[00:57] cyphermox, hello. Just saw your update on bug #1631519. I've added a bit more detail in 2 more comments. Didn't know if there was more I could do to move this along. [00:57] bug 1631519 in xorg (Ubuntu) "No X on boot with external monitor connected" [Critical,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1631519 [01:01] rcj: that's good, I was asking trying to add more meat there, I'm probably not the best person to deal with X bugs [01:02] Same here sadly [01:02] I'm running G2ETA4WW there, so a firmware revision smack in the middle of the two you pointed out, so it's probably not firmware [01:02] are you booting in EFI? [01:02] yes [01:03] You? [01:03] then that isn't a variable either [01:03] yes [01:03] that was in case there was less mucking with video in that case or something [01:04] Do you know of someone to reach out to for more X expertise? [01:04] not really [01:05] but I did just get your bug [01:05] moving from miniDP to DP on the dock after being booted [01:05] for me with the cable connected X always starts [01:06] It fails reliably here. What does work is DVI from the doc to the 1920x1200 Dell monitor. [01:07] and now I can't reproduce it anymore [01:08] oh, you had reproduced it? [01:08] once [01:10] That's heartening [01:14] I subscribed Alberto, he may be able to help once he sees the bug. [01:14] cyphermox, Thank you. === maclin1 is now known as maclin [04:55] Hi [06:32] Good morning [06:37] good morning pitti ! [06:38] bonjour didrocks ! [06:40] good morning desktopers [06:40] hey didrocks&pitti [06:40] hey seb128 ! [06:40] happy release week, desktop team! [06:43] indeed! [06:45] * duflu falls off chair [06:46] For some reason it always creeps up [07:53] o/ [07:54] Hey willcooke., [07:54] evening TheMuso [07:56] hey willcooke, TheMuso, how are you? [07:56] seb128, ready for a holiday :) [07:56] just need to do a week long sprint first ;) [07:56] seb128: Not too bad thanks. Yourself? [07:56] do you have one coming? [07:56] I'm good, thanks! [07:56] seb128, I've just booked off the week after the sprint, but it's not been approved yet [07:57] oh ok [07:57] do you have any plan? [07:57] going to somewhere more sunny with the familly? ;-) [07:58] It's school holidays that week so we might do a few day tips here and there and then we have friends coming on Thursday to Sunday [07:58] s/tips/trips [07:58] Sounds nice. Gives you a good reason to get away from the computer. [07:59] TheMuso, :) [07:59] TheMuso, do you have the hardware to reproduce bug #1574324 now? [07:59] bug 1574324 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "pulseaudio crashes when connecting to bluetooth headphones (due to ubuntu changes?)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1574324 [07:59] willcooke, enjoy in any case ;-) [08:00] seb128: Yes, I just posted to that bug earlier. I am making slow but steady progress. [08:00] great [08:01] Bluetooth is my priority atm because its a bit of a mess, both for Xenial and yakkety. [08:01] Morning all [08:01] Hey flexiondotorg. [08:01] TheMuso, o/ [08:01] hey flexiondotorg [08:01] seb128, Morning [08:02] TheMuso, bluetooth with audio? [08:02] morning flexiondotorg [08:02] willcooke, Morning [08:04] seb128: Yes. [08:04] I see [08:05] moin [08:07] Laney, morning. [08:07] hey Laney [08:07] ahoy [08:07] how's it going? [08:08] cold! [08:08] but good otherwise [08:08] I miss the spain weather, at least in the evening/morning [08:09] you better take some long sleeves for next week [08:10] cold here too [08:11] don't worry seb128, we will run every single morning and you will be warm that way! :) [08:11] (hey guys!) [08:11] lol [08:11] /o\ [08:11] 6am sharp! [08:11] maybe this is the spring where we go climbing [08:11] as we start at 8:30am :) [08:11] * seb128 hacks didrocks's phone to change the wakeup setting [08:12] * didrocks has an IoT backup, fortunately [08:12] that's ok, it's on snappy right? not reliable enough to scare me :p [08:12] ah, IoT [08:12] * Laney hacks it [08:12] * Laney Fancy Bear [08:13] can't, because we have snap confinement! :) [08:14] ah man [08:14] so [08:15] who knows how dns is supposed to be set up these days? [08:15] my laptop is in the same state as yesterday when I couldn't get online [08:15] seems no names will resolve [08:15] p_itti? [08:15] * Laney has left it borked for investigation purposes [08:15] well I guess it's a valid case for ping [08:16] pitti, ^ it might be one you have clues about? [08:16] dnsmasq is running there (/etc/resolv.conf says 127.0.1.1) [08:17] on this working desktop it's 192.168.1.1 & 127.0.0.53 and dnsmasq just seems to be running for libvirt [08:17] Laney: we reverted DNS to the xenial state for NM, so shouldn't be any change; what does "dig A www.ubuntu.com @127.0.1.1" say? [08:17] pitti: it's timing out [08:17] Laney: hm, that "working" one isn't upgraded yet? [08:17] erm [08:18] since when? [08:18] I do have an n-m update pending [08:18] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/1.2.4-0ubuntu1 [08:18] (Sep 28) [08:19] before we used resolved everywhere, but that doesn't work with split-horizon DNS setups yet [08:19] and I noticed too late that upstream's NM now has a resolved plugin (next cycle), so I reverted to dnsmasq [08:19] oh, nope, that was just n-m-openvpn [08:19] but not sure why it would hang [08:19] oh, WAIT [08:19] I don't have n-m here :P [08:19] * Laney forgot about his stupid hacks [08:19] heh [08:19] so, just the laptop with dnsmasq which is timing out after resume [08:20] * seb128 stares at Laney [08:20] yesterday I restarted network-manager and it started working [08:20] what did you do?! [08:20] o/ seb128, pitti [08:20] I wanted a bridge so put the config into /e/n/i [08:20] hey thumper, how are you? [08:20] hey thumper! [08:20] sitting with a wine looking for a european to talk to [08:20] well, one particular european [08:20] dnsmasq is just the most opaque thing to me though [08:20] so, pretty good [08:20] Laney: this is unusual -- so the new crack everyone complains about works, but the old tried-and-true dnsmasq doesn't?? [08:21] thumper, online talk? ;-) [08:21] Laney: can you 'strace -e connect' it to see which DNS servers it's trying to talk to? [08:21] Laney: should be the one that NM picked up via DHCP [08:21] yeah, just like all my friends are virtual [08:21] my wife hastles me all the time [08:21] lol [08:21] thumper: you mean there are non-virtual friends? [08:22] ha [08:22] I have some dnsmasq processes which are talking about lxdbr0 too [08:22] ok, stracing (on dnsmasq, right?) [08:22] Laney: right, the one spawned by NM [08:22] Laney: systemctl status NetworkManager to get its pid [08:23] (or deduce it from their CLI arguments) [08:23] Laney: one oddity that I know is that restarting NM does *not* restart dnsmasq [08:23] # NM doesn't want systemd to kill its children for it [08:23] KillMode=process [08:23] ^ from NetworkManager.service [08:24] wtf [08:24] so if it's in a bad state, this needs to be killed separately [08:24] (no idea why it would do that) [08:24] no connect, but some sendto (... dns request... inet_addr=192.168.1.1) = -1 ENODEV (No such device) [08:24] Laney, I'm a bit stalled on #1623856 and #1623835. You mentioned Firefox tooltips need some love, shall I sort while I think on regarding the other two? [08:25] bug #1623856 bug #1623835. [08:25] For the bot, that is LP: #1623856 [08:25] bug 1623856 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Updated gtk element means you need to specify a size on the details drop down or it is only 1 line high" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1623856 [08:25] bug 1623835 in deja-dup (Ubuntu) "Updated gtk element means you need to specify a size on the details drop down or it is only 1 line high" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1623835 [08:25] Laney: hmm; I suppose killing that process and reconnecting to your AP (via nm-applet) fixes it? [08:25] Laney: 192.168.1.1 looks right, is it? [08:25] yes [08:25] (i. e. your router) [08:25] I can ping it too [08:25] I've tried setting min_content_height in the UI. No dice. [08:26] flexiondotorg: One minute [08:26] Sure. [08:27] pitti: Well, as I expected, killing it made things work again [08:27] hi, thunderbird 45.3 is crashing this morning in Yakkety. Is it known? [08:28] nvm it's with proposed enabled [08:28] Laney: so sendto() without connect() could mean that on startup it only connect()ed to 192.168.1.1 once, and then the network interface went away/came back [08:28] Laney: I would have assumed that it would do UDP and connect() for every request, not keep it open [08:28] Laney: but this is just speculating, I don't know dnsmasq's guts I'm afraid [08:29] i. e. ENODEV sounds like "my underlying network interface went away" [08:29] I do have two routes to 192.168.1.1 via the wlan and ethernet [08:29] oh [08:29] jibel, could be what was mentioned on #ubuntu-devel an hour ago [08:29] *and* this bug happened yesterday morning and this morning when I connected to both [08:29] Laney: now, that doesn't sound healthy [08:29] but *not* yesterday evening when I was only on the wlan [08:29] * Laney shrugs [08:29] it's always worked until now :) [08:29] Laney: two different metrics, I suppose/hope [08:30] seb128, very likely, thanks. [08:30] jibel, yw! [08:30] Laney: I'd assume that eth is faster to connect and has a higher metric, so not sure why a running process woudl suddenly want to use the wifi one [08:30] Laney: or could it be that the ethernet (re)connected later on for some reason? [08:30] default DD-WRT 0.0.0.0 UG 100 0 0 enx0023563c3054 [08:30] default DD-WRT 0.0.0.0 UG 600 0 0 wlan0 [08:30] Laney: if dnsmasq started while 192.168.1.1 was routed via wlan, then eth came up and trumped its route with a higher metric, that might explain it [08:31] that looks right [08:31] bring back resolvd! [08:31] resolved [08:31] (I think higher metric == lower prio) [08:32] Laney: drop dns=dnsmasq from /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf :) === shiznix_ is now known as shiznix [08:53] flexiondotorg: I was looking at a different thing to you I think [08:53] Ah, OK. [08:53] details of the update itself, from the list of updates versus the progress thingy [08:53] Yeah, so I've looked at both. [08:54] Gtk's giving some warnings about the latter [08:54] The progress while downloading. [08:54] That's probably the hint [08:54] And the vte details. [08:54] Something's not asking for size right [08:54] OK, I've just create a new VM and installed the GTK dev tools. [08:54] I'll have another look. [08:55] Regarding FF tooltips, shall I work on a merge proposal? [08:55] Sure, feel free, can whack those in the same SRU [08:56] OK/ I'll do that first then return the update manager (and related issues). [08:57] I fear that it's something about the size the widgets are requesting, for the progress / vte case [08:57] moin [09:00] g'day Sweet5hark [09:00] what's the news? [09:02] * Sweet5hark is just checking the late fix for LibreOffice that build overnight in a ppa ... [09:17] Probably a good idea to prepare that as an SRU [09:30] will anyone from the desktop team be at http://www.opensourcesummit.paris/?lg=en? seb128? didrocks? [09:36] Sweet5hark: was supposed to, my talk was accepted, but some internal issues prevented this to happen [09:37] didrocks: hmm, meh. from what I see that event is ... relevant. [10:02] seb128: http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/yakkety/5.2.2/libreoffice_5.2.2-0ubuntu2_source.changes <- here is the prepared upload for the "unreadable tabs" issue. This was testbuild in the libreoffice-staging ppa and smoketested. [10:13] Laney, willcooke, vigo: guys I seem to be having issue with indicator-network crashing on i386 looks like network-manager-openvpn might be taking it out [10:14] I'll try a fresh install but if that fails I'll try and get a report filed for it [10:14] davmor2, ack === hikiko is now known as hikiko|ln [10:15] thanks davmor2 [10:24] willcooke: meh happens in live session too but at least there I can access the wifi network, bug #1632275 [10:24] Error: Launchpad bug 1632275 could not be found [10:25] davmor2, is it a private bug? [10:25] willcooke: let me public it, it is an apport bug so hidden initially [10:25] willcooke: opened up [10:28] seb128, are you running 16.10 on your 32 bit machine? Do you see that? ^ [10:30] willcooke: this is bailing on live desktop the only reason I think I missed it is I've been using the xps for 64 bit testing and the kvm for i386 so no wifi and no secrets [10:30] ah, kk [10:31] * willcooke wonders who our indicator-network expert is, c_harles perhaps? [10:31] willcooke: no ofcourse I'm testing on hardware for final :( he is for phone not sure if he has touched the desktop applet [10:32] willcooke: actually attente is the guy working on nm indicator currently iirc [10:33] nope [10:33] maybe you're thinking of wellark [10:34] willcooke: yes sorry [10:34] willcooke: but again that is indicator in unity7 it is still the applet [10:35] let try that in a sentence willcooke: but again that is indicator, in unity7 it is still the applet so no idea who looks after that [10:37] seb128, when you're about - can you help steer this to the right place? (bug# 1632275) [10:37] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-network/+bug/1632275 [10:37] Ubuntu bug 1632275 in indicator-network (Ubuntu) "indicator-network-secret-agent crashed with SIGSEGV in do_lookup_x()" [Undecided,Confirmed] [10:38] davmor2: yeah, we've still the applet in u7 [10:38] well, nm-applet using indicator-application [10:39] yeah, and it looks like its the indicator thats crashing [10:39] jibel: ^ fyi [10:45] willcooke: looking at the tracker there is someone else who hit it in the i386 image so that is it confirmed but I opened a fresh bug incase it was different we can link them all together after. [10:45] davmor2, ack [10:46] willcooke: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/368/builds/132995/testcases/1303/results/ middle one of the green bugs [10:47] It happens on an i386 live image [10:47] Try asking pete-woods [10:47] I think he wrote some/most of this stuff [10:47] thanks Laney [10:48] willcooke: oh so it looks like it is a new bug because it didn't affect amd64 so I don't know if there was a new image last night let me have a look [10:48] I'll fire up and amd64 and double check that [10:48] You're probably just seeing it now because indicator-network got seeded [10:48] There's not been a new image [10:49] Laney: but there is a guy confirm it on amd64 and yesterday that worked fine in testing [10:49] Doesn't change the fact that there hasn't been a new image [10:50] There's a way to reproduce it (i386 live session), I wouldn't bother trying to do any more research unless pete-woods wants help [10:50] Laney: indeed might just be that netboot was affected by it [10:51] wasn't even [10:51] could be that it exists only in some circumstances [10:51] willcooke: are you doing the ping thing? [10:52] Laney, you mean speaking to Pete? Yeah [10:52] ye [10:52] ta [10:52] Laney: indeed [10:52] well, trying to, no reply yet but he's probably busy. If I can't raise him I will try awe once he's on line === hikiko|ln is now known as hikiko [11:05] hmmm still can't reproduce on my system with broadcom or with ralink [11:16] 'sup. [11:36] * flexiondotorg seeks out food [11:38] davmor2, after UEFI installation in my amd64 laptop I have internet connection but the icon in upper bar is the ethernet one instead of Wi-Fi [11:38] have you seen it before? [11:39] vigo: that is part of the issue that I reported it is that the icon resets to default as the indicator restarts [11:39] the one you found for i386? [11:40] vigo: yes it affects everything just isn't as noticable on amd64 [11:42] davmor2, I see :) thanks [11:55] seb128: evolution is having Google rate limiting problems too https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=771547 [11:55] Gnome bug 771547 in Mailer "Internal Google OAuth2 authentication fails with expired token" [Normal,Reopened] [11:55] I assume it's not really related to the browser geolocation api issue but I thought I'd mention it anyway [12:09] good morning! [12:10] davmor2, In my old pc (amd+nvidia+ralink) the Wi-Fi connection got lost after accepting 3rd party drivers+ Download updates screen [12:11] Wi-Fi icon got blank and no way to connect it again, already reported? [12:11] or is part of that bug affecting i386? [12:13] vigo: yeah it might be down to a bunch of things so anything you thing is relevant add to the bug and it might add more info the devs to find a cause/fix [12:13] davmor2, sure :) [12:14] hi desrt! [12:14] have you given sufficient thanks? [12:17] i have [12:17] was a very good weekend, and a good send-off [12:18] * desrt is on her way to the sprint tomorrow [12:18] early haaging? [12:18] yup [12:19] i always enjoy a good haaging. figured i'd start now. [12:19] nice [12:19] go see escher [12:19] (i'm not actually going to the hague) [12:19] (....yet) [12:21] ._. [12:25] * Laney heads to the post office & food office [12:29] * flexiondotorg returns [12:38] willcooke, what Laney said for the indicator issue (sorry was at lunch+some errands) [12:38] hey desrt, how are you? [12:38] very good, thanks [12:38] how was your weekend? [12:41] saturday was good, still in Spain enjoying the nice weather, sunday was travelling back and unpacking/getting things in shape before resuming a work mode week [12:42] jbicha, thanks, doesn't look really similar indeed (not the same api nor key) but thanks for pointing it out [12:52] seb128, Laney - no reply from Pete, chasing with a_lecu now [12:53] davmor2, fyi ^ [12:59] Laney, while looking at Tooltips for FF, they seems to be absent from many apps. [13:00] Working on it. [13:29] flexiondotorg: a lot of GNOME stuff doesn't have tooltips; do the tooltips show up with Adwaita? [13:29] jbicha, Yeah, I checked the code. [13:29] Tooltips that were once there are no longer :-) [13:30] :( [13:30] Tooltips don't render correctly in Ubuntu, but that is another issue altogether. [13:30] jbicha, I mean, tooltips are removed from the code. [13:30] nautilus 3.22 adds tooltips back! [13:31] for the toolbar at least [13:32] Yep, And I'm looking at 3.20 here. As you say, no tool tips in the toolbar. [13:47] flexiondotorg: What does "Tooltips don't render correctly in Ubuntu" mean? [13:48] Laney, They intended to be rendered with rounded boarders. [13:48] But are drawn on a rectangular black background, so appear rectangular. [13:49] Present in 16.04 and 16.10. [13:49] Open Nautilus and hover over Desktop in the side panel in Xenial or Yakkety. [13:50] Didn't know that there was anything wrong with that [13:55] flexiondotorg, it was fixed in a SRU in xenial [13:56] * flexiondotorg checks for updates... [13:57] sorry it was a SRU in wily [13:57] should be fine in xenial [13:57] you use unity? [13:58] was fixed in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/3.16.7-0ubuntu4 [13:58] seb128, Yep, using Unity on all computers. [13:58] k, weird [13:58] They are rounded [13:59] seb128, It regressed :-( [13:59] for me too [13:59] Really? [13:59] flexiondotorg, can you do a screnshot on xenial? [13:59] what theme do you use? [13:59] Ambiance [13:59] weird [13:59] but yeah, nautilus sidebar tooltips for example are rounded on current xenial for me [14:01] flexiondotorg: it looks rounded but with a black rectangle background like you said on xenial [14:02] I had to squint closely at my screen [14:02] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/221853364/tooltip.png was the original bug [14:02] that's fixed for me at least [14:03] I'm using VirtualBox and that's what it looks like for me now on xenial [14:03] seb128, http://imgur.com/a/7sagJ [14:03] I'm on hardware. Intel Iris 540. [14:03] ok, I've been checking 16.10 since you said it happens there [14:05] flexiondotorg, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/xenial.png is my xenial [14:05] http://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/tooltip.png yakkety [14:07] OK, going to test this on my XPS 15 with nvidia drivers. [14:08] in a 16.04 VM I do see this though [14:08] :-o! [14:09] lowgfx mode thing? [14:09] thats what I was thinking [14:09] but I run lowgfx mode here all the time, and it's ok for me [14:09] or maybe compositing/rendering [14:09] like software rendering issue [14:09] in vm [14:10] but flexiondotorg said he's having the bug "on hardware" which I guess mean non-vm [14:10] My main computer is a Skull Canyon NUC. No VM here. [14:12] Just checked low graphics mode. It is not enabled. [14:12] I'm really pleased I didn't start try to fix this. [14:13] how do you check for low graphics mode? [14:13] COMPIZ_CONFIG_PROFILE [14:14] OK, Dell XPS 15 in Intel mode also exhibits the issue. [14:14] Both are Skylake graphics. [14:22] nvidia drivers on the same XPS 15 do not exhibit the issue. [14:22] * flexiondotorg looks at 3 computers his eyes no longer trust :-( [14:23] * Laney is happy that the theme is exonerated [14:23] intel driver issue then? [14:24] Specifically Skylake. [14:24] fun [14:24] do you use the intel driver or modesettings? [14:25] Intel driver. [14:25] Completely default. [14:26] The Firefox tooltips I've submitted a merge proposal for work just fine however. [14:27] They're probably drawn differently [14:30] Yep, they are. [14:30] But a good job too, otherwise I'd still be sat here trying to fix them., [14:43] flexiondotorg, well, there is still a bug worth fixing there, but probably not a trivial one... [14:45] Indeed. I've made a note to circle back to it after release. [14:49] seb128: did you see this? -> (12:02:18) Sweet5hark: http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/yakkety/5.2.2/libreoffice_5.2.2-0ubuntu2_source.changes <- here is the prepared upload for the "unreadable tabs" issue. This was testbuild in the libreoffice-staging ppa and smoketested. [15:06] Sweet5hark, yeah I saw but got sidetracked on other bugs, looking at it now, thanks for the reminder [15:09] seb128: no worries, just wanted to be sure it wouldnt have disappeared in something like a disconnect on my side. [15:10] right, no I saw it ;-) [15:24] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZy_sBW7jz0&feature=youtu.be [15:24] :D [15:25] Sweet5hark, libreoffice in the review queue [15:25] seb128: awesome, thanks! [15:26] yw, thanks for the fix update! [15:31] gah [15:31] #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-10-11 [15:31] Meeting started Tue Oct 11 15:31:24 2016 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:31] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-10-11 | Current topic: [15:31] lol [15:31] o/ [15:32] \o [15:32] roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt, dgadomski, fjkong, flexiondotorg, happyaron, hikiko (out), laney, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) [15:32] o/ [15:32] * Sweet5hark reporting in. [15:33] Right, let's get started [15:33] #topic andyrock === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-10-11 | Current topic: andyrock [15:34] still working on unity8 tooltips [15:34] i'm working on a failure on one unit test [15:34] that happens just on CI and not locally [15:34] I had to rebase the branches several time due to the unified-stages branch [15:35] that's it basically [15:35] *times [15:35] thanks andyrock [15:35] #topic attente === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-10-11 | Current topic: attente [15:35] hi, holiday yesterday, still working on gtk-mir clipboard support, making some progress there [15:35] (eof) [15:35] thanks attente [15:35] #topic desrt === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-10-11 | Current topic: desrt [15:37] let's come back, she was around earlier. Oh, travelling perhaps. [15:37] #topic dgadomski === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-10-11 | Current topic: dgadomski [15:37]