| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> A few issues with KDE PIM I think | 01:19 |
|---|---|---|
| valorie | weee, after an update, restart is pristine | 01:38 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo, acheronuk: any luck resurrecting KCI, or should we work together tomorrow to get this done? | 01:52 |
| valorie | they went to bed with no progress IMO | 01:54 |
| acheronuk | tsimonq2: KCI is going nowhere without slaves and keys configured at the very least | 07:50 |
| acheronuk | ahoneybun: do you mean the PIM problem you already brought up in that pastebin? didn't get that upgrading xenial to yakkety in a VM last night | 07:52 |
| acheronuk | tsimonq2: sounds like QtWebEngine is still giving debian major headaches | 07:54 |
| acheronuk | and we will need that in ZZ if we are to get better PIM in | 07:55 |
| acheronuk | Mirv: are you just waiting on debian for QtWebEngine, for ZZ etc, or do you have something testing in mind that could go into the archive? | 07:57 |
| acheronuk | sorry to ask now, just going through things in my head and getting that out there before I forget. | 07:58 |
| Mirv | acheronuk: no plans from my side since we use oxide-qt for web browser, so basically it can be synced at any point wanted. but if it needs Qt 5.7, then that'll go towards Jan-Feb (currently waiting for 5.7.1 to come out, 5.7.0 is too buggy) although naturally testing PPAs will be there earlier. | 08:08 |
| acheronuk | Mirv: I'm just thinking ahead on new KDEPim which annoyingly requires it. looks like we will be a bit stumped on that for a while then, at least in the archive | 08:10 |
| === santa is now known as Guest77141 | ||
| === fregl_ is now known as fregl | ||
| === Guest77141 is now known as santa_ | ||
| tsimonq2 | ok I'm off o/ | 11:36 |
| BluesKaj_ | Hi all | 11:47 |
| === mgolden is now known as mgolden_ | ||
| jimarvan | hey everyone | 13:42 |
| === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube | ||
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> Heyo | 14:16 |
| soee | https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.8.1.php | 14:29 |
| * mamarley something something trout | 14:30 | |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <acheronuk> I would rather see a KCI *fix* | 14:37 |
| jimarvan | xD | 15:12 |
| jimarvan | you are nasty :P | 15:12 |
| jimarvan | right I am off, see ya later peeps | 15:52 |
| santa_ | clivejo: ping? | 16:37 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Hi Santa_ | 16:42 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <acheronuk> calligra? | 16:43 |
| santa_ | hi | 16:43 |
| santa_ | yes, I think I'm about to finish, so to speak | 16:43 |
| santa_ | I think I will have it ready for uploading soon | 16:43 |
| santa_ | maybe in a couple of hours will finish my test build | 16:44 |
| clivejo | are the release team expecting it? | 16:45 |
| santa_ | more or less, yes | 16:46 |
| santa_ | we demoted it to -proposed to unblock the iso building | 16:46 |
| clivejo | is calligra on the iso? | 16:46 |
| santa_ | but I asked them to upload a fixed version later | 16:46 |
| santa_ | no, it's not on the iso, hence why we demoted it to -proposed: ot unblock the iso builds | 16:47 |
| santa_ | and let kde-runtime go to yakkety | 16:47 |
| santa_ | aw shit | 16:48 |
| santa_ | I forgot to remove that dependency | 16:48 |
| lisandro | clivejo, ScottK: tried to update kdeconnect a couple of months ago, tests failed, couldn't put more time on it | 16:50 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <tsimonq2> Hai | 17:14 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <tsimonq2> Lunch | 17:14 |
| soee | o/ | 17:17 |
| acheronuk | ETA for release starting new iso spins seems to be in "More than an hour, less than several." | 17:42 |
| clivejo | acheronuk: how very precise of you! | 17:59 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <tsimonq2> :P | 18:00 |
| clivejo | tsimonq2: did you close the LP bug for CVE2016-7966 | 18:02 |
| clivejo | LP 1630700 | 18:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1630700 in kcoreaddons (Ubuntu Precise) "CVE - KMail - HTML injection in plain text viewer" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1630700 | 18:03 |
| clivejo | any luck on calligra? | 18:09 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: that is infinity's precise statement | 18:12 |
| pedahzur | I realize this isn't strictly devel, but since it has to do with debugging...are the packages here missing their debug counterparts? https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports I installed kdelibs5-dbg but the bug reporter says it still doesn't have enough to report a bug, and I can't find a kdepim-dbg nor akregator-dbg package. Ideas? | 18:23 |
| pedahzur | Another interesting tidbit: libkf5khtml5-dbg : Depends: libkf5khtml5 (= 5.18.0-0ubuntu1) but 5.23.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1 is to be installed Is Kubuntu backports broken at the moment? | 18:53 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <acheronuk> backport packages are probably using -dbgsym instead of -dgb packages now | 19:01 |
| pedahzur | IrcsomeBot1: apt-cache search kde|grep dbgsym doesn't return anything for me. | 19:12 |
| pedahzur | "apt-cache search kde|grep dbg" does list a bunch of packages, but none of those look like they are related to Akregator. | 19:13 |
| ahoneybun | quite a lot of PIM is asking to be removed... | 19:18 |
| ahoneybun | nvm | 19:19 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <acheronuk> yes -dbsym https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports/+sourcepub/6603537/+listing-archive-extra | 19:22 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <acheronuk> and same for kdepim inc akregator https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1/+build/9578735 | 19:26 |
| acheronuk | I bet the isos get spun just at the point I'm too tired to really test | 20:44 |
| valorie | I think the release team is really dragging by this point too | 20:54 |
| valorie | major stuff like FF and thunderbird failing tests.... | 20:55 |
| pedahzur | IrcsomeBot1, acheronuk: OK...I've got Kubuntu ppa backports enabled, but I'm still not seeing those dbgsym packages... | 20:58 |
| acheronuk | valorie: and lack of sleep http://paste.ubuntu.com/23310011/ | 20:58 |
| valorie | yeah, I've been reading back | 20:59 |
| valorie | you have sure been doing your share of work, acheronuk | 20:59 |
| acheronuk | I've been mostly watching others do that | 20:59 |
| acheronuk | last few days anyway | 21:00 |
| * acheronuk stands KCI on it's head in case it might automagically work upsidedown | 21:01 | |
| acheronuk | anything is worth a try at this point! | 21:01 |
| pedahzur | acheronuk: And when I look at the list of files here: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports I don't see any dbgsym packages. | 21:01 |
| pedahzur | So...where are they all going... ? :) | 21:02 |
| ScottK | lisandro: there's a new upstream now. Would you maybe be up for sponsoring if someone else packages and tests? | 21:02 |
| acheronuk | pedahzur: that view is just the source package names | 21:03 |
| acheronuk | pedahzur: click "View package details" and then filter by Xenial | 21:04 |
| acheronuk | pedahzur: then you get a list like this where you can use the expand icon to the left of each packafe to view details of what was built https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=xenial | 21:06 |
| pedahzur | acheronuk: Thanks for the details. Any idea why those dbgsym packages aren't showing up even though I have backports added (and have installed stuff from them). | 21:09 |
| pedahzur | Weird...in that filtered list you sent me acheronuk, there is no PIM, no KMail or anything. Am I looking at the right list? | 21:10 |
| acheronuk | pedahzur: kdepim and apps are not fully tested for backports in Xenial yet, so you will not see those it that ppa. Just frameworks and plasma | 21:18 |
| acheronuk | apps and PIM you will be getting from the main ubuntu archive | 21:19 |
| acheronuk | pedahzur: and on debug symbols, in case you have not already see, please see -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages | 21:19 |
| pedahzur | acheronuk: Thanks...for some reason I was under the impression that the debug symbol packages were part of the main archive... | 21:21 |
| pedahzur | I wonder if that info should be added to https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs/Debugging/How_to_create_useful_crash_reports#Kubuntu | 21:22 |
| valorie | that seems way out of date | 21:24 |
| valorie | especially since sitter's latest email about crash handling error reports | 21:24 |
| valorie | although I never saw a reply from us about it | 21:25 |
| pedahzur | Whoops. Err:26 http://ddebs.ubuntu.com xenial-security/main amd64 Packages "404 Not Found" | 21:25 |
| valorie | hmmm, I'm trying to update that KDE wiki page | 21:36 |
| valorie | easier said than done | 21:36 |
| valorie | ok, updated a tiny bit and added that crash report link | 21:43 |
| pedahzur | ARRRGHH!!! Installed akregator-dbgsym and it still says the debug information for /usr/bin/akregator is missing. Siiiiigh. | 21:44 |
| valorie | sounds like our packaging is a bit askew | 21:46 |
| valorie | pedahzur: can you do a `ubuntu-bug akregator-dbgsym` and report that? | 21:46 |
| valorie | in the clie | 21:47 |
| valorie | I mean commandline | 21:47 |
| pedahzur | valorie: OK, what do I put in the bug report? That I installed the dbgsym but KDE's crash report still says I don't have debug symbols installed? | 21:51 |
| valorie | right, the exact error message would be useful | 21:51 |
| valorie | as you reported above | 21:51 |
| pedahzur | valorie: OK. Well, it's not an error message, per se, more KDE's crash handler saying "I'm not going to do a bug report because you don't have debug symbols instaleld for X, Y, Z." | 21:53 |
| valorie | that's an error message IMO | 21:53 |
| acheronuk | will likely need debug packages for some Qt5 components and plugins as well. the crash dialogue should have a 'list of files' link to tell you which ones | 21:53 |
| valorie | if the devels need more information they can ask for it | 21:53 |
| valorie | or I guess acheronuk can tell you now! | 21:54 |
| pedahzur | valorie: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/1632489 | 21:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1632489 in kdepim (Ubuntu) "KDE crash handler thinks debug symbols are not installed" [Undecided,New] | 21:58 |
| pedahzur | acheronuk: I also installed kdelibs5-dbg I assumed that would pull in any packages needed for debugging. Maybe not? | 21:59 |
| ahoneybun | man I am reinstalling everything on this PC when I get a change | 22:01 |
| ahoneybun | *chance | 22:01 |
| valorie | thank you pedahzur | 22:06 |
| ahoneybun | why is my wifi so slow... | 22:07 |
| ahoneybun | only with this laptop do I have issues like this | 22:07 |
| valorie | I keep having random slowdowns too | 22:07 |
| valorie | so hard to diagnose! | 22:07 |
| ahoneybun | well I blame my ISP as they messed with my settings somehow | 22:08 |
| ahoneybun | I keep getting kicked off my wifi every few mins | 22:09 |
| valorie | ewww | 22:09 |
| clivejo | welcome to my world | 22:10 |
| acheronuk | evening clive | 22:10 |
| clivejo | eakk | 22:10 |
| valorie | mine could be comcast, could be something else -- IRC ticks along fine, but occasionally it has problems resolving DNS for webpages | 22:10 |
| valorie | so strange | 22:10 |
| valorie | clivejo: ? | 22:10 |
| clivejo | Im supposed to be in hiding | 22:10 |
| acheronuk | why? | 22:10 |
| clivejo | until Friday | 22:11 |
| * valorie throws the invisibility cloak over clivejo | 22:11 | |
| valorie | you better not miss Rik's membership meet! | 22:11 |
| acheronuk | I was tempted to hide until then, but I'm too nosy and curious | 22:11 |
| ahoneybun | I'm about to format this with Ubuntu or something | 22:17 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> this is just beginning to be a pain | 22:19 |
| valorie | ahoneybun: and you're blaming Kubuntu? | 22:21 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> no? | 22:21 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> I blame my ISP for messing with my settings | 22:22 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> I just need something that works tbh | 22:22 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> 60KBs is just no usuable and I can't take it | 22:25 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> even with WiFi | 22:25 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> that's a silly task to do | 22:25 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> 5.8 added that | 22:25 |
| acheronuk | yikes. dial-ip speed! | 22:25 |
| acheronuk | *dial-up | 22:26 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> yea I know | 22:26 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> and I've been kicked off my wifi about 4 times now | 22:26 |
| pedahzur | valorie: You are welcome. I hope that it helpful. | 22:27 |
| valorie | me too | 22:28 |
| valorie | debug symbols haven't been working right for awhile | 22:29 |
| valorie | not sure it's our fault, but if it is, we should fix | 22:29 |
| acheronuk | seems drkonqi is now mostly useless at telling you what dpg packages to install | 22:29 |
| acheronuk | not suer if that is the dbgsym migration, or something else | 22:30 |
| valorie | well, I believe that's why sitter wrote about debugging, but I don't have any knowledge in that domain | 22:33 |
| valorie | except that debug packages never get installed | 22:33 |
| * valorie restarts | 22:33 | |
| ahoneybun | yay 25KBs | 22:34 |
| valorie | today's updates are still good -- I've been riding yakkety on this laptop since the day it opened | 22:43 |
| valorie | so far, so good! | 22:43 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> Going to test the beta on my machine | 22:55 |
| valorie | yeah, the new ISOs are still not spun | 22:58 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> I have Beta 2 still | 23:11 |
| clivejo | tick tock | 23:12 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> Installed and all updated | 23:41 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> No issues | 23:41 |
| clivejo | hmmm | 23:44 |
| clivejo | a kernel and nvidia driver update a day before release | 23:45 |
| tsimonq2 | :/ | 23:46 |
| valorie | always! | 23:46 |
| clivejo | what could possibly go wrong! | 23:48 |
| clivejo | sometimes I do wonder why there is a development cycle or FF's etc | 23:49 |
| ahoneybun | mm the hec : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23310682/ | 23:50 |
| ahoneybun | apt -f install did work though | 23:50 |
| ahoneybun | that would have been my script | 23:50 |
| valorie | clivejo: to handle everything else, I can only assume | 23:52 |
| valorie | foundations team or whatever wants to be able to shove stuff in last min | 23:52 |
| valorie | always | 23:52 |
| clivejo | I cant put kdeconnect in, but they can put in a kernel :/ | 23:52 |
| clivejo | last cycle mysql was pushed in last minute! | 23:52 |
| * ahoneybun looks for clive | 23:53 | |
| ahoneybun | 's kdenlive ppa | 23:53 |
| clivejo | why you looking for me :/ | 23:54 |
| ahoneybun | your PPA | 23:55 |
| clivejo | I did nothing! | 23:55 |
| clivejo | wasnt me | 23:55 |
| ahoneybun | you did everything right though | 23:55 |
| tsimonq2 | !harumph | 23:55 |
| tsimonq2 | gosh darnit | 23:55 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about harumph | 23:55 |
| ahoneybun | <3 clivejo in a brotherly way | 23:55 |
| clivejo | it was either Haruld or Simon did it | 23:56 |
| tsimonq2 | yeah ever since sitter broke KCI, things have never been the same | 23:56 |
| tsimonq2 | (intentionally pinged him :P) | 23:56 |
| clivejo | sitter: BTW would clements have kept backups of the server? | 23:57 |
| * clivejo thinks sitter is probably tucked up in bed with his silk sheets dreaming about ruby | 23:59 | |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!