[10:17] <om26er> mzanetti: ping
[10:18] <om26er> mzanetti: what are your thoughts on bug 1630337 can we get that implemented ?
[10:20] <om26er> for anyone else reading, we need this for Autopilot to animate the mouse pointer under Mir based desktop session.
[10:42]  * om26er wonders if we could have a dbus signal on when the shell switches modes (desktop to touch and vice versa)
[10:52] <mzanetti> om26er, I still stand by my opinion... you want so many internals of unity8, just start it in testability mode
[10:52] <om26er> Tools must rely on APIs not on internal details.
[10:52] <mzanetti> you've got all you want there... IMO it's wrong to set up a setting testing interface just for autopilot when we already made things available for autopilot
[10:53] <mzanetti> well, that's a fair argument...
[10:54] <mzanetti> om26er, but we have the autopilot helper thingies for that, which are supposed to be stable
[10:54] <mzanetti> or well, an "API" at least
[10:56] <om26er> mzanetti: that would be over-doing things, even a simple test would restart unity to enable testability.
[10:56] <mzanetti> don't restart it all the time
[10:56] <om26er> X11 provides these APIs, we expect a Mir based server to be our friend as well :)
[10:56] <mzanetti> just configure the testing host to have unity8 always in testability mode
[10:56] <mzanetti> X11 is broken
[10:57] <mzanetti> which is why we have mir
[10:58] <om26er> its not always about a lab like environment, people run tests on their *own* desktops all the time, We should not restart their session.
[11:01] <om26er> For us number1 priority is to get pointer co-ordinates. Then a dbus signal that tells if a mode switch happened i.e. touch to pointer etc. It would also be good to have current orientation but that can be fixed at mirout' level I assume.
[13:59] <om26er> What tells Unity8 to switch to Desktop mode vs touch mode ? Is there an event system that an external process could hook into to get those signals ?
[14:22] <kaisoz> hi!
[14:29] <Saviq> om26er, there's a gsetting
[14:29] <Saviq> com.canonical.Unity8 usage-mode
[14:30] <Saviq> but that might not be long-term