too :) | 13:38 |
| aptanet | irc is good for chatting through issues, although I've tended to be more answering than asking questions in the past | 13:40 |
| aptanet | I spent hours on the smoothwall channel back in the day - if anyone remembers that! | 13:40 |
| Gargoyle | Nope. I plagued pfSense with all my firewall questions! :-) | 13:41 |
| Gargoyle | Spent too many hours on QuakeNet back in the day. | 13:43 |
| aptanet | I was involved with smoothwall from the start, and worked for them for a while | 13:43 |
| Gargoyle | Nice, is it still going? | 13:43 |
| aptanet | I had a bit of a gap in gaming between my Amstrad and an original Playstation | 13:43 |
| aptanet | yes, mainly in a commercial sense, but the project is still there | 13:44 |
| aptanet | not used it in years, I moved to ipcop for a while and then moved on | 13:44 |
| Gargoyle | I played with ipcop a long time ago. Currently running ipfire. | 13:45 |
| daftykins | i started with ipcop, went to smoothwall, then the alcatel speedtouch 'modem' stopped working with it so i gave up, by then consumer routers had gone mainstream | 13:47 |
| aptanet | I've been using dd-wrt for a while and am playing with openwrt at the moment | 13:48 |
| aptanet | first thing was to turn an old dlink dir615 from virgin into a range extender | 13:48 |
| daftykins | heh | 13:49 |
| aptanet | free old hardware plus free software is great :) | 13:49 |
| daftykins | sounds like it could be nasty ol' 2.4GHz 802.11g only | 13:49 |
| daftykins | my ISP gave out some nice newer 802.11ac dualband routers a bit ago, only 2:2 stream, but 866Mb is pretty neat | 13:50 |
| aptanet | it is, but it has been in use for a few years now | 13:52 |
| aptanet | I'll be switching to an old ac netgear and an old ac tplink soon I hope | 13:52 |
| daftykins | i didn't used to care, but now i can throw files around when on the laptop at 50MB/sec+ it's quite neat | 13:52 |
| daftykins | used to just plug into wired of course :D | 13:53 |
| aptanet | the dlink was supposed to be a temporary upgrade from some devolo dlan units that proved very poor performance | 13:53 |
| daftykins | oh, powerline? | 13:54 |
| aptanet | yes, very poor on my cabling | 14:04 |
| aptanet | particularly when a slightly slow 11g was an upgrade in performance! | 14:04 |
| daftykins | i've got a cheap tp-link set to go up into the bedroom for my music streamer device / internet radio - does 100Mb just dandy, but my wiring is quite apt | 14:05 |
| daftykins | i did have a client with a devolo pair ages ago that seemed to have fallen over every time they wanted to use it | 14:06 |
| Gargoyle | Good thing about doing the house refurb, I have cables :-) | 14:07 |
| Gargoyle | Wi-Fi and 16" thick 100 year old farmhouse walls don't play nice! | 14:08 |
| Gargoyle | Should be able to run 10Gig at some point in the future too (used cat6). | 14:08 |
| daftykins | only 100? :) 16th/17th century here | 14:09 |
| daftykins | i read some cheaper chips have been produced for the 2 to 5 Gigabit range, could be neat | 14:09 |
| diddledan | daftykins: I want your babies^H^H house | 14:58 |
| daftykins | diddledan: wat | 15:03 |
| diddledan | daftykins: 16th century sounds tasty | 15:03 |
| aptanet | my 1950's house seems a bit new! | 15:25 |
| aptanet | although the rate they're building round here it is beginning to feel like an old timer compared to others around! | 15:26 |
| daftykins | :) | 15:27 |
| aptanet | not easy balancing a tablet and separate keyboard while sitting in the driver's seat | 15:27 |
| daftykins | concerned i heard death watch up in my roof the other day mind you | 15:27 |
| daftykins | (the woodworm) | 15:28 |
| aptanet | not that I'm driving I hasten to add! | 15:28 |
| aptanet | we've had mice, but they are quite easy to catch and re-home | 15:28 |
| foobarry | mice keep respawning | 15:29 |
| foobarry | and get clever after a while | 15:29 |
| foobarry | completely avoiding food on traps | 15:29 |
| diddledan | foobarry: you need to figure-out the respawn points and then camp there with your BFG5000 ready | 15:30 |
| foobarry | under the floorboards :( | 15:31 |
| diddledan | I never was any good at FPSes | 15:31 |
| diddledan | or is that FPSing? | 15:31 |
| aptanet | so far they stay gone for a long while, and peanut butter has proven irresistible | 15:31 |
| diddledan | what about the jelly?! | 15:32 |
| diddledan | can't have peanut butter without jelly! although in the UK that seems a bit of an odd combo | 15:32 |
| daftykins | indeedy | 15:32 |
| aptanet | jelly? jam! | 15:32 |
| diddledan | imagine trying to convince an american that ice-cream and jelly is a thing | 15:33 |
| aptanet | eek! | 15:35 |
| * aptanet scrambles for cables | 15:35 | |
| diddledan | vince cables? | 15:35 |
| diddledan | :-p | 15:35 |
| diddledan | you low on power? | 15:36 |
| aptanet | no, the ones that provide power for my phone / hotspot | 15:36 |
| aptanet | and to think that my remote connection to the office used to be a 14.4 dial up modem! | 15:37 |
| diddledan | :-o | 15:37 |
| diddledan | eep | 15:37 |
| diddledan | I had a 56Kflex modem as my first connection media, which usually synced at about 40Kbps | 15:38 |
| aptanet | still got my usr modem somewhere | 15:38 |
| diddledan | V.90 or V.92 (I forget whether I had the earlier spec or not) | 15:38 |
| diddledan | yeah I've got a V.92 serial-attached one knocking about here someplace | 15:39 |
| aptanet | at one point I had to dial in to my windows nt4 desktop to then dial out over isdn to a windows 98 desktop in Holand that was the mail server! | 15:39 |
| diddledan | lol | 15:39 |
| diddledan | the joys of multiple hops | 15:39 |
| aptanet | It was a bit of a step down from Netscape messaging server running on AIX on an RS6000 | 15:40 |
| diddledan | still get crazy stuff like that with top-secret access | 15:40 |
| aptanet | I switched a customer's isp remotely through their dial-up connection once | 15:41 |
| aptanet | scary waiting for the connection to come back on the new ip | 15:41 |
| diddledan | at my old place of work they had a government issued laptop which required multi-factor auth to boot (encrypted HDD with a key-fob-style decryption module) which you then needed to login to, then remote desktop to the mildly secure network and then another remote desktop from there into the secure network | 15:42 |
| diddledan | it was weird | 15:42 |
| daftykins | :S | 15:42 |
| daftykins | http://i.imgur.com/010Ufgx.jpg new tires! gotta pop the downhill ones off :) | 15:42 |
| diddledan | oooh | 15:42 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 15:42 |
| aptanet | right, time to get back on the road | 15:51 |
| diddledan | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaSaWfw07Sw | 15:58 |
| diddledan | Tom Scott | 15:58 |
| daftykins | i saw the bike share system at NASA in Houston, that was neat | 16:00 |
| daftykins | just free bikes on stands, use any and take it to another building :> | 16:00 |
| diddledan | doesn't London have that as a general city-wide thing? | 16:01 |
| daftykins | a lot of cities have such a system that's paid, yes | 16:01 |
| daftykins | they're shocking the ones i've seen in the US, you have to check them in every 30 mins | 16:01 |
| diddledan | http://www.visitlondon.com/traveller-information/getting-around-london/london-cycle-hire-scheme#Y6OpKBA5eKBIQDr8.97 | 16:01 |
| daftykins | point was it is a staff thing though :> | 16:04 |
| diddledan | :-) | 16:05 |
| diddledan | sciency types are usually pretty good at sharing | 16:06 |
| diddledan | betterment of everyone | 16:06 |
| diddledan | none of this silly "out for yourself" nonsense | 16:07 |
| daftykins | client just had a fake apple ID email claiming a bank card had been added, link pointed to a .pt domain though | 16:07 |
| daftykins | how naughty | 16:07 |
| diddledan | grr | 16:09 |
| diddledan | ooh, I got westworld episode 2 | 16:11 |
| diddledan | \o/ for automation | 16:11 |
| Myrtti | Google has those bikes for their employees | 16:13 |
| Myrtti | in Google colours | 16:13 |
| * Laney has started getting spam to the dropbox-only email address | 16:22 | |
| Laney | grrrr | 16:22 |
| m0nkey_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpMvS1Q1sos | 17:10 |
| daftykins | it's all about the Cores | 17:16 |
| daftykins | not The Corrs though | 17:17 |
| diddledan | just watching brian lunduke & matt hartley's linux and whatnot where they're talking about https://matrix.org/ | 19:21 |
| diddledan | intriguing | 19:22 |
| diddledan | specifically https://matrix.org/docs/projects/client/riot.html | 19:22 |
| === webpigeon_ is now known as webpigeon | ||
| m0nkey_ | http://i.imgur.com/zIoD2pO.jpg | 22:21 |
| zmoylan-pi | that'll take care of those feckin immigrant grey squirrels... :-P | 22:25 |
| diddledan | :-) | 22:26 |
| diddledan | google cloud services have a load of new datacentres coming online today: https://cloud.google.com/about/locations/ | 22:41 |
| diddledan | including london | 22:41 |
| daftykins | just finished Deus Ex ;_; | 22:45 |
| diddledan | time for call of duty? | 22:45 |
| zmoylan-pi | see, you were holly in red dwarf we could type in a few commands and erase them from your memory so you could enjoy them again... | 22:46 |
| daftykins | nah i don't play call of doody | 22:47 |
| diddledan | https://youtu.be/lZz2il4nhH8?t=15 | 22:47 |
| daftykins | zmoylan-pi: i wish that were possible for books and music | 22:48 |
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